#Retrocausality

[kidflashimpulse]

After having reread the first chapter of Retrocausality and the newest chapter of AAIT, I'm REALLY curious how Jaime will react when (if?) Bart tells him that Owen is in their timeline after having heard Bart's stories and literally having seen Bart cry about Owen and his past

Like okay, Jaime still being a Mom Friend and defending Owen after Bart said that he loves Jaime more than his own brother is such a Jaime thing to do but I also feel like Owen (accidentally?) completely messed Bart's view of a stable life up in their own timeline, and I very much believe that Jaime knows that and very much holds that against Owen

i don’t even mean this hyperbolically but u’ve nailed the situation exactly as it is (and nicely tied up the two plot points that were the reason for why i couldn’t help but post the prologue to Retrocausality, like i really couldn’t help myself LOL)

the “accidentally completely messed Barts view of a stable life up in their own timeline” is everything because yes, the horrors of a post apocalyptic society isn’t just the event that had caused everything and the wasteland of an environment they had to live in, but also the resulting toxic and abusive remains of a society that they have to grow up in and navigate.

Owen is a character who i see as deeply flawed, but that’s also inadvertently his appeal/charm. And I think his tropes play nicely into Barts themes. Owen’s not a bad person and he’s always just trying his best, but that doesn’t excuse his actions (?) either.

Whilst i think (and did atleast attempt to allude throughout AAIT in spite of/including the latest chapter) that the two cared for eachother deeply, i think it’s realistic to expect it to have been a heavy and loaded relationship. And despite Jaimes sympathetic mom friend nature (as u so nicely put it lol) he feels for Bart and in doing so he knows that he ultimately loved Owen which is ironically why he’s arguing with him because it’s like he wants to help bart untangle his messed up view of his relationship with owen. But hes only doing that because of his friendship and understanding for the other, and at the same time 100% does hold it against Owen.

there is then the role of what it means for jaime to be blue beetle and how Owen would cope with that, but that’s a whole other essay in itself 😹

as i low-key may have spoiled in some previous posts, the very important points that u’ve raised do manifest in upcoming chapters but- probably not in the way u might be thinking/expect, atleast not this “early” on in Retrocausality .

Thank u so much for reading and for sharing these thoughts with us, always so fun to read and think about <333

[nyarlathotep-the-dark-pharaoh]

What did you get Nobel Peace prizes in? Fucking guys? Idiot

actually they are not Nobel peace prizes one is for literature and one is for chemistry I think. I only took one of them the other was for my work in being cool as fuck. btw I fucked your mom. Like originally. That was me. hello my beautiful son Charles E. Watson in Fairfield, Iowa

[shininglightofthehorizon]

The Art of Offering Naivedya to Mother Lakshmi by a Ritual of Surrender (Samarpan) of Optical Geometry of Beauty to the Eyes of the World

In the woodcut lithographs and serigraphs in the luminous moons of tetra-aeonic manuscripts, the pulsating pattern of her movement in poise, her dancing feet over icy waters, amazonites, corals, rubies and milkwood roses, strings the lyre’s ephemeral songs They are sung in the orbs that dazzle in her celestial diadem and in the grasses that hung over blue bells or autumnal seeds Gazing into the…

[ylespar]

"The usual interpretation of a precognition is that it is a glimpse from the present into the future as if looking forward through a time window at an event-to-be-experienced, but in the time loop hypothesis, the event-to-be-experienced is causally acting back upon the now, whether in the form of a vivid precognitive dream or a sudden waking vision. According to this hypothesis, the personal future of each of us acts back upon the present in a continuous cycling loop of retrocausal experiencing along a retrocausal spectrum of effect from subliminal influencing of one future scenario over other scenarios before making an apparent free will decision to full blown premonition. Wargo emphasises that we do not precognise an external physical event such as a car crash—what is precognised is our eventual knowledge of it. He suggests that this retrocausal faculty is an evolutionary strategy, citing James Carpenter (2012) who argues that psi acts as the ‘leading edge’ of subliminal perception throughout life. As Wargo says 'This is an important corrective to the common presumption that if ESP exists it must be a rare occurrence. We should not confuse how difficult it is to imagine a thing with how difficult nature finds in accomplishing it' (p. 85). Wargo proposes that retrocausation is not only the best explanation for precognitive experiences but probably the best explanation for telepathy and clairvoyance as well in that their occurrence is confirmed by later knowledge. What he proposes is that retrocausation is the agent of psi-acquired information as psi cannot present information about what you will never know has happened or will happen."

