#Like as a dog therian i don’t identify in the same way that a lot of other dog therians identify
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OH MY GOD I FINALLY FOUND SOMEONE WITH THE SAME OPINION ABOUT ME ON THIS
The animal stereotypes and general animal misinformation in the therian community are SOOO present. I do see what you mean with the coyote thing in the tags but honestly the one I see most is with dog therians. I feel like a majority of the dog therians I see play into this idea of the reactive stray that’s been wronged by society over and over, that bites because they are, specifically, angry. And it’s not WRONG to identify with that, but so many therian’s interpretations of their theriotypes is quite anthropomorphic or viewed from a “human” social lens (note: im not saying all therians are humans but rather we are socialized as such), and I honestly think it’s important to recognize this to some extent. Especially because, for some animals like wolfdogs, this can very easily spread misinformation! I’ve seen quite a few wolfdog therians in particular who identify as such because they’re relating their experiences to wolfdog misinformation, like the notion that wolfdogs are guard dogs (something they are NOTORIOUSLY bad at, especially with more content) or this idea of the wild “coming out” or being separate, rather than integrated, or the idea that they are “unpredictable”.
I think this also kindof relates to how there seems to be subtle oversimplification of animals and their lives , and I think we as a community kind of forget just how complex and difficult the lives of animals can be because often times we are limiting them to these tropes..!
But again, I’m not saying it’s Wrong or Bad to identify as an animal in this way. You aren’t less of a therian or nonhuman for relating with these stereotypes and tropes. I just think it’s… interesting lol. Like it’s a fascinating subject within the community and I kinda wish there was more effort to understand it… like I genuinely wonder where this comes from. Imprinting from media??? Since animals are often in media to represent an idea or metaphor rather than be 100% accurate??? Maybe.
not take but I think nearly 90% of therian identities are at least somewhat subconsciously (or consciously) affected by emotional states and how the heart feels through the logical filter of the mind (like.. wanting unconditional love is clearly a canine thing, wanting respect and space is a feline thing, wanting to be feared and yet soft is like some big cat thing.. etc.. no? The stereotypes still are ever so present)
but idk man
#dog therian#fox therian#therian#therianthropy#blue arctic fox therian#scenthound dog therian#marimo yips#Like as a dog therian i don’t identify in the same way that a lot of other dog therians identify#and I think this contributes to my general feelings of disconnect from the community#because like im specifically a working dog that’s like what I identify with the most#im a hunting dog first and a regular dog second#i don’t have time to be traumatized /JOKE#anyways#sorry for rambling on your post op#therian community
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So How Do I Know if I’m Nonhuman?

Disclaimer: This post is largely targeted toward those who experience or are questioning nonhumanity in a non-physical way, such as therian, otherkin, and some nonhuman alter experiences, as that is the realm I have the most knowledge on. Please keep this in mind going forward.
I’ve been in the alterhuman/therian/nonhuman communities for *checks watch* eight years now, give or take. I’m very confident in my identity as a dog, and I live my life as a dog in a human body every day. I’m very open about it with people in my life. I’m just always like this.
I get asked a lot— in my DMs, in my asks, personally by people I know— how to know if you’re nonhuman.
Unfortunately I do not have an easy answer for that. Finding out you’re nonhuman, and being comfortable with that identity, is a long, confusing process for most. There are so many ways to experience nonhumanity, and a lot of people will tell you narrow definitions based on what their experience looks like.
My experience with finding out I was nonhuman is messy and long, and it took me several years to get as comfortable and as confident in my identity as I am. I know that’s not an answer people like to hear. I know how hard it is to just think “This will take time” and be cool with that.
So I think my biggest piece of advice would be: Don’t be afraid to experiment. Don’t be afraid to get it wrong.
There have been times where I’ve thought I was a wolf, a rabbit, a fox, a dragon, a husky, a bear, all kinds of things, before I finally figured out the right answer for me. I only have one theriotype. My theriotype is psychological and trauma-induced in nature. Yours might not be. You will very likely not experience nonhumanity in the exact same way as anyone else. That’s why it’s so confusing. That’s why it takes so long to understand your own journey.
Look dude. Get the gear you like. Do what makes you feel species euphoric. If you’re so worried about “faking” your nonhuman identity, chances are you’re not. Also? I personally wouldn’t care if someone who identified as nonhuman later retracted that identity, and I don’t know anyone who would care either.
If labeling yourself as some kind of nonhuman feels right to you right now, that’s okay. Your ‘types may change and grow overtime, you may feel more or less connected with them, that is all okay. Experience nonhumanity in a way that works for you right now. There’s not one way to know if you’re nonhuman. But I’d say if the community and the label is right for you, you’ll stay with it, and you’ll be more confident in it over time. And if it isn’t, that’s okay too.
#therian#otherkin#dog therian#alterhuman#therianthropy#dogkin#canine therian#nonhuman#nonhumanity#alterhumanity#otherkin community#therian community#alterbeing#nonhuman alter#nonhuman community
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Sorry if this is a stupid question- what exactly is the misceverse? (Am I spelling that right?) is it like- a lifestyle? An identity? Is it a chosen thing? Or is it just like an aesthetic? I know nothing lol- any information would be greatly appreciated
not a stupid question!!! i wanna start of by saying to please take everything i say with a grain of salt for 2 main reasons:
1. i didn’t know until a few months ago that other people felt the same as me or that there was a whole misce community! so there are things that i probably haven’t seen/heard of in specific terms :)
2. the misce verse is all very personal to who you are, your identity, and what it means to you!! so what is true for me may not be true for you or anyone else :)
moving on, im not sure how familiar you are with the concept of the omegaverse, so i’ll very briefly explain in case you haven’t heard of it! the omegaverse is a fictional setting/universe based on (since debunked) hypotheses about dynamics among wolves. so in the omegaverse, each person has a secondary gender that is either alpha, beta, or omega, each with specific characteristics that people explore in fictional writing ! i’m sure there are much more detailed explanations of omegaverse out there if you want more in depth info :)
the misceverse is a community of people who take concepts/practices from the omegaverse fictional world and apply it to their own real lives - whether that’s in gender identify, lifestyle, etc. “misceverse” is kind of an umbrella term, there are more specific terms that align with certain animal groups that people use if they feel more connected to those, like miscecanis for more dog/wolf centered feelings, experiences, identities, miscefelis for felines, and many others for different animal groups! one important thing to note is that this isn’t pretend or role play for the people in the misce community, it’s our real identities, feelings, and experiences.
because it’s so intwined with each person’s identity, there are so many different ways it shows up in people’s lives - whether they have a designated scent for themselves, identify with specific characteristics of the label they identify with (like whether or not someone experiences “typical” omega things if they identify as an omega), how they feel about packs/finding a pack for themselves, heat/rut cycles, etc.
at its core, it’s about adopting parts of the omegaverse that align and resonate with YOU and making it a part of your day to day life and incorporating it into your identity :)
a common misconception is that the misceverse is inherently sexual, which is not necessarily true. for some people it is and for some people it isn’t, and that’s for them to decide! at the end of the day it’s about your gender and your lifestyle!
there’s a lot of overlap with the alterhuman, therian, and kin communities too :) this is sooooo much info so i’m sorry if it’s overwhelming/confusing, but i hope it helps!
if you have any more/follow up questions, i’ll do my best to answer :)
i also want to say there’s sometimes some confusion because of tagging !!! a lot of people (like myself) also tag with some omegaverse tags in order to find and connect with people who may feel the same way and don’t know about the community or haven’t been able to find it :)
(this post is also me expanding and adding onto a base explanation from @tommyssupercoolblog , so credit where credit is due!)
