#Lancelot x Guinevere

[bibliophilicstranger]

Someone should write a fic where Gwaine and Lancelot meet on the road before Lancelot ever goes to Camelot. They're in a tavern, sheltering from the rain, and over pints of ale Lancelot would tell Gwaine how much he wants to be a knight, how he's on his way to Camelot because he wants to help people, to protect them. And all the while Gwaine is sitting there thinking, "you poor sucker, you've got no clue about the First Rule." But Lancelot's genuine desire to help people gets to him and so Gwaine sits there getting drunker and drunker, wishing that knights were as good as Lancelot idealistically thinks. And he gets this absolutely crazy idea.

When Lancelot wakes the next morning, a still half-drunk Gwaine is sitting across from him. And he tells him, dumping a piece of paper and a signet ring on the table, "You can't be a knight in Camelot. You're not a noble. But I could be. So Congratulations, you're now Gwaine, Son of Lot of Caerleon. Take this to Camelot and they should welcome you as a knight."

Lancelot protests. Strenuously. But Gwaine knows the rules. As a peasant, Lancelot could never be a knight in Uther's kingdom, no matter how good his fighting or how noble his character. And Lancelot wants his dream so much that he agrees. From now on Gwaine will be Lancelot and Lancelot will be Gwaine.

And so Lancelot heads off to Camelot. He and Merlin meet as they do in canon, but Lancelot fumbles the introduction, unused to his new name, then ends up confessing all to Merlin. Merlin is more than willing to help with shenanigans and helps Lancelot practice his introduction so he doesn't screw up again, then introduces him to Arthur. Lancelot gets knighted and doesn't get outed as a fake, since the paperwork is valid (even if it's not his paperwork). He and Lancelot defeat the Griffin, with Lancelot discovering Merlin's magic, but Lancelot gets feted rather than exiled.

This gives Merlin an ally, which has various effects, lets Lancelot and Gwen court, and means that when Merlin meets "Lancelot" in the tavern brawl, he knows who he is.

I think it'd be a interesting change to see the spiraling consequences of.

[mandoriana]

Gwen: Lancelot, do you love me even with all my flaws?

Lancelot: You are perfect, Gwen, there are no flaws, and even if there were, I would still love you.

Gwen: 🥰

Arthur: Merlin, do you love me even with all my flaws?

Merlin: Of course, Arthur, I love you despite everything.

Arthur: What flaws do I have? 😡

Merlin: 😅

[kate-bridgerton]

Period Drama Appreciation Week 2024 || Day 4 - Favorite Relationship || Lancelot and Guinevere

[starchaser45]

Kinda wanna grab Arthur and yell at him

"listen you little shit Lancelot did not die for you to dump Gwen based on advice from an uncle you barley know"

But Arthur acting even more stupid than usual when he became king just shows how young he is and it breaks my heart cause he's like what 22 😭

[twistedshipper]

Merlin 1x05 'Lancelot'

[thyeldenwitch]

welcome back lancelot and guinevere

[ophelianwater]

House of the dragon// Le Morte d'Arthur by Thomas Mallory (1485) // God Speed by Edmund Leighton (1900) // The Accolade by Edmund Leighton (1901)

[mertylmylove]

NO THANK YOU.💀👋

We don't need a twele year old girl with 16 year old boy. 😭😭 ,JUST LOOK AT LANCELOT FACE. HE LIKE "GIRL GET THE FUCK AWAY FROM ME* I'm not kidding.

[taliesin-the-bored]

“Lancelot Bears Off Guenevere” by Henry Justice Ford

[gawrkin]

Random question but do you think it's possible to do a story combining the Chronicle version where Guinevere marries Mordred willingly and the Vulgate where Guinevere and Lancelot are lovers without demonizing Guinevere? Specifically imagining in this version Guinevere is bitter like in E A Robinson and explicitly did not want to return to Arthur. Lancelot would have to assume that she was forced ofc as to not die of heartbreak but I think it could work and am surprised no one has tried it yet... it would also work for Guen and Morgan being foils since just as Morgan mellows out Guenevere decides fuck it I'm rebelling against my husband now. She can still have her little redemption where she joins a nunnery, therefore the opposite of Morgan who began in a nunnery.

Yes, you can if you know and aware of what you're doing. Buuut... it also comes with some concessions.

You are not beholden to the standard sequence of events anymore.

If you're combining the two divergent narratives together - making Guinevere love Lancelot and marry Mordred willingly - you've essentially created a new story. You have basically opened a can of worms regarding as to how and why things happen in the story. You are going to need to ask yourself a lot of questions:

Is Guinevere just using Mordred? Does Guinevere love Mordred? Or vice-versa? Mutual? Is Mordred marrying out of pragmatic need or is he also in deep love with Gwen? How did this happen while Guinevere is in a relationship with Lancelot?

How Lancelot aware or unaware of Mordred and Guinevere's relationship? Will he approve of the marriage in any sense? Would Lancelot even act and go back to Logres in the first place? Lancelot never cared about who is married to Guinevere (because Courtly Love), unless it was dishonorable for her to do so. Lancelot might just think that's a great move on Gwen's part if he and Gwen share a dismal view of Arthur. And that's if he wasn't forewarned of Guinevere's next moves beforehand by Gwen herself...

What about Lancelot and Mordred's relationship? Relationships don't happen in a vacuum. For things like a Mordred-loving-Guinevere or vice versa to happen while Lancelot is in the picture, you have to seriously consider setting up the characterizations and relationships a long way before the Fall. Are they aware of each other's affections for Gwen? Were they competing for Gwen's affections before the Grail Quest? Do they respect each other? Hate each other? You may just created a new Tristan-Palamedes-Iseult triangle. Which utterly alters the story. Remember, Mordred is Lancelot's junior in Vulgate.

