#Sino-Vietnamese War

[captain-price-unofficially]

Chinese PLA invade Vietnam, 1979

[tyrianwanderings]

Chinese POWs during the late 1970s Sino-Vietnamese War

[invasizon]

The development history of CAT OF WAR：BACK TO VIETNAM

I had this idea at first is I was new to the scratchcn （A Chinese-based localization community） there was a third person shooter project named “CAT OF WAR VIETNAM” This project incorporates the scratch cat into the war nicely

At this point I'm develop some third-person shooters incodema（It developed a development kit called “kitten” based on scratch） At that time I saw that cat of war had great potential in the kitten engine，Because kitten has “screen capabilities”, it can be easier to develop large-scale projects with plots

So I tried to Develop a cat of war with the background of the Sino-Vietnamese War in 1979

some early concept art

But in the end I gave up because I imagined developing a cat of war based on a fictional war during the Cold War So you see the CAT OF WAR WWIII in the end。

But after I ended the development of WWIII, I started working on this almost abandoned project again I repainted the previous concept art to make it more in line with my art style

final art

Finally,the first chapter of the project has been developed here is the scratchers also provide support during development

some screenshots of demo

The first half of Chapter 1 is available as a demo here But I need some developers who have some knowledge of English to translate this project, if you want to join, please join our development channel at here The complete project will be launch around 2024, thanks for the support!

[agentgrange]

Arc Dream: Look it is okay to profile Tcho Tcho because they aren't real people, they are alien channelings so its no big deal

Pelgrane Press: The Tcho Tcho people are fierce anti communist and great allies to bring the American dream to the Vietnamese people. We need to arm them immediately!

ArcDream: Doesn't know that the United States armed Pol Pot's Khmer Rogue to instigate a war with Vietnam and further the Sino-Soviet split.

Pelgrane Press: The US would arm the Blind Idiot God himself if that meant somehow getting China onboard with fucking the soviets in the ass.

[impishdullahan]

What is your FAVORITE ever dnd campaign (I would love to hear about the setting and worldbuilding the most!! :3)

Oh boi! You best buckle up!

I've run 5 campaigns to date, the last of which is still ongoing, but I think the 4th is my favourite, and that's mostly because the setting is actually fleshed out and not based on any source material. I arrived at the setting by polling my players for what kind of game they'd like, and the result is something we'd've never come up with on our own! The first poll was for genre, and we landed on historical fiction / folklore. Rather than just do the Euro history and folklore I and most of players are familiar with, though, I then polled them for what other region in the world they'd like to play in because I thought it'd be fun to learn about other histories and cultures. Western North America and East Asia were tied first, so I developed a setting based on the cultures around the North Pacific.

I settled on an ice age setting and adapted a map of the Bering land bridge into a fantasy map that stretched from Hokkaido to the Yukon and populated it all with different D&D races, ascribing them different real life cultures. The world as a whole I called Nuna, which means 'land' in the Inuit languages. I'll describe each region, it's real world geographical analogue, and the races that inhabit it, and why I ascribed them which cultures.

Going clockwise around the Pacific Rim, the first region is Noshima. Noshima is equivalent to modern day Hokkaido, Sakhalin, and the Kurils. The largest culture present is the Yamono, which are represented by beastfolk, a race I adapted from FAGE, the system I was running the campaign prior. The beastfolk were flavoured as the mortal counterparts to Japanese kami, which as I understand, are regional nature spirits. Noshima also had populations of the Toki, Men, and Elun: avens, humans, and aarakocra respectively. I'll describe the former two shortly, but the aarakocra are specifically flavoured as Steller's sea eagles. I can't remember what culture they leaned towards: they were pretty inconsequential in the campaign narrative and I just liked having Steller's sea eagles.

