#Lamech

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Genesis 4

4:1 This is the first real mention of Eve, before it was just "wife." Now it mentions that "Adam knew Eve," In this connotation, it means they had intercourse. The result is Cain, the firstborn son.

4:2 Abel born after Cain. Both of them played different roles. Cain was a "tiller of the ground" while Abel was "shepard of sheep."

4:3-5 Both offer sacrifices related to their expertise. God respected Abel's offering but not Cain's. Abel's offering was the "firstborn of his flock and of their fat" while Cain's offering was from the "fruits of the ground." Why would God dislike one person's offering if they both provided from what they specialized in? From how it is worded, we can be sure that Abel's sacrifice was significant because it was the firstborn and fatty. Cain's sacrifice could be interpreted in different ways. "From the fruits of the ground" could imply that the fruits were from the plants nourished from the ground. This verse could also mean that the fruits he offered for sacrifice were the rotten fruits that had already fallen to the ground. Because the verse states that they are "fruits OF the ground" rather than fruits ON the ground, I assume the former interpretation where Cain offered good fruits from his work.

Also, this is the first instance of sacrifice we see in the Bible. Why do we need to sacrifice? It was never a decree stated by God to offer sacrifices. Are sacrifices man's way of trying to appease God, when before our fall our pure existence was enough to appease Him?

4:6-7 God confronts Cain and asks why he should be sad. God says that although you brought the sacrifice rightly, it was not divided properly. What does that mean? Where do we find sacrificial rules if this is the first instance? This next part of the verse states that Abel should find recourse in Cain and that Cain should rule over Abel. Why have the roles seemingly switched here? Also, when seeing sad Cain, God says, "Be still." This must mean controlling the fluctuations in your head and emotions.

4:8 Cain kills Abel in seclusion. They talked beforehand. I'm wondering if that was to entice Abel to come to the fields or if it was to discuss what had happened at the sacrifice. Also, I'm curious as it says that they were in the fields: does this mean garden fields (Cain's territory) or sheep fields (Abel's territory)?

4:9 God here asks a question again to man. Since God already knows what is happening, this might be the second instance of opportunity for repentence seen in the Bible. Instead of repenting, Cain replies with arrogance: "Am I my brother's keeper?"

4:10 This sounds almost poetic, "The voice of your brother's blood cries out to Me from the ground." This is the first instance of where we see death and the fact of life after death. If there was no life after death, then it would be impossible for Abel to cry out to God.

4:11-12 Cain is cursed, the grounds should be hard and it is no longer easy to garden.

4:13 I find it mature and humbling to see Cain recognize his position he found himself in, or that just might be despair: "My guilt is too great to be forgiven!"

4:14-15 Cain worries that since he has been driven out from the face of the Earth and sorrowful, he is in danger of being killed by whoever comes across him. Why should someone be condemned to death for being sorrowful? Maybe because they see the impurity of a person, which has no place in God's creation? But that doesn't make sense because the first people were impure for eating the forbidden fruit. God calms Cain's worries by giving Cain a mark that ensures that if anyone kills Cain shall face a 7x vengeance. This is the second instance we see the number 7, in this context it seems arbitrary, but it also appears in the 7 days of creation.

Side note: Cain is worried about someone finding him and killing him. By name, the only people we know are Cain, Abel, Adam, and Eve. Since Abel is out of the picture, that means there is only Adam and Eve. It wouldn't make sense that Cain would be worried about his parents trying to kill him. Also if Cain was just worried about his parents trying to kill him, I feel like he would have phrased his concerns differently. Which means that there must have been other people living at the same time. Where did these other people come from? I am assuming that Adam and Eve had other children that were not explicitly mentioned by name. Also, it was never stated that Cain was the firstborn from Adam and Eve.

Side note pt.2: The fact that God does not leave Cain for himself but imparts a mark on him that if anyone else were to harm Cain, they would be harmed 7x. This is another instance of love we see, unconditional love. Even when the child has committed murder, the Father still looks after him and wishes the best for him. Don't get me wrong, God might still be mad, and that is perfectly normal, but above that anger lies love.

4:16 Cain leaves the "presence of the Lord" and lives in Nod. So this. is the official leaving of Eden. First, man was in paradise in Eden. Then, man was cast out of paradise but still in Eden (?). Now man leaves Eden. I wonder what 'Nod' means. Also mentions that Cain leaves the presence of the Lord. This probably means that Cain left the physical presence of God, not God's omnipresent watch.

