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prince-of-time-pt · 4 months ago
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Anyways, I would like to bring attention to the simple fact of: if you are having trouble classpecting yourself there is a 100% chance you are not a Prince, Thief, or Seer.
There IS a good chance you are a Page, Rogue, or Sylph.
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asyathefoileater · 9 months ago
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en8y · 4 months ago
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moonlighterclasseic: a gender relating to the combination of the homestuck classes thief and page; moonlighter!
confidantclasseic: a gender relating to the combination of the homestuck classes thief and knight; confidant!
adapterclasseic: a gender relating to the combination of the homestuck classes thief and witch; adapter!
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starlit1daydream · 6 months ago
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CLASSPECTING YELLOW GUY: DHMIS and the aspect of Light
Well, Yellow won the poll I put out a few days ago, and I have a very clear idea of what I see in him (fitting, given his title) so I'll detail my thoughts down below. This is all my personal analysis, you're free to come to any different conclusion, Classpecting is subjective even if some answers are clearer than others.
Yellow Guy. David, Doi, Manny, whatever debatably official/completely unofficial name you want to refer to him by, he's arguably the most important character to Don't Hug Me I'm Scared. Some may argue that Red Guy takes on the role of protagonist in the sense that he moves forward the narrative, but Yellow is the one it centres around. The whole show is, from an in-universe perspective, built around him.
This is going to go over mostly his role in the TV series, but include some aspects from the web series.
I think Yellow is a Page of Light.
He begins as a simpleton, struggling to grasp the most basic knowledge and very much filling the role of the team idiot. Despite this, however, he's always filled with this inherent curiosity and desire to learn things. He's the integral student, seeking to understand Light even though he so fundamentally lacks it.
This is, of course, a dead ringer for a Page of Light. Yellow is incredibly deficient with his Aspect, but nonetheless it's still an integral part of his life and how he leads it - like Tavros with Breath, Jake with Hope and Horuss with Void.
Naturally, the Page holds great potential to understand their Aspect and share it out and lead through it once they fully comprehend how to use it. Yellow's moment of understanding, that 'lightbulb' moment if you will is when his batteries are restored.
Suddenly, he's unlocked that potential with Light. It's... equivalent to God Tiering, let's say. But he's not a master. The Page has a far longer road to walk than that. He's merely beginning to comprehend Light, his relationship with it and his search for it. Not only that, he's willing to share it; he ends up schooling one of the teachers, after all!
Naturally, the world has it out for him. The Page, to put it bluntly, is the narrative joke. Hussie did not like any of the characters he made Pages. Tavros is portrayed as a softie, a crybaby and the punchline of some very ableist jokes by the fandom, Jake is called 'jape' or 'joke' more than his actual name by Vriska, and Horuss is a thinly veiled and very tasteless parody of therians and systems.
Naturally, Yellow follows this pattern of being fucked around by the narrative, just in a way that makes more sense in-universe beyond 'the author's being a dick'. Yellow is the narrative plaything. Knowledge is constantly distorted or withheld from him, he's surrounded by Void given to him by other people (Roy is most definitely a player of Void) and thus those brief sparks of Light, those points of data and precise moments that makes up the aspect, they're very few and far between.
The house's upper floors represent his quest for knowledge and relevance. He steps closer and closer to the truth, every higher floor is another tier of knowledge reached. He's growing to understand that Aspect, confronted with false understandings of Light and pushing them away. Like any Light-bound, he wants the truth, he wants that linear point of data that gives him clarity.
But, as the Page, the narrative plaything, Lesley and Roy's toy to torture and play with as they see fit... he doesn't get it. He has the answers held in front of his face, and then all of that development is reversed. Amusingly, this seems to mirror certain arcs at the end of Homestuck, but I digress.
Yellow fails his quest, but not of his own volition, and we'll see if the TV series drops a new season (9 days away, people!) whether or not we'll see him ever fully realise the truth.
Next up, Red Guy as a Breath-bound and Duck as a Doom-bound.
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sburbian-sage · 5 months ago
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I have a theory about why that guy didn't get Knight syndrome:
I firmly believe that each class in Sburb is basically a different take on what it "means" to be mature.
