#John Earl of Shrewsbury

[stonelord1]

An Abbey in Dublin Unearthed

Excavations in Dublin city centre have uncovered the remains of what was once one of Ireland’s most important medieval monasteries. St Mary’s was a House of Benedictines, followed by Savignac monks and then Cistercians, and it was exceedingly wealthy, with the added bonus of being permitted to claim goods from shipwrecks. At times, it was quite a troubled place–the mayor of Dublin, Robert de…

[unanchored-ship]

the talbot family..

[illustratus]

The Battle of Castillon, 17 July, 1453 by Charles-Philippe Larivière

Depicting the death of John Talbot, Earl of Shrewsbury falling from his wounded horse.

[famousdeaths]

John Talbot, 1st Earl of Shrewsbury, 1st Earl of Waterford, 7th Baron Talbot, KG, known as "Old Talbot", was an English nobleman and a noted military commander...

Link: John Talbot, 1st Earl of Shrewsbury

[coquette2004]

Wait - Hither is more!

Monmouth: Teenage Dirtbag (like father like son.)

Rochester: Chaotic Academia/ Teenage Dirtbag/Rockstar

Bentinck: GrandparentCore

Keppel: Grunge/Emo

William II of Orange: Luxury

Mary of Orange: Luxury

De Witt: Dark Academia ( he was a uni student guys. Like me. And he was into maths - could not be me!)

John: Old Money (you can't tell me he doesn't fit the vibesss.)

Anne Hyde: I was gonna say Uptown Girl but why do I also feel she'd enjoy the Rockstar GF aesthetic?

I feel like Rockstar GF would fit her personality so well.

Shrewsbury: Dreamcore

Giving the gang aesthetics because I don't know what else to post:

(AKA Me acting like I know personally historical dead folk for one minute straight 😂😭)

Charles: Teenage Dirtbag - makes sense to me it's his personality.

James: Catholic Core (it's actually an aesthetic if it doesn't seem like it)

Maria: Coquette

William: Deffo Goth Academia

Mary: Either Fairycore/Cottagecore/Shabby Chic

Anne: Hmm, this is hard. I think she could be Dethereal as she was mega exhausted from everything in the run up to her death. Or Cottagecore - she liked a quiet life with George (I HAVE NO IDEA HELP)

George: Downtown (a more chilled aesthetic since he wasn't for a big fuss)

Sarah: Y2K/McBling which makes sense as she was the Queen Bee of Anne's court

I honestly have no clue so give me ideas haha :⁠-⁠).

[lionofchaeronea]

Battle of Castillon, July 17, 1453, Charles-Philippe Larivière, 1839

At the Battle of Castillon, the last major clash of the Hundred Years War, English forces under John Talbot, Earl of Shrewsbury, were cut to pieces by massed French artillery. Talbot and his son were both slain. This painting depicts the moment of Talbot's death (inaccurately--in fact he was unarmored, due to a vow he had taken several years before).

[wonder-worker]

Hello, can you explain who sided with who from the peerage during Henry VI Readeption? Which side had more support?

Hi! I'm just going to post an excerpt from False, Fleeting, Perjur'd Clarence: George, Duke of Clarence, 1449-7 by Michael Hicks, which sums up the situation:

“The Readeption had enjoyed the military support of the Dukes of Somerset and Exeter, the Marquis Montagu, the Earls of Devon, Dorset, Pembroke, Oxford and Warwick, Viscount Beaumont, and Lords St. John, Wenlock and Camoys. Of those who had helped restore Henry VI, Clarence, Shrewsbury, Stanley, FitzHugh and Scrope had withdrawn their support; no former Lancastrians [ie: the ones who had made peace with Yorkist England in the 1460s] had returned to the fold and nobody had defected from Edward IV. On Edward’s return to London, he was accompanied by five dukes, six earls and thirteen barons, most of whom had probably fought at Tewkesbury. Lords Say and Cromwell had been killed at Barnet and other peers participated in the Kentish campaign against Thomas Neville, Bastard of Fauconberg. From this it is clear that almost the whole peerage, certainly all the greater magnates, were actively involved in the 1471 campaign. Edward’s army had a strong family tinge, as it included both his brothers, his brother-in-law Suffolk, Earl Rivers and the husbands of five of the Wydeville sisters. It was not merely a faction: there were others without court connections, such as Norfolk and Cobham. Clearly Edward enjoyed the general support of the peerage […]’

