#Knight of Heart
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cgtg · 2 months ago
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HEART PLAYERZ ONLY
as with the prev polls: if you consider multiple, i suggest going for the one u feel aligned with currently/most often, which one u wanna represent in a poll like this, whichever has the most compelling role/narrative, whatever works for U. classpecting is very subjective, and fluid for a lot of people.
i actively encourage discussion in the replies of what your class and aspect mean to u. simple or lengthy, i wanna hear it :J
excluding master classes bc no space for em, sorry.
for those who cant vote: i’d appreciate u passing the poll along. also, i’ll likely post updates throughout the week on how it’s going so everyone can have a peek inside. thank u
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starlit1daydream · 4 months ago
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Knights & Pages: Deficiency and Exploitation
Well, then... here we are.
A day in delay, I'm aware; but I'm afraid I can't always be accounting for extraneous real-life factors. My apologies.
The Knight:Page class dichotomy embodies deficiency, exploitation and arguably compensation as well. They imbue their Aspect into their fighting prowess, utilise it both as a weapon and a tool, and often use it to constitute a shield as well. (Literally and metaphorically).
The presence of either (or both) of these classes also functions as a signal; as by their very nature, they exist to compensate for a deficiency in their Aspect within their session proper.
Canonical Knight players are Dave Strider (Knight of Time), Karkat Vantas (Knight of Blood) and Latula Pyrope (Knight of Mind).
Canonical Page players are Jake English (Page of Hope), Tavros Nitram (Page of Breath) and Horuss Zahhak (Page of Void).
So, Point A. The narrative function of the Knight.
Narratively speaking, the Knight is one who defends their Aspect; and uses it as a defense in turn. They are defined by maintaining a rigid facade, born of their Aspect and used to hide a perceived deficiency in it. Their Aspect is their sword and their shield, and this oft manifests as a deep-seated insecurity.
Dave's insecurity is with his masculinity, mortality and conception of 'heroism'. Karkat's insecurity is with the colour of his blood, his fear of ostracisation and social exile. Latula's insecurity is less clear-cut, but the most prevalent theory is that the injury that rendered her anosmic also left her with brain damage.
Thus, we see here that their fear comes from lacking in their Aspect. Dave lacks confidence in his ability to face closure & his projections of masculinity (something he misconstrues with heroism). Dave doesn't want a great destiny; he wants to be a normal guy who lives a normal life and dies a normal death. He's essentially a tutorial NPC thrust into plot bullshit after plot bullshit.
Karkat lacks confidence in his sense of self caused by his mutant blood and his persistent fear of social ostracisation and subsequent death should his status be exposed. One could also argue it is a disillusionment with the Alternian social order that he does not fit into by design, but feels he must follow anyways (hence his ass-kissing dreams of threschecutioner greatness).
(Here's where the conjecture comes in...)
Latula lacks confidence in her capacity for rational thought and ability to use logic for her own (and others') defense. If we're going with the TBI narrative for her, she feels as if she lacks intelligence as a result. Tying into Latula's commentary on the misogyny in online gaming circles and we get a girl who is deeply, deeply terrified of rising above her station and displaying an intellect.
So, Dave pretends to be a self-assured, chauvinistic 'cool kid'.
Karkat pretends to be a bossy, self-righteous 'perfect leader'.
Latula pretends to be an air-headed, radical 'gamer chick'.
All of them deny themselves depth and identity for the explicit purpose of denying people the right to know them on a deeper level.
Let's simplify this - Knights feel they lack their Aspect and compensate for it. End of.
Here's where the dramatic irony comes in; Knights are the only people in their session who are proficient with their Aspect at all. Dave is the only Beta Kid concerned with Time management, Karkat is the only Beta Troll concerned with maintaining social order and collaboration, Latula is the only Alpha Troll concerned with logical thought and logical argument.
Because the Beta Kids lack Time on their side, the Beta Trolls lack Blood to bind them together, and the Alpha Trolls lack Mind to... well, to be totally blunt, to use their fucking brains.