#honey answers#honey’s thoughts#misceverse#misceanimalis#miscecanis#miscefelis#misce#misceblr#omega#alpha beta omega#alpha/beta/omega dynamics#omegaverse#omegaverse lifestyle#alterhuman#therianthropy#therian#otherkin
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I don’t rlly know how I fit into the wider otherkin/therian/alterhuman community and tbh my first thought is that mayb I don’t fit in? (Help??)
I remember when I first started hearing abt otherkin on tumblr wayyyy back in like 2015 or so, and I was one of the people who thought it was like.. offensive to the trans community?? Which is obviously bs! I’ve grown to be very pro do whatever you want as long as you’re not hurting anyone, and after reading a lot of therian posts I’m starting to get a better understanding of how and why someone would identify as an animal or other nonhuman entity.
But I don’t think I do. I very very very strongly identify with puppies, but I wouldn’t say I am one, I’d say I like pretending to be one! And I always have! For over 20 years now actually! But there’s a distinction between that and what a lot of other people describe.
In my mind I can still be part of the broader alterhuman community. I relate to the ways alterhumans act n feel even tho I am not exactly the same, and I like being in this space because of that!! It’s like, getting on all fours and playing with a bunch of bio dogs!!
I think people like me should have a place in this community, but idk how actual alterhumans would feel about that, especially in an online space where people tend to become more polarized n strict about what they believe is the objective true correct thing rather than allowing for variation in the human (and nonhuman :3) experience.
But also maybe this is invalidating for true alterhumans! Maybe they do want a space for just beings who are explicitly other than human, and as a queer person and someone who identified as a woman for most of my life, I get that.
If I were to fit myself into the community, I think I would use the label otherkin? Correct me if I’m wrong, but the word kin means related, so in this context I think it does work for me. Dog-kin = dog-related.
Oh also!! To me this is all inherently related to autism (assessment results pending but after the THREE HOUR INTERVIEW that was the assessment and finally getting to read Unmasking Autism by Devon Price I am feeling pretty confident) in a way that I could speak on but I won’t in this post because it’s too long already!!
Anyways… I guess I want to hear from other folks in the community. Does what I’m saying make any sense?
#edit: questions answered!! thank you!! keeping the post up in cas anyone else would like to weigh in or has any recommended reading!!#sorry for multitagging I just really do want to understand where/if I can fit into all this#puppykin#dogkin#alterhuman#therian#dog therian#dog theriotype#puppy therian#otherkin#nonhuman#therian questions#questioning therian#otherkin community
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Hi, a bit of a weird question, but I noticed that a lot of people I follow, who have aspd have a strong connection (not really sure how to explain it) to wolfs/dogs and canines in general, and I just wanted to ask whether this is a general thing or is it just my circle lol
Yeah I mean that tracks. My abuser was super into wolves, so I don’t relate to those *anymore*, but I previously identified as a wolf and therian and still follow dog therian tags as a shape-shifting alter including dogs.
I think it’s sort of like how autistic people sometimes like cats: cats behave in a way that makes a lot of sense to autistic people and they can relate to.
The same kinda goes with dogs/wolves and pwASPD. Some breeds of dogs and all wolves are seen as aggressive, dangerous, uncontrollable, and are avoided and some people even think should not be bred or be put down - all for things that have nothing to do with the animal themselves and in fact are about how they were treated. If you mistreat a dog through its formative years, you’ll get a very *defensive* (not aggressive idc what people say) dog. They’ll be quick to attack and maybe not warn first the way other dogs will because they learned that’s what keeps them safe - me fuckin too dude - and they risk getting literally put down in a legal and community supported way for that behavior they never asked to be taught.
And this is just a personal thing, but I kind of romanticize the idea of being a dog - because there’s a large community of people who understand that it’s not the dog’s fault and will fight for them to be accepted and understood; who’ll meet that dog where they’re at and work with them with complete understanding and forgiveness for anything the dog does wrong. People who will *get bitten* and apologize for scaring the dog. And what really makes me envy dogs is that dogs are able to turn it around no matter how old they are - even senior dogs who were extremely reactive can usually be turned around and act like a normal dog or even be particularly caring and docile because dogs can be taught at any age that they are safe now and they don’t need to behave that way anymore. I wish my brain was capable of learning that and undoing all the neurological damage people did to me, and I wish people would look at me and see and understand the stress and anxiety in my eyes when I act out because I felt unsafe.
So uh yeah, anyways, I’d say it’s not uncommon.
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Yeah I mean that tracks. My abuser was super into wolves, so I don’t relate to those *anymore*, but I previously identified as a wolf and therian and still follow dog therian tags as a shape-shifting alter including dogs.
I think it’s sort of like how autistic people sometimes like cats: cats behave in a way that makes a lot of sense to autistic people and they can relate to.
The same kinda goes with dogs/wolves and pwASPD. Some breeds of dogs and all wolves are seen as aggressive, dangerous, uncontrollable, and are avoided and some people even think should not be bred or be put down - all for things that have nothing to do with the animal themselves and in fact are about how they were treated. If you mistreat a dog through its formative years, you’ll get a very *defensive* (not aggressive idc what people say) dog. They’ll be quick to attack and maybe not warn first the way other dogs will because they learned that’s what keeps them safe - me fuckin too dude - and they risk getting literally put down in a legal and community supported way for that behavior they never asked to be taught.
And this is just a personal thing, but I kind of romanticize the idea of being a dog - because there’s a large community of people who understand that it’s not the dog’s fault and will fight for them to be accepted and understood; who’ll meet that dog where they’re at and work with them with complete understanding and forgiveness for anything the dog does wrong. People who will *get bitten* and apologize for scaring the dog. And what really makes me envy dogs is that dogs are able to turn it around no matter how old they are - even senior dogs who were extremely reactive can usually be turned around and act like a normal dog or even be particularly caring and docile because dogs can be taught at any age that they are safe now and they don’t need to behave that way anymore. I wish my brain was capable of learning that and undoing all the neurological damage people did to me, and I wish people would look at me and see and understand the stress and anxiety in my eyes when I act out because I felt unsafe.
So uh yeah, anyways, I’d say it’s not uncommon.
#a rare unmasked aspd culture#aspd-culture-is#aspd culture is#aspd culture#actually aspd#aspd#aspd awareness#actually antisocial#antisocial personality disorder#aspd traits#anons welcome
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We want to talk about our nonhuman experience a little bit. Our experiences with therianthropy are a bit different from anything we’ve seen from other alterhumans, and it can feel a bit isolating at times.
Many of us headmates do identify as therian or nonhuman, but most of us do not identify as a specific species. It’s more like we are kin with a certain scientific family or order (for example, canidae or columbidae or testudines rather than a specific species of canine, dove, or turtle). We still experience what I’d describe as kin shifts, we deal with species dysphoria, visualize ourselves as those species who exist in the classifications we identify as, but it’s a lot more vague than kinning a specific species of animal.
It sometimes makes us feel like our experiences aren’t as real as other nonhumans, like somehow our therian identities are watered down because of this vagueness. We don’t see anyone else ever talking about this kind of experience. Even those out there who are polykin tend to know the specific species they belong to. And we just… don’t. We often feel like multiple species within the same family, sometimes shifting between them, sometimes feeling like multiple at once.
We still absolutely identify as nonhuman and also therians. And we are the species we identify as. I am a canine! I’m just sometimes a red wolf and sometimes a coyote and sometimes a mixed breed dog and sometimes multiple of these at once. And maybe it’s a polykin thing? But it feels more like my kintype or theriotype is canidae rather than, say, Canis lupus.
Has anyone else ever felt this way before?
