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Tolerance Project extra I’ll be back and he certainly was The Tolerance Project and The Terminator Franchise

Part One Terminator the first 3 films in the Series Terminator Terminator 2Judgement Day and Terminator 3 Rise Against The Machines

Introduction

Hello there and Welcome to a revised edition of a blog that looks at the Terminator film Franchise including the making of the original Terminator film from 1984 and the 2 sequels that followed it Terminator 2 Judgement Day and Terminator 3 Rise of the Machines for ease of reading the blog has been split in two chapters the second chapter deals with the other 3 films in the series Terminator Salvation Terminator Genysis and Terminator Dark fate as well as what links the film to the Toleramce Project

Today the 26th October marks the Terminator 40th Birthday of its original release at the cinema

Overview

The Terminator is a 1984 American science fiction action film directed by James It stars Arnold Schwarzenegger as the Terminator, a cyborg assassin sent back in time from 2029 to 1984 to kill Sarah Connor (Linda Hamilton), whose unborn son will one day save mankind from extinction by Skynet, a hostile artificial intelligence in a post-apocalyptic future. Kyle Reese (Michael Biehn) is a soldier sent back in time to protect Sarah. The screenplay is credited to Cameron and producer Gale Anne Hurd.

Defying low pre-release expectations, The Terminator topped the United States box office for two weeks, eventually grossing $78.3 million against a modest $6.4 million budget. It is credited with launching Cameron's film career and solidifying Schwarzenegger's status as a leading man. The film's success led to a franchise consisting of several sequels, a television series, comic books, novels and video games. In 2008, The Terminator was selected by the Library of Congress for preservation in the United States National Film Registry.  

Casting The Terminator

It's hard to believe, but it's been roughly forty years since James Cameron changed movies forever with the release of The Terminator in 1984. At just 30 years old, this was Cameron's breakthrough, with his only other feature film being the low-budget Piranha II: The Spawning in 1981. His story about a cyborg sent from the future to kill the mother of a future resistance leader against robots who have taken over the Earth set Cameron on a path to becoming one of the most influential filmmakers ever. Before any of that could happen, however, Cameron needed to find the perfect face for his robotic monster. As we all know, the role went to Arnold Schwarzenegger, sending his career into the stratosphere, but before it did, there was talk of another famous name playing the part. Then one conversation with James Cameron changed everything, shaping history into the form we now know it.

Arnold Schwarzenegger Says O.J. Simpson Was the First Choice

In 1984, James Cameron might not have been famous yet, but Arnold Schwarzenegger was. He was the larger-than-life Austrian bodybuilder who had won seven Mr. Olympias and four Mr. Universe bodybuilding titles before transitioning to acting with roles in films such as Conan the Barbarian in 1982. Two years later, the same year a Conan the Barbarian sequel, Conan the Destroyer, was released, Arnold met with the unproven Cameron about his next project, a film with a much bigger scope than killer fish.

Cameron Says Simpson Was Never Considered To For ‘The Terminator’

In a 2023 interview with the eponymous host of Max’s talk show Who’s Talking to Chris Wallace, James Cameron set the record straight about a persistent rumor over the decades about fallen NFL star running back O.J. Simpson being considered to play the Terminator.

During the interview with Cameron, Wallace asked the writer-director to explain how the supposed consideration of Simpson for the role began.

“Very early on, a highly placed person at one of the two studios that funded that film had a brilliant idea and called me up and said, ‘Are you sitting down?’ I said, ‘Well, no, I’m not.’ He said, ‘Are you sitting? O.J. Simpson for the Terminator!’ I said, ‘I actually think that’s a bad idea.’ It didn’t go anywhere,” Cameron told Wallace (via Variety).

In a 2022 interview with Graham Bensinger, Schwarzenegger went into great detail about what those early interactions with James Cameron were like. Arnold said that when he got involved with the film, O.J. Simpson, then a beloved retired NFL running back who had transitioned to acting, was supposed to be the Terminator, with Schwarzenegger playing Kyle Reese, the good guy role who protects Sarah Connor (Linda Hamilton) and fights against the Terminator. The role would eventually go to Michael Biehn. Arnold was told that he'd be meeting Cameron for lunch, because Cameron had to sign off on him playing Reese.

Arnold Schwarzenegger Convinced James Cameron To Give Him the Terminator Role Instead

At the lunch, Schwarzenegger told Cameron his thoughts about the film and focused on the Terminator, who he wasn't cast to play. He brought up Yul Brenner's killer robotic performance from Westworld, saying "Everything was kind of off because he was not like a human being, there was something wrong here, but you couldn't identify exactly what it was." Arnold was fascinated by Brenner's mechanical movements and told Cameron that whoever played Terminator had to be trained to act like a machine. "He cannot go and look down and have the magazine be put into the gun... This has to be done like a machine, therefore he has to be trained blindfolded."