(The Beta Kids' lack of Time being tied moreso to the nature of their Game as opposed to the nature of themselves is absolutely a matter of Lunar Sway, by the way).
That's what they need to learn, and subsequently use their Aspect to defend. Dave defending his co-players from certain death and entropy, Karkat defending his co-players from turning on eachother and descending into conflict, Latula defending Mituna from disbelief and abuse through logical counterargument.
Here, we're dovetailing directly into Point B - practical function.
We're all caught up in flowery metaphors and abstract conceptions, but how does this translate to a literal function within SBURB?
Simple. The Knight imbues, exploits and weaponises their Aspect. They don't generate it or control it in any way - that's the caveat of their function. Knights must exploit an already existing well of their Aspect and use that minimal supply to the best of their abilities.
It's the literal manifestation of their abilities for compensation! They have to merely 'make do' with what's available. After all - if there was an influx of their Aspect to work with, there wouldn't be a deficiency to combat.
This journey ties into their narrative function as learning to use it and defend through it also comes with dropping the mask and putting down your sword every once in a while. We don't ever get to see this fully with Latula, unfortunately, but we see Dave and Karkat (through means of eachother, actually) learn to relax in eachothers' presence and drop some of their unhealthy preconceptions.
Now, let's go on to the Pages!
Point C - narrative function.
Pages function in much the same way as Knights on a base level - existing to cover for an existing deficit in their session by virtue of compensation. The difference, obviously, comes in their passivity - and their different manifestation of their Aspect which more directly feels to be a shield as opposed to a sword.
Pages turn the Knights' overcompensation on its' head. Like Knights, they too believe their lack their Aspect, and thus project an image of possessing an influx of it. The difference is that Pages... actually do have that deficiency.
Jake lacks Hope. He lacks faith in himself, lacks the belief in his own capacity to bring a better future and finds it difficult to hold onto his convictions when the going gets tough.
Tavros lacks Breath. He lacks a direction or an objective to follow, lacks freedom by virtue of his disability and Vriska's control of his life. He prefers to avoid things and run away from problems.
Horuss lacks Void. He lacks the ability to cope with imperfection and the fact he doesn't know things. He can't deal with being absent or bereft of purpose.
And, likewise, their sessions lack their Aspect as well in equal measure!
The Alpha Kids lack Hope in the same manner - they don't have the motivation to keep going and find themselves falling into depression and passivity. Dirk even lampshades this!
The Beta Trolls lack Breath - none of them have freedom to choose their own destinies due to oppressive Alternian society and thus fall into the trappings of the roles laid out before them.
The Alpha Trolls lack Void - the teenage echo chamber of drama and gossip denies anybody the right to secrecy or privacy, and their presence in the dreambubbles forces them into proximity and furthers this absence.
Now, it's a common conception that this absence means a Page is weak by default, or outright useless. I absolutely abhor this notion. A Page is not the 'weakling' class - they merely rely upon guidance.
For Jake, it's his fantasies. His masks. His projections of heroism and adventure - and Brain Ghost Dirk is the literal manifestation.
For Tavros, it's his false confidence. It's his assurance that he can stand up for himself and fly to safety should the going get tough - and Rufio is the literal manifestation.
For Horuss, it's his 'renaissance man' projection. It's his showcase of absolute perfection and ideal highblooded taste - and his alters and therian identity are the literal manifestation. (However poorly executed it was, and oh boy was it poorly executed and oh boy was it ableist.)
For this, they're prone to subsequently use their Aspect as a defense mechanism in a more passive manner than the acerbic Knights who prefer to fight with it.
Jake hides behind his fantasies, Tavros runs away from everything he can't face and Horuss pretends he can't hear the sound of Rufioh breaking up with him.
And, of course, as everyone will tell you - this comes with a vast well of potential. Pages are not uniquely powerful or the 'strongest class' like some people would have you believe, but it is true that upon undergoing development, they become incredibly confident in that Aspect. It just happens to be a long journey that no Page fully completes on-screen.