4:17 Cain knew his wife, wife is left unnamed. Cain had a son with his wife named Enoch. Cain built a city and named it after his son. I wonder what a "city" was like back then, especially with significantly fewer people. Also, if Cain built a city, then what happened to Nod? Is it rather the name of the land? I would think Nod is the name of the land and Enoch is now a city in Nod.

4:18 Statment of lineage: Enoch to Irad to Mehujael to Methushael to Lamech.

4:19 First mention of a man having two wives. Lamech has Adah and Zillah.

4:20-21 Adah bore Jabal, who was the father of the people who dwelled in tents and had livestock. Adah also bore Jubal who played instruments. This is the first instance we see animal farming and musical art. Art previously was comprised of God's work, while this example of music is human-derived.

4:22 Zillah bore Tubal-Cain who was a smith. Zillah also bore Naamah. Naamah is the only female offspring and the only one who was not given any role or title.

Side Note: When lineage is portrayed, it is always listed under the name of the Father. This shows patriarchal lineage. This statement is also supported by the mention of the contribution of each of Lamech's sons but not his only daughter.

4:23 Lamech speaks to his wives. Interestingly he says "wives of Lamech" rather than 'my wives.' Is this because of the grammatical structure of the language they used? He attests that he killed a man for "wounding" him and a young man for "hurting" him. It is as if Lamech is basing his authority on his ability to do cruelty. This might be the first instance of rule by fear. Although previously God had instructed man not to do things in fear of death, God did not leverage death so that man had no choice but to listen to His word. Lamech on the other hand is leveraging death for any form of denial to his requests. Lamech seems to be following the principle of if you do me harm then I will give it back to you manyfold.

4:24 Lamech states his status over Cain, stating that Lamech should have 77x avengement if Cain had 7x avengement. Lamech is probably basing this claim on the action of human harm. In Lamech's mind, the stronger and more able one is to inflict harm on other humans, the more power and divine retribution received from God. If God had loved violence and harm, why would God have offered man opportunities of repentence for both Adam and Cain? I think God does not focus on harm and power for one human over another (other than what was mentioned about Adam over Eve).

4:25 Adam and Eve bore another son named Seth. It's surprising that Adam and Eve are still around and able to produce children after many generations from Cain. Maybe the span of life was different back then. Seth is created in a position to essentially be Abel's successor of purity, rather than letting just Cain's lineage live.

Side note: Adam says that he finally has another seed aside from Cain and Abel. This statement provides evidence that Adam did not have any other sons. But that does not discount that Adam might have had many daughters that were not named. Otherwise, where did all the humans come from? If daughters were never named then that would follow the theme of the importance of men for lineage. But also if females were never named, then why was Naamah named?

4:26 Seth had a son named Enosh. It is stated that "he hoped in the Lord God and called upon His name." Who is "he" in this instance? Is it referring to Enosh or Seth? Since the comma is before "and" in the sentence, I am assuming it is Seth. Also this is the first explicit reference to prayer in the Bible. Interestingly, those descendants of Cain lived lives that were Earthly while those descendants of Seth seemed to have a Godly focus. For context, Cain's lineage was also raised in Nod while Seth probably never left Eden, where Adam and Eve were. So that is one argument for the nurture aspect of personality.

Other Remarks:

If Cain, Abel, and Seth were the only sons of Adam and Eve, then that would imply that Cain was afraid of being killed by a daughter of Adam and Eve. This is interesting because it contradicts the power of man over woman.

Cain's sorrow did not ask for repentance. The root of Cain's anger was grief at the disappointment and humiliation of his sacrifice not being accepted by God. The lesson that we must take from this is that we need to process our emotions and ground them. Leaving emotions unchecked can manifest themselves in different and malicious ways, both for others and for ourselves.

Questions:

Why are sacrifices necessary?

Why was God not appeased with Cain's offering? What does it mean that Cain's offering was not "divided" properly?

Where did the other humans that are unnamed come from?

What did Seth call out to God for?

Things to Add to Prayer:

Help us to "be still" in times of sorrow and anguish.

Help us acknowledge our arrogance and shortcomings

Help us to unconditionally love, like you loved your creation.

Help us not to view the world through the lens of self-fulfillment but rather the fulfillment of your will.

-Mikhael

[ilovepandw]

Biblically Speaking, Is Satan the Father of Music?

