#JAY MEANS SO MUCH TO ME
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GOD! HEAD IN HANDS! Jay was a literal traitor, she just joined Chip to get into the pirate world but then she became friends with Chip and Gillion and they went through so much together and took an oath to be a crew and co-captains AND SHE WAS A TRAITOR THROUGH ALL OF THAT! She was lying but she was really only lying to herself towards the end, even Chip could tell that she didn’t really believe in the navy and the role she was playing anymore
“It meant nothing to me”
“I don’t believe that”
She was a traitor to the Riptide crew, but by the time of the BLOCK she was a traitor to RAFT and her family
#jrwi#jrwi thoughts#riptide#Jay ferin#jrwi chip#SORRY JUST GOING INSANE#JAY MEANS SO MUCH TO ME#AND JUST#AHHHHHH
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My gift for @thereal-true-ogilvie! Hope you like it!
@jrwi-art-exchange
#jrwi#jrwi fanart#jrwi gillion#jrwi jay#jrwi chip#jrwi show#jrwi podcast#jrwi riptide#i cant remember the ship the ship name for the three of them sadly#gart#the comic may have been meant to be a couple more pages long but i didn't really how it ended so this is it#these three mean so much to me#DUDE TUMBLR ABSOLUTELY RUINED THE QUALITY OF IT WHY IS IT SO BLURRY
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i love og3
#ninjago#lego ninjago#cole brookstone#zane julien#jay walker#jay ninjago#cole ninjago#zane ninjago#aphid’s ninjashits#they mean so much to me#this is my 3rd time trying to post this HELPPP!!!
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Fascinating how Polites, the character who is the personification of Odysseus' optimism and is only in 5 songs, is more grieved and appreciated than Eurylochus, a character who is his own person and is in 11 songs.
#I'm being a hater but meh :/ it's just kind of baffling to me. Don't get me wrong. Polites plays his purpose for the musical#and it is neat how Jay took one line from him in the Odyssey and got silly with it and basically created his own character.#but like... All we know about Polites is that he's nice... that's literally it. He's Odysseus' optimism personified. which is why he died.#And it's not as though it isn't sad that he died. It's just that we got to know Eurylochus longer and truly get to know him more#is it because with how little people know about Polites other than “uwu sweetiepie” people like that so they can headcanon more?#is it because Eurylochus is “too complex” and therefore “not likable”??#idk. I'm gonna be burned at the stake for this I know it. but I don't understand it.#like during “Love in Paradise” it wasn't “Open Arms” that made me sad. It was “How much longer...” and “Waiting...” that made me sad#I mean I'm an “UwU sweetiepie” too (not right now though clearly lol) so maybe I'm “meh” about him because he's just “me”?#Mad rambles#shot by odysseus#epic the musical#polites#eurylochus#hm. maybe I shouldn't tag this but I'm actually really kind of curious as to why people cling to him so much?
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sorry but do you ever think about the fact that the bernard we have today is a direct amalgamation of everything that happened in his past and i know that sound like such an obvious statement to say but it actually kills me to know that you can draw a direct line from who he is today all the way back to that sixteen year old boy who watched his best friend bleed out. like it is the defining moment in his life. it fundamentally shaped who he is and the person he's become. he is the bernard we know and love not despite the grieves shooting but because of it. because the gangs all got together and shot up his school. because tim walked out of that room with nothing but a baseball bat. because his darla got shot. because he watched her gasp and cry as she died. because he watched the blood coagulate around the wound. because he sat there and held her hand as her life drained out of her. because he walked into school that day with a joke he knew would make her laugh and her nose would scrunch up and she'd snort a little and tim would roll his eyes at him and call him ridiculous and instead he walked out with a bloody white shirt, blood under his fingernails, and two friends less. because, even now, almost half a decade out from the shooting, he thinks that if he closes his eyes, he will always be that stupid, scared little sixteen year old, holding the cooling body of dead best friend.
