#Lopmon’s Dark Evolution

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Image Description: A digital drawing of Lopmon's dark evolution in bad lighting. They stare directly in the camera with a ripped up green jacket and dead hand sticking out of their mouth. Blood stains their fur and horn at the top of its head. Their mouth is slightly open with their dead stare expression. The background is black. End Image Description.]

Day 6 of @surviveweek: Loss

[jeepers-its-the-void]

[emeraldthelynx]

Do you see my vision? Not just chosen children, but chosen Navis too!

I don't have too much of a plot yet, but, in typical Digimon fashion, a group of kids (Lan, Maylu, Dex, Yai and Chaud) get pulled into the Digital World against their will to save it. The difference this time is that they already have digital companions who get some major reformatting when entering the Digital World! The PETs get turned into Digi-PETs, but still have the ability to upload Battle Chips to give the Navis-turned-mons special attacks, kinda like the cards in Tamers. I haven't designed Digi-fakes before, but I do know I want the Navi-mons to get unique new evolutions despite their rookie forms being pretty normal.

I do have some reason when choosing the Digimon forms, (despite my Ghost Game bias...)

Megaman is a Gammamon because it has multiple evolution branches, including a dark form, much like Megman. Very simple explanation.

Roll is a Cutemon because it is a bunny, and is pink, and is cute. End of story. (I didn't want to use Lopmon because it wouldn't make sense without Terriermon.)

Gutsman is a Sunarizamon because I liked how bulky and ground-based it is. It also wasn't a partner Digimon, to the best of my knowledge, and I was trying for a bit of variety.

Glide is an Agoramon because I think it would be funny to have instead of a fluffy bunny knight, to have a fluffy bunny butler. Angoramon can also fly, and is big enough to carry people, which I think Yai would use to her advantage.

Protoman is a Gaomon because Saver's Gaomon won me over with his 'sir yes, sir!/yes, master!'s. (I had to doodle my point which is why ProtoGaomon gets a whole page to himself.)

If you want to talk to me about this idea, please do! Use the ask button or if you really want to, DM me. I really don't mind.

[rnsk-kousatsu]

"Becoming as One" and the Themes of Harmony in Digimon Survive

Overanalyzing Aoi and Shuuji again, because this is my new hobby ever since I played Survive.

They share many parallels, both obvious and subtle, that I feel are often overlooked. One of the lesser-discussed similarities is how their corruption arcs culminate in “bio-merging” with their respective partnermon, a process where the human and partnermon become a single entity. Since both characters are Harmony-aligned, I believe it’s worth exploring how these instances of bio-merging relate to and represent the themes of Harmony. More under the cut.

TWs: discussions of self-loathing and suicidal thoughts

Given that the partnermons are meant to reflect their human partner’s true self, I find it somewhat ironic that in two out of the three instances of bio-merging in Survive, the result paradoxically embodies a loss of self. While it makes sense when you consider the Harmony kids’ common thread of seeking conformity, one might expect that merging with one’s true self would lead to the realization of true selfhood. Instead, these unifications become vehicles of self-erasure, where the former self is submerged by a new identity, as they are represented as dark evolutions that occur when the ideals of Harmony are taken to an extreme.

To get what I mean, let’s consider Kaito’s corruption arc. Symbolically, Kaito letting go of Dracumon by fusing Vamdemon (Dracumon) with Piemon can be seen as him discarding his conscience to further his selfish desires without any regard for others. This makes sense to most of us easily, because we’re consistently shown how Dracumon acts as Kaito’s restraint throughout the story — his “moral compass”, if you will. Without Dracumon, there’s no one who can keep Kaito in check anymore. So, the “death” of Dracumon being the metaphor for Kaito going morally bankrupt feels pretty intuitive, at least to me personally.

In contrast, I didn't find the symbolism in Shuuji’s and Aoi’s corruption arcs—particularly their fusion with their partners—as immediately intuitive, for the reasons I’ve outlined earlier. However, after mulling over their arcs a bit more, I’ve come to the realization how both of them becoming one with their respective partner can actually carry multifaceted symbolism that may not be immediately apparent. Also, the different nuances in how the themes of Harmony manifest in their arcs mean that the symbolism works a bit differently in each of their arcs too. Let me explain.

First off, we’ll look at Shuuji and Lopmon. Shuuji’s arc revolves around his struggle with self-acceptance. Through his father’s relentless expectations, he’s always made to feel inadequate, and in turn it drives him to constantly force himself into an imaginary mold that he doesn’t fit into. He does this by repressing his true feelings while trying to live up to (what he believes to be) his father’s idea of a perfect self. His very apparent hatred of Lopmon is mostly meant to represent his self-loathing, among many other things — in a way, Lopmon serves as a reminder for Shuuji that he hasn’t truly changed into the person that his father wants him to be. This is why Shuuji keeps trying to force Lopmon to change as well, even if it means cruelly pushing him beyond his limits.

The outcome of Shuuji’s arc depends on whether he comes to recognize his mistaken beliefs. If he fails to do so, Lopmon evolves into Wendimon and devours him. As this post has already described, this scene serves as a metaphor for Shuuji succumbing to the self-hatred that has been eating away at him from within, leading to a complete loss of self. Because, in both a figurative and literal sense, no trace of Shuuji’s former, “true” self remains—just as there’s nothing left of the Lopmon we once knew in Wendimon.