Robert Charman, “Time Loops: Precognition, Retrocausality and the Unconscious,” Journal of the Society for Psychical Research 83, no. 4 (October 2019): 234.

[sifytech]

Retrocausality: When the future affects the past

Reality seems stranger than fiction as research into quantum mechanics leads to a theory of the future affecting the past writes Satyen K. Bordoloi. Read More. https://www.sify.com/science-tech/retrocausality-when-the-future-affects-the-past/

[spectraparanormalchronicles]

Retrocausality and Paranormal Events: A Theoretical Exploration

Abstract

This paper proposes a theoretical framework to explore the possibility that retrocausality—effects preceding their causes—might explain certain paranormal phenomena that defy conventional chronological interpretations of cause and effect. By extending the quantum mechanical concept of retrocausality to macroscopic events, we aim to provide a novel perspective on unexplained phenomena commonly categorized as paranormal.

Introduction

Retrocausality is a concept in quantum theory suggesting that an effect can occur before its cause. While traditionally confined to the quantum realm, this paper hypothesizes the extension of retrocausality to explain paranormal phenomena, such as precognition, hauntings, and other psychic phenomena, which are often dismissed by traditional scientific inquiry due to their non-linear temporal characteristics.

Overview of Quantum Entanglement and the EPR Paradox

Quantum entanglement is a phenomenon where pairs or groups of particles interact in such a way that the quantum state of each particle cannot be described independently of the state of the others, regardless of the distance separating them. This leads to correlations between observable physical properties of the systems.

The Einstein-Podolsky-Rosen (EPR) paradox, formulated by Albert Einstein, Boris Podolsky, and Nathan Rosen in 1935, challenges the completeness of quantum mechanics. They considered a thought experiment where two particles are entangled in such a way that measuring a property (like position or momentum) of one particle immediately influences the state of the other particle, no matter how far apart they are. Einstein called this "spooky action at a distance" and argued that it suggests that quantum mechanics might be incomplete, positing that there could be hidden variables explaining these correlations without the need for action at a distance.

Introduction to the Transactional Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics

The transactional interpretation of quantum mechanics, proposed by John Cramer in 1986, offers a unique perspective by incorporating retrocausality to explain quantum phenomena, including entanglement and wave function collapse. In this interpretation, quantum events are seen as a standing wave formed by the interference of an advanced wave moving backward in time from the future and a retarded wave moving forward in time from the past.

Transactional Process: This interpretation views every quantum event as a transaction involving a "handshake" through spacetime. An offer wave is emitted by the source (emitter), which then travels to the absorber. Upon receiving this wave, the absorber sends a confirmation wave back to the emitter. This handshake across time ensures a transaction where only those waves that result in a completed transaction contribute to the physical experience.

Wave Function: In the transactional interpretation, the wave function represents a real physical wave, which is usually complex and involves components moving both forward and backward in time. The collapse of the wave function is modeled not as a mysterious collapse upon observation but as an actual physical process where the backward-in-time confirmation waves destructively interfere with the forward-in-time offer waves, resolving into a definite state.

Retrocausality and Nonlocality: This interpretation naturally incorporates retrocausality, where the future can affect the past in a very real sense, as the absorber can be seen to causally affect the emitter’s past state. The nonlocal correlations of entangled particles are explained without needing faster-than-light communication, as the transactions can be instantaneous across any distance, consistent with quantum mechanics' predictions but from a temporally bidirectional viewpoint.

The transactional interpretation offers a compelling resolution to the paradoxes of quantum mechanics by postulating that causality can fundamentally be a two-way street. It suggests that if retrocausality is a valid component of physical theory, then many quantum mechanical phenomena might not be as counterintuitive as they appear under traditional interpretations. This approach provides a fertile ground for rethinking not only quantum mechanics but also the nature of time and causality in the universe.

Paranormal Phenomena: Challenges to Conventional Temporal Causality

Definition and Examples

Paranormal phenomena refer to experiences that lie outside the range of normal experience or scientific explanation, or those that purportedly involve the influence of factors beyond the known physical world. These phenomena often challenge the conventional understanding of time and causality, presenting characteristics that seem to defy the linear progression of cause and effect as understood in classical physics.

