#Putin Leftist

[evilelitest2]

Your welcome, honestly If I had gotten so many takes wrong about the Ukrainian war as you had, I would just...stop having takes. Like there you are in January saying Russia isn't going to invade

Gee ...I wonder if any body has done any research on Russian losses?

Russia very well could have a new army by next year, but it isn't going to be a good army. That is how reserves work

So your sources include...The moscow Times...The Grey Zone...Russia today...The South China Morning Post...yeah you know what, I am starting to see why you in Janurary 2022 said there was no way Russia could ever possibly invade if that is where you getting from literally state sponsored autocracies. Hey look up what those groups have to say about trans people sometime.

So you said that Ukraine committed the last of its reserves, but that article you linked doesn't say that, just that they committed there elite 82nd brigade, maybe read your sources friend

So basically, Ukraine in the last few days made a few major gains Like again, you've been wrong so many times before, but it really takes the cake that literally days after writing this, something else happens. And its not that you are stupid necessarily, its that you are only reading the most pro Russian sources that when something else happens, you don't see it coming.

"Russia strategically withdrew to prepared positions" yeah only after they utterly failed to seize the whole country including the capital. Russia rushed the invasion, didn't send nearly enough people in, and was plagued by logistical and administrative incompetence, which is why there are so many dead russian generals. Had Russia focused there attack only on the East, they might have won by now, but by going for Kyiv, they lost a ton of troops needlessly.

"I don't think you understand Russia's intentions or goals in 2022 or 2023" dude you said Russia wasn't going to invade in January of 2022, you clearly aren't in touch with the Russian motives

"Take there gains n Kharkiv" Ukraine is wining, just slowly. Russia has routed (this time) so they are taking bits and pieces of territory.

Moon of Alabama...that is your source.......seriously?

You citd an ABC source but again I don't think you read it, Ukraine is suffering heavy losses, but they have not (yet) reached the point of being unable to wage the war...if they had, they wouldn't have seized 30 miles in the last few days. LIke this quote is from the ABC article you linked "Despite their injuries sustained during their failed mission two weeks ago, they argued that the Ukrainian counteroffensive is being well-executed and heavy casualties in a major military offensive of this nature, against entrenched Russian defenses, are to be expected." Are you reading these?

"If Nato were to get involved it would be an absolute embarrassment for them, for a bunch of reasons which I've already written about at length and which you're more than welcome to read. Maybe you might learn something." yeah, in the last 16 months you have said that Russia would never invade ukraine, that Zelensky would surrender within a few weeks of the invasion, that Russia had already won in February/march/April/May/June/July/August/September/October/November/December of 2022 and the war would be over in weeks.

Diplomatic solution? Putin made a speech where he said Ukraine as a state was a mistake by Lenin. Do you even know Russian?

Ok you link a foreign policy article but again i don't think you read it, the deal Putin asks for in that article is for Ukraine to cede territory, which provides no assurances against a future invasion. the article only speculates that Zelensky would be interested in a deal. Hey do you predict the Wagner Uprising at any point? oh wait, no you don't ,because you aren't actually reading sources on the ground.

You've been saying NATO and Ukraine are going to fall for months, and yet it keeps not happening. And in true "when Prophecy fails" style, you don't go "well I was wrong" you just...pretend you didn't say it and move on

Yes Russia is a worse Imperial power, especially in the context of Eastern Europe because they just invaded a former colony an unleashed the bloodiest war since the Second Congo War. The thing that America did to "provoke" Russia was...allow the baltic states to democratically join NATO. Oh no, Russia isn't allowed to cosplay as the Tsar again, how tragic.

"Yeah", actually, Brendanicus is right. The leaders of the US are unique in how stupid and sadistic they are. Even if everything that Putin was ever accused of was true, there's still no comparison when it comes to the casualties of his regime and the US's bodycount. There's no possible way to deny that." Oh I touched a nerve here. Maybe a bit touchy about the fact that you actually know very little about Eastern Europeon history. But yeah, the US leaders aren't uniquely sadistic, the world is more complicated than "America bad" you fool

"you haven't offered any refutations of anything I've written or posted" I mean Russia actually did enter Ukraine in February 2022 which you said wouldn't happen so that is a pretty good refutation. here lets do this, tell me exactly when Ukraine is going to lose and NATO will collapse? Can you give a specific month by which the war will be over? Cause you've been moving the goal posts for 16 months now.

you know russia was...allied with the US...during the War on Terror...right? Like please tell me you know that

"We've heard all this shit before about how whoever the US wants to go to war with is Uniquely and Exceptionally Evil and Needs To Be Stopped, and by and large it all turns out to be horseshit" so your solution is...to believe the Russian version of this" Ukraine is the Uniquely and Exceptionally Evil and needs to be stopped". Like do you think that the US invented the idea of doing imperialism under false pretense, like does the US have a copyright on that? Cause other colonial powers can do the same thing .