Do you know what the Holy Bible states about Satan and Music? There are many people who called themselves “Christians” still do not know how to response to this question. Let’s find out today by going and getting your bible for this great bible study. It will pave a way for clear understanding of the truth about true acceptable worship towards God. We will start in the Old Testament Genesis…

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The Unforgiving Servant

The vast mercy, grace, and abounding chesed (lovingkindness) of our Father and King culminates in His willingness to forgive. So, as recipients of His lavish love, why do we often prefer vengeance, pay back, and punishment when wrongs have been committed against us? The parable of the unforgiving servant demonstrates this truth perfectly; and yet, I wonder if we really can see just how much we…

[walugus-grudenburg]

Call Estuary Lamech "Orpheus" the way he turned around at the worst possible moment when he was so close to saving a loved one

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[!Warning!] Suggestive Clothing

Lamech has been alive for 1,000+ slutty, slutty years

[theroguequeenaniki]

~ Baby you’re the one You can do no wrong You can make me Whole Again ~

- Whole Again, Play, RePlay (June 10 2003), July 8, 2003

[tom4jc]

Noah: Man Of Resolve (book review)

Title: Noah Man of ResolveAuthors: Tim Chaffey & K. Marie AdamsPublisher: Master BooksDate: 2017Pages: 296 Noah Man of Resolve (book review) In this second book of the trilogy on the life of Noah, the authors, Tim Chaffey and K. Marie Adams, pick up the story right where the first book (Noah Man of Destiny) left off. Noah begins to see the corruption of the world in the city in which he…

[jollmaster]

(re)design trivia: Cain

° looks like father in appearance

° actually, it's more accurate to say "both parents", since Adam and Eve are technically closer than siblings

° lanky and gruff

° with spikes in hair

° a habit of holding a stalk in mouth

° permanently chafed feet from farming

° how to be cheerful when you were conceived in Eden and then born in the middle of wild wastelands

° was an ancestor of the tribes of East

° killed Abel by slitting his throat with a sickle and pouring the blood on the ground like an altar

° shot by his own great-grandson while hunting: Lamech was almost blind and mistook Cain for a mountain ram

main gang: Vaggie, Charlie, Angel Dust, Niffty, sir Pentious, Cherri Bomb, Husk, Alastor

Heaven: Adam, Eve, Lute, Emily, Sera

Adam and Eve's children: Abel, Seth, Awan, Azura

Hell: Lilith, Lucifer, Seviathan, Helsa, Razzle and Dazzle, Keekee

Vees: Vox, Valentino, Velvette

overlords: Zestial, Rosie, Carmilla Carmine, Odette and Clara, Flaming Skull Guy

friends and relatives: Mimzy, Arackniss, Molly, Alastor's mom, Alastor's father

[tomicscomics]

09/14/2023

For-give me a break!

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JOKE-OGRAPHY: 1. In this story, Jesus is telling the disciples about forgiveness.  He starts by telling them how to handle a sinner in their community.  First, meet him alone and explain his fault.  If he repents, you've won back your brother.  If not, bring some friends and try again.  If he still won't repent, bring in the church (the local congregation).  If he still won't repent, treat him as you would a Gentile or tax-collector (that is, shun him).  Essentially, an arrogantly sinful person damages their community and must be excommunicated. 2. Now Jesus has told the apostles what to do if someone doesn't repent.  What if they DO repent, but then fall to sin again?  Peter asks Jesus how many times they should be willing to forgive a sinner.  He offers the number seven, but Jesus says, "Not seven times, but seventy-seven times."  This seems to be an allusion to Lamech's boast in Genesis: "I have killed a man for wounding me, a young man for bruising me.  If Cain is avenged seven times, then Lamech seventy-seven times."  While Lamech uses this number to express infinite vengeance, Jesus turns it on its head and uses it to express infinite mercy.  While an unrepentant sinner must be turned away until his pride yields, a repentant sinner must always be welcomed back to the fold. 3. In this cartoon, Peter makes the "seven times" suggestion, as in the Bible, but he also manifests the number seven to illustrate his suggestion, as a Sesame Street character might do.  Jesus tells him it should be more than seven, so Peter, logically, suggests the next number: eight.  Jesus tilts the physically manifested integer onto its side then gives His approval.  The joke, dear reader, is not that Jesus is a cat Who topples things, willy OR nilly.  Nay, the joke, most beautiful literate, is that an eight on its side looks like the symbol for infinity.  By doing this, Jesus implies that forgiveness should be infinite.  The same lesson as the Bible story, but with HUMOR. 4. This is funny.