Examples of Paranormal Phenomena:

Precognition: The ability to see or know about events before they happen. This could include dreams or visions about future incidents that cannot be explained by inference or logic.

Ghosts and Hauntings: Reports of spirits or ghostly presences often involve interactions with beings or entities from different times, sometimes manifesting as scenes from the past.

Psychokinesis: The purported ability to influence physical systems without physical interaction, which could potentially include temporal manipulation if objects are moved or affected at times that do not align with the direct cause.

Telepathy: The communication between people through thoughts or feelings without known sensory channels, sometimes reported to occur synchronously and independent of time.

Discussion of Common Scientific and Skeptical Viewpoints

The scientific community generally remains skeptical of paranormal claims primarily because they often lack empirical evidence and reproducibility, which are fundamental to the scientific method.

Scientific and Skeptical Viewpoints Include:

Lack of Empirical Evidence: Many paranormal phenomena are anecdotal, based on personal experiences that are not verifiable through objective measurement or scientific methodology.

Violation of Physical Laws: Paranormal claims often involve mechanisms that contradict well-established laws of physics, such as the conservation of energy or the principle of causality in classical physics.

Cognitive and Perceptual Biases: Psychological explanations, such as the power of suggestion, confirmation bias, and the misinterpretation of sensory information, are often used to explain why individuals believe they have experienced paranormal events.

Reproducibility: A core tenet of scientific inquiry is reproducibility. Many paranormal phenomena fail this criterion, as they are not consistently reproducible under controlled conditions.

Alternative Explanations: Scientists and skeptics argue that paranormal phenomena can often be explained by more mundane processes, including fraud, hallucination, or misinterpretation of natural phenomena.

Integration of Retrocausality in Paranormal Research

The concept of retrocausality from quantum mechanics introduces a possible framework to reconsider paranormal phenomena. If retrocausal effects can exist at the quantum level, there is a speculative basis to ponder whether similar effects could occur on macroscopic scales or under unique conditions, potentially explaining some paranormal occurrences.

This approach does not validate paranormal claims but suggests a theoretical model where these phenomena could be subject to rigorous scientific scrutiny under the broader umbrella of non-conventional physical theories. By extending the boundaries of what is considered scientifically plausible, researchers can explore new models of reality that integrate non-linear causality, potentially leading to new understandings of time, consciousness, and reality itself.

Link Between Quantum and Macroscopic Worlds: Scaling Retrocausal Effects

Quantum mechanics, particularly phenomena such as entanglement and retrocausality, provides insights into interactions that defy classical notions of time and space. While these phenomena are traditionally confined to the quantum scale, this paper proposes a theoretical bridge that explores the possibility of scaling quantum retrocausal effects to macroscopic phenomena. This concept may offer explanations for events traditionally classified as paranormal by suggesting that under certain conditions, the peculiarities of quantum mechanics could manifest in the observable, larger-scale world.

Quantum Foundations

Quantum retrocausality involves events where cause and effect appear reversed; an effect precedes its cause. In quantum mechanics, this is not a violation of temporal order but a feature of the fundamental level of particle interactions, as suggested by interpretations like the transactional interpretation of quantum mechanics. This interpretation posits a symmetrical exchange of waves through time, reconciling the probabilities of quantum mechanics with real physical phenomena.

Hypothesis: Scaling Retrocausality

The central hypothesis of this paper is that under specific, perhaps rare or extreme conditions, retrocausal effects observed at the quantum level might influence larger-scale systems, leading to phenomena perceived as paranormal. These conditions might include but are not limited to:

Highly coherent states in large systems where quantum effects like superposition or entanglement can occur at a scale larger than typically observed.

Environmental or situational triggers that align with specific quantum states, potentially amplifying these effects to a macroscopic level.

Conscious observation, where the observer’s interaction with a quantum system could scale the effects of retrocausality due to a collapse of the wave function, influenced by backward-in-time causality.

Theoretical Bridge

To explore this hypothesis, we propose a multi-disciplinary approach that includes:

Quantum Physics: Detailed analysis of conditions under which quantum phenomena scale up.

Neuroscience and Psychology: Examination of human perception and its interaction with potential quantum phenomena, assessing how consciousness might be linked to quantum processes.