#sys.txt#nonhuman shenanigans#nonhuman#alterhuman#therian#therianthropy#otherkin#alterhuman community#therian community#nonhuman community#polykin
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honestly, as someone who is a wolf therian, and also interested in human and animal psychology, I must add that most people can be recognised for reverting to a more simple mental state when sick, I’m unsure if any study has been done on it but through my own experiences and of those I knew I can find that the mind just goes into a survival mode and turns off the more complicated functions to be able to focus on those which are needed for fighting whatever infection or harm the body is baring currently and to be able to sustain yourself enough to continue towards life, and it can be simple to paint it as your identity because when you’re so aware that you’re an animal (or any term or belief, at that) then you tend to subconsciously seek out proof of that, even if that would’ve otherwise gone unnoticed. Not denying you of yourself but just pointing out that it’s a phenomenon many experience, albeit usually seen as reverting to the state of a ‘child’ than animal- given that most of the more mature logic is shunned in favour of simple and coherent conclusions, it could be through behaviour that immediately work as this snappy “I don’t feel okay and so I must be in danger and so I must fight” when usually it comes through as “I feel a bit under the weather, I wonder what I had done to invoke this, perhaps my head hurts because I’ve spent a bit too long on this activity, then to rest up I’ll stop doing it and allow my body to recover, maybe even drink some water because I haven’t done so in a while”.. keep in mind that this often happens without even consideration! It’s these neural impulses within our mind that can snap around at something close to light speed and not always is worded out (hell, I don’t even have an internal monologue!) yet the understanding is still there. Okay but what I also wanted to say is that if bedridden, our silly instincts also come to play more loudly than when healthy, because there’s less of that conscious self that tries to stop us (we always tend to think of how we look and act, as it so happens, and hide or fake behaviour to come across as what we think others want of us), so even those who don’t identify as animals may find themselves speaking through noises, acting in ways they usually wouldn’t (staring, tilting head, etc), and presenting with things we usually associate with animals. If you look for it, there’s so much more we have in common with other species! Humans and creatures do have a lot of similarities after all! We also sometimes tend to seek our touch, like cats, or on the contrary change our minds and want our space and boundaries, also like cats. Or want to run around and spend time with a person we adore, like a dog.. we wish to fly - like the birds, and comfort in repetition is nearly a universal pattern. Basically I’m just sharing my little say on this, without any harm intended.
ah, sorry for the ramble.. I like writing and this just prompted me to share what I’ve learnt on this topic so far. Thanks for the opportunity but sorry for the response if you didn’t want it haha..
I’ve had a few of such encounters myself! Some times where I feel like an animal, usually a hound, and other times just like a weakened person. It can just come as a sharp realisation but usually for me came across just with ‘if you pay attention to it, you’ll find stuff that meet your beliefs’. Similar to how optimists often spot the good stuff and that proves their point and makes them like life more, while those with critical worldviews tend to ignore the good in favour of the negative and say ‘hey! See!? There is bad!! So I was right in thinking the world is awful!’ When in fact it can just be the same exact balance of situations to one another, but then again, each individual is made different and goes through life differently. Still! There are always occasional similarities that tie us closer and create bonds!!
I got really sick recently, to the point where I was bed ridden in so so much pain and something I found is that I revert to some of animal instincts a lot more then when I’m healthy.
For example I got so extremely productive of my den and pack member. To the point where I was basically growling at people who were being too friendly. My teeth where nearly always beared when in others presence and I was so worried that my home (friend included) was in danger.
I could also not stomach anything that wasn’t in a foxes diet (bread, certain meets) I was only eating fruit and chicken at one point.
Overall it was a very weird experience 😁
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A few thoughts on being a hydra:
20. Tell us a few thoughts about what it’s like being your species
For those who don’t know, three of the members in our system identify collectively as a hydra. Each of us have individual forms outside of the hydra one (all dragons in some fashion). Also, our hydra form is not permanent and does flux between separated and not depending on our emotions. We label it a linktype because we want to emphasize the "we choose to be this together." aspect. It is a representation of how we feel about one another + how we want to present in the headspace.
On how it feels: The closest comparison we can think of is of a bunch of dogs all curled up in a dog bed together. It might look squished, but it’s comfortable. It’s hard to tell where one dragon ends, and another begins. But none of us really care as long as we’re collectively enjoying ourselves which isn’t hard since we all tend to be easygoing.
There’s a lot of thoughtleak (the sharing of thoughts/emotions, whether intentional or not) and we’ll hear each other much easier than other headmates. It's near impossible to hide anything from one another. Communication tends to be: rush of associated emotion and then the actual words. The words from the others will be as clear and crisp as our own thoughts, but with different vibes/energy signatures to them.
Some individual thoughts on the question:
(Following from Larka was re-purposed from a journal entry)
"My plural 'awakening' happened parallel to picking up the hydra linktype. We don't spend any time in the plural communities nor want to so we don't know all the terms. Not sure if awakening is the word to use, but it gets the point across. We all collectively choose to identity as a hydra despite having individual forms because we feel drawn to one another and don't want to be separated. Presenting this way in the headspace lets our speech and thoughts flow more easily and just feels good to be honest.
It was easier initially to see the hydra (I was really into Godzilla at the time and watching the new king of monsters dvd) and realize there was something there I wanted even if I couldn't articulate it at the time. So I started with the linktype. I can be kind of...bossy? for lack of a better word, so before this I was trying to control the others instead of listening at all. The turning point to even considering attempting to talk to the others was when I played the "I am (Dog)s" visual story online (if you want to see it, here's the link) that follows a therian finding out they're plural." – Larka
"We have a strong bond that has grown stronger over time. There's a quote saved on our phone that I want to paraphrase: 'Right now, they feel like they're in a box--like the menial distance between them is some forced, unnatural barrier that shouldn't be there. Right now, they want to tear that barrier down.' Being a dragon inherently comes with a feeling of power and pride, but being a hydra is about love and connection. We often joke that the only thing we love more than ourselves is each other. We're close with our other headmates, but there's something about becoming the same being as one another. A unique level of synchronicity and trust is needed for it. I love them." – Thorn
“We’re like brothers, only closer.” – Stryker
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Another Perspective on Daemonism and Alterhumanity
So there’s been some discussion recently on daemonism and alterhumanity, most of it dealing with daemonism’s relation to plurality. For me, I’ve found there’s another way daemonism can be alterhuman, and I wonder if anyone else feels the same. I’m thinking of daemon form as a type of animal identity.
When I first discovered TDF and got into form-finding (gosh, in 2007 I think) I remember one’s form having an incredible prominence, not only to oneself, but also to the community. I remember the discussions on form possessiveness, of wanting to be the only panda/buffalo/iguana/etc on the forum, because anything else felt like an infringement on one’s identity and place in the community. Similarly, I remember the concept of form pride, in which people took particular pride in having say, a parrot daemon and being a parrot person. Indeed, the language around identifying one’s form was different then too: if your form was a parrot, it was common to call yourself a “parrot-soul” (and of course, the same applies to lions, dogs, and any other animal).
What I’m trying to get at here is that there was a strong culture of daemon-form-as-identity. And this was the culture that I came into when I started form-finding. When I finally did settle on a fitting form (smooth coated otter), I adopted otter into my self-concept. I felt I was an otter, in a symbolic and metaphorical sense. Otter was more than just symbol in a personality typing system, otter was an identity in itself. And based off what I read from so many other daemians back in the day, I don’t think that experience was uncommon.
Nowadays I can’t fully vouch for what daemon-form-as-identity is like in the community. I don’t keep up with TDF nearly as much as I used to. But from what I have seen, it seems like things have changed some? It seems like a lot of the passions towards the phenomenon have cooled.
Anyway, I’d love to see more discussion on daemon-form-as-identity because I find it’s a really interesting example of animal identity. Both a daemian and a therian can identify as a fox and have it be central to their identity, but it means something completely different. I’m not sure how many daemians still identify strongly with/as their form/s. But do I think that kind of identification can be an alterhuman experience.