AUTHOR'S NOTE: Hold onto your keisters, boys and girls.  The oldest of you might've recognized this cartoon.  That's because it's another Tomics Resurrection, where I've breached the forbidden crypts of cartoons past, smashed open a sarcophagus, dragged its ancient denizen onto a stone altar, and chanted terrible dark words among foul-smelling candles until the old cartoon's husk twitched and cracked its way back to colorful life!  How does the new compare to the old?  Tell me the price was worth it!  TELL ME IT WAS WORTH IT!!!

[walugus-grudenburg]

Yeah! The fact that Lamech got that far, finally wanted to do the right thing, yet turned away out of his absurd sense of loyalty anyway! Ough it tears at my heartstrings! And oh god you're right! I hadn't realized that there was seriously zero threat to Irad if he just... didn't. banish Naamah. Lamech won't go against him, the other Estuaries can't take him in a fight, and he didn't know about Tubal's automatons! He does say he was scared about the King returning. But it's even more silly if this idiot really thought Cain was coming back without the bell being rung! And evidently he's the only one who knows where the true bell is! So what the fuck was he scared of??? Just— god this man's an idiot.

yesterday i was rereading enochs prime lore bc i wanted to film the music change for a friend and got absolutely suckerpunched by the fact that lamech went to the kerguelen gatehouse. and THEN turned away. everyone knew he couldnt do it everyone knew he wouldnt defy irad naamah was on the other side of the gates and i just. oh i am so so so deeply upset

now it might not be the #1 most awful thing irad did but the banishment of naamah is by far. the most irritating. because you use the 'void beasts' MEHUJAELS ESTUARIES. HIS DEATH FACTORS INTO IT. & HE BLATANTLY KNOWS ITS AN EXCUSE . lamech is the only one hes worried about strength wise and he wont go against irad so yk if enoch hadnt acted. shit dude no consequences!!!!!!!! irad what the fuck is wrong with you.

[idylls-of-the-divine-romance]

I really am sick of this whole "God doesn't make mistakes" attitude towards trans people/people with gender dysphoria. Now, I am not trans nor do i have dysphoria, and what you think the scripture does or does not say about that is your business and not something I wish to talk about.

But what I do wish to talk about is this "absolute sovereignty of God" thing that's going on. Do I believe God makes mistakes? No. I believe that the God as represented in the Scriptures is infallible, whole and pure. I believe that everything in God's will is good. But that does not mean everything happened in accordance with God's will. And if you think it was, I am genuinely concerned about your theology.

Did God want "the Fall"? Did God want Cain to murder Abel? Did God want Lamech to accumulate wives like property and to murder men for insulting him? Did God want the Sons of God to violate human women? Did God want Ham to (possibly?) rape his mom or dad (very unclear what happened. Def sexual sin tho)? Did God want Abram to bring a curse upon Egypt? Did God want Abram and Sarai to abuse Hagar? Did God want Sodom to be a city of rapists who abuse widows and the poor? Did God want Isaac to be a liar like his father? Did God want Jacob to be a worse liar than his father and grandfather combined? Did God want Jacob and Esau to have enmity? Did God want Judah to mistreat Tamar? Did God want Joseph to become a slave and almost get assaulted (read that passage carefully. She did try to assault him)?

And I'm only in the first book of the bible! What about the enslavement of the Hebrews? What about the sex cult the make on Sinai? What about the countless rebellions? What about Saul? What about poor Bathsheba? What about the idolatry of Israel and Judah?God brings good out of evil, but God by no means desires evil, and to say that would be heresy because if God desires evil he cannot be completely Good.

God doesn't make mistakes. But the world is fallen. Wars happen. Rapes happen. Children lie to the parents. Parents abuse their children. People are enslaved. There are wars and rumors of wars. There are abominations of desolation. Sacred places are destroyed. Innocent people are taken into exile. These things are not signs of "the end times" but signs of the hell that is earth.

Tl;dr: If you're gonna be anti-trans or transphobic, go ahead, do it. But by all means do not try to say "God does not make mistakes" because the second someone is born gay, it's a mistake that they're gay. Your logic is failing; your theology is heretical.