(If there's anything this hasn't touched upon, or if it's gotten anything mixed up, please feel free to add on or/and correct it!)

[coquette2004]

Hi!! Thank you for the tag, beloved Sheep!

Now, for my hear me out cake, one person on it would DEFINITELY be Mary Queen of Scots! She and Queen Victoria were the first two historical figures I was drawn to so a hear me out cake wouldn't be the same without them.

I'm also putting our beloved Charles II, Catherine of Braganza and Nell Gwynne in the cake as well. Why not? I love them so much.

And Rochester and Monmouth as well. Now just crazy Stuart men.

You all obviously know a hear me out cake wouldn't be a hear me out cake without my dear (controversial) James II. The man is now fully integrated into my brain and my soul, haha.

Stupid man with his stupid face and stupid wig and unhinged sexual energy. Alongside those damn legs.

They're beautiful. He's beautiful.

I can't live without him.

Then his wives, Anne Hyde and darling Maria. And Louisa Maria.

I love them.

And then umm, Mary II and William III (Sheep won't want me to steal William but I will anyways) and Anne and George.

Alongside Shrewsbury!

So there you have it. A very crowded hear me out cake.

Tagging @acrossthewavesoftime, @vintagedolce @culpepers-wife and @lavenderrosiefan.

And anyone else who wants to join. :⁠-⁠)

Calling history nerds 🚨🚨🚨

Which historical figure(s) would you put on your hear me put cake?

I would put Thaddeus Kosciuszko and Ulysses S Grant on ofc :) (They can also be someone just for goofiness)

hear me out cake example:

Tag people!!! @allysah @tommy-288 @tompoose @maip--macrothorax @rosemeriwether @pranklinfierce @chaotic-history and everyone else :)

[queenmarytudor]

Mary I's Fight For The Throne

15th July - Mary wins a fleet

At daybreak, Henry Jerningham, John Tyrrell and Edward Glemham go to inspect the ships in the haven. The crew ask Jerningham "what he would have, and whether he would have their captains or no; and he said yeah, mary. Said they " Ye shall have them, or else we shall throw them to the bottom of the sea." The captains, seeing this perplexity, said forthwith they would serve queen Mary gladly." 1

Jerningham takes Richard Brooke, the squadron's commander, back to Framlingham castle, where they "bring news of this happy and unexpected arrival to the queen." 2 The last ship, The Greyhound, still remains in Lowestoft, but for now they focus on bringing the artillery and weapons from the rest to Framlingham.

Tyrrell and Glemham also reveal to Mary that Lord Wentworth has submitted, telling the pair that "although he had pledged his fealty to Jane by the obligation of his oath, his inner conscience constantly proclaimed that Mary had a greater right to the throne, so that he would pay no more heed to that obligation but set it aside and join his true sovereign with all speed." 3

Approximately on this day, in response to the Duke of Northumberland's letter ordering them to proclaim Jane, the mayor of Coventry, "being ruled by Mr Edward Sanders, the recorder, would not do it." 4 A fervent Catholic, Sanders "speedily proclaimed queen Mary."5 The city hold a "great store of armour; and there was a cry that the city was firing in four places, which caused the common bell to be rung, the gates shut, and the walls manned, but there was no hurt." 6

Meanwhile...