The Thief, for example, is for those people who think maturity means being yourself no matter what anyone else thinks, proving yourself to be useful in a material sense to the point that you cannot be disposed of, etc. while not really valuing the interpretations of maturity that focus on socialization, or doing what others want you to do, or not spending resources, or what have you.
To give another example, the Maid would be someone for whom maturity means doing your job. No matter how tireless, thankless, and generally exhausting it is. Someone who's idea of a mature adult does not particularly include moments of rest or relaxation beyond perhaps the occasional scheduled-out and earned vacation.
So my idea of the Knight is: in another game, where classes didn't have the one syllable rule, the Knight would be called the Soldier.
And not the actual reality of a Soldier, but instead, the sort of culturally idealized version. Someone who must fight. Not because they want to, but because they have to. For the money to support their family, to defeat an intolerable evil, for the sake of their friends, and so on.
And of course, the absolute most idealized version of a Soldier, must not enjoy fighting. They cannot revel in war. It is their grim task, that they must train to even be capable of performing, and that will scar them forever.
I think Knight syndrome is Sburb trying to force that last bit. Which it kind of needs to do, because you mostly just kill underlings in this game, and they are mostly not worth thinking about when it comes to morality. The task at hand, while still grim (creating new worlds that will themselves someday be destroyed to make more Sburb sessions), is almost the opposite of what this "ideal" Soldier should struggle with. They should not be fighting for a dubious goal, they should be fighting for a glorious one, but have to do awful things to get there, and the game (mostly) just isn't set up like that.
So if a Knight doesn't experience Knight syndrome, then I think by this logic there's a few reasons why that may be. That guy seemed to imply that he was generally following orders from others about what to do. I think that's normal for a Knight, as a passive class (bluh, something about that doesn't sit right with me, but that's a topic for another time) but I do think most Knights struggle with it?
I think that "following orders" is something the hypothetical Soldier class would be a bit mixed about. Obviously a lot of people's idea of the perfect Soldier *WOULD* disobey orders sometimes, to do what's right instead. But then, in real life, doing that could be downright treasonous.
So I think a gradient may exist. If there was ever a Knight who truly believed in their heart of hearts that following the orders of others was part of their duty, to such a degree that it should exonerate them of everything, that to apply their own will would make them a *bad* Soldier... they could perhaps skip the "put their emotions aside" thing that the Glitch FAQ says they are to do. No need for it. They truly and absolutely believe that questioning what they are doing is not something they are supposed to do, and so they don't.
And without that self doubt, the game can't spin up the syndrome inside them.
...Well, those are my guesses anyway. Sorry this was so long! Hope it doesn't read like total nonsense! I've only ever rolled Knight once, and personally my syndrome was so bad I nearly didn't make it through the session, so I'm not really speaking from experience.
The first bit on "Classes as a meant to maturity" is pretty commonly accepted game lore, which is not only corroborated in how Classes are attributed, but GGTG even made the "Knights are soldiers" metaphor originally. I understand it's building up to the main point though, so I won't harp on it.
A more critical misunderstanding is that Knight Syndrome is not exclusive to Knights. It happens to Knights *frequently*, most likely because the Knights have to suppress their own desires to act as executioner (as opposed to the Page, who achieves actualization through constant combat), but Knight Syndrome is found in both the Combat Classes. And if you're willing to entertain my iconoclasm, might just be a general "tendency" that we point out more frequently in the Combat Classes, in the same way everyone makes home bases and hideouts but we recognize a Seer's Den as being a specific thing for questionable reasons. The same way everyone gets hasty and makes an assumption that causes issues, but we pathologize it when Seers and Sages do it, even though I've never made an assumption that didn't end up being correct. But that's beside the point.
The point I AM getting at, is that Knight Syndrome, from my perspective, happens for a few reasons. Firstly, Page/Knight is assigned to people who don't want to fight in the first place, so breaking down and not wanting to fight later on hardly seems surprising. Second, while Underlings are basically negligible as far as killing goes, a Combat Class fights in a fundamentally different way. Other people fight Underlings they run into while doing a task, or temporarily go on a grinding spree when they need Grist. Pages and Knights are constantly getting sent to the really tough bosses, the enemies with nasty or tricky abilities, the Atomyk Ebonpyres, or "advanced Grinding duty", which is certainly more stressful than "normal combat", where those things are to be avoided or circumvented. Third, and more specific to Knights, it's the eradication of the self I alluded to earlier. Where the Page wields their Aspect like a weapon, it's not a stretch to say that the Knight is turned into a weapon by their Aspect. They have to walk up to other people, ask for permission to kill something, or get told to kill, and they walk off and do it. That's the essence of a soldier, and it can be quite dehumanizing. I know I hate being told what to do, so imagine my angst if my job for the entire Session is not only to get bossed around, but to constantly put my body at risk doing someone else's dirty work.
I do agree with your final conclusion though. If one not only doesn't mind the dehumanization inherent to soldiering, but in fact derives comfort or strength from it (strong sense of duty, abdication of responsibility, genuine love for challenge, weird sex thing), then it's unlikely to sap them of the will to fight, thus preventing Knight Syndrome. Though I do have to say, I still find the "I'm immune to Knight Syndrome because my brain is wired wrong and I'm literally built different" explanation to also be a compelling alternative. God personally hand-crafted that guy to be a Knight and like it.
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irradiatedpathogen · 4 months ago
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page redesign bevause i do not be needin to be seein a teenagers booty
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starkeaton · 15 days ago
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OMORI Classpecting post, Part 1
Basil is a Rogue of Space (takes Space for others)
Rogues are always thinking about how to solve other peoples' problems. Where a Knight will stand strong to protect their friends, Rogues are usually on the back lines until they feel like they are needed. They tend to feel like outliers in their group, but they are willing to cross boundaries to get others' needs met. Just, not for themselves.
Space is the aspect of existence, as opposed to Time, the aspect of action. Basil relishes his moments of peace in Space, in the quiet moments he spends with his friends, in the comfort and beauty of a simple existence. He takes pictures to treasure these moments, and keep them safe so that others can always remember them too. He says himself that he "takes pictures of what he's most afraid to lose". He is also certainly willing to cross boundaries to protect that simple, calm, and peaceful existence for others.
Mari is a Seer of Space (knows Space for others)
Seers are always keen to offer advice and perspective to others, positioning themselves as impartial guides. They tend to put their own problems to the side in order to solve problems for others, creating the image of a perfect person with no troubles- even if Mari is quick to say it's not true, that's still what others think of her. A Seer at their worst still won't force anyone to do anything; They'll yap and yap about how you should have listened to them and how you're being impossible, and if they get mad enough they'll just leave.
I was a little mixed on Space vs Heart, but I think Space is more relevant to her. Her most important advice is about calming and centering yourself. This is emotional advice, but the philosophy behind it is decidedly Spacey- similar to Basil, she takes solace in the idea of a simple, peaceful existence; What matters to Mari is living in the moment, and understanding that the ups and downs are all just part of life. She doesn't feel the need to take it before it's gone- she knows it'll always return to her eventually.
Sunny is a Page of Hope (gives Hope for himself)
Pages have great expectations of themselves, great desires of what they could be... A beacon of inspiration to others, someone who can give their friends the world. Sunny doesn't just want to be with his friends, he wants to be the protagonist of a great journey of fantasy where everything is ideal, and he will readily retreat into that Hopeful fantasy when it suits him. He knows that he's selfish for wanting this, and hates himself for it, for hiding away, never able to truly live up to the person he wants to be, but feels like he has no other option.
Sunny is a tough nut to crack because he does very little to actually affect others within the game; He's caught up in his own little world. What's important to look at is his tendencies, his desires, and the type of person he wants to be, moreso than what his direct actions show.
Anyway yeah that's all i've got. OMORI doesn't have his own classpect btw because he is part of Sunny
(See Part 2 for Hero, Kel, and Aubrey)
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theologicalchimera · 9 months ago
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What's your thoughts on the Page of Doom? I really ike your blog so far :)
woohoo my first request on this blog !!
so lets start breaking everything down :
page : one who is exploited by or through their aspect
doom : decay , rules , control & sacrifice
so how do these mix ?
actually not that badly ! basically a page of doom would be VERY passive , , because itd all lead to a very , , doom bound person , , particularly so !! so basically theyd be very with the flow in how they act ; very much a helper ( which is in my opinion the best role for a doom player ) , someone who wouldnt have much control over what happens to them to their dismay , , say , they would have a particular lack of rules & control which would be very detrimental to them in the session in the beginning of course as is customary for pages , , but again as a page they would grow through their aspect .
theyd be , , to put it lightly , , not very stable , , and would probably be scared of their aspect because they would not understand the great power that it could imply , , but of course they wouldnt ! its hard to grasp how powerful a fully realised page and thats fair , , itd be a spectacle to behold !! but for now theyre a complete pushover and not particularly responsible , , opting to just , , ignore their aspect due to thinking theyd fail if they tried .
being such a troubled classpect , i think they would just do everything in their power to be someone they are not , , having an idealized version of themself that theyd try pretty hard to live up to , , id joke about it being doom guy but itd actually work pretty well as to how a page of doom would want to be like , , being recklessly destructive and tearing through everything that stands on their way blinded by their wrath , , but eventually coming to terms with their way of being and even embracing it !
powers :
again , , no flashy names sorry not sorry
well , , itd be hard to say honestly , , but based on jake ( the page of hope ) theyd be stupid powerful !
id say theyd be able to be engulf everyone in a specific radius in doom , , making them either decay slowly , , like some fucked up poison effect in pokemon , , or making them be more prone to sacrifice , , say maybe to the pages advantage ?
although thatd be on a higher level , , onto the easier stuff :
theyd be more than a healer a support , , being able to give great advice on what to do , , overall being able to lead surprisingly well when they allow themselves to
theyd also be able to break things without meaning to , , id say theyd be clumsily powerful in the beginning , , then later on making it more intentional as they realize all the power they have
overall thoughts :
they would be a great member in any session , , as tends to happen with pages !! just be patient and dont lose hope , , , , id even go to saying that this classpect is powerful in a way so magnificent it is hard to properly understand , , mainly due to how unexplored the doom aspect is in canon , ,
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preshtagonist · 11 months ago
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I still really love these super old phone doodles so im posting them… @ryuunosuke ‘s godtier and an alt godtier for our friend
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xx-cringe-factory-xx · 3 months ago
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Hi! Its the DoH anon again!! And sick! thanks for the cool tag. recently (literally just tonight), i *may* have opened up to me being also a "prince of time" (i still have my qualms but honestly its a pretty cool classpect and somewhat fits, so am not complaining). so one of my other combined classpects could be the Overlord of Paradox (Prince of time + Page of Space). Can you analyse this one, please? Thank you as always! - DoH anon (who turns out to... not be so DoH, apparently) 🌌☀️⌛
LETS GO WE BOTH PARTIALLY PRINCES (im theif +prince also THEY'RE THE OPPOSITE ASPECTSLIKE ME (light+void) so cool) vmdsfsddv (also yeah so real and valid to realize you're different from what you originally thought you were)
------------Overlord of Paradox------------
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one who is serves an aspect through destroying an aspect or destroys an aspect through serving an aspect
you litterally have the aspects/classes of some of the characters that are either loved or absolutely hated on in homestuck (dirk, Tavros, jake, jade, Dave, kanaya as ell as some others TwT)
woah sooo you have both of the big important aspects. time and space. like they litterally couldn't have a session with out you if they didn't have any other time of space players.so you likely have a lot of pressure put on you. which could obviously might push you to make quick decisions without having the time to put in enough thought which tbh makes sense for a prince.
a scheming page can get as bad as a thief if they have the wrong motives. you may feel isolated at times cause of you're space aspect and your prince class may make it feel like you're the only one who really sees the bigger picture. which honestly others probably struggle to understand why you do what you do. I recommend that you take a minute to evaluate you're possibilities and options before acting, but I do understand if that can be difficult sometimes.