"Any civilians supposedly killed" you know, there are like human rights organizations who look into this stuff? organization who roundly condemned the US in Afghanistan and Iraq who are also condemning russia. you sound exaclty like those Right wing fucks who deny American war crimes in the middle east. Probably because they keep agreeing with you, half of your talking points are said by Tucker Fucking Carlson

"Entire conflict was caused by the desire and designs of the US" Again, Half a million people occupying Kyiv isn't a coup, its a protest, unless you think the February revolutions was a coup

Joseph's Staln's biggst accomplishment was getting a lot of right wing authorities to realize they could get leftists on board with there policy if they call it anti imperialism.

Can't wait until six months from when your entire view of the war is proven wrong again. Tell me something, if Russia does lose, Ukraine gets it all back, are you going to pause and say that you were wrong, or just move on again like your normally do?

I just can't get over the hypocrisy "Of course Russia did nothing wrong, Russian and Chinese State run media told me too" Is like thos reactionaries who always watch fox, just with a find/replace not that much because Fox News is taking your side in the conflict

[kelluinox]

Bitches be like "You're on the wrong side of history!" and then receive personal thank yous from Khamenei and Al Qaeda

[sonyaheaneyauthor]

[vintageseawitch]

this is what i think of when third party voters go around acting morally superior because they don't want to get their hands dirty like the rest of us. they're toddlers having temper tantrums because instead of using the system in a way that could benefit them in the long term like the extremist Republicans have been doing for decades, third party voters refuse to participate in local civics & then claim the entire country is already fascist. they're so cute in their naivety if they think the US can't get any worse.

what the fuck do you think will happen if you try to protest against a government with a military as massive, lethal, & expensive as ours. who do you think will be sacrificed first? oh what's that? crickets? thought so. i'm a white woman but i will absolutely use my voice to point out leftists can be racist as fuck & the anti-blackness in your spaces can be absolutely fucking wild. not everyone leftist is white, but many that are can be pretty problematic.

if you think i'm selfish then fine. if you state that you would gladly exchange my life for a Palestinian like one of you said in a comment to me a few weeks ago then fine. i'm out here fighting to make sure the people who live here in this country don't experience our own Holocaust.

if you have a problem with people wanting to fight this while claiming you're anti-genocide, you're a fucking liar & a hypocrite. you won't know what the fuck to do in a true fascist country. i don't doubt there are pockets of fascism already existing here but you thinking it's already the worst it can be is as infuriating as people who think the government is creating their massive hurricanes using weather machines. you sound just as childish & delusional. you already sound like children because you will never take responsibility for your choices if it ends up helping him win.

jill stein's campaign is a sham. she is deliberately running as a spoiler. she's a wealthy white woman who lives in a mostly white affluent neighborhood. she's going around lecturing black people about white supremacy. she is getting funds from Republicans as well as help from trump's lawyers. Lockheed Martin has given her money. she's involved in shady as fuck index funds for companies that harm the environment. she only started talking about Gaza during this election cycle to hit you in the feelings so she can bank on it. she made a whole stink about needing a recount, raised a bunch of money for that, & then that money disappeared who knows where. do you all hear this? do you care? no, you're just like maga with their orange Jesus. you don't give a FUCK about stein's red flags because she's "different."

if Harris loses & you blame anyone but yourselves, you're cowardly traitors who threw us regular Americans to the wolves because of your precious fucking principles. history has shown time & time again that protest voting typically allows something worse to take control. it's hardly ever beneficial to the people. you're vile. you don't want to make this world a better place by allowing so many near you to suffer & die. if both sides are the same then please tell me you're okay with another trump presidency. or just shut the fuck up.

i look forward to more potentially heartwarming messages saying that my life doesn't mean shit from people who allegedly are against the death penalty & are pro-human rights 🥰

please vote, don't stop talking about Project 2025, etc. i hope enough of us vote in a way that these pathetic third party voters don't gain any kind of traction. at this point i'm just angry at their hypocrisy when they don't even listen to other protestors who live here & are begging them to not vote third party. i refuse to listen to y'all not take responsibility for your part. Project 2025 will hurt us all but apparently you're okay with that or you think it's already here. smooth brain takes all around. anyways good luck & stay safe to anyone who votes blue 💙

