#SOMEHOW FEANOR RETURNED

[redbean-nom]

star wars by silm logic

for the silm-sw dual citizens:

I was wondering what would happen if star wars (particularly tbb bc that's the currently-releasing bit of star wars) adhered to silm logic:

Hunter is the local leader of a hidden city (Pabu)

Omega is the heir

Rex is the overall leader of a warring people (clone rebellion)

Hemlock is the local leader of a branch of the Forces of Evil

Palpatine is the overall Enemy

so therefore

Rex and Echo gather an army of escaped clones. They rescue Cody or Wolffe from the Empire. Song and fire are greatly involved.

Themes of rising hope are invoked as they make a stand against the Empire. The clone rebellion grows further.

They are initially victorious and manage to rescue the clone prisoners from Tantiss with few casualties. Hemlock is ousted and flees to the heart of the Empire (but his operation will return in time)

Echo goes to check on the Batch on Pabu and ask them to ally with him and Rex in the upcoming battle.

They march on Coruscant. Things suddenly go disastrously wrong. Cody is killed in battle. Rex faces Palpatine in single combat.

Rex dies tragically.

Eagles.

Echo tells Hunter about the battle. They are delayed on their way and attempt to ride to the rescue. The Batch arrives just after the deaths. Echo is sad.

Pabu is betrayed while the Batch is on Coruscant.

Pabu is invaded by the Empire. Hemlock subjugates the people into his weird clone experimentation program.

Dragons.

The Batch returns to destroyed/invaded Pabu and is unable to intervene.

While attempting to protect their city most of the Batch dies.

Echo is very sad.

Hunter is captured and killed in front of Omega.

Omega escapes and swears an Oath mourns the Batch.

Echo is broken by grief for the ghosts of his past and vanishes.

Omega later becomes a Rebellion leader, carrying the memories of the failed clone rebellion and the haven of Pabu with her.

Echo fades/dies on some random planet as the forgotten remnant of the GAR/Clone rebellion.

[istaricelebelasse]

There is a horn. It is nothing special, made from the tusk of some beast that Aredhel barely even recalls felling.

There had been many such beasts on The Ice after all.

The horn had found its way into her luggage and over so many restless nights watching over little Idril she had made it.

It does not compare to those that The Hunt had used in Aman, bound as it is with scant strips of leather and metalwork repurposed from a necklace that she could not wear on The Ice.

But it is hers. And it is precious, in a strange way.

She does not take it when she leaves her brother’s city. It remains, untouched, in her rooms.

It watches as she slowly fades from a poison bestowed by her husband.

The horn is given to her son, yet he has no use for it. A love of hunting and the great outdoors was not anything she passed on to her only child.

It is gifted to another, to a child borne of his cousin, a more precious gift than perhaps his cousin realises.

(One of the few pieces he has of his mother. A wish and a warning and an apology all at once.)

Somehow it survives the Fall. Somehow it ends up in Sirion.

It does not burn in the destruction. Nor is it taken by the Sons of Feanor as they take their hostages.

It lies, abandoned on the floor, until the King comes (too late) to the aid of the city.

There are too few survivors, but they can ill afford to leave any supplies behind. And besides, Gil-Galad can recall his cousin placing a strange solemn honour upon the hunting horn.

It sits, unused, until the Sons of Earendil are returned to their king, whereupon it, aged and yet bearing a presence is returned to them.

There is little argument over which of them gets that piece of their father when it is time for them to separate. The elder twin takes it, as he took their foster father’s sword. The younger is content with a silver harp and the book of their mother’s herblore.

Elros takes it with him. A symbol of his House, and honour for his heir to bear.

Down it goes, down down down the generations until there is little but a drop of Numenorian blood left in its bearer.

It crosses oceans and continents and Ages of the World, survives battles and sieges and the falls of Great Cities and Great Kings until all that is left is a Steward upon his throne sending a son to find answers for a dream.

Finally, on the shores of a river, overlooked by statues of the Kings of Old, the horn is blown for the last time.

It is blown to summon aid, to draw attention, to allow those it’s bearer would protect the chance to escape.

It takes three arrows to take down the horn’s bearer, and the Falls of Rauros to finally grant the horn rest.

The Horn of Aredhel Maeglin Earendil Elros Numenor Gondor is no more.