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30DayTheri 12: Humans
“Wait, seriously?” You might be thinking. “You’re doing a whole 30-day blog challenge about being nonhuman, and you’re going to talk about humanity?” Yes. Absolutely. Because how can I conceptualize my nonhumanity without talking about humanity?
I, for one, am very much in the “both other-and-human” camp. I still identify as a human, and calling myself a dog-person with both halves is important to me. There are a few reasons for this: 1.I’m a psychological therian, and for me part of that means knowing that everything I think and feel and know about dogs is filtered through a human brain. Ironic as it sounds, I think identifying as nonhuman is an incredibly human thing to do.
2. I don’t know how much domesticity plays into my still feeling connected to humanity, but it’s worth considering. I know there are non-domestic kin folk that still identify as human; I suspect I’d be the same if i was a wolf instead of a dog, but I can’t be 100% sure. I don’t have the alienation some other therians and otherkin do, and maybe that makes it easier to still feel human and feel ok with that.
Frankly it was a common motif that I just didn’t vibe with on therian/otherkin forums: the “uuuugh humans” mentality, whether as a complaint for struggling to understand them or the vagaries of external society or species dysphoria, or what. And to be clear I don’t begrudge anyone having that attitude! People have vastly different experiences and it’s valid for someone to feel more disconnected or frustrated or 100% nonhuman. It’s just not me.
Because I love humanity. Not just in my own identification as still-human, but observing the human species from a quasi-external perspective. Humanity is great! It gets into politics and philosophy a little, but I genuinely have a lot of faith and celebration in humanity. Some people (especially the grr arg apocalupse prep types) seem to think civilization is a thin veneer over humanity’s feral nature. But the fact is human societies have been through a few cataclysms, and we keep rebuilding. Over and over and over again. Society isn’t keeping humans from what they “really” want, society is what humans do. The mutual aid communities that popped up after hurricane Katrina are a good example, but there are more. I won’t get into it but see The Good Place as a good shorthand for my moral perspective. Humans are social beings, and, given the space and opportunity, try to connect. It’s one of the things I love about the domestication of dogs- two pack-bonding top-level predators encountered one another and went Friend?!?
I have a whole humans tag to capture the sort of things that make me love humanity. The big things like philosophy, sure, but also the little things. The way people will spontaneously sing. The way Ancient Rome had tacky souvenir pencils and there is viking graffiti saying stuff like “X was here”. It delights me every time I see something like that- this fundamental continuity that, across vast differences in culture and circumstance, people have always been...people.
I also like learning physical stuff about humans as a species. The way humans are especially enduring as pursuit predators, or how we can throw better than any other species, or those video montages of people doing neat athletic stunts. I can’t mimic the vast majority of it, but it’s fascinating to see what’s possible. Honestly it always makes me think of some distant or alternate-universe alien that is the equivalent of humankin. That poor individual might be accused of only going for a cool, romanticized species. Or a mary sue, if they’re the roleplaying type. (OMG humans totally can have green and purple hair, and live to be a hundred, and do backflips!!!) Something about that mental image is fun and endearing to me. Humans are treated as “default” and “boring” so much I think people forget to consider how fascinating the species would be from an external, sentient perspective.
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Welcome!!!
It’s a lot to process, yeah, but honestly I don’t think the right question is “am I right”. It’s not like you can take a DNA test and come out as a dog, you know? What you’re looking for is a net positive. Are you more comfortable identifying as a werewolf? Can you see it hurting you in some way? Is it a feeling that comes back even when you ignore it?
You’ll tend to find us more on older style forum pages (I like Nonhuman National Park), and there’s definitely a lot of people talking about species dysphoria. Alterhumans is the big umbrella term, otherkin is both singular and plural for people identifying as non-terrestrial creatures like dragons, and therians are your wolves and dinosaurs and such.
There are different kinds of shifts, more than I really want to list in a short post, but I need to include the obligatory warning that p-shifting, physical shifting, does not exist. Nobody’s actually turning into dragons or wolves or even making their eyes change color. People will try to sell you that as a grifter line, though. For the same reason, nobody’s being hunted by anyone. Unless you count weird transphobic politicians I guess.
I get phantom shifts and mental shifts. So with phantom shifts for example, I can feel my fangs extending or retracting despite the fact that humans don’t have fangs. Sometimes I feel too big for my body, over correcting for door sizes and such that I can definitely fit through, but my brain says I have Massive Dragon Shoulders. Sometimes it’s hard to walk because my body structure feels all wrong. With mental shifts, it’s an attitude/instinct change. The way I approach situations, whether I’m nonverbal or not. I tend to make more purring and growling noises, get more territorial of my space. It varies depending on the person and the kintype.
I’m not sure what a usual experience is, I think that’s like asking what a normal human experience is, but hey. That’s why we write essays on it!
An awakening is pretty much what it says on the tin. The prelude to it could be dreams, more obvious shifts (though not everyone does that!), etc. You realize there’s something nonhuman about you. Mine was kind of dramatic, I had dreams about hunting people in the woods.
I hope this was helpful!!!
I'm rather new to the whole "recognizing I'm not human" thing (let alone the community terms), so I'm curious what's everyone's experiences of being generally non-human is?
To me it feels a bit overwhelming having to process a lot of years and coming to terms with being non-human, especially when my inner critic always asks - am I right, or am I delusional? I am sure I am not human (be it by nature or nurture), and I always felt innate connection to werewolves so I'm rolling with it, but there are still many questions.
Is "species dysphoria" common among different kinds of otherkin... folk? I don't know the communal term. What is a "shift" and how could you identify it? What is a usual were- experience? What's an "awakening", or what could be characterized as one? I bet there are even more questions I'm not aware of. If you could answer some of the questions, I'd be grateful forever :)
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WORDS!!! LOTS OF WORDS!!!! Idk if any of it makes sense. This post isn’t specifically about otherkin/therian stuff, it’s just about me. Like a little vent post ig. Since this isnt my main blog. I think I have like 3 followers? So sorry to yall, u dont have to read this, u guys are probably nice ppl, But i don’t actually know any of u (except one) so I’m honestly not concerned with how yall see me (if u do read this u will most likely think im a bad person, and thats okay, thats why i say that)Tw: verbal abuse, s/h
I’ve been dissociating a ton lately. Most of the time it isn’t harmful, it will just be me walking around my kitchen for a bit in my socks and then feeling cold on the soles of my feet bc i walked so much that my socks wore out/thinned out/got holes, and realizing that it’s been over 3 hours and ive been walking in circles the entire time. In those kinds of dissociation I’m like stuck in my head, in a different world (I say that quite literally). It’s unnerving when I do snap out of it, but it doesn’t really hurt anyone (except my beautiful socks that I keep tearing from walking on them too much, ive gone through 3 pairs in the past 2 days and im sad bc they had really cool designs and were kinda expensive, for socks that is). I’m used to that kind of dissociation, I’ve been doing that since I was around 9 (that’s my earliest memory of it anyway).
