#Mike and el are back together
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chirpsythismorning · 2 years ago
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Most underrated byler moment goes to this. Them hugging, only to stand by each other this close, with Will looking at Mike emotionally waiting for him to look back, but all Mike can do is stand there frozen… Both suffering and not feeling like they can comfort each other any more than they already have 😭😭😭
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starbylers · 5 months ago
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You only really need to understand 5 things to know why Byler is happening:
Mike’s arc in season 3 was about pretending to be someone he’s not in the pursuit of “growing up”. It was about kids playing at relationships. This was the only season with focus on the state of M!leven while dating & not separated and it was treated as an immature joke.
Season 4, instead of proving to us why M!leven are right for each other, quite literally does the opposite and shows us nothing except them having awful communication & not finding emotional safety in each other. There is not a single scene between them which is an exception to this.
Meanwhile, Mike and Will are attached at the hip. We see how they resolve conflict maturely and between themselves. We see a strong emotional connection. We see how Mike feels more comfortable being vulnerable with Will than he is with anyone else, and how Will is always always there for him. We see how…
Will’s painting & monologue (aka his romantic love for Mike) soothed Mike’s insecurities and boosted his confidence. It made him ridiculously happy. And being reminded of this lie about El by Will himself ends up being necessary to encourage Mike to go ahead with his “love monologue”, which winds up indirectly causing a literal apocalypse. You cannot make this shit up lmao.
M!leven is entirely framed through Will’s experience. He’s in every scene except their fight, his pain and misery over them is never not the focus. Literally never. We are not seeing the story of M!leven’s love, we are seeing the story of Will’s heartbreak.
Nothing else matters. Like in the most clinical story writing terms, Mike’s character is not going to find out that the person who made him feel the most loved & understood is in love with him and is the one who actually feels all these things about him that just happen to align with exactly what Mike needs to hear to embody the truest and best version of himself, and instead of realising he loves that character back, goes nah I’m good I’ll end up together forever with the person who whilst dating them I became someone I was not and also had terrible self-esteem—oh and also the relationship is insanely immature. It’s that simple. Whether or not Mike currently believes he loves El or currently wants to remain in a relationship is so so so irrelevant. Storytelling doesn’t care what the character thinks he wants, it cares about what the character needs!
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hellinhawkins · 2 months ago
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hot take but I don’t think that lucas or dustin (or anyone, for that matter, other than maybe robin) are going to see what’s going on between mike and will until it happens. they don’t suspect ANYTHING. when they actually get together everyone’s going to be shocked
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reineydraws · 2 years ago
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i have a soft spot for fics where billy sort of ends up adopting el and will alongside max. like, these are the kids that get dibs for rides in the camaro haha.
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euryleli · 4 months ago
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We, as a fandom, need to provide more band aus for byler!
I know we do have some but... I don't know about u guys because I could see myself reading a 1000 band aus and never getting tired
It's that serious to me!!
Also, Mike is always the rockstar (which... fair lol Finn has the aesthetic) but why not give Will Byers the chance to be the famous one and for Mike to be the fanboy -> what about two rival bands? Or maybe Mike auditions for a role in Will's band (and vice versa)
We need MORE, SO MUCH MORE!!!
THE POSSIBILITIES ARE ENDLESS
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spookystarfishzombie · 4 months ago
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messrsbyler · 2 years ago
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ted 100% meant will when he said "and no sweetie pie" if you even care
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gayofthefae · 2 months ago
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If season 2 were about El and Mike fighting to get back to each other they wouldn't have had El almost not come back.
If it were about Mike and El fighting to come back to each other, it wouldn't have been a decision whether or not should we would.
But she almost stayed in Chicago. And they made a point of her saying she went back for all of her friends, not just him, and for Hopper. She went back for Mike, Lucas, Dustin, and Hopper. It was played as big and loving. But it wasn't played as romantic. That wasn't her reasoning and missing Mike wasn't enough to bring her back in the first place.
In the first few episodes of the season, she fights with Hopper about not being able to see Mike. But as the season progresses, we find it isn't about that. It's about not being able to leave. She goes to Chicago and almost doesn't come back. There is a full stand alone episode about her maybe not coming back and she ALMOST STAYS.
If it were some big romantic payoff of their reunion, they would have simply had an obstacle they had to fight to overcome - like Hopper or the monsters or something. But instead, Mike was hoping she was alive and El was considering letting him come to terms with her death and living out her days with her sister in Chicago.
El almost never saw Mike again. It was a very close decision. She changed her mind last minute. It's valid and it remains loving, but in trope simply put...it isn't romantic.
"I almost never came back to you but I changed my mind" in the context of being separated against your will? Isn't romantic.
And similar is true in their separation in seasons 3 AND 4. She does not reach out after her time with Max. Granted maybe she would have, it was a short time, I will give that. But then she didn't get back together with him until the end of the epilogue to our knowledge. She did not run back to him in grief in need of comfort. She did not get back together with him for the familiarity even in that, she got back together with him to keep a piece of Hawkins. Her priorities would not have been the same of "wait and see if he says it" - and he could have done that in a relationship too, as we saw was an arc for him in season 4. Once again, she waited until the last minute - even almost walking away and leaving for Lenora - before coming back to him at the last possible second.