#there is a direct throughline from the boy we meet in robin 121 all the way to man tim reconnects with in urban legends 4#like maybe you guys have other interpretations of it but to me this is *the* defining moment in his life#and that's not to say that he perpetually bound to this traumatic event but it impacted him sooo much that his life is now divided#before shooting and after shooting#like you cannot tell me him falling into the cult was just something that happened to him#it happened bc he was in such a bad place from watching his friend die and then on top of that he loses contact with tim!!!!#this is his canon event!!!!#if you took it away from him if you made it so that he never had to go through it#the bernard we would get would not be the same bernard we got in urb leg4 and tdr#does it not make you want to chew on drywall that to get to the bear we love he has watch his darla die first????#head in hands head in hands#and it wasnt like batman came immediately after darls died!!! iirc they had to wait a little before he came#which means!!!!! alll those kids but bear esp had to sit in that room with darls' dead body until batman came!!!!!#do you think he cried and held her hand until batman came??? do you think he begged her not to go??? or do you think he told her#stories and made promises of all the things they were gonna do after they got out??? do you think he put pressure on the wound and#watched as the blood soaked through the jacket they were using as a towel??? and when she finally passed do you think he bit his lip#clean through to stop himself from wailing? bc if he's too loud the gunmen will hear them and he cannot be the reason jay from#history dies#auuuugh i cant fucking do this anymore#bernard dowd#timbern#darla aquista#louis grieve trio
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antoine + étoiles insane moments, p.2. aka the ass saga. p1 here
transcript + context for some of the clips below
[Video Transcript:
[First clip plays.]
Rivenzi: You want to see Etoiles’ ass, of course…
Antoine: Yeah, I’m gonna stare at your ass, Etoiles…
Etoiles: Fuck, what dread, during Popcorn [a talkshow Etoiles had been invited on the previous week], when I went up to the map and you said that, and I thought ‘whoa—‘
Antoine: Sorry
[Second clip plays: the moment during Popcorn]
PA/Domingo: Antoine Daniel has posted a tweet for us: ‘I wanted to look at this map of Africa, but Etoiles’ ass in the shape of a standing bell is driving me crazy. Smiley face with eyes in the shape of hearts.’
[Third clip plays: a continuation of the first clip.]
Antoine: Sorry, bro…
Ponce: Oh but that tweet, besides
Rivenzi: A standing bell…
Antoine: What’s more is that I never tweet and when I do it’s to tweet this sort of shit
Ponce: That’s exactly what I told myself. When PA read the tweet, I thought to myself, ‘but he never tweets!’ And he tweets to talk about Etoiles’ ass
Antoine: There needs to be a good reason, you see
[Fourth clip plays: a clip from the Team du Lundi’s minecraft server.]
JDG: Someone (in chat) said, ‘I can’t tell whether the atmosphere is good tonight or—‘
Antoine: It sucks, it sucks
Florence: You don’t need to ask every time, it always sucks
Baghera: Always sucks. Especially when Etoiles talks about ass [which had been a previous topic of discussion for him that night]
Antoine: Stooop, I enjoy it
Mynthos: You enjoy it?
JDG: It’s true tonight that it’s more weird than bad
Antoine: I like it when Etoiles talks about ass….
[Fifth clip plays: a second and different clip from Popcorn.]
Etoiles: —you’re not allowed to tell me that [Xari claimed to not know much about cinema]. I know you, I studied, because you’re my rival [in pop culture]. I really enjoy what you do in life, Xari, and you’re really knowledgeable about cinema
Antoine: What do you mean he’s your rival? And I’m just shit?
Etoiles: You, you’re my lover
Antoine: Oh yeah, sorry, my bad
PA/Domingo: One of the three is gonna die soon. There’s a whole situation, there’s a whole lore
[Sixth clip plays: a clip from the QSMP.]
Antoine: Don’t you want to get married, dude?
Etoiles: Well, I don’t have the time to fuck
Antoine: What the fuck?!