Schwarzenegger said Cameron was impressed by his opinion and completely agreed. So, right then and there, he told Arnold, "There's no one who will understand the Terminator better than you, so therefore, I think we're all in agreement that you should play the Terminator." To this, Arnold said no. He saw playing the Terminator, who barely had any lines, as a regression in his acting career. He wanted to be Reese, who had all the lines and was more of a challenge. Cameron would not be dissuaded so easily. He told Arnold, "Trust me, I will shoot the character so that you're not only the number one villain they've ever seen, but the number one hero." Cameron told Schwarzenegger to go home and think about it for a few days. He did just that, going back and forth between visualizing himself as the hero and the villain. "Eventually one day I woke up and said to myself, you know, he's right. It would be the most memorable character if it's played right

The Terminator director James Cameron says Arnold Schwarzenegger wasn’t exactly who he had in mind to play the now iconic movie character.

The sci-fi movie classic will celebrate the 40th anniversary of its domestic release on October 26. In the film, Schwarzenegger stars as the title character—aka the T-800���a cyborg from the future who travels back in time to assassinate Sarah Connor (Linda Hamilton), the mother of a future leader of a war against AI machines who have become self-aware.

In a recent interview with Empire Magazine, Cameron admitted that while Schwarzenegger isn’t the person he envisioned for the now-legendary role, he’s the reason for the longevity of the Terminator franchise.

.Further Watching

To watch a video called WTF Happened to The Terminator from from the JO Blos orignal you tube page Click here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1QwVogN-yA&t=46s

To watch a a retrospective review of the original Terminator film from the Oliver Harper You Tube page click here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRYFDGDBdG8&list=PL17vqAEJv6CV1syq4_fFKgBwSqGdJzH9z&index=301&t=16s

Ten things you didn't know about the Terminator Video Series from Minty Comedic arts

The Original Terminator film click here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-tprB2tQ4Q&t=117s 

Further Listening

This excellent Radio 4 Documentary where presenter explores the creation and enduring vision of the Terminator enduring A.I prophecy https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001xm5f 

Further Reading

This article by the slash film website gives a good history of the original film but also explains why Orion Pictures backed the film in the first place with only one condition to read it click here https://www.slashfilm.com/1515271/orion-pictures-agreed-finance-the-terminator-one-condition/

Me and The Terminator Franchise

There have been 6 films in The Terminator franchise I must admit I have not seen them all so I won’t comment on those but I think the first 2 films in the series are the best ones in the franchise as a whole.

 I would have stopped the series after Terminator 3 Rise of the Machines after all it would have made a nice little trilogy. I actually saw the 2nd Terminator film Judgement day first.

 

I only saw that because I was intriged by a spoof pop single in the British charts by Arnie and the Terminators which you can listen to by clicking here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JewSFEb4D6Y 

Quite a lot of people seem to agree with me that perharps the Terminator Franchise should have stopped after Terminator 2 Judgement day in 1991 the film even had a different ending shot for it that would have stopped the franchise after 2 films as detailed here

The epic saga of the "Terminator" films nearly had a far more conclusive ending in its second installment. James Cameron initially planned for a future-set epilogue in which an older Sarah Connor watches her son John, now a senator, playing with his daughter in a peaceful, Skynet-free world.

This would have sealed the fate of our beloved characters, leaving no room for a sequel, let alone the multiple that followed. As apocalyptic as the "Terminator" franchise tends to be, it's amusing to imagine it wrapping up with a peaceful picnic scene.

Screenrant again published an article on their website called 10 Movies that should have ended the Franchise and Terminator 2 Judgement Day was on their list at number at number 7 this is what they had to say.

There are several reasons why Terminator 2: Judgment Day still holds up today. Apart from the impressive effects and performance that brought the T-1000 to life, Terminator 2 compellingly raised the stakes and further explored the plot's ethical implications. It also pulled off the impossible by turning the first movie's villain, the T-800, into a hero and father figure to John Connor. With Skynet's defeat, Sarah and John finally had a reason to be optimistic in the ending, which brings the story to a full circle. The disappointing events of Terminator 3 and the succeeding reboot sequels only strengthen Judgment Day's place among movies that should have ended the franchise. 