[walugus-grudenburg]

All my life I fought to fight

Now I can for once do what's right

So why when my leader says

From his tower with its sun rays

"Those void beasts, leave them unslain"

While people die from frozen rain

I turn my back in defeat

Knowing many might never eat

I disappoint the scholar

Still wearing the soldier's collar

Obey leader and our king

No matter what harm it may bring

- A poem I wrote late at night about Estuary Lamech at the collapsed bridge

[juliapriestman]

I'm thinking about Cain with long hair

Adam is in Hell, not recognizing his son from behind and considering him a tall, beautiful female sinner: Hey, pretty girl, let's hang up?~

Cain, slowly turning around with an awkward face: I do not know if this should be considered a compliment on your part, Dad...

Adam, frozen in shock: ...listen, I always wonder: why the hell do you have long hair all the time? Do you even get a haircut sometimes?

Cain, combing his hair and braiding it into a braid: A genetic lottery, Dad, and you know who participated there. And yes, I get a haircut from time to time... Except my hair grows back pretty damn fast.

Adam, watching his son's new hairstyle: And where did you learn to braid them so beautifully?

Cain, smiling sadly: My wife taught me... plus, Noema (a descendant of Cain, the daughter of Lamech) agreed to be a training model for hairstyles.

[theroguequeenaniki]

I wanna go left, but they tell me, "Go right" (I wanna, I wanna, I wanna be) Don't wanna be the little girl they're kissing goodnight (I wanna, I wanna, I wanna be) The moral of the story is I got no choice I must not chase the boys

- I Must Not Chase The Boys, Play, RePlay (June 10 2003), April 29th 2003

[whencyclopedia]

Noah

Noah is considered one of the patriarchs in the Jewish Scriptures or one of the founding fathers of what became the religion of Judaism. His story begins in Genesis 6 and consists of three elements: the evil of the earth; the flood narrative; Noah’s descendants in the list of the nations of the world. Noah was the son of Lamech and lived to be 500 years old.

The Evil of the World

When human beings began to increase in number on the earth and daughters were born to them, the sons of God saw that the daughters of humans were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose. Then the Lord said, "My Spirit will not contend with humans forever, for they are mortal; their days will be a hundred and twenty years." The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown. (Genesis 6:1-4)

"Nephilim" in Hebrew is difficult to translate. From the root of this word, it has often been translated as "those who do violence", and it came into the King James version as "giants". Many ancient cultures had folklore tales of giants in the distant past. Later Jewish traditions claimed that the sons of God were angels and when these fallen angels mated with women, they also taught humans the art of metallurgy. This led to two evils, the coining of money and weapons of war. In the apocalyptic literature of the visions of Enoch, they are called the Watchers. This text claimed that they were punished by God by being chained in the lowest pits of She’ol, an early Jewish concept of Hell.

The Lord saw how great the wickedness of the human race had become on the earth, and that every inclination of the thoughts of the human heart was only evil all the time. The Lord regretted that he had made human beings on the earth, and his heart was deeply troubled. So, the Lord said, "I will wipe from the face of the earth the human race I have created—and with them the animals, the birds and the creatures that move along the ground—for I regret that I have made them." But Noah found favor in the eyes of the Lord. (Genesis 6:5-8)

We read that Noah was "a righteous man, blameless among the people of his time, and he walked faithfully with God. Noah had three sons: Shem, Ham and Japheth" (Genesis 6:9-10). God told Noah that he was going to "put an end to all people" (Genesis 6:13). For centuries, this passage has been analyzed in relation to understanding the nature of God. If God is omniscient (all-knowing), did he not know that humans would commit evil? How could God change his mind about his creation? However, this story was not unique. Other cultures had stories of a god or the gods punishing humans for their evil. In Egyptian mythology, the sun god Ra, sent his daughter Sekhmet (the lion goddess) to slaughter humans. He then had to undo her destruction when it appeared that all humans would be destroyed and so he made her drunk by beer that resembled blood to stop the slaughter. In Greek mythology, the god Zeus also wanted to punish humans (see below).

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[eesirachs]

what is the significance of the number seventy times seven (forgiveness), or seventy sevenfold (Cain and Lamech reference) or seventy weeks (Daniel and Babylon ref) etc? why this number?

in hebrew, the word ‘seven’ shares a near-same triconsonantal root as the word ‘whole’ (שבע). but here the biblical lexicon is only drawing on more archaic ones—the number seven has a significance that is taken for granted even in sumerian, the first ane language. why this number matters, then, precedes our ability to articulate in writing that mattering