Etoiles: I don’t have time to fuck, dude. I just need to kill everyone
Antoine: No but just a marriage, you see. You’ve watched Game of Thrones— you haven’t watched Game of Thrones, you can’t know how marriages work in that series
Etoiles: I’ve watched it, but I’m married to the street, dude. I can’t give out my heart that quickly
Antoine: Yeah but you can give out your ass quickly, no?
Etoiles: No, frankly, my ass—
Antoine: What the fuck?!
Etoiles: Giving out your ass takes time, dude
Antoine: What the fuck…
Etoiles: Then again, I need to think about it. I’ll give you my answer. I need to discuss, and everything
Antoine: I’m tired of getting betrayed. You get married with someone else—
Etoiles: Never in a million years!
Antoine: —it’s like yesterday. Apparently Maximus got the mic from his ass removed while I wasn’t there. I was supposed to be the one to do it
Etoiles: Oh okay, so I’m your second choice?
[Overlapping]
Antoine: No! It was just to help him—
Etoiles: No, but, okay
Antoine: He got— listen—
Etoiles: There’s no problem!
Antoine: Fuck, nevermind
Etoiles: There’s no issue! Oh, so you’re opening my chest and stealing?
Antoine: I was just looking! Out of curiosity
Etoiles: Yeah, that’s it
Antoine: I don’t even understand what’s in it
Etoiles: Yeah, out of curiosity. Dude, your opinion on my cave?
Antoine: Well frankly it’s big
end Video Transcript.]
#antoine daniel#etoiles#étoiles#jay clips#qsmp#<- this is an appropriate tag wait till the end . it makes up half the video too#4/08/2024#le fameux bol tibétain d’étoiles…. traduit pour les inters#and i call it a saga here because the clips here span from early 2021 to mid 2023#you know the first clips are old because antoine is still using twt at that point#not included here; a zlan 2024 clip where étoiles yells ‘fuck me in the ass’ (french) at antoine 👍#also not included ; a serveur du lundi clip where étoiles jokes about antoine having a leash at home#antoine denying this and étoiles saying ‘well i spent a weekend at your place’#????????? yeah sure why not#ALSO re the qsmp clip antoine brought up the marriage possibility after hearing about the upcoming spiderbit wedding <3#bro sounds so fucking needy in the clip it’s sending me . how can i make this into qantoine lore……. this WAS the period where things were#slowly changing within the french dynamic (aka . they were meeting and talking to new people) and qantoine was growing increasingly paranoi#about trusting people then……. him trying to hold onto someone he loves dearly because he’s not sure if he can keep up with him…..#anw some other translation type notes read if ur interested in that:#wasn’t quite sure on the best way to translate ‘l’angoisse’ here . i went with ‘dread’#literally it translates to ‘anxiety/anguish/dread/etc’ but it’s used in a very flippant way in slang#so anguish felt a bit strong here . when someone says ‘oh l’angoisse’ about something it’s usually to mean an uncomfortable or unusual#scenario . but the intensity of that very much varies#OH ALSO : if anyone wants the sources to each of these clips lmk#i may just add them here later when im less tired#insuline & nicotine
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my whole heart <3
#hes so beautiful#no words cannot express how much he means to me#he means the world to me#he deserves everything good#im so proud of him<3#my handsome boy forever<3#theres no one like him#my heart will always have unlimited love for him#enhypen#enhypen jay#park jongseong#╭┈◦•◦❥•◦nessa talks!#♡ ͎. 。˚nessa<3jay
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//JRWI RIPTIDE SPOILERS
talk to us
#jrwi riptide#jrwi#jrwi fanart#gillion tidestrider#jrwi chip#jay ferin#jrwi riptide spoilers#haven’t decided for realsies if i like this one but it’s ok#i’ll definitely find something wrong with it after i post#they mean so much to me#like…they love each other 😭 so much😭 i want them to be happy😭#albatrio#ok here’s some little things#jays leg is straight cuz i can’t imagine she can bend it all that much#chip has some gray streaks cuz i think he lost some melanin when he came back to life (rip)#that’s also why his freckles are gone#also also he doesn’t have a little highlight in his eye. his zest for life 😞 gone#gill i think likes to wrap his tail around people he trusts and he wants to give some comfort to chip#and they’re both leaning on him/touching him to warm him up#im so excited for the next ep it’s crazy#also 110? crazy episode the tree was so funny#lavrose art
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i just got shot
#GOOD MORNING TO ME?#LOOK AT HIM#I MEAN THEM#I MISS THEM SO MUCH#WAIT#NEED A REUNION ASAP#top gun maverick#miles teller#jay ellis#lewis pullman#monica barbaro#glen powell#danny ramirez#greg tarzan davis#manny jacinto#bashir salahuddin#tgm cast#mine
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When I first heard There Are Other Ways, I was a little disappointed by the fact that Circe didn’t successfully seduce Odysseus, considering the huge Greek Mythology nerd I am.
