#Lucifer is miscarrying

[alastors-airwaves]

Is Lucifer ok??!?!!

Alastor: *helping Lucifer settle in* A stress heat is bad. It’s his body signaling something is wrong.

Lucifer: *whimpering in pain* My belly hurts…

Alastor: *frowning with concern* Your belly, you say? Let me take a look.

He crouched down beside Lucifer, his sharp eyes scanning him over, watching the obvious discomfort etched on Lucifer’s face. The tension in the room was thick, with Lucifer’s body clearly reacting to the stress in a way that was unusual even for him.

Lucifer’s breath hitched as another wave of pain hit, his hands instinctively clutching his swollen abdomen. His heat had come on too suddenly, and the discomfort in his stomach was not the usual ache of such cycles. It was deeper, sharper, and growing.

Lucifer: *whimpering, trying to stay composed but failing* It’s... different this time. Hurts more... not like before...

Alastor’s hands carefully settled on Lucifer’s abdomen, feeling the heat radiating from him, but there was something else. A tension, almost unnatural. He glanced up at Lucifer, his crimson eyes softening with uncharacteristic concern.

Alastor: *quietly* This isn’t just your heat acting up. Something else is at play here.

Lucifer’s breath hitched as another sharp pain shot through him, his face contorted with discomfort.

Lucifer: *voice strained* Do... do you think it’s the baby?

Alastor: *after a pause* “It could be. Stress isn’t good for you or the child, Lucifer. You need to rest and stop pushing yourself so hard.”

Lucifer: *voice shaky* I was resting…but it hurts…

Alastor: Okay we will try to comfort you Lucifer. Just try to relax *eyes immediately widen as he notices the blood*

Angel: *comes in with the arms-full of Charlie’s clothes* Here! I got them! *dumps the clothes near Lucifer*

Alastor: Angel call an ambulance. Lucifer might be miscarrying

[cakerybakery]

!!

Can you imagine if Eve was so devastated after Cain and Abel that despite knowing they were supposed to usher in humanity, Eve couldn’t bear the idea of being pregnant again.

That Adam makes the first deal with the devil because heaven is just like, tell her to suck it up and get on with it, but he loves Eve and can’t hurt her by forcing himself on her.

So he asked Lucifer to give him a way to switch roles with Eve. He’ll bear her children.

Lucifer understands their grief. Lilith recently suffered their first miscarriage. He can’t undo heaven curse upon her, this child wasn’t even planned, but she had been excited. They hadn’t realized when heaven cursed her to never have children it would curse her to miscarry if she became pregnant.

So he makes the deal, Adam will bear all of Eve’s children… plus one.

He tells Adam of the curse that perhaps one day Lilith would want a child and should she, Adam will bear it for her with Lucifer as the sire.

Adam agrees. Heaven is upset at this turn of events but turns a blind eye, they don’t know what exactly Adam’s deal was but he ends up in heaven so it must not be so bad.

It’s been so long, he’s died and even started the exterminations, but one day Lucifer reaches out.

A deal overrides even death. He puts in for some vacation and goes down to hell. Things are tense and it takes a couple months of trying, but it works. He’s away for nearly a year before Charlie is born.

He doesn’t really think about Charlie as being his blood. Adam feels more like a surrogate. Especially since Lilith takes to her so quickly, is so grateful for Adam’s help.

Things go south for him and Eve though. Eve feels betrayed. She hadn’t known about his end of the deal until then.

Things get worse after Lilith and Lucifer split. She confides in Adam and Adam is pissed off on her behalf. Lucifer didn’t take to Charlie the same way Lilith did. He loved her but spent more and more time in a depressive state and wasn’t able to spend much time with her. Lilith couldn’t handle it anymore as she was also being pushed away.

If Lucifer was depressed from seeing the evils of humanity, maybe seeing more sinners killed would cheer him up? They up the exterminations.

This really inspires Charlie to put a stop to the killings.

Vaggie doubts their cause, especially since they’re no longer targeting the worst of humanity but everyone and falls. The hotel is formed. An angel is killed and now Adam is angry and scared for heaven if they can be killed what’ll stop hell from turning on them?

They fight, Adam tries to actually kill Charlie because her birth is where everything went wrong. Maybe if he gets rid of her, things will go back to the way they were.

Lucifer isn’t teasing Adam about fucking Eve, he’s teasing Adam about the deal, that Eve liked fucking Adam more than she’d liked being fucked by Adam.

That he put on weight after the pregnancies. Just generally being an asshole about their deal.

Lucifer blames Adam for the failure of his marriage. Lucifer felt like he was cheating. That Charlie was an affair child. It sent him spiralling and he never told Lilith how he felt.

Adam revives as a sinner and things are difficult. There’s just arguments and hostility until one day Adam, pissed off that Charlie is acting so calm and trying to see the best in everything while he’s raging and Lucifer and him are at each other’s throats again goes, “I can’t believe I gave birth to you! You don’t know anything that’s going on! You can’t fix everything with hope and happiness, puppies and rainbows. Back off!”

And he doesn’t even realize what he’s said until he sees her shocked face. Hears the silence. His brain catches up to his mouth and now Lucifer is really mad.

But Charlie wants to know what Adam meant. Lucifer tries to lie but Adam can’t look into eyes so much like Lucifer’s on that day thousands of years ago. How they looked with tears as Lucifer told him about the miscarriage. How they both cried over the lost children.

He breaks. He tells Charlie everything.

Even the stuff Lilith told him. Charlie confronts Lucifer and he has to admit why he was distant.

Only with everything out in the open at last do things start getting better.

Adam and Lucifer can actually talk about what happened instead of dancing around it and blame each other for feelings the other didn’t know about.

The sex was good but they both felt awful about having it. And guilty for enjoying it.

Charlie wants to know why she was so easy for both of them to give up. Adam assured her that it was because he was doing for Lilith and that Lilith loved her, he didn’t try to get attached because he was doing it for someone else. For Lucifer it was the guilt and he felt horrible for feeling guilty and for not being able to be around as much as he wanted. He’s sorry for not being there for her, for taking his feeling out on her. She does eventually forgive them and enjoys getting to know more about them when they’re not trying to hide the truth from her.

Things aren’t still right with Eve or Lilith but there’s not much they can do. Eve doesn’t want to forgive yet, nor see Adam to let him try. Eve has her own journey to have to come to terms about everything.

Lilith isn’t going back to Lucifer, she’s still hurt he pushed her away as well, but now that things are out in the open though she’s finally able talk to Charlie like how she always wanted, openly without fear of revealing the truth. Their relationship gets better.

There’s a shift now. Adam and Lucifer are enjoying each other’s company. Then one day they’re sharing stories and laughing but Lucifer is looking at Adam differently, sweetly, the mood is shifting. Adam’s close enough they could kiss, he leans in a little closer, Lucifer does too. Now sex is just good without the guilt. Eternity is a long time, spending it with each other sounds like a fine way to enjoy it.

[seramilla]

Ohhh Vaggie learning she's really Carmillas daughter who never made it!!! Wait wait though. We can make this worse. Vaggie wasn't just any miscarried baby. What if Carmilla was pregnant when she died and Vaggie was that baby? Like Carmilla knew she was pregnant but had no clue what happened to her unborn third child, not until Vaggie is registering as her daughter...

"Will you leave us alone for a minute, Charlotte?"

Carmilla's strong hand comes to rest on Charlie's shoulder, where she's leaning over Vaggie's hospital bed. Charlie seems surprised at first, like she wants to protest, or say she doesn't want to leave her girlfriend's side. But something in Charlie's eyes says she knows it's for the best. The princess squeezes her hand, says, "I'll be right outside, baby," and gives her one final look before she exits the room, shutting the door quietly behind her.

Carmilla rolls the doctor's chair over to Vaggie's beside, taking a seat, and crosses her arms protectively over her chest. Vaggie's not sure if she's just contemplating, or if the crossing of her arms is a self-soothing behavior. Vaggie is normally exceptional at reading body language, but this woman has always been a mystery to her. At the very least, Carmilla seems particularly uncomfortable with this situation. She opens her mouth as if to speak. Several times, in fact, but nothing comes out, until Vaggie offers her an olive branch.

"It's okay, Ms. Carmine," Vaggie says, trying to sound as casual and non-threatening as possible to the disgruntled woman. "You seem like you have something important you want to tell me. I'd rather you not sugarcoat it and just say it."

Carmilla breathes deep, bending forward and putting her large hands behind her head, laughing under her breath. "Okay then..." she starts, sitting up again to look Vaggie straight in her one curious, golden eye. "What has Heaven told you about Exorcists?"

"Umm, nothing," Vaggie admits, not sure where Carmilla is going with this. "Just that we were 'specially selected' to serve under Adam, whatever that means."

"Do you have any recollection of your life on Earth before that point?"

"Again, no...none of us did. Why? Where are you going with this?"

Carmilla sighs again, visibly fighting with herself over how to phrase this next part.

"Lucifer informed me that the process for selecting Exorcists is quite...different than I had initially understood. I thought you were trained to be warriors; while that's true, you weren't selected for the role because of your ability. It has more to do with what you are."

"What's that supposed to mean?" Vaggie asks, getting visibly annoyed and even a little angry at that statement. What she is? She's not anything special. She'd been an angel, and a strong one, and that's why she'd been chosen. She's a little more cocksure than other angels, but all the Exorcists had to be. There hadn't been anything that different about her. She's just Vaggie. Charlie had said so.

Carmilla moves on to a seemingly unrelated topic, which only frustrates Vaggie more.

"Let me, um..." Carmilla says, trying to think of a different angle from which to approach this topic. "How do I put this?...Years ago, my daughters and I were killed in an accident. It was stupid, and entirely my fault. When we showed up here, I didn't know what was going on. I only knew that I had to protect them at all costs. It took a while, though, for my memories from my life to come back to me. But when they did...I suddenly remembered that when I died...I had been pregnant."

Vaggie is...perplexed, to say the least, about where the current conversation is headed. She feels sorry for Carmilla, sure, but she's not certain where the older woman thinks she's going with this.

"Umm, I'm sorry," Vaggie says, infusing her voice with as much sincerity and empathy that she can muster. She's still not sure what this has to do with her, but she's not an unsympathetic monster. "What...what happened to your baby?"

"I never knew," Carmilla said, and Vaggie can tell she's trying to hold back tears. "I assumed I...lost it, when we ended up here. As some sort of punishment. I was pregnant before I came here, and then when we manifested in Pentagram City, my child was just...gone. Like I'd never been pregnant in the first place."

"I'm sorry for your loss, Carmilla," Vaggie reiterates, but starting to get a little antsy from the tone of this conversation. "But what does that have to do with me?"

Carmilla stands, pacing the room back and forth, chewing lightly on one of her nails, obviously in distress about what she's going to say next.

"I tried to move on. I always hoped my baby was spirited away to Heaven. They were an innocent. They didn't deserve any of this." She gestures to the entirety of Hell with her strong hands, as if the reason should be obvious. "I made that assumption, and I chose to believe it. But then you showed up at my doorstep...fighting for freedom, for justice, for some kind of retribution for what you'd done to Charlotte's people. I didn't want to help at first. But something inside me told me I needed to."

She moves back to Vaggie's bedside, taking Vaggie's un-bandaged hand in hers, and squeezing it tightly.

"Then Lucifer called me, and said you were injured. You had lost a lot of blood, and the clock was ticking. Charlotte was trying desperately to find someone who was a match, anyone at all. I figured it couldn't hurt to see if me or my girls would be a fit...and Vaggie, the thing is...all of us were."

"So?" Vaggie responds, wishing Carmilla would just get to the fucking point. "Odds are someone down here would be, right? It's not that uncommon?"

"Vaggie..." Carmilla starts again, taking both of her hands in her large claws this time, squeezing them until they almost hurt. "Lucifer told me why. And also about what the Exorcists really are. What you really are. You're all children, Vaggie. Infants! All the Exorcists, every one of them, are souls that were never truly born... They never got to experience life on Earth as autonomous beings. That's why none of you remember. There's nothing to remember. For that, Heaven treated you wrong."

Vaggie's eye is wide. She's looking at the woman in front of her, hearing every word coming out of her mouth, but not able to focus, and not understanding any of it. No, that can't be true, she thinks. She'd been a person. She'd had a life. A family. Hadn't she? Why can't she remember?

"No," Vaggie says, shaking her head, refusing to believe a word of it. "That's not true, Carmilla!" She yanks her hand away from Carmilla's, covering her head with her hands, refusing to look at the grieving woman in front of her. "How dare you," Vaggie continues. "How dare you say such a thing. We were people! You don't get to take that away from me!"

"Vaggie, listen," Carmilla tries to place her hand on Vaggie's shoulder this time, but Vaggie pushes her away. Carmilla tries again, desperately needing the young girl to listen to what she has to say. She grasps Vaggie by the shoulders, and Vaggie fights it, but Carmilla forces her to sit still, forces her to face her, and not look away.

"Let me go!" Vaggie shouts. Carmilla doesn't.

"Listen to me, mija. Lucifer wasn't a match. He's always a match for the other fallen angels. But he wasn't for you. Because you're different. Yes, you're mortal, but you're different. You never tasted Earth's food, never walked on the same ground as other SInners, you are blameless. So you're different. Belphegor ran additional tests, to figure out why, and it's because..."

Carmilla lets her go, turning away from Vaggie, suddenly unable to look at her.

"Because why?" Vaggie shouts. "Fucking Hell, because why?! Just spit it out, Carmilla!"

Carmilla does, and when she turns to face Vaggie again, her face is soaked with salty tears.

"Because you're mine!"

[kaledya]

When were Constantine and Charlie born?

How many languages do both of them understand?

Why did Lucifer forbid Constantin from learning souls magic?

How is Lucifer and Lilith's relationship like (i mean, give me an example of how they interact with each other?

And finally...why didn't they have children sooner? Or what made them want children?

Love your art and your AU, i really am looking forward to it, and I don't care if you are not a good writer, I need a full fanfic for Sinner's Symphony

1.

Constantine was born in 1812

and Charlie was born in 1818.

2. Both Constantine and Charlie know a spell that allows them to understand all human languages, but without this spell they can speak the angelic language, the demonic language. Constantine speaks Latin, Italian, Spanish, Scandinavian and Japanese.

Charlie learned Japanese and Italian because it interested her.

3. They are kind of like Gomez and Mortica, Lucifer was the first person to treat Lilith with respect, and they became very close friends after spending time together in the garden, and then they became friends, and they both made each other very happy, and then they fell in love, and after the fall they became each other's confidant and the most trusted person, because they were the only light they could find in that dark prison. They ruled their kingdom together and ruled together and ruled equally. And for 10,000 years they have had a marriage based on respect and love and they still love each other.

4. Lilith and Lucifer wanted children after establishing their kingdom, not because they wanted a future heir, they were both almost immortal, but because they wanted to start a family, they wanted to create a light in this eternal dark prison, but it was not that easy.

The reason they had children after 9,000 years was because Lilith kept miscarrying.

‘’there is a reason why Constantine and Charlie were born almost nine thousand years later. lilith and lucifer tried many things but lilith's blood was corrupted after she became a sinner lucifer's blood was pure because he was one of the 7 angels even though he fell

(in my AU also angel blood is like acid for demons it burns them directly) so the baby died before it was born. lucifer and lilith searched for centuries to find a solution and finally they came up with a solution (this idea is still a wip so I'm not sure) 

if during lilith's pregnancy maybe both of them would transfer some of their life energy to the baby continuously maybe the baby would be able to hold on to life maybe that way the two bloods would balance and even though. 

this would weaken them a lot during this 9 month period they took this risk and it worked. That's why they shouldn't exist, their blood should kill them but it doesn't. In fact it makes them stronger, in a way they are an anomaly. 

''someone who shouldn't exist, who shouldn't be alive. but look what fate has done, I'm in front of you, upright and standing. and God only knows what I'm capable of.-''

I'm still thinking about how Constantine and Charlie have blood. I want to think about a special blood for them.maybe orange ıdk’’

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I am very happy to hear that you like my drawings! I am also very happy to hear that you want to read my AU fanfic!

[marginofthought]

Okay but what if Sam was pregnant when he said yes to Lucifer in Detroit. Or maybe he was already pregnant when Dean left him in 5x04 and later miscarried due to the stress. What if Endverse Dean knew about this and blamed himself for leaving his brotherwife..

To the first part - I’m assuming you mean Endverse!Sam here (real Sam doesn’t have a physical body in hell so it’s difficult to know what might happen) but Endverse!Sam saying yes to Lucifer while pregnant - talk about bearing a devil's spawn. The righteous man’s offspring already tainted by the devil before it’s even born. And Lucifer would make sure that it would be born, maybe letting Sam see glimpses of it just to let him know that Lucifer was grooming Dean's child to be the perfect heir to Lucifer’s throne.

2. To the second part:

Sam is devastated, he had really hoped that Dean would see reason. They needed to stay together, to be stronger for the upcoming battle and well fuck, Sam needed to tell Dean about the pregnancy he had just found about.  But Dean doesn’t want him, obviously doesn't want their child and it hurts. It hurts too much but Sam can’t let the last thing he has of Dean go. 

And even when they’re hunting together again Sam knows that Dean doesn’t trust him anymore and he just can’t bring himself to tell Dean, worried and scared of his reaction. He’s not sure if he will be angry and demand Sam get rid of it or if he'd bench Sam again.

And when he miscarried he doesn’t tell Dean either, now even more scared of his reaction. It is however one of the leading reasons why he decides to say yes to Lucifer. If he can’t have Dean’s child, not good enough for it, the least he can do is assure that Dean has that opportunity with someone else, in a world that isn’t on the brink of collapse.

Endverse!Lucifer isn’t shy in telling Endverse!Dean what he lost and how he would have loved another Winchester to play with. Dean knows it’s his fault for pushing Sam away and not just supporting his brother when he needed him. He knows that it’s his fault that he lost not just his brother but also his child and the one shot at he had at an actually happy family.

He hides it under fury and righteousness but younger Dean can see through it, knows his own defensive mechanisms, his own hidden self-hatred.

Endverse!Dean doesn’t get to warn younger Dean before he gets killed by Lucifer and the archangel can get a rerun of one of his favorite moments: telling Dean he lost his child and brother to his own foolishness

[lucifers-little-light]

Fuck, Lucifer Alastor needs you now!

Lucifer was bidding Husk a good night when he felt it — a sharp, searing pain radiates from the ring on his finger—the one binding his soul to Alastor's. Startled, he grabs his hand and hisses in discomfort, the burning sensation growing stronger by the second.

Lucifer: *muttering* What the hell…?

He stiffens as realization dawns. Something is terribly wrong. Without hesitation, he teleports back to his estate, the ominous tug of the bond pulling him toward the source of the distress.

Lucifer’s Manor

The moment Lucifer materializes in the grand hall. His eyes immediately fall on the base of the staircase where Alastor lies crumpled, blood pooling beneath him. Lucifer rushes over, his heart pounding in his chest.

Lucifer: *kneeling beside him, his voice shaking with rare panic* Alastor!

Alastor’s face is pale, his usual sharp grin replaced with a pained grimace. Blood soaked his clothes but it was hard to tell with all of the red he already wore.

Lucifer rushed to Alastor’s side and pulled him in to his lap, patting his face.

Lucifer: Alastor! Alastor wake up!!

Alastor: *begins to open his eyes, his voice weak* I-I was… I was going to the hospital! I-I thought— *he gasps in pain, his words choking off*

Lucifer: *carefully lifting Alastor’s head to assess the wound* You’ve lost too much blood. You need a doctor, now.

Alastor: *his eyes wide and unfocused* The twins… I can’t lose them! They’re— *he chokes on his words, his panic overtaking him*

Lucifer: *firmly* Stop moving, Alastor. You’ll only make it worse.

Lucifer presses his hand over Alastor’s stomach, a golden glow emanating from his palm as he attempts to stabilize him. The glow flickers as if struggling to take hold, and Lucifer’s jaw clenches in frustration.

Lucifer: *softly, almost to himself* Come on… come on.

Alastor groans, tears streaming down his face as the bond between them thrums with pain and fear. The doppler machine he had been holding lies shattered on the floor nearby.

Alastor: *his voice cracking* They’re not moving anymore… *he looks at Lucifer, desperation etched into his face* Please… help me…

Lucifer: *grits his teeth, tears building in his eyes* I won’t let this happen! Stay with me, Alastor!

With a snap of his fingers, Lucifer teleports them to the private hospital in the Sloth Ring. He carries Alastor into the emergency wing, his voice commanding and filled with authority.

Lucifer: *to the nearest doctor* He’s miscarrying twins and has a head injury. I want the best team now!

The medical staff scrambles into action, rushing Alastor onto a gurney and wheeling him into surgery. Lucifer follows closely, refusing to leave his side. As Alastor’s consciousness fades, he grips Lucifer’s hand tightly, his voice barely a whisper.

Alastor: *weakly* Don’t… don’t let them die…

As the operating room doors close, Lucifer had to stop, staying in the hallway, his fists clenched and his expression grim.

But in the out of his stomach he knew he’d been too late to save his sons.

[jollmaster]

I GO ASK KIDS

WHAT HAPPEEN MELANA'S BABY?

DO CHARLIE HAVE MORE KIDS

DO LUCIFER HAVE MORE

DO LILITH HAVE MORE KIDS

WHAT ARE SEVIATHAN AND HELSA'S KIDS LIKE?

AND MORE YOU HAVE MORE KIDS

OK I WANT WATER GOATS, I WISH I CAN HAVE WATER GOATS, SO THIS IS WHAT IF, WHAT IF SEVIATHAN AND CHARLIE HAVE KIDS, WHAT ARE THEY LIKE? YOU DON'T KNOW OR DON'T WANT THINK IT, IS OK

• Malena's son is OK, at least someone in this family is lucky

• he was raised by grandmother, alive at the time of the main events, lives in Milan, has a family, well-educated and has no idea what his grandfather and uncles were doing

• Charlie's only got Razzle and Dazzle so far (enough for her for now)

• Lucifer, of course, has sons and daughters from two other wives and little affairs

• Lilith has offspring not only from husband too, also from casual affairs and without a father; she's the mother of monsters for a reason

• at the same time Lucifer and Lilith have absolutely no claims to each other in this regard, they're like a light version of Zeus and Hera, where Hera isn't the goddess of marital fidelity (I've made Charlie's silly family tree to translate into english lol)

• children of Seviathan and Helsa look like something between tadpoles and octopuses when they are small, in general they are like their parents

• in terms of other: I mentioned, but Mimzy had a son when she was mortal woman, she misses him sometimes, wondering if he's already dead or still alive

• Husk also had children (five daughters and a son) and Vox too (one of them died in WWII); Vega got pregnant once, but wasn't upset when she miscarried

• if Charlie and Seviathan had married, they would have had absolutely adorable sea goats like this

[heartscfvalor]

@lettherebemonsters

"Adam?"

It was hard to track the passage of time, but Lilith knew it had been centuries since she and Lucifer had last seen the First Man. Obviously not on the best note -- the angels outing her love with Lucifer, before banishing her from the Garden, forcing her to miscarry for the first time -- but she had hoped that they would be kinder to her first friend.

And now he stood before her, tall and powerful and adorned with rather beautiful golden wings. But the look on his face was...cold.

How did one even start a conversation with someone you accidentally hurt? "I missed you"? "I hope you've been well"?

"It's...good to see you," Lilith offered instead, trying to give him a smile. "The angels had blessed you, I see. Is Eve with you?"

[annabawritersdream]

Enna's subconscious

Additional notes that did not fit in Enna's main character page.

Fancast: Anastasia Tsilimpiou

Although she is inspired by @lucifers-legions' own OC Finduilas (daughter of Boromir in her upcoming AU Garthad Estel and thus Enna's first cousin) and possibly shares some similarities with her personality-wise, in The Lady of Ithilien she is very much her own character. She often appears as a faceless character (hence why I chose a picture of her hair in the edit), but she can (and most certainly will) also show her face. Enna will ask her who she is but she never answers and, if she's inclined to address the matter, she will answer cryptically. She's basically a sort of Greek oracle, which is beyond fitting since actress Anastasia Tsilimpiou is actually Greek. Not that it matters, but it makes a lot of sense. Now, I am going to spoil a few things so brace yourselves (and forget everything later, please).

Enna marries Crown Prince Eldarion in FoA 16. She's only a teenager, they both are (reasons as to why this happens will be revealed later in the story so I won't go much into detail about it here). Eldarion is—my interpretation of the character, don't get mad—a spoiled, immature little boy who thinks he's entitled to everything because his dad is King. He's also abusive to Enna. While he is verbally abusive to almost everyone—he thinks everyone is beneath him so he can treat them as he pleases—he's also physically abusive to Enna and causes her, although accidentally, to miscarry their child. That's when her subconscious/Anastasia first kicks in. I actually may call her Anastasia if she ever decides to tell her Enna her name. I don't think she will but no one really knows. I changed my mind way too many times and one of the reasons I'm typing this right now is to sort of cement my thoughts in my chaotic, messy brain. She honestly could give her a bunch of random names—she knows Enna better than anyone else, she's supposed to be her conscience after all—and may even tell her that her name is Finduilas. After all, the female figures Enna values the most are all named Finduilas (her grandmother, her stepmother, her favorite daughter aka the one who's most like her and that truly understands her) and one should value their conscience as well. A person's conscience is their essence so...a very, very valuable part of a person. That's why she could also tell her that her name is Finduilas.

Anyway, she starts appearing in Enna's visions and dreams. She takes many medicines, concoctions and other herbal things to alleviate her pain (she's constantly sick even though she hides it very well) and she starts seeing stuff and hearing voices as a side effect. No, it's not schizophrenia, it's just whatever syrup the healers give her and the manifestation of her own child. She first meets Anastasia/Finduilas following of her very first baby (she's just fifteen), and Anastasia/Finduilas essentially tells her that she should be ashamed and that she killed her own son. She has become a murderer. I included those two sentences in the edit as well because it is what Enna hears the whole time. Each time she loses a child (she marries three times total), her conscience will be there to remind her that she's a murderer. She will be a reoccurring appearance until Enna's death and will harshly try to guide her in the right direction. Both Anastasia/Finduilas and her younger self will haunt Enna for the rest of her life. Though they mean well...they are obsessive, often intrusive and might actually cause her mental resolve to weaken even further. Poor girl truly has no chance. Her presence will probably cause Enna to cry even more and to act even more erratically (she wants her to leave but she also wants to make her proud to show her that she can become a better person) and will affect the relationship with her loved ones...for better or for worse. She's basically a ghost that haunts her and never leaves. Because how can she leave if she's supposed to be her conscience?

This is basically how the haunting occurs. The melody you hear throughout the scene is Enna's lullaby and it plays every time her conscience appears as a reminder of who she used to be (spotlight on Billie) and the innocence and kind-heartedness she allegedly lost. I could have added the scene from YouTube but this is the most important bit. The last part of the video (I didn't want it to be like this/you just wanted to protect them/you could have hugged your children etc..is especially fitting)

[primordialruin]

Honestly love the idea of Lilith being constantly accused of things she isn't doing.

They call her a harlot and seed waster.

Couldn't handle sex in Eden because she wasn't properly prepared for it. Gave it her best shot multiple times, but freaked out each time it happened. Might've been seductive, but may have not understood the entire extent of it back in the day. I'd call it tentative sensuality.

They call her a seducer.

She believes in your potential and is very candid about her intentions. It's endearing to a fault because she's extremely authentic. Is extremely accepting of the consequences that come her way when she is cunning. Her independence and ownership of herself is very attractive and was what drew Lucifer to her.

They call her a child killer.

Never killed a child intentionally. All of her pregnancies were unfortunately miscarried prior to reaching the term, barring Charlie. Might also be called this because she gave up being the mother of humanity.

They call her a murderer.

Surprisingly, her hands are clean. But she did murder everyone's chances at going to Heaven with the creation of Hell. It's definitely harder to get there now. Might also be tied to the exorcists who kill her denizens because they are sinners. Basically, the fault is projected on her.

They call her the accuser/the adversary.

While defiant, her arguments are actually sound, if a little morally grey. This is in complete antithesis to the order Heaven tried to uphold.

They call her a threat because of Heaven's overpopulation.

It isn't her fault, but there's a pretty big rumor going around that she wants to rebel against Heaven. The truth is that, while she is prepared for war, she is strictly on the defensive. She's not the threat. She's trying to RESIST it.

[alastors-airwaves]

Hi Adam✌️

Bunny: Okay my post got deleted and related posts also got deleted 😞 so I’m rewriting it here

Adam: Sup 🤙

Alastor: Why are you here?

Adam: Oh I’m here for my kid.

Alastor: Well I’m sorry for being the bearer of bad news but Lucifer miscarried the baby you were originally carrying.

Adam: Yeah I know. Kinda hard to not realize that when he’s apparently pregnant with someone else’s kid.

Alastor: If you know that then why are you here?

Adam: I already told you. I’m here for MY kid. As in the one I know you gave birth to.

Alastor: *tries to laugh* Oh not this nonsense again. Adam. My baby is not yours.

Adam: Yeah she is. Now give Daisy to me now!

Alastor: Daisy? How did you know her middle name? Her first name is —

Adam: Uh no! I will not have a child whose name is even remotely similar to that bitch.

Alastor: She was named after my mother.

Adam: Well your mother was —

Alastor: S A Y O N E M O R E W O R D A N D I ‘ L L T U R N Y O U R I N S I D E S O U T!

Adam: *stops talking* My bad. I forgot how you people get emotional over ‘rents. Glad I’m the OG Dad! Ain’t never had to worry about that.

Alastor: Your lack of discipline was already evident *sighs* Adam…you are mistaken. Evelyn is my daughter. Only my daughter. Now go away.

Adam: I know she’s mine Deer-boy. You can’t deny that. I know it was our fight that created her and I don’t want to be a deadbeat. So just…let me be around for her.

Alastor: You are not responsible for Evelyn. So you don’t need to worry about her.

Adam: GIVE ME MY FUCKING BABY!

Alastor: And you’re not welcome in this hotel! Goodbye! *uses shadow magic to throw Adam out of the hotel*

[firstwcman]

Miscarriage mention.

Lilith was four months pregnant at the time of the Fall, and Heaven was fully aware of that. The curse of infertility was the strike they personally took against the First Woman while running her man through with spears, and the brutal impact down into the Pit caused her to miscarry. The curse was triggered off the moment it happened, latching on deep as both Lilith & Lucifer felt the connection to their growing daughter vanish.

At the time, she had a small bump - she was showing. They both had to remove the growing baby together with their magic while dealing with their other injuries. It was harrowing.

Had she been allowed to carry on, Lilith would have been the world's First Mother as intended, but not with Adam's children - with Lucifer's. The world's first generation would have been Nephililm, and that was not at all in the grand design's plan. They were so excited, they had made their home upon the Red Sea beach and Lilith had found so much comfort in their freedom, both were elated to share this new world and possibility outside of the Garden with their child. It was their plan.

This loss was devastating, it was the first heartbreak they both shared, but it fueled Lilith's determination and spite to never allow Heaven to keep that claimed agency over her ability to have children. In time, she would try again, and again, and again. Charlie's birth was the biggest victory the mother had over Heaven, and any children to follow only flourish this success. She never did let them win - She & Lucifer had their baby.

[cakerybakery]

You’d be real ducked up? If heaven gave Lucifer the opposite curse. Like Lilith only miscarries, has stillbirths, or has monsters. But Heaven cursed Lucifer to be able to impregnate anyone he cums in.

It would be an attempt by heaven to punish them. Basically heaven going, good luck having sex now, you degenerate freaks!

Lucifer, about to invent the pull out method, “bitch you think that’s going to stop us?”

Anyways

Adam's mouth writes a cheque his ass has to cash and learns challenging the sin of pride was not a good idea.

The working title for this was Happy Father’s Day, as originally the story ended on Father’s Day.

[heartscfvalor]

The book was old, and honestly, Lilith didn't even know that Charlie had kept it. She had written it only for a child's point of view, to explain in simple terms why Hell existed and why the Exterminations happened; she had every intention of having those tougher discussions when Charlie got older, but then Roo had happened, and Lilith had lost so much time with her family...

"I wrote this when Charlie was very young and did not fully understand the circumstances of why these realms would hate each other," she said. "I had every intention of talking to her about it during her life, but I was kidnapped and tortured for the last century, if you'll be so kind as to remember."

Picking up the book, she dusted it off, frowning. "And Heaven turned you into a monster, Adam. Don't think I forgot the horrendous vile things you said to me every time I miscarried a pregnancy. Lucifer and I adored you, we were trying to save you, you refuse to listen to the truth. So forgive me that I stopped trying to reason with you. I was preparing Charlie for if she ever had to meet you, it would not be the sweet brother I knew from the Garden. It would be the egotistical creature that Heaven warped him into."

@heartscfvalor

" Than what, Lil? WHAT! You both betrayed me! I....I was fucking loyal to both of you but it wasn't enough! It's never enough!

Do you even know how many millenia I've spent SLEEPLESS because I keep asking myself why the the three people I'd have taken a bullet for just thought I was something too stupid to belong with them!"

Adam tossed something towards Lilith....a book. The History of Hell. Adam's eyes showed true pain in them as he spoke.

" That's what you really think of me, isn't it..."

[rainestorm2556]

Okay I’m watching Helluva Boss so enjoy some Lyra lore or whatever

Name: Lyra Vega

Name Meaning: constellation valley

Nicknames: Ly

Special Names: Darling(by Stolas), dear(by stolas), love(by Stolas), starlight(by Stolas), mom(by Octavia), sweet cheeks(by Angel Dust), tuts(by Angel Dust)

Zodiac: Taurus

Species: human(formerly), demon

Age at Death: 24

Year of Death: 1890’s

Pronouns: She/They

Gender: Female

Sexuality: Bisexual

Height: 7’6

Weight: 250 lbs

Body Type: Slim, curvy

Skin Tone: Pale, fair, slightly blue

Hair Length: Long(human), short(demon)

Eye Color: Pinkish-red

Cause of Death: Hung herself

Sin: Lust,

Backstory: Lyra grew up in a wealthy family, she was spoiled rotten. However, this caused her to be very unhappy, she was so rich and had so many people to do things for her that she felt there was nothing she could do, which led to her depression. She turned to sleeping with others as a way of seeking comfort during the great financial crisis. She did get pregnant by one of her many suitors once, but she thankfully and unfortunately miscarried. She continued to sleep with others, but it brought her no joy. She put on a brave face however, as she’d face scrutiny from others. They’d disapprove. Eventually her depression got the better of her, and she hung herself. You can see markings of it on her neck, and her skin is slightly muted. Despite her hardships, she did want a family of her own, she just wanted to find the one and settle down for life. She was a very attractive woman. She was confused upon her arrival in hell, but quickly adjusted. She found that she rather liked hell. Eventually she’d meet Stolas, and the two fell for each other, married(making her a princess of hell as Stolas is a prince), and had a daughter together, Octavia.