The Duke of Northumberland enters Cambridge. 7

Lord Edward Clinton joins Northumberland with more supplies and weaponry. 8

Francis Jobson raises 500 rebels at Ware to join Northumberland at Cambridge. 9

Northumberland's son and heir, the Earl of Warwick, and George Howard, brother of Mary's step mother Katherine, burn Sawston Hall down in revenge for housing Mary. 10

In Buckinghamshire, Edward Hastings and Sir Edmund Peckham lead a force of men intending to march towards the Palace of Westminster "where their purpose is to apprehend Mr [Francis] Jobson and to take the armour and munitions that they shall there find, for the better furnishing of themselves in the defence of the Queen’s majesty’s person and her title." 11

A printed epistle dedicated to Gilbert Potter, the man who had his ears chopped off for proclaiming Mary, is distributed amongst London . "Whereas thou hast of late showed thy self to be a true subject to Mary, queen of England, not only by words but by deeds, and for the farther trial of thy true heart towards her, did offer thy body to be slain in her quarrel, and offered up thy self into the hands of the ragged bear most rank, with whom is nether mercy, pity, nor compassion, but his indignation present death. Thy promise (Gilbard) is faithful, thy heart is true, thy love is fervent towards her grace ; and, whereas you did promise me faithfully (when I last visited thee in prison) to be torn with wild horses, thou would not deny Marye our queen […] For, as it shall be to the great honour and praise in this world, and in heaven, to die in her grace's quarrel, and in the defence of thy country ; so would it be to the utter destruction both of thy body and soul to do the contrary […] I hear say that the true subject, Sir Edmund Peckham, is gone, with all his power and treasure, to assist her grace […] I hear also, that there is come more to help her grace, the earl of Darbey, the earl of Oxford, the earl of Bath, and divers other nobles […] The good earl of Arundel and the earl of Shrewsbury be here still; but, as I am informed, the earl of Arundel will not consent to none of their doing […] The author reveals he has also sent two "into the ragged bears camp. Keep that close which thou hast; the world is dangerous. The great devil, Dudley, ruleth; (duke, I should have said) : well, let that pass, seeing it is out, but I trust he shall not long. 12

The Imperial ambassadors are "being watched so closely to see whether we do what the Council prohibited that we are unable to negotiate as freely as we could wish or attempt certain useful expedient." 13

Members of the Privy Council visit the Imperial ambassadors again, to ask them to decide whether they want to stay or not "for if we did wish to remain our persons should be secure and my Lords would do their best for us. If we wished to depart they would give us an escort to conduct us safely out of the kingdom." 14 They decide to leave town on the 20th, slowly making their way to Dover hoping to hear of news regarding Mary and Northumberland.

Sources:

1. Chronicle of Queen Jane and Queen Mary

2. Vita Mariae Angliae Reginae of Robert Wingfield

3. Vita Mariae Angliae Reginae of Robert Wingfield

4. Chronicle of Queen Jane and Queen Mary

5. Chronicle of Queen Jane and Queen Mary

6. Chronicle of Queen Jane and Queen Mary

7. Vita Mariae Angliae Reginae of Robert Wingfield

8. Vita Mariae Angliae Reginae of Robert Wingfield

9. Calendar of the Patent Rolls, Philip and Mary Vol 1. 1553 - 1554

10. Spanish State Papers, 20th July 1553

11. Acts of the Privy Council, Volume 4

12. Chronicle of Queen Jane and Queen Mary

13. Spanish State Papers, 16th July 1553

14. Spanish State Papers, 16th July 1553

[kwebtv]

The First Churchills - BBC Two - Septembr 27, 1969 - December 13, 1969

Period Drama (12 Episodes)

Running Time: 60 minutes

Stars:

Susan Hampshire as Sarah Jennings Churchill, Duchess of Marlborough

John Neville as John Churchill, 1st Duke of Marlborough

James Villiers as King Charles II

John Westbrook as King James II

Sheila Gish as Queen Mary, wife to James II

Alan Rowe as King William III

Lisa Daniely as Queen Mary II

Margaret Tyzack as Queen Anne

Roger Mutton as Prince George of Denmark

Robert Robinson as King Louis XIV

John Standing as Sidney Godolphin

Frederick Peisley as Lord Shaftesbury

Job Stewart as Lord Shrewsbury

James Kerry as James, Duke of Monmouth

Richard Pearson as Robert Harley

Moira Redmond as Barbara, Duchess of Cleveland

Richard Warwick as Francis Godolphin

Polly Adams as Henrietta Churchill

Graham Armitage as John Wilmot, Earl of Rochester

Colin Bean as Lord Russell

Consuela Chapman as Duchess of Portsmouth

Michael Culver as Charles Churchill

Andria Lawrence as Nell Gwyn

Michael Lynch as D'Artagnan:

Kay Patrick as Henrietta Wentworth

Arthur Pentelow as Marquess of Carmarthen

Bruce Purchase as Duke of Buckingham

John Ringham as Laurence Hyde, 1st Earl of Rochester

Nicholas Smith as Titus Oates

Michael Attwell as Henry St John

Jill Balcon as Abigail Masham

Freddie Wilson as James Stuart, the Old Pretender

Yvonne Antrobus as Anne Churchill

Robert Mill as Charles Spencer, 3rd Earl of Sunderland

William Job as Adam de Cardonnel

Bernard Taylor as William Cadogan

Francis Wallis as John Churchill, Marquess of Blandford

The First Churchills was the first series telecast by PBS under the title of Masterpiece Theatre from January 10, 1971 - March 28, 1971

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hopping on the whatsapp train

[mea-gloria-fides]

A Talbot Hound depicted behind John Talbot, 1st Earl of Shrewsbury, presenting a book to Margaret of Anjou, Queen of England. 1445.

[edwardslovelyelizabeth]

Is there any clear evidence to prove that Edward IV had contact with his so-called "wife" Eleanor?

Hi! I'm not sure what you mean by clear evidence. Eleanor was Warwick's nice (her mother was Warwick's sister), her family was distinguished nobles with royal connections. Her father John Talbot, 1st Earl of Shrewsbury presented Margaret of Anjou with collection of romances as a wedding gift. It's fair to assume Edward would know her family as they were all in the same circle and would meet Eleanor socially though there is no record (in contemporary or near contemporary chronicles) of him actually meeting her. Ashdown-Hill I think wrote a book or even several books about her trying to prove the pre-contract theory though all his "evidence" was based on Edward's records of being in the area near her estates at various times in the early 60s. Point being nobody before Titulus Regius ever mentioned Edward and Elenor in connection to each other - no chronicles, Paston letters or any other source.

I will refer you to this brilliant post on pre-contract theory and evidence, I wouldnt say it so eloquently as the OP: https://www.tumblr.com/richmond-rex/712215715430744064/hi-ive-only-recently-gotten-interested-in-the?source=share

[unanchored-ship]

Charles would find us mildly strange but otherwise I think we'd get along lol. he's just a chill fella.

James would implode two seconds in. maybe. or he'd enjoy it

Rochester would love us,, just saying...

Only here to make William's asthma worse 👍👍

Mary would act mortified but deep down inside she knows she'd own a tumblr blog just as insane as ours

Anne and George would probably have the same reaction as Charles im ngl. We're kind of like Restoration England but a little bit wilder. Just a bit 🤏(lying)

The Marlboroughs? I feel like John would be horrified and offended and Sarah would call us freaks but we all know she's just as 𝓯𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓴𝔂.. you know maybe she won't deny the allegations maybe she will join our nation.

i missed a lot of people.. but im don't want to make such a long list rightnoww

Mutuals I'm just wondering how all our fave histfigs would react to our blogs and what they would think of us all.