The next region is Yushen, roughly equivalent to modern day Manchuria and the Amur river basin, and is mostly represented by cultures inspired by the Sino-sphere. I'll discuss the Amur, Long, Heixuan, and Toki first. These were the original inhabitants of Yushen, and they're inspired by the 4 symbols or holy creatures of China: the Amur are felid shifters aligned with the White Tiger, the Long are dragonborn aligned with the Azure Dragon, the Heixuan are tortles aligned with the Black Tortoise, and the Toki are scarlet ibis avens aligned with the Vermillion Bird. (The Heixuan also leaned Vietnamese because I had a player want to lean into some Vietnamese folklore playing a tortle.) These 4 races/cultures were pushed to the peripheries of Yushen by the invading Men, or humans, who were in turn pushed to the peripheries by the invading Chi Sou, or orcs. These were inspired by some Chinese folklore regarding invading barbarians from the South-West, and I engaged in a little bit of stereotype. Yushen is also home to the Deva, or aasimars, in what would be the Sikhote-Alin mountains; the Deva were ascribed a broadly Indic culture, and they arrived together with the Chi Sou from far to the South-West.

Next is Jangso, which is broadly Korea: I did basically plop the Korean peninsula into the Sea of Okhotsk for the map. The major culture in Jangso is the Doke, or goblins. This is purely because at the time a friend had me watching the K-drama Goblin. Next there's the mixed Gokebi culture of verdans, a product of when a population of humans fleeing the invading Chi Sou settled in Jangso. There's also the Kebi in Jangso, the gnomes, who historically warred with the Doke.

To the North-West is the arid region of Khamda, broadly inspired by Mongolia. Khamda is populated by the Khernet, Sayatchi, Morinet, and Yamanet: yak-headed minotaurs, golden eagle avens, centaurs, and satyrs respectively. Khamda never played a role in the campaign narrative so it's not terribly well fleshed out, but the idea is that each is a population descended from a tribe of Men so spiritually connected with their animals in their nomadic lifestyles that they affected their physiology: falconers became avens, and herders became the rest.

The next region back on the Pacific Rim is Mokotan. Although Mokotan is geographically based on Kamchatka and Eastern Siberia, culturally I based it on Hokkaido since I based Noshima on the rest of Japan. The two cultures here besides the aforementioned Elun are the Jomon dwarves, based on the Jomon culture, and the Ainu-flavoured Pokkur halflings, based on the korpokkur.

Where the Bering land bridge is is the region of Emeq, populated by tritons. I ascribed them a Russian culture, but they were probably among the least fleshed out.

What corresponds to Alaska is the region of Nanaurat. In some ways it's the rest of the map west of Emeq in miniature: there's the Nanuk ursine shifters, Umiaq dwarves, Haarak halflings, and Kuutchik bald eagle aarakocra who are all related to their Western cousins. Nanaurat is broadly based on Inuit cultures, and I specifically wanted to lean into the connections between the East Siberian Yupik with the rest of the Inuit, as well as some of the more dubious connections between the Siberian Yeniseians and the North American Denes. Also in Naunaurat are the Yuktuk kor, guardians of the glacial pass to the rest of North America. Finally, theres the Kinichuk goliaths as well, and their western cousins were native to the pass betweem Jangso and Khamda, but they died before the glaciers came when the Doke and Kebi were still warring.

To the east of the map, beyond the glaciers and in what would be Canada, there's also firbolgs and elves, of which there are a few vagrants in Nuna.

I also have a bunch of lore to go with this all, at least the parts relevant to the campaign narrative, but this should do for an overview. A common throughline, though, is that each culture has its own explanation for what caused the ice age: Emeq was once a sea and it was only in the last 300-400 years that it rose of the sea when the glaciers developed around the rest of the land.

Feel free to ask for particulars about anything! The campaign was primarily set in Noshima, Yushen, and Mokotan, but I had 3 PCs from Nanaurat.

