#Listening Church

[kn1fechurch]

[hinamie]

we may not get forever / but forever is far

[spidehpig]

larian kidnapped some poor former catholic bisexual, held them at gunpoint & told them to spill their secret little sinner fantasies, took notes & then cooked up theses two characters in a laboratory

[bionic-vapour-boy]

i realized how tumblr sheltered the Conclave fandom was when i went on youtube and every other video essay was saying that it was "an attack on christianity" and "woke". way to miss the point

the point of the movie is to criticize the church, and how so many people now prioritize the church (whether it is the positions those in power have, the image it has, the power one can have within it, etc. etc) over actually following the teachings of Jesus (of forgiveness, and love, and caring for others, etc.) . it criticizes the conservatives (tedesco), who would rather return to the values that they think are right than to accept an ever changing world, and to spread the love and forgiveness that Jesus asks them to. it criticizes those who have positions in power in the church and have used this power to hide the harm they have caused others (adeyemi). it criticizes those who use the power the church has to further their personal goals (tremblay). it criticizes the liberals who claim to want to include those excluded and oppressed by the church in the past but refuse to actually stand up and say/do something meaningful (bellini).

and then you have lawrence, a man who fears he is doubting god, while in reality he doubts the church, yet to him what is most important is the visuals of all of it. it has to look like he truly believes, that he truly is fit for the job, that he really is a part of this. he has to make sure that the right candidate gets chosen that makes the church look the best. and it all comes crashing down when Benitez arrives. he is the ideal. he has been there, in the most dangerous places he can be, helping those in extreme conditions, even risking his life to do so. in the book he explicitly says that some of the most important work he has done is directly helping thousands of women who have been victims of genocidal rape. and he does this as a geniune desire to help others. to act by the word of God. he is the one with the least aspirations to papacy, but with the truest connection to God, which is why he prevails at the end.

and it is what a lot of people miss about him being intersex. its not this crazy plot twist to shock the viewers, or this dei inclusion plot to own the catholics or something. benitez is, out of all the 118 cardinals in the conclave, the most fit for the job of pope. so why should it matter that he is intersex? he is what god made him after all. but lawrence is concerned. does this make him inelegible for the position? what if word gets out? how will the people react? the concern is ultimately, about the church, how it will look, how it will react. not God. and benitez does not care what people think. he is what god made him, he is happy with who he is, and he has come to terms with his intersex traits. so once again, why should it matter? and it is what the movie is trying to say. so many people focus too much on the church, on the rules that humans have made up about what is right and what is wrong, on who is allowed to be part of the curia, that they have forgotten that god truly stands for. that they care more about the genitals of the pope than what he stands for, than what he is capable of, than the good he has done. and as a catholic it has put into writing (and speech) so many thoughts and feelings that i have had for a while, especially benitez speech after the explosion.

this movie does not hate catholicism!! it loves catholicism!! its symbolism, its love and detail for the setting, the clothing, the nuns. its all so careful and loving. the people like those i mentioned at the beginning are exactly who Conclave criticizes.

[alena-draws]

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[genderlessghoul]

Sleep Token is Hozier for metalheads

[hrokkall]

for the wrapped art thing: 73 + p03 or v2 ^_^

[73] - THE SCENE IS DEAD /// DUBMOOD & MASTER BOOT RECORD

[cirr0stratus]

I don’t want to talk about it though, since I don’t get anything out of it and nothing in the world can console me.

[katieaki]

No Rainbows Without Rain 🌈🌦️💧

December 16th is the feast day of The Listening Lady— the biggest holiday for the little blue bitches of the Wasteland. Something weird about becoming a god is that people stop giving you things on your birthday and start giving things to one another?? Ok. (She doesn't mind. She's selfless like that.)

If you know me, you know I'm always squirreling away little evocative/beautiful/inspirational/weird phrases in my notes for use at a later date. The large quote in the green frame is one of them that I've been saving for years. I believe it was from a facebook post of some unknown mom-type, probably on a video of a stray dog. I'm very happy to finally have found its home.

[astrobei]

*hozier plays ominously in the background*

[birthclod]

angels of war

[potatosaresweet]

rip hua cheng you would've loved hozier

[potato-lord-but-not]

My personal headcanon is also that John is fascinated by human religions and theology, and sometimes will just sit and ask Oscar questions for hours on end. When he finds out that Noel has this whole *OTHER* religion that John knows nothing about he just goes heart eyes.

Noel, having a unique relationship with his own spirituality, is like "well, let's start with things like food" to try and start with something that is a little less raw and lets John start helping him in the kitchen AKA putting him to work with grating and squeezing (spoken from experience of walking into my friend's house and immediately getting press ganged into being an extra set of hands helping with latkes)

Also the idea of John being so proud to share what he's made with Arthur??? T-T fucking adorable

100% ALL OF THIS !!!!!! John loves learning about religion because he now has the ability to be an outside observer instead of the subject of worship. like yes he knows some basics about most religions but it’s the little added human aspects that intrigues him the most.

[annabelle--cane]

incredibly small turn out for a two hour queer karaoke event so in the name of entertaining the masses (<- four other people) I went. five times.

[fischiee]

forget sister being the co-parent to junior. tex does it for the simple reason of church hates it with a burning passion

[isuggestwishcraft]

so far this church had

(possibly gay) porn

bombs

and now alcohol making class?? apparently???

what IS this place....... and where can i register-