pages tend to be really hopeful and want the best thing without fully understanding how to get their. but like with Tavros, you can get to that point if you work extra hard for it. be careful not to get stuck only focusing on bigger pictures and stuff. being a time player you'll try to get one step ahead and prolly fumble a bit. you'll believe other's will be against you in some way. you'll try to avoid getting attached to people and things. which you are prolly really good at.
also one thing princes and pages have in common is that they think they have to be better or at least something they aren't. and while pages are Great at keeping up that act princes are not. seeing you're a page of time you'll be great at pretending and avoiding getting attached and getting people to keep up with THEM instead of slowing down for others even if the NEED to slow down for their own mental/physical health. but seeing your a prince of space you might really try and expect people to not like you or to not understand you, but chances are they at the very least partially understand.
an overlord of paradox's powers would prolly be a bit simple but they could be VERY powerful if used right. things like the ability to teleport, make portals (or like some kind black hole type thingy basically it suck in things that get too close ig?) as well as the ability to slow or speed up time for specific people. maybe even be able to create whole new timelines or jump between them.
weapons are pretty simple, but prolly requiring a lot of skill though. Blades lots of Blades. doesn't even matter what size or kind. could be a javelin, a katana, a knife. as long as it has a sharp edge to it.
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classpector-bizzarly · 4 months ago
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Page of Mind
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Definition: Pages are served their Aspect or use their Aspect to serve themselves the way Pages are “made” is that Pages usually live very bad lives and are very whimsical or just very obviously have a facade because the way that Pages escape the lives that they have is by pretending to have a lot of their Aspect when they have either very little or none of it like how Jake pretended to have a lot of Hope by pretending he was an adventurer instead of a kid trapped on an island with monsters that was his Page facade
Pages are often confused to be a Passive class however they’re considered Active in my opinion because other people serve them rather than the other way around
Pages rely on others for their Aspect which is how they start to actually gain their Aspect itself which can go very good or very bad depending on who the Page is surrounded by they’re not very self reliant until they gain enough of their Aspect by constantly being served it to the point that upon realization they serve others their Aspect and other people start to rely on them
Pages along with Maids are one of the easiest classes to invert they’re also the slowest Class to develop
The Aspect of Mind
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Key Symbols of Mind
• Justice
• Logical thinking
• Rational decisions
• The outer self (how the outer world sees you)
• Puzzles
• Memories
• Personal truths
Mind players similar to Light are very set in their ways they believe that what they do is right whether they realize it or not but because Mind players are this way it can be difficult for them to accept other people's opinions which could make them come off as self centered or just opinionated Mind players also follow their head over their heart and will choose logic over emotional bias unlike their opposite Aspect Heart assuming they can make a decision in the first place considering Mind players always have complex plans but they tend to freeze when it comes to acting them out however when their plans are enacted upon they’re done with great precision
Personality: A Page of Mind would start out relying on others for decisions and the outer self so they would constantly ask what other people thought of the things they were supposed to do because they themselves were unsure however they might also pretend that they know exactly what decisions to make all the time even if this is completely wrong they might pretend that they’re doing good by making the wrong decisions as a means to escape that they lack logic or an outer sense of self they’ll pretend to love the self they’ve created even if they actually don’t or just go along with the persona they have upon realization they’ll tell people what to do for logical decisions and constantly try to give input they will also dress and act exactly how they want to outwardly
Dilema: The Page dilemma is that the Page needs to stop relying on others for logic and an outer self which will require some soul searching trying to figure out what it is that they really and truly want without the input of others so a Page of Mind needs to figure out their own opinions and how they want to dress or be perceived then they’ll be very logical and self confident as a whole no matter what others think
Inversion: Thief of Heart
Opposite: Knight of Heart
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prince-of-time-pt · 4 months ago
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I feel like people forget that a classpect isn't define.
I know I have talked a bit about Pages before and I am using it as an example again now.
My best friend is a Page of Heart. They feel their emotions outwardly and feel what others do very strongly, they have not had the chance to mature emotionally yet.