Bear with me.
Then, I played the saga, and that song, for my wonderful mother tonight. About halfway through, I gasped.
The story is accurate to the Homeric version: he confronts her (clandestinely at first), she fights back, he pulls the sword.
But she’s not afraid. Of course she isn’t.
Why would an immortal being, with the rage and power of commanding a million different beasts if her Plan A goes down, be afraid of a measly man with a flimsy toothpick to her throat, just because he ate a flower and said “Be afraid!”?
That’s right! She wouldn’t.
Because Jay didn’t submit to the blatant misogyny of the tale.
Read this article for incredible information, if you please. It changed the way I saw Circe’s story.
If Circe cowered, simply because a man held a sword to her throat, only then would she have seduced him (if we’re going ultra-canon with the storyline, which Jay isn’t), which would have, yet again, thrown off the balance of power.
Circe could give less of a shit about the sword, in the song. She thinks he’s pretty hot, and maybe she’s manipulating him into coming to bed with her so she can trick him, so she offers a tryst or two. Here, if you read the article, she is throwing off the nature of men and women by being the active sexual partner.
He refuses, too enamored with Penelope, and shuns his curiosity in her. You can hear how it pains him, it’s a struggle to say no. But he does. He’s strong, he’s no god, cheating on his wife for the sake of sex appeal. He’s just a man.
He begs. That’s the thing that got me. Not her, him.
“So I beg you, Circe, grant us mercy, and let us puppets leave~”
Then, Circe offers to help him — not because she’s restoring the nature of being submissive — but because she has empathy and compassion for the man. She helps him because he’s proved himself, to be weary, and faithful, and human. She knows the feeling of love.
So, yes. So many layers. Like an onion, worthy of making you cry.
1. Jay is spitting in the face of misogyny and gender roles, and having her help him because she empathizes. Because she’s in power.
2. It’s sort of a jab, if interpreted a certain way, at sexual assault. He says no, and he holds true to it. Even though everything is telling him to give in, to let it happen, he refuses, and remains as sure as he can be.
3. It shows how very human Odysseus is. Athena forgot it, and somehow held him to it. Even the men forget it. But he never does. There is only so much he can do.
This is my favorite saga so far.
#epic the musical#I am so in love with this theory#this means so much to me#feminism#jorge rivera herrans#jay herrans#epic the circe saga#circe saga#Circe epic#epic circe saga#speculation#theory#interpretation#greek mythology#greek myths#the odyssey#odysseus#circe#homer
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the riptide pirates doing oddly domestic things.
they make breakfast all together. none of them are all that good at it and earl screams at them for burning food but they do it with smiles, grinning and laughing while they make inedible slop.
once chip woke up to the smell of burning and yelling only to find out gillion and jay burnt pancakes meant for him, a little surprise. he ate them anyway (and regretted it immensely) and drey bullied him for weeks.
