#Mars in 12th house

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✩ Aquarius and pisces moon's can get annoyed with others for no reason, they might even beat themselves up over it. I’ve noticed with these individuals (unless strong 4H placements are involved or cancer) that they tend to not like people who are constantly in their vicinity 24/7, especially friends or lovers, these people rlly enjoy their personal space and alone time so they recharge their social battery as well as their tolerance for others.

✩ Aqua and Pisces moons may also feel that they can’t be their real selves around others, this authentic version of them may only truly be revealed to family members or a very close friend or lover. This could also add to the need to be alone as they could feel no one will ever understand them, their mind, mannerisms and behaviour. It’s like they want someone to pick apart their brain and understand who they are at their core but at the same time they’re afraid of letting others into their internal world.

✩ North Node in the 7th house seems like a difficult placement for the NN to be in. NN in the 1st house would symbolise finding your direction in life independently, therefore being encouraged to rely on oneself. North Node in the 7th house is quite the opposite, in the worst cases, I've seen it manifest in individuals who feel like they're incomplete without a romantic life partner and never properly heal, jumping from one person to the next in order to not be alone. Positively, this placement can indicate being encouraged to work with other people and to develop deep connections to others as with SN in the 1st, you may be more inclined to do things your way. NN in the 7th pushes you in the direction of compromise and balance within relationships.

✩ Chiron and Neptune in the 3rd house can indicate troubles with speaking (speech impediment, afraid of speaking in front of a group of people etc).

✩ Chiron and Neptune in the 3rd can also show early childhood bullying or being purposefully left out/made fun of by other kids your age. I've seen quite a few people with this placement deal with this, and years later they develop social anxiety and in worst cases agoraphobia :(

✩ Going back to the first point of Chiron/Neptune- they may have felt stupid or "slower" than other kids their age when it came to school further adding to the sense of unease and anxiety when it comes to school or dealing with their peers.

✩P.S I love you Chiron/Neptune in 3H individuals ❤️, yall are so strong and you are smarter than you realise 🙏

✩Venus/Sun/Moon/Mars in the 5th house start getting into/doing more creative hobbies. Idc if it's music, writing, poems, acting, knitting, painting, dancing, fashion hell even sculpting and becoming a DJ, JUST DO ITTT. Trust you are blessed with a mind that inclines to the creative side, use this please esp if the moon is in the 5th house it will heal your inner child. Mars here could show you feeling energised from creative pursuits and hobbies, a creative career could be well-suited. Even if you don't pursue a creative career, or (from what some of these people have told me 😭) don't consider yourself creative, do anything where you can add your own twist and opinion to it. Even if you don't think so or see it yourself, others will definitely be able to see the emotion/innovation/vision in whatever you create.

✩Having a lot of placements in the lower hemisphere of the chart especially the 4th house can indicate having an introverted personality.

✩ Furthermore, this can also indicate an individual who has a lot of layers, and it takes a while to get them out of their shell. This or they choose who they want to see the real them, no matter the years you've known them or the closeness.

✩Martian ruled 12H (Scorpio/Aries) or Mars in the 12H can indicate having wild ass dreams. Might involve a lot of fighting, and chasing, honestly it's giving war-zone. Your dreams could be very, very vivid too.

✩ Martian-ruled 12H or Mars in the 12H can also indicate repressing your anger a lot. This could stem from childhood trauma and with Taurus/Sag in the first (Whole signs), you could've felt bad expressing your anger, being taught it's not a good thing to show outward. With Taurus in the 1st this could show developing a put-together and calm demeanor since a young age and not wanting to break that peace wall you have built up. With Sag in the 1st this could show wanting to or being taught to come across as happy all the time or only being positive. Sometimes I've even noticed these individuals would rather come across as wild, carefree and happy than ever admit or show their more...plotting side 😈 (scorpio12H)..ig you could say LMAO.

✩Saturn in the 6H could show an individual needing a routine to keep them mentally in check and sane. Without one, they may feel like their whole life is crumbling right in front of them.

✩9H/3H placements can get on with anyoneee I swear. Even if they don't think so or if they are more introverted in nature, others just feel they give off this carefree, relaxed vibe making it easier for conversation and getting to know them. (Unless there's like Pluto on the Ascendant lol or sumn, this placement by itself tho does give off carefree knowledgeable energy).

✩Venus conj Saturn can show your boundaries constantly being tested and the universe sending you the same people in a different font, testing your ability to blindly love others until you get it straight lolll.

✩Saturn conj Venus can also show; dating/attracting older people, those who fuck with you romantically get screwed over eventually #karma, and or being serious about love like only wanting/pursuing relationships that are long-term.

✩Saturn conj Venus can also indicate meeting your "true love" later on in life, and by later I mean whatever point in time it is societally deemed 'oh that's very late to get married' blah blah.

