#John lackland

[angevinyaoiz]

Made a comic of one of my favorite John and Richard play-only interactions from The Lion in Winter, using my outfit designs I drew earlier.

[illustratus]

King John reluctantly signing the Magna Carta by Arthur C. Michael

[devilsburger]

Leprosy hospital (inspired by the real one)

(Previous) (devilsburger comics)

[satansemployee]

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— callbacks in the lion in winter (1968)‎‎

A little project to tide me up while I wait to complete my binding of the movie screenplay. This is the second draft of the screenplay for the movie, so a couple quotes might not be found in the movie (like John's "mother me") but also might be missing. even though this draft has some amazing deleted lines.

the quotes are just in order of when I thought about them, since I was surprised by just how explicit some themes are. watching it with subtitles the amount of "dogs barking" around when Henry does anything is almost comical. But at the same time they're not simple callbacks, ya know? The motivs are just subtle enough to be motivs but you can still find them in writing. Anyway. James Goldman has now become my ridicolous writing standard to aspire to that I'll never achieve. gooood for me.

(edited on 29/06 and added another callback)

[tithe2hell]

Roman Roy (Succession 2018) & John I of England (The Devil's Crown 1978)

Talking about their dads, I guess

[best-nun-tournament]

Round 1, Match 20

King Richard and Prince John (Robin Hood/English history) vs Cleopatra VII and Ptolemy XIII (Egyptian history)

Propaganda and history lesson under break.

King Richard and Prince John

Richard goes off to fight in the Crusades and John plots behind his back to steal and exploit the kingdom!

Poll Runner's Note: That's the Robin Hood legend, and there is some truth to it: While Richard was off on the crusade, John locked up Richard's chancellor Bishop Longchamp, set up his own royal court, and declared himself Richard's heir, over Richard's choice of their nephew Arthur (age 4). He even tried to have Richard declared legally dead so he could claim the throne (he had in fact been taken captive by the Duke of Austria and was then held for ransom by the Holy Roman Emperor). John left his wife to marry the King of France's sister so he'd support his claim, and basically started a civil war which lasted until Richard finally returned home. And that meant paying 100,000 pounds of silver in ransom. Everyone had to pay 25% of their property, on top of additional taxes.

Richard "forgave" John, in that he didn't have him killed and just confiscated most of his land, but he still officially declared his "hate and malevolence" towards John for over a year.

After Richard died five years later, John introduced yet more taxes, including England's first income tax. Why? To pay for a war with France to get back all the land that was lost when John asked the King of France to help him defeat Richard's supporters. A problem he himself caused by fighting with his brother!

Cleopatra VII and Ptolemy XIII

You know

Poll Runner's Note: I sure do, and now I'm going to tell everyone about it! Ptolemy XII, their father, had five children: Berenice, Cleopatra, Arsinoë, Ptolemy XIII, and Ptolemy XIV. Berenice had usurped Ptolemy XII's rule and was executed when he regained power, making Cleopatra his eldest living child. In his will, he declared that when he died Cleopatra and Ptolemy XIII should get married and reign as co-rulers of Egypt.

Ptolemy XII died when Cleopatra was about 18 and Ptolemy XIII was 11, and right from the start she was not interested in this co-ruler business. She started leaving his name off documents, leaving his face off the coins, and generally acting like she's the only ruler in Egypt. Unfortunately for her, Ptolemy's guardians weren't keen on being demoted from "power behind the throne" to "glorified babysitter", and they deposed Cleopatra and forced her to flee to Syria, where she raised an army and started a war against her brother. It didn't go well for her, and things were looking bad for her until Julius Caesar showed up with his army.

Caesar was 1) Already mad at Ptolemy's advisors for killing Pompey who he'd wanted to spare and 2) famously a huge slut so Cleopatra was pretty easily able to convince him to restore her to power.

It's at this point Arsinoë shows up with her army. She joins forces with Ptolemy XIII, declares herself Queen Arsinoë IV, and beseiges Cleopatra and Caesar in the palace complex. For five brutal months, they battled through the city. The fires are said to be how the Library of Alexandria was lost, which is probably a legend but it was still devastating. Ceasar himself almost drowned while fleeing Arsinoë's forces at the Battle of Pharos Island.