But then there’s this new(?)/ uncommon-for-me kind of dissociation where I’m doing something I wouldn’t do and I don’t feel in control. It’s different from being so angry that I lose control, I’ve dealt with that before. It’s like I get triggered and then somebody’s just going off and saying all these messed up things and I’m just watching it all happen in horror and I keep telling myself(?) to stop but they don’t. Today my brother triggered me and suddenly it’s like I was watching a movie of myself yelling at him, saying exact same abusive stuff my parents would yell/scream at me. As soon as I could take control again I started stomping on my foot bc I can’t have anyone hurting my brother like that. It’s very confusing and scary and I don’t know what’s going on. Maybe subconsciously I don’t want to admit to myself that I can be abusive. Maybe it’s like my brain’s way of separating me from abusive me. I’ve gone to therapy for several years and I’ve learned how to deal with anger and recently I’ve definitely had to use those skills bc my mental health has been dipping a bit. But this feels totally different. I kind of just shut down and its like someone goes “dont worry ill handle this *proceeds to handle it very badly while im banging on the glass telling them to stop*”. Idk what’s going on but I do know that I am very disappointed in myself and feel very bad about it (I apologized to my brother and explained that I never want to hurt him like our parents do and that i am going to try very hard to not let it happen again. But I don’t really know what happened. I don’t really know how to stop it. So I’m just isolating.
I am notoriously bad at identifying what/who I am. My brain doesn’t use words most of the time. There’s a lot going on in there but I don’t communicate with myself using words. Usually when I dissociate I’m different people in different worlds but my body is just on stand-by/stuck doing the same action over and over again. Only recently have I felt that someone else has taken over my body. A similar thing happened last year where I thought my dogs and I were possessed but I don’t remember much of that. So idk if it really is someone else doing this against my will, like I think there is, or if I’m just too ashamed to face my toxic behaviors and accept them as my own.
End of rant!
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Therian Q’s ... 2!!!
I did this questionnaire several years ago, and thought it might be fun to do again! I know some of my answers are gonna be different, and it’s a neat way for any new followers to learn a bit about me. Let’s go!
What animal do you identify as?
Orcinus orca, the "killer whale".
Where does it live?
Orcas live all over the world! There are several types, but the most well known are probably the Southern Resident Killer Whales of the Puget Sound area. I think that I was a Northern Resident Killer Whale, but I’m not entirely sure. The icy stark landscape of the Antarctic still feels really familiar too.
Are you social or more of a lone wolf?
Orcas live in pods, and are social. I am so social. Please talk to me. Aaaa.
Are you in a pack,herd,pride,clan,etc? If not, did you consider joining one?
I’ve wanted this for awhile, but getting out is hard for me. I’m in a couple Discord servers for kin stuff, but nothing specifically orca related.
Is your kintype also your favourite animal?
One of them, yes!
Is your kintype being hunted? If yes, how does it affect you emotionally?
Currently, no. They have been in the past, and there are still orcas in captivity, which I hate. Cetaceans are extremely intelligent and keeping them in captivity is torture. Literally.
Do you have anything from your kintype? Like, fur, teeth, etc?
That’s SUPER ILLEGAL, so no. I do have a Free Willy pendant, though.
Do you have astral limbs?
Sometimes! They’re not as strong as with some other kintypes, and I suspect that it’s because the astral limbs don’t translate very well to a human body plan. A whale’s tail is not from the legs, it’s an extension of the spine. So instead of tacking that feeling onto the human shape, my brain sort of shuffles the feeling off to the side.
Do you experience shifts?
Not as much for this kintype. I think the strongest “shifty” feelings I get are actually emotional - relating to love of places, my pod, the water, the feeling of being “me” in that form.
What triggers your ‘wild side’ the most?
Being in water. Water and whale sounds. The feel of cold air on my skin. The smell of salty ocean air.
What is your opinion on the buttloads of wolves and big cats out here?
They’re easy and accessible. Most of us know what a wolf and a cat are. We can imagine what they look like, and feel like, and what their life is like. There’s tons of media out there of both, they’re popular in spiritual work, people can identify common archetypal traits with them that they have themselves. I think it’s silly to look down on someone for having a “common” kintype like wolf or lynx or whatever. Even if they find out later that they’re not that kintype, it gave them a jumping off point to explore themselves and dig deeper into what otherkinity means for them. tldr; it’s none of my beeswax and y’all should chill about this.
How does your kintype affect your day-to-day-life?
I’m staunchly anti-cetacean-captivity. I would love to get more involved in local action to protect the ocean, I try to be environmentally conscious. I care deeply about my chosen people.
Do you share any traits generally associated with your theriotype?
I adore swimming and being in the water. I’m very sensitive to sounds. I have sort of a restrictive diet for health reasons. I’m very social.
Worst example of fluff you ever encountered, either in IRL or Online?
Sttoooopp asking this quesstiiiooonnnnnn seriously, seriously, get over yourselves if “fluff” bothers you I promise you will be a happier person if you just let other people lives their own lives when it doesn’t affect you at ALL.
Is therianthropy important in your life?
Yes and no. Is it important enough to affect (some) of my life goals and dreams? Yes. Is it important enough that I have to tell absolutely everyone I meet? No.
Imagine you could shift into your theriotype. There’s just one downside; the shift is forever. Would you still do it and abandon your human life?
I would need some time to think about it, but it sure is tempting.
Is there anything you consider a treat? Like, fruits, dog treats, etc.
For the whale? S a l m o n.
Do you have contacts with therians IRL?
Y...es? I think so. But the line between IRL and Online friends is a lot more blurry than it used to be, I think.
Do you think someone of your family is a therian?
Probably Not.
What is your opinion on those otherkin documentaries? Do you think they’re accurate?
I think that even if they are accurate to the people that are in the show, you’re never going to get the whole picture of what being otherkin is like. I’ve always heard, and said myself, that if you ask 10 people what otherkin is you’re going to get 15 answers because everyone’s internal concept of the phenomenon is different. Plus, positivity and joy doesn’t sell the same way cringe and angst does. [shrug emoji]
Do you actively work to preserve or otherwise care for your species?
Hard to do, living in a really landlocked area and being poor - but I would love to be more active this way.
What do you think your purpose is here? Do you think you have one?
I hate this question. Is it not enough to just Be?
Do you think having an animal soul is an advantage or a disadvantage?
Neither. I think it’s just an interesting experience on the enormously varied spectrum of being an incarnated being.
Any physical activity that reminds you of your theriotype?
Being in the water and swimming. But this can be frustrating more than a fun and joyful experience. As I mentioned earlier, a whales tail is not formed from legs - it’s the spine. So trying to swim “mermaid style” is NOT the same motion as a whale swimming, and it’s a really awkward and uncomfortable movement when my body feels like it should be a smooth and graceful one.
Does weather influence you in your non-human perception?
Cold feels very familiar. Cold and dark, driving rain.
Day or Night?
Still night.
Summer or Winter?
Winter.
If you had kids, would you tell them you’re a therian or would you keep it a secret?
I don’t think I’d keep it a secret, but I don’t know if I’d approach it as “moddy is a therian.” I struggled for a good couple minutes searching to come up with a gender neutral parent term and I still don’t know if I like that one, sheesh.
Would you make a presentation in your school/work/office about therianthropy?
Sure! I think it’s a lot less “taboo” now than it used to be, and there’s likely more kin out there than you’re aware of.
If you have any questions about my answers here or just questions in general about me, therianthropy, orcas, etc...send me an ask! <3
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Rai tries to explain the furry fandom for non-furries for the 24963569356586th time because I have no life~
I’m sure I’m preaching to the choir posting this here, I just still often see people in the general internet being confused about or flat out wrong about what furries are and why we like the things we like. So here I go again, taking my frustrations out by making a long-winded tumblr post about it. But hey, if you’re confused by furries or know someone who is, maybe this will help idfk
Just be warned I am an ADHD motherfucker and there will be about 10x more words than necessary.
To start, What Are Furries?
Furries are simply self-identified fans of anthropomorphic animal characters.That is, a character that is an animal, but with many human characteristics. This can include speaking human language, human-like facial expressions, walking upright in a human-like way, wearing clothes, etc. Examples of anthropomorphic (or anthro for short) characters include Bugs Bunny, Mickey Mouse, Sonic the Hedgehog, Disney’s animated Robin Hood, Zootopia, and Beastars. All things in which the “animal” characters behave and express themselves like humans. Even movies like The Lion King and Balto have what would be considered “antho” characters, due to their capacity for human thought, speech, and facial expressions, though they would be in a subcategory often referred to as “feral” or sometimes “non-morphic” in which the character still moves and behaves largely like an animal.
