#Matespriteship

[felonsgenders]

✦ quadrant based attraction - a revamp

the quadrant system is a model of attraction created by the webcomic homestuck. while someone has already broken down the quadrants into facets of attraction here, we figured we would take our own stab at it! (with permission from the original creator of course!) this is meant for anyone interested in the concept, although it helps to have prior knowledge! if you find this attraction model appealing, a wikipedia page exists that explains it well here, but we'll be going in depth ourselves under the cut!

and now for a more in depth explanation of quadrants and each facet of attraction! as you can see, there are four quadrants - matespritship or matespritian (heart), moirallegiance or moirallegian (diamond), kismesissitude or kismesian (spade), and auspisticism or auspistian (club).

they're divided into two groups: red romance fueled by love/positive feelings, and black romance fueled by negative feelings/hate. you can have multiple people in one quadrant, or only one, the concept of quadrants is polyamorous by default, but some choose to have only one moirail, kismesis etc. you can also have different sexualities for different quadrants! for example: you could be a gay man who is exclusively in matespritships with men, but could be in a moirallegiance with anyone of any gender. you could also be in an auspisticism with multiple genders, this is because both moirallegiance and auspisticism are usually based on platonic feelings as opposed to romantic or sexual. this does not invalidate the person's status as a gay man, it's just how they would do quadrants!

flipping or "vacillating" between quadrants is a natural occurrence as well. the feelings you may have for someone can be complicated and if you feel you'd want to be moirails with someone as opposed to in a kismesissitude or any other form of vacillation it's just something to talk over with your quadmate!

now, specifics for each quadrant will be under the cut!

dni link

red romance -

matesprites: matespriteship is closest to what we know as traditional romance, it is love for another person romantically and being in a relationship with them. it is also known as the flush quadrant. it's an alternative to traditional romance in the sense that it's a few new terms for how we view romance. singular: matesprite informal: flushmate verbal: i'm in hearts with x, i'm flush for x symbol: <3, ♥

moirails: moirallegiance is equated better in human terms to queerplatonic relationships, and it's an incredibly important quadrant. it is important to note that while close to a queerplatonic human relationship, it is still a form of romance and should be treated as such. moirails keep each other stable and grounded, they are there to help one another and they are extremely close. they participate in moirail based activities such as feelings jams, sessions in which the moirails will vent or talk about their feelings with support from their moirail. there are also shoosh paps, in which you shoosh someone to calm them and pap them as well (a little pat to ground them). your moirail also checks over relationships you have, they are in charge of keeping you safe as you are in charge of keeping them safe, it is a mutual support system based on deep love for one another! moirallegiance is a conciliatory quadrant, meaning it is typically not a sexual relationship, but every moirallegiance is different and has different boundaries/ways of existing! it's not all the fluffiest stuff, you can always have banter with your moirail, as long as deep down you both know how much you both care for one another. in the end it's all about how YOU work with your relationships! singular: moirail informal: palemate/diamond verbal: i'm in diamonds with x, i'm pale for x symbol: <>, ♦

black romance -

kismesis: a kismesissitude is a relationship founded on mutual respect and hatred. usually a kismesis is accompanied by underlying sexual attraction but you can be any orientation and have a kismesis. there are of course different ways to be in a kismesis with someone, but the general concept is that you both hate each other in ways that will build the other up, the constant one uppage of the relationship forces either kismesis to try and be a better person than they once were, either to prove a point or to rub it in the face of their kismesis. the most important thing to remember though is a kismesis is founded on respect just as much as it is hatred. without respect, it could very quickly turn abusive, which is obviously not okay. when dealt with healthily, a kismesis is a very good quadrant to have, it stabilizes the rest of your quadrants by giving you someone who you can be angry with and at, someone who will be angry with and at you, and someone who will constantly challenge you as a person. there is often times lots of banter/snarky remarks. singular: kismesis informal: pitchmate/spade verbal: I'm in spades with x, I'm pitch for x symbol: <3<, ♠

auspistice: an auspisticism involves three people: two people who would be in a kismesis and one who mediates between them. the auspice is in charge of making sure two in a hypothetical kismesis don't get out of hand and harm each other or others around them, as its an entirely possible occurance. when you are an auspice it is your job to make sure that your pair stay in line, if they don't there could be dire consequences and people could get hurt. the auspice is the only one feeling ashen for the pair, as the pair are constantly attempting to be in a kismesissitude. there are often feelings of fond exasperation towards an auspice's pair.

singular: auspistice informal: ashenmate/clubs verbal: I'm in clubs with x, I'm ashen for x symbol: o8<, ♣

[lostryu]

I thought the Bechdel test was always about lesbians????