[neyafromfrance95]

I don’t know if this has been talked about already, but on my rewatch of S1, I noticed that, in the episode Sauron and Galadriel first meet on the raft (1x02) Celebrimbor tells Elrond about the beauty of the silmarils and how it affected Morgoth:

“They say that Morgoth found the Silmarils so beautiful that after he'd stolen them, for weeks, he could do nothing but stare into their depths. It was only after one of his tears fell upon the jewels and he was faced with the evil of his own reflection that the reverie was finally broken. From that moment, he... he looked upon their light no more. Feanor's work nearly turned the heart of the Great Foe himself.”

In 1x01, Arondir also tells Bronwyn that “Beauty Has Great Power To Heal The Soul.”

Can these quotes somehow explain why Sauron looked so flabbergasted at Galadriel (2x01)? We know Fëanor was inspired by how the light reflected on Gal’s hair to create the Silmarils, so there is a connection there. Sauron didn’t exactly “stole” Galadriel, but we do see him staring at her for weeks, even in the background. I think they went with the “repented Sauron” in the first episodes, but then he return to evil because of his bounds to Morgoth (“Sauron in truth repented, if only out of fear, being dismayed by the fall of Morgoth and the great wrath of the Lords of the West (…) he hid himself in Middle-Earth; fell back into evil, for the bonds that Morgoth had laid upon him were very strong” - The Silmarillion). And many people have noticed that Galadriel could have helped Sauron stay “in the right path” (and he himself might have believed this for a while).

Thoughts?

i love you big brain pattern detecting anon! that's such a good catch! can't believe how much detail and thought is put into this dynamic and i think you have figured out what was up with sauron's flabbergasted stare, it fits into the puzzle with the other lines you mentioned perfectly!

the observation you made also explains why he saved her, risking his own form that he regained at least, after just having abandoned the old man to die!

from the battlefield to Ost-in-Edhil, he keeps looking for her and calling her. it's not a stretch to say that he is obsessed/fixated on her.

and yes, i think it's clear that sauron was genuinely regretful for having a hand in something that caused galadriel pain, just look at his expression when he hears her confession and apologizes for everything! he didn't apologize as halbrand, he apologized as sauron!

maybe he believed that if she stayed with him, he'd be good for the middle-earth bc he wanted to be good to her (would that really happen? probs not bc galadriel is more susceptible to the darkness than sauron is open to the light). but then she rejected him and he just cared to achieve his goal, not caring about how he'd get there. and yet! yet he ever so groped for her and her thought, his fixation never went away, the devil got bewitched for eternity!

[eri-pl]

Maedhros poll

[polutrope]

If you like: AU where Feanor & Co. comes to Middle-earth *without* the first kinslaying...

💖.

AU - First Kinslaying Didn't Happen

I've had to ponder this for a while. So much conflict and plot gets sacrificed if the Noldor don't have their Fall at Alqualonde! But okay, here's what happens:

Feanor, speaks to the Teleri t Alqualonde. But ,,this time, he uses better rhetoric, and Finarfin gets there earlier to do some damage control. Feanor stirs up longing in the hearts of a least half the Teleri to return to their forsaken kin.

Olwe wishes to return and find his brother, but as leader he feels bound to remain with those who wish to stay. But his daughter Earwen goes. The Teleri follow Finarfin and Earwen.

Now there are three hosts under the three sons of Finwe, with Feanor's being the smallest.

So the Noldor & Teleri have boats (yay!) but far, far too few for so big a host. And, because the boats belong to the Teleri, the deal is Finarfin and the Teleri gets to sail them up the coasts.

Now Feanor is being humiliated (as he sees it) by not one but both of his brothers.

Earwen (Finarfin is there, but he is tired; he doesn't really want to do this, honestly) informs the Noldor that they will be sailing to Endor first. They are the better sailors, after all, and there are those among them who dwelt on the very same coasts they are returning to. Once they've scouted it out, they will come back for the others.

Feanor is not having it. He is not letting those Teleri come at Morgoth first!! He plots with his sons to steal the ships. But Earwen is not blinded by kinship and inferiority complexes wrt Feanor; she is one step ahead of him. Earwen and her children set sail in the night.

Finarfin stays behind with the noble but misguided hope that his presence there will somehow keep things peaceable between Feanor and Fingolfin, and reassure them that Earwen intends to come back.

The Teleri have an easy journey over the sea. (Osse is pleased to see them returning to Beleriand, and Ulmo and the rest of the Valar have no reason to try to stop them.)

