#MFS theories

[lesbianrey]

alicent haters be like she should have girlbossed her way out of being a child bride with no material resources or support. she should have been a good mother too in an society and family system that situated her as a brood mother for power

[dolphitos]

Y'all I think Floyd is canonically a Rock Troll like-

MAYBE IM LATE BUT LOOK AT HIS HAND DUDE, THATS A TOTAL🤘🏼 RIGHT THERE

[lorax-devito]

mike was contemplating his sexuality so hard😭😭

[whatohitsonfirewelp]

Thinking about how Darius couldn’t see Ben when he knocked. Thinking about how Ben was on his knees in front of the door. Thinking about how Ben knows how to pick locks.

[mikaelsonharem7]

Austin Theory so fine

[lil-vibes]

[severinaprince]

u kno, I don’t think that people consider enough the possibility (and very high probability) that Snape wasn’t mean to student’s because he wanted to, but more so because he had to. Not saying they he was nice. That man sure as hell wasn’t nice, especially when reading from Harry’s point of view.

But let’s consider for a moment the objective circumstances: Severus Snape was a past Death Eater, who at 21-ish years old changed sides (something only Dumbledore knew to which extent and the reasons), and knew of the possibility of the Dark Lord coming back because Dumbledore told him, and anyone who listened honestly, that he didn’t believe Voldemort to be truly gone.

Now, Severus Snape knows that Harry Potter, this child who is the Dark Lord’s undoing, is alive and is coming to the school, as probably most of his contemporary schoolmate’s kids are also going, have been there a while and will come for various years after. Snape is still bound to Dumbledore by his promise to be a spy, and is bound to Voldemort by brand. And Dumbledore is highly suspicious shit is about to go down (which u kno, he was rights ‘cause even from the first year lil Harry started Going Through It™️).

Having that background: Severus Snape, Head of Slytherin, and presumed Death Eater (‘cause u kno, spy), who was never known to be openly warm nor kind, who was fiercely bullied and he retaliated when felt necessary, is supposed to seem impartial and nice to all of his students?

Morally, should he had been? Heck yeah. Any decent teacher and adult should.

Realistically, should he had been? Well, if he wanted his cover blown, sure. If he wanted all of the Death Eaters who had children in school questioning the hell out of him, yeah. If he wanted Voldemort suspicious of his alliance and current belief system (which would have been at odds with the Death Eater ideals), uh-huh. But that would have made for a lousy spy at best and disastrous war changing consequences at worst.

And let’s be really honest here: Dumbledore gave him the position as teacher, primarily because he wanted to use Snape as a spy. That was Dumbledore’s priority, not the teaching. Which is a little wild to think coming from a school headmaster, truly.

This theory (which personally extends from theory to canon, because that’s how being a spy works) does not excuse him from how his prejudice blinded him from seeing Harry for Harry and not James (but the case could be made that neither did Sirius, but that’s another topic). That was wild. However, at the same time, he looked out for Harry’s life.

Again, I’m not saying Severus was warm and nice and he certainly acted mean and cruel at moments, particularly with kids from the other three houses. I just think that was part of the tragedy. He had a role to play, he played it perfectly, getting himself branded as a coward and a traitor by the people closest to him. And because of him, they won the war.

[myimaginationplain]

I've found that when it comes to discussing who has the best claim to the iron throne and/or the Targaryen dynasty, there's often this implicit assumption that when Jon finds out about his true parentage, the knowledge will inevitably leak to the general Westerosi public. People love to theorize about whether or not the Northerners would continue to support Jon if his being Rhaegar's son came to light, or if he would be pushed as heir to the iron throne over Dany & Aegon, & I'm just like...how would any of them find out about it? Why would any of them find out about it?

I feel like some people believe that when Jon finds out about R + L = J, he'll, I dunno, send out news letters about it or something? Publicly renounce his status as Eddard Stark's son? I don't exactly understand what people think Jon would do with the information, but anything less than keeping as tight a lid on it as possible would be very out of character for Jon. Guys, we're talking about the same guy who purposefully gave a young mother the wrong baby. He's not gonna be cavalier about this.

The only people we can really be certain he'd feel the need to tell the truth to are Arya & Sansa. We know that Bran is likely to already know the truth himself by then through his greenseer tree-god bullshit; Rickon, even if he is found & taken to Winterfell by the time the other siblings reconvene (which I find highly unlikely), would probably be considered too young to trust with information like that.

Daenerys is also an extremely likely candidate for being one of the few people Jon would tell, although this is variable, as it depends on what sort of relationship you believe she & Jon will have by the time R + L = J is revealed. I for one am betting on she & Jon already being involved in some capacity by the time he finds out, thus making her one of the people he'd tell. But if you're in the camp of people who think they'll be enemies by then, he probably wouldn't tell her in that scenario.

Sam is furthest down on the very short list of people Jon would probably tell. I think it's likely, seeing how much he trusts Sam & leans on him for support. But still, it's not a sure thing.

So, including Howland Reed (who has successfully kept the secret for ~17 years now), that makes just 6-7 people who would be privy to Jon's parentage. None of whom would have much motivation to go screaming about it from the hilltops in any scenario where they're still behaving like themselves. (If any of you bring up show!Sansa here, then I'm gonna beat you with a hammer. Don't be a hypocrite; if you can acknowledge & accept that literally every other character was wildly ooc in Season 8, then do the same with Sansa. Betraying Jon's trust after swearing not to before a heart tree is just as ooc for book!Sansa as purposefully burning Kings' Landing to ash would be for book!Daenerys.)

Even in the event that Jon rides a dragon, I think that can easily be explained away by lying about Jon's mother. "Oh, why can I ride a dragon? Not many people know this, but my mother was actually a Lyseni whore. You know they have some Valyrian blood in them. She died in childbirth, though, which is why my lord father took me in." Who's gonna call his bluff on that? Ned's resolute silence on Jon's mother would absolutely work in his favor. The historical precident set by Nettles & others like her means that Jon can 100% just say his mother was the daughter of some unknown dragonseed or something.

IMO, the real question we should be asking is, if Jon were to have children, would he ever tell them the truth?

[overleftdown]

farleigh start and racism; oh boy.

(some people are going to find this post really annoying. some people are like felix catton.)

read this.

just some thoughts from the perspective of a person of color who is slightly too obsessed with this character. this movie leaves the viewer a lot of wiggle room to interpret how dynamics such as race and privilege come into play. there are certain parallels between this movie and the real world, and how unnoticeable white privilege tends to be for white people.

lemme lay some groundwork. from what i understand, the most prevalent form of racism and white privilege within upper- and middle-class circles is implicit bias. this is racist conceptualization that subconsciously interacts with one's perception of society and people. implicit bias is often externalized through microaggressions, differences in treatment and language towards a marginalized person, misplaced guilt or pity, and persistent denial of any existing privilege or marginalization. most of these biases are also founded on stereotypes. some racial stereotypes are heightening (e.g. asians are all smart) and some are lowering (e.g. black people are all lazy). all stereotypes are harmful. i'm going to discuss some of the stereotypes that could theoretically interact within the saltburn canon, as well as some things i've noticed within viewers. can of worms, to be honest. boutta get INTO IT.

to use one of my externalization examples, let's discuss (or, more accurately, let me discuss) the denial of existing privilege or marginalization. this is a subconscious way to uphold a sense of morality, effectively avoiding "white guilt," so to speak. as is clearly presented to us, the cattons are very attached to their methods of upholding their own self-righteousness. saviorism is a common theme within both elspeth and felix. in oliver's conversation with elspeth about poor dear pamela, you can see that oliver recognizes elspeth's need to justify her actions in an attempt to preserve her sense of decency. one can only assume that this applies to how they view farleigh's relationship with them. there's more to talk about there, but i'd like to start with the only overt mention of race in this movie.

in felix's confrontation with farleigh, farleigh makes the bold and brave decision to mention his blackness. i call this brave because it's genuinely a terrifying thing to do, and the end of this conversation is proof. "oh, that is... that is low, farleigh. seriously, that's where you want to take this? make it a race thing? i never know our footman's names; the turnover for a footman is notoriously high!" we have felix's intentional or unintentional shaming of farleigh. we have felix's appalled denial of any involvement of race or racial bias. we have felix's diversion away from farleigh specifically and onto his own inability to know his staff's names. felix made no further attempt to recenter farleigh, aside from telling him that the cattons have "done what they can." (which is SO absurd on its own. they are clearly and obviously able to do more. they are disgustingly rich). farleigh does feel ashamed after felix's response; you can see it on his face, and archie says it directly. here is a relevant and prevalent stereotype for all marginalized people: that the discussion of marginalization is exclusively weaponized to gain something or manipulate a situation. this is how felix chooses to see farleigh's implication of existing white privilege. this conversation results in nothing, does nothing, as felix chooses not to confront what he's probably thinking as he repeats the words "begging bowl" to venetia.

now. saviorism, guilt, and pity. felix specifically tells oliver that sir james made an effort to support farleigh out of guilt. i'd like to order some things in a way that i perceive them. frederica start runs from england, which is explained in a condescending way by felix. frederica start marries a so-referred-to "lunatic" who dug through fred and jame's money, although it's farleigh who only mentions fred's financial irresponsibility. out of guilt, james offers to pay for farleigh's education. the specificity of education is compelling to me. perhaps james is simply a patriotic man who strongly believes that english education is better. or this is a mobilized racial stereotype! who can truly know. i digress. james' offer to pay for farleigh's foreign education puts the cattons in an odd position; if farleigh is to attend english schools, he will need to stay with the cattons. if farleigh is staying with the cattons, he will need to be treated as equal to felix and venetia. this is all one long chain of obligations. none of these acts from one family member to another should be considered "charitable," because family should intrinsically create a trustworthy and supportive dynamic.

i believe that the cattons do consider their fostering of farleigh as obligatory. moral obligation, as they recognize that families are intended to have a sympathetic and loving relationship. they cannot, however, escape the truth that they're just guilty. the "begging bowl" and "biting the hand" are more symbolic of a starving dog and its charitable adopter than a cousin/nephew who's staying with his absurdly rich family. see, the cattons are fully and entirely capable of affording another child, of supporting frederica financially, etc. the only way i can rationalize their reluctance to do so is by assuming that they don't feel like farleigh deserves it. is this a crazy assumption? i genuinely don't see why else. of course, i don't think this mentality is explicit or conscious. it's more-so the reality that when farleigh walks in a room, he's not the same as anybody else. aside from background characters at oxbridge, the only on-screen black people are liam, joshua, and james' godson's wife (who gets degraded on-screen). this is the reality of being different in an environment such as the english aristocracy. the cattons choose to see themselves as the hand that feeds the less fortunate, more entertaining, and least inconvenient. the cattons' inclusion of farleigh is not only reliant on how well farleigh performs, but also on their own pity and guilt.

all of this is somehow, painfully mirrored by some takes i've seen on farleigh. maybe this entire post is presumptuous, but you know what isn't presumptuous? saying that certain people hold farleigh to an incredibly odd standard. while the cattons never canonically said anything along the lines of "farleigh doesn't deserve our love and support," mfs on the internet have. the number of times people have referred to this character as greedy, lazy, petty, and malignant is so odd to me. i'm insane, i know. i just don't understand how people can hold farleigh to the backdrop of an english aristocratic family and so passionately say that he, of all characters, is the most detestable. or that he, of all characters, has no reason to behave in the way he does.

is farleigh greedy? greed is defined as a desire for more. farleigh has no desire to climb ranks, no desire to replace or surpass felix, no desire to hold any power over any family member. he is maintaining, upholding a standard that has been set for him throughout his life. is it kind or selfless of him to meddle in other people's affairs with the cattons? no. does he have a reason to be upset that non-relatives of the cattons are a threat to his inclusion in the first place? yes. is farleigh lazy? i don't even need to explain this one. no. if you don't consider oliver lazy, then i really don't want to hear anything. is farleigh petty? pettiness is defined as "an undue concern for trivial matters, especially in a small-minded or spiteful way." farleigh's meticulous attention to trivial matters isn't undue in any sense. a person of color and their meticulous attention to trivial matters is almost never undue. elspeth is a good example of petty. is farleigh malignant? there are a lot of definitions of malignant and i've seen people apply all of them, in some way, to farleigh. that's just wrong. archie madekwe once said, "i was interested in humanizing what, on paper, seemed like a mean character, a villain, or a bully. i don't think he's any of that. he's very self-serving, but i think he's really a heartbreaking character." case closed, this was for my own piece of mind. had to write this section because good lord.

in conclusion to this post that has gone tragically off the rails, i think the in-canon and viewer perspective of farleigh is, perhaps, a little racially motivated. sue me. they are all very centered on this idea that farleigh doesn't deserve inherent respect, support, and love. to remove farleigh's rational position within the cattons family would be akin to removing his right to familial love. genuinely, that's how i see it. the transaction nature of farleigh's actions is responsive. he sees felix as a social shield at oxbridge, he sees elspeth and james as the beholders of his perceived security, and he sees saltburn as a way to escape from his lack of privilege and his lack of stability in america. boom. bam. pow.

[kaukont-ramblings]

i think it’s interesting that kris and ralsei are presented as very opposite personalities from one another, when they’re probably the most similar characters in the entire game.

i was thinking about the few things we know for sure about kris’s personality, and i started realizing how similar ralsei and kris’s interests are. we know kris plays a lot of video games, and i wouldn’t be surprised if this somehow lined up with ralsei’s ability to just… know battle and game mechanics otherwise unknown to the people around him.

kris has always expressed some level of interest in playing the piano, but all of the examples (like the spamton sweepstakes audio) are chaotic and described as loudly unpleasant in some regard. my castle town is one of the only songs in the deltarune soundtrack to feature live instruments as opposed to a midi score, similarly to the self-titled theme in undertale. to me, this comes off as the game wanting its audience to associate ralsei with the playing of piano.

i think it was ralsei that was always playing the piano at noelle’s house, in which he would always stop if she came into the room, not wanting to draw attention to the fact that he wasn’t kris. that he doesn’t play like kris, that he knows significantly more than them.

to me, ralsei seems like a manifestation of kris’s fawn response. i’ve talked about the possibility of kris having a dissociative disorder/ralsei being an alter within their system, but he could very well be a much more metaphorical representation of how kris wishes to be seen/an alter ego of sorts. there’s also an argument to be made that the dark worlds are a representation of maladaptive daydreaming, which i also won’t rule out as a possibility (not to mention there’s quite a bit of overlap between dissociation and maladaptive dreaming, but that’s an entirely different discussion that i am definitely not qualified to be going in depth on lol).

meanwhile, kris is so far dissociated from their reality that they seem fairly apathetic in most social circumstances. it’s easy for toriel to look at her kid and assume they’re doing just fine when kris only lets her view that one side of themself. i’m so curious to know what toriel’s reaction to/thoughts on ralsei are going to be. for all we know, she could be aware of ralsei’s existence (perhaps kris went by the name back when they wore their headband regularly, maybe it was a nickname they gave themself or a character they played at some point).

point being: i love ralsei and i need to know what the fuck his deal is

[pokemon1oadvanced]

At this point, the camp fam just need to buy a share house.