Yeah, it was coined by a lesbian and it loosely refers to the alienation to media that lesbians experience, especially when it comes to being able to imagine a character as a lesbian. My tag 'lesbophobia' on that post refers to the tags that O.P had screenshotted

[kabutoden]

have u done bug latula yet...

i hadnt!! here she is :)

[phemiec]

Yo congrats on the kid!!! Had no idea you were a parent lol

yea the government said 2012 homestucks aren’t allowed to reproduce but they haven’t caught my cringe gay ass yet 🖕😎🖕

[trollbreak]

Augh

[x-crowmancer-x]

Is there a name for hyperfixations but instead its hatred of a specific thing?

[garysprites]

sorry if this is a bother but umm!! jade and karkat holding hands in a matespriteship? maybe they could be looking at eachother too (and smiling) ^3^;

[thewertsearch]

@chaosorchestrator asked: John's heart-to-heart with Vriska about her killing of Tavros is one of my absolute favorite pieces of character writing in all of homestuck, and I've been really looking forward to you getting to it. Something about John just seems to bring out the best in Vriska. His availability to listen and willingness to try to understand is just what she needed in that moment. I'm neutral about Johnvris as a romantic ship, personally, but I definitely think they're well-suited to at least being friends. @martinkhall asked: John is probably the first time she's felt anything redder than a morailship that was STILL pretty damn black instead of pale red. Unless you count her seeing Nic Cage in Con Air who she couldn't actually INTERACT with. So yeah, something strange is happening here. It usually does when you feel that for the first time.You could also argue she had flushed feelings for Tavros at one point, but I'm pretty sure she started feeling pity for him instead of contempt and mistook THAT for matespriteship because it was the strongest most positive thing she'd ever felt for anyone at that point. @lilietsblog asked: At this point in time: thoughts on Vriska <> John? Anonymous asked: I think the reason Vriska's genuinely apologizing to John is because, for the first time probably, she's talking to someone who even after learning so much about her and even died because of her, still doesn't hate her

I never considered that John could function as a moirail towards Vriska. That's an idea with some legs to it - although, it highlights an issue with moirallegiance that I've touched on before.

In short, I'm not sure it's a good idea to rely on one single person to help you relax. That's a pretty tall order for anyone, and while I think John gels extremely well with Vriska, I don't think he could support her alone.

The ideal scenario would be for Vriska to be getting moirail-like support from a wide array of friends. The social construction of moirallegence arguably hurts trolls like Vriska, because it prevents them from being emotionally supported in this way by multiple people. That would be pale infidelity, wouldn't it?

That's a bit of a tangent, though. The bottom line is that John and Vriska make a good pair. I don't think I ship them romantically - not after what happened to Tavros - but I do think he's good for her.

I wouldn't want John to be the only one to truly support Vriska - but maybe he could be the first.

[hypoel]

There is so many more but I could only add 12 answers.

[davekat-sucks]

>Morons on Twitter claim Aranea and by the extension, the dancestors, are 1000 years old >Ghost don't age after they die in Dream Bubbles >Meenah by Epilogues after being revived, would be 19 again >Karkat by end of base webcomic is said to be 20 >21 if you count Epilogues >15 years had passed within Candy during the war >Karkat = 36, Meenah = 34 >They are technically legal >Even if Meenah was 1000+ years old, Karkat is now a legal adult So which is it? Do ghosts age after they died? Doesn't that mean even if Nepeta or Eridan died at 13, they are suddenly 19-20 years old by the time they could be brought back by end of base webcomic? Does that mean Karkat is in a matespriteship with a 1k year old granny bitch? Or is it fine since Karkat is legal to date said one thousand year old? Meenah in Beyond Canon clearly looks old enough to be close to Karkat's age, even with her long lifespan. Karkat couldn't be 36 years old and then meet up with a 19 year old Meenah in Candy. Then it means Meenah should look younger in Beyond canon. The war was still going on since Vrissy was around to meet Vriska too.

Why does HS fandom care about their age when you know Homestuck as a series has many other problematic topics and themes, that age gap shouldn't be a big surprise?

[ultra-raging-ghost]

tubbos in a kismesis w half the federation

Tubbo's kismesis with more specifically agent 18, he's got a matespriteship going on with fred <33 and ofc agent 18's got that flush crush pining for foolish going on too..... but thats for another post hehe

[borgerrat]

HERE ARE MY HOMESTUCK OCS 💥💥💥

But quickly, some world building!!! These guys are from the Alpha universe, not the timeline!!! [at least besides the dancestor] Things are pretty much the same as in the Beta universe [cannon] besides the editions of my lil guys!!!!!!!

[all of them are the sign Gemcen]

UP FIRST IS.......