But it's not so easy when they land. They are immediately spotted by the orc host besieging the Falas. Seeing as they did not listen to Morgoth, they have few weapons and no knowledge of warfare. If not for Finarfin's children and their small contingent of people, who do have some knowledge of war, they would have been completely destroyed.

Angrod and Aegnor drive the host back to Angband... however, they are themselves killed in the valiant push.

Back in Araman, things are tense. Feanor has got it in his head that they should cross the Helcaraxe. There's no way Fingolfin is leading his people across the Helcaraxe, that would be insane. Swords are drawn in council -- Maedhros and Fingon have to wrestle their fathers away from killing each other.

Realising it's better for everyone if they are separated, even Feanor's more reasonable sons get behind his plan to cross the Helcaraxe; in bitterness, they set out without Fingolfin's people.

Meanwhile, in Beleriand, the Teleri of Aman have made contact with the Sindar. Cirdan and Thingol's people agree to help the diminished Teleri sail back for the Noldor they left behind.

They reach Araman to find Fingolfin in conflict with his children over whether to return to Tirion (Fingolfin) or push on to Beleriand (his children). There's also poor Finarfin who would definitely go back if his wife and children were not already over there.

After much debate, everyone decides to take ship, some with more enthusiasm than others. They come to Beleriand.

Meanwhile, on the Helcaraxe, Feanor falls through the ice and dies. (Yep, just like that.)

His sons press on under the determined but untested leadership of Maedhros.

The brothers bicker a lot. Amrod gets pissed off enough to try and turn back, but within sight of his brothers he is swallowed by the ice. So: that's what happens if you try to walk away from the Oath, they all think.

The remaining six come into Beleriand with the first rising of the Moon and Sun and march unhindered straight to the gates of Angband and bang on the gates. No one answers.

The sons retreat south ...

... where they find Fingolfin fully established as a vassal king to Thingol. Fuck that: a) that's not your kingship; b) you made the kingship of the Noldor a vassalage to a Teler?

They also do some mental gymnastics to make it Fingolfin's fault they crossed the Helcaraxe. They had to leave! How else could they have kept peace between their father (dead now btw!) and Fingolfin?? And it's not like they could turn back to Tirion, they had their Oath, you know.

The situation among the Noldor is bad. And no one's captive in Angband to provide an opportunity for conciliatory rescues. What a shame.

Eventually, with all the conflicts brewing, there's still Elf-on-Elf war, but it's in Beleriand. And it's bigger, and worse, with slaying of actual close kin.

Morgoth makes popcorn and laughs.

[tar-maitime]

last words

Rating: T Characters: Maedhros | Maitimo, Sons of Feanor Relationships: Maedhros & Sons of Feanor Additional: character death, grieving, kinslayings, War of Wrath WC: .75k

@feanorianweek snuck up on me, so instead of writing something for each of the days, I'm just going to have to go with this...

.......

“Are you so quick to turn your back on our father, then, traitor?”

It’s not the last thing Curufin says to her. There are plenty more words between them, in that fight that eventually ends with an agreement to attack Doriath, and in the preparations that lead up to the assault. But by some chance or other, it happens that ‘traitor’ is the last thing Curufin calls her.

Not ‘sister’. Not any of her names. Just that ugly word that hangs between them, that she keeps hoping they’ll have time to resolve, up until she finds him dead in a pool of blood on the floor.

Maedhros doesn’t know why it sticks in her mind like that.

The last thing Celegorm calls her is ‘general’, as in “As you command, General,” with a too-playful grin and a wink, when they’re discussing who will be deployed where just before the attack. Maedhros only finds out later that he’d disregarded her instructions entirely to chase down Dior Eluchil and fight him personally.

He’s still wearing that same grin when she finds him dead in the throne room, even though his wounds tell her that he didn’t die quickly. She wonders if he teased at death the way he did with her and their brothers.

She hears his voice calling her General, General, General, over and over till it loses all meaning, as she sprints through the frozen woods looking for the lost princes, as she returns empty-handed and deals out justice to Celegorm’s men.

The last time she sees Caranthir alive, he says, “The strap on your pauldron is wearing thin, Nelyë,” with such complete normalcy that she has to rack her brain, later, to realize that those were his last words to her. She can’t seem to take it in. Celegorm and Curufin had practically courted their deaths in Doriath, and she’d sought to save them from it as much as she’d sought to save Doriath from them. But Caranthir...she hadn’t seen it coming. She doesn’t think he did, either.