✩These individuals could also just have good standards for what they want from their partner/future spouse (love that for you guys)

✩Back to NN in the 1st, stop serving other people and be of service to yourself!! It's okay to be selfish sometimes.

✩Uranus in the 1H, Aqua asc, yall weird 🤓. You already know that but I just felt the need to reiterate it, love all your little quirks and hyperfixations tho ❤️

✩Mars in the 11H be up to some crazy stuff in the bedroom (notice the Aquarian themes here)

✩Saturn overlaying the 4th house in synastry, 4th house person may feel like the Saturn individual is their 4lifer and can see them staying in their life long-term.

✩Not an observation just a personal opinion, I love people's charts where their planets sprinkle EVERYWHERE in the chart, it's so cool IMO and these people tend to be very balanced and have knowledge on all areas of life. I also don't know why but these charts are rare for me to find. Individuals who have planets in nine different houses is crazy I wanna see your chart.

PS- The astrovations are so back 🙏

ღAll my notes are personal observations and thoughts. I am not a professional astrologer and like to have a sense of whimsy in my life by looking at peoples charts, thankyou.

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SYNASTRY OBSERVATIONS 2

Accuracy influenced by entire natal chart. This is NOT a person read. Looking at only aspect or placement will only give general information.

Lilith conjunct ASC:

Strong attraction. A forbidden kind of attraction. Could be due to many reasons. Possible examples:

One is significantly older, One is already in a relationship at the time of meeting, One could be a coworker or person in authority.

Chiron conjunct ASC:

Chiron person could be triggered by ASC person. Due to their lifestyle, attitude or approach to life.

For EX, let’s say this occurs in the sign of gemini. This sign is typically fast, curious and communicative. The chiron person may have grown up misunderstood their entire lives. They struggle to communicate and/or be understood effectively. The ASC gemini person likely has a fast thinking, fast moving way of life. They’re curious, bore easily and move onto the next topic fast. If the ASC gemini person isn’t willing to slow down, they risk hurting chiron. As chiron may not feel they mix well with ASC person’s lifestyle.

Chiron conjunct Venus:

An amazing placement especially if the man is venus. Venus’s natural way of expressing love can heal chiron.

I’ve seen this happen in the sign of Capricorn. In past relationships, chiron questioned whether they were enough. Their ex critiqued them and negatively compared them to other women.

In their marriage with a Venus Cap, they feel absolutely appreciated and admired.

Sun conjunct Venus:

The couple above also has this aspect. The woman is a Cap sun, she naturally has the traits this Venus Cap desires in a wife. The Venus Cap often talks highly about her. He tells her and others he can’t believe she even exists because she is his dream girl. He has said before he’s shocked someone so perfect would be with him. This aspect can be a good ego boost for the Venus person.

Venus conjunct Jupiter:

Really positive. When these two are together there is an abundance of love and joy. A good marriage/long term connection indicator. It’s hard to resist each other because of the good times/feelings you have when together.

The only downside, these two may overindulge too much when together. Leading to enabling behaviour. Possibly overspending and overdoing.

So while it can be good, 2 times I’ve seen this as Jupiter feeling drained in the end. They poured so much into Venus to keep them happy but Venus never felt satisfied/always desired more. The other 1 time I’ve known a couple with this aspect, it resulted in marriage. I believe this aspect may work better when Jupiter is the man & Venus is the woman.

Chiron conjunct Chiron:

This can manifest as bonding over similarities in your past struggles. However, if both are not in a matured stage of life, they may trigger each other. Bringing out the worst behaviours in each other.

Moon Square Moon:

This could create tension that leads to passion. Scorpio and fire sign venus may enjoy this aspect in their relationships. However, it may lead to emotional pain. Both could struggle to understand & properly care for the other.

Aries Moon Square Cancer Moon:

This is particularly difficult from what I’ve seen. The aries moon felt the cancer moon is “weak” and “overly sensitive”. The aries moon expresses passion in a more aggressive & teasing manner. The cancer moon, especially if they don’t have fire sign placements, could be hurt by this. They don’t understand and/or like the way aries moon’s expresses themselves.

COMPOSITE CHART OBSERVATIONS:

MC conjunct Uranus: To outsiders, the relationship feels unstable. The relationship may have on and off stages.

Mars in 12th. Generally, this isn’t a good placement. Indicates hidden resentment. One person likely does not fully understand the reason for the other’s anger/frustration.

- I’ve seen this manifest as a woman who many bad experiences with men in the past. This made her untrusting of her boyfriend. She feels past experiences made her take some frustrations out on her boyfriend. He did not fully understand her angry outbursts since he wasn’t doing anything wrong.

Moon in 12th. A positive manifestation is knowing what the other needs subconsciously. You are in tune with each other’s feelings on a deeper level.