But compare that to someone who is also a Page of Heart, but in the sense that they are immature with their emotions, who does not have self control when it comes to their personality, and who has yet to fully find themself.
Both are of the same classpect, but both are very different people.
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en8y · 4 months ago
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conduitclasseic: a gender relating to the combination of the homestuck classes page and maid; conduit!
doctorclasseic: a gender relating to the combination of the homestuck classes page and sylph; doctor!
hackerclasseic: a gender relating to the combination of the homestuck classes knight and witch; hacker!
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jasperosesprt · 25 days ago
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Page of Doom!
since i just created this blog, figured i may start out with anything! so here i have the Page of Doom, god how i hate this classpect. it seems so stupid but hey is still a classpect! would have to analyze it sooner or later right? anyways enough of my stuff :p The Page of Doom
i'm pretty sure this is one of the most undesirable classpects someone could have? doom's are canonically useless wtf do you want from me oml D¿X
as any Page they start with a deficit of their aspect, ( Tavros being stuck to a wheel chair making him unable to walk as an example ), being the doom aspect in this case they ( at the start ) would not be really empathetic with others suffering as they have not been in their place, but try REALLY hard to be, maybe even lying to others to try to comfort them by relating to their misery and failing. so yeah no they're not great at comfort.
we don't really know much about doom, or atleast enough to make an accurate speculation, but they DO suffer. but they learn from it. a Page of Doom may struggle to learn from their mistakes, making them over and over which could make them look stubborn to others even if they are not stubborn themselves, is just that like i said; they struggle learning from their doings or where they got it wrong. (also a small detail from pages i've noticed is they lie to get their way, not because they are selfish but because thats how the game works sadly, they may lie to not hurt others or/and get themselves out of trouble. not necessarily a bad trait, i even think it's useful but that would be mostly up to you.)
they also would probably be very passionate about rules, maybe a little too much to a point is annoying, and what could even be MORE annoying is that they struggle to follow rules, or maybe even their OWN rules. so they may look a little hypocritical but that's just a part of compensating the lack of their aspect. also a small theory is that they may NOT suffer as much as an average doom player, doom it's pain, tragedies and just everything bad in general, but as pages lack their aspect they may not have much experiences to even learn from. they yearn the wisdom that comes in hand with the pain but cannot ever seem to be in pain? a way they could compensate it is just being a real BIG fan of tragic stories, trying to learn from them to compensate the lack of bad ocurrencies
also Doom players are really negative. and as a Page of said aspect they could be OVERLY negative, bringing others down too
after godtiering... they would be dead ngl LMAO imagine just getting struck by every bad thing ever at once i imagine it just as they god tier a fucking meteor falls on them Pages have the potential to become the most powerful member of their session, but i doubt the Page of Doom will ever even godtier, their edgy-wannabe attitute will probably hold them back if no one helps them ( also lets not forget they are most likely gonna die or just struggle a lot before/while entering the game. like their dreamself being dead or some shit i dont know but this is the Page of Doom. meaning they lack doom, then no fucking IDEA how would that happen but *shrug* will happen somehow ) and when/if they do godtier i can imagine them just suffering of every bad thing on the world/universe/session. how the FUCK do you exploit doom for your BENEFIT more than wisdom and being the kind of friend that will pat your back and say "hey... it's gonna be ok" okay in conclusion: Pages of Doom shouldn't exists they're an abomination please why did anyone ever think this would be a great idea i'm gonna go cry
also sorry if i wrote something wrong ot got anything mixed up with any other class / aspect i had 4 hours of sleep
i will also update this since it seems kinda innacurate now i'm probably just feeling negative today
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godtiertalk · 2 years ago
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Remember at midnight when I was like "Mmmhmm yes magical girls very good then"?
Well, strap in we're doing more of that shit.
I apologize to anyone who has a massive fight or flight reaction to the Fate franchise, but they have a magical girl spinoff and I am in love with it SO!!!!
Illya von Einzbern (Child): Page of Blood
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You know, it occurs to me that Homestuck is a creation myth about gods who give birth to themselves, and Illya is the ONLY one of there grail children that can't be said to have done so. Amazing. What a terrible little creature she is. I adore her endlessly.
