#Mike and el are back together
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Most underrated byler moment goes to this. Them hugging, only to stand by each other this close, with Will looking at Mike emotionally waiting for him to look back, but all Mike can do is stand there frozenā¦ Both suffering and not feeling like they can comfort each other any more than they already have ššš
#byler#Iām actually having a mental breakdown about this rn#I remember really early on into believing byler#I rewatched this scene and this shot specifically just stuck w me#I feel like we barely talk about it#but seeing as mike and el are like continuously embracing beyond that one time#and Mike is constantly looking dejected in those embraces#and Mike and Will only got to hug once basically#with him literally falling into wills arms and then pulling away like heās been burnedā¦#makes this shot all the more fucking tragic#Mike and el are back together#mike is back to repressing#and then they hug and heās even more pushed into the closet bc he canāt let himself face what heās feeling straight onā¦#and then theyāre both gone#and then s4 happens and Mike canāt barely hug Will#after that s3 hug???#oh he is down bad bad#itās so fucking tragic#it hurts
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You only really need to understand 5 things to know why Byler is happening:
Mikeās arc in season 3 was about pretending to be someone heās not in the pursuit of āgrowing upā. It was about kids playing at relationships. This was the only season with focus on the state of M!leven while dating & not separated and it was treated as an immature joke.
Season 4, instead of proving to us why M!leven are right for each other, quite literally does the opposite and shows us nothing except them having awful communication & not finding emotional safety in each other. There is not a single scene between them which is an exception to this.
Meanwhile, Mike and Will are attached at the hip. We see how they resolve conflict maturely and between themselves. We see a strong emotional connection. We see how Mike feels more comfortable being vulnerable with Will than he is with anyone else, and how Will is always always there for him. We see howā¦
Willās painting & monologue (aka his romantic love for Mike) soothed Mikeās insecurities and boosted his confidence. It made him ridiculously happy. And being reminded of this lie about El by Will himself ends up being necessary to encourage Mike to go ahead with his ālove monologueā, which winds up indirectly causing a literal apocalypse. You cannot make this shit up lmao.
M!leven is entirely framed through Willās experience. Heās in every scene except their fight, his pain and misery over them is never not the focus. Literally never. We are not seeing the story of M!levenās love, we are seeing the story of Willās heartbreak.
Nothing else matters. Like in the most clinical story writing terms, Mikeās character is not going to find out that the person who made him feel the most loved & understood is in love with him and is the one who actually feels all these things about him that just happen to align with exactly what Mike needs to hear to embody the truest and best version of himself, and instead of realising he loves that character back, goes nah Iām good Iāll end up together forever with the person who whilst dating them I became someone I was not and also had terrible self-esteemāoh and also the relationship is insanely immature. Itās that simple. Whether or not Mike currently believes he loves El or currently wants to remain in a relationship is so so so irrelevant. Storytelling doesnāt care what the character thinks he wants, it cares about what the character needs!
#byler#anti mileven#havenāt really talked about this in a while but here we are#I can see it so clearly in my head it still baffles me that people worry (I mean not really like I get it but you donāt need to)#Mike and El have a childrenās mimicry of a relationship held together by trauma. they will realise they hold each other back#(possibly along with Mike realising he doesnāt like girls at all) and end it#how it happens and how well it will be executed is up for debate but Mike will be with Will in the end#whether thatās ambiguous letās get out of this town or something more official. thatās how itās going to happen#I feel like Iām being gaslit by the controversy of it all because itās just so obvious and always has been? š
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hot take but I donāt think that lucas or dustin (or anyone, for that matter, other than maybe robin) are going to see whatās going on between mike and will until it happens. they donāt suspect ANYTHING. when they actually get together everyoneās going to be shocked
#as much as i love the āmax knew all along!ā fics#wellā¦ she didnāt#when she got there mike was obsessing over two people: will and el#iām sure she assumed it was because he just got will back and el just disappeared (of course she didnāt really know about el from the start#as for everyone else#theyāve always been like that.#mike and will since the beginning- always together#i donāt think they suspect anything. maybe they did once but i doubt they do now#i donāt believe el suspects anything#to dustin and lucas theyāre not acting any differently than how they always doā¦#robin is the only one who would really notice anything honestly (which is why iām excited to see her on screen with them)#and YES jonathan KNOWS but he DOES NOT THINK that mike likes will back.#i truly do think that no one has any idea whatās going on except for mike and will themselves#byler#stranger things#stranger things 5#will byers#mike wheeler#the duffer brothers#byler endgame
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i have a soft spot for fics where billy sort of ends up adopting el and will alongside max. like, these are the kids that get dibs for rides in the camaro haha.
also im unfortunately not participating bc prev commitments but #harringrove for turkey is happening right now if yall want to donate to the earthquake relief funds for turkey & syria and get some art/fic back from harringrove fans! :) check out the tag if you're interested!!