In season 4, then, she did not include him in her plans when escaping NINA. She only noted Max and her friends. Really, this re-established her priorities from season 2. Her intention was to return to all of her friends, to return to Hawkins, and to help her loved ones out of danger. Not to return specifically to him. When he was out of the equation, he was skipped over. She and Mike had a bad fight. And she still loved him just like she still loved her brothers who were also not mentioned, but her focus was only verbalized as being on Max and Hawkins. The original intention of her leaving was for Owens to take her back to Hawkins. She had zero knowledge that her family and Mike (and Argyle) were coming to get her. She thought they were back at the house in Lenora and that she was going straight to Hawkins and would call them once it was all finished. We have no knowledge that she was going to make a pitstop - unlikely given the stakes and distance between Nevada and Lenora.
In season 2, El almost stayed in Chicago. In season 3, El almost stayed broken up with Mike. In season 4, El almost went back to Hawkins without them - this decision being out of her control when it was changed.
Each and every time they are separated, El only makes the decision to reunite with Mike last minute after seeming to have intended to stay apart from him. Their reunions are always so sweet. But they are never her goal.
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She came back for Will.
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She came back in her grief over Hopper and leaving Hawkins.
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She came back for Max.
The key question ever time she reunites with Mike is: does the story stop there? Or does she do something very important next?
Mike always a sweet stop on her way to her goal. He is never "the point". He is a part of her life as many other people are. But he is not her life and he is not why she comes back.
#el hopper#anti milkvan#stranger things#el's independence#SHE. ALMOST. STAYED. IN. CHICAGO.#once again all the ga needs to do is let go of mike's desire for HER#hers has been flexible for a long time#he was waiting for her and she was contemplating staying in chicago. he was waiting for her and it was up to HER to take him back. he was#chasing after her and it was up to HER whether she forgave him or not#every single time without fail and every time the reaction i see is#he has to find or earn her back and if he doesn't it is her right to do what she wants#but he wants her so bad that if he wants her and she's indifferent then the story dictates they stay together#but if he doesn't want her#they're cut loose from the story as a couple#only one thing holds them together and it's something they've planted the distruction of for years.#as i've said in other posts#it's something that was set up to be broken down from the moment she said goodbye the first time. you didn't think so but he was becoming o#ay without her in certain ways too.#'el would be heartbroken if he left her for will' historically WRONG. all the ga needs to is to know that MIKE wouldn't be heartbroken if#they broke up. she was heartbroken from their fight but she was fine by the time the decision was just whether or not to stay apart#willel#platonic elmax#the hopper byers#the party#el and her boys#(they belong to her now she claimed them in season 1. she did the will byers thing where she was just so endearing to everyone she met that#they're hers forever now)
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bylertruther · 2 years ago
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mike accepting, loving, and celebrating will's otherness while rejecting his own is so . it's literally Soooooo like i can't see through my tears rn jgenuinely . he's so......... i can 't do this icant finish the post he's so . MICHAEL.............
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brionysea · 2 years ago
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getting some real "finding each other in vecna's mind palace" vibes from these two
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chirpsythismorning · 7 months ago
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The way fans on the st sub are almost all in agreement Nancy ending up with neither Jon nor Steve wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world, and how they can even come up with a sleuth of reasons as to why, honestly pretty valid and fair reasons, but then are absolutely gobsmacked when fans merely speculate something along those lines for El is, quite something.
#el hopper#byler#platonic elmike#stranger things#this is coming from someone who ADORED mileven in s1-2#I literally skipped all of s2 in my rewatch before s3 aired bc I just wanted to see their reunion#then s3 happened#and I was confused at#A LOT of ppl are#and anyone coming to voice that confusion is ran off Reddit like they’re committing a crime#like would it hurt y’all to have some of the same common sense you have for el like you do with Nancy#??#I am more jancy leaning but also I just feel like it’s certain stancy ain’t happening#but I’m also not totally against Nancy wanting to be on her own for a while#maybe they’d imply jancy Will find their way back to each other#maybe they’re teamed up in s5 and wait until the very end to cement that certainty for each other#but I would not hate their stories if Nancy and Jon decided to live their own lives#FOR THEMSELVES#Nancy doing what she wants and loves#Jonathan doing what he wants instead of just doing stuff that helps people around him#and I’m not going to even get into the reasons why el and mike would benefit from living for themselves outside of their relationship#the attachment to the ship is stronger than any sort of attachment to the character#and when the things keeping them together are not strong to begin with…#that attachment is doomed and hard to watch and enjoy like idgi at all#also; all the pro-ronance comments on there getting like 30+ likes??#go ronance I guess??!??#idk if it’s because they think byler actually has a serious possibility while ronance has less build up#so they can sort of play with that idea without actually having to take it seriously…#at least ronance has a positive audience on there#a win is a win I guess 😭🫡
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gay-mike-wheeler · 3 months ago
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something something the fact that almost all the canon couples are shown to be having issues/arguing in st3.
and you know who else is shown arguing?
will and mike.
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post-modern-prometheus · 1 year ago
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omgggg literally buffy au !!! with el as the slayer and she’s in these cute little outfits doing backflips and driving stakes into the hearts of vampires and complaining about her homework and the party just finding out one by one about everything. hop as the watcher 😭😭😭 henry is the Big Bad Vampire and RAHHHH will getting turned………. but they do the thing like angel and restore his soul so now he’s their cool vampire friend
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mikesbasementbeets · 2 years ago
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we'll be home soon...
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rotisseries · 2 years ago
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hey remember that era where every third byler post was about how s5 was gonna end with will and mike leaving hawkins together? yeah I hated that
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jonathanbyersphd · 1 year ago
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The wedding AU (which has a name maybe idk I'm between two) Can be summarized as "El is the only sibling with the braincell all weekend"
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