[weemietime]

Ok so reading through some posts from some people and I've noticed a lumping in of anti-zionists and anti-semites into the same camp or framing it as only antisemites are in that camp.

which I this is unneeded like I'm blind obviously a large number of people are using anti-zionism a cover for their anti-semitic beliefs but I don't think that bad actors using this wave of criticism for Israel as a opportunity to say and doing horrifically anti-semitic thing.

just like people using this new wave of criticism toward Hamas and the various groups fighting against the IDF as a cover for their Islamophobic and anti Palestinian and anti Arab racism should not be held as the only voice in the Zionist camp.

this isn't some sort of "Hey actually all those anti semitic people are really tiny and are just a very loud minority" again like I said, I'm not blind I can see that they aren't and and they probably aren't going anywhere either but, also saying that the only way someone could find what Israel is doing is if their anti semite just wrong, like yeah Israel is often held to a higher standard for being a Jewish nation and for looking like a western (white looking) nation which is obviously wrong.

if this is anyway anti-semitic idk sorry I guess, also read that pinned post thing and yes Russia is committing a genocide and yes they should be booted from the UNSC

So I don't read this as being antisemitic in and of itself, under the assumption you're engaging in good faith. There are ways to be antizionist that aren't antisemitic, but the vast majority of uneducated people with whom I have a problem with saying "I'm not antisemitic, just antizionist" is that in the next sentence they'll be demanding Israelis must go back to Poland or else be complicit in genocide.

Really, it's stuff like that which I focus on. People just asking questions or offering legitimate criticism aren't being antisemitic. I spend a lot of my time criticizing Israel for shit as well. A woman I really respect used to work at the military prison and always said, "people think you should be hard on your enemies when they do wrong. No, we should be harder on our friends." and I agree with that.

Is it fair? To always have to be the better person and always be the peacemaker and always do the right thing while people give our enemies a free pass to literally kill us openly in the streets? Nope, it's not fair. But we knew this when we accepted the Torah at Sinai. Life as a Jewish person isn't fair, and our obligations are many and often painful. Is it just, though? I'd say yes. We must continue to try and extend our hand to our enemies.

And with regards to the Russia genocide question there's actually a good reason why I use this as an example. 1) let's say we actually put Russia and Israel on the same playing ground. Israel just attacked Gaza for no reason to annex a bunch of land because Palestinians are really Jews and Israel is entitled to Gaza.

Even if we accept this at face value, the way that people talk about Israel and Jews is fundamentally different than the way people talk about Russia and Russians. It's the double standard that makes it antisemitism, not the actions people are saying we've done.

Even if Israel was 100% unequivocally the villain, which I don't believe is true because quite frankly they weren't the belligerents and never have been, it would still be a double standard. Because the fact of the matter is, people didn't accuse Russia of genocide and people didn't call for Putin to be ejected. People didn't protest en masse and shut down universities and refuse to be friends with Russians.

And 2) In fact people spout actual Russia propaganda and sign off with "shout out to Joseph Stalin" out one side their mouth while the other says "Genocide is bad." Stalin is responsible for killing at least 9 million people, so it's not killing they have a problem with.

[tanadrin]

Looks like the SPD may have squeaked it out in Brandenburg, which is good news--interestingly, their polling numbers went way up right before the election, which makes me wonder (and certainly hope) that their comparatively dismal state in other polls is at least partly an artifact of expressive responses or non-response bias ultimately counteracted by voters coming home, at least to oppose the AfD. The Greens and Die Linke got totally wiped out, though. Seems increasingly clear that the BSW is just gonna cannibalize Die Linke until there's nothing left of them.

But does mean that the Landtag is now precisely a 50/50 split between centrist parties (SPD, CDU) and two different flavors of complete asshole (BSW, AfD). Kind of awkward.

[huggingtentacles]

I wish I had an older socialist lady who knows everything about politics who I could ask questions about stuff. I don't post about politics much despite there being a fucking war in my country. That's because I feel really lost and inadequate when it comes to expressing my worldview.

I have my general principles but it's hard to apply them in writing.