[brookstonalmanac]

Events 3.16 (after 1970)

1977 – Assassination of Kamal Jumblatt, the main leader of the anti-government forces in the Lebanese Civil War. 1978 – Former Italian Prime Minister Aldo Moro is kidnapped; he is later murdered by his captors. 1978 – A Balkan Bulgarian Airlines Tupolev Tu-134 crashes near Gabare, Bulgaria, killing 73. 1978 – Supertanker Amoco Cadiz splits in two after running aground on the Portsall Rocks, three miles off the coast of Brittany, resulting in the largest oil spill in history at that time. 1979 – Sino-Vietnamese War: The People's Liberation Army crosses the border back into China, ending the war. 1984 – William Buckley, the CIA station chief in Lebanon, is kidnapped by Hezbollah; he later dies in captivity. 1985 – Associated Press newsman Terry Anderson is taken hostage in Beirut; he is not released until December 1991. 1988 – Iran–Contra affair: Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North and Vice Admiral John Poindexter are indicted on charges of conspiracy to defraud the United States. 1988 – Halabja chemical attack: The Kurdish town of Halabja in Iraq is attacked with a mix of poison gas and nerve agents on the orders of Saddam Hussein, killing 5,000 people and injuring about 10,000 people. 1988 – The Troubles: Ulster loyalist militant Michael Stone attacks a Provisional IRA funeral in Belfast with pistols and grenades. Three persons, one of them a member of PIRA are killed, and more than 60 others are wounded. 1995 – Mississippi formally ratifies the Thirteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution, becoming the last state to approve the abolition of slavery. The Thirteenth Amendment was officially ratified in 1865. 2001 – A series of bomb blasts in the city of Shijiazhuang, China kill 108 people and injure 38 others, the biggest mass murder in China in decades. 2003 – American activist Rachel Corrie is killed in Rafah by being run over by an Israel Defense Forces bulldozer while trying to obstruct the demolition of a home. 2005 – Israel officially hands over Jericho to Palestinian control. 2010 – The Kasubi Tombs, Uganda's only cultural World Heritage Site, are destroyed in a fire. 2012 – Former Indian cricketer Sachin Tendulkar becomes the first batter in history to score 100 centuries in international cricket. 2014 – Crimea votes in a controversial referendum to secede from Ukraine to join Russia. 2016 – A bomb detonates in a bus carrying government employees in Peshawar, Pakistan, killing 15 and injuring at least 30. 2016 – Two suicide bombers detonate their explosives at a mosque during morning prayer on the outskirts of Maiduguri, Nigeria, killing 24 and injuring 18. 2020 – The Dow Jones Industrial Average falls by 2,997.10, the single largest point drop in history and the second-largest percentage drop ever at 12.93%, an even greater crash than Black Monday (1929). This follows the U.S. Federal Reserve announcing that it will cut its target interest rate to 0–0.25%. 2021 – Atlanta spa shootings: Eight people are killed and one is injured in a trio of shootings at spas in and near Atlanta, Georgia, U.S. A suspect is arrested the same day. 2022 – A 7.4-magnitude earthquake occurs off the coast of Fukushima, Japan, killing 4 people and injuring 225.

[tanksandbeyond]

A Type 70 MLRS (Multiple Launch Rocket System), late 1980s.

The Chinese Type 70 MLRS is a rocket artillery version of the Type 63 APC, carrying 19 tubes of 130mm rockets. Development of this variant lasted about 10 months, finishing in November of 1970, with trials beginning the following year with 18 test vehicles being delivered to the 1st Tank Division of the People's Liberation Army. After receiving improvements, it would finally be named the Type 70 130 mm self-propelled rocket launcher in 1977. Mass production began in 1979 ended soon after, resulting in only 244 being produced. It most notably saw combat in Vietnam during the Sino-Vietnamese War in 1979.

Fun fact: According to Veteran recollections of this vehicle, it was used sparingly, as it cost 500 Yuan for one rocket. If the entire battalion fired all of their rockets, that is, 18 Type 70s firing 19 rockets each, it would cost well over $100,000 USD today!