they do each other's hair.
gillion particularly loves braiding, once jay taught him how to do it and every second he can find, he weaves little braids into chip's hair alongside the beads he has, and braids all of jay's hair into one of two braids, because she'll complain about the how frizzy it gets otherwise. chip's head in gillion's lap while the two talk on and on about whatever they can think of, gillion weaving his hands through his hair with love and care. the occassional butt in from jay as she does gillion's hair, because she's content listening unless her co-captains are being idiots. queen demands chip specifically do her hair, so they can match, something he's happy to do. gryffon never lets them close to his fur, but on one specific night they manage to convince him and give him bows and everything, just because they can.
they sleep together.
literally.
on nights where things are hard for jay, when she wakes in the middle of the night screaming, she'll find gillion and chip are already at her side ready to help her fall back asleep. they make her feel safe, and it goes for the rest of the co-captains.
when ollie was on the ship, he taught them games they've never heard of or games they were all too busy growing up too fast to ever get to play.
they're a family.
a weird, unconventional family, not built by blood but by the bonds and love and trust their crew has gained over time. the riptide pirates are a family. and they love the little moments with one another more than anything.
#toby's shouting into the void again#just roll with it#jrwi riptide#headcanons#they make me sick#do you know how much the riptide pirates mean to me DO YOU??#jay ferin#chip jrwi#gillion tidestrider#drey ferin#ollie jrwi#jrwi gryffon#jrwi queen#chiptune jrwi#fnc jrwi#mentions of the ships anyway#if you wanna take it that way#NOT polypirates though#i could have added so much more#maybe someday i will
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Thinking about Chip being asked what his last name is after an introduction and him pausing for a moment, not because he doesn’t have one, but because he can’t decide if he should say James, Rose, Lafayette, Ferin, or Tidestrider. And in that moment he knows he’s loved and has a family and belongs somewhere, not by any arbitrary means, but because he’s wanted and loved and cared for
#jrwi#jrwi thoughts#riptide#jrwi chip#chip James#<- that tag will forever destroy me#I just love chip so much#he means the world to me#jrwi riptide#Arlin James#captain rose#lizzie lafayette#Jay ferin#gillion tidestrider#having sad chibo thoughts tonight#just roll with it#chip bastard#<- no more!! chip with too many last names my beloved#chip lastname#chip jrwi
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Hobie who helps his s/o take down their hair
Hobie who has wash days with his s/o (with a custom playlist just for that day too)
Hobie who loves short, mid length, and long hair
Hobie who helps you cut your hair or find some who can if you decide to do a big chop
Hobie who helps you retwist your dreads or wicks
Hobie who helps his s/o take down their braids/crochets/etc.
Hobie who loves making you charms for your hair.
Hobie who will shave your hair if you ask him to
Hobie who will steal the hair supplies that you need because both of you refuse to pay all that money
Hobie who loves it when you switch up your wigs
DO YOU SEE MY VISION HERE
#hair means so much to me#sharing this with someone is such an intimate thing#im growijg more and more insane with each line btw#I AM SCREAMING ALONE IN MY CAR#AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH#hobie brown x reader#hobie brown x black!reader#hobie brown x black reader#hobie x reader#hobie x black!reader#black reader#SOMEBODY PLEASE#I HAVE SO MANY IDEAS AND NO MOTIVATION TO WRITE#hobie brown#jay and the spiders#hobie imagine#cory writes
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Something something- I’m very insane about these pirates- blah blah blah- they deserve to have comfort and be soft- mememememe- I’m very happy about this piece :)!!!