Environmental Science: Study of specific environmental conditions that could facilitate the scaling of quantum effects.

Potential Mechanisms

Several theoretical mechanisms could potentially support the scaling of quantum retrocausal effects:

Entanglement Networks: Large-scale networks of entangled particles could form under certain conditions, allowing for instantaneous, non-local connections across macroscopic distances.

Quantum Coherence in Biological Systems: Theories such as those proposing quantum coherence in photosynthesis or avian navigation suggest that life might harness quantum effects; similarly, human perception could occasionally become susceptible to retrocausal quantum phenomena.

Topological Features of Spacetime: Speculative physics suggests that certain topological features of spacetime might allow for macroscopic quantum effects under conditions typically associated with high energy or gravitational anomalies.

Implications and Applications

Exploring the possibility of macroscopic retrocausality opens new avenues for understanding phenomena that currently reside outside the explanatory power of classical physics. This could have profound implications for fields such as paranormal research, psychology, and even philosophy, challenging our understanding of reality, causality, and time. Furthermore, this exploration could lead to practical applications in technology and computation, where quantum principles are leveraged at larger scales than previously thought possible.

While speculative, the proposal to investigate if and how quantum retrocausal effects might scale to the macroscopic level invites a reexamination of phenomena typically dismissed as paranormal. This theoretical bridge does not seek to prove the existence of paranormal phenomena but rather to expand the scope of scientific inquiry into areas where classical physics fails to provide answers, potentially leading to a deeper understanding of the universe's fundamental workings.

Hypothetical Mechanisms: Quantum-Level Disturbances Triggering Temporal Anomalies

The notion of quantum retrocausality opens intriguing possibilities for explaining phenomena that seem to violate the conventional temporal order. This section explores hypothetical mechanisms by which small-scale quantum events might scale up to affect larger systems, potentially resulting in what are perceived as paranormal effects.

Quantum Superposition and Decoherence in Macroscopic Systems: Quantum superposition allows particles to exist in multiple states simultaneously until an observation collapses the state. Theoretically, if similar superpositions could occur in larger systems (macroscopic superposition), and if decoherence (the process by which quantum systems interact with their environment in such a way that they lose their quantum behavior) could be controlled or delayed, it might allow past events (prior states) to influence future states in ways that appear retrocausal.

Entangled Systems in Large-scale Structures: If quantum entanglement could exist in large-scale systems, a change in one part of the system could instantaneously affect another, regardless of the distance. Such non-local connections could, under specific conditions, lead to temporal anomalies where cause and effect appear reversed or where future events influence the past.

Topological Quantum Computing: Utilizing properties of particles that are bound by specific topological phases (such as anyons in two-dimensional spaces), which are less sensitive to local disturbances, might allow for the preservation of quantum information over time and space. This could theoretically create conditions where temporal ordering is non-standard, and effects might precede causes.

Environmental Factors Influencing Paranormal Retrocausal Effects

Certain environmental conditions might enhance the likelihood or visibility of quantum retrocausal phenomena on a macroscopic scale:

Geophysical Anomalies: Areas with unusual geophysical properties, such as magnetic anomalies or gravitational irregularities, might influence the coherence of quantum states in larger systems, possibly amplifying quantum behaviors like entanglement or superposition.

Quantum Coherence in Biological Systems: Environments that promote or sustain quantum coherence in biological systems might be more susceptible to experiencing retrocausal phenomena. For instance, the human brain could be a site for such occurrences, particularly in neurological structures that might support quantum processing.

High-Energy Cosmic Events: Exposure to high-energy particles from cosmic events might momentarily create conditions that allow for quantum effects to scale up, potentially linking these events with temporal anomalies or so-called paranormal occurrences.

Psychological Factors Making Individuals More Susceptible

The human factor also plays a crucial role in the perception and potential interaction with retrocausal phenomena:

Perceptual Sensitivity to Quantum Information: Some individuals might have a heightened sensitivity to quantum information processing, perhaps due to unique neurological configurations or conditions. This could make them more likely to experience or report retrocausal paranormal phenomena.

Psychological Expectation and Observation Effects: The observer effect in quantum mechanics suggests that the act of observing can alter the state of a quantum system. Similarly, individuals who believe in or anticipate paranormal phenomena might unconsciously influence their perceptions or even the environment in subtle, quantum-related ways.