[lulusjourney]

Throughout this week, I've deeply missed my grandparents, particularly my grandfather. It's a strange feeling, but I find myself yearning for the days we spent working in the fields on our farm and savoring our sweet honey tea by the lake after dinner. Sometimes we would chat, while other times, we'd sit in silence, gazing at the stars in the sky. Occasionally, he'd sing a song, a famous Chinese tune called "Leaves from the Vine." I never understood why he sang it until one day, as tears welled up in his eyes and he looked heavenward, I couldn't help but ask him about its meaning.

With a warm smile, my grandfather began to share the story behind the song. He told me about his two sons, Su-wang and Leo Wano Zhou. Su-wang was a kind soul who became a soldier in the PLA, loved children regardless of their background, and had deep faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. He believed that helping those in need was a life well-lived. On the other hand, Leo Wano was a spoiled and ungrateful son who thought himself superior to others, a perfect blend of Yin and Yang.

My grandfather explained that when he looked at me, he saw shades of Su-wang—always cheerful, always smiling, regardless of life's challenges. Intrigued, I asked what had happened to Su-wang. With a heavy heart, my grandfather revealed that Su-wang had lost his life in the 1979 Sino-Vietnamese War at the young age of 20. The song, "Leaves from the Vine," was a way for him to honor the son he never had the chance to bury.

As we sat by the lake in a poignant silence, I contemplated the lyrics of the song. The falling leaves, so delicate and slow, symbolized the fragile nature of life, drifting to the ground. My grandfather longed for his son, taken away to fight a war that wasn't his own.

Moved by love and sorrow, I asked my grandfather why he had never spoken of Su-wang before. He replied, "Because it still hurts, my child." I rushed into the house to gather incense sticks, a bowl of nuts, and the Bible. Together, we lit the incense sticks and placed them in the ground, setting the bowl beside them. It was our way of letting Su-wang rest in peace, to honor his memory and the sacrifice he made for his country

We read Matthew 11:28-30, and even though we didn't have Su-wang's ashes, I could see the joy in my grandfather's eyes. It brought immense comfort to him to finally let his son's soul rest. But he wondered aloud, "When I am no more, who will bring honor to my brave soldier boy?" Looking at him, I made a promise, "I will, grandfather. I will bring honor to the Zhou Clan. One day, I will amaze everyone who thinks less of us, and I will bring honor to Su-wang."

He smiled at me and said, "My child, you are already the greatest gift God has blessed us with. Su-wang is proud of his niece and the remarkable young lady you have become." He continued, "I believe the Lord takes the greatest souls up to the heavens." Since that precious night, Su-wang has been a part of my daily prayers, a constant reminder of the duty I bear to honor his memory and the love I hold for my family

[whiskeysorrows]

isn't it strange how i am two generations removed from the vietnam war but its shadow still looms over my life bc my grandparents lived through the war which affected my mother who lived through the immediate aftermath of the war which affects me bc i know the childhood i experienced was a result of that and i remember hearing them talk about its horrors when they thought i was asleep. and then my father was a refugee because of the sino-vietnamese war which was caused by the vietnam war which led me to exist here. i am trying so hard to achieve peace but without war i would never have been born at all. how long can a war last in our bloodline how many generations does it take for its cycle to finally end. is it ever possible to escape?

[captain-price-unofficially]

Chinese AA guns firing at Vietnamese positions, Laoshan, 1984

[land-of-the-unfree]

Tanks of North Korea

The history and development of the tank in North Korea spans the period from their adoption after World War II with the foundation of the Korean People's Army, into the Cold War and the present. Over this period North Korea has moved from being an operator of Soviet-designed and produced tanks to being the manufacturer of its own tanks. Many tanks were ordered from China through the years.

China’s first tank factory, Inner Mongolian Machinery Factory No. 617, was set up in 1956 with Soviet assistance. It produced its first T-54A in 1958 with Soviet parts. The Chinese-built T-54A design was officially adopted into PLA service in 1959, hence the name Type 59.