Most people believe that this is the moment where Shuuji finally dies, but I think that isn’t the case. In Survive, the lore states that a partnermon dies the moment their human dies. However, Wendimon doesn’t die right after he completely consumes Shuuji, and instead, he gains the ability to speak. Make of this what you will, but in my opinion, this gives a clue that Wendimon being alive after consuming Shuuji isn’t merely a narrative convenience to keep him around for the fight, and that Shuuji has actually been absorbed into Wendimon. In other words, Shuuji and Lopmon are finally unified in their suffering as Wendimon, with Wendimon’s monstrous form serving as a visual manifestation of both Shuuji and Lopmon’s new identity, warped beyond recognition even to themselves.

If you pay close attention to Wendimon’s speech, you’ll notice that he actually speaks with two voices — both Shuuji’s and Lopmon’s. It can be hard to tell since the voices are heavily filtered, but Shuuji’s voice has a slightly deeper pitch than Lopmon. Even if you can’t tell, the story hints at this detail by showing how the other kids and partnermons can distinguish between the voices when Wendimon speaks.

“IT HURRRTS… I’M SCAAARED… I DON’T WANNA DO THIIIS…” “WHAT’S… WRONG WITH ME? WHAT SHOULD I HAVE DONE…?”

I bring this up because it’s intriguing how Wendimon speaks in dual voices despite supposedly being a single entity. It’s as if the story is trying to convey that, even in their merged state, Shuuji and Lopmon aren’t truly reconciled — and it’s because Shuuji hasn’t silenced the part of himself that continues to question and doubt. To understand this, notice how Wendimon wails about two entirely different things: in Lopmon’s voice, he cries about how he doesn’t want to do any of this anymore, how he’s scared of this and how it hurts. Meanwhile, in Shuuji’s voice, he rants about not knowing what he should have done to make others happy (but especially to please his father, as I believe his words are primarily directed at his father) and wonders if it’s better for him to disappear if his existence is a nuisance to other people. While Lopmon continuously voices Shuuji’s true feelings that he buries deep inside, Shuuji himself remains fixated on seeking external validation and is concerned about what others think of him even at the expense of his own well-being.

To understand why Wendimon having dual voices is relevant to this discussion in the first place, let’s now turn our attention to Aoi and Labramon. Aoi’s character arc revolves around her desire for authority and proactiveness, which she struggles with because her self-consciousness constantly holds her back from taking actions. This is largely why Aoi and Labramon’s dynamic is vastly different from Shuuji and Lopmon’s relationship, because while Aoi also represses the side of her that Labramon displays — whether subconsciously or not — Labramon’s outspokenness instead embodies the part of Aoi that she wishes she could express more freely but is suppressed by her insecurity.

When Aoi merges with Labramon, the situation is slightly different from Shuuji’s experience, though it carries its own tragic implications: in an effort to save Aoi, Labramon sacrifices her own “self” to become the new force that sustains Aoi’s life. Perhaps because it’s also fueled by Aoi’s overwhelming guilt and frustration over her perceived powerlessness, the act leads them to bio-merge and dark-evolve into Plutomon.

While not entirely analogous, I think it’s fair to make a comparison between Plutomon and Wendimon. The game itself does this as well: upon seeing Aoi becomes Plutomon and kills Piemon, Kaito instantly makes a remark of Aoi becoming like Shuuji. In English, the line is worded as:

“Don’t tell me this is like with Shuuji… When he turned all evil!?”

However, in Japanese, the line is:

“まさか……シュウジのように……暗黒進化か！？” “Don’t tell me… she’s become like Shuuji… is it a dark evolution!?”

It’s interesting to me that Kaito immediately draws a parallel between her and Shuuji. And I have to emphasize that it’s specifically Shuuji, not Lopmon. I’m saying this because they all perceive Plutomon as Aoi instead of Labramon (the game emphasizes this too by having Plutomon’s name initially written as “Aoi?”), whereas we (as the players) tend to perceive Wendimon as Lopmon instead of Shuuji. See where I’m getting at here?

“Aoi, you say? No, I’ve cast off that weak persona.”

Now, unlike Wendimon, who retains both Shuuji’s and Lopmon’s voices, Plutomon speaks only with Aoi’s voice. One interpretation that we can draw is that, unlike Wendimon, the singular voice might represent Aoi and Labramon reaching a true level of mutual understanding and harmony where they don’t have to speak over each other in order to be heard. But I think there’s more to it: given that Labramon is consistently depicted in the story as voicing Aoi’s inner thoughts that she keeps holding back from expressing, I think this is meant to also symbolize her internal resolution where she no longer has the need to externalize her inner thoughts through Labramon, as she now fully embodies those thoughts herself. This might seem empowering at first, seeing how her newfound confidence seems to have conquered her lingering self-doubt that used to haunt her. However, on the other hand, the loss of Labramon’s separate voice means that Aoi has lost an external perspective. The implication is that Aoi is now entirely self-reliant, with no external check on her thoughts or actions. In other words, Aoi has lost the ability to see herself from an outside perspective that used to keep her grounded and connected to the world outside herself.

“Labramon agrees, from deep down inside me.”

(I put the screenshot above because I find it interesting — I think the fact that Aoi speaks on behalf of Labramon, rather than letting Labramon speak for herself, further supports the interpretation of Aoi having absorbed Labramon’s voice into her own, leaving no room for external input anymore.)