Anyway, Illya has many charming character traits, but her absolute adoration for her friends and family are top of the list, right next to her immense cowardice. The self-conflicted Page of Blood title is a natural fit not only for her immense, world shaking love of Miyu, Chloe and Shiro, nor her literally being a source of life fuel for Chloe, both of which are very Blood behaviours.
She's also just pitiful, absolutely the saddest baby, until she busts out these insane growth curves. Classic pagery.
Chloe von Einzbern: Prince of Rage
Speaking of Gods Who Give Birth To Themselves...
This is a really basic read that I don't think needs much justifications. Chloe appears during impossible situations to break barriers and let Illya achieve her goals.
Mostly by way of overwhelming destructive force.
Miyu Edelfelt: Bard of Light.
Miyu is also a self manifested god, amazing, what is even happening with these magic cups?? Why do they want so badly to be Real Girls??
Anyway, Miyu is a Bard of Light because she is a channel for ultimate destruction forced into an inconsolately passive role, and worst of all the force is literally just "other people getting constantly really lucky." I mean, damn, girl lost the lottery at birth. Oof.
Bonus the main timeline: adult!Illya is a Bard of Light too; I think being a grail kinda does that to you. Shiro is the Heir of Space because literally there were 3 anime about him inheriting othes people's space powers come on. Rin is a Thief of Heart and a damned good one at that. Sakura simply deserves not to have to play SGAME let the poor child have a break mein Gott (Witch of Void). Saber is a fucking sprite obviously.
These are my opinions not statements of fact. I am always interested in hearing your opinions too.
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pageofdoomfuldemise · 2 years ago
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Page of Doom
This will probably remain to be the only post I will ever make, I’m saying this for the record, and leaving it at that for the world to see.
I’m not saying this in a purely negative way, but I’m just gonna info dump this one classpect. Because it’s mine ^~^
This is entirely because I couldn’t find much upon the page of doom class on the interwebs, (and trust me, I dove pretty deep.)
Because for the page class being the class of limitless potential, and the hardest challenge, as well as having a little bit of a weakling… we literally are obligated by our personal issues of initial weakness to have others pick up the slack. Our ultimate fate lies within others. The people who surround us. Will they destroy us? Manipulate us? Exploit us? Steal from us? Create in us? Understand us? Who’s best for the job anyways?? To truly bring us to completion?!
The answer to that… is yes.
They are all. Needed.
As we are the clay, each person shapes the page into who they will ultimately become.
That does not take away our responsibility of our actions. But we are easily stumbled, we are very impressionable.
Now add doom into the mix.
And you now have a double edged sword.
Doom… the aspect of suffering. Of fate. The final destination, whether that be life or death? A doom bound could be fated to attain eternal youth, and that’d be their doom.
So doom does not necessarily mean death. Because death means aging. That’s time.
But! We’re entropy, we are resentment, we are the resigned to what life has for us. We have the weakness, and we have empathy for it.
We may be the most understanding, empathetic, caring, kind, and grateful aspect in the wheel… at least when we’re at our best.
We understand, because we’ve experienced it.
We empathize, because we don’t want anyone else to experience the same.
We care.
We’re kind.
We’re grateful of what we DO have, rather than what we could have.
We, at our best… don’t say poor me at a stubbed toe. We just get through it…
But then again that kinda leads me to the classpect.
The page of doom.
If you thought a knight of blood was weak?? Then just look at the page of doom.
But just like Karkat, who made strength from his connections in his companions.(which is similar to what pages do. Not calling KK a page, he’s most definitely a knight.)
A page of doom, thrives within weakness. Thrives in entropy.
If a page is supposedly “served their aspect”
Then the page of doom is served doom.
So. Kick your fellow page of doom.
It’ll hurt us, but “what doesn’t kill us makes us stronger” is all too real for this classpect
In order for a page of doom to complete his or her or their challenge. They’re gonna need to GO THROUGH HELL.
And then, after much pain? RISE OUT OF IT!