Does the Burning at the Stake even happen in the first place? A Mordred-that's-in-love-with-Guinevere would never agree to her execution and, depending if he and Lancelot have positive relationship, would never be onboard with Agravain's plan. (It's why in Vulgate, Mordred falls in love after the Burning, nonsensical as it sounds) The exposure of the Affair won't go the usual way anymore, with Mordred going anywhere from convincing Arthur not to execute her, to protesting with Gawain, to dying alongside Gaheris and Gareth to Mordred joining Lancelot's rescue party and maybe killing his own brothers in the process.

Does Guinevere need to be sympathetic? Does anyone else, including Arthur, need to be sympathetic? Why? Are you worried about alienating the audience? Sometimes, you don't really need to morally justify the actions of a given character as long as they make sense and the narrative development with them is engaging /compelling enough on its own. In particular, are you trying to push a moral/ethical message to the audience? Is Arthur the bad guy or not? Is the Arthur in this story - regardless of his characterization - supposed to be in the right or in the wrong?

What is the Political situation surrounding Guinevere's willing marriage? Everyone is onboard with it? Archbishop Dubricius and the Church? Who is on Guinevere's faction? Who are against her and Mordred? Guinevere locking herself in the Tower of London wont happen now and instead Guinevere could... y'know... "Hey, Mordred, do you want to attack Arthur now while his back is turned so we can go save Lancelot?" A Mordred-who-hates-Lancelot won't do that, but Guinevere is now free to do alot of things and may have more than just Mordred on her side.

For that matter, what about the Roman War? It still happens in Vulgate, albeit minimized.

During the actual Mordred revolt, does Guinevere try and contact Lancelot of the situation? To help Mordred or just fish her out? Is she instead coordinating and planning with Mordred? Does she have a plan to do something? Again, she's not holed up in the Tower of London anymore, so why wouldn't she be proactively doing something?

Does Guinevere even NEED to go to a nunnery? If she hates Arthur, that goes out the window. A Guinevere that's bitter about Arthur would never feel the need for redemption. She would, in her mind, be justified in her actions. In both Historia Regum Britanniae and Vulgate Cycle, the reason she goes to a nunnery was because she was afraid of being killed by Arthur (and Mordred in Vulgate). It's only in Malory, that Guinevere becoming a Nun is an act of repentance for her actions, out of guilt regarding the death of her beloved husband and the collapse of the kingdom. Earlier stories are about protecting herself from retaliation. In particular, Vulgate cycle has Gwen become a nun out of fear when Mordred's sons are hunting her down. In your hypothetical story, Melehan and his brother could be Guinevere's own sons (ala Alliterative Morte Arthur) and so she has nothing to fear unless your story has Mordred and Gwen's relationship breakdown badly or Gwen has been a bad mother. And all this is assuming a nunnery is her first option. Why doesn't Guinevere go back to Cameliard? Potentially, with her sons and the Benoic faction in tow?

Would your Guinevere have the motive to sieze power and reassert her rule? Her "redemption" may not even come in the form of going to a nunnery - she can just desire to salvage Logres and rule as a possible Dowager Queen, with the aid of Melehan and/or Lancelot. Then Constantine comes into the picture....

So as you can clearly see, your ask has a lot of things going around than just simply slapping together two different narratives and expecting a simple fit, especially in a modern standard that seeks to make sure there are no plot holes.

But to reiterate, you can have your hybrid Chronicle-Romance narrative with a sympathetic Gwen if you know where things lead to what, how to get there, what are the consequences of xyz change and how to accomodate for those consequences.

[tabbytabbytabby]

Chapters: 9/13 (42,976 words)

Fandom: Teen Wolf, Merlin

Rating: Explicit

Relationships: Liam Dunbar/Theo Raeken, Merlin/Arthur Pendragon (Merlin), Derek Hale/Stiles Stilinski, Cora Hale/Lydia Martin

Tags: Getting Together, Friends to Lovers, First Kiss, Established Derek Hale/Stiles Stilinski, Established Cora Hale/Lydia Martin, Matchmaking, Love Confessions, Magic Revealed, Spark Stiles Stilinski, Derek Hale & Theo Raeken Friendship, Arthur Pendragon Is King, Crossover, Alive Lancelot, Alive Elyan, Arthur Knows About Merlin’s Magic, First Time, Smut, Fluff and Smut, Sheriff Stilinski’s Name is John, Good Peter Hale, Good Morgana

Summary:

In a land of myth and a time of magic...

Members of the Beacon Hills pack suddenly find themselves thrust back in time with the purpose of helping Merlin stop a threat that is approaching the walls of Camelot. They have no choice but to adapt and try and fit in with this unfamiliar world. Some are more successful than others. It becomes more complicated when they discover the beast that has been terrorizing the kingdom is someone familiar. Especially when they realize that the beast might not be the real threat at all.

Chapter 9 is now posted

[bureauen]

Queen Guinevere, ever since the madwoman Lancelot appeared, you've been acting strange!

[mandoriana]

[starchaser45]

Dishonoring Lancelot like that is the worst thing Morgana has ever done and nothing can change my mind ever she knew what she did to him is horrible but her hate is too strong and what's worse is that that hate is directed and the people that she loved the most and that Lancelot died for

[daliathewitch]

I've seen some people here posting their Camelot edits and felt an acute urge to joi

Lyrics translation: Combination

I sit at the chessboard

Situation

And I look at you with longing

Combination

You seem like a nice boy

Situation

But you dream about the other

[kaoribriefs]

Guinevere and Lancelot