The basic Type 59 served for almost two decades with very little modification. It was provided to Vietnam during the Vietnam War, and it later fought Vietnam during the Sino-Vietnamese was in 1979. That experience lead China to take a hard look at its tank fleet and procure upgrades. China attempted to create some more modern tanks based off the Type 59 such as the Type 69 (following the Chinese capture and reverse engineering of a Soviet T-62 captured during the 1969 Sino-Soviet border skirmish), but these tanks did not see wide service until later.

[michaelcosio]

How the Sino-Vietnamese war helped China kick-start China-US relations and economic reforms

China attacked Vietnam in 1979 for an economic motive. In retrospect, the Sino-Vietnam war paved the way for China’s economic reforms and helped the country rise in dominance. The mastermind of the PLA’s operation was former CCP leader Deng Xiaoping. He took advantage of the US-China-Russia relations at the time and designed a military operation to gain American trust and was successful in deceiving the West with his agenda of economic reforms.

from Lei's Real Talk

[planta-alta]

During her stay at Planta Alta, Kvet Nguyen continued her research project on the deconstruction of power structures during the 60s in former Czechoslovakia. In the 1960s Vietnam sent thousands of people to Europe to gain new skills that would build the war-torn country of the East. Former teacher Mosná from one of the Language Training Centres in Czechoslovakia kept a personal photo archive of her students. The people in the pictures were among the first Vietnamese migrants in Czechoslovakia. Through different archives, Kvet looks for answers that would reveal not only the presence of false internationalism (a power structure adopted in socialist countries similar to colonial practice) but also to explore how has this particular history changed the way we look at the other.

Kvet Nguyen (Hoa Nguyen Thi) graduated in 2021 from the Department of Photography and New Media at the Academy of Fine Arts in Bratislava, where she is currently pursuing her PhD studies. She is a laureate of the Tatra Banka Foundation 2021 Award in the Young Artist category. Her bachelor thesis Memoryless, borderdless, nameless space (2018) was awarded second place at the World Biennial of Student Photography in 2019, when it was also exhibited independently for the first time at the 15th edition of the festival [fjúžn]. She actively exhibits in Europe (Slovakia, Czech Republic, Poland, Hungary, France, Serbia, the Netherlands) as well as on other continents (Canada, Vietnam).

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Durante su estancia en Planta Alta, Kvet Nguyen continuó su proyecto de investigación sobre la deconstrucción de estructuras de poder durante los años 60 en la antigua Checoslovaquia. En la década de 1960, Vietnam envió a miles de personas a Europa para adquirir nuevas habilidades que construirían el país del Este devastado por la guerra. Mosná, una antigua profesora de uno de los Centros de Enseñanza de Idiomas de Checoslovaquia guardaba un archivo fotográfico personal de sus estudiantes. Las personas en las fotos son algunos de los primeros inmigrantes vietnamitas en Checoslovaquia. A través de diferentes archivos, Kvet busca respuestas que no solo revelen la presencia del falso internacionalismo (una estructura de poder adoptada en los países socialistas similar a la práctica colonial) sino también para explorar cómo ha cambiado esta historia particular la forma en que miramos al otro.

Kvet Nguyen (Hoa Nguyen Thi) se graduó en 2021 del Departamento de Fotografía y Nuevos Medios de la Academia de Bellas Artes de Bratislava, donde actualmente está cursando sus estudios de doctorado. Fue galardonada con el Premio Tatra Banka Foundation 2021 en la categoría de Artista Joven. Su tesis Memoryless, borderdless, nameless space (2018) obtuvo el segundo galardón en la Bienal Mundial de Fotografía de Estudiantes en 2019, que también se exhibió de forma independiente por primera vez en la 15ª edición del festival [fjúžn]. Expone con frecuencia en Europa (Eslovaquia, República Checa, Polonia, Hungría, Francia, Serbia, Países Bajos) y en otros continentes (Canadá, Vietnam).

[joshuawister]

1980′s Camouflage of Socialist Countries

Eastern European style of camouflage had some variants for purposes. The camouflage was designed with 2-tone or 3-tone colors. Introduced in 1938, some snipers wore the earliest pattern of camouflage outfits.