[adultemophase]

Theories / stuff I noticed in the act 3 teaser

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it looks like this scene is ambessa and caitlyn fighting 1 on 1 in a sort of organized gladiator match since the brief frames of the enforcers and noxian soldiers in the background show them all standing at attention in a circle. My theory is that Caitlyn agrees to this sort of “dick measuring contest” for control of piltover w ambessa as apart of a plan w the other members of the adjunct council / alphabet mafia ( jayce, vi mel) to catch the noxian’s off guard

These appear like they happen in the same scene as the previous image, I imagine there’s some sort of interference in the fight from jinx and or vi to prevent ambessa from killing Caitlyn and / or my other theory. I’m still not positive Caitlyn is gonna have both of her eyes by the end of the act though…

Viktor is not dead and is being kept alive by Singed. This most likely will lead to the real Machine Herold and Singed’s discovery of how to “save” Orianna.

Warwick is mostly likely being used to advance Viktor’s transformation. There’s that brief convo between Singed and Viktor where Singed tells him that he can essentially advance himself further if he “merged” with warwick. is he dead?? idk maybe

[thyrinea]

I already can see similarities between Canto 7 and the underworld segment of the Odyssey, but I'll only update the Nostos theory once we get everything, so I'll just write down my thoughts here for you all to see it.

If you don't know what is the theory, I recommend going to the document and give it a reading! The latest Canto there is Heathcliff's.

SPOILERS FOR CANTO 7 UNDER THE CUT!

So first thing, I managed to get something right on my previous post related to this canto.

There I said we would meet and learn more about fixers, and even meet some with a high-ranking status. — I though about this because part of the odyssey, when Odysseus was in the underworld, he met and talked with heroes from the past, even one that previously worked with him in the iliad and died, Achilles.

So to get this one right, tells me I might be on a good direction. Not only we met someone from the Hana Association, which consists of high-grade fixers, but we also talked with Moses — a grade 5 fixer — and have to work alongise fixers from Cinq association, Zwei association and Fanghunt Office.

Going along with the story, we find Manchaland, a place that reeks with death as it is populated by bloodfiends and bloodbags. A place especulated that whoever gets in, never comes back alive. Sure Hades is not a theme Park, but those two have things in common. I might have to search more about how people can access the underworld in greek mythology.

Another thing I noticed is how the bloodfiend theme especifically on Canto 7 can be a homage to how the shades (dead people) need to drink blood in order for being able to speak. In the Odyssey, Odysseus had to sacrifice two lambs because he wanted to speak with Terasias about his future, giving their blood to the perished.

We still have a lot more to uncover as the episodes get unlocked, and for now we might only have these parallels on our disposal But I'll be trying to work on this so I can update the document as soon as possible!

[foursaints]

Let's start a blood feud, where our kin 2,000 years in the future will hate each other, but not know why.

every night i dream of someone who will virulently disagree with all of my headcanons but back it up with textual analysis. and together we can wildly misinterpret the source material at each other (angrily) and send long (angry) paragraphs with quotes cited and secondary sources… and somewhere along the way perhaps what we really find is…. each other….

[mjmr493]

Please tell me I’m not the only one skeptical of Cassius Bethe in Sorcery and Small Magics?! Like he just happens to bump into Leo in the library. In the confusion, he just so Happens to swap in the most dangerous spell imaginable. And proceeds to give Leo advice that just so HAPPENS to ensure that the spell will definitely be cast? No no no. I’m calling it. Don’t let his overly helpful veneer fool you. That boy is scheming.

[groovygladiatorsheep]

❝ No one look good with me but you.❞

So I saw Titan!Ralsei theory… have some food y’all, it’s, well, not a comic but it’s a drawing I made !

I imagine the eye to like, rip Ralsei’s skull apart or something like that.

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* Credits.

Ralsei belongs to - Deltarune

The theory is by - @unidentifiedflyingchoco

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