This ultimately leads Aoi to form a singular belief system, one that’s entirely shaped by her internal convictions. And it drives her into a dangerously inflexible mindset where any form of disagreement or differing perspective is perceived as a threat to her newly discovered harmony. In her mind now, the only way to ensure peace and unity is to eliminate the possibility of conflict altogether by merging everyone with their partnermon, creating a single, unified consciousness. And Aoi is absolutely resolute in this, because she has now isolated herself in her certainty by silencing other voices, becoming rigid and intolerant of any challenge to her worldview — one rooted in a distorted sense of harmony that results in a situation where disagreement is eradicated, not resolved.

Some of you might find it ironic that, despite supposedly embodying the corruption of harmony, Aoi (as Plutomon) seems to act more on her own selfish ideals rather than striving for true consensus, even if flawed. However, this makes sense when you contrast her motivation with Shuuji’s: while Shuuji is driven by external pressures and doesn’t necessarily “enjoy” conforming to others’ expectations, Aoi’s actions stem purely from her own self-imposed ideals. Aoi genuinely values social propriety and seeks to uphold it (as @digisurvive puts it, she’s the reason why the group is very hierarchical — she always makes sure that everyone follows the rules of conduct properly), so it’s natural that the themes of Harmony would manifest this way in her corruption arc. So, while Shuuji being absorbed into Wendimon through devouring represents the ultimate death of self, Aoi’s bio-merging with Labramon into Plutomon instead gives her an epiphany of her ideal version of “Harmony”—one she feels compelled to enforce on everyone.

[digi-lov]

We talked about the Twin Digimon last week. This week, I wanna take a closer look at their (standard) evolution lines.

As you can see, they each have a "regular" and a "dark" evolution line. In Lopmon's case, the "dark" evolution line specifically has a corruption theme. This is, of course, because Lopmon and its entire "dark" line were designed for the movie Hurricane Touchdown, which had its corruption as the main plot point. As a result, Lopmon's lines are very different from each other, while Terriermon only gets simple classic recolors.

Possibly the most corrupted among them is Wendimon.

Wendimon first gets introduced in the movie, and it posesses a chilling presence throughout all of it. However, not just Hurricane Touchdown, but all iterations of Wendimon, across the franchise's media, depict it as somehow corrupted beyond reason, usually not even being able to talk in cohesive sentences.

I wanna take a short moment to talk about its name origin. I'll not delve into too much detail, as I'm sure there are more educated people on this topic, but Wendimon is named after an evil spirit from Anishinaabe cultures, which name you are not supposed to say, as to not draw the spirit to you. I just wanted to share, in case some of you weren't aware.

But, moving on

The "regular" adult levels Gargomon and Turuiemon. Comparing the two, I really like how Gargomon has a long-range armed combat theme and Turuiemon a close-range combat theme. Gargomon, as mentioned before, appeared in Hurricane Touchdown and appeared plenty in Tamers as Jian's partner. Turuiemon, unfortunately, didn't have any big appearances until recent years. It had its debut in December 2001 as a card in Hyper Coloseum, in a Tamers themed booster.

Next up are Lopmon's perfect Level evolutions, Antylamon and Antylamon (Deva). The original Antylamon from Hurricane Touchdown is a Virus type. For Tamers, they decided to have Antylamon as the Deva representing the Hare, and so a Data type variant was created. It had its debut in Hyper Coloseum, in a booster featuring all Deva, a month before first seen in the anime at the end of 2001. The biggest visual difference is the purple scarf of Antylamon (Deva), but it also has a crest, like all Deva, on its chestplate (more on that maybe at some point?). Video games predominantly feature Antylamon (Deva) over Antylamon (Virus).

Now, if you remember, Terriermon and Lopmon were specifically designed for the movie Hurricane Touchdown. With Terriermon first showing up in its child form and Lopmon in its adult form, Wendimon, Gargomon and Antylamon are each twins' first evolution we get to see them actually evolve into during the movie. Because of this, it's interesting to me that these two share a distinct symbol, Antylamon on its arms and Gargomon on its face.

Another evolution we get introduced to in the Hurricane Touchdown movie is Rapidmon (Armor). Most people are probably more familiar with the green Perfect level Rapidmon as we see it in Tamers. Looking at the Digimental of Fate, you can see the classic Armor Digimon - Digimental resemblance. Rapidmon's abdomen comes from the sphere part of the Digimental, the base below that resembles its boots, and the wing on top resembles the ear-wings. Because the Perfect level Rapidmon uses essentially the same design, the jump from Gargomon to Rapidmon seems a lot bigger than the one from Terriermon to Gargomon. On a little side note, the official Bandai artwork of Rapidmon (Perfect) has an open helmet, even though the anime uses a closed helmet like the Rapidmon (Armor). BlackRapidmon, despite being a recolor, has a closed helmet as well.

Lastly, a short look at Cherubimon (Virtue) and Cherubimon (Vice). Both of them, again, debuted in the movie Hurricane Touchdown, which influenced their design. We get to see the corrupted, mad Cherubimon (Vice) first and only briefly see it in its Cherubimon (Virtue) form.

I believe the simple but effective changes between their designs were in part to allow this nice transition at the end of the movie.

The Lopmon line, especially, gets used in a lot of media for the sake of corruption/dark evolution story lines. Most noteworthy, Cherubimon (Vice) is the (first) main villain in the Digimon Frontier Anime season.