THYZED CYABRI

ok sooo thyzed is the LEAST developed outta these guys despite being the beta timeline one!!! He's pretty stuck up, kinda a bitch, and generally not the nicest. He, despite being part of the beta trolls, doesn't really think he needs any of his friends, hence his role as the Prince of Blood!!!

He's loud and thinks he's better than everyone else, but is really the most self esteemless troll ever! Gamzee once convinced him to do Sopor and he ended up a crying sobbing mess and was handed over to Aradia to deal with since she was really the only one who didn't want him dead!

His lack of care for his "friends" ended up being the death of him as he watched Gamzee kill Nepeta and Equius, instead of helping Nepeta, he hid and was killed soon after 💥💥💥

NEXT UP...

DASHOR CYABRI

Dashor is so silly :D He started as my most developed!!! So..... Pretty much, Dashor is very chill and quiet and just trying to help!! he does not want to cause problems and is a huge suck up!! He has a huge fucking red crush on Kankri, a mild black crush on Cronus, and is in a moirailigance with Mituna!! He's pretty chill with everyone and tries to parent Thyzed in the bubbles!! He doesn't make any advances on Kankri because of his celibacy, and Cronus... Cronus because he's Cronus, and he doesn't want to mess up his relationship with Mituna ^^;-;^^

He, due to his quiet nature, doesn't come off of how he really is. If you actually look at him and watch how he talks to people, he's pretty... Manipulative, but he constantly tries to justify it in his head. He truly doesn't mean to be Manipulative, but it's a natural thing for him and he's very persuasive, therefore his role as the Thief of Blood!

Overall, chill dude but is a bit of a bitch when u really think.of it 💥💥💥

AND FINALLY...

THE KEEPER

OK!!! SO!!! HES THE MOST DEVELOPED!!! This is The Keeper!!!!! He, pretty much, was very simply A GuyTM. He is VERY SILLY!! He pretty much was similar to the Dolorosa, but was more picky about who he chose to care about, he had no alligances and would pretty much protect anyone in need for as long as they need, but the moment they were ok enough to be on their own, he'd kick them out and move onto the next. He had no care about having to kill anyone.

He constantly denounced having any quadrants and hating the idea of being in one and someone's anything. But, he had a secret matespriteship with The Handmaid and he was a fucking SIMP. He also had a practical moirailigance with Orphaner Dualscar!!!

[cannoliparty]

quadrants explained!

quadrants are a fun and (compared to homestuck's other elements) simpler element in the comic. personally, i find them intriguing but i dont really make any pairings with them unfortunately :( atleast theyre fun to explain!! so here we are ^_^

overview

the quadrants are the ways trolls experience romantic attraction to eachother, and what their relationships are based off of. these 4 quadrants are as follows:

matespriteship <3

moirallegiance <>

kismessitude <3<

auspiticism c3<

keep in mind ALL these quadrants are a form of dating, whether feelings are of love, hate, pacifism, etc.

(note: i looove the detail of these quadrants having little text symbols like earth's own romance (<3)!! its clever and makes troll romance seem even more realistic)

in a more literal sense, the quadrants obviously take a liking to the 4 suits in a deck of cards. this plays into the theme of "bar games", with the pool motif of the felt/lord english being another example.

quadrants can be sorted into 4 sections:

red romance: <3 and <>

black romance: <3< and c3<

concupiscent: <3 and <3<

conciliatory: <> and c3<

quadrants

matespriteship <3

this is (probably) the easiest to understand between the 4 - because matespriteship is the same to human romantic attraction. trolls will feel deep respect and adoration stemming from attributes of their matesprite, and this is a positive connection.

moirallegiance <>

moirallegience can be closely described as "platonic soulmates" - but keep in mind this is still regarded as a way of romance and dating!

moirails look out for eachother. they are the first person you confide in, as you are to your moirail. they help eachother in pacifying emotions, and keeping the other calm. theyre mostly necessary because of the violent practices in troll society, and moirails help tone down their partner's violent tendencies and general negative emotions.

an example is karkat & gamzee: at first gamzee carried out the duty of pacifying karkat's loud anger, but later the jobs flipped and karkat had to calm gamzee down from his own murder-spree.

all this pacifying is done through "shoosh-papping" which i feel is just homestuck's funny way of communicating how trolls calm eachother down as moirails: through physical comfort. overall, moirails know how to keep eachother in check aswell as always support and be there for eachother, whether its over their rage, their sadness over a quadrant, or their all-out violent thoughts.

kismessitude <3<

kismessitude is a form of romance that perfectly resembles the violent society trolls are in. it is best described as a rivalry, with a deep hatred for your kismesis. but regardless, this hatred and the quadrant in general is rooted in a deep admiration for the qualities and/or feats of the kismesis, and its just that that makes the quadrant a form of romance and not animalistic violence.