Cognitive and Emotional States: Emotional and cognitive states might influence how individuals interact with or respond to their environment, potentially affecting or being affected by underlying quantum processes. For instance, extreme stress or trauma might alter an individual's temporal perception, making them more receptive to anomalies.

While purely speculative and theoretical at this stage, exploring these mechanisms and factors provides a framework for investigating how quantum retrocausal effects could manifest as paranormal phenomena. Such explorations not only challenge our understanding of reality but also encourage interdisciplinary research that spans quantum physics, environmental science, and cognitive psychology. This integrative approach could yield new insights into the fabric of reality and our interaction with it.

Experimental Design for Testing Retrocausal Effects in Controlled Environments

Introduction

To empirically investigate the possibility of retrocausal effects manifesting in macroscopic systems, and potentially explain paranormal phenomena, a series of controlled experiments must be designed. These experiments should aim to isolate and detect temporal anomalies that may indicate retrocausal influence. Here, we propose a methodological framework that includes the setup, execution, and analysis phases of such experimental trials.

Experiment Setup

Selection of Experimental Site: Choose locations based on historical reports of paranormal activity or controlled laboratory environments where conditions can be rigorously managed. Geophysical and environmental factors should be documented.

Instrumentation:

Quantum Sensors: Utilize devices capable of detecting quantum coherence and entanglement at macroscopic scales.

Environmental Sensors: Deploy sensors to measure electromagnetic fields, ionizing radiation levels, and gravitational anomalies.

Neurological Equipment: For experiments involving subjects, use EEG or fMRI to monitor brain activity that might correspond to perceived paranormal experiences.

Control and Test Groups:

Establish control groups subjected to normal conditions without any engineered quantum disturbances.

Test groups should be exposed to environments where quantum effects (like entanglement or coherence) are artificially enhanced or manipulated.

Temporal Manipulation Devices: If feasible, use experimental setups from quantum computing research such as quantum dots, trapped ions, or photonic circuits to attempt the creation of conditions that might allow for macroscopic quantum effects.

Execution of Experiments

Stimulus-Response Trials: Conduct trials where potential retrocausal triggers are introduced to see if they produce a measurable effect before their actual implementation (time-reversed causality).

Double-Blind Methodology: Ensure that neither the subjects nor the experiment administrators know the timing or nature of the experimental conditions to eliminate bias.

Repetitive Testing: Each experimental setup should be repeated multiple times to ensure reliability and reproducibility of results.

Data Collection and Analysis

Data Acquisition:

Collect continuous data from quantum, environmental, and neurological sensors.

Document any reported experiences or anomalies during the experimental trials.

Statistical Analysis:

Time-Series Analysis: Evaluate the data for any patterns or anomalies that precede their causes. Techniques such as Granger causality tests could be employed to assess the directionality of relationships between variables.

Anomaly Detection: Use statistical methods to identify data points or sets that deviate significantly from expected patterns. This includes cluster analysis and regression techniques tailored to detect outliers.

Quantum State Correlation: Analyze correlations between quantum states in the test and control groups to identify non-local connections or entangled states that defy classical explanations.

Pattern Recognition: Employ machine learning algorithms to sift through large datasets to find non-obvious patterns that might suggest retrocausal effects. Neural networks and deep learning models could be particularly useful in identifying complex patterns across multi-dimensional data.

The experimental design outlined aims to bridge the gap between quantum mechanics and macroscopic phenomena, providing a structured approach to testing the possibility of retrocausal effects. By employing rigorous scientific methods and advanced statistical analysis, these experiments could potentially validate or refute the presence of such effects in controlled environments, contributing significantly to our understanding of both quantum mechanics and paranormal phenomena.

Reshaping Our Understanding of Time and Causality

The confirmation of retrocausal phenomena could lead to a profound shift in our understanding of time and causality, fundamentally altering the foundations of physics:

Revision of Temporal Assumptions: Traditionally, time is assumed to flow in one direction—from past to future. Retrocausality challenges this assumption, suggesting that the future could influence the past, thereby necessitating a reevaluation of temporal linearity in physical theories.

Unified Framework for Quantum and Relativistic Theories: Incorporating retrocausality into physics could help bridge some of the longstanding gaps between quantum mechanics and general relativity. A model that integrates time-nonlinear phenomena might offer new insights into the unified nature of the universe, possibly influencing theories about black holes, the beginning of the universe, and the unification of forces.