[hussyknee]

Not so friendly reminder that Tankies are people who deny not only the genocides of Russia but also Vietnam and China (including the Uyghurs), and are apologists for the North Korean regime. They push Russian propaganda of "colour revolutions" every time a Global South country rises up against a totalitarian government because they believe totalitarianism is merely anti-communist agenda; deriding, dismissing and dehumanizing the liberation movements of our countries that come at great human cost. They're not anti-imperialists or anti-colonial; their chief issue with the imperial core is that it's not their ideology seated at the heart of it. They only care about Global South lives when it serves their ideology, and have no genuine concern or curiosity about the ground realities or agency of the communities impacted by imperialism and colonialism.

I also want you to understand that every major power player involved in this conflict is a genocidal fascist. Hamas, Hezbollah and Houthis that are fighting Israel are funded by the theocratic Iranian regime headed by Ebrahim Raisi (begging you to remember the hundreds of Iranian girls and women killed for protesting it). Iran is also an ally of the notorious Bashar Al-Assad's regime in Syria, responsible for the genocide and displacement of millions of his own people while actively funding the Islamic State he wages war against. Both Assad and Raisi are allies of Putin, who is currently trying to colonize and genocide Ukraine and is terrorising Poland, Hungary, Georgia, Estonia, Latvia etc. However, Iran and Putin (half-heartedly) are also allies of the Armenians who are being genocided by Azerbaijan. Azerbaijan is supported by the US, but also Erdogan in Turkey, infamous dictator that hates the European Union and is a close pal of Putin. Meanwhile the US's best friends in the Middle East is Israel, which hates Arabs, and Saudi Arabia, who doesn't recognise Israel as a country but is hated by most of the MENA and is currently in a Cold War with Iran.

*yanks y'all by the shirt and shouts in your face* THERE ARE NO GOOD GUYS HERE, DO YOU UNDERSTAND?? ONLY INNOCENT CIVILIANS CAUGHT IN A SPIDER WEB OF GREEDY, DESPOTIC, GENOCIDAL, FASCIST CUNTS. THERE IS NO POINT TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHICH ONE IS THE BIGGEST THREAT TO GLOBAL DEMOCRACY BECAUSE ALL THE FALL OF ONE DOES IS CREATE A POWER VACCUUM THAT WILL IMMEDIATELY BE FILLED BY THE NEXT BULLY.

These governments can only be toppled from within by their own people once external threats like war with their neighbours are eased, because militaries with nothing to fight are economic black holes that try to eat itself, and it's this economic stress that act as catalysts for coalition building and civilian revolt. Military losses weaken imperialists' coercive power and legitimacy over their own people, so the best thing you can do to help them agitate for change is preventing imperialist expansions from claiming any more victims.

[yellow-yarrow]

i fucking hate hungarian politics, who am i supposed to vote for, the centrist liberal party, the other centrist liberal party, or the coalition of the social democrats and center-right party that used to be full of nazis (what a joke)

[gayjaytodd]

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[kelluinox]

Хочу увидеть скольким из вас платит Путин.

[ardentperfidy]

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[vintageseawitch]

HEY CHECK IT OUT

what the fuck.

if you're out of the loop, there's been a TON of activity in political tiktok, specifically in the leftist space. an obvious talkie has been attempting to spread the lie that they were paid $15,000 by the DNC (which turns out to be a lie; it was $10,000 from a third party group called Vocal so the content creator can make content about Project 2025) & then made the claim that any content creator speaking well about Democrats were all getting paid to do so, which was also a lie & even if it wasn't, who cares? people put in a ton of work & don't often get paid enough.

the next big issue: this tankie, who is a white woman that lives in California, made an outrageous claim that Angela Davis wasn't a true member of the Black Panthers & now the explosive & entirely valid conversations about racism & white supremacy exist even in leftist spaces are taking that area by storm.

black women have been talking about it quite a bit & by now they're annoyed because it sounds like they're defending Kamala Harris even though they may not like her or her policies even if they may be voting for her anyways or not.

the input & knowledge from black women is important & we all need to listen. the fact is that as white people exist, we're living in a system founded on & upheld by white supremacy & what's worse is in leftist spaces, because people believe they're the ultimate ally, they don't need to put in anymore work.

but then things get sticky. things get uncomfortable. they have to be white saviors & once again, black & indigenous folks living here will pay the price.

certain leftists can claim they're anti-genocide as much as they wish but they're only partially against a specific one going on. i don't blame them for caring because everyone should give a damn about people going through something so horrific. that said, whatever horrors have been going on to our fellow man here don't seem to bother them as much. there may be some compassion here & there but nowhere near the level of devotion to people across an ocean from us.

