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Some more Okita comics + twin dragons au + Emmet is Drayton's father/ The twins are Drayden's children hc
#Twin dragons au#my art#pokemon#pkmn#fakemon#fkmn#my oc#subway boss emmet#subway boss ingo#emmet#Ingo#Pla Ingo#Pla oc#legends arceus oc#legends arceus#Zekrom#Reshiram#Drayton#Drayden#Ingo is zekrom#Emmet is reshiram#Not my au
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Submas art! With a very obvious theme to it heheh.
Honestly I wasn't sure what orientation to put this image in since it basically works from all directions lol. Has that trippy quality to it!
#submas#submas fanart#fanart#my art#pokemon submas#pokemon fanart#submas emmet#subway boss emmet#submas ingo#subway boss ingo#reshiram#zekrom
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baby guys love for life
#submas#pokemon#pokemon black and white#pokemon bw#kudari#nobori#ingo#emmet#subway boss ingo#subway boss emmet#subway master ingo#subway master emmet#reshiram#zekrom#reshiram emmet#zekrom ingo#baby dragon au#twin dragon au#twin dragons au#babymas#meme#funny
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Am I the only one who doesn't associate Zekrom with Ingo and Reshiram with Emmet but do it the other way around? Well, perhaps this will become an unpopular opinion, but, if you stop to think about it there are quite a few points that can support this theory. Let's check them out! To begin with, it's the legendary dragon Zekrom the one who appears on the cover of the White version of the game, while Reshiram does the same on the Black version, which would indicate that they actually represent their opposite color. Such small detail is already important in itself, not just the basic color of the dragons per se. Also we all know that Zekrom's associated element is the electric type, like Emmet's Eeleektros, while Reshiram's is the fire type, like Ingo's Chandelure, both being the most representative pokemons of the Subway Bosses.
Although the issue of ideologies of each dragon is used to link them with each brother among the fandom, "ideals" being the one typically attributed to Ingo for his passionate way of encouraging trainers, while for Emmet it is the "truth" for his direct way of communicating, this could work much better the other way around. If we have learned anything from Ingo on Pokemon Legends Arceus, it is that this man is full of existential doubts that lead him to want to get closer to the player in order to know more about himself. That's it, the truth about his origins. But he already had some tendency to this type of behavior long before, as it was evident in the first Black & White games.
"Where is my destination? I've kept thinking, and I've learned one thing. That is, you cannot know what happens after winning without winning." Through such questions, Ingo seeks to reach a real conclusion, his own truths. And perhaps in our idealized image of him we forget that he can also be frank and direct, without the need to embellish words with lies.
"However, it is difficult to win unless you and your partner are in total sync." On the other hand, and as we have said before, the frankness with which Emmet expresses his opinions makes him look like an open-minded character, sincere, making this seem (for many people) to be his only notable characteristic, despite the fact that it's kinda obvious the way in which he greatly idealizes Pokémon battles.
"This time, I am really serious. Really serious. Because if a battle is not serious, it is not fun." He firmly believes that there is a way to go about Pokémon battles, and that way is by giving it your all in them, and in an ideal world, everyone would have fun battling just as he does, but this is not always the case. Emmet clearly expresses how he believes things should be, and he's also aware that his own victory may not only be due to his skill but also to circumstantial elements or, put another way, luck. So he also idealizes the player's own defeat when it occurs, having enough consideration to make it seem like something unfourtunate. Further proof that the fandom has been associating the wrong dragon with the wrong twin can be found in the legend of the twin heroes, where it was the oldest who pursued the truth, while the youngest pursued the concept of ideals.
This birth order also corresponds to Ingo and Emmet, Ingo being the eldest of the both and Emmet the youngest.
That's why despite being white, I think Reshiram suits to Ingo much better and the same for Emmet regarding the black dragon Zekrom. All of these points put together carry much more sense than simply thinking that each dragon's ideologies relates to a brother just by the main color of his outfit. Although this, in the end, does not have much relevance either, since canonically there is no relationship between these legendary Pokémon and the Subway bosses, other than the simple fact of playing with mere chromatic issues. Still, it's always fun to speculate, right?
#submas#サブマス#subway master ingo#subway boss ingo#subway master emmet#subway boss emmet#reshiram#zekrom#submasposting#submas positivity#character study
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ALL ABOARD STICKER COLLAB PART 3!
Coming March 9th at 10am PST
New year, new sticker project. This time there are a total of 4 different sticker sheets to choose from. These were lovingly made by 30 different of your favorite artists.
On the day of the launch I will reblog this post and make a separate post with the links to the listings. You can also sign up for my email list if you wish to get notifications and the links directly emailed to you .
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Sticker Details:
Each sheet is A5 (5.8inx8.3in)
These are waterproof Vinyl Stickers
These are Limited Edition/ Limited Run (we won't sell them again)
Each sheet is $5. You can buy them individually or in sets. There are 3 different sets available (see graphics)
Final sticker sheets will not have the watermark
Sticker Sheet Collaborators:
@divatheeva @acatpiestuff @nartothelar @vivi-mire @critterbitter @peachy-kun @fronomeeps @cecilioque @tangential-hooligan @agent-gladhand @sapphlikessubmas @alubearsworld @ingo-ingoing-ingone @waywardstation @guppyfish77 @fishmanfishman-lildumpy @creatrixanimi @drag0n0fbutt3r @choochooboss @anime-grimmy @cardinal-crossing @tjs-stuffs @jenasu @bluebellowl @ann-chovi @faestorian @mepomepo @conmenn Nissa @draken-rotzi
Need a Place to put your sticker collection? I will also be running my reusable sticker books during sticker preorders.