Implications for Quantum Computing and Information: The acceptance of retrocausal connections could enhance our ability to develop more advanced quantum computing systems, potentially leading to breakthroughs in handling non-locality and entanglement, key aspects of quantum information processing.

Impact on the Credibility and Scientific Investigation of Paranormal Phenomena

Confirming retrocausal effects could also significantly impact the field of paranormal research, often regarded with skepticism in the scientific community:

Legitimization of Paranormal Phenomena: If retrocausality were experimentally confirmed, it could provide a scientific basis for some paranormal experiences such as precognition or psychic phenomena, which are often dismissed due to their apparent violation of causality.

New Methodological Approaches: Paranormal research could adopt more rigorous scientific methodologies, integrating technologies and theoretical frameworks from quantum physics to investigate unexplained phenomena. This could lead to a more structured and credible approach to studying these occurrences.

Interdisciplinary Research Opportunities: A new understanding of retrocausality could foster collaboration across physics, psychology, neuroscience, and environmental science to explore how quantum phenomena might manifest in human perception and physical environments.

Reevaluation of Historical Data: With a new framework for understanding time and causality, researchers might revisit historical paranormal claims and data with a fresh perspective, applying retrocausal theories to analyze old mysteries or unexplained events.

Broader Societal and Philosophical Implications

The confirmation of retrocausality would also have broader implications beyond science:

Philosophical and Ethical Considerations: The notion that the future can influence the past could lead to new philosophical debates about free will, fate, and responsibility. Ethical implications, particularly in terms of decision-making and moral responsibility, would need careful consideration.

Cultural Impact: Different cultures might interpret retrocausal phenomena through the lens of spiritual or religious beliefs, potentially altering societal views on life, death, and the nature of reality.

Practical Applications and Technology: In technology, industries could explore new types of communication systems or predictive models based on retrocausal signals, potentially leading to innovations in fields like artificial intelligence, telecommunications, and predictive analytics.

The potential confirmation of retrocausal phenomena represents a frontier in both physics and paranormal research, promising not only to advance our understanding of the universe but also to challenge and expand the boundaries of what is considered scientifically possible. This would necessitate a comprehensive revision of many of the foundational principles of science, while also providing a new paradigm within which to view, and possibly validate, phenomena currently categorized as paranormal.

Conclusion

This paper does not claim definitive proof linking retrocausality with paranormal phenomena but suggests a plausible theoretical framework that warrants further investigation. By extending the boundaries of conventional physics into the realm of the paranormal, we invite a reevaluation of phenomena that may not merely be anomalies but windows into a more complex understanding of reality.

Future Work

Detailed planning for longitudinal studies to observe the proposed effects over extended periods.

Development of more sophisticated models to better understand the interface between quantum mechanics and everyday experiences of time and causality.

By proposing this framework, the paper encourages an interdisciplinary approach to studying phenomena that cross the boundaries between established scientific disciplines and areas typically relegated to the fringes of serious academic study.

[eggwhiteswithspinach]

👏 Retrocausality

[hidarisblog]

[coldcanyon]

[felixcosm]

You guys should read Love in the Time of Iterations and Retrocausal Pockets, I'm so serious.

Have you ever wondered what it would be like if Michael and Mike did get together? Or maybe you felt like WOE.BEGONE wasn't angsty enough and you wanted more reasons to REALLY cry over the characters? Or you just wanted to see Mike and Michael be a cute, fucked up domestic couple that has a lot of hot sex?

You should read IRP, it's meticulousy researched and often feels like reading bonus episodes from W.BG (I've often accidently called the chapters "episodes" in my reviews)

Plus it has actually made me cry a few times. Ty is wonderfully written and he's infuriating, awful and there's this really fucked up Compound Mikey that's unlike any Compound Mikey you've ever seen.