#jrwi gillion fanart#gillion tidestrider fanart#gillion fanart#jrwi gillion#jrwi#jrwi fanart#jrwi riptide fanart#jrwi riptide#jrwi chip#jrwi chip fanart#jrwi chibo#jrwi Jay#jrwi jay fanart#jay ferin#jay ferin fanart#chip no last name#riptide fanart#they deserve to be soft#they deserve to have comfort#*SHAKES THEM*#THEY MEAN SO MUCH TO ME#THEY HAVE TO BE OKAY#I COULD WRITE ESSAYS ABOUT THEM#sketchies jrwi insanity#sketchies art#I will cry if people don’t see this#maybe#we will see-
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thought about navyseal too hard
#bheart art#jrwiblr i miss you you're my favorite safe space i could never bring this to twitter#but jay and gill mean SO MUCH TO ME in so many ways#jrwi navyseal#idk if i'll finish this
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wano has become a favorite arc of mine for different reasons and it also gave me a lot of zolu brainworms to mull over, so here I go (again). spoilers for some of the big reveals in the arc so beware
despite getting separated shortly after reuniting, yasuie's execution once again highlighted how similarly minded zoro and luffy are - like zoro, luffy gets pissed at the sight of ppl laughing at yasuie after he's killed, though they both learn it's due to the effects of the smile fruits. and despite the fact that doing so could put their plan in jeopardy (hence why sanji yells at zoro to cool his head), luffy actively cheers zoro on (from the distance) when he goes after orochi in retaliation
a nice tiny moment is also back when they're together. luffy was worried since big mom appeared in wano yet jimbei (who had stayed in whole cake island to fend her off along his former crew so the straw hats could escape) hadn't arrived. albeit zoro wasn't even part of the WCI arc events, he's quick to reassure luffy:
although I'm not certain whether law was referring to them specifically or not, there's a part during the discussion of the raid where he says there's two idiots who, no matter how much planning goes into it, are likely to charge straight in regardless. then, of course, this happens:
(so yeah. I think they're probably the idiots)
and funnily enough, zoro doesn't get lost for once. not only does he find luffy, any intention zoro had of (ironically, considering he was causing a ruckus himself) chastising luffy for messing up the infiltration goes out the window when he tells zoro about the spilled oshiruko
this is a direct callback to their interactions with tama when they first reunited in wano. it's cute how attached they got to her and yeah, they're both stupidly reckless at times but this is one occasion in which it isn't just for the sake of chaotic shenanigans - it's them getting angry at how these ppl are disrespecting what tama and the oshiruko stand for. to those present, it seems foolish/weird since they don't understand the context behind it, but it's the kind of understanding that goes on between luffy and zoro precisely bc of the moments they share together.
there's some good panels of both worrying about each other after getting hurt and zoro carrying an injured luffy to safety. they're soooo.
this was pretty good too:
their plan to jump to the roof to face kaido ultimately fails here but it's still cute that zoro's so willing now to just cling to and let luffy carry him around like this (arlong park zoro has come a long way lol). it also says a lot abt luffy's trust in both the crew and zoro that he was fine letting them in charge below while he and zoro went to face kaido together.
the x drake ordeal was kind of funny but it served to show exactly why zoro complements luffy so well. luffy tends to be very trusting toward others, even those who might've started out as enemies which usually works out fine but still. zoro's quick to remind luffy that the guy's a traitor and unreliable, and (along with some of the other straw hats) refuses to blindly accept the impromptu alliance. it's interesting though, that zoro doesn't entirely disregard luffy's opinion nor x drake's help per se - he's just understandably wary of drake's true intentions (pointing out that he's still hiding where he stands in the whole conflict) and eventually agrees to team up. love the balance of it ngl.