In 1980′s, TTsKO or three-color camouflage uniform (pattern) and the later designed KLMK unifrom became the most ubiquitous designs in the USSR. The neighboring Poland also used some camouflage especially for the air borne and parachute special operation troops, with the three- or four-color spot pattern also nicknamed Żaba or "frog". (the country at that time was called PRL)

At the same time, China used the Type 81 as known as “big five leaves” (大五叶 ) pattern resembles American “Duck Hunter” design. Introduced in the mid- to -late 1970s, the uniforms would have seen service into the 1980s, including the Sino-Vietnamese War.

References: https://www.camopedia.org/index.php/Main_Page

[agentgrange]

Shortlist of planned campaign settings I'd love to include in Delta Green Able Archer in no particular order:

Vietnam-Thailand-Cambodia Border (played as GRU-SV8 agents and their Vietnamese allies against the Khmer Rogue and Kuen-Yuin, 1980)

Ipswich / East Sussex (based on the Rendlesham Forest incident, possibly set in 1981 after the real world events of Christmas 1980.)

Mammoth Caves, Kentucky (general southern gothic and hollow earth shenanigans, player favorite.)

Fulda Gap, Germany (takes place during Able Archer 1983 crisis)

Hawizeh Marshes, Iran-Iraq Border (Height of the Iran-Iraq War, expect stargate hopping.)

Anchorage, Alaska (based loosely on the Robert Hansen case, where Agents will hunt the most dangerous game.)

Panjshir Valley, Afghanistan (an inversion of the Kali Ghati scenario where Delta Green agents will conduct an insurgency against GRU SV8.)

Lisbon, Portugal (unlock the secrets of the Knights Templar and their ancient, doomed war against the unnatural.)

Tokyo, Japan (Delta Green agents are forced to team up with Genyosha to investigate the rise of extreme film.)

Panama-Nicaragua Border (following the footsteps of Sub Rosa and the legacy of Delta Greens brutal history.)

Baltic States, USSR-ish (Closing the story with a last conflict between GRU-SV8 and Delta Green during the Baltic Chain protests.)

I can only do 10 of those 11 initial ideas, so I'd need to drop one. Most likely Lisbon or the Baltics campaign. The Portugal one because it can really be set in any era and I feel like it doesn't quite fit the theme of the other campaigns-- though I like it because it's different enough to be a refreshing break from the others like a nice Iberian vacation for your Agents. The one in the Baltics would tie a lot together in the end as a backdrop to a final showdown between old rivals that would be built up over the series, but the scope is big enough to make my head spin. Curious on others thoughts.

Along with these, some would have their own mini-scenarios with their own maps tacked on for oneshot "flashback" sessions to play out information revealed in-characters through some other means like reading an intelligence report or hidden tome. These are meant to be more experimental, for fun, and not meant to be fleshed out to a full campaign. That would include, potentially:

The Sino-Vietnamese border clash of 1979, playing as Kuen-Yien agents

Northern Ireland, playing as the Army of the Third Eye or

Ancient Wales playing as aspirant Knights of the Round Table (like ancient PISCES)

A Hollow Earth section in Agatha for Mammoth Caves

Land-Between-the-Lakes, Kentucky in 1955 responding to the Hopkinsville Goblin case

Kodiak Island as an Anchorage late game expansion

Playing as Knights Templar in medieval Antioch (for Portugal)

Teutonic Knights in medieval Riga (for the Baltics)

US Invasion of Grenada, 1983

Genyosha samurai uprising in Kyushu, 1887

This shits a lot, and it's going to take me a loooong time to cover it so any sourceguide drafts will be mostly outlining these settings assuming I stick with tackling all these overtime. But insight, encouragement, or especially suggestions is from fellow Agents and Handlers who listen to my rambling ass will be my bread and butter throwing this together so please, I encourage anyone to ask questions or give advice!

[nightbringer24]

Interesting idea for a video game I’d like to see:

Sino-Vietnamese war.