[scrubf1re]

I think I’ve figured out the reason why I prefer Meiko’s Meicoomon over Wallace/Willis’ Lopmon.

If you’ve been in the digimon fandom long enough you’ve probably seen/hear comparisons between Wallace/Willis’ Lopmon from Hurricane Touchdown and Meiko’s Meicoomon from tri.

The similarities between both of them that plenty of digimon fans have pointed out are that they are both partner digimon with uncontrollable evolved/digivolved (or in Meicoomon’s case mutated) forms with their respective human partners going through character arcs about realising that for as much as they love their partner digimon and how much it pains them to do so, they’re too dangerous to let live so they end up letting them die to save everyone and put them out of their misery (I have seen some people compare Meicoomon to Yujin's Offmon but I feel Offmon is more comparable to Ryo’s Monodramon and I’ve already made a rant comparing those two). Keep in mind that for this comparison I’m only looking at the partner digimon themselves and not their human companions since I actually like both Wallace/Willis and Meiko which unfortunately I cannot say the same for the partner digimon and I’m going to go over where I felt Meiko’s Meicoomon succeeded where Wallace/Willis’ Lopmon failed. And the reasons are actually a lot more simple than you’d think. My biggest problem with Lopmon and by extension Hurricane Touchdown as a whole is how little character and personality Lopmon has outside of the fact that he’s a partner digimon under the effects of a virus and having undergone a dark evolution/digivolution which can be attributed to how little screentime Lopmon’s personality outside of his dark evolution/digivolution. That aspect of Lopmon’s character only gets two scenes dedicated which is strange given that Lopmon’s dark evolutions/digivolutions get plenty of screen time which can be attributed to bad pacing on Hurricane Touchdown's part. I do think it’s a little weird how I seem to be the only person who has this complaint with Lopmon that I know of.

First is the flashback involving Wallace/Willis, Terriermon and Lopmon’s backstory and how he turned into Wendimon/Wendigomon.

And the second being before he dies and... that’s all we get to see of what Lopmon’s character is like outside of his dark evolutions/digivolutions. The only two personality traits I could get from both of these scenes are that he’s childlike and playful which doesn’t even enough to stand out amongst the other partner digimon in the adventure continuity since plenty of other partner digimon have shown traits of being childlike and playful (as well as those two traits not even being their only character traits including Meicoomon). I’m a firm believer in the idea that there is a huge difference between a character being simple (for example Jo/Joe’s Gomamon comes to mind as while being undeniably simple, as he’s rather brash, confident and loud to contrast his partner) and a character being underwritten (I’ve already criticised Ryo’s Monodramon for more or less the same thing before) and unfortunately in a story where we are supposed to feel sad when Lopmon dies I don’t think it’s an unreasonable thing to criticise said story if the character dying doesn’t have much character to begin with.

In comparison Meicoomon has plenty of scenes where we get to see what her character is like outside of the fact that she’s the source of the infection and how her mutations have much more violent personalities. The first 20 minutes of part 2 of tri being a great example of this since even when we limit ourselves to just the first quarter of determination since we see multiple different traits of Meicoomon such as her having a tendency to wonder off on her own, being easily scared, playful, being rather dependent on Meiko and naive despite being an adult/champion level. These aren’t even the only times we get to see the traits as they are more consistent than you’d think since we actually do see them again in later points in tri including flashbacks.

I don’t think it takes a genius to see where I’m coming from since a lot of the points I made in Meicoomon’s favour can basically be attributed to the fact that Hurricane Touchdown is only a single movie whereas tri is 6 OVAs (or 26 episodes if you’re watching it on a streaming service like crunchyroll and other examples that I don’t feel like typing down). I feel like another contributor is the fact that when we first see Lopmon in Hurricane Touchdown he’s already dark evolved/digivolved into Wendimon/Wendigomon whereas when we first see Meicoomon in tri it’s kept a mystery as to what her importance to the plot is which is why she gets so much more screentime dedicated to establishing what her character is like compared to Lopmon who only gets a single flashback and 1 scene afterwards.

Because of this, it’s way easier to get sad over Meicoomon’s death since we actually get a decent amount of screen time to what her personality and character is like outside of the infection (which is still a simple character mind you, but being a simple character is not the same as being badly and/or underwritten).

A point I have seen some people made in Lopmon’s favour in comparison to Meicoomon that I don’t really seem to get is that when Lopmon dies he briefly becomes Cherubimon (Virtue) before disappearing whereas Meicoomon doesn’t briefly become Rasielmon when she dies. The reason I don’t get this criticism towards Meicoomon is that the people I’ve seen make this complaint claim that her not becoming Rasielmon means she wasn’t purified when she died even though Meicoomon appearing in her regular non mutated self could also be interpreted as her being purified since that’s what Meicoomon is like when she’s not a rampaging mutated digimon. Gonna be honest this complaint feels more like an excuse to complain about a lesser known digimon not getting their anime debut in a scene where if that did happen... you’d change absolutely nothing about the story other than Rasielmon waving goodbye to Meiko (a digimon Meiko’s never seen before mind you) instead of Meicoomon before disappearing. Honestly if Cherubimon (Vice) briefly turned back into Lopmon instead of Cherubimon (Virtue), you’d change absolutely nothing about Hurricane Touchdown’s plot since Cherubimon reverting back into Lopmon could still be interpreted as him being purified anyways. I dunno this complaint feels very surface level and difficult for me to agree with given the points I’ve made. Anyways TLDR: the reason why I feel Meiko’s Meicoomon is better written than Wallace/Willis’ Lopmon is that Lopmon is extremely underwritten outside of the fact that he’s a partner digimon under the effects of dark evolution/digivolution and that digimon’s personality and character outside of that has way too little screentime anyways whereas Meiko’s Meicoomon doesn’t have the same problems. I don’t really know what else to type here.