So to reiterate, a furry is simply a self-proclaimed fan of anthro animal characters.
Why Anthro Animals?
I mean the obvious answer is, because it’s fun. It can be really fun and get one’s creative juices flowing trying to figure out how to blend human and animal characteristics. It’s an animal that moves and acts like a human. In what ways is it like a person, and what ways is it still an animal? Popular media like Zootopia and Beastars address that question as major plot points and worldbuilding elements. But it can also be fun to think about just when creating your own characters. And aside from just figuring out how to blend characteristics, the animal aspects of a character can offer more options of expression. Ears can perk up, droop, or fold back, tails can wag, lash, or tuck between legs, growling, hissing, etc. People often use expressions comparing human behavior and emotions to animals. You ever find yourself so happy or exited you think “If I was a dog my tail would be wagging!”
And aside from being an interesting concept to think about, sometimes it’s just aesthetically pleasing.
What is a “fursona”?
Fursona is short for “furry persona”. A BIG BIG part of the fandom is original characters. If you look at a furry art website you might see some art of Judy Hops, Legoshi, Sonic, etc. But mostly you’ll see original characters. They tend to be the main focus of the fandom. Because all the things mentioned above are fun to play with, and the fandom is big on creativity and self-expression. And what good is self-expression if you don’t use it to express... yourself? A fursona is an anthro animal representation of oneself. Basically “Me, but an [animal].” These can be an accurate representation of oneself (example: someone who is short and meek and skittish might make a mouse fursona) or a more idealized version of who you want to be (example: same short meek skittish person might instead make a lion fursona because they wish they could be more confident, strong, and outgoing). Some people even make multiple fursonas to represent different aspects of themselves (Think Thomas Sanders’ “Sanders Sides” but with fur). In the fandom, your fursona is also often how you represent yourself to others. In real life there are aspects of your appearance you can’t control, or that can be very hard to control. Your height, weight, bone structure, etc. But online as a furry, you can look like anything you want. This is also a very attractive concept to trans folk and queer people in general, which may explain why there’s such a high percentage of queer furries compared to the general population.
What is a Fursuit and Why do People Wear Them?
A fursuit is simply a costume made to look like a furry character. it is pretty much no different from cosplaying comic, anime, or video game characters, except that most of the time fursuits are of original characters instead of pre-existing ones. People wear them for fun and self-expression, just like any other costume. They differ from mascot suits in that they tend to be of higher quality, and more form-fitting and expressive. Fake furries are usually pretty easy to spot on TV because they usually end up in cheap Easter bunny costumes.
While “fursuiters” are often the “face” of the fandom to outsiders, most furries don’t actually own a fursuit. They are expensive, cumbersome, take work to maintain, and don’t always play nice with certain health conditions and phobias. I personally am apprehensive about getting one because I worry I’ll have difficulty breathing, and I easily overheat. Others simply don’t see the appeal of dressing up.
Do Furries Think They Are Animals?
Generally speaking: No. People often mix up furries with a subset of otherkin known as Therians. Otherkin are people who believe themselves to be in some way non-human, usually spiritually or mentally a non-human creature. Therians in particular believe themselves to be in some way a non-human animal. Furries are on the other hand, as I said, just fans of anthro characters. While there are likely furries who are also therians, most are not.
People who approach furry conventions to yell “You know you’re not really an animal!” at the fursuiters is about the equivalent of going to an anime convention and shouting “You know you’re not really Naruto!” at the cosplayers.
Is Being a Furry a Big Part of a Person’s Life?
It varies, just like any other fandom. Take anime for example. Some people just watch it and maybe talk to their friends about it and that’s it. Others might go online to view fanart and read fanfic, even go to conventions. And some people fill every aspect of their life that they can with it, filling their home with merch, getting tattoos, even building careers like being a youtuber around it. The same goes for furries. For some people it never goes beyond consuming media and art, while for others it plays a big part in their day to day life.
Is it a Sex Thing? (VERY ADULT AND SENSITIVE CONTENT BELOW THIS POINT)
I won’t beat around the bush here. There IS a sexual side to the fandom, just like any other fandom. Any anime, comic, video game, TV show, book, there is a sexual side to its fandom. Furries are no different. Just like it’s easy to find anime porn, it’s easy to find furry porn. People be making porn, idk what to tell you.
“Isn’t that zoophilia?”
Some people seem to feel that way about it, but no, not really. The thing that differentiates furry porn from watching two dogs hump at the park is that the characters are anthro. They think and express themselves like people, and fans relate to them as they would with human characters.
This
is in no way the same as this
“Do people have sex in fursuits?”
Generally, no, for various reasons. 1. They are expensive and take work to maintain and keep clean, and you don’t want to get various fluids on them. 2. They can be cumbersome and get really hot and stuffy, not ideal. 3. They just aren’t made for it. They don’t usually offer access to ones’ genitals, and thus having sex in them would be rather difficult.
There ARE some people who will get suits specially made for having sex in, with holes in all the necessary places, but you’re not likely to see those out in public. Generally if you see someone walking around in public in a fursuit, you can rest assured it’s probably not been used for sex.
“Ugh but that’s weird!”
I mean, people dress up and roleplay characters during sex all the time. Is dressing up as Krystal the Fox all that different from dressing up as Harley Quinn? And anyway, what does it matter to you what consenting adults get up to in the privacy of their own bedroom? Maybe don’t think too hard about other peoples’ sex lives.
And despite the availability of furry porn, it is not all there is to the fandom, and not everyone participates in that part of it. Heck, there are a lot of minors in the fandom, I was a tween when I was introduced to it, and the only times I was exposed to porn was when haters would “raid” our forums and spam it at us while calling US perverts, all the while being told “Hey, there are kids here!” But no we’re totally the sex-crazed perverts here right?
“I’ve Heard About Furries Who Are Bad People”
Yeah, you probably have. It’s a big fandom and inevitably some of the people in it will do bad things. Again, it’s the same for every fandom. You take any percentage of the human population, you’re going to get a few bad ones. Actual zoophiles, pedophiles, rapists, abusers. If they exist in the general population they’re going to exist in the fandom. But generally when their actions are brought to light they are driven out of our spaces, as with most fandom spaces. No group is perfect and without its bad eggs, but most of us work to keep our spaces safe.
In the end, people looking at a group from the outside tend to only see the loudest, weirdest, most outrageous members, and assume that’s what the whole group is.
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Otherkin Challenge Post
I saw this and thought it would be fun. It also looks like a great way to vent, since no one I love knows about my kin identity..
1. What name do you go by? What is the significance of it to you?
My name is Briana, but I got by Breanne, a name from Englund during the time range of which werewolves/beasts were prevalent.
2. How old are you? (If you don’t mind sharing.) What is the gender you identify as?
I'm 21 years old, and female.
3. What is your Otherkin/Therian species?
I'm still trying to find a "label", but I would say Werewolve/Beastkin. Some sort of large monstrous canine creature.
4. How long have you known that you are Otherkin? How old were you when you Awakened?
I've been otherkin since I was 4, but I didn't find the term until highschool, so I guess I was awakened when I was 16. I was literally forced as a child to start "acting human." No more outside playtime, crawling on all fours, howling and barking and growling at people. I was a little heathen as a child, but I'm glad I got to express myself.
5. How did you find the Otherkin community?
A friend of mine who is a Kitsune (apologies if I butchered that), she showed me otherkin and Tumblr and Kinmunity, hoping that if I went back to therapy with this information it would help ease my depression.