[une-sanz-pluis]

The evidence seems to indicate that by 1456 Margaret was working towards the creation of a household faction focused especially on the household and council of the prince of Wales. The withdrawal of the court from Westminster to Kenilworth castle, the heart of Margaret’s west Midlands dower estates, in the summer of 1456, symbolised the shift in the focus of power. This was also reflected in the change of government personnel in October 1456, when the queen’s chancellor, Laurence Booth, was appointed keeper of the privy seal and John Talbot, earl of Shrewsbury, treasurer. Historians have interpreted these actions as a deliberate attempt to create a coherent Lancastrian affinity as an effective power base which might be drawn upon not just for political support but also as a military resource. The value of the duchy of Lancaster as a source of manpower for military retinues had been recognised by John of Gaunt in the 1380s and 1390s, and recent studies have emphasised the crucial role played by leading officials of the duchy in the organisation and financing of Gaunt’s military expeditions. Under both Henry IV and Henry V the Lancastrian affinity retained both its administrative and military functions, now harnessed to royal authority. But the long minority of Henry VI, the survival of Henry V’s widow until 1437 and the provision made under Henry V’s will to pay off massive debts by granting away duchy lands to feoffees diminished the potential value of the duchy to the crown.

Diana Dunn, "The Queen at War: The Role of Margaret of Anjou in the Wars of the Roses" in War and Society in Medieval and Early Modern Britain (ed. Diana Dunn, University of Liverpool Press, 2000)

[intriguingpeoplebyangelafloyd]

PERKIN WARBECK

PERKIN WARBECK

c. 1474-1499

Pretended to be Richard ‘Princes in the Tower’ and was executed

            Whilst Henry VII was King of England, a young man appeared and claimed to be Richard of Shrewsbury, Duke of York, the youngest of the two ‘Princes in the Tower’ - the son of King Edward VI. In 1490, he claimed that his brother Edward V had been murdered but he had been spared due to his age.

            The Princes in the Tower were King Edward VI’s sons Edward and Richard, and if they had been still alive they would have had the right to the throne. After the death of King Edward VI, his son Edward was to be king - however, Richard III snatched the throne away and placed the Princes in the Tower of London. The Princes disappeared and had both been presumably murdered under the orders of Richard III.

            Warbeck won the support of Edward IV’s sister Margaret of Burgundy, who was a Yorkist and didn’t want Henry VII on the throne. She knew very little of her nephews and didn’t know what they looked like. Warbeck attempted invasions of Ireland (1491) and England (1495), and persuaded James IV of Scotland to invade England in 1496 and married Lady Catherine Gordon whilst in Edinburgh. Pro-Yorkist sympathy helped those to back Warbeck. Later James IV grew tired of Warbeck and wanted to be rid of him, and refused to give him a ship and crew.

            In 1497, Warbeck landed in Cromwell with a few thousand troops, but was then captured and imprisoned in the Tower of London. The ringleaders were executed and those supporting Warbeck were fined. Henry VII declared Warbeck an imposter. 

            Warbeck confessed that he was born in Tournai, Belgium in 1474. He was taken to Antwerp by his mother when he was 10 and learned Dutch and worked for a local English merchant John Strewe. He wanted to travel to other countries and was employed by a Breton merchant who took him to Cork, Ireland in 1491 and when he was aged 17 he learned how to speak English. The citizens in Cork wanted revenge on Henry VII, so the Yorkist supporter, John Atwater (a former Mayor) helped him portray Richard.

            Henry VII believed that Warbeck was being used as a puppet for the Yorkist cause and treated Warbeck well, he had Warbeck released from the Tower of London and was permitted to stay at the royal court. After spending 8 months in the English court he attempted to escape with Edward, 17th Earl of Warwick (the son of George Duke of Clarence) in 1499, he was caught and sent back to the Tower of London. Warbeck read out a confession and was hanged and buried in Austin Friars, London.

            There was another pretender called Lambert Simnel who claimed to be Edward V, he was also used as a figurehead for a rebellion against Henry VII in 1487. His life was spared due to his youth and gained work at the royal court.

#perkinwarbeck #princesinthetower