#stranger things#stranger things fanart#billy hargrove#max mayfield#will byers#jane hopper#st eleven#eleven#eleven stranger things#obviously the ones where the party as a whole adopts billy are also very good#but i think it's cute when they end up getting split like this#it's precious when will asks billy for gay advice and maybe has a tiny crush on him#where billy and el bond over bad papas and containing anger and billy learning to find childish innocence again through her eyes#where max finds out about neil and stubbornly decides to get through to billy and when billy starts reaching back that's it.#theyre ride-or-die now.#i like those kinds of fics :') and steve gets the other half and then they co-parent together#billy's all right w the other kids too but whenever i interpret his relationships with lucas & mike#it always comes off more to me as 'these are the significant others of my kids so they are automatically on thin ice'#and with dustin it's always 'this is my boyfriend's little brother'#but will and el and max are billy's directly#i digress!#sometimes i dont post at all and then i post two things in a week! consistency who???
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We, as a fandom, need to provide more band aus for byler!
I know we do have some but... I don't know about u guys because I could see myself reading a 1000 band aus and never getting tired
It's that serious to me!!
Also, Mike is always the rockstar (which... fair lol Finn has the aesthetic) but why not give Will Byers the chance to be the famous one and for Mike to be the fanboy -> what about two rival bands? Or maybe Mike auditions for a role in Will's band (and vice versa)
We need MORE, SO MUCH MORE!!!
THE POSSIBILITIES ARE ENDLESS
#stranger things#will byers#mike wheeler#byler#willel started as a duo#lucas joined them later on#madwheeler are in a band together and max DEFINITELY plays the drums and mike is the vocalist#i feel like El would get main vocal in most of their songs#i think it suits her#Will is usually in charge of the backing vocals but he does sing in this au#the au in question lives only in the depths of my mind unfortunately#i feel like Lucas would play the guitar and Will is their bassist#idk if this makes sense
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#don't worry - they get back together 5 mins later#stranger things#my edit#texts from last night#mike wheeler#finn wolfhard#eleven hopper#el hopper#jane hopper#millie bobby brown#elmike#byler#mentioned but not seen#will byers#mileven#incorrect quotes#stranger things incorrect quotes#season 4#st 4
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no offense but i cannot believe some people only watch this show for byler and dont care about the upside down and everything else oh my god thats so insane to me
#just saw someone say they stopped watching after mike said he loves el#YOU JUST DIDNT MIND NOT KNOWING WHAT HAPPENS TO MAX??? WHAT HAPPENS TO EDDIE??? WHAT HAPPENS TO ALL OF HAWKINS????!!! YOU JUST MOVED ON?????#YOU MISSED THE AMAZING SYNTH VERSION OF RUNNING UP THAT HILL!!!!#AND THE EL AND HOPPER REUNION!!!! AND CALI GETTING BACK TO HAWKINS#this show was my favorite way before i thought byler would happen and im glad for that it makes me appreciate the entire story more#this would still be my favorite show if will didnt like mike and mlvn were good together#byler
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ted 100% meant will when he said "and no sweetie pie" if you even care
#why? well because i say so#ted is that ally no one expected to be an ally#but also do mike's parents even know about el? like they saw el's picture as the 'russian girl' mike kept on their basement#so... do they know about el?#i don't think so...#anyhow ted thinking mike and will have been together since forever is canon in my heart#going back to that one byler fic with that exact same prompt#i should read it again because it was so damn good#byler#byler tumblr#mike x will
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Here's the thing about season 3. Nothing was a secret. There was no lining or buildup. They cleared up the miscommunication in episode 4 and she stood by breaking up with him anyways.