A negative manifestation is one person’s emotional needs are not being met. For this reason, they are unable to feel comfortable and properly loved.

2nd house ruler in 12th. In my opinion, this is the worst to have. This suggests one’s ability to feel secure is lost. Trust does not come easy. Communication needs to be strong to overcome this placement.

12th H Libra

12th can reveal what may potentially break the couple up or be a hidden problem in the relationship. By hidden I mean issues that are repressed or a sub conscious issue.

In the sign of Libra, inability to compromise, inability to peacefully resolve problems and inability to be make decisions together could be a problem.

Venus in 12th H

The couple may struggle with emotional intimacy. The physical is easy and enjoyable but emotionally opening up is not.

This can indicate a relationship where for some reason the couple hides their love when in front of people. And/Or they hide their true feelings from each other.

This is a tricky placement. While the two are interested in one another, creating a harmonious connection is not easy. Peace is disrupted. The couple can be chaotic.

Jupiter in 12th H

This is actually positive in my experience. The couple has luck on their side to solve any issues. However, luck may not be enough to save the connection if it turns sour. Yet, there will be many opportunities to resolve their problems. The two have a genuine desire to fight for one another. The two can understand each other on an intuitive level. You just get each other.

Example: This is actually my friend’s observation. She observed in the composite of her parents, Jupiter and Venus are in conjunction in 12th H. She told me her parents have had a lot of struggles but remain happily together. There is an abundance of love.

Her mom once told her, her and her dad were literally made for one another. No matter what problems arises only the two of them will be able to help one another. No one else will be able to understand them.

Some astrologers say Venus is the wife and Jupiter is the husband so when conjunct in composite, it can be that saving grace placement.

Sun in First House

The relationship can be the main focus of your life. This can be good or bad. It’s not healthy to cut off your own personal life to cater to one person. But if you can maintain your own identities, this should be a good placement.

I’ve noticed when this is in composite the couple can become known for the relationship. Especially, if Sun is the 10th H ruler and/or if the 10th H has many planets.

Mars in First House

There can be a lot of energy in this relationship. Arguments are bound to happen in any relationship but for this one in particular there will be many. If you are two people who are good at resolving issues and kind of enjoy a more chaotic dynamic, this can work out well.

However, if you don’t like your peace disrupted and fights make you uneasy, this is not a good indicator for a relationship.

You may become known for being “that couple”. Good or bad. Depending on whether people find out about your fights.

Mercury in First House

You don’t fear judgement when together. You can talk about anything and everything. This is a good indicator. A couple that never runs out of things to talk about. It isn’t necessarily a romantic or sexual indicator. So if not supported by other placements in the chart, this can be a relationship where the spark dies out quickly. Better off as friends kind of relationship.

Uranus & Neptune in 4th H

This relationship has a rocky foundation. You may love the idea of what can be more than what is happening. Fantasizing about how you’ll become a better couple when in reality it’s not going so well.

This can be an on and off connection. Whether you are together and committed to one another is not always clear.

However, the positive manifestation is you both value freedom. You have mutual respect for one another. You may have a non traditional start to the connection. The two may constantly move around. You may have to leave home throughout your lives. Not necessarily negative it could be possibly due to work.

[444shayyy]

12h synastry is just so hard man one moment I miss this man and I'm finally ready to forgive him for the treatment and trauma but it's like my spirit guides immediately bring up every horrible moment and are asking "are you sure about that?" And then I just never know if I'll ever be able to truly forgive without immediately thinking about the past hurt, trauma and lies or just being angry again for what ever has happened.

[sapionic]

The 12th House In Astrology (2024)

Ok, so I just had an epiphany based on a transit and have come to realize that the 12th house can be considered when something happens last minute. Having 12th house placements means that you let those particular things pile up. 2 examples of the 12th house natal placement Moon in the 12th house natally-emotional pile and last minute emotional release. This is why 12th house moons can seem emotional, because the emotions are being felt, but not released right away. It's like filling up a balloon with water. Venus in the 12th house natally-they may let things pile up around them of value whether it be dishes, clothes, or anything,romantic pile up. Might like or love someone, but may not be convincing right away. This can also cause other people to consider them romantically when it is "too late" or almost too late. 2 examples of the 12th house transit Venus in the 12th house - something is piling up. this can be laundry pile ups, romantic pile ups or any material pileup that needs to be handled. How it plays out can vary because there can be pile ups due to shopping or due to maintenance. Transiting aspects will bring it together. Mars in the 12th house - build up of anger or action/waiting til the last minute to do something.

[astrologylife1]

Mars in 12th observation 🔥❤️‍🔥

- this placement can wake up mentally but physically can’t make it out of bed. The 12th house is bed pleasures and represents losses. Well with mars being here our physical body tends to loss its agility and strength for no reason at all.