It is learning to accept their own lack of proficiency with their Aspect, drop the mask and begin forging a more genuine relationship with it. Knights must learn to relax, Pages must learn to stop relaxing. It's almost like a little inversion of their active:passive roles, if you want to see it like that!
Point D. Practical function.
Pages... yeah, this is really fucking obvious. Look at Jake. Look at that thing he does. You know? The gigantic shield of pure Hope energy he generates when his full potential is tapped into.
That's what a Page does. They tap into the well of their Aspect to use it as a great shield, making their defense of themselves through their Aspect literal. And, yeah, that's pretty goddamn powerful!
It's like they're meant to embody the little 'sidekick' role in shonen. Koichi Hirose. Koichi Hirose is a Page.
So, there we have it. The classes of compensation. I'll be putting out individual analyses of all of these class combinations soon-ish once the main seven posts are out, so be looking forward to that! I'll be back with you soon wiht the second part of this: Mages and Seers.
And that should be fun, 'cause I am one.
Take care.
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roxygenize · 8 days ago
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Isabel Guerra Godtier Classpect!
Design inspo: @coffeecats900
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neostellarjpg · 7 months ago
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im fairly certain im a knight of heart and it’s on of the most common self-classpects so I’m curious on how you’d interpret it
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very kind sweet gardener guy. subconsciously projects a facade of goofy cluelessness, but he knows what hes doing more than he lets on. unhealthily selfless. not opposed to the occasional well employed white lie. surprisingly decisive and stubborn. laughs and cries easily, but is difficult to take off guard. always thinking of how much he loves his friends and seems to constantly come up with new ways to appreciate them. super gentle, and good at pacifying people when they're at their wits' end. says things like "this isn't you :(" with 100% seriousness, and is probably right. i have no idea what to name him. eric maybe?
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midwinter-morning · 1 year ago
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uhm.... sekaistuck
Here's my analysis of n25's classpects, I also made art of them, and changed the godtier designs a bit to fit them better, made it a bit more personalized.
Kanade - Sylph of Time
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Sylph is a class that heals with their aspect, or creates the aspect in others.
One of the symbols of the aspect of time is music.
So you probably know where I'm going with this, Kanade wishes to save as much people with her music as possible, no matter the cost, even if it takes a toll on her physical and mental health. She spends as much time as possible on composing, to get more time she consumes energy drinks and eats instant noodles.
Sylphs have natural understanding of their aspect - Kanade is a composing prodigy, at the age of 10 she was making better music than her father, and in area conversations it's revealed that she's a living timer, she knows exactly when the light will turn green because she counts the seconds and never misses.
When she promised Mafuyu to keep composing for her, it made Mafuyu keep trying to look for her true self. So in classpect terms, she literally created more time for her. Her music also brings comfort to thousands of n25 listeners, keeps them going. Kanade is a patient person too, she has no problem in giving Ena more time to work on her art if it means it'll be better, in this case she's the most understanding in n25.
Mafuyu - Maid of Void
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Maid is a class that is burdened by their aspect, and is also 'made' of it. It's often interpreted as a class that creates their aspect for themselves.
The aspect of Void symbolises emptiness, nothingness, the unknown, shadows, secrets, lack of meaning, but also infinite potential and hidden talents. It's an aspect of people lost in the dark.
So the Maid of Void creates nothingness, is made of nothingness, and is burdened by nothingness, which sounds weird but actually fits Mafuyu very much. She literally created empty SEKAI from her true feelings - how cold and empty she feels. She also keeps n25 and her true feelings a secret from her mother. And regarding the burden of nothingness - she is tired of not knowing who she is, she is tired of coldness and emptiness she feels in her chest.
But I don't think Mafuyu hates what void represents, she likes the calm and quiet of empty SEKAI, she cares about her empty aquarium, she does find some comfort in nothingness, it's just the fact that there's too much of it.