Personality: Very depressed, classy, a bit short-tempered, loyal

Appearance (Human): Brownish-green hair, fair skin, curvy, wavy hair, reddish-pink eyes, long eyelashes, pink lips, rosy cheeks, thick eyebrows, rope markings around her neck

Appearance (Demon): Short hair, tall, skin had a slight blue-ish tint, rope markings around her neck

Likes: Stolas, Octavia, music, sleeping with others, rope, string, Lucifer, Loo Loo Land, Lulu World, tea, roses

Dislikes: Blitzo, liars, cheaters,

Friends: Lucifer, Asmodeous, Fizzarolli, Angel Dust, Cherri Bomb,

Acquaintances: Millie, Moxxie, Sallie May, Husk, Tom Trench, Nifty

Enemies: Blitzo

Associates: Striker, Charlie, Vaggie, Alastor

Occupation: Princess of Hell, Resident of the Hazbin Hotel

Family: Stolas(husband), Octavia(daughter), unnamed parents, unnamed miscarried child

Soft Spots: Octavia, Stolas, Angel Dust, Charlie

Fears: Water, Alastor

Neutralities:

Annoying: Octavia’s attitude, imps, Charlie’s constant singing, Vaggie, Alastor’s voice

Darkest Secret: Her original pregnancy from when she was alive (revealed in episode seven via House of Admodeus, lyrics to where it’s reveleaed will be down below)

Mental Problems: Depression

Death: May 27th

Born: April 27th

Reasoning for Being in Hell: Extreme lust

Debut: Pilot(Hazbin Hotel), Loo Loo Land(Helluva Boss)

Fighting Style: usually gets others to do it for her

Abilities: Omits fire when angry

Weapons: guns, swords

Outfit: Thin, lacy, long, loose dress. Very airy, room for moving around.

Lyrics where her secret is revealed(WIP):

There’s something you don’t quite know about your wife

Back when she had a life

She slept around and around and around

And before she had the crown

Before she’d been buried six feet in the ground

She’d spread those legs for anyone

She thought it would be fun

Until there was something unexpected

She hadn’t been feeling good

What she found would shock her

She was pregnant with a child

But her actions were too wild

And when she saw that blood

Her tears were a flood

She’d miscarried

She lost her baby

Oh how purely tragic

So she used her “magic”

She just could not cope

So she grabbed some rope

She tied it around her neck

Her thoughts were not in check

She let out one last scream

As her neck went snap

Knowing she’d never see the child she bore on her lap

Oh how tragic

You gave it all up

You knew what that would do

And weren’t you the one who sought her out too

Yet you choose to have this affair with an imp

Honestly it’s most pathetic

You have a wife and you have a daughter yet you still choose to give it up for that d

It makes her sick

Almost as if your professing your undying love to her was a trick

How slick

You know she gave it all up

She was quite successful working for Valentino, Velvet, and Vox

She was sly and sneaky like a fox

And that quite honestly drew them in

You toyed with her heart for a bit

Then you broke it up tore it out and smashed it

How pathetic

It makes your precious Octavia sick

And you Lyra

It’s no wonder that they call you Ly when you kept this sick a huge secret

So big that you just couldn’t keep it

You went around and you spilled your guts out

But what’ll you do now

Now that it’s out

Was it really such an accident

Or did you happen to plan it

You just couldn’t bare the thought of having to wear the ring

But then the guilt surely took its toll

You no longer felt whole

You were so rich and so privileged until you broke

What a joke

Honestly I could choke

[pennypyro]

notes on Sandman Audible (act II)

did Death just threaten Desire?

-omgosh Paterson Joseph as Choronzon is something else

-wow thanks for letting us know how many dicks the demon has

-once again, an Angel played by Michael Sheen , with a flaming sword

-I’m imaging Lucifer taking piano lessons

-Norse gods with Scottish accents

-Michaelmas holidays ? In December? I thought Michaelmas was in September

-the matron‘s miscarried ghost baby is more disturbing in the audio than in the comic

-Hinchcliffe would’ve died when Neil Gaiman was probably still in school. Probably close to the same age

-I cried when Death showed up for Charles

-I didn’t know Gregory was wearing a dress during Cain’s act...in the comic all you see is his foot

-poor Abel

-so there were other members of the Justice League besides Wesley Dodds in Odin’s mini Ragnarok

-so Johanna Constantine also had a dead twin

-...was Johanna hoping to seduce Robespierre

-I’d read Thermidor twice before but I’d somehow forgotten about the other heads singing along with Orpheus

-for that matter I’d forgotten Johanna was the protégée of a cross dressing woman

-to paraphrase Jesus, those who live by the guillotine shall die by the guillotine

-as a listener I appreciate that the song of Orpheus is very beautiful; as a composer , that the melody is fairly simple.