but thats why its normal for a kismessitude to be pretty violent. you hate eachother, after all. and with this deep hatred combined with alternia's normalized violence, something's bound to happen, and fights will break out indefinitely.

although, often kismessitude can be too violent for its own good. an example being when the rivalry and hatred for eachother is too strong and you can end up culling eachother is when a 3rd person (and the 4th quadrant!) must step in.

auspisticism c3<

this quadrant is only present in kismessitudes, but not all kismessitudes have/need an austpistice. the auspistice is the mediator of a kismessitude for when it gets too violent, and someone else needs to step in and calm both/either of the parties down. its to make sure the rivalry remains healthy & balanced, aswell as keeping the pair away from culling eachother, because otherwise then its not dating, and just plain hatred.

of course, auspiticism comes in different forms. the most prominent example is kanaya in a (albeit strange) kismessitude between vriska & tavros. kanaya would mediate and talk to vriska, keeping her away from getting too heated/over the top and straight-up culling tavros. this is an example of when an auspistice is needed for only one overly-violent party member of the kismessitude, but austpisticism can be especially taxing when both parties are overheated in hatred & violence.

categories

now that all quadrants have been established, we can go further in-depth with their categories.

red romance

matespriteship & moirallegiance are in this category! this is because of the non-violent elements in both of these quadrants, as one is positively romantic and the other is used to pacify negative thoughts.

black romance

this category contains kismessitude & auspisticism. this is due to the hateful nature in these romances, whether the parties are mutually hating or it's a 3rd party who must step in on the hate.

concupiscent

matespriteship & kismessitude are in this category. theyre here because they are the only 2 required for troll reproduction.

conciliatory

this category has moirallegiance & auspisticism. theyre here because theyre the other 2 that don't have any reproductive activities and are mostly used for pacifying/mediating. sometimes because of the lack of reproduction people dont view these quadrants as equally romantic as the concupiscent ones, but theyre still a form of dating and romantic bonds!

conclusion

overall, quadrants are fun! whether you come up with your own pairings that arent the basic matespriteship or not, i personally find them fun to analyze/look over nonetheless. feel free to comment quadrant-related things such as more in-depth discoveries or your own troll romance pairings in homestuck!! ^3^

[paragonrobits]

homestuck fandom things i dislike, when people describe a troll romance with 'love beyond the quadrants' and its literally just romantic love as if its something incomprehensible or surreal to trolls despite our literal introduction to the quadrants outright saying that redrom/matespriteship is romantic love as humans would understand it, in all the variances we would recognize as romantic love

trolls have a term for romance as humans know it. its called matespriteship. i dont understand how a lot of people in the fandom came to assume that its something foreign to trolls

[healingpuppys]

:33 < HAIIII !! IM SORRY, ITZ NEP AGAIN !! F33L FR33 TO IGNORE THIS !! IF MOODBOARD REQUESTS ARE OPEN, COULD I PURRL33SE GET A LESBIAN/SAPPHIC/QUEER (EITHER OF THOSE IS FINE) AGE/PETRE (EITHER/BOTH IS FINE ^.^) NEPETA FURROM HOMESTUCK MOODBOARD WITH CG BUTCH TEREZI WITH MAYBE SOME THEMES OF MATESPRITESHIP/TROLL ROMANCE AND COLOURS OF PINK OR SAGE GREEN AND TURQUOISE ?? ALSO MAYBE SOME THEMES OF DRAGONS, SCENE AESTHETIC AND CATZ !! NOT FORCED THOUGH, IF I NEED TO GO KNTO MORE DETAIL LET ME KNOW !! DO THIS ONLY IF YOU WANT, THANKZ SO MUCH IN ADVANCE !!!! :33 x3c

- @nep-on-pawz

ofc here ya go!!

lesbian/saphic CG! terezi and agere/petre nepeta moodboard

art by: unknown

☆ Requests: Closed ☆

[tavtiers]

quadrants and/or song recs for a mage of mind?

♥ Matespriteship: Witch of Doom, Witch of Time, Seer of Doom, Witch of Blood, Seer of Time, Prince of Doom, Seer of Blood, Prince of Time, Maid of Doom, Prince of Blood, Maid of Time, Maid of Blood

♦ Moirallegiance: Page of Light, Maid of Light

♠ Kismesissitude: Prince of Breath, Prince of Space, Prince of Rage

♣ Auspisticism: n/a

Songs for a Mage of Mind:

La Luna by Deafinition

Song Title Unknown

Warsaw by Dessa

Thoughts Pt. 1 by Spock's Beard

Migraine by Twenty One Pilots

An Awful Thing to Waste by Supertramp

Hope this helps!