Really. Go read it. You'll be thinking about it for days

[ketavinsky]

what was the impetus for the creation of ofluxe? did day and dusk always have children, drafting wise

hey anon! sorry for the late reply- i was going to wait until i had more art of Hymn to post here, but i dont, and ive been working on weird kids lately, so instead here's some art i commissioned of the family as i answer this question

pictured: dusk eats Her own heart in the center as Her husband, day, looms over Her shoulder; at the border is the exquisite distillation, upright, and Hys 'twin' the chimera, inverted. (art by wuermelein who was so awesome to commission, def recommend)

first off, ofluxe was the original name for the character- the title 'the exquisite distillation' is intended to feel sort of dehumanising and overtly grandiose. in another kind of story, where ofluxe was never built up into the villain hy currently is, hys name would still be ofluxe.

there have been heaps and heaps of drafts to get the exquisite distillation where hy is now as a character. the primary motivation was to have a character who represents, and is exalted as, the pinnacle of what the rules of hys story allows, a character that by design fills the narrative if not defining it entirely, who pushes against the boundaries of possibility; against the universe itself. a universe is something largely considered limitless, constantly-expanding, but in the context of a story, is of course regimented by lore and plot and how these interact with each other to produce conflict. i know that i'm just talking out of my ass here about what a story is, but seeing as im aiming for the wider pentanity meta to be a story about stories, im gonna parrot all of it anyways. in hys earliest iterations, the exquisite distillation was on the way to fully omniscient, more of a weather god than an automaton gold giant; i called hymn the director of tragedies, the character who uses hys unique awareness of the universe he occupies and exemplifies to simultaneously embody entirely and strain against the confines he's written into. hy was from draft one supposed to be something of a tragic character, a hidden final boss who learns from every world-ending threat before hymn, an entropic bastard almighty who can do as hy wants with reality but is ultimately undone by the ability to look directly upon hymnself and demarcate every single aspect of hymnself, and its flaw, and how the knowledge of this flaw does nothing to resolve the hurt of it. the earliest iteration, ofluxe, was way more comical, but also ultimately betrayed by a parental figure- this was something i really wanted to keep, and as hy changed as a character i became increasingly attached to hymn as this perfect, gorgeous thing, the alchemical magnum opus who represents the apex of what god and man are capable of, who is perhaps the most human due to hys many flaws and who becomes inhumanly destructive with each aborted attempt at addressing any of these flaws.

as my draft developed, i realise that there was no way hy could be anyone but day's child, due to their clear thematic parallels- the story im writing was always going to be one that endlessly repeats itself in all sorts of directions, and day and the exquisite distillation both fall victim to this horror of repetition, this deep fear that the past and future influence each other in equal amount and what is done in the present barely makes a blemish in this cycle. in this way, i guess the main impetus for the creation of ofluxe is my fascination with how rules and boundaries are defined in stories, especially those that deal with high-power concepts; the main impetus for the creation of the exquisite distillation is despair.

i don't post much of my writing here, and im trying to get back into posting it on instagram, but if the exquisite distillation does anything, hy despairs. hy occupies a part of the story, the universe, where all the tools are present for hymn to do better than his predecessors, and hy embodies all this universe's strengths and potential, and hy can do nothing but despair. im aware that this sends a Very Particular Message about my work and what im trying to achieve with it, but ofluxe, the exquisite distillation, the gold giant or porcelain gargoyle or whatever else i call hymn- hy is so dear to me for the reason that he embodies a core struggle i have been challenged by my whole life, and for me to write a happier ending for hymn, a happier story, i'll have to really undergo some major character growth. i'd like to, and i feel like hy deserves it -if not hymn, then certainly the parts of the world hy devastates- but im not there yet and im not certain when i will be. for this reason, i do worry a lot about when or if ill ever be able to publish the bulk of my work, especially as the exquisite distillation appears quite early.

as for did day and dusk always have children- no, certainly not. in my earlier concepts, day was a lot more childish. more ageless as in zany spirit, less ancient. parts of His old concept were recycled into the exquisite distillation and minuet; others still remain to be recycled into other characters. dusk had millions of children, whole races of monstrous behemoths, whole ecosystems of them. i definitely suffered from that thing a lot of new pantheon creators do when its like "ahh yes... my pantheon.... the earth one, the water one, the uhhh.... the war one... the woman one (mother) and the woman one (pure and innocent)" and i didnt really add anything to this or do anything interesting with it or even incorporate any of my own personal thoughts regarding motherhood, paternity, etc or even, like, what i consider god to be, so it was all kind of questionable as hell and very frustrating to build.