#submas#ingo#emmet#kudari#nobori#stickers#subway boss ingo#subway boss emmet#subway boss kudari#subway boss nobori#elesa#zekrom#reshiram
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Legendary Prince Brothers ◻️🔥👑⚡️◼️
Melli & Volo: X
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Your ideals. bring harm.
We will not. allow this. to continue.
Reshiram | Zekrom | Giratina | Arceus | Kyurem
#submas#subway boss ingo#zekrom#my art#submas ingo#ingo#nobori#pokemon#electricity is hard to draw but i think it turned out better than i expected!#aside from the electricity this one was SO FUN to color#unnamed possession au#au#(this WOULD have been for day 23 of kudaugust (ideals)...#but considering emmet is not in it i don't think it counts)
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A brief thought on the parallels of the Subway Bosses, The Tao Trio, and Warden Ingo's place
@waywardstation just made an amazing post on her thoughts of Warden Ingo's parallels to Kyurem. Nothing in the game directly connects the two, just like nothing in the game connects the Subway Bosses to the Dragons in Generation V. But the connections are still there regardless, because Game Freak made sure to fill Unova with so much symbolism.
These are the basic thoughts that connect each Man to their Dragon.
Subway Boss Ingo - Ideals; Aspire to greatness, never give up in your journey
Subway Boss Emmet - Truth; You are who you are, there is no need for a mask
Warden Ingo - Void; What is there when you lose who you are? No drive for greatness, nothing to mask. Ideals, Truths, nothing matters except the ground beneath your feet.
In each game that they appear, Ingo and Emmet are relatively flat characters. In Gen 5, they have enough personality to stick in your mind, and nothing past. And in PLA, Ingo's whole personality is "I lost my memory and am depressed, but have hope". Instead, we end up looking at word choice, and in the Subway Bosses cases, other media.
Subway Boss Ingo, across most media, embodies Ideals. He has his eyes to the future, always pushing himself and others to continue onwards. He frames battling and training as a journey ("What can I see after winning, winning, and winning? Where is my destination?"; "Your talent has brought you to the destination called Victory!"; "There is no terminal called End in your life!"), most often when he is victorious. He seeks to create his Ideal self, and wants to push others to do the same.
This comes up in Pokemon Masters EX as well, where the "no terminal" line returns (in an appropriately spooky tone), he also spends time in the Day With Ingo story event talking about how he seeks to better himself and "break through the mold of [his] past self". This event is also the first time he mentions the phrase "greater heights", which appears another 6 times in various snippets in Masters. And finally, we have a triple whammy of travel metaphors for growth in his level up lines.
For Subway Boss Emmet, his connection to Truth is admittedly a bit more tenuous. He doesn't have any tendency for truth-seeking or investigations (outside of the famous behavior in the manga where he likes to eavesdrop on drama, which gossip isn't exactly truthful), but what he has is a strong showing of being truthful, even if he ends up being blunt or disrespectful.
As a consequence of his writing in Japanese giving him a very casual way of speaking, the English translation has him speak in shorter clips, just the bare essentials. The naked truths of his thoughts. He doesn't seek the Truth, or give a Universal Truth; Emmet is True to himself and to those around him. (As a side note, I love when people give power to other usages of the word True through Reshiram. I did it in my fic with a turn of phrase, but I've seen it done beautifully in other works too).
In Pokemon Special, Emmet doesn't hide the truth of why they asked White to train on the Battle Subway ("We're studying you as an example of a Trainer who gets overwhelmed and loses every battle!" "That's not nice, Emmet."), not because he is intending to be rude (Ok, a little bit), but because that *is* what they are using her for. In the games, he speaks of how Pokemon battles can be decided on luck ("I won against you. But I think I just got lucky."), because the Truth of the matter is, you can be highly trained and just have a bad day or get hit by a critical hit. But, most importantly, he believes that battles must be serious for them to be fun. Because what fun is there in putting up a fake fight, when you could just be True to yourself?
Now, to speak on the connection of Warden Ingo to Kyurem, we must first understand what Kyurem is to Zekrom and Reshiram. On a surface level, it is a Husk, a leftover revenant that can be reassembled into a simulacrum of the Original being. But looking into the actual symbolism of them all is where you find threads of connection to the Warden.
Reshiram, the Dragon of Yin, is representative of a more static element, receptive of change but passive in how it does so. It is a recursive existence that reaches out and pulls back towards itself - Everyone has an individual Truth, but that is still able to be changed by The Truth. However, one does not go out and change The Truth, only altering the perception of it while it passively exists. You cannot change what is already there, only create something new. In comparison, Emmet is never really shown to focus on the future, but rather on the present. He knows of the Truth in his life, and while it can be changed by present actions, he knows that he cannot go back to change it, so there is no need to try, or to hide it.
Zekrom, the Dragon of Yang, is active, ever expanding, and pushes up against those around it in it's search for Ideals. Ideals cause you to seek out a goal, to leave your home, your comfort zone, and push away from the past. To represent Ideals is to be in constant flux; Settling into a form makes you into a Truth, as an Ideal is a goal, something attainable, yet unreachable. We've gone over Ingo's future-forward gaze, constantly thinking about what is to come. Life is a journey, and every step you take in life is a step to self-improvement.
Kyurem is a Husk, a Shell. According to Bulbapedia, it is representative of Wuji ("Without a roof"), the absense of Yin and Yang, or "The Ultimate Nothingness". For this reason, I personally also attribute to it Mu, a concept of non-existence and negative space, specifically the lack of something normally there (modern Japanese actually uses "mu-" as a prefix the same way English has the suffix "-less"). Interestingly, the Japanese transliteration of Wuji is "Mukyoku" (lit. Non-polar, another translation of Wuji), connecting the two concepts neatly. In short, Kyurem represents Nothing and Everything.
Kyurem was supposedly the Original Dragon, the deity of Unova that represented Truths and Ideals in