Finally Caesar's allies show up with their armies, and Ptolemy drowned trying to flee across the Nile while Arsinoë was taken prisoner. She was brought back to Rome as part of Caesar's triumph, but her life was spared and she lived out the rest of her days at the Temple of Artemis in Ephesus. This was about five years because Cleopatra later persuaded Mark Antony to have her murdered right there in the temple.

Cleopatra married her youngest brother Ptolemy XIV, before finally poisoning him so she could make her son Caesarion the new Pharaoh.

Cleopatra was at least partially responsible for the deaths of all her siblings except the one her father killed, and the struggles between them were devastating for Egypt and caused a lot of suffering. These are some legitimately awful siblings.

[violetcancerian]

Some Lion in Winter screen caps for all of our sorrows

Wanted to go for more like... redhead/blond Plantagenets

[tyrellia]

king john is so funny

His dad didn’t give him any lands to inherit and then proceeded to called him Lackland as a joke (a nickname that stuck), and he sucked so much as king that no other english king was ever called john again. So he’s not john I, just john

truly one of the monarchs of all time

[rta-user-2025]

Villain!Varian AU as RHMIS Prince John

(Note: I thought of the idea for months now, making a simple what if au. So here's the curse idea, I had in mind. Which is, Varian during his villain arc being Prince John from RHMIS not Disney. Since RHMIS Prince John is intimidating and quite similar to Varian when Varian was in his villain arc except he didn't robbed people.)

Meme of this:

[histoireettralala]

Capétiens vs Plantagenêts: a matter of suzerainty.

It was also his position as suzerain which gave Louis VII the chance of interfering in and inflaming the quarrels which raged in the Angevin family. This was an effective means of weakening his great antagonist. Henry II and Eleanor produced a large family, and reared four of their sons to the age at which custom demanded that they should be provided for. Their eldest son Henry was granted Normandy in October 1160 and was associated with his father on the throne of England in 1170. Richard was given Aquitaine in 1169 and Geoffrey Brittany in 1175. John, the youngest child of Henry and Eleanor, was not old enough to be entrusted with any estates until the very last years of his father's reign, and by the time he came of age all the available lands had been given away. As Duke of Normandy, Duke of Aquitaine, Count of Poitiers, the sons of Henry II came to perform homage to the King of France and became his men. It was in vain that Henry II sought to utilise the Norman procedure of pariage to maintain the unity of his continental territories in favour of his eldest son, the "Young King" Henry. (Under pariage the eldest son succeeded to all the heritable property and was alone answerable for it to the suzerain; each of his brothers received a share, but held it of him). This device could not be put into full operation in Aquitaine, which was not part of Henry's heritage but Eleanor's. And when she granted it to Richard, he owed homage not to his father or his eldest brother, but to the King of France. The Young King Henry had done homage as Duke of Normandy to Louis VII in October 1160. When he repeated his homage in 1170 it was made to embrace Anjou, Maine, and Brittany as well. At the same time Richard did homage to Louis for Aquitaine.

It is true that in 1174 Henry II compelled his sons to perform homage to him after their rebellion, but this new homage did not necessarily annul their homages to the King of France. Henry II himself had done homage to Louis VII in 1151 and again in 1169, and was to perform it yet again to Louis's successor, Philip Augustus, in 1180. Thus throughout the conflict between Louis VII and Henry II the French king's suzerainty was affirmed and recognised. This did not save Louis from defeats at his vassal's hands. Nevertheless, to judge from the Toulouse affair in 1159, Louis' suzerainty occasionally cramped Henry's style, and put him in the wrong in the eyes of contemporaries, including the barons of his continental fiefs. To play the rebel vassal was hardly prudent for a king when many of his own vassals were rebelliously inclined. It was not that the idea of rebellion itself shocked feudal society. On the contrary, it was one of the legitimate courses open to a vassal needing to safeguard his rights against the encroachments of his suzerain. But in the disputes between Louis VII and Henry II, Henry was the law-breaker as well as the vassal in revolt. For his rebelliousness against an impeccable suzerain there could be no justification.

It may be objected that Louis VII was constantly intriguing with Eleanor of Aquitaine and with Henry II's sons. But after all Eleanor, as Duchess of Aquitaine, was herself a royal vassal. Two of Henry's sons had done homage to Louis. Another, Geoffrey, by dint of his father's vassalage, was the French king's rear-vassal. And the king had, as suzerain, not merely the right but the duty to concern himself with the welfare and harmony of his great vassal's family, to ensure that a proper settlement was made on the sons. It would be unfair to accuse Louis of hypocrisy; nor did Henry ever complain that the French king was making trouble in his family. Louis' own grievances against Henry were many and varied, and Henry never made a serious effort to deny their validity.