From there, just like I say about Will's feelings being unreciprocated, the problem is unactionable, so there's no lesson and nothing for us to root for.
Mike wants to get back together with El. She knows that. Nothing happens.
The L bomb was dropped as a false sense of momentum, because there actually wasn't any because him not saying it wasn't the problem so it shouldn't be the solution. Usually you have pining. Think the full season breakup story they did the following season:
There was pining. There was investment from US. Because there was setup for confession. Because something was withheld to be revealed. "You know I really like you but you don't know I love you" does not count. Lucas didn't know Max wanted to get back together. They had been broken up long enough and Lucas was respectful enough that Max couldn't be sure either. That setup investment for the notes passing scene. That set up his NERVES in it. That set up me being excited when I saw their first kiss in her 4x04 happy memories sequence. And satisfied to have predicted the Snow Ball as her happiest memory. If Max had known he definitely wanted to get back together as soon as she was ready again and wasn't going to move on at all, there would be no stakes.
Mike wanted to be with El. Then she didn't want to be with him. She can't have the nerves of confessing to him she wants to get back together because she already knows he does. He can't have the nerves of confessing he wants to because he already has. And they didn't establish them as friends solidly or for long enough like they did by establishing that Lucas and Max had ALREADY broken up as opposed to a 6 day breakup arc to make it so that they became unsure of what they once knew to me true of getting back together. Severity of wording changed and El loves romantic tropes in movies so it had influence but really:
Mike had no information to add that El didn't already have. El had nothing stopping her giving Mike information as soon as she had it. There were no stakes. So I didn't care. Whatever happened, cute. That was my thought process. But I had no real investment anymore, unlike when they were building to confession or fighting to get back to each other, because I knew as soon as she wanted to get back together they just automatically would be. So if you, like you were meant to, believed that Mike loved El and knew that she knew that, that scene where she said it back was cute. But not satisfying.
There is nothing to be resolved. We're watching events take place sequentially. Because when there are no stakes, there's no real goal either. Mike invented one for himself because he was uncomfortable with the idea of how comfortable he was broken up.
Tldr: Mike and El's relationship had no secrets and therefore no stakes or opportunity for confession in season 3. El telling Mike she loved him was cute, but not a "confession". Because, just like Mike telling her he loves her in 4x09, if we (think we) know how the other person is feeling and will react, we can't at all invest in the feelings of nervousness or satisfaction that the confessor is feeling.
Season 3 and 4 uninvested us by feigning plots in which they gave us no new information. And bored us. If you know exactly how a scene will play out all but exact wording, you will space out because you can. A writer never wants you to be able to space out and miss nothing. (Until they don't want you to miss what's happening when they take it away)
#elmike pacing#stranger things#THAT'S how they uninvested people I GET IT NOW#they didn't give them plots#they just pretended to#first watch#but i vividly remember when they broke up thinking it was super satisfying but i'd stay onboard with the ship because i knew they would get#back together#consistently every viewer knew exactly what was going to happen#in season 4 i was hopeful for lum@x but not certain#which made me all the more invested#if it's gonna happen whether you want it to or not then when you want it to there's no further reason to shout at your tv for it to hapoen#you can sit back#you can take a nap#trusting that when you wake uo it will have happened#you are approving but uninvested because the outcome is obvious#why? because you have been (supposedly) given all information on both sides#and the characters have as well#so there's no intrigue#el knew mike wanted her back#mike knew she didnt because she hadnt gotten back together with him despite knowing he wanted to#okay so we're literally just sitting here then#the duffer brothers#subversion#elmike season 3#narrative analysis
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mike accepting, loving, and celebrating will's otherness while rejecting his own is so . it's literally Soooooo like i can't see through my tears rn jgenuinely . he's so......... i can 't do this icant finish the post he's so . MICHAEL.............