Reading those comments myself its very hard to disagree with them also this article from the CBR.com website explains why the Terminator film series should have perharps stopped at Terminator 2 Judgement Day https://www.cbr.com/t2-perfect-end-terminator-series/

Also the yard Barker website included it in a list of films in article called Sequels that could have worked as standalone films this is what they had to say:

James Cameron’s original Terminator is a hallmark of sci-fi and action cinema, and, if anything, its sequel is even better. In this case, the story focuses on Sarah Connor, her son John, and their unlikely ally, the T-800. The entire cast is at the top of their game, though, of course, Arnold Schwarzenegger is a highlight as the Terminator. Throughout the film, Cameron showcases his skills as a director, and it’s a film that only grows in importance and relevance as AI becomes a more pronounced and undeniable part of everyone’s daily life, for better and for worse.

James Cameron himself explained why he felt Terminator 2 Judgement day was the best of the Terminator films he directored

During a recent interview with Empire Magazine (via Screen Rant), James Cameron, the visionary director behind the iconic Terminator franchise, offered insights into the evolution of the series and his personal growth as a filmmaker.

Cameron explains, "I look at each of those films as a slice of the cultural media zeitgeist of its time. The Terminator wasn't the first action film of the '80s. It was one of a group of action films, most of which came later. Army of one, giant body count, it was part of a zeitgeist. Terminator 2, there was a shifting consciousness. It was also just a better-made film. Physically better made, better realized. I look at them as moments in a career for me as a storyteller, that have specific meaning to me as well. Could I, with where I am now as a person, after all these school shootings, write The Terminator right now and get excited about it and want to go make it? No. I'm a different person, and that's fine too. That's the way it should be. We should evolve as artists. We should evolve as a society."

Further Watching 

To watch a retrospective review of Terminator 2 Judgement Day from the Oliver Harper Youtube page click here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VB6Ydsahf08&list=PL17vqAEJv6CV1syq4_fFKgBwSqGdJzH9z&index=298&t=25s

Ten things you didn't know about the Terminator Video Series from Minty Comedic arts

Terminator 2 Judgement Day Click Here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNaEUzo5DFw&t=88s

Terminator 3 Rise of The Machines click here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_klwA4A0O0&t=44s

To watch a retrospective review of Terminator 3 Rise of the Machines click here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8DLnrkBDZE&list=PL17vqAEJv6CV1syq4_fFKgBwSqGdJzH9z&index=297&t=2s

Futher Reading

This article from the CBR website also lists 10 reasons why Terminator 2 Judgement Day is the best film of the Franchise https://www.cbr.com/terminator-2-best-movie-franchise/

Notes

Thank you to Minty Comedic arts youtube channel for his 10 things you didn’t know about Terminator for the first 3 films in the Terminator series. Also Thank you Oliver Harper youtube Channel for his retrospective review series again on the first 3 Terminator films and also his review Dark Fate. and lastly thank you to Jo blo orignals for his wtf happened to the Terminator and other Terminator related videos T Thank you as well for Wikipedia for the background in the original Terminator film from 1984 and google images for all the pictures thanks to the following websites for the articles on the Terminator series Collider Screenrant CBR and Yard Barker

Pictures

Posters for the first 3 Terminator films and O. J Simpson

Next Week

This second part of this blog looking at the Terminator Franchise will be back in 3 weeks time see what I did there Ha Ha Part 2 of this will be looking at the other 3 films in the series and what links to the Tolerance project Next week we will be publishing the first part of a 2 part blog looking at the Halloween series of films

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Based on the global phenomenon, #TheLastAirBender starts streaming on #Netflix on February 22nd! Today on #JoBloCelebrityInterviews our very own Steve Seigh sat down with the whole main cast including David Dae Kim who portrays the villain Fire Lord Ozai and Paul Sun-Hyung Lee as who plays Uncle Iroh as they talk about the thrill of playing such iconic characters, and the pressure of bringing this IP to the fans. We also got to chat with Gordon Cormier, (Aang) Kiawentiio, (Katara) Dallas Liu, (Zuko) and Ian Ousley (Sokka) as they talk about all the training that they did for their perspective elements, and the excitement they had of leading such beloved characters!

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Maika Monroe, Longlegs director, Osgood Perkins, Blair Underwood and Alicia Witt interview for JoBlo

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Foundation Season 2 Interviews: Lee Pace, David S. Goyer & more - YouTube

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Doctor Strange: Dimension War book

"Marvel and Titan Books have announced that they’re teaming up for the prose novel Doctor Strange: Dimension War, which is set to reach store shelves on March 26, 2024 – and it’s already available for pre-order on Amazon! Written by bestselling author James Lovegrove (The Age of Odin), this book is said to be revisiting the origin of the titular hero.