then you get the shit in the above screenshot. a chaos agent. a putin puppet, who is stanned by the likes of Kshama Sawant, an accelerstionist as far as i can tell as well as Hassan Abdel Salam, both of whom have admitted they know they can't win but they want Harris to lose ignoring the fact that trump wants to deport them & others like them no matter how long they may have lived here. you get jill stein, someone who can immediately call netanyahu & Biden war criminals but when pressed about her precious putin suddenly she has a problem with "name calling" (the KGB should have trained her better). she's received money from Republicans for her campaign. she's getting help from trump lawyers. trump personally thanked her by name in a speech earlier this year because even he knows she's another tool for him.

it's wild how green party voters call those voting for Harris "blue maga" but they themselves are behaving more like original maga than they will care to admit let alone see. i'm not saying that there aren't those who think Harris is perfect, but i hardly see such blind devotion the way i see people have for trump & stein. both are cult leaders. they say things their followers want to hear.

stein's response?

oh no you don't. this was from 2016:

she's full of it. a KKK leader felt safe enough to endorse her & i'm now seeing her cult followers defending her, such as believing that he was paid by Democrats to do this & that we're apparently celebrating Dick Cheney's endorsement (i saw one comment saying people think Cheney is "brat" lmao) even though there had been zero celebrating & mostly trepidation & astonishment. he's clearly not voting for Harris because he has a change of heart; even if it's for selfish reasons, he & a bunch of other old Republicans see the danger that trump possesses. they're not agreeing with policies from Harris because she's "far right" (a bullshit claim anyways); they're agreeing that any extremist takeover is NOT GOOD. leftists refuse to see this perspective.

so like i mentioned earlier, it's white supremacy. jill stein has taken a once noble party & bastardized it to the point that white supremacists & antisemites feel safe in her space (i'm not saying that being pro-Palestine means you're an antisemite. i'm pointing out that Duke is also an antisemite). it's disgusting & disturbing. she's a wealthy white woman who won't be harmed by Project 2025. she wants trump to win & she & her rabid followers are working to make that happen.

third party voters, you aren't safe. you are accelerstionists to me now regardless of reason. your voting this way or not voting at all isn't brave or impressive, it's selfish, a surrender, cowardly. you don't want to get your hands dirty but when things go to shit you will refuse to take any responsibility for your part in it. the revolution you want so badly is nothing more than your version of the Rapture & the only revolution that will be happening is a fascist one because Republicans know how to play a long game to get real results unlike you leftists. they love that your tunnel vision self-righteousness makes you stupid & willing to throw your fellow vulnerable Americans under the bus so you get to feel morally superior.

you're monstrous. i'm not bothering to try to beg or play nice with you lot since you're no better than trump's maga. a former KKK leader endorsed your precious savior & nothing you say will change that. to make excuses is to make your space safe for white supremacy. you're unsafe.

[tanadrin]

re: the motivated Pyrrhonian skepticism of anti-Ukraine leftism: it's very strange to me to characterize what I learn about the conflict as coming through "American media". I remember the opening of the war. Putin said "we won't invade." The Russian foreign ministry posted memes about how absurd Americans were to be afraid of invasion. The US kept saying "Russia is about to invade". Zelenskyy posted a "please don't invade" video. And Russia invaded! None of this information was mediated at all!

I agree with this and had a big long response about the fundamental error of Americans who solipsistically view everything through the lens of the Iraq War, but it hardly seems worth the effort. Opposing international support for Ukraine right now is just a really stupid position to hold. It makes sense only for extreme Russian nationalists, those who hold universally pacifistic views, and people who think "America bad" constitutes the entirety of being a leftist. Big states invading small states is bad, states being invaded have a right to defend themselves, and the right to solicit aid, and there's no coherent argument in favor of cutting off aid to Ukraine except if you believe nonsense fairy tales about Russia's political leadership.

But these people wouldn't be happy if the US had refused to get involved--indeed, in that circumstance, I'm sure they'd be bellowing about how the evil amerikkkan government wasn't helping the Ukrainians fight off the invaders. The key political doctrine is that whatever the US does is bad, and it's up to us to figure out why after the fact.

[gay-jewish-bucky]

yall always are so quick to defend people who have actually done harmful things for years who deactivate and call people who have ever once critisized them all manner of things but will then turn around then gloat/brag about running people off website who actually did nothing but be a little annoying

[lobethemnemosurgeon]

[[ Well, this was the closest bombing eposode apart of that night when the missile destroyed a house on the next street to us. ]]