[otakween]

Digimon Frontier - Episode 48

Lol, I'm so done with this show, the writing in this episode was so stupid. Everything felt like an ass pull. I'm also very underwhelmed by them using the same weak-ass digivolutions they've been using since the first dozen of episodes on the final boss (especially Chackmon and Fairymon, sorry, but no). Then again, Digimon is always doing nonsense like that. The only thing I'm looking forward to now is the epilogue, the final battle just feels like something I gotta get through.

Notes:

So Lucemon FD Mode just destroyed everything so he could rebuild (including all the moons), but now he's like "jk lol I'm aiming for the human world instead." I can't tell if he's going for both or just realize the human world was a better prize.

The kids barely reacted at all when Bokomon told them what LordKnightmon said about Koichi. I guess it's underwhelming news after you've just witnessed the apocalypse, but I expected an "oh no!" at least lol

Some deus ex machina nonsense going on left and right. A fireball conveniently strikes Bokomon's lore book at the perfect time to reveal hidden text about the consequences of digimon entering the human world. Then Patamon, Plotmon, and Lopmon are like "light and dark gotta combine if you want to defeat Lucemon, duh!" as if that's common knowledge they knew all along. Why didn't they say something sooner!?

I don't remember there being anything about digimon causing distortions in the human world in Adventure, but that was definitely a thing in Tamers. I'm not sure which I prefer. The drama is kinda better in the latter but I miss digimon hanging out in the real world without consequences ;w;

What is Lucemon's "Dead or Alive" lol sexy volleyball game supposed to represent? It looks like a 3D cypher or something. Wondering what that has to do with "light and dark combined"

Again...seeing them use super weak "beginning of the season" attacks was painful. We're on episode 48 of 50 gdi! >:/

Lots of "dramatic anime nudity" (when nudity is used to make people look ethereal) in this one. It was hard to take seriously ngl (I'll just assume they didn't see Koichi's junk cuz he was too shiny lol). I noticed they censored Koichi a bit in the dub which was funny.

Uh...the name of the episode is "light and dark combined," Lucemon monologues about combining light and darkness...and then Takuya and Koji combine (fire and light) -_- I know that Koichi was somewhere in the mix too but...it doesn't show up in Susanoomon's design, so it felt awkward and anticlimactic

Speaking of Susanoomon. I do like his design, it seems like a really even mix of Takuya and Koji's digivolution elements. I think the ornament on his back (is it a sun?) really brings things together. I don't really like his tiny head though.

RIP to Koichi I guess? I bet he'll come back in some form or another

Edit: hilarious comment on MAL (credit: ETHEREALEVIL): "Tbh Koichi was cursed to die from the start his slide evolution is KaiserLeomon"

[ask-digimon-hunters]

Nick finally finished his lessons with Gankoomon, and now he believed that he could get Lopmon back. After half an hour of walking he finally saw her, he never liked seeing the dark evolutions of any Digimon. He finally came across her.

“Coco?” He said towards her in a questioning tone.

“Nick, alive.” Wendigomon said, putting her hand on his face as if to check if he was real.

Nick reaches up and grabs her hand. Then suddenly a gray Dynasmon jumps out of the trees. “Well, this one is ruined, if I kill her, Zwart will never know.” It says to itself.

Wendigomon steps in front of Nick, going to defend him, then Nick steps beside her.

“I have a plan Coco.” He says to her.

Link Digivolution!!

Erlangmon stands beside Gardermon. Gardermon looks down at her hands as if surprised that this happened. They look at each other and nod. Erlangmon swings their weapon around themselves, creating a barrier preventing Hallow Dynasmon from leaving, then Gardermon jumps in to take him down.

[thebl00dmaster]

Limbus Tamers

The limbus brainrot is terminal and digimon has been worming its way back so why not combine the two together. I’m not the biggest Digimon nerd (mainly watched some Adventure, 02 and Tamers and played Digimon world 3 and Cybersleuth) so I’ve been using Wikimon to help with the evolution lines, while  yes I could just mix and max anything I tried to use Digimon that actually evolve into one another.

I may do another one with Dante, Charon and Vergilius plus any Sinner I want revisit. So onward to my dubious picks!

For Yi Sang I chose this line mostly for his desire to have wings and his association with crows. Plus Yatagaramon is cool.

For Faust I focused on her witch imagery, what with her base E.G.O. giving her a broom and her codename being Walpurgisnacht, and her vast knowledge with Impmon being a stand in for Mephistopheles (I know Mephismon exist I already had settled on witchmon and needed a rookie). AncientWisemon could have gone to Yi Sang since he invented the mirror we use to pull the gacha but it still have that sorcerer vibe.

For La Creatura I settled for the Guilmon line mostly because Gallantmon/Dukemon, being a Royal Knight, fitted with her knightly delusions and also because I remember Guilmon going feral at some points in Tamers. Plus if we go for Dark Digivolutions,when Don completely snaps she could go down the Megidramon (or even ChaosDukemon) route similarly to Takato.