-idk if it’s just me but I don’t have a problem with conflict or aggression. But something I do have with this placement is “fear” of looking angry. When I see the expression of real anger of passion or rage I almost scare myself. Lol I don’t want to be seen as “evil” and that is something I relate to anger. So most imes I keep it cool as much as possible.

-mars being in the 12h of ethereal vision, godlike energy and unconditional love is it wrong to associate the negative energy with “evilness”?

-this placement we like to make moves unexpectedly or sudden.

-when it comes to sex it can be amazing with these natives but notice again the physical agility dies down after orgasm..

Let me know your thoughts!!

[plutonian-moon]

how it is to having 12h stellium/being 12th houser ? + my experience with it ! ミ☆° ♱⋰

writing this as an 12th houser myself ! ⋆ ˚｡⋆୨୧˚ ☆°

!! remember that most of this gonna be my personal experience but also what i observe with others peoples who r 12th housers so if u will not resonate with it and u r 12th houser too then thats okay everyone experience is different keep it in mind ☆° ✮♱��� !! ☆° !!

▪ we can often feel misunderstood by others as if we are talking to someone but we don't really feel that the other person understands us we can talk to someone and suddenly someone interrupts us, feeling ignored and alone even around a large number of people around us can be something we struggle so much, apart from the feeling of alienation and loneliness and not knowing who we rlly are, sometimes we look in the mirror but we have a blurred image of ourselves as if we were but we were not.. ‧₊˚✩彡

▪we easily attract vampire energy and people who want to take advantage of us and suck all the good energy out of us, we are often unaware that we are giving too much to the bad people until it is too late and we become exhausted but not only these people make us feel overwhelmed.. the presence of other people in most degrees makes us feel overwhelmed ‧₊˚✩彡

▪peoples dont rlly know us we tend to take the form of a chameleon that fits into the character of people depending on who we r with atm not to mention that we feel things very easily, we simply feel that something or someone is not right we have a natural intuition which practically always confirms itself, and bc a lot of energy of people overwhelms us we find more comfort in being alone.. yk know what its like to know something but not know how we know something we just feel that we know without knowing how?? it is the influence of the energy of the 12th house that most likely makes manifesting something so easy for us so we have to be careful with our thoughts .. our subconscious also sends us signs that we can look for in dreams yes in dreams bc we can have them very realistic to such an extent that waking up crying in the morning can be a natural thing for us! often our dreams can also give us warnings and can manifest in real life ‧₊˚✩

▪when it comes to relationships with others, we can often meet people who at first it may seem that we have a great connection and then these people suddenly disappear from our lives it happens that the universe often tests us by giving us punishable relationships .. as the 12th house rules hidden enemies we can have many just people who will pretend to like us also attracting people who r going through a difficult life or struggling with substance abuse, mental health etc we can often meet these types of peoples bc they need healing in some way .. peoples will ask us about various kinds of advice bc others see us as a person who has been through a lot even with a lot of energy of the 12th house we often have quite hard experiences in various aspects of life (family home, relationships / friendships, etc.) ‧₊˚✩彡

▪ others have hard time seeing our personality its can be alot of confusing here bc thats what doing neptune. we r giving to others energy and personality that differs in reality from who we rlly r, which is a burden for us bc we often get lost in who we are, we often feel empty and lost, which leads to isolation with the energy of the 12th house, people generally trust us easily and can easily share their life experiences and secrets to us very easly! as our energy is very noticeable even if we don't want it and even if we are not aware of it, often others can know we are having a bad day, we r sad or smth is just wrong as we tend to wear our emotions on our face ‧₊˚✩彡

▪we r looking for deep spiritual and thelephatic connection with someone and most of the time we have so many deep connections its can be with our lovers, friends etc! ‧₊˚✩彡

▪idk if this is only me but when i am for example at an party and i feel that something or someone is draining my energy i need to leave and be alone to process my feelings and mind .. or just random i will leave something to just be with myself bc there is too many peoples ‧₊˚✩彡

▪sometimes i random disappear from social media, and i cant explain why but its happen alot idk if others 12th houser are like this too but yea ‧₊˚✩彡

▪we tend to have hidden enemies .. like we can feel bad energy from this person but we also hmm cant explain why we get this bad energy, we can feel something but we can have hard time explain whyy we feel this way and most of the time our intuition is very good about peoples and our friends/lovers even someone from families can easly becomes enemies ! so we need to be careful with peoples bc not everyone will have good intentions to us ! ‧₊˚✩彡

▪12th housers bc its pisces house right we tend to stucks in the past and not focusing on this moment that is here ‧₊˚✩彡

▪attracting peoples with addictions + mental health issues etc is very common ! also we giveee aloottt to the wrong peoples we can be very overgiving but others dont give us the same energy as we give ‧₊˚✩彡

▪we can have lack of boundries in friendships, love etc .. ‧₊˚✩彡

▪another thing that i wanna say is that we can have alot of proprethic dreams that can manifest into our life ! also we are easly manifesting what we think about : ‧₊˚✩

▪we tend to be very gifted with many talents so many of us have even hidden talenets ! alot of 12th housers r attracted 2 astrology, numerology, mbti, psychology, criminology, drawing etc ! so thats why u see alot of 12th housers who are astrologers ! also musicans and artistics gifts can be rlly very strong !! ‧₊˚✩彡

▪12th house also talks about escaping so with having 12th house placements we tend to escaping alot of the time and in many forms for example (escaping in form of listening 2 music, sleeping, going into walk by urself, even in some cases escaping in form of substance abuse) ‧₊˚✩彡

▪most peoples dont want the best for us and might talk random shits about us behind back, there are peoples here that gonna be jealous of us and they will want to destroy us in the most subtele way bc its 12th house so hidden enemies u cant see them .. !! its opposition to 7th house that rules open enemies so keep it in mind !! ‧₊˚✩彡

▪bc of having the energy of the 12th house we may have difficulty letting go of the past, therefore we tend to stay in relationships / situations that are bad and toxic for us and are causing pain bc we can get too attached to others, also most of us have difficulty cutting off from toxic peoples or they will keep coming back to us even if we cut them off from our live, as if they were returning because we didn't learn the lessons they came to us with, also we may have difficulty setting the boundary between the other person and often we are a therapist for most peoples, and others can easly vent to us and expect advice and help from us which can have also bad side peoples often can even abuse us and expecting too much so we can feel very overwhelmed and we can feel that we want to help everyone but in fact we realize that we dont recognive the energy that we give so we want to cut ourselves off from everyone and just disappear ‧₊˚✩彡

▪we have an issues with putting urself our needs at first bc we put others in the first place, which again can exhausts us mentally + emotionally ‧₊˚✩彡

▪very often peoples can cross our borders, an example of this may be that the person we offer something refuses the first time, the second time, the third time, etc and this person still puts pressure on us to go somewhere that we don't want to go ‧₊˚✩彡

▪we can have experiences in the past with paranormal things or we can feel the presence of someone, etc. we can very easily feel the energy, be it people or something else, it doesn't matter, we just have this ability and at the same time we are equally sensitive to some energies so we need to isolate ourselves from others and be alone, listen to music, calm down or go to sleep, do a self care routine, take a bath or anything that will make us happy or calm us down! ‧₊˚✩彡

▪as the 12th house also rules karma, we can attract karmic relationships that teach us earlier I mentioned this a bit earlier but also the point is that people who hurt us can quickly get their karma whether it's about relationships or other aspects of their lives they just get their karma sooner or later ‧₊˚✩彡

▪ want to mention is hospitals, water and mental health problems so the topic is not very interesting but we have to keep that in mind the fact that the 12th house is a hard house in astrology so it will also talk about more difficult things anyways going to the topic : the 12th house rules hospitals, water and mental health problems so peoples who are 12th houser may have either fear before being in the hospital or fear of water / swimming due to previous unpleasant events related to it or it just scares them for some unexplained reason as for mental health problems people with a strong influence of the 12th house can often struggle with mental health problems, whether with strong fears, paranoia, hallucinations or with severe depression, dissociation (derealization/depersonalization) etc ₊˚✩彡

▪when it comes to childhood and family because i want to mention that most of us didn't have the most colorful one often in childhood we could feel misunderstood, abandoned and we could get little support/love/attention just the care everyone deserves therefore, the consequences of this are that we often get into unhealthy relationships because even if they are unhealthy, this person can give us attention, and since we missed him, we will ignore who this person is just because (depending on whether we know that we are ignoring on purpose or not ) if we cut off contact with this person, we will be left without attention, which we may miss a lot, in general, we tend to idealize people who are not worth it and we are mostly blind to the red flags that someone is having. we could also have parents who were not present or one of the parents was not or was but was not physically or emotionally present ‧₊˚✩彡

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[littledamadelfuego]

Hello! I hope you can answer my question. What do you think of these placements in synastry: my Venus and Mars being in someone’s 12th house. The relationship was romantic and sexual but we don’t talk anymore and haven’t for about 2 years.

Hello,

I am sorry to be responding to this so late-- I am in my last semester of grad school and this is the first weekend I've had free in a while-- so thank you for your patience first of all.

Secondly, I think this speaks to how impactful 12H synastry can be. Oftentimes, we have karmic relationships with these people, and they can certainly be hard to forget.

I want to make a full post on Venus in the 12H specifically, but I know many like to refer to the 12H as unrequited, but once more, no house synastry alone can cause unrequited love, and especially not the 12H the longest lasting couple I know one of the partners has a stellium in the other's 12H. However, I refer to 12H synastry more as unrealized, there may be something in the way that keeps you from being together for the long-term (I usually want to see 6H or 1H synastry to provide longevity when there is 12H synastry, otherwise this person may simply be a lesson for you), but it doesn't mean that the feelings aren't mutual, just that there is something standing in the way of the feelings being able to be fully expressed towards one another.

12H Mars can indicate intuitively understanding the others physical needs and that can be addicting! 12H Mars can also be a dangerous synastry, I have seen this be obsessive in several instances.

I think with that said, it's important to say that this is a situation that will no doubt be impactful. You likely understood this person in a way they haven't been able to access before, but understand that there is a karmic level to this relationship and the person may always hold a special place in your story, but the 12H can make feelings murky.

More than likely, the other person has no idea that you are still thinking about them (their 12H is unseen to them after all), and they may have been unaware of (or just simply misunderstood) your feelings throughout the relationship.

Honestly, I'm unsure of exactly the type of answer to provide here for you, I would like to know a bit more about how your Venus & Mars are aspecting their planets.

But I hope this was helpful for what you are looking for!

[astroariska]

THE LESSON FROM 12TH HOUSE PROFECTION YEAR (AS A CAPRICORN RISING)

I've got my own karma.

When i was a school students, i was getting bullied by my teacher because my rebellion issue. I did that because i experienced some abandonment and neglect from my parents (and also physical harm). My parents were young, broke and unskilled on parenting. So, i was growing up as a troublemaker.

It's not like i was being a troublemaker because i did teenager shit like smoking, drinking, underage sex, or etc. I was being a troublemaker because i was a smart kid back then who couldn't stop myself to questioning things and when people had no idea or any answer that satisfy me. i consider that are incompetence. It turns me into someone who ironically acted as "holier than thou" person and it made me a horrible monster that hurt other people because they didn't meet my expectation or standard that was so incredibly hard, suffocating and sometimes way too unrealistic.

So, you guess it right. I become a lonely, depressed, sad, ambitious, melancholic bastard who doesn't have that many friends. Although i could loose up a little bit and finally get lot of friends and acquintances in the last year of high school and university, but karma still coming anyway.

12th house profection is a karmic profection. It will bring up the most karmic event in your life. The sign of your karmic 12th house profection will tell you where you accumulate the most karma and the planet there will tell you what kind of karma you get.

I have Sagittarius 12th house with Mars in 16 degrees there. So you could name it. My biggest karmic event come from my experience in school as social and educational government institution (Sagittarius). And Mars is about violence, anger, drive and action. So in my 12th house profection year, i got my own karma because what i have done when i was in school and university.

Let's cut it into the lesson because this post will be hell damn long if i continue to tell you what was happened during my 12th house profection year.

THE BIGGEST VILLAIN OF THE STORY ACTUALLY DOESN'T REALIZE THAT HE IS VILLAIN. No bully thinks that they have done a bullying to their victim even if they actually did it. No r4pist thinks that they have done a rape to their victim even if they did it. No murder thinks that they have done a murder to their victim, too. Their narrative story in their had always have the excuse that prohibit them to see the reality because they are wrapped up in their own delusion (notice that delusion and inability is a focus of 12th house theme)

IN THE REALITY, THE BIGGEST VILLAIN OF A STORY IS SOMEONE WHO THINKS THAT THEY ARE THE HOLY MESSIAH, THE SAVER, THE HERO OR THE REVOLUTIONARIST THAT COULD CHANGE THE WORLD. Think about the biggest war criminal in any world war. They never thought that what had he done to the people was a crime or a mistake. They simply thought that what has they done made them as a hero. That's why there will be always a phrase like "You'll die and become a hero or you'll see yourself end up live too long until you become a villain"

SOMEONE WHO THOUGHT THAT THEY NEVER DID ANYTHING WRONG, END UP HURT PEOPLE MORE THAN ANYBODY WHO THOUGHT THEY ALWAYS MAKE A MISTAKE. It's not like i want you to self doubt yourself and second-guessing yourself into making kindness. It's just that instead of doubting yourself when trying to do good to other people, question your motive first and make it clear that you did it without any hidden purpose or agenda back in your subconscious mind. You can make a good couse and end up hurting people when you did not realize what was the motivation and the thought that makes you decided like that.

(FOR CAPRICORN RISING ONLY) MAKE SURE YOU FILL YOUR OWN CUPS BEFORE FILL OTHER PEOPLE'S CUP. Capricorn Rising tend to feel like "Okay, if nobody is doing it then I WILL DO IT" thanks to their 4th house Aries. This is good because it force you to be assertive, but when it comes to service, you need to understand that the first things to do in the middle of chaos is not becoming a hero that saves people, but yourself.

(FOR CAPRICORN RISING ONLY) LET YOURSELF GRIEVE. GRIEVE IS A SIGN THAT YOU ARE FULLY ALIVE AND STILL NEED TO CONNECT YOURSELF WITH YOUR OWN SOUL. YOU ARE ALLOWED TO GRIEVE, CRIED AND BE UNPRODUCTIVE AS YOU TRY TO SHED YOUR SORROW.

(FOR CAPRICORN RISING AND LIBRA SUN ONLY) A KARMA IS SIMPLY LESSON IS SOMETHING THAT TEACH YOU WHAT YOU SUPPOSED TO DO. NOT SOMETHING THAT IMPRISONED YOU WITH THE FOREVER SENTENCE. LESSON IS A GIFT, NOT A PUNISHMENT. Saturn is the ruler of Capricorn Rising and exalt in Libra. When Saturn is giving you a lesson, consider that was a gift. Because when Saturn doesn't love you anymore, he would punish you with death as the "villain", "sinner" without any ability to have salvation and forgiving.

THE MOST SELF UNDOING WE DID IS NOT WHEN WE DECIDED TO NOT DO SOMETHING, BUT WHEN WE DECIDED TO DO SOMETHING OPPOSITE FROM WHAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO DO. Self-undoing concept is kinda hard to grasp. When you look at 12th house sign, ask yourself about what kind of thing that you think you need to do buy you did the opposite anyway just because it felt so uncomfortable. Cancer 12th house do thinks that they need to be vulnerable, but they just to self-guard themselves so hard that nobody knows their emotion anyway just because vulnerability feels like suffering and being vulnerable is suffocating them.

This is maybe the longest take of Astrology Observation that i made, but i might consider to write more about 12th house next time. Ciao!

[imagineastrology]

Mars in the 12th House

Your anger may not be 'felt' by you, it may feel as though when people tell you about your anger, it doesn't feel real. The 12th house clouds our vision and when it is placed in such a raw and direct planet such as Mars, it can dilute our awareness of how powerful (or disruptive) we can be. 

You let your frustration out in solitude and rarely let anyone see you when you're angry. You make decisions and moves in private so it can make it difficult for people to have a defined view of you. This can be a good or bad thing - people may mistake your secrecy for bad intentions or simply the idea that you don't like them. However, you just don't feel the need to tell the world what your next step is! With Mars in the 12th house, it makes for someone who feels dutiful towards helping others and charitable organisations. You can motivate people by your spiritual wisdom so careers surrounding helping others such as counselling, medical care or even teaching can give you an immense level of satisfaction. You gain this rare level of satisfaction from helping others as that is the 12th house way - the more you help the more you feel good about yourself and your abilities. But it goes without saying that it is vital that you look after yourself too.  You get things done when you are alone so if you are in need of finishing a project - ensure that there are no distractions!

[northopalshore]

Hi!! I hope you’re well. Can i please ask about my groom persona chart?

Aqua 8h: neptune (18°) and venus (17°) in conjunction

Pisces 9h: Mercury (13°) and Uranus (12°) in conjunction + MC

Jupiter in Scorpio 5th house at 18°

Gemini Mars 12h at 18°

Have a blessed day!

Hello!

So, Neptune (18° virgo) conjuncting venus (17°leo) in the GPC can mean that your future husband may be a tad bit of an idealist in love. He may have a certain image that he has concerning his partner i.e has a checkbox lol.

He's quite picky with love interests. I will not be surprised if he turns away from someone the moment he realises they have nothing in common with his ideals. He's definitely someone who values deep devotion. That arctic monkeys song is suddenly playing in my head. " At least as deep as the Pacific ocean" . He wants to be swept off his feet and land on his butt lol. He could be interested in people with unique or unconventional looks or he himself may have those traits i.e coloured hair, piercings & tattoos especially if uranus, venus or neptune also conjunct his ascendant. Since it's in aquarius, he may do this despite breaking tradition or social norms for the sake of being original/genuine!

Mercury (13° aries) conjunct uranus (12° pisces) in the 9th house: He could have very unique ideas or thoughts that come across his mind. He may be attention deficit, or have trouble organising his thoughts. His ideas could come left and right, filling his mind and it can make it extra hard for him to focus or sit still. He could be very intelligent but most of his knowledge is self-taught i.e not through books or schools. His intuition may be quite sharp. He could apply his zany ideas into his career. He may talk a lot. Like.. A LOT about his ideas or his beliefs. He can go on and on and not feel tired at all.

Jupiter (18° virgo) in Scorpio 5th house:

His career could involve a lot of creativity or rebellion in a way. If he makes art, it is usually dark or gothic. He could spend hours of his time working on his hobbies, perfecting his craft. He could also be a perfectionist. Maybe he'll find it difficult to start new hobbies for fear of being obsessed with perfection.

Gemini (18° virgo) mars in 12th house:

Again, he may have trouble sleeping or sitting still until his work is finished. He could be very restless in general. He could spend a lot of his time just working on his interests. As long as the ideas are running, he feels like he needs to chase it until the high has come down i.e his projects are complete.

This was a little long, but his energy seems familiar. I think I've had someone like this come up in the first pick a card I posted lol.

Hope this helps ♡

[divine-mystic-princess]

[yet-another-leo]

song for 12H-ers/12H placements

[astrosolutions]

MARS IN 12TH HOUSE – PREDICTIONS & REMEDIES

In astrology, the placement of Mars in the 12th house is considered significant. The 12th house is associated with hidden enemies, isolation, and self-undoing. Mars, on the other hand, represents energy, aggression, and passion. When Mars is placed in the 12th house, it can indicate a struggle with expressing anger or taking action due to fear or self-doubt. This placement can also bring a desire for solitude and a need to confront subconscious fears and insecurities. However, it is important to note that the influence of other planets and aspects in the birth chart can modify the interpretation of Mars in the 12th house. Understanding the placement of Mars in the 12th house can provide insights into a person’s inner conflicts and how they can work through them to achieve personal growth.

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[444shayyy]

if you've experienced Moon in 12th house or Mars in 12th house synastry can you please tell me your experience?

Particularly if your the house person or even if your the planet person that's okay.

[learnastrowallura]

As a Libra 12th house Taurus moon 7th I'm curious about your rising and how that has changed your perspective of life and how you take actions towards life ? Also curious if you're a 1st house stellium in Venus mars and Pluto

I'm a Scorpio rising with Venus and Mars in my 12th house (both in 1st house if we use WS) and I have Pluto in my 2nd house

Honestly I don't relate a lotttt to Scorpio rising stereotypes because I am so open as well as optimistic about everything (kinda naïve too tbh) and that's cuz I have Sagittarius and Aries placements too. Lot of fire and passion in me.

Also I have Sun in 1st house and Sun is the ruler of my MC (Leo)... the midheaven is the highest point in the sky aka the most apparent- rules over our reputation and image and yeah I'm definitely seen as arrogant and a showoff at times cuz I'm always in heels n shit and with the Scorpio rising eyes I just look mean from afar tbh

One thing I do relate to thanks to my Scorpio placements (rising/venus/mars) is the constant transformational phases that we go through and tbh because of those experiences I have learned to embrace life as it is and enjoy it no matter how fucked it might be lmao (I use a lot of humor to cope thanks to my Sag placements) (I'm at the end of 8th house profection year btw so it's been a ride)

I approach anything in life in a direct and intense way very Martian I would say however there is a lot of hesitation that comes with taking these actions which inhibits me from fulfilling my true potential (must be that Mars in 12th house for sure) which is smth I'm working on

Thank you for reading and taking interest in my posts and my chart <3

[mooninfall]

Current Transit Reflection Dec 13th 2023 - Jan 7th 2024

Venus, Mars, and Mercury Transiting my 12H in Sag Squaring Saturn/Neptune in my 3H in Pisces // Pluto at 29 degrees of Cap in my 1H opposite my natal Sun in Cancer 7H, South Node in Libra & North Node in Aries

I cannot wait for these 12H transits to end, I'm suffering so badly right now. I realised that I'm seriously co-dependent and hyper fixate on 1 person and then neglect the rest of my relationships. I'm feeling so sad about this realization! I self sabotaged SO BADLY. I finally had a community of people around me who share the same values as me. But because I was hyper fixated on a crush AND I over committed to creating an organization with this new community when I was feeling ambitious, I RUINED IT. It was like I won the lottery, and then blew all the $$. I'm SAD. </3

However, this realization has motivated me to go to online Codependency Anonymous meetings. I'm also trying to find a therapist. I feel so sad though. I lost all but 1 of my friendships because of how self sacrificing I was being. I FUCKED UP and I'm scared I'm going to be alone/accidentally hurting others forever.

But deep down I know this is an opportunity to change. I feel like a failure right now. I had what I wanted and the fumbled it. I broke my own heart and then betrayed other people's trust in the process. I know there's always room for growth and to learn more and to change, but UGH. I'm so sad.

The thing is, no one has expressed anger with me yet, but I know they feel it and just don't think they can express it. I think we were all a little codependent. But that doesn't make it any better. God, I'm sad. I hope one day I can be someone who sets boundaries effortlessly and have a community of people who can do that too. I hope one day it's be easier to recognize my thoughts and communicate them.

I'm also realizing I don't have many hobbies outside of watching astrology horoscope videos. That feels embarrassing to me. I can see I use them as a regulating tool/helps me feel in control. I'd like to expand my hobbies but I'm struggling to find something that gives me that same dopamine hit. Idk what to do other than my best and let god do the rest.

My heart hurts and idk what to do with myself rn. Anything I try just feels like a distraction.