But it's not all sad and gloom, Void is hidden potential and talents, which Mafuyu has tons of, to the point it makes Ena jealous.
Ena - Prince of Space
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Prince is someone who works hard and relies on outside validation. Basically Ena.
Space is associated with arts and crafts, it's about creating material stuff you can touch.
I don't have a coherent analysis here, just trust me bro. I really can't explain my thought process here as well as I want, so I'm just leaving you the short classpect description, check out the sources if you wanna know more about the classpect.
Mizuki - Knight of Heart
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Knights are people who put up a front to hide their weaknessses and insecurities. They're also the guardian of their aspect.
Heart is an aspect of identity, Heart players live rich inner lives and are invested in self-discovery, they tend to be dramatic and often struggle with being misunderstood.
Mizuki does everything they can to hide their problems under their bubbly personality, they don't want to be too bothersome to others. When Ena is worried about them, Mizuki feels like they're a bad person. They've been hurt in the past, and struggle with anyone getting too close, essentially, guarding their Heart.
It may be hard to notice at first, but Mizuki is one of the most emotionally intelligent characters in the cast. They did self-discovery, they do self-retrospection, and in turn they understand other people better. They're quick to pick up when something is wrong, or when someone feels down - they see the little things. Mizuki was the first character to notice mafumom's weird behavior too.
Sources:
@classpect-navelgazing - My main source, I recommend checking them out because their theory is different than the classic view of the classpect and is pretty interesting. Very well made too! I think their aspects descriptions are better than the canon ones lmao.
@dahniwitchoflight - I used some of the elements of their theory too - most notably the bits about Maid and Sylph class. Good to check them out if you're interested!
The extended zodiac quiz - It has a lot of problems and I don't consider most of it canon, but the moons description and time's description are fine imo.
These sources are condtradictadory, yes, and while reading them you might notice that I didn't stick to some of the descriptions that much, but doing this little analysis I kept in mind that in the end the classpects are more about the vibe than anything else (but also not really, you see, it's complicated)
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classpecting-posts · 1 month ago
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can I here the "knight of Heart nepeta" conspiracy
A Knight is one who exploits their Classpect in service of others, usually to protect or defend. The Knights we've seen have had some semi-consistent defining characteristics.
They're:
Loyal and protective to a fault.
For Dave, that's seen over and over in how he's willing to risk everything for his friends. He behaves like a damn rescue dog. For Latula, that's represented by sticking with her partner even through his traumatic brain injury.
Struggle with their Aspect somewhat themselves, despite understanding it intuitively.
Dave's always on a time crunch and *has* to exploit it in order to buy some for himself and his friends-- we see this especially with Davesprite. They ran out of time to get Jade in the game, to protect John, etc.
Usually put on some sort of mask or facade in order to hide their insecurities.
Dave has the smooth operator coolguy presentation that he fights tooth-and-nail to keep up so people don't find out he's just a guy. Latula has the '90s sk8erg1rl personality that hides the fact that she's actually kinda fucking terrified all the time. We see how well this works with Terezi, since it sorta destroyed what was left of her self-esteem.
With the little characterization we see for Nepeta, she:
✅ Sees Equius dead on the ground and jumps Gamzee without a second thought. This ultimately leads to her death.
✅ Is really, really fucking lonely and craves connection. She also bases her concept of Self around relationships and matchmaking, precisely where she's lacking, so that's two for two. This becomes the insecurity that she hides with
✅ The cutesy catgirl personality.
There's also correlation with the fact that as an Oliveblood, her caste is suited and destined to become soldiers later in life.
Nepeta is a Knight of Heart, full send.
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goofybearclown · 5 months ago
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Second charcter for my Homestuck x Isat crossover :3
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We got our big boy Isa! :D
Our lovely fashionista in a godhood of the Knight of Heart :3
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cottonflurry · 1 year ago
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A panel commission for another client! With more to come...