I hesitated a bit with Ryoshu so I ended doing both ideas: I kinda cobbled this one together trying to concile her ties to fire (her E.G.O inflict burn,the “cooking” of the Kebab and that one picture of her burning everything using as her steed) and art with Etemon being a singer and Piedmon being a clown (and circus artist in general).  Plus the Dark Master have throwing knives/swords. 

This one was more was more based on her swordplay and the fact she’s ... ok maybe not “honourable” but she’d rather not do it the “coward’s way”, she straight up refused to disguise herself during the casino heist and wanted to face the Shi assassin head on in Canto IV. So Musyamon popped into my mind and then went up the evo line to try and keep the samurai/ronin theme and Kunemon is here because I couldn’t use Kotemon as it doesn’t digivolve into Musyamon. 

Mr Salt got the Andromon line because he’s very robotic at times, a cog in the machine if you will, plus he is a tank of a man so Guardromon fits well. Also I thought it would be funny if somehow the machine Digimon ended up being more prone to make judgements than its human partner. 

I didn’t know where to go with Hong Lu, I tried with the Devas and little more with Lopmon’s line then I saw QueenChessmon and went “Chess is pastime for hoity-toity rich folk and Hong Lu is a rich boy” and went from there. Not really satisfied but it just clicked in the moment. ... If Hong Lu is playing some 5d chess with us I SWEAR TO -

Another double feature with the other sinner with double seats privilege ... this was completely incidental. This one is based on the brutish side of Heathcliff though Ogremon can be cunning as can our angry british. Titamon is also connected to revenge (specifically against the Olympos XII) so it fits as well. I know Rebellimon doesn’t digivolve to Titamon but fuck it ! I didn’t want Digitamamon on here and that’s the only exception I made, I just wanted to keep mean green demon all the way.

This one came frame from a flash about Telepole Heathcliff and since He’s a bastard I couldn’t him give a regular Gabumon.

I just had to give Fishmael a Whamon because of Moby Dick. As for the rest: I picked Gomamon because I thought it’d be funny to have a laid back partner with how rigid she can be; Dolphmon to transition between Gomamon and Whamon and Plesiomon because it’s a traditional Mega for Gomamon alongside Vikemon.

I must admit being stumped and just going “Waifumon go !”. Might revisit her with a more fitting line sometime.

For Sinclair at first I wanted to give him an avian line then stumbled upon Tsukaimon digivolving into Pidmon and went “time to go the angel route” as a spin on Patamon. Outside of MagnaAngemon (and Angewomon for that matter) I tried not to use Adventure/02 digimon. I picked Dominimon but hesitated between it, ClavisAngemon and SlashAngemon.

For Outism I first wanted to have an Olympos XII member then wondered whether or not there was a trojan horse digimon, Lo and behold there was ! As for the rest I worked my way down : Cherrymon being a duplicitous tree (he tried to manipulate Yamato during the Dark Master arc) fit Outis being suspicious, kiwimon is kind of a filler pick and Alraumon is a fake Palmon. 

Finally for Gregor I picked the Wormmon line though with some changes. I chose Snimon instead of Stingmon to harken to G Corp Gregor and while there’s a roachmon I felt it was too on the nose. As for Bloomlordmon I hesitated with going with GranKuwagamon or HeraclesKabuterimon but leaned more on this one mainly to distance a bit from bugs since Gregor has two plant based E.G.O.

That should be it for now.

[kitty8804]

What if the Danganronpa V3 Characters Were Given Digimon? Pt 2

Part 1, Part 3 , Part 4(I will add links as I get more done)

Hello everyone I am back! The only reason that this was was done relatively quickly was because I already had the digimon of this character planned, and I had a lot of free time. I just thought adding them last post would make it too long. I explain what the heck I am doing in part 1 so go check it out. But I do want to clarify a couple things I did not make clear in the first post.

1. Almost everyone will be given a dark digivolution of some kind. (There will be a couple exceptions that I will explain if I do those characters.) Since Danganronpa has a hope vs despair theme I think having an evolution that represents despair would be fitting. It is not a default digivolution though. It’s an Agumon to SkullGreymon scenario. They can happen at any stage (except rookie) since a dark digivolution has happened at least once in every stage in digimon media. So different characters are going to have dark digivolutions at different stages. Alternate evolutions (not dark ones) are a possibility but not a guarantee.

2. I will be doing my absolute best to not include repeats. If I do repeat it will only be one digimon in the line. But I will be more lenient with that rule if I do end up doing characters from different casts. This is mostly because a good handful of characters have similar (or in some cases the same) Ultimate talents, which do play a huge part in my decision process.

3. I realized that while making this post tumblr will only allow me to use 10 images per post. This is obviously a problem if I want to include pictures of a full digivolution line, including dark digivolutions and alternate forms, and the character. This makes it almost impossible for me to do more than one character with everything that I want in one post. So I will have to do only one character per post. But since some might take more thought than others, or I just really want to do more than one, separate posts could be posted on the same day.

Kaede Akamatsu

Before I start can I just say how hard it was to find digimon for Kaede! I wanted a music theme since she is the Ultimate Pianist and I knew trying to find something piano themed would be impossible. I did not realize that the most well know music themed digimon are the Gekomon line and I didn’t think they suited Kaede. When I thought I had something that kinda worked the Ultimate ruined it, so I had to scramble to find something that works. So her digimon line might seem a little odd but I think it works.