at the moment im still reworking parts of dusk, and how She manifests throughout the story but recently ive really been trying to be more honest with myself, and be more honest through my work, so dusk has changed a lot. originally i never envisioned for Her to have children She was particularly close to or coddled or 'mothered' in any sense of the word -it just didnt really fit Her character at all- but i came to realise the reasons why i didnt want Her to have this relationship dynamic were precisely the reasons she needed to. there's a version of the story, in-text, as time twists and slips and knots through itself where the exquisite distillation is nothing but a weapon to Her, and the creation of hys twin was an error, and then there are endless permutations where one of these variables taken to be true simply is not the case. i came to realise that i wanted dusk's relationship with the exquisite distillation to foil dawn's relationship with minuet, and seeing as sister turns against brother and child against parent later on, i think that these recent developments are more befitting of my wider messages touching on family, especially during the sydney arc (which i still dont know whether to write as a comic, a short story, or a book. rargh)

ultimately, day needs to have children here in this shitshow so the wretched cycle He's trapped in can be inherited by the undeserving, and dusk needs to have children to highlight what happens when the absolute and inevitable and incapable of ever erring are presented with the circumstances for wrongdoing. they're both characters who need to be humbled, desperately.

answer me this, is there anything as humbling as a child?

[kidflashimpulse]

WOWOWOWOW HOW AND WHY AND HUH WHAT IS GOING ON IN YOUR NEW FIC

(You can take a gamble at who this rambler is🤭)

Owen in Bart's timeline?? How is that even possible?? Did it have to do with Bart's unstatiable energy??

I have so many questions like what the holy hell

And JAY oh my GOD don't even get me started on that how DARE you annihalate my heart like that😭😭 The guilt and the depression and anxiety and paranoia and the FAMILY THERAPY?!?!? Our guy needs so much comfort (same with Bart holy hell, why did Ed leave Bart needs him!! (Y'know, emotionally and very obviously mentioned by Bart himself physically LMAO))

I feel so bad for Jay and Bart, I can only imagine the guilt on both sides (Jay when Bart was lost, Bart now that he's back) and the way it impacted everything around them as well

I really hope things will work out again between them and Owen better not screw things up

honestly idk wats going on there half the time either besides ?????!!!!!!!!!! i think it summarises it pretty accurately

jk but omg welcome back bestie 😘

yeah it warrants those “jay and bart need a hug” type tags and tbh we also need “they need to hug eachother” whilst we r at it 😭

the bart call out 😭 i’m in tears

ed out there doing life saving work but fr he’s gotta get his priorities straight, or maybe that’s where the problem lies 😂

bart’s insatiable energy is symbolic !! i WISH i could comic logic it into an actually physical explanation for owens return but no the science in that fic is somewhat in line with what we know from the series BUT i love how u pointed it out! because it was fully intended to be symbolic, like some kind of cosmic connection that he has, as tbh bart’s background kind of gives him that almost deity like quality low-key yes no idk that makes him going through it like that signal like an omen that shit is about to go down lol

omg say it! say it @ owen lol u GET it! i mean it’s hard out there so u know him being a disaster (too) is understandable but this is bart we r talking about so

thank u so much for sharing thoughts with us as always 🙏❤️ so incredibly interesting to read !! and thank u for reading <33

[michael-afton-clean]

whitch mom?

hey guys. its me. Nigel. back at it again at Krispy Kreme!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! just fucking kidding. im your mum('s house).

today killed davey bones more like baby domes. cause his fuckign heads small. hi tulzcha btw. overwatch soon?

[rearranging-deck-chairs]

that thing she does when shes like "it's like cars. wait you dont have cars. like horses then" the doctor should do that more often but with things that are alien to the modern day viewer. making comparisons to things from 2078 and getting blank stares and going "wait. too early. uhhhh" and then making a modern comparison. or then making a comparison thats a couple of years out of date like first they make a reference to something 2078 and ruby goes "what" and then they go "i mean ipod" and ruby goes "what" and they go "oh forget it this is taking more time than if i just described it"

[dandelionjack]

just watched tenet. a masterclass in bad dialogue and flat characterisation. you know what maybe sometimes having to google ‘movie explained’ isn’t shameful and embarrassing, sometimes the film is just so convoluted that it requires multiple viewings, which the quality of this silly action flick simply does not warrant. irritated

[novelty-gift-ideas]

eightyAD - Retrocausal