#mike being the ''it's okay if other ppl are queer but as for myself......... hi :) el :) sure :) lets get back together :) why :) not :)''#kind of queer.................. the writers room WILL pay for their crimes (aka hurting my feelings).#''you make [me] feel better for being different'' to the dude whose internalized homophobia changed their friendship forever . ok lol#they really think they're funny huh...... sniffles . yeah they think they're soooooooooooo hilarrious .... ha ha ...#head in hands pulling my hair out stick figure gore moment#mine
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getting some real "finding each other in vecna's mind palace" vibes from these two
#if season 5 gives me madwheeler plotting to escape vecna together i will finally know peace#it's a good plan (because it's mike's) but it goes wrong at the last second and only one of them makes it out#it's mike. max makes sure of it. he brings news of her continued existence back to the party so that el and lucas can save her#at what point do i just write a fic???#stranger things#platonic madwheeler#max mayfield#mike wheeler#brotp: i could be your zoomer#st posting
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The way fans on the st sub are almost all in agreement Nancy ending up with neither Jon nor Steve wouldnāt be the worst thing in the world, and how they can even come up with a sleuth of reasons as to why, honestly pretty valid and fair reasons, but then are absolutely gobsmacked when fans merely speculate something along those lines for El is, quite something.
#el hopper#byler#platonic elmike#stranger things#this is coming from someone who ADORED mileven in s1-2#I literally skipped all of s2 in my rewatch before s3 aired bc I just wanted to see their reunion#then s3 happened#and I was confused at#A LOT of ppl are#and anyone coming to voice that confusion is ran off Reddit like theyāre committing a crime#like would it hurt yāall to have some of the same common sense you have for el like you do with Nancy#??#I am more jancy leaning but also I just feel like itās certain stancy aināt happening#but Iām also not totally against Nancy wanting to be on her own for a while#maybe theyād imply jancy Will find their way back to each other#maybe theyāre teamed up in s5 and wait until the very end to cement that certainty for each other#but I would not hate their stories if Nancy and Jon decided to live their own lives#FOR THEMSELVES#Nancy doing what she wants and loves#Jonathan doing what he wants instead of just doing stuff that helps people around him#and Iām not going to even get into the reasons why el and mike would benefit from living for themselves outside of their relationship#the attachment to the ship is stronger than any sort of attachment to the character#and when the things keeping them together are not strong to begin withā¦#that attachment is doomed and hard to watch and enjoy like idgi at all#also; all the pro-ronance comments on there getting like 30+ likes??#go ronance I guess??!??#idk if itās because they think byler actually has a serious possibility while ronance has less build up#so they can sort of play with that idea without actually having to take it seriouslyā¦#at least ronance has a positive audience on there#a win is a win I guess šš«”
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something something the fact that almost all the canon couples are shown to be having issues/arguing in st3.
and you know who else is shown arguing?
will and mike.
#st#stranger things#byler#uhh off the top of my head:#joyce and hopper arguing + hopper being super jealous#lucas and max are fine mostly but thereās some conflict with max being team el and lucas being team mike#plus iirc sometimes they just break up and get back together again#dustin not being able to contact suzie for most of the season#jonathan and nancy argue wrt work issues and stuff#mike and el literally spend most of the season broken up#and ofc thereās the byler rain fight
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Things that would get me like hunted by byler tumblr-
I think there's a higher chance of El genuinely having had romantic feelings for Mike than the other way around
#byler#it just like hmmmm#i think the reason for this is that ppl desperately want el to not be hurt and be supportive asap#but like that might not be the case like#the standards el and mike are held to in order to prove/disprove they liked each other is like#mike smiled softly at her in one scene therefore he 100% must like her#meanwhile el has a shrine parallel with nancy who -liked- steve#el initiates the olive branch and them getting back together#mike is being coached through all these actions meanwhile el is being advised to breakup#idk it's just#i don't think it's gonna be that easy
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omgggg literally buffy au !!! with el as the slayer and sheās in these cute little outfits doing backflips and driving stakes into the hearts of vampires and complaining about her homework and the party just finding out one by one about everything. hop as the watcher ššš henry is the Big Bad Vampire and RAHHHH will getting turnedā¦ā¦ā¦. but they do the thing like angel and restore his soul so now heās their cool vampire friend
#in the tags moment for the resulting byler angst:#mike cant handle him being turned so he goes against what el and hop say to try and restore his soul bc he needs will back#and maybe the byers are a witchy bloodline to joyce and jon help#but itās not actually all that great bc now will a) regrets what he did as a vampire and b) wont grow old while mike does#and so mike after awhile just goes like turn me too then we can be together forever but will is like. nope cant do that to u. like bro u#dont get what itās like plus what if u r an evil vampire then what.#stranger things
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