Rookie: Cutemon

After a lot of searching once I remembered Cutemon I thought that it would be a good rookie for Kaede. I believe that Kaede likes adorable things and Cutemon definitely fits into that category. Also since a lot of her color scheme is pink I figured a pink digimon would work well. Cutemon also has headphones which can kind of relate it back to the music/sound theme that I originally wanted. Rabbits also have big ears and have sensitive hearing which can tie back into music? I know it’s a stretch but like I said there are not a lot of music themed digimon and even less that fit Kaede. I briefly thought about using Shoutmon, but quickly decided that Cutemon was a better fit. (Shoutmon would be a better choice for a certain musician) I can totally see Kaede constantly cuddling and hugging this digimon because Cutemon is just so adorable.

Champion: TeslaJellymon

Yeah this is when things are starting to get a little weird for this evolution line. I originally wanted to use Turuiemon and then the rest of the default Lopmon line after. While I still think that would have worked there was a certain ultimate that was so perfect for Kaede that I needed to use it. While digimon do not need a super obvious or coherent transition, I still think that after I reveal the other digimon in the line many would agree that the transition from Turuiemon would have been a little wack. So I had to find some way to connect Cutemon to its future Ultimate. I thought about Seahomon since it’s head kinda looks like a trumpet and it can tie into the music theme, but that had the same problem as Turuiemon. Not as bad, but I wanted something better. In the end I figured that TeslaJellymon was the best choice. You can kinda see Cutemon in there. The antennae look similar to rabbit ears, the tentacles (?) look similar to Cutemon’s scarf, and the bits of pink kinda look like Cutemon burst out of its own fur. I actually think that the sweet Cutemon being given a more mischievous Champion form serves as a good parallel with Kaede. A lot of people look at Kaede as see a very cute, sweet, and innocent girl. While the first 2 are true Kaede is far from innocent. This can be seen through her more … perverted side of her personality. Have you seen her interactions with Tsumugi? She is very dirty minded! This can also be seen through her trying to kill the mastermind. TeslaJellymon also easily leads into an aquatic theme that will be very important for the transition into the Ultimate and Mega. 

Ultimate: Sirenmon

Ah yes the digimon that is the cause for all my grief. This digimon is the whole reason I had to revamp Kaede’s digimon line. Once I found out that Sirenmon existed I knew that I needed to give it to Kaede. Sirenmon fits into the music theme that I wanted for Kaede perfectly! It even has music notes in its design! It’s a perfect fit! But obviously going from a fighter rabbit to this bird/fish to another rabbit was not going to work, which is why I dropped the idea of using most of the Lopmon line. Since TeslaJellymon is a jelly fish and Sirenmon has fish-like characteristics I figured that the aquatic theme would provide a smooth enough transition. Sirenmon is also super adorable like Cutemon and I think it and Kaede would get along well.

Mega: AncientMermaimon

So the Mega left me kinda stuck for a while. I originally wanted to use Cherubimon Virtue, but I already explained why it wouldn’t work. So I decided to stick with the aquatic theme and use AncientMermaimon. Mermaids are commonly associated with songs and sirens, so it can kinda fit into the music theme I wanted. I could have gone more of the bird route with FrosVelgrmon, but other than the fact that it looks like it can be in the same line as Sirenmon there is no other good connection for it. It doesn’t really connect to Kaede at all. At least AncientMermaimon has some connection with Kaede working for it, even if I am searching for crumbs at this point.

Now it’s time for a dark digivolution. So I will once again be going into fanfiction/anime mode. I feel like the cause of her dark digivolution would be very similar to Tai and Takoto. Kaede can be very pushy and will get tunnel vision so bad that she won’t notice the problems that she will cause others. Her intentions are good, but everyone just ends up suffering. This can be seen through her insistence of the cast to keep going through the death road of despair, despite everyone repeatedly failing and getting injured. I can totally see her trying to force her partner to digivolve either because she is in a rush to get stronger or something bad happens and in her rush for revenge she forces her partner to digivolve to Cherubimon Vice.

Now that Cherubimon idea I had can finally be put into use. We lose the aquatic theme, but still think this works as a good dark mega for Cutemon. Not much for me to say. Cherubim on Vice is one of the most well known examples of a dark digivolution. Just the idea of something so cute turning into something so evil fits Kaede really well for some reason.

I will admit this line might not be the best pick, so feedback is always appreciated. I know the sudden aquatic theme may seem weird, (especially if I do a certain swimmer eventually), but I still think they managed to fit Kaede in some way. Sadly no alternate evolutions in this line. I just couldn’t find a lot to go off of, and I didn’t want to cause more suffering than this line already did.

[aanabear2803]

If anyone is ever curious on what my fav digimon is

If yall have ever seen Lopmon and its branching evolution from either light or dark youd know why 🫡

[sluggybasson107]

[Image Description: A profile drawing of Shuuji Kayama and Lopmon's dark evolution looming over his head. From the waist up, Shuuji is drawn dully with a depressed expression and dark under his eyes. He looks down as a shadow of Lopmon's dark form hunches over him. Their eyes glow red as their head is above Shuuji's. The background is a gradiant of white to grey. End Image Description.]

Digimon Survive Week 2024 – Day 6: Dark/Loss

so I can pretend I actually participated in Survive Week (anyway, it can apply to day 5 too if you stretch it enough?)