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irradiatedpathogen · 4 months ago
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<《CAIN GALANT》>
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redesigned ma 8oy, FINALLY like his design
8ro really thinks hes happy and straight (HES NOT)
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lamontkh · 8 months ago
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Your beauty should not come from outward adornment, such as elaborate hairstyles and the wearing of gold jewelry or fine clothes.
4 Rather, it should be that of your inner self, the unfading beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is of great worth in God’s sight.
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monstasong · 11 months ago
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I took a lot of quizzes and what fit me the best was knight of heart :D
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carcingeneticist · 6 months ago
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guys angel with a shotgun Nightcore is such a knight of heart song do you see what I see??
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roxygenize · 1 month ago
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My attempt at classpecting the Activity Club
Isabel: Knight of Heart
“Then, a Knight of Heart is one who exploits the desires, inclinations and preferences of people. Also, they defend the uniqueness and personality of people. This players can be really dangerous if no one keeps an eye on them.
I say this because if they can exploit the feelings of someone, they can toy with them. They could do what Karkat did but with emotions, use the uniqueness of every teammate as a tool to success in their session. That is the best part of these knights, they can help the team to bring the best of it.
They could also be very emotional and aim for think about feelings a lot, but here comes the “armor” knights tend to use: They would try to look as cool people who think methodically and always do everything well, quite like Dirk (but Dirk was full of Mind because he destroys Heart).”
Isaac: Prince of Light
“a Prince of Light is one who destroys the fortune, illumination, attention, clarity and importance and destroys with light and information.
At the beginning of their quest, they may be very mysterious people. They would be very bad at focusing on something, but if they have an objective they could reach it with the information they possess. Sometimes would miss the point of a conversation, and they would not express their ideas with clarity… they destroy the fortune leaving only bad luck.
This is obviously because of the problem all Princes have: to control their destructive nature. They must receive help from someone who’s good at advices, like a Seer or a Heir. If things get too bad, they must need a Witch or a Mage to change them by force. Let the Blood and the Hope be inside of them too.”
Max: Page of Blood
“Page of Blood: One who Invites Exploitation of Blood or one who Invites Exploitation through Blood
Pages start with a deficit in their Aspect that they confidently overcome through obvious overcompensation. Their challenge is to keep at it, even if they fail and the journey is slow, for they become the strongest players.”
Ed: Seer of Mind
“So, a Seer of Mind is one who sees/knows the decisions, thoughts and judgement that a team should have or take; they also see or know through logic and rationalism. They also know the paths a decision will lead.
At the beginning of their adventure, this seer would never doubt of their actions, because they would be sure about everything, and would think that they always know or should know what to do. They would always have the most rational thoughts and judgement. They are the best tacticians of the game, because they can know what the enemy (or others) are thinking.
A team should always hear the judgement of a Seer, and a Seer of Mind as a knower of all the decisions/thoughts. can see the paths of actions that will lead to the most favorable outcome for everyone. That is the power we saw Terezi doing.
For other abilities, it seems they can see the memories of others (In Remem8er). Also, just knowing what others are thinking by scanning them (like in the game: The World Ends With You) would be part of their role.”
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luminous-homestuck-kins · 2 years ago
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heart godtier playlists
feel free to recommend songs to add if youd like
for the heart aspect or any other aspect
maid of heart
page of heart
mage of heart
knight of heart
rogue of heart
sylph of heart
seer of heart
thief of heart
heir of heart
bard of heart
prince of heart
witch of heart
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maidofhearteditz · 6 months ago
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can you do a knight of heart stim board with themes of tigers and wolves :33
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3833< Knight of heart stimboard with knight, pink, heart, tiger, and wolf stims 0u0!
(B33<Hell yeah, HEART HEROS 3B3!)
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calamitascalliope · 1 year ago
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I recently got a commission from @calware-png of my depiction of Kris in my Homestuck/Deltarune fic! Quirked up enby planning on stabbing you a little bit
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