Here’s the official description: When arrogant physician Stephen Strange lost the ability to wield a surgeon’s knife, he embarked on a path of self-reflection, mysticism and discovery. Now equipped with magical powers, he battles tirelessly to defend the Earth from arcane threats that few humans can conceive of – battling rival sorcerers, thwarting Nightmare the malevolent ruler of dreams, and daring to defy the terrifying despot of the Dark Dimension, Dormammu.

Marvel notes that Doctor Strange: Dimension War is an introduction to “the foundational characters who have defined Doctor Strange through the years, such as the Ancient One, Wong, Clea, and his many adversaries. The novel follows Strange’s adventures to some of the weirdest places in the Marvel Universe—the dream kingdom of Nightmare, the Dark Dimension, and beyond!“

Lovegrove provided the following statement: “I would have been seven or eight years old when I first read the Stan Lee/Steve Ditko Doctor Strange [comics]. I was instantly captivated by its intrinsic weirdness, its blurring of the line between superheroics and the supernatural. There was no other comic strip that looked like it, disorientated like it, revelled in its own extraordinariness like it. There was nothing stranger than Strange. I’ve come back to those tales several times since that first youthful immersion, and while revisiting them yet again in preparation for writing Dimension War I found them just as fascinatingly tricksy and woozily dizzying as I did when I was kid. It’s almost impossible to re-create Ditko’s mad, daring artwork in prose form but I challenged myself to offer readers at least a taste of it while also giving them the opportunity to relish Lee’s exuberant, alliterative spellcasting chants and oaths [for] an unparalleled sense of cosmic grandeur and eldritch absurdity. My take on the early adventures of the Master of the Mystic Arts removes some of the original’s more outdated tropes, throws in a dash of Benedict Cumberbatch, and a pinch of wider Marvel lore. Dimension War marinades it all in modern sensibilities, with results that I hope will both satisfy purists and be appetizing to newcomers.“

Sounds like a good time to me.

Does Doctor Strange: Dimension War sound like a book you would like to read? Share your thoughts on this one by leaving a comment below – and while you’re scrolling down, take a look at the cover:

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What it's worth about Mystery Men

Status Post #11195: I would love to see a TV series based on the comics that were adapted into the film.

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WTF Happened to The Fifth Element?

What would you say is the best Sci-Fi movie ever made…Empire Strikes Back, Blade Runner, 2001: A Space Odyssey, Alien, Star Trek:Wrath of Khan, The Matrix, Total Recall or even The Adventures of Pluto Nash? Those are all well and good and some of the best genre defining films, but what if I told you there was a movie that defied the genre in every way. One that has stood the test of time and transcended the genre. The film I’m talking about is Luc Besson’s 1997 classic The Fifth Element starring the great Bruce Willis.

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watched sonic 3, p good, felt like they did amp up the silliness cuz they were worried they needed to balance the "dark" stuff/get that family money, so some tension breaking jokes in there unfortunately which arent for me lmao but still worked over all emotionally. also remember someone saying the 3rd act was v dbz (someone even compared it to MoS which is warranted imho, even a sequence that it homages lmao) also was fun turning into a 13 yr old MCU fan and getting that post credit scene hit like crack, no wonder nerds loved that shit back in the day lmao

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Dylan O'Brien goes into detail of his character in "Caddo Lake", the experience of working with everyone and more in an interview with Jimmy O from JoBlo.

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07/31/2024 Daily OFMD Recap

TLDR; David Jenkins; Rhys Darby; Taika Waititi; Con O'Neill; Kristian Nairn: WJW; Ruibo Qian; Madeleine Sami; Guz Khan; TellTaleTV Voting Results; OFMD Dress Month; Fan Spotlight; Love Notes; Daily Darby/Today's Taika;

Hey crew, I'm several days behind so I'm gonna do things a bit different this time around-- I'm gonna split the last day of July up from Aug 1, and 2. Sorry I'm so delayed, been a lot going on at work and home. Hope everyone is staying healthy and safe out there.

== David Jenkins ==

Chaos Dad, David Jenkins seems to be keeping the OFMD memes shared! It's so nice to see him sharing so much art and fun in the fandom <3 This time around the art was from the incredibly talented @lumintsu!

Source: David's Twitter

== Rhys Darby ==

Reminder! Cryptid Factor is coming to London Aug 9th! Also what a sweet shot of Rhys on the plane over the ocean <3

Source: Rhys Darby's Instagram Stories

== Taika Waititi ==

More BTS Stills from Joblo's Article/Interview about Time Bandits!

Some sneaky pool Taika!

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== Con O'Neill ==

New episode of Time Bandits is out and Con is on episode 3! Including some gifs below by @laceratedlamiaceae and @gydima to see some of the fun stuff he was up to!

== Kristian Nairn: WJW ==

July 31 was Wee John Wednesday! Where Kristian did a whole video on all the lovely gifts he's received over the years from fans! There are some absolutely adorable things in there! Apologies, normally I try to transcribe highlights, but I'm still catching up on all the things after this crazy work week, so here's some highlights from our friends over at @adoptourcrew!

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== Ruibo Qian ==

Ruibo's getting ready for the opening night of Ms. Holmes & Ms. Watson! Unfortunately it looks like she got quite a bit of a bruise in prep!

Source: Ruibo's Instagram

== Madeleine Sami ==

Our dear Mads was out on @7daysnz a comedy news show in AoNZ!

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== Guz Khan ==

Guz is out on U & Dave in the "Battle in the Box!"

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== Tell Tale TV Votes ==

Hey folks! Your hard work payed off! We managed to win the poll for most heartbreaking cancellation (as rough as that is). Sending so many hugs to the fans for Station 19, it's obvious yall have been missing the hell out of your show too. Here's hoping we'll both get to see our shows for another season!

Source: Tell Tale TV Twitter

== OFMD Dress Week ==

Another theme week is coming up September 9th-15th, this time hosted by our friend @libroseitm! You can follow OFMD Dress week on Twitter!

Source: OFMD Dress Week Twitter

== Fan Spotlight ==

= Cast Cards =

More cast cards tonight from our resident cast expert-- @melvisik! First up is Jon A., and Dwayne G. These two are more of our magnificent action talents (according to ofmd-crew.com!) After them-- is Karla Spika, another one of our Casting Directors (NZ department)!

Source: @melvisik's Twitter

= OFMD Colouring Pages =

The fabulous @patchworkpiratebear is putting out some more great colouring pages-- this time illustrating one of @denizbevan's fics! There are lots of versions available, so please visit their tumblr for more!

Source: Patchwork Pirate Bear's Tumblr

== Love Notes ==

Okay lovelies, I had so much I wanted to say, but I am so behind as it is, so I'm gonna do another couple days of other folks love notes. Sending love and hug vibes your way.

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== Daily Darby / Today's Taika ==

Just these two doing some crazy stuff! Gifs courtesy of our fellow Rhys and Taika enthusiasts --@celluloidbroomcloset and @soundsofmyuniverse!

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If you do go and see the new re-release of the original Terminator film from 1984 this is what you can expect to see

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I feel like you NEED to see this. I was watching joblo’s video about josh hartnett and somehow they found a picture of him as a kid??? 😭

Cooper as a child I guess?

He looks like a prestige little rich boy taking a picture at his private school 💀.

OH MY GODDD BABY JOSH😭😭😭😭😭 so he's always had that tooth gap😭 i'm getting cuteness aggression

school picture days for cooper must've been one of the few times he felt loved, with his mom fussing over his clothes and doing his hair. i'm making myself sad

what a polite, sweet looking boy. he's definitely not capable of horrors beyond our comprehension

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The finished film received a theatrical release at the end of September, but it seems that few movie-goers noticed. 

And why is that a few movie-goers noticed, JoBlo, why is that? Have you tried asking Lionsgate?

Anyway, Bagman will soon be available on digital release. The article refers to the US release on 18 October, in UK this will be 21 October. Just check Amazon wherever you are.

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"Earth Abides offers a unique view of what a rebuilt world could look like after the end. Even though it still has conflict, this series takes a different approach to envisioning the future[...] Each cast member represents a different voice of what society is made up of including Charlie (Aaron Tveit), a stranger who comes across the small tribe halfway through the series.[...] Earth Abides boasts solid production values and a cast of relative newcomers anchored by solid performances from Alexander Ludwig and Jessica Frances Drake, with an impressive supporting role from Aaron Tveit."

-JoBlo Earth Abides TV Review, November 26, 2024

*Earth Abides premieres on December 1st on MGM+. (December 2nd on STAN in Australia. Same day as US.)

**Aaron Tveit (Charlie) appears in Episode 4 and 5, which are both released on December 22, 2024!

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Hey kids, want to see the lives of some of the greats in the horror genre and maybe see me chat them up? Check out my What Happened Series on JoBlo Horror this Halloween season. It feat interviews with Kane Hodder, Doug Bradley, Barbara Crampton, David Howard Thornton, Rick Baker, and more.