@surviveweek

[not-too-many-eyes]

Finally Finished Chapter 5 of Survive and OH BOY I HAVE THOUGHTS ABOUT SHUUJI!

Thoughts under the cut content warnings for discussions of self-hatred and suicide and uh Chapter 5 ending stuff. Thoughts May Change Who Knows

I remember reading in an interview a month ago I think that the Digimon are reflections of the human in Digimon Survive so Shuuji immediately caught my attention for his terrible relationship with his partner. Chapter 5 takes all of that Shuuji-Lopmon tension and goes "hey let's make this really fucked up mate."

So they did.

Shuuji gets eaten by Lopmon's Dark Evolution, which, emotionally is Something.

Shuuji sucks he's a coward, he's bossy, he always escalates conflict no matter how hard he tries not to, and consistently makes a situation worse, and he always wants to be the leader and he gets really really mean about it, and it's kinda hard not to hate him considering he's both verbally and eventually physically abusive to Lopmon.

But...Shuuji is not simply a terrible person, I'm not saying he's a GOOD person but he didn't wake up and decide "Lopmon is the the worst thing in existence which gives me the right to bully and mistreat him." he's hurting Lopmon...because Lopmon reminds him of himself.

Shuuji talks a lot about his "uselessness" in Chapter 5...the thing he's been ascribing to Lopmon this entire game, and even then Shuuji does cry a lot and tends to get really scared and isn't the greatest leader but he's obviously trying to make sure everyone is alive...just like Lopmon. Simply put Lopmon is a Mirror he can Punch Twice.

Really him getting eaten by Lopmon is...a very literal metaphor for Shuuji as a character, Shuuji is at his lowest moment, and in that moment his self-hatred and feelings of uselessness and despair and unresolved anger take over him and eventually it consumes him whole.

Lopmon and Shuuji even speak as one being after Lopmon consumes him, the things Lopmon feels are the same things Shuuji Feels, and that's Really Damn Interesting,

And also really depressing cause they constantly talk about how much they hate themselves and should die and how scared there are I just felt extremely sad reading those words knowing that information. Shuuji isn't a great person but I can't help but feel sad for him.

I don't want to talk much about Shuuji's family considering the very small info I have of them but it doesn't paint a pretty picture, there seems to be a chain of abuse going on here which is really depressing.

Also something I noticed while playing, Shuuji responds terribly if your concerned about him, it's most noticeable in Chapter 5 when he's at the start of his breakdown but even before that he didn't respond well to concern. I just find that a neat character detail.

I don't think he's my favorite, it's currently a three way tie between Minoru, Kaito and Miu, but he is incredibly interesting and really depressing. Excited to see more of him when I can save him, truly do wonder what happens when he digivolves properly and fixes his relationship with Lopmon.

[dats-hq]

I dont hate Lopmon at all, but I definitely find myself wishing that Shuuji had a different partner. Lopmon is fine, but I really do feel that Lopmon itself affects people's treatment of Shuuji :(

I find myself of two minds on this. On the one hand, I do think Lopmon being a cute little smoosh does contribute to the fandom's treatment of Shuuji.

On the other hand, Lopmon being this small, soft, physically weak Digimon is really good symbolism. Shuuji is a gentle soul who is made to feel who he is simply isn't good enough. If he lets his father shape him into a crueller person, his authentic self will be consumed. So too with Lopmon. I don't think the story would hit as hard with a less cute Digimon.

And sure, you could swap Lopmon out for pretty much anyone and have a dark evolution available still, but there's specific symbolism with Wendimon and Turuiemon that I like a lot. Becoming a cannibal vs curing the world of a plague. Giving up your humanity vs saving everyone's humanity. It's good stuff that mirrors Shuuji's role in the group across the different routes, and I'd hate to give that up and make the story worse just to appease incurious people with worse media literacy.

[apiratefellinlovewithastar]

like, it’s literally so fucking perfect????

From the Ancient War, to the Holy Digimon lore, to everyone’s characterization, to giving the siblings’ bonds the importance they deserve (they always do but they went above and beyond this time), to delving into Hikari’s dissociation further and her still trusting Taichi will come for her, to the Takaishida bros awakening and giving Angemon strength, to the Digitama, to Pegasmon, to how they handled the Corruption and expanded on it, to the miyakari/tailkari parallels about feeling the darkness creeping in and being scared of it but how they needn’t be (anchors!!!), to the new evolutions, to the Calamaramon and Cherubimon and MarineAngemon shoutouts, to Lopmon being there in all her calm and collected glory (which is in itself a shoutout to Antylamon), and everything else!!!!!

It’s just so [chef’s kiss] 👌🤌

Rewatching Digimon 2020 and I gotta say, I love the lore they went with for this remake 🥺 and I love it especially because they finally put together all these little details they dropped over the seasons

[ask-digimon-hunters]

“Nick, I don’t say this a lot, but you look terrible.” Lizz says, watching Nick and Rose enter the house.

“What happened?” Sam asks frantically.

“We got into a fight with Knightmaremon, we won but Nick got seriously hurt and Lopmon dark evolved.” Rose explains.

“Oh my king,” Riley starts, “do you know the name of the dark evolution?”

“No.” Rose says.

Just as Rose sits down on one of the chairs, a woman walks in, takes a look at Nick and gets furious.

Nikki yells, “If another person I care about gets hurt, I think I’m ending it here and now!”