Her father, her uncle, her cousin, her husband all were afforded some kind of dramatic weight to their deaths, to make the world stop and acknowledge that something had gone horribly wrong. Kneeling in a corridor in Menegroth, Maedhros can only think inanely that it’s unfair somehow for her middle brother not to have been granted the same dubious courtesy.

.......

The last thing Amrod calls her is ‘Maitimë’. If he’d called her anything else, anything else...

But Maedhros hasn’t thought of herself by that name in centuries. She never gets to ask why he landed on that name out of all the many she’s had - a flashback to Alqualondë? a mere slip of the tongue? - because the disused name takes a fraction too long to get her attention, and by the time she turns toward him, one of his opponents has already put a sword through his ribs.

She pays more attention after that (after she’s screamed, after she’s laid waste to the defenders of Sirion who did this). She makes sure she knows exactly where Maglor and Amras are and what their situation is at all times after that. 

It’s not enough to save Amras, who dies in her shaking arms, calling her “Amya.”

Perhaps he wasn’t talking to her at all, saying that - Maedhros’ face is more like her father’s, and the scars and cropped hair have left any resemblance to Nerdanel vestigial at best. But she still hears it echo in her mind along with traitor and General and Nelyë and Maitimë, so as far as she’s concerned, it counts. 

She is glad, when it occurs to her, that the twins (the new ones, Maglor’s peredhil who want to be hers as well) never call her that in their quest to bestow a maternal title on her.

.......

When Maedhros goes out to fight in her last battle of the War of Wrath, Maglor stops her with a hand on her arm, and makes her eat something, and tells her “Stay safe, sister,” before she leaves.

There’s no particular reason to think that those will be his last words to her, any more than any other parting might be their last. But Maedhros still tucks them away in a drawer in her memory, just in case.  “You too, hanno,” she says, and ducks out of their tent to make for the latest battlefield.

[ladysolidor87]

More thoughts on the season finale. WARNING: Spoiler Alert 🚨 Only read if you’ve watched the season two finale.

- Towards the end of the episode we see Sauron with Feanor’s hammer, which I assume he will use (alongside his own blood) to forge the one ring. We also see Elendil take Narsil, the blade that will cut the ring from Sauron’s hand.

We see both Sauron’s way to power and the beginning of his downfall. As Celebrimbor tells him, he creates his own doom. All his power in one object, an object we know will ultimately be destroyed by one person, Gollum. Celebrimbor pretty much predicts it for Sauron and Sauron hates it.

Sauron weeps. I’d like to think a small slither of him is sad for killing Celebrimbor but let’s be honest, he’s crying for himself. I’m almost certain, deep down he knows he’s doomed.

- It’s implied at the end that Durin may end up wearing the ring that led to his father’s madness and death. (Loved that he managed to take the bloody ring off in the end though) With oppositions rising to take the throne they all look to the ring, be it warily at the moment. I’ve got a dreadful feeling Durin will eventually put it on. I can foresee lots of horrid things and it makes me sad. I love them so much. But the dwarves do dig and Khazad-Dum does fall…gotta get there somehow.

- Queen Miriel is seen in chains before Pharazôn. Am I right in thinking that he marries her in text to strengthen his claim to the throne? Forgive me friends, my knowledge isn’t as complete as I’d like. If a learned friend could confirm or deny that would be great. Whatever the case, I hope Elendil raises a force to rescue her.

- I think Eärien will see the errors of her way. She looked rather uncomfortable at points, especially when the faithful were declared as traitors and she immediately went to warn her father. When Isildur returns I think she will turn against Pharazon if she doesn’t before hand. A nice mini redemption arc would be sweet for her. Bonus points if she bumps off Kemen (although I think Isildur will do that!)

- Gandalf has arrived. Not sure how I feel about his early arrival but I must admit it’s bloody lovely to have him! He is such a wonderful character and we see now where his deep love of the Halflings comes from. I do wonder who the dark wizard is though. Any theories? I don’t know Tolkiens work well enough to guess myself. (I’ve only read the Silmarillion once and my poor mind couldn’t absorb much of it.)

- Did we see the birth of Rivendell? That’s where the elves are, right? Can’t wait to see that explored in season three.

- Gil-Galad and Galadriel getting on for once was lovely 🥰

- Elrond is perfection as always. For the record, I don’t think the kiss between Elrond and Galadriel was at all romantic. Just my opinion! If you ship them then that’s great. I just think it was a farewell kiss and a bit of distraction. They definitely love each other but just don’t see the romantic aspect myself. I loved when he put on the ring. He was so reluctant but did it for Galadriel. Loved it ❤️

That’s all for now! Send me your own thoughts and theories. I genuinely want to talk about this amazing series. Also, for anyone who knows the texts inside and out, teach me! And correct me when I’m wrong which is…probably a lot 😆

[nighttimepatrons]

Some Miriel doodles for my Like Mother Like Son au

@transsexualhamlet you asked about some of those dragon aus I mentioned so here's a little but about this one.

So in this au, after Feanor is born Miriel goes through the whole fading thing but she stays in Tirion for all of it. Near the end of it she turns into a dragon and in the rush of shifting shape she smashes her way out of the palace and flies away. (I'm not set on this but maybe Miriel was a dragon in arda and she allowed herself to be wooed by Finwe somehow and she ends up turning into an elf and joining him on the long walk. After everything with Feanor I think she could have stayed as an elf and died or returned to as she were.) Anyway Feanor and Finwe are both kinda traumatized by all this but they forge on, as they do. All the normal stuff happens then but I can tell you that part of the reason why Feanor travels so much at the start of his marriage (and before) is that that he's trying to find his mother, and he gets extremely sad because it seems like just any random traveling elf will catch sight of Miriel but he never does.

oh also Feanor totally feels out of sorts with the world sometimes, almost like he's too big for his own skin, sure hope that isn't going to lead some where :)

[katrina37973]

The Ambarussa (Amrod and Amras)!

I wanted to make more art of Silm characters, and I somehow linked the Ambarussa with playing cards which sent me on a mental spiral into which Silm characters would be what cards.

The idea of Tolkien characters as art for a pack of cards is a concept I'm probably never going to return to again but it is a fun idea!

I have like seven other WIP's so I'm probably never going to actually finish this art but hope still reigns eternal!

I wasn't sure what to include as accessories of sorts, but ended up with swords, quivers of arrows and of course, the Star of Feanor. I'm playing with the idea of making the background/centre mimic Feanor's Heraldic device. I initially wanted bows to show their more hunter-inclined but I thought it would be too much noise and hard to see with what I already have.

I forgot how I ended up choosing the Tengwar (?) letter above but I think it ran something along the lines of it was an 'a' which was kinda funny cause originally I wanted this card to be based on the Jokers but then switched to Ace because you know, it starts with A. (I also headcanon neither of them being romantically inclined so it also matched)

I hope that made sense, anyway, have a nice day or night!

[lendmyboyfriendahand]

FInwe in the third age part ii

Over the next few days, the injured elf woke only briefly, saying confused phrases, or moaning in pain. Elrond considered whether it would promote peace in the valley if the only one present in the room who spoke no Quenya, so they could spread no rumors. But that would further distress the patient, and Elrond did not want him - whoever he was - to be upset, or to be tempted to go out and find answers. So there was always someone in the room who spoke Quenya, a nurse or a child of the Exile or a member of Elrond's family, with instructions to alert Elrond immediately if the patient was able to converse. (And to tell no one what they overheard, "for the sake of the stranger's privacy.")

It was nearly a week before Elrond was able to test his suspicions with anyway other than Glorfindel's sketches. Elladan had rushed to his study with the news that the patient was awake and impatient to know what was going on.

"Good afternoon, I'm glad to see you're feeling recovered. I am Elrond Peredhel, lord and chief healer of Rivendell."

"Yes, your son mentioned. I'm sorry, you seem familiar somehow but I can't think of any hall called Rivendell in Aman."

"I am not surprised you haven't, it's a long way from Tirion and we have not met before. I know you just survived a very stressful situation, but I have to ask you some questions to make sure you're oriented before I can explain."

"Even before you can tell me if anyone else survived the attack? The one in here earlier said it's been days, is there no word of my grandsons?" The patient began to push himself out of the bed as he said this.

Elrond pushed down on his shoulder, the weight too much for the injured elf to lift. (It's not treason to give your king medical care, and it's not like I ever pledged him my service. Elrond reminded himself. It feels like blasphemy, but when has that stopped me?) "Do NOT try to stand or sit! Your belly was torn open, and any further movement could tear it again. And as for your question, I could answer it better if I knew who you were."

"I'm Finwe! King of the Noldor and lord of Tirion - though currently Nolofinwe is ruling it. How do you not know that? Even the few Noldor I haven't spoken with should have seen me at festivals."

Elrond ignored the question. "It's good that you recall that. You were the only member of your family injured in the attack. Now, can you talk me through what you remember happening?"

Finwe sighed in relief. "That's good. I remember there was darkness. But deeper than I'd seen anywhere in Valinor, even in caves. Deeper even than a cloudy night in the forest beside Cuivienen. It was terrifying, and strange, and impossible. I told Maitimo to find his brothers and run, but something was coming. I stayed to fight it off, or at least buy time."

"That was very brave."

"What else could I have done? The attacker - surely you must know, your son didn't seem surprised when I told him to warn everyone - it was Melkor. The Dark Hunter has returned to his evil ways. He kept asking where Feanor was, and the Silmarils. I would not help him, but I have not fought since I hunted my meals underneath the stars. Melkor is a Vala, with all their might, and he overpowered me. The last thing I recall is seeing him walk away into the house. And then waking up here, among strangers."

Elrond nodded. "Thank you. Now, what I'm about to say will likely seem very shocking, but I must recommend as a healer that you do not make abrupt movements. Your body is still weak, far more so than your soul is accustomed to."

"What news could be that shocking, after being attacked in my home?"

"You are not in Valinor anymore, but instead are in Middle Earth. You can see for yourself out the window, that the stars are far clearer than they would be under the Trees."

"How did I get here? It must have taken months - did Melkor have me captive?"

"I have no more idea how you got here than you do; my people found you dying and half drowned on the banks of the river. You have been unconscious for nearly a week, and in that time we have seen no trace of anything that brought you here, nor any tracks leading from the site."

"But - if it's been a week, how has news reached you from Valinor? Even if Feanaro followed his plan to return to these lands, it would take months to sail."

"That is the second piece of shocking news, and the hopefully the last one of such magnitude. It has been over seven hundred years since Morgoth attacked Formenos, by the count in Valinor under the Trees. You were believed to be dead."

"That's impossible."

"And yet, it happened."

"Am I supposed to just take you at your word on this?"

"I do not give my word lightly, but I shall if you request it and will refrain from straining yourself trying to investigate shadows that aren't there."

"Do so, if you are not a servant of Melkor."

"I swear by Varda and by Ulmo that I have not lied to you, and that I wish for you to recover from your injuries. There is much I have not told you yet, as the tale of three Ages is long indeed, but I will tell you in time."

Finwe still lay there glaring at Elrond, but he made no move to get out his bed. "And how much time will it take before you tell me of my family?"

"There is little I can say for certain about how they are, as we do not have frequent news from Valinor. Artanis dwells on these shores, and rules Lothlorien with her husband. I married their daughter Celebrian, and so my sons and I are your family as well, but no one else is in Middle Earth."

"I am surprised Feanor did not come here, even after so long as you say it has been."

"He did, to avenge your death as much as to find a land where he could be free, but Melkor killed him as well."

"How convenient that all the people I would recognize are far away."

"No, it's not, as if you worry less you will heal faster. I suppose there is one. Do you know Glorfindel of - of the Golden Flower?" of Gondolin would mean nothing to Finwe.

"I think Turgon has a friend named that, have they started coming up with fancy titles when out on the town?"

"You could say that. He is the captain of Rivendell's guard, but could be spared from his duties long enough to speak with you."

"Fine, send him in."

[novemberthecatadmirer]

Stupid headcanon time

I am just thinking, would Feanor reject the Call of Mandos? How many of his sons would reject the Call?

If Amrod was burnt he probably would follow the Call because in that version he was already showing regrets and planning to go back to Valinor and being accidentally burnt to death by one's father and brother (Curufin in that version) does feel like the type of thing to make one want to run away far away immediately

Feanor? He was mad at Morgoth AND the Valar. Definitely the type to haunt and follow his sons around. I think he actually has a very good chance to have his fea captured, probably along with Maedhros. If not, he'll just get to witness his sons suffer and die one by one.

Celegorm? I think he never intended to return since the very beginning when he left Orome. I always headcanon him as the one completely abandoned the idea that they could be heroes after kinslaying and fully embraced "we're villains now gotta live fast do crime". He was the one who convinced the rest to start Second Kinslaying after all.

Curufin feels like the type that's too pride to answer the Call; I think elves do need a certain amount of remorse to be willing to go the the Halls

Caranthir might answer, or not. He would likely try to think rationally and consider the pros and cons, but it's hard to tell which option would be better from Sons of Feanor's position. (There's no way they could know if there were punishment awaited them in the Halls.)

Amras (and Amrod if no crisping) might, but I think at that point they had willingly committed three kinslaying each worse than the one before. It would be very, very hard for them to believe they would found mercy in Mandos.

(Whether the ocean had power to flush unwilling elf spirits to Mandos after flooding Beleriand is not clear.)

(Can elf spirits haunt the bottom of ocean?)

Maedhros very likely would go to Mandos willingly(and expect/wish for punishment). Maybe after sulking in the lava pit for a while. Somehow I just don't think he would follow Maglor.

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It would be kinda funny, if Maedhros went to the Halls and believed at least he would see his father and brothers, and realized none of them was there?

And Namo & his Maiar were like "They refused to come here! We do not exactly have the authority to find them & drag them here (cannot arrest people oversea)! We do not have the resource & time to find them & drag them here (already overworked and burnt out from trying to heal the dead people from all the wars thank you very much)! Why should we put extra effort to help people who reject help when we struggle to help everyone who actually wants help? Sorry but your prideful family is not the priority here when there are all these feas lost to Angband that we have not yet found."

(Just want to see a very mentally unwell ghost Maedhros team up with Huan and (maybe) a reembodied Amrod to sneak out of Valinor & drag their stupid ghost family back one by one.)

[eri-pl]

Your favorite fates of Maedhros and Maglor: results

The nice part is that nobody voted on "captured by necromancy". :) It will change when we get to Celegorm, whom poll results await with fell purpose.

Well, tbh 13 people voted on "Maedhros stayed in Angband, Fingon brought back Something Else". So it's not all roses and Silmarils.

Anyway, charts:

Maglor: 121 votes (41%) for him returning to Aman, mostly early, with Elrond. 41 votes (14%) on him dying (half on reembodied), 89 on still wandering the earth (close to a tie on whether he got better emotionally), 8 on everlasting Darkness, which is as usual not a popular option (I agree), 35 on other.

Maedhros has more decisive results: 160 votes (73%) on him going to Mandos, vast majority on eventually reembodied. This option got the absolute majority of the poll. 27 votes on the dark options. 9 on "he didn't die, Pengolodh lies", 6 on lingering as a spirit, 4 on "was allowed to go Out because of the trauma. 12 on other.

As always, details under the cut.

Maglor:

Died, lingers as a spirit until the world ends: 14 votes.

Died, lingered, captured forever by Sauron or other necromancer: 0 votes.

Died or not, but is in the Void/ Darkness / whatever due to the Oath: 8 votes.

Died, is in Mandos, not getting reembodied (like Feanor): 8 votes. Died, eventually reembodied: 19 votes.

Returned to Aman with Elrond or his sons (or anyhow around that time or before): 98 votes.

Returned to Aman (later 4A to 6A): 17 votes.

Returned to Aman late (7A or later): 6 votes.

Grieves till the world breaks (including: faded-not-died, crab, regular guy, etc: 49 votes.

Wanders the world till it breaks but got (more or less) better (incl: as above): 40 votes.

Somehow, a mix of some of those options: 25 votes.

Nuanced sea potato (that is not a mix of those options) in comments/ no favorite: 10 votes.

Maedhros:

Lingers as a spirit till the world breaks: 6 votes.

Lingered, captured forever by Sauron or other necromancer: 0 votes.

Is in the Void/ Darkness / whatever due to the Oath: 14 votes.

Is in Mandos, not getting reembodied (like Feanor): 37 votes.

Eventually reembodied: 123 votes.

The Silm is lying, he did not die in a fiery chasm; happy(-ish) ending: 7 votes.

The Silm is lying, he did not die in a fiery chasm; tragic ending: 2 votes.

Somehow, he went brrrr (which is my very stylish phrasing for "whatever Men do"): 4 votes.

A mix of options (how?): 5 votes.

No favorite: 5 votes.

Nuanced tall potato in comments: 2 votes.

Extra dark bonus option: whomever Fingon brought home it was not Mae anymore: 13 votes.

[dalliansss]

8 and 9 for curufinrod please

Extra-Dramatic OTP Asks: Send me a ship and number and I’ll tell you…

8. Who would stand up at the other’s wedding and say they object.

That would totally be Curufin. While both have equal tendencies to create drama, somehow I see Finrod as a little more passive if and when Curufin wanted to return to his wife. It's a choice Curufin made. But if we're talking about Curufin-- if and when they return to Aman, he would ensure that Finrod would return to him instead. There'll be no marrying 'that boring Vanya'.

9. Who would write long, beautiful poems for the other.

Both tbh. But Finrod enjoys Curufin's literary works more because he has a better way with words (read: Feanor's brood are known for their way with words, inherited from him). Finrod obsessively compiles each and every poem Curufin ever gave him, and bound it all into a book, complete with little pressed flowers and leaves.

@herinke

[between-thepages]

who's your favorite feanorian, what do you love most about them, and are you rotating them in your head, using them like a stress ball, or exploding them with your mind (affectionate)?

Thank you for the ask <3

It's a toss-up between Maedhros and Curufin (bc I can't choose between anything for the life of me)

Maedhros is just the type of character I tend to latch on to (as I did when I first read The Silmarillion about 7 years ago), the eldest brother who wants to do good (at least at first) and then gets broken by Thangorodrim and slowly corrupted by the Oath of Feanor. He is my little stress ball, I like to put him through terrible things (affectionately <3)

I didn't expect to be so interested in Curufin, but sometimes the mind goes in strange ways. He's an asshole for the most part (which ends up securing Aredhel's return to Gondolin) and friends with dwarves and he somehow has a wife that Tolkien never bothered to name. I just like to rotate him in my head (and occasionally explode him, but I feel like he would handle that a lot better than most characters)

[anna-dreamer]

I don't necessarily see Finwe's death as a case of heroic self-sacrifice of a flawed character redeems them in the last moment in a non-satisfying way. I would rather like to see his death as a deed Finwe himself hoped would right at least some of the wrongs he committed as king, husband, and father. And the best (or worst) part of this is his death did nothing of a kind! His children didn't make up, his people suffered even greater disunity, his living wife was left utterly alone, and soooo many deaths followed. (The only thing his death might have accomplished is a vague possibility of Miriel's return.) I also like to see Feanor's quick demise as somewhat of a mirror of his own father's death: too soon, too horrible, too much left unresolved, too great of a burden put onto surviving children.

Finwe left Feanor with only one thing to do - avenge him and retrieve the silmarils, which somehow will bring his father back. Feanor left his sons with only one thing to do - avenge him and retrieve the silmarils, which somehow will bring their father back.

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Reborn - Elven Style

So I was reading a fic on AO3 that I overall would not recommend for its obnoxious levels of Turgon and Gondolindrim bashing. In fact, that fic had a lot of random bashing of good-aligned characters.

Like Indis and Finarfin, that seems to be entirely based on the fact that Indis is a Vanya and Finarfin is most like a Vanya among his brothers. The Vanya are supposed to be the most faithful of the elves. Somehow, that translates to Indis and Finarfin are likely to be less tolerant of homosexuality than Feanor...

I am sorry, but what about Feanor says that HE'S the more tolerant between him and Finarfin! Feanor couldn't even tolerate his father picking up Vanya idioms from Indis!

Now, I am not saying that Feanor is definitely a homophobe. I am just saying that if I had to bet money, I would bet on Finarfin having a "Love is love, and they aren't hurting anyone" attitude toward homosexuality over Feanor!

So yeah, I did not enjoy that fic but read a fair amount of it because it had an interesting central concept: literal rebirth for elves, where elves who have lived, particularly traumatic lives get reborn as infants with no memory from their first life.

I have seen this fanart from Choistar on Pinterest that lives rent-free in my head because of how cute baby Maedhros is, but I don't think Choister is implying Maedhros has been reborn with a clean slate. I think Choistar's idea is more that instead of immediately getting an adult body, elves spend a little while as a baby just to get used to the world again.

So, I think that the idea of suggesting that some elves had lives so traumatic or have personalities so flawed that they can't be embodied unless they are given a clean slate is quite interesting.

If we assume that Mandos doesn't want to keep any elf in his halls indifferently, it does make sense that he would grant elves who would otherwise never heal a second chance to start over from infancy.

There are elves who will never accept forgetting their first life, like Feanor and his sons. But for others, yes, I totally see the concept working.

So I suddenly want to write a sequel to my fic Whispering Wind where Maglor and my OC Ninglorrîn, who at the end of the fic ends up sharing her body with Caranthir's soul, return to Aman to find Russingon running a foster home for second-chance elflings!