that said, the actual fight on the roof has to be one of my favorite parts! it's probably one of the most obvious occasions in which zoro's role as luffy's first mate/right hand man and how much luffy relies on him too shines through. there's zoro slashing big mom and kaido's fire attacks so they wouldn't hurt luffy, taking the lead in attempting to stave off kaido and big mom's joint attack (and succeeding for a bit) despite the fact that he's got three powerful captains beside him, and several panels of him protecting luffy. this one was particularly crazy
this is pretty much zoro's equivalent to "if you wanna kill him you'll have to kill ME first". insane. I love them so much. zoro may be the one to have more instances in which he gets to demonstrate his loyalty and protectiveness towards luffy rather than the opposite - but knowing luffy's the one who usually risks himself for others in grandiose ways, I find it very compelling that zoro gets to be the one to protect him in these important moments, that luffy trusts him to do it and even thanks him for it here in this arc. to me, there's a reason why, out of the whole crew, zoro was the only one to take part in this particular confrontation. mutual trust/understanding/respect etc are at the core of their relationship. it's a two way thing.
fast forward to zoro vs king and OF COURSE this mf thought of luffy when facing the guy.
I posted about this the other day, but something similar happened during zoro's duel against mihawk. when the latter asks what drives zoro to fight despite being so weak, it's this exact part of his meeting with luffy at the marine base that he recalls. zoro has certainly driven himself to get stronger for the crew's sake and for his dream, but it's clear that luffy (and his own promise to kuina) is one of zoro's biggest motivators. he's also the one person zoro has cast aside that very dream of his for so... (thriller bark zoro you live in my heart always).
when zoro wins against king, too, it's his promise to never lose that he recalls. the promise he made to luffy. regardless of how you interpret their relationship, it's obvious luffy means a lot to zoro and moments like these don't let the readers forget it.
that said, this was perhaps the most insane part to me:
just when you think zolu can't get more trope-y than it already is, the manga says: wait a fucking second. canon sun/moon, heaven/hell, god/demon zolu.
I was already spoiled about these bits, though they were exciting to read through anyway. I think it's very curious that both zoro's ancestry and his conqueror's haki reveal happened during the arc where the true nature of luffy's devil fruit comes to light and his awakening into joyboy/nika takes place. can't say for sure what oda's planning for them in the future, but wano is probably the biggest glimpse so far as to the kind of figures luffy and zoro are bound to become (or are already becoming) in one piece's universe.
joyboy luffy being considered a hero to wano only rivaled by shimotsuki ryuma is also so... oof, knowing that ryuma (also called god of the blade) is zoro's ancestor, whose zombie he faced back in thriller bark and whose sword shusui he wielded for a while after that, and that he resembles physically too (both being one-eyed samurai/swordsmen). there's a lot more parallels to be drawn between them, and zoro's conqueror's haki adds a whole new layer to their relationship, but a detail that's fascinating to me is that both zoro's presence and joyboy's awakening in wano are hailed as the work of fate at different points, by kawamatsu and zunesha respectively.
overall there seems to be a thread of "fate" that's tying the story together from the void century to roger's era to the present but choice is also an important aspect imo. zoro and luffy are an example, bc in spite of how their stories have turned out to be somewhat intertwined... it was luffy's choice to seek out the demon pirate hunter and rope him into his crew. it was zoro's choice to join him, to make a promise that'd tie his own dream to luffy's. there's a potential that neither of them could've reached if they hadn't come together to sail in that dinghy and formed an entire crew (a family!) that have all of them journeying towards their dreams, always relying on and striving to become better for one another. all of these little choices for luffy and zoro led them up to this point and onwards, which tbh is just really fucking good.
#zolu#tp#long post#yes it's me....again. and with a longer post yet#there's a lot more I wanted to mention djdjdkdkd but I think it was too much for a single post#and I didn't want to derail much#can't say I wasn't a little disappointed bc wano felt like it could've been The zoro arc yknow#still. there was A Lot going on in the plot to squeeze something more and honestly ajdjdjd I think oda kinda botched the possibility#of a rescue zoro arc in this particular angle simply bc there is no way that current zoro would ever leave luffy and the crew#much less for a legacy he's never even known (and technically still doesn't). zoro's loyalty was already put to test in a way#back in thriller back I mean. and we all know how that went so yeah#anyway that's exactly the stuff that could warrant its own post djdjdj but long story short#I LOVE ZOLU SO MUCH#jay reads op
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