6. How does being Otherkin affect your life?
It's mostly the depression. Not knowing who or what I am fully but still having these memories and flashes/glimpses of myself. It's like a constant dizzy spiral and I can't make it stop.
7. Are you "out of the metaphysical closet"? If so, to whom?
Barely. A few friends who I've grown apart from. I think if the man who raised me knew the term, he'd just know that I am. Nothing gets by him.
8. How did/would your family react to you being Otherkin?
I think they would shut me down. They've done it once before when I came out as nonbinary, and now that I've had a child, they think they won that argument. It's very disheartening.
9. What does being Otherkin mean to you?
It's a way to express myself/feel normal again. I've never felt human and I thought I was the only one. Now I see others with the same feelings and I feel at home in my own body.
10. How do you believe you came to be Otherkin? Is it a psychological connection? Were you reincarnated? Explain.
I very much believe I was reincarnated. I've always had a huge fixation on Englund during what I think was the 1700s. When werewolves and vampires and monsters ran rampant. I even have memories of men I've slayed in the types of clothes and homes you would of seen back then. I just can't pin point was exactly I was...
11. What do you hope the Otherkin community will be like in ten years? Are you for public awareness or against it? Why or why not?
I think it'll be stronger, hopefully with less misconceptions. I am for public awareness in the sense where if I go to a friend, they dont shun me. Or if I go to therapy, they know exactly what I'm talking about and can tell me, "Hey it's normal and this is why." I want all of us to be seen as normal.
12. Do you have phantom/astral limbs? What are they and how often do you feel them?
I do, I have a tail, a huge, kinda whippish, dog tail with fur. I can feel fur all over my body, excluding my stomach, at the weirdest times. I've grown out my nails and filed them so they now match as close as possible to the claws I feel. And lastly, if I focus hard enough, and there's wind outside, I can feel ears on my head that kinda sway or flop in the wind, depending on its strength.
13. Do you mental-shift? Have you ever harmed yourself or someone else during one?
I've had a few that just happened, and I didn't really know/register what was going on. I was alone for the majority of them so I've mostly just calmly idled, but there's always the urge to hunt something down, so I might end up hurt/hurting.
14. Have you ever mental-shifted at a time when it could be considered inappropriate?
I think so. We were in the car and the windows had to be rolled down because there's no AC. I closed my eyes and instantly felt a snout, fur, ears, the whole nine. I felt like the world melted away and I just enjoyed the wind in my fur. Then my friend snapped me out of it and said I looked like I had completely zoned out.
15. Do you Astral Project or practice any occult crafts?
No. Not quite talented enough.
16. Do you feel you are any sort of danger to society?
Probably more towards myself or animals than society. I do have an insane urge to hunt but nothing more.
17. Does your nonhuman identity complicate every day life for you? If so, how?
Not so much complicate, just makes me exhausted and depressed when I have to go out in the world and do things. I'm a very solitary creature, much rather be alone and talk on the phone versus be out with people or at a party. It makes me a twinge angry/irritable and anxious.
18. Why do you believe you are here as a human?
I didn't understand why until I had my son. Now I'm here to be a mother and raise my child as my father raised me. But before that, I was nothing...
19. Are you active among the Otherkin community?
I am, but I tend to be active while everyone else is asleep. I'm nocturnal.
20. Are you religious? What faith do you follow? Does it contradict your Otherkin identity or do you feel that the two are synonymous somehow?
I believe in a God or even the possibility of multiple Gods, but that is the extent of my religious beliefs. So, I just live my life and sometimes pray as a way to get answers on why my life is so..weird.
21. Have you ever been emotionally, verbally, or physically harassed simply for being Otherkin?
Not yet. I've been very selective on who I tell. The only person I want to tell is my husband, but he refuses to listen. He thinks it's a Furry thing. I guess I'll let him be blissfully ignorant.
22. Do you feel you are oppressed because you are Otherkin?
Not oppressed by society like a person of color or a trans person, just kinda oppressed by my husband. I dont understand why he would question something I do then not let me explain it. I know he still loves me or else I wouldn't have the life I do, it's just confusing.
23. What is your take on fictionkin/mediakin? What about machinekin and appliancekin?
I don't quite feel comfortable with "Factkin", but anything else, that is their identity. I shouldn't have and possibly will never have the ability to judge or say anything about someone else's identity. If that is you, it's you.
24. Did the awakening process seem relatively easy, or difficult to you? Why?
Very easy, in a sense that I already knew I wasn't human and I just needed some help realizing I wasn't alone and that it was ok to feel that way. Difficult because I still can't tell exactly what I am, so I go by werewolve.
25. What do you think of the information provided online about Otherkin, is it relevant or not?
I believe its relevant. It definitely helped me come to terms with myself, and talking to veterans (as we call them) helped me a lot too. It just depends on the articles and people you talk to.
26. How has your Otherkinity/Therianthropy defined you as a person? Do you feel as if it has given you morals that you didn't have before?
It's given me an identity, but it's only taught me to be more open minded and tolerant of other people's identities and ideas and questions,etc.
27. Have you learned any life-long lessons due to your Otherkinity?
To be more tolerant and open minded.
28. What do you want to do with your life?
That's a tough one. Firstly, raise my son to be an amazing, tolerant person in society, and secondly, be who I am. Even if it means living out in the woods for eternity, so be it.
29. Do you have any tips or advice for young and newly-Awakened Otherkin?
Seek help. Seek out a veteran. Let people question you. It may annoy you to no end, but it helps in the long run. Most importantly, remember, you are you. You are valid.
30. Anything else you'd like to share with us?
Respect others and their identities.
Be kind.
Remember, you are you.
Awwooooo.
Original is by @justanotherkin
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How did you decipher your kin through all of the different types???
Great question! While I’m still mildly questioning, I’m pretty certain I’m a canid cladotherian (including foxes and canines.) If you’re looking to find your theriotype or kintype, I would suggest recording all your nonhuman-related experiences in a journal or somewhere, shifts and anything else you deem an important part of your animality. From there you can narrow it down by researching animals and/or mythical creatures and find what fits you best. Don’t forget to listen to your feelings, however! If all the signs point to a Jackal, but it doesn’t feel right, chances are, you’re not a jackal.
Meditation and dreams are used by some to find their type, however take dreams with a grain of salt as these are not always accurate. Meditation is used incorrectly by many. Rather than trying to get dreams and visions, use it to observe how you truly feel.
I found my theriotype by a lot of thinking and pondering what was already present. I knew I had these habits and instincts, and some I “discovered” by simply observing myself, I just had to figure out why. So then I researched animals, which led me on the right track but for awhile I became even more confused. I was skeptical of the concept of being a “cladotherian” and it took talking to a few others who identified that way to accept that I might be one.
That said, here is a list of things that for me personally, point to being a canine-human. Some of these I already knew initially while others it took some research to discover that this trait very well may be related to a theriotype. The combination of these experiences as what I felt was “right” narrowed it down a lot for me. Everyone is different, so don’t think you have to have experiences just like mine.
(Warning: This turned out longer than I expected. It’s quite long!!)
🐺 Phantom Shifts 🐺
Ears: I have always had phantom ear shifts, but the problem lay in deciphering what kind. I soon realized that my phantom shifts would differ each time. Sometimes I would get the feeling on my head of large pointy ears like a coyote, while other times they would be smaller and furrier, more akin to the wolf. I have even gotten partially floppy ears before! The same with tails. Sometimes my tail feels like a fox’s, sometimes a wolf. (If you don’t know what I’m talking about, look up pictures of these things, that’s what it feels like, though I could be wrong.) I’ve even gotten a short tail I couldn’t figure out at the time, but assuming it wasn’t a cameo I think it could’ve been an African Wild Dog! I also get the occasional other kind of shift, such as muzzle shifts (sometimes it feels long and thin, other times more stocky but it definitely protrudes from my face.)