Thus from 1154 to 1180 Henry II had the appearance of a vassal engaged in unjustifiable revolt against his suzerain. This line of conduct undermined his own position. It constantly reminded the baronage of the Angevin fiefs that the King of France was Henry's suzerain- if only because his suzerainty was so often invoked. And it helped to prevent the fusion of the individual elements of the Angevin empire on the continent. Provincial separation, already too strong for Angevin rule to subdue, was reinforced.

Robert Fawtier- The Capetian Kings of France

[snevans-is-my-life-source-always]

So I was watching a little bit of Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves because I was sleeping over at my bestie's house and when I arrived, it was on TV. I mostly did two things:

1. yell at the TV and my mom and bestie's mom because I hate Richard I of England even more than I hate John Lackland and I was arguing that Richard I was a terrible ruler and the only reason why England was stable was that John Lackland overthrew the regent Richard I had placed in charge. Also Richard I didn't give two shits for England (he actually once said that he would have sold England to someone, but he couldn't find anyone with sufficient funds).

2. fawning over how attractive Alan Rickman is in this goddamn movie. I mean, just look at him!

(By the way, if you care more about me than Richard I cared for England, to why I disappeared, keep reading)

School and schoolwork and homework and the stress that revolves around all of that

(this one is probably the most important) My grandmother died about two months ago (6 December 2022) and I've been deeply affected by her loss

I'm in 10000000 extracirriculars

I've been forgetting to post shitposts

I've been forgetting to get on this app

I've been focusing on writing and trying to complete a writing project I started two years ago

I'm just busy

So yeah. I'm probably going to disappear again.

[angevinyaoiz]

When i first watched the movie I didn’t know all the ins and outs Angevin drama that I do now, but I immediately thought of Richard like “I can see why he was so quick to go on crusade lmfao, it’s like those kids who go crazy on their gap year once they finally leave the house” (the reality is funnier though but in the universe of the movie it just Makes Sense)

More Lion in Winter memes and doodles, since people really seemed to like the last batch

[falseandrealultravival]

Japan is not even an imitation (verse)

John Lackland

Japan is a parliamentary democracy following the example of England,

but it is not even an imitation.

England realized democracy

as early as 1215. (Magna Carta)

This was because the lords pressured the foolish king "John Lackland"

to acknowledge their authority,

which meant restricting the king's authority.

The lords gained the right to act without compromise.

In the case of Japan, we have produced

many foolish prime ministers (effective kings),

but the Japanese people do not take action

to expel such people.

This is an abandonment of the people's authority.

(In other words, many people do not vote.)

I think we can get rid of fools

without resorting to force --

We just need to force

the people who do not vote to vote.

Democracy is only when you fight and win.

Japan, how long will you remain an imitation?

(2021.10.10)

イミテーションにもなれない日本（韻文）

日本はイギリスに倣い、議会制民主主義だが イミテーションにもなっていない。 イギリスは１２１５年という早い時期に 民主主義を実現した。（マグナ・カルタ）

それはバカな国王「ジョン・欠地王」に 諸侯が迫り、諸侯の権限を認めさせ、 つまりは、国王の権限に制限を加えたのだ。 諸侯たちは、妥協なき行動の未、権利を得た。

日本の場合、バカな総理大臣（実質的な国王）を 沢山輩出しているのに 日本国民がそんな輩を 追放するような行動を起こさない。

これは国民の権限の放棄だ。 （つまりは投票��行かない国民が多いこと。） 私は思う、武力に訴えずとも バカを辞めさせることが出来るのに――

投票に行かない国民を、 強制的に行かせれば良いのだ。 戦って、勝ち取ってこその民主主義だ。 日本よ、いつまでイミテーションでいるのか？

[nothing-new-under-the-sun124]

Richard being imprisoned by the HRE while john and Philip try seize his lands

Richard Lionheart: this really isn’t fair🎵

John & Philip: we really couldn’t care 🎶

[nostalgia-tblr]

The only Asgard-adjacent Christmas fic I want to read is a 'Lion in Winter' AU where the Odinson family bitch at each other for several thousand words about who's getting dad's stuff when he dies.

[thenewleeland]

Why do you teach at university?

Me: