#JM wrote stuff

[xcziel]

has anybody else thought about how jk could easily manage sofia's parts of slow dance or is it just me?

[kanmom51]

JM's Jungkookie

@westcoastgal1 , just wrote a full ass post replying to your ask regarding that clip from BTS winter package 2020, all for it to just evaporate into thin air.

So friggin annoying!!!!

So, I'm going to try this again.

You linked this and asked me if JM really called JK his Jungkookie.

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This moment here:

Translation says "My Jungkook...", while listening to JM he does say "...Jungkookie..."

But nothing to see here really.

Not JM doing this after this either...

So what if JM called him "my Jungkookie..." Not like he called him his baby too.

Oh, wait a second, he actually did.

But nah, nothing to see there peeps. Only dudes doing dudes things together.

You know, like sucking a bandmates ear (5 year anniversary just happening to that very bandmate regular moment),

Or sucking on your bandmate's neck.

Mates stuff.

You know!!

[mrs-monaghan]

The way Jikookers giggling about abo ff Wkorea wrote about Jikook because one of editor is friends with JM and Jk thinking he knows whats up...while the title literally says : ' BROmance ' 💀

Yeah Bromance.

Jikook bros. Wbk

My friends and I will be taking shots each time Jikook call eo bro during AYS. Maybe it will dilute all the other gay stuff they'll be up to. 😏

[conundrumoftime]

Fandom grandma tales: how I survived canon ruining two of the ships I liked.

(Written after a discussion with some of my TROP fan pals about how canon can break your heart re: shipping, and how fandom manages. There are spoilers here for the entire run of Babylon 5, and for one story JMS wrote after it. yes, that story. sorry.)

Babylon 5 was a sci-fi space opera show that ran from 1993 to 1998. It is sci-fi of the era of 22-episode seasons, of huge ensemble casts with characters who get their own B- and C-plots, with an effects and casting budget that doesn’t always match its ambition, and - something it was quite pioneering in, at the time - grand pre-planned story arcs. 

It’s the first fandom that I was involved with in internet spaces as it was running, or at least when its final season was (there’s Discourse and drama from earlier years that I missed). Its showrunner, J. Michael Straczynski - ‘JMS’ - was very active in (non-fanfic) fan community spaces, and you always knew exactly what he was thinking about things because he was part of the discussion around them. There was also fanfic, which he didn’t stop but didn’t go near on the grounds of legal liability for story ideas. 

Most of the fanfic in the early days as the show was airing was focused around two big ships, of which one was canon endgame (Delenn/Sheridan) and one was canon all-ends-in-despair (Marcus/Ivanova). I, as a teenager discovering a developing online fandom for the first time with all the overwhelm and excitement that causes (ask me anything about what reading fic was like before the days of tags/ratings/warnings!) got into Marcus/Ivanova and also into one of the minor ships, Delenn/Lennier.

Delenn/Lennier was never, ever going to happen in canon. This is obvious; it clashes with Delenn/Sheridan which was JMS’s baby darling OTP, the show’s big love story. Delenn is married for the later part of the show. Lennier is her diplomatic aide, is absolutely devoted to her, and they have a very intense mentor/student relationship, which it seems is kind of standard in their culture (when Delenn’s own mentor died she went briefly insane with grief and started a genocidal war over it) but is still Very Intense. He is canonically in love with her, but that’s as far as the explicit canon statements go.

However. HowEVER. Canon also gives us, for that relationship, some wonderful ship fuel. Lennier knows about every bad thing Delenn has done, including all the stuff she doesn’t/can’t tell her husband. He’s her link to her previous world and culture and stands by her even when they kick her out. She says at one point, “without him, I would stumble and fall and never get up again.” 

And then… we had Season 5, the final season.

Season 5, for various complicated production reasons, was operating a little outside of pre-planned story arcs and in this season the Delenn/Lennier stuff ramped up about three gears in one go. It was still very obviously never, ever going to be canon, and was almost certainly not intended by the creator (who wrote most of the episodes himself) to look like there was even anything there. At this point Delenn is married; any relationship with her aide would not only be going against the show’s OTP, but going against it in the sense where she’s cheating on her husband, and there is Just No Way JMS would have gone there. And yet! Season 5 gave us:

A scene where Lennier says he can’t stay, it’s too painful to be around her now she’s married, and she’s devastated and has the following conversation with her husband about it:

S: I got your message about Lennier. Is there anything I can do?

D [snapping]: Almost certainly not.

S: Is it because of me?

D: In part, I think so.

S: Yeah, I was afraid of that. Well, as we say back on Earth, three’s a crowd.

D: On Minbar, three is sacred.

S [slightly uncomfortable laugh]: Well, I don’t think I’m ready to handle that one, Delenn.

Delenn then calling Lennier back to the station to do some secret mission thing for her, which involves her sneaking out of her bed while her husband sleeps to meet Lennier in a darkened alley behind a bar, where she tenderly strokes his face and they have a whole conversation about whether her husband understands her or not.

A scene where Lennier comes back from his secret mission to meet both Delenn and Sheridan, Delenn goes to greet him with a hug, and Lennier does this very pointed step back and nod in the direction of her husband, and she pulls back and just sort of pats him on the arms instead. 

I MEAN.

But, the issue here is not what fans did about it but what canon did about it. Canon did the canon equivalent of dragging that ship outside and shooting it in the head. 

In the final few episodes of the entire series, Lennier tries to kill Sheridan, runs away in shame, and then someone finds his diary in which he’d been writing for ages about what a bad decision he thought Delenn had made and how her whole marriage was an awful idea. Even to this day, it’s fun/awful watching people go through a first-time watch when they get to season 5 and hit that. ‘Character assassination in the form of a diary’ was a whole thing for a while. It’s been 20+ years and the actor who played Lennier is stilll mad about it (not because of shippy stuff, but because he - correctly! - thinks Lennier absolutely would not have done that). 

What *fandom* did, on the other hand, was Fixed The Problem.

Delenn/Lennier was not at all a big ship when the series was airing, and for a few years after. Then the fandom dynamics started to change. With less pressure on what canon was going to do, it felt like fandom had more space to play around with things it didn’t do. Fanfic got less interested in trying to fit within the overall story being told and started spinning off in all its own directions. And *this* ship started getting bigger and bigger. People did really interesting things with it, canon divergence went in all directions, everyone wrote a fix-it story of some variety, some authors did a great series of connected stories based on an idea that Minbari have three genders, the quality of the writing has been brilliant. And I think without that absolute whiplash feeling of what happened in canon, there would never have been this feeling of “well I’m not having THAT” which led to all this.

We did not need canon! Canon had done its thing. And canon had broken our hearts enough ways with many of the other stories it told (entirely on purpose) and we weren’t just going to sit back and let it ruin us forever.

By comparison, the other ship I was into was Marcus/Ivanova. This is entirely doomed. Susan Ivanova’s love life is just perpetually doomed. The first partner of hers we meet is an ex who’s interested in getting back together, but then it turns out he’s just using her to infiltrate the station for the fascist terrorist group he’s secretly joined. Then she falls for an archrival of hers, Talia, who works for Psi Corps, the organisation she loathes most of all things - but it’s okay because it turns out Talia is starting to question them too! Maybe these crazy kids can make it work! They have one night together and then OOPS turns out Talia was being secretly controlled by a sleeper personality implanted in her by Psi Corps the whole time. Ivanova’s love life is doomed. 

So for two seasons, she has this sort-of-flirty, sort-of-bickery, sort-of-friendship going with Marcus, who is on the surface of it very much “why not fall in love at first sight like a true romantic, YOLO!” but it turns out is actually deeply messed up himself and full of survivor’s guilt and pain and, you get the clear impression, would have died of shock if she’d actually called his bluff on the OTT flirting and said “yeah, let’s go for it”. And then he sacrifices himself to save her life. It is a very tragic ending, it is absolutely the way he would have wanted to go, she wakes up both furious and absolutely distraught, says that the last thing she heard was him saying “I love you”, says she wishes she’d at least slept with him once, and says that in a way all love is unrequited. PAIN. 

So, lots of fix-it fanfic, lots of ‘Marcus comes back to life’, lots of canon divergence AUs where he doesn’t die and they live happily ever after and both get over their huge levels of unresolved pain. Pretty standard for that kind of pairing. And as a pairing it doesn’t get in the way of any big canon pairings, it doesn’t imply anything icky like mentor/student power imbalances or adultery. And JMS clearly quite liked it. So that’s better, right?

NO. It was WORSE.

JMS wrote an Marcus/Ivanova story himself, published in one of the sci-fi magazines, to try to give them a happy ending. This happy ending involves Marcus, many many years in the future, waking up from the cryogenic suspension he’s in (it’s sci-fi, keep up, keep up). Ivanova is long dead, but he isn’t about to let this get in the way, so what he does is to *create a new Ivanova* by getting some kind of DNA + computerised memory/personality bank thing, finding a doctor who will clone her, putting himself back into animated sleep until the clone reaches the age Ivanova was when she died, then - THEN, I’M STILL GOING - takes her to a distant planet where, with her memories wiped and their spaceship having deliberately been crashed BY HIM so there’s no way back, they live out their lives in peace.

WHAT.

That pairing still does okay in fandom but it’s not really taken on a post-show world of headcanons and riffing on other people’s ideas and tropes in the way that Delenn/Lennier has (and we all just pretend that story never existed). 

So! This has been my experiences in the field of What We Do When The Show Has Thoughts On That Non-Endgame Ship We’re Into. Fandom manages. Fandom will see you through. And in the words of Susan Ivanova:

Babylon Five was the last of the Babylon stations; there would never be another. It changed the future, and it changed us. It taught us that we have to create the future, or others will do it for us. It showed us that we have to care for one another, for if we don’t, who will? And that true strength sometimes comes from the most unlikely places. Mostly though, I think it gave us hope that there can always be new beginnings - even for people like us.

[borathae]

in your opinion, what's the smuttiest piece you have ever written???

👽 👑

This is actually so difficult to answer because I wrote so many unhinged smutty stories 💀 you know what? because you guys have been such good darlings lately, I'm giving you a list of my smuttiest pieces and you guys can pick out your faves 👀 i'll mark the ones I think genuinely smuttiest bold

Bite Me (vampire!OC x human!Taekook)

Between Friends (best friends!Sope)

Captured (rough BDSM with YG)

Bewitched (sex magic with vamp!YG)

Wake Up Call (period eating with rough vamp!YG)

Sharp (kniveplay with gangster!YG)

Drive You Fucking Crazy (sex magic with vamp!TH)

Devotion (period eating with rough vamp!TH)

Brat (rough pegging with brat!TH)

Stripped (rough pegging with rival!JM)

Pegged (rough pegging with brat!JK)

The Games We Play (BDSM playroom scene with JK)

wanna see myself inside you (fisting & pegging with vamp!JK)

Deep (self fisting with vamp!JK)

Don't Tease Please (sex magic with vamp!JK)

Cold Gun (gunplay with gangster!JK)

Creampies & Fishnets (breeding pegging with hubby!JK)

Hot Stuff (waxplay with hubby!JK)

An Abundance of Luck & A Sprinkle of Fate (literally all of it)

Blasphemy (YNK church sex 3sum)

Punishment (YNK angry sex 3sum)

Shed (YNK rough Dom!YG 3sum)

Let's Make a Bet (Taekook Sadism 3sum)

The Morning After (Taekook cuckolding 3sum)

Moonlit Nights (Taekook DPing 3sum)

You're welcome and have fun 🤪💜

[not-goldy]

He is so confusing. He was bragging on Jimin's Muse album in that live. Really hyping him and telling him his work is great, but refuses to say something publicly when it comes time. But in the car they were discussing what they were going to do at Tae's fanmeet where he sang happy bday to Jimin, so it was already planned even before Jeju. Like honey. You are telling Jimin to take care of you when he shows to your Music Bank performance. Invite him to your show and plan things, show up to him rehearsing for his own stuff and ask if you can be in his video, but never once supported either of his albums publicly. Yet you wanna do couples shots and releases Fri(end)s just for now, but then posts JK and You in Hawaii, but then will post Cover Cheek to Cheek when you know Jimin wrote that line in Slow Dancing. One minute you're head over heels smitten and the next you act like you don't know him. Man is giving me whiplash.

I have this take that when Jimin is in Tae's presence, he just can't help it & folds in half but being away its easier to put up this front like he don't care, so its literally that, he doesn't show anything toward him. Sir you care. This we say it behind closed doors. No SIR. Not when you will post Lisa on your page, as many times as you have Jimin, when Jimin should be just as much as anyone else. I don't hear you saying you wanna take couple pics with them. Gatekeeping 30,000 Jimin pics. I know you. Just post the darn things.

And he made up his mind not to post for JM on his birthday but folded and planned a surprise birthday present in Army merch.

Personally I would feel so guilty if I couldn't show up for someone I considered a friend. Like I couldn't do that and then look them in the eye and call them a friend that's just diabolic

And it sucks cos their interactions are so nice to watch.

And I get that he can be a bit petty and assertive and reactionary but he just can't keep doing this you know, shit hurts 💔 😪

He and Jk be giving me chest pains every now and then it's good there have Jimin and Hobi in there cos sometimes they bleed me out

[dearweirdme]

A lot of your explanations for why Tae and Jk weren’t shown much on official content together hinges on the assumption that BH knew/ knows about whatever they have going on but why are you so positive that BH knew? It seems like sometimes people think that it would have been easy for Taekook to just let others know that they are in relationship but it wouldn’t. That wouldn’t have been information they would have been keen on letting anyone in on including the members, so unless they were actually caught in the act by the company or some staff, I doubt they would have readily gone to tell the company about how they felt. They were young then, belonged to a boyband all while knowing how their country viewed people who were attracted to the same sex, I don’t think that is something they would have been careless enough to let the company find out about so what makes you so sure that the company knew?

You may want to say that if fans noticed it and began to ship them heavily then the company must have noticed it too but taekook isn’t the only huge and popular ship. We have other big ships like woosan, chanlix, jenlisa and many more but we all know that there is no way all of these ships are real. They all aren’t real but there are people who swear that they notice things and that is why the ships are huge. If you were to take away the company possibly knowing about taekook and trying to separate them, how then would you explain them not being seen together enough in content? How do you explain the ITS talk?

You say that they only seemed awkward or distant on official content because of the company but how do you explain the fact that Jk said he only saw Hobi and Jm during their break in 2019? Even when they got back together after the break to film BV, Tae himself mentioned that he hadn’t seen any of the members in about a months and when he started talking about his friend getting married, Jk looked at him and payed attention to what he was saying like that was information he was getting for the first time. If you truly think they never went through a distant phase, then how is it possible that two people who are dating went through an entire break without seeing each other even when Jk literally has a birthday during that break? I also vividly remember during festa 2020 when Jk wrote a note to Tae (while all the members were writing notes to each other) and told him that he seemed more quiet and that he should talk to someone if he is going through something. Why would Jk write a public note to Tae after noticing that he seemed quieter? Why wouldn’t he just talk to him in private to know what is wrong and if they are weren’t kinda distant why would he word things like that. I was in the fandom at the time and the truth is that, taekook didn’t seem too involved with each others private lives then as they did in chapter two. As you said, it is hard to get a feel of things when you don’t experience it yourself and I feel like many people who didn’t experience that moment cannot really tell the difference between that time and the solo era. In the solo era, we got a lot of information and saw a lot of stuff that showed how involved taekook were in each other’s lives but around 2018-2020 there wasn’t much. You could never sit and just hear that taekook were together or spotted somewhere (except for Namsan in 2018). Tae was usually with woods, Bogum or other friends while Jk was usually seen with or heard to be with his 97 liner, Jimin, Hobi or other friends from outside of work. 2019 break was the first break they had in a while and one would think that Taekook might have wanted to spend some of that time together but immediately they got the break, Tae went travelling with his friends while Jk was hanging out with other friends and I could understand them wanting to spend time with other people in their lives but doing this and not seeing each other at all for a whole month? How is this what a couple would do?

I think that people continue to misunderstand what it was that taekook said during that talk. Of course parts of their conversation were edited out so we only got to see bits of it but from what we gathered, Tae basically said him and Jk hadn’t had drinks in a while, Jk said he had been able to have one on one talks with everyone except Tae which is consistent with what he said during Festa about Tae seemingly being quieter. People also keep saying that they said they were distant or awkward but that isn’t what they said. Jk said some parts of his friendship with Tae started to feel awkward and he went ahead to explain it by saying that Tae used to play around and joke around all the time but as they matured he got more reserved and quieter and also explained that as they started spending more time apart and doing things on their own, some parts of things started feeling awkward. They never saw they were generally awkward with each other but just that some aspects of their friendship started to feel awkward. Seeing as Jk mentioned Tae joking around before but changing to be more reserved, I am more inclined to thinking that their playful dynamic was impacted by Tae’s change. Taekook never stopped being friends and certainly never stopped caring about each other and sometimes you seem to forget that skinship doesn’t mean the same to them as it means to you. There is a good chance that you are interpreting their touchiness in a very different way than they are so because they never had any issues with each other, they were normally going to still be affectionate with each other but being affectionate and touchy and all that doesn’t mean they lied about feeling some awkwardness in parts of their dynamic.

I think in this case, you are looking at things in very black and white way. You are not taking into contthe fact that relationships are complex and that people can feel many different things at the same time. You are not taking into consideration the fact that human relationships ebb and flow and that people no matter how close could experience some distance or awkwardness in their relationships and then work to fix it. People often forget that they are witnessing these boys grow up within a 13 year period of time where they would go through so many changes. I have seen some people claim that the solo era proved that taekook were never awkward but the solo era from 2022-2023 was two whole years after they had that talk and promised to work on being closer. A lot can happen in two years especially if the two people involved were intentional about fixing that rift. The same way one can be best friends with someone today but mortal enemies the next day. That is life and in my opinion anyone who doesn’t realize how complex human relationships can be and much things can change in short periods of time, thinks life is black and white.

Relationships with people in our lives are meant to be tested by time and circumstances as that is the only way we know how much we value those people or how much they value us. Two people going over 13 years without ever feeling any distance creep in isn’t more special than people feeling a distance creep in for some reason, talking about it and deciding to work on that distance because they care about each other enough to want to put in the work. The later shows that they have been tested and were able to make things work because they valued each other that much. I don’t get why some people hate to think that even the healthiest relationship go through tough times. You say Tae and Jk never seemed awkward or distant but you do know that things are not always as they seem.

Hi anon!

I am positive that BH knew because of how they acted. I don’t know how they became aware (could be a sudden discovery, someone could have ratted them out.. who knows, that’s not the point though), but from how they went from showing Tae and Jk as this super close duo to barely having them together is just weird and makes no sense from a business perspective. Even if Tae and Jk did become somewhat distant, BH would still have been able to pair them and make use of the popular ship at their hands. Jikook exists for a reason. They know having a ship makes fans feel connected and it keeps chatter going. They could have easily built on Taekook, and yet they shifted.

Aside from that, simultaneously to the shift away from Taekook we see signs of attraction, jealousy, arguments, softness, magnetism, admiration, hesitation, and a whole lot of looks and smiles being hidden… that shows to me that there was something more between Tae and Jk. So when I combine that.. to me it looks like Tae and Jk became a thing, somehow the company knew and reacted. Yes, Tae and Jk were young. Young people in love can be careless at times.

I can’t explain the lack of Taekook content by anything else, because I literally can’t think of another reason. From a business perspective it doesn’t make sense, and I definitely don’t feel Tae and Jk were that much at odds with each other that they weren’t able to create content.

I always find it odd when people focus too much on a specific moment. It was only a month long break, they are literally around each other all the time and they knew they would again be around each other all the time after their break. It’s hardly important. For all we know they factimed the whole time, or perhaps they needed a break from each other as well. Who knows? In the long run of things, it hardly matters to me. When looking at other people’s lives there will always be things that look really odd, but probably have a normal explanation we just can’t think of.

The ITS talk is weird on any level. It was clear even before ITS that Tae and Jk were fine and close even. If they had issues, it would not have been worth a public talk like that. It would still have been a talk they did for entertainment value. It’s an unbalanced talk even, since Tae did not get a chance (I think he refused) to do a solo part and explain his side.

I think if anything, it’s that I always communicate the complexity of relationships and people’s characters. I think what many people just have issues with is the possibility of something this big being hidden and of a company having such a negative role. Closeting in the music industry is a tale as old as time though. I believe there’s a real chance Tae and Jk have been together for a while now because that’s what I think I have seen signs of. It’s not because I want it to be true, but everything combined just makes me believe that it is.

[jmdbjk]

JM Welive & JK Welive #3-4

Jimin’s Welive:

My god, he looks SOOOO good. All these years, when Jimin makes comments about how he looks, I always think, “omg, Jimin, you always look great!” He looked especially fantastic during this live though he admitted he’d had a sore throat and his voice was a little rough. He reassured us he took some meds and he’s fine.

Within the first 22 seconds, someone texts him because his phone vibrates once... he looks down... who is it? Is it his manager saying we leave in 20 minutes? Or someone else who wants to order chicken and look for something to watch on Netflix? ... ... ... he wanted to say something... but he didn’t... 

Anyway, Jimin continues and says “here I am alive and well!” and came to tell us. He’s seen our comments. His album is coming soon, it’s almost ready and he’s got lots of stuff in store for us. [squeeeeeeeeeee!!!!1!!] He even filmed something earlier in the day but he couldn’t talk about it. 

When he was talking about working with Taeyang, and specifically the MV, he said something to the effect that he realized he has been living comfortably like a child in a warm home... did he mean he realized how pampered he’s been as a member of BTS? I wrote about my impressions of the Vibe MV and I was not very complimentary of the production... is Jimin confirming that the conditions were not up to what he’s been used to? 

He was choosing his words carefully and I’m sure the reason he said it was to self-reflect on how fortunate he is. Perhaps he realizes his solo work process so far has also been very easy compared to other artists trying to make music and be successful. Jimin has a whole company behind him that can cater to every whim and he’s able to work with almost any producer he chooses and he’s able to have a lot of guidance in things he’s less experienced in.

He says he’s happy, doing the things he wants to be doing. He’s experiencing new things including being a fashion ambassador. He says happy things are happening one right after the other and I’m thrilled for him. It’s so good to see him in such a positive headspace because 2020 through 2021 were suckass.

He says he’s living the busy life and then (randomly?) mentions he has been watching Suchwita... 

After someone asked him if he saw Taeyang watching that old video of young Jimin singing/dancing to a Taeyang song, Jimin says he was so embarrassed and wonders how did he ever become Bangtan... hahahahahahahaaa... 

He talked more about Paris Fashion week and wanting to talk more about his work but he can’t say anything right now. Jimin is excited, y’all. I’m excited for him, it’s going to be so fun when his album is released!

JK Welive #3: Jungkookie has reached a certain status where he doesn’t answer to anyone. Though the members told him not to drink while live broadcasting... Jungkook is a man on a mission. 

And then boyfie shows up in the comments...

[That man’s mega-watt smile when he realized his Jiminie was in the comments... be still my heart... ]

He kept looking for Jimin in between laughing at Bam who was chasing the green dots swirling around on the walls.

He really wanted Jimin to be there... lol. 

And a screen shot of Jimin’s comments with Weverse translations:

When Jimin said “It’s night” he meant Bam, he saw Bam... “Bam” means night. And with the emojis... sobx5 It’s Bam sobx5

Jimin: (laughing) kekekekekeke don’t do it when you’re drunk kekekekekekeke (that amount of keke-ing is falling over laughing keke-ing don’t you think?)

Also Jimin: I am at another location for work, kekekekeke sobbing emoji... kissy face emoji (!!!)

Also Jimin: have fun with Army, I’ll be back after work (!!!) silly face emoji

I want to ask Jungkookie and Jiminie exactly who is acting more shameless these days?

JK Welive #4: 

Welp... the man on a mission didn’t count on Netflix’s big nope. From what I saw, Kookie was enjoying his chicken, beer and his Netflix show. 

Kookie did happen to tear his eyes away from his chicken and tv   program and saw Jimin back in the comments.

And Armys were quick enough to save this for us before the live got deleted... Jimin’s comments on the deleted Welive #4...

Jimin: commenting that Kookie is just sitting there watching TV with the live on... 

Jimin: (laughing) kekekekekeke you’re cute with the gloves on kekekekeke (he is falling over laughing again).

Jimin: (laughing) kekekekekekekekeke I want to tie your hair neatly kekeke

And lastly: (Korean OP clarified the wonky Weverse translation because apparently, Jimin dropped his formal language and spoke very informally/cutely) I gotta go, eat plenty, baby. (!!!!!)

Confirmed: Jimin and Jungkook are... still flirting in front of our morning salad. Like, I-want-to-tie-your-hair-back-eat-well-spend-time-with Bam-and-Army-babe-I’ll-be-back-later-after-work NUCLEAR level flirting.

Anon who is trying to make a big deal out of this formal greeting Jimin and Jungkook do all the time... I’ve seen them do this repeatedly... this formal polite-bowing-hello-nice-to-meet-you thing they’ve been doing that I’ve seen at least 4 different times now and is some inside joke of theirs. Just another one of those things that’s between the two of them. I can hear it now... at some point in the past, someone could have, maybe, who knows... said to them... “hey guys, chill a little, y’all being really loud, as in totally obvious with the hickey/touchy-feely/bedroom eyes”... and one of them said “what are we supposed to do? act like we just met?” And they ran with it (laughing all the way.)

BAHAHAHAHA!

Anyway. Nothing has changed. They are fine.

I hope they put #4 live back up after clearing any copyright claims on it and putting stickers all over that chicken box to hide the logos... [hears Hobi repeating “he never listens” while both of us shaking our heads].

[samasmith23]

Ya know… as much justified criticism and anger that Spider-Man: Sins Past receives from fans… I do actually legitimately really love the opening scene from this arc featuring Mary Jane is auditioning for a play, and she follows the director’s advice of not trying too hard to act, but to just naturally channel her own personal life experiences into her emotional performances:

As a diehard fan of the way JMS wrote MJ & Peter’s relationship as a married couple, I just couldn’t help but feel my heart strings being tug by this last page in particular:

Weirdly though, in Linkara’s 600th Episode reviewing Sins Past, Lewis seemed mildly annoyed by this scene primarily due to the way the theater director was illustrated, feeling it came across as overly smug and pretentious. Plus my best friend pointed out that said-director heavily resembles actor Robert De Niro for some reason…

Personally though… I couldn’t care less about the director’s potential smugness since the stuff with MJ’s audition itself (as well as her happily telling Peter she got the part) was more than enough to sell the scene for me!

From Amazing Spider-Man (1999) #509 by J. Michael Straczynski & Mike Deodato Jr.

[taehyungfirst]

https://www.tumblr.com/taehyungfirst/753922339724476416/if-mental-sickness-is-something-its

I’m guessing by now you know that the gc was fake. I know you despise jkkrs but even you knows that gc was fake as hell i mean you don’t think it was a too much of a coincidence that all the jkk problematic shooter accounts just happened to be in a gc and just happened to be saying stuff like that in a twitter gc of 78 people? Someone was definitely trying to take them all out. I think the saddest part of it all is that the person/people who actually did all that are taekookers or jjks. They had no problems saying the most vile things about tae and Jk just to pin it on some problematic jkkrs. The person fumbled though because they could repeat all the things they knew pple would eat up and believe abt jkkrs but they forgot details like the fact that some of those jkkrs are American so they don’t spell favor as favour which is the English way to spell it. They also didn’t know that Nabi doesn’t have auto caps on and never starts sentences with capital letters plus the dead giveaway was the fact that the language was the same throughout proving that one person wrote everything. Atp, jkkrs are not taehyung’s biggest opps. His biggest opps are his own stans who have no issues saying those type of vile things about him just to make a group of shippers look bad. Nothing is hidden from the sun so i hope when that person/pple get exposed, you will keep the same energy.

Well no!

Why would I be surprised that they were in a groupchat together when they always hype each other on the tl? Defending that gc and pinning the blame on someone else, were you in there too among those 70 people, sweetheart? What makes you ride so hard for people who send Tae death threats, wishes him the worst and never once in their life cared about Jk artistry? You’re def a jkkr, but what’s worse is that you’re def one of those p/jms jkkers.

It was a screenrecording that went back to their accounts, that looks like some advanced editing if you ask me. Here, check this. Autocaps, language, maybe being so much into it really doesn’t make you realize that you cultists talk in the same way and repeat the same shit over and over again.

And I still don’t understand what’s the point in coming on a Tae blog defending those rats, I don’t care, I hope they all get doxxed and deplatformed.

[hobimo]

see i don't even disagree w you, it's the specific jikook brand of omegaverse that is rly just an excuse to write straight romance undetected. like you can't convince me that if you replace jm and jk from the average jikook fic with a straight couple something would feel different. and please don't feel included in this because you know how to write a great plot and establish characters ok!!! actually i think i read a bakudeku fic once! it was superr popular and short i think? i tried reading some jujutsu kaisen ff and yeah there's some good stuff out there but nothing compares to the emotional attachment i have to bts so 😞 i need to fixate on something else asap❗

you would not believe. how many times i've tried answering this ask before i dissolve into Yapping. sorry. i have a lot of thoughts about the type of fic you're describing i really do. it's bothered me for a long time. my general thoughts are that. bts ao3 fic is a very short walk from wattpad band fic. so a lot of those sorts of people end up over here that dont have that Shame the rest of us nerds do who grew up writing cringey ass book and anime fic when we were teens that pushed us to experiment with writing in complete anonymity and write fucked up and shit stuff and we started Caring abt what we wrote. and also the wattpad band fic environment is so different to the ao3 m/m. but if you know a little grammar and you actually finish the fic the story just gets so unbelievably popular on its own.

that being said there are good fics still in bts jikook. i havent found them yet but i know they're in there. there's gotta be at least one brave soldier left fighting against swathes of people who probably unironically read colleen hoover for fun. there's gotta be. i refuse to live in a world where there isnt

[kanmom51]

JK Seven MV making sketch BTB

Yay, the subs are back on. And I got to watch it and even understand what he was saying, lol.

Loved it.

I was just sitting here for the 12 minutes with a huge smile on my face.

Because JK is just so adorable. So genuine. So real.

He had the time of his life, and seeing that just made me happy.

Now let's talk about a few thing I took from the BTB, why don't we?

I think I'll start from the fun and make my way to the more serious.

Not too much went on really. It's mostly him enjoying himself.

Being his own chaotic loveable self.

Trying to keep his eye open with the water pouring down on him, lol.

Can you imagine just how much fun this all was for him, our daredevil?

Funny, just thought about it, but they didn't even talk to Hun Sohee. Not a word. She might as well not have been there. Now I understand that JK is the focus, it's his song, BTBs are about the members, but at the same time, she's a well known and loved Korean actress acting in his MV and not only don't we get to hear from her even once, we also don't really get to see interactions between him and her in the BTB. In a way it feels like they are trying to keep this distance - this is JK, he's singing Seven, he's shooting a MV, but he's disconnected from it. I'm not sure I'm being clear enough here.

Ok, so for example JK explains what the scenes are and says the word girlfriend, god forbid. We know y/ns went into a frenzy over this stupidity. JK explaining the concept of the scene in which he's fighting with his gf, cause that's what the MV is about, and she's his gf in the bloody MV.

But maybe, knowing this fandom, they wanted to keep the delusion to a minimum, not to mention keep Sohee away from the crazy ass fans that are already harassing her by just keeping her off camera as much as possible. Idk, just found it interesting.

JK tells us a little about his acting, lol.

To all those that are still riding the scripted fanservice bandwagon, time to fucking get off it.

Omg, the way he disses Yoongi, he just LOVES to do that with Yoongi. Now I can kind of understand the "even at 60 years old jeon jungkook will be freaking annoying".🤣🤣

JK is wearing THE brand again. I'm telling you folks, JM made a huge online order for the two of them!!

He's just so precious, with this thing he has of checking out his hands, every single time it feels like it's the first time he's seen them, lol. The fascination he had from his water wrinkled fingers. So endearing.

Looks at them in amazement, shows everyone, then back to looking at them again all fascinated.

You'd think the man has never in his lifetime taken a long shower or had a bath or been in the damn swimming pool. Nah, lol. It's just one of those cute loveable oddities of his.

Did we notice the ASSets?

And I thought JM was in charge of that body part in the family.

Well, apparently the competition is on.

Has JK surpASSed JM?

Should we progrASS? Oopsy...progress?

And now I will take a moment to breathe.

I went looking for more pics from the BTB and came across this:

I don't know enough about the movie but do we know of any kind of connection to Jikook? Or this could be the directors tribute to the movie too. In any case it's a fun tribute.

Now for the heavy stuff, or not so heavy just a little more on the serious side.

I wrote a long ass brain fart of a post yesterday. And some of it is very relevant here too.

JK clearly sees the song as a love song. Period.

He did the explicit version for the fun of it (well and also probably because the America market loves a song with profanities in it). But for him it's the fun of not being restricted by the Kpop rules of engagement, the "don't swear because the song will be censored" and "don't swear because it's too adult" or whatever other reasons for it. He's having fun feeling more freedom, and that he's all grown up and can say fucking multiple times out loud.

But when it comes down to it, when asked about it directly, his answer was that he prefers the clean version. Because to him Seven is a love song, not one about the physical act alone. Yes, of course sex is part of it (the song lyrics are kind of loud), but sex is not even half of what loving someone is all about.

We saw JK talking about the love of his life while explaining about the song.

Him in the BTB about the death scene:

And at the end of the BTB explaining more:

And we also have what he said in the interview aired earlier today on Z100 radio.

The more we get of JK talking about the song the clearer and louder it becomes. I just wish people would only be listening to him.

Anyway, the man is beautiful.

Love him.

Not as much as the love of his life does though.

No competition there!!

[neverforever09]

So, Seven was released. There was a lot of drama surrounding this before its release and a lot of drama after its release.

I fully support Jikook, but I think that my belief in Jikook is fully seperable and irrelavent when it comes to pointing out injustices in their music careers. Do I support the relationship that I belive JK and JM have? Yes. Do I acknowledge and love how JK and JM support each other? Yes. Do those things mean that I’m obligated to support Seven and be happy for JK as a musician? No. 

There are a lot of things you could point out in comparing between how FACE was handled and how Seven is being handled. A lot of those things ought to make you pissed off on JM’s behalf. The short promo? The disadvantageous chart manipulations? Gosh, even the lack of a cake (if you’ve followed BTS for all these years, you must know how a simple cake is a staple to celebrate significant events like...oh idk, a BB#1???!). Seven on the other hand, to put it lightly, did not recieve this kind of treatment. Am I advocating for JK’s music to face the injustices that JM’s FACE release did? No. I am simply putting it out there that it needs to be acknowledged that Seven was clearly favoured over JM’s debut album when looking at the treatment each of these recieved. As a fan, I honestly felt that JM’s success was more organic - his records came from songs he wrote, choreography he worked hours to perfect, and the dedication of his fans and their love for the music he put out.

Looking at Seven as a song, look I love JK as a musician. Anyone with ears can tell that dude can really sing well (again, putting it lightly). He’s an all rounder and from a business perspective, it’s easy to understand why so much favourtism is awarded to him (as an ARMY, that stuff does not sit right with me). This song, the GMA performances, the lyrics even - all of it felt, for lack of a better word, Western. It felt like any other American song about sex. The cherry on the cake was that he didn’t even write it, BTS didn’t write it. We don’t need to look at the credits to know who didn’t write it. BTS songs have beautiful lyricism and intellgient melodies and all of that is glaringly absent in Seven. All this promo, this hype, these analyses, for a mainstream-produced song that JK did not even write. Anyways, this side note is just to say that Seven did not hit the spot for me as a song, it did not live up to the hype surrounding it, and more than that, as a song associated with JK since I know he can do so much better. 

Another side note is that I felt the use of the subject of sex in this song was kind of cheap. I know BTS are grown ups and see no issue with them devoting songs to sex (that is an important and normal part of life, ngl). With Seven, I felt like sex was sorta used the same way that plot twists are cheaply used in TV shows, you know? As a shock factor or something to draw people in. The song isn’t deep (at least to me it isn’t), but is everyone screaming about it because JK sings about fucking someone right? Sure, the song is hot. JK is hot. But that’s irrelevent to whether the song is good, no?

Anyhow, those are my two cents on all this FACE/Seven stuff especially for people who might feel a similar conflict, but might be pressured by other posts they may see that mandate that you should be happy for Seven and JK as a musician if you are a Jikooker.

[mariajmajesty]

What jk said exactly? Why tkkrs think that jk didn't know that jm was in USA (months ago)

Tkkrs say stuff without providing any proof when something they don't expect with evidance happens to stop it from escalating. they try to cause confusion by spreading false information mixed in with the real information as much as possible to gain back control on the narrative by hoping it will stick and more people will pick it up and the lie will be turn into a fact. it's a form of control like how propaganda networks work. If enough people see it in the first attempt the tactic works no matter if deep down they are struggling with doubts and insecurities they only share in their PG chats to each other. Some examples

"Set me free was for Taehyung but was given to Jimin" Lies. Jimin wrote it for himself to himself and we all can guess why they want it

"GCF Tokyo was suppose to be with Taehyung and JK setteled". Lies. JK did it for Jimin's birthday and never once mentioned any other member

"BTS never goes out without managers and bodyguards so this means Taennie is a PR relationship". Lies. JK and Jimin did it in Tokyo and I imagine when they all travel with family and friends for holidays or in private they do it too

"He isn't in Paris with Jennie, he is in Nice". Lies. There's a video, pictures and enough information for that

"That's a cosplay gang". Lies. Nobody can arrange that in such short time and Taehyung himself doesn't say it wasn't him and his manager

"Jungkook never support or promote Jimin's songs". Lies. He's basically the only one who consistently do it and even dedicated an entire live for him

"Taehyung and JK celebrate birthdays together every year" bla bla..the list goes on. It will become harder and harder to keep this up tho because things change and nobody has full control of the situation (enter Jennie) that's why they are forced to keep changing what they say about them as people

So to answer your question anon, JK didn't say that. (that's why the person who wrote that to me didn't answer when I asked for a proof). Was JK even active much? I don't remember..

[marengogo]

QUICKIE - 3: Must Be Just Me …

Island - by Colde  [Love Part 2]

[Music is a very big part of my life and I’m MOSTLY INCAPABLE of writing without music, so I just thought I'd share what I am listening to while writing this]

🐺 — 🐺 — 🐺—

How’s everyone been? How are you enjoying Chapter 2? How is your Jikook-neck-of-the-woods fairing for you? Is it everything you were looking for? … *picks into some of the woods* … If so, I am happy for you but, NOT. GONNA. LIE. Some of y’all woods it feel like even just asking these simple questions might be potentially triggering 🤡.

I recall saying something akin to “live and let live” in my previous post → DEAR FUTURE BABY JIKOOKER, and I’d really love to do so, yet, I fear I must step on a toe, or two, because this “Jikook-Anxiousness” has reached my end-of-the-woods so, out of curiosity, I just had to know … I had to know if this quick thing I am about to talk about is all in my head, or if anyone out here has also the same perception as mine.

Before I get into all of that tho, remember when in this post → ME, MYSELF & JIKOOK, which I uploaded on January 12, I felt like we were going to not get any, “relevant” Jikook content for like 1076 days more or less? Somewhere in this post I also wrote

Please let that sink in and understand what this means.

… Well, we are 125 days in, and for some Jikookers, it doesn’t seem like this has either sunk in, nor has it been understood, in fact, it appears as if shit has already either being lost or hitting the fan hard. 

I can understand the anxiety out of lack of Jikook content, I can try and understand the anxiety out of lack of off-camera Jikook content, but the “I guess it was really fanservice / they must have broken up” in this CHAPTER-2-SOUTH-KOREA-LIVING-AND-BREATHING BTS economy is … I … 😩😩😩.

“They never meet”, “they don’t like each other anymore”, “He obviously doesn’t care / never cared” and all that shit … like, I’m not going to keep repeating myself but I am also very keen to understand how according to some of you a non confirmed, potentially gay couple, of great relevance, in a somewhat homophobic country should act?

That being said, let’s get back to what I quickly wanted to point out, which is the following. I quickly and roughly made this table concentrating on our boys activities in 2023 during chapter 2, with some exceptions:

Purple activity: Happened in 2022, but relevant to this person in their Chapter 2

Celebrity/Fame related: These are all names I tried to recall off the top of my head, most likely not accurate, but a gross approximation (so feel free to not take this part seriously at all)

Magenta activity: Is for those members who haven’t yet released anything for their chapter 2 … and then there is Namjoon who might be having a Chapter 2 pt.2?

I started doing this throwing in as much stuff as I could remember. The places where I put a P are my predictions (dark purple background is non-activity). As you keep looking at this table you’ll see that I didn’t even finish it, the magazine section is completely empty for example and as you might have noticed, I colored JK’s participation in Letter and his unconventional promotion of JM in a different color because other members have promoted JM but in a much more “conventional way”. THIS we all have noticed, and though it standouts in itself, regardless of the intended audience of Letter or the purpose behind JK going on a 1 hour JM binge - What JK did is NOT YOUR EVERYDAY RUN OF THE MILL BANGTAN OCCURRENCE. FIGHT ME.

The main thing that this table should sort of point out - DESPITE IT’S GROSS INACCURACY - is how it seems to be that for the most part, given that Jin was already gone before 2023, the tannies were sort of split in 2 groups of 3, like sort of subunits part of me feels like the way I’ve ordered them is the way they are going to go MS, I know, I put Joonie last … There is a method behind my madness, but it is worth pointing out that is indeed just MY madness, so for all we know Joonie could be the next to go:

JiYoonMin

NamTaeKook

Mind you, despite being the nonchalant kings we love them to be, they are still a force to be reckoned with and as such they have to do some serious planning of almost anything work related. By the looks of it, we are going to have a video from Jin for every important day of the year, or Disney Documentaries that will soon replace the memory of Disney Channel in our minds, etc, etc, etc … as I said: SOME SERIOUS FORWARD PLANNING.

Ironically enough the only thing that seems a bit off from the meticulous planning are all of JK’s lives, weverse post, and such and that ALSO should make you think a bit …🤡 . So all the, JM only mentioning Hobi and Yoongi as people he hangs out with the most, or JK hanging out with Tae a lot and Joon as really , AT THE VERY LEAST TO ME, is just so subunity, like … am I the only one, who, despite missing Jikook interactions, as I knew I would during this period, is not really worried at all? I really would love to know; really, just curious...

Always respectfully yours,

Marengo.

[not-goldy]

If you feel like turning into a Jk solo, good for you. You already speak like one. And that's exactly what the anon was pointing out. You'll lean more towards JK and will drop JM/Tae for JK. And what you wrote just proves that.

And your whole essay about how JK doesn't deserve all the heat. Well, neither does JM or Tae. That's what your anons are pointing out.

No one needs to go into Jikook or taekook spaces to disrespect JK. Just peep into report accounts and you'll see it. Literally so many people who were jikookers/Tkkrs before are now calling themselves JK solos. Most wouldn't care about that if they weren't calling JM/Tae animal names now, or throwing slurs.

Btw, no one cares about IG followers. Lol. Even Kardashians are most followed, doesn't mean they are most liked people in the world. Everyone knows how IG following and likes work, let's be real. IG followers and likes are irrelevant to this discussion of shippers.

No one cares bout IG followers says the Anon who has no idea how influencer marketing and social wealth generation works 🥲

Me: Jk doesn't deserve the heat

The persons bringing the heat: well neither does Jimin

Do you see the irony in that or do I point it out to you.

If you feel your fave doesn't deserve the heat feel free to flame it out rather than go into spaces he's revered to ignite the heat that puts a target onto his back??

Seems like a fair advice. I don't know why yall fail to take accountability for your actions when yall spend a considerable amount of time pretending yall are holding other members accountable for stuff they did when they were children.

I speak like a JK Solo coming from a JM solo is the biggest compliment ever thank you😌

I try🤭

Just so you know I can do far worse than sound like jk solo and if you do come for Jeon Jungkook you will see the worst of me.

Yall go low

Don't mind if I go lower🙂