#Lorch

[szpiankart]

Cleaned up a sketch from a few weeks ago while watching @purpledemonlilyposting 's vod when lorch complained about smug sai-chan. Challenged myself to make her even more smug for fun.

[stelliestell]

anyone else find it extremely weird that Lily keeps pushing this notion of Catra and Adora being sisters and in an incestuous relationship but thinks it's ridiculous that people are claiming her OCS, Saige and Assana, are in an incestuous relationship? Literally what is the difference between their circumstances and why are you so hellbent on falsely claiming a pair is incestuous when you yourself wrote a pair in an extremely similar manner? Trying to fight the incest allegations? It's not working.

[sillygoblinantics]

“Fuckyoufuckyoufuckyou that’s not how trauma works, Lily Orchard”

This is the last Lily critical thing I am willing to share. For context: this happened during one of Lily orchards korra streams, it was before she would release her video that I would not watch for mental health reasons, but yes this is how her streams are, so much dead air only filled with obnoxiously loud keyboard clacking, snorts, and little to no commentary.

I had been watching, while watching I caught her talking about… trauma and ptsd. I caught her (if for a moment) fully displaying her lack of genuine empathy and knowledge of the aforementioned topics. And then when the show actually has a great point about how to healthily heal and how it isn’t going to be immediate she says:

Fuck you, fuck you, fuck you. That’s not how trauma works!

As if she would actually know and have studied and actually fucking know what it’s like.

This moment had broke me… if you’ve read my essay about my healing you’d know. This is not a criticism of Lily orchard… this is me showing her true colors. I need you to see how her brain works I want you to understand how it works without getting too close and touching the metaphorical poop of this drama until you get the full vivid picture of her.

Ever since I’ve learned more and more about Lily and have truly seen and heard of the things she’s done I’ve been plagued by what I thought were the traumatic moments I felt I had eloquently unpacked and picked apart… actually reanimate and take new forms that have caused minimal spirals.

And if I’m going through this then imagine what Lily orchards victims and fans have gone and continue to go through. This isn’t about whatever card she’ll use to get away with her behavior this is addressing the actual danger of this woman.

If I ever post her again I’ll be dropping art I did as cathartic release (like the below image):

Lily clearly uses her “trauma” to hurt others. She’s transformed it into a weapon that only damages those she hits with it.

Catharsis is the key to the freeing metamorphosis of your trauma tho it may remain it weighs less as you transform more and more of it in a new way.

That transmutation can be anything, art, animation, music, sculpture and visual or physical media really! Even in writing. It’s why I like creative nonfiction as it’s really just explorative essays. Like this post you’re reading now!

So.

To wrap this up, let’s quote the gifted goose’s own mouth:

“Fuck you, fuck you, Fuck You. That’s not how trauma works, you can tell they never had it”

— Lily Orchard August 2024

[locrit-returns]

At this point, I think we need to recognize that Mikaila is a grown adult who has been with Lily for a bit now, and there is no sign of her leaving or not enabling Lily anytime soon.

She knows who she's dealing with and is grasping at straws to keep the popularity Lily has given her, and that's all.

She is complicit, and she is never going to wise up like Lizzy or Carousel did and just leave. At least, not any time soon.

exactly...

im not comfortable saying Morch is just riding her wife's coat tails... she seems very happy and proud to defend her wife... there is genuine love there and kudos to them for finding each other...

unfortunately... her loving and defending Lorch says a lot about her personality... none of it is good...

[sobri-k-eyt]

I find is hilarious that I haven't made a single post about Lorch, but am blocked by her. The woman takes her time to look through every note on anti-posts. Besides that being asinine and not good for mental health for someone, it's really just sad. True clown behaviour

[boss-the-goofball]

The Lorch 50 Villains Challenge!

Fuck it, I think this 50 Villain thing should be turned into a challenge.

I'm calling it "The Lorch 50 Villains Challenge!" where you have to name at least 50 villains who have a good point, but we'll actually give a definition for what counts as a villain with a good point and not use Lorch's three point margin.

Lorch's Margin/Criteria and what's wrong with it: 1. Have a point (Alright, that isn't the criteria we're looking for in the list. Any villain can or cannot have a point, but the point in question has to be Good) 2. Successfully avoid the issue of "Why are they a Villain?" (From a Meta perspective, it's because the writer wanted to have a Villain in their story that can challenge the Hero/Protagonist. 99% of the time the Villain is an Antagonist, but not all Antagonists are Villains. If the story clearly paints the character in question is a Villain, then that character is a Villain no matter what their motivations or end goal is. It's like trying to say a character like MCU Thanos is not a Villain) 3. Are Good (Subjective, not a valid criteria)

So instead we will be working with this criteria

The Villain has to have intentions that could be seen as Good from the viewpoint of an average person, but the way they go about achieving that end goal is what makes them a Villain.

Name 50 or more Villains who fall under that criteria and you have completed "The Lorch 50 Villains Challenge!"