🐾 Sniffing things 🐾
I have a habit of sniffing things, things I’m not sure of, new things, things I’m about to eat etc… I gotta know what it smells like.
🐺 Growling and Snarling 🐺
When I was mad at someone when I was younger I would express this by growling and showing my teeth in a threatening gesture. There are obvious reasons I have learned to control this behaviour but the urge is still there.
🌲 Quad Running🌲
Running on all fours. It’s not easy, but for some reason I just kept trying it. It felt like it should feel more natural, the way I’m supposed to move but really it kinda just hurts my wrists. I still get the urges to do it though.
🐺 Behaviour Around Food 🐺
Have you ever heard the term “wolf it down?” I’ve never understood why people feel the need to talk while eating, I would never waste time getting the food to my stomach, besides maybe sniffing it first if I don’t know what it is/am not sure about it. I’m a pretty darn fast eater, and I have a habit (that I’m currently trying to kick) to eat and eat and not stop till I’m stuffed. Sometimes (not a lot, I’ve learned my lesson) I’ll eat so much during a meal that my stomach hurts after. I’ve never had any problems getting food or not having enough food, so I don’t think it’s related to that. I feel this is because when wolves and other canids (re: African Wild Dogs) get a meal, they have to eat it quickly to prevent their kill from being stolen, and eat as much as they can because they don’t know when their next meal will be. Believe it or not, a wolf can eat up to 20lbs of meat in one sitting!! On that note I am also uncomfortable leaving my meal alone, even when I know nobody will take it. As well, I have a very scavenger-ish mindset that is heightened when I’m hungry. I can feel my phantom ears perked and listening, my eyes scanning the landscape, searching for my prey whether it be the form of a vending machine or a 5 star restaurant. As a child I would walk around “scavenging” for the sole purpose of finding something edible— berries, nuts, even plants. Once again, I never really had any food security issues or anything like that. It just felt like something I should do.
I will eat anything—whoops, I just dropped my food on the floor. Did anybody see? Nope, guess I’m eating it anyway.
I can very easily become motivated by food. My English teacher gave out little assignments every once in awhile that we could either exchange for marks or candy. When candy was an option, I wanted the food! I would finish that assignment like my life depended on it I was so excited for the possibility of earning that candy.
🐕 Barking 🐕
I love practicing my bark. I used to have a bark so good in fact, it would fool people and other dogs! Alas those days are over, but what actually ruled out being just a wolf (what I used to believe about myself) was barking and the urge to bark. Wolves can bark, but do so very rarely.
🐾 Mental Shifts🐾
Mental shifts are like phantom shifts for me. I get them a lot but they may differ each time and sometimes depending on environment. Generally when I am safe in my “den” house, I become very playful and will often play wrestling games with my dog, (attempting to) use canine posturing, barking and play growling. It’s hard to resist the urge to just let loose and play and be a dog, so I have taught my dog to play fairly while wrestling with humans so no one gets hurt. Still, I’ve noticed that while I’m more shifty it feels natural and normal to play those sort of games, and when feeling less canine I am a bit scared to engage in play like that. I also have to remember to use my hands instead of my mouth otherwise I’ll get a mouth full of fur yucckkkkk. (Again, none of us hurt each other or actually bite eachother, that’s a no no.)
Other times I don’t particularly feel like playing with others, but I will toss around a toy and pounce on it.
Other times when I am in the house I don’t feel playful at all, but rather trapped. I feel hyper and full of energy and I just want to go outside and run and run and run and maybe howl.
A more “Wild” form of mental shift I get is when I’m in a place of nature. I feel canine but my phantom ears are swiveling all over and my senses feel heightened, alert to every sound. I feel like I’m always at least semi-alert for “predators,” more akin to a watchful coyote or fox than a top predator such as the wolf.
🐺 Love of singing 🐺
Maybe this doesn’t directly relate to being a canine, however since canines are very vocal creatures I thought I’d add it here. I absolutely adore singing and music (howling.) as a matter of fact, add howling to that list too, because I consider that singing and music as well. I am in absolute heaven when I can just let loose and howl/sing. I feel like it’s a social thing as well since I feel more inclined to sing when there’s others I know and love around (though less likely to do it 😂😂😂) I do feel this incorporates into my personal Therianthropy to an extent, however liking to sing doesn’t have to do with therianthropy in general, and many non-therians also love to sing.
🐶Chewing🐶
I feel the urge to chew things a lot and I would (and do) chew up pencils, water bottles, bones, anything that I can get my teeth on. (I also love gum for that reason and will often chew it way past the time the flavour is gone, just because I feel the need to chew something 😝)
🌲Longing for “home”🌲
From a very young age I was fascinated with nature, and felt strongly connected to it. I would build “dens” learn all the edible plants, pick berries and generally just spend the majority of my time outside. I absolutely loved camping. I’m sure this is common with some non-therians, but it went a little deeper than that. I saw the nature as my home, and have always, including now had a deep and intense longing or “homesickness” to return. I used to make secret plans as I was a kid, that the next time we went camping I would run away to live in the woods, maybe find a pack of wolves and live with them, which is the way I felt I was meant to live. Even now, the “human” way of life makes no sense to me and I’m baffled a lot by it.
🐾 Discomfort as a Human 🐾
Sometimes I just don’t feel comfortable as a human. I look at myself and I think this is not me.” When I think about how I should look, I know I have four paws and a tail and a muzzle. There’s a lot I would give to be able to physically shift (though it’s sadly impossible.)
🐾 My “Pack” 🐾
I am extremely suspicious of “outsiders” and generally it takes me a lot to warm up to people I don’t know, like a wolf that finds a strange canine on their territory. They either choose to avoid confrontation or will attack if deem necessary. Obviously I won’t attack people but I do feel like sending them away. Once I warm up to someone though and begin to actually trust them they become my “pack,” and that bond is not easily severed.
🌲Connection With Canines🌲
I’ve always been a lover of animals, but I feel particularly drawn to canines. If you’d ask what my biggest dream was, the right answer would be to live in a pack of wolves, to be a wolf or coyote or i can’t decide but something like that as crazy as it sounds. I feel like I understand them more than people sometimes. Canines are my family and they feel like home.
🐾 Walking on my toes 🐾
I have a habit of walking around “tiptoeing” like many digitigrade animals some of the time. It just feels normal even though humans are plantigrade. (That feels normal too, I do both.)
🐕 Startle response 🐕
My unusual reaction to being startled or hurt is to bark or yelp. Rather embarrasing if it’s in public.
🐩Awkward Socially🐩
I’ve always been a bit socially awkward, and while I’m not saying it’s all caused by being “a canine in a human body,” at least some of it I believe is for me. For example, I have always seen eye contact as a threatening or intimidating gesture, and used to deliberately look away from people when talking. While I saw myself as being “polite,” (it is, in the canine world,) I am perceived as rude by humans, and therefore have to “relearn” how to act socially because the canine social rules I use are not appropriate.
🐕 Play 🐕
As a child I felt most comfortable pretending to be a dog or a wolf. It was play, but it was also an expression of my natural behaviour.
🐾 Sleeping curled up🐾I find it oddly comfortable to sleep curled up into a little ball like an animal, though eventually I will stretch out, considering the human body was meant to sleep a little differently.
?? Den ??
I’m not too sure about this one, so I put it last, but when I feel scared or hurt, it’s most comforting to hide somewhere warm dark and cramped like a little den. I have heard of some kinds of foxes and smaller canids using dens for safety and living, though most canines simply use it as a place to birth their pups.
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