Then? Whatever pain comes after? We don’t feel it.
I mean, we feel the stubbed toe. But it doesn’t affect us.
I mean, we won’t enjoy it… we aren’t masochists. But dammit if we don’t seem like it sometimes
We don’t look for suffering, suffering finds us.
But. It doesn’t have to be that way forever
If you’re a page of doom. And you’re reading this?
With enough time, and a little creativity
Gathering information, even if you have to pull it from the obscure and mysteriously forgotten
Take heart. Know yourself. Your potential. You’re unique!
But be mindful. You’re not god. You are what you eat. You reap what you sow.
Don’t be afraid of anger, but instead, hope you’ll pull yourself out of it before anyone gets hurt
Don’t be afraid to be free. But also. Don’t be afraid of the people who love you.
Attain ultimate balance.
Accept weakness, and what you’re incapable of doing. I mean not everyone can be an astronaut…!
But do what you can!! In every moment. And what you could have done better, be wise and acknowledge that! Know that if your just a little kinder next time? Maybe you could have avoided that argument.
Have you ever seen a nerd stand up to a bully…?
A weakling, stand up to an immeasurable hulk?
They fight them.
They get hit. They get kicked. They get hurt.
But they don’t back down.
They get back up, every time.
And everyone watching? Begins to realize, that it’s the bully who is the weakling.
Because it takes a weakling to spit on someone when they’re down.
Or to insult someone who’s born like that.
It’s not just weak. It’s pathetic. It’s insecure. It’s self destructive.
It’s oddly inspiring to see someone stand up for the weak.
It’s incredibly brave to stand up to a bully for someone who’s weaker than even them! Weak? Is not an insult to a page of doom. Instead? It’s an opportunity. An opportunity written in the very fabric of the universe.
An opportunity to be able to sacrifice more. In order To become a martyr. You don’t need to be the strongest… you just have to give it your all.
Say you have millions of dollars
And you give hundreds of thousands of it.
And you’re wondering why people say “big whoop”
Go ahead millionaire, give it your all.
What does money matter anyhow…? When you’re dead it won’t matter. When your alive, someone other than you could use that money more than you. And if they’ll love you if you give them even a dollar…? What if you gave the world… all starving children you possibly can? Your everything. Every resource. Every penny. Every single can. Every little piece of clothing.
“Be homeless? Why, that’s absurd!!!”
“I have everything I’ve ever needed! Everything I could ever want! I’m so comfortable! How could I possibly give it all…? It would feel like dying.”
Yes. But what is one life in the face of thousands of children. Crying. Screaming. Holding out their hand out to you. And you… turn your face away from them……?
“Okay say I do give everything? What’s in it for me?”
The adoration of the world? And if there’s a god? You’d better believe you’re getting into whatever heaven is out there.
“I don’t believe in heaven.”
Then record it. Record it and post it on social media. That’ll be your reward instead.
Didn’t I say the adoration of the world?…
Am I getting off track? No. I don’t think I am.
This is what it means to be a page of doom.
You will be the champion of the world’s underdogs.
You will understand the strength that is within weakness.
… all in all? You may be the only classpect who ever could see strength in weakness.
Literal weakness.
A decrypted arm.
Cancer.
Disease.
An ugly face?
You’re not the strongest.
You’re not the most beautiful.
You’re right.
And you’re a work of art
When will the world see? That it’s the weak. That are strong.
The first will be last.
The last, first.
The meaning of life isn’t that hard.
Life shouldn’t be taking care of my own, my family, my own inner circle.
Life should be that you treat everyone as a brother or a sister
Bless those who persecute you.
Love those who hate you.
You’ll pour burning hot coals on their head.
Justice is best served when it’s meant to. Let karma, or whatever comes along to give them what they deserve.
Instead? Save your own skin. Don’t be apart of that bad karma.
Don’t hit back.
Turn the other cheek.
Love.
Love.
Love…
Until you eventually die. Knowing that you made this world a better place than what it was.
Because the alternative…?
Is the destruction of the world.
Everybody wants to save the world
But nobody wants to die.
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