I will give one example for if I were to do this list

Light Yagami - His ultimate goal at the beginning was to reduce crime. That is a fairly noble goal and can be seen as an overall good thing. But his methods of attaining that goal, using the Death Note to mass execute all criminals no matter what crime they commit, is not a good thing and what makes him a Villain. He views himself as the Judge, Jury, and Executioner and gives insight into how, despite breaking the law, the criminals are still human and we should value human life at the end of the day. And if those criminals were already on death row, then it should be left to the justice system that was put in place to make sure that the people are sentenced in accordance to whatever crime they commit. (Should one person decide execution for both a petty thief and a pedophile, thus making their crimes equivalent?)

[matt0044]

In regards to Steven Universe's "racism" problem, it's important to note that the co-creator of SU is Ian Jones Quartley, a black man, who also co-created the characters of Sugilite and Bismuth with Lamar Abrams, another black man.

Funny how Lily never brings up Quartley or Abrams when demonizing Rebecca Sugar as this "racist Nazi sympathizer".

Well, Lily's weird mentality here isn't an isolated incident. It's often the basis of a lot of fandom harassment be it to a whole creative team or just the creator/showrunner. Even when it's within a franchise subject to the whims of corporate oversight.

I made a post about it here: https://matt0044.tumblr.com/post/765687831922425856/the-showrunning-scapegoat-a-troubling-fandom

That's not even getting into Lily leveraging the whole "white people can't write people of color" mentality onto Rebecca Sugar to discredit her. Yes, there are social factor that give white writers more than a few stumbling blocks in crafting character not like their ethnicity.

Except that people of color did have a say on Steven Universe AND that Estelle, a very famous singer and Garnet's actress, gave her input too. There was communication and consultation here. But Lily just can't let go of her grudge.

[internet-angelmp3]

Lmao last night I had a dream that Lily Orchard hacked into my account, somehow found my deadname and started to call me by it AND got into contact with my parents. I wouldn't call it a nightmare because I wasn't exactly scared, I was honestly really confused and flabbergasted the whole time going "WHAT??? WHAT???"

[chimuet-isbell]

Lily Orchard basic way of thinking so you can understand better her pattern of discourse: When ever something on media doesn't turns out exactly as she wanted to she throws an endless tantrum that consists of excuse her toxic reaction by picking up a human being to blame for the decision she hated and makes up an entire narrative (disguised as moral superiority) to paint that human being as a horrible person.

[liquid-mechanic]

Lorch has never accepted criticism and that is the biggest red dlag

[liquidorcard]

I don't appreciate you escaping my pit mikaila. There are drawings to be done.

[stelliestell]

this ask is hilarious to me because I guess Lily knows us better than ourselves??? To be fair, I was a minor the whole time I was I fan of her sooo...maybe I never was a fan because I didn't have a developed brain? this literally makes no sense to me I literally created fanart of her and talked about her content to my family and friends but I guess since I wasn't ever publicly supporting her on social media I was never a fan??? She altered my brain chemistry and I apparently never was a fan? The rest of her response even tells the person to kill themself. anyone is disposable to her, whether they support her or used to support her.

Fuck. Off.

[locrit-returns]

Lily: Josh dated Inkrose when she was a minor and when I said it was fucked up he blackmailed me into silence.

Lorch Crits: Josh? If this isn't true, you should take legal action.

Lily: *deletes post*

Josh: That's a lie but I'm happy and want nothing to do with Lily, so I'm ignoring it.

Inkrose: Can confirm that Lily is lying.

Lily: Since Josh will not take legal action against me I feel safe doubling down on the fact that he was a pedophile who blackmailed me.

[sobri-k-eyt]

Yeah Lily claims she doesn’t know what her stalkers are doing but she 100% combs through her tag every day and checks all the notes and comments it’s nuts that’s why so many people address their posts like she might see it because she almost definitely will lol.

Legitimately! I've followed the Lorch stuff for a while, but never commented until EXTREMELY recently! And by a while, I mean I followed stuff before Sai came onto the scene. It's been insane how much things have ramped up, and I'm interested to see what the Joon video will do

[lilium-occidentale]

And there's a reason it isn't taken to the police. Go to them and ask one or two if they even know what discord (where some of the crimes are committed) is. Ask them what they can do about crimes committed hundreds of miles away. Ask them how much evidence you need.

9 times out of 10 you'll be stuck at "what's discord".

[matt0044]

Lily hates creative freedom.

So one aspect of Lily that goes under discussed is her beef with creators and their “vision.” One video revolves around it when it came to queer representation and claims that executive meddling was essentially good.

That creators like Daron Nefcy or (of course) Rebecca Sugar were better when they, apparently, had a producer reigning in their worst habits.

Because it’s not like executives getting antsy over SU’s wedding wasn’t what got the show cut short. It’s not like queer couples in kids shows are a roll of the dove whether they got the freedom to flourish like straight couples.

Lily seems to even think that The Owl House ended… because it ”slipped into serialization.”

Yes really.

Look, I don't think any work of art is perfect or for everyone but it should come from the heart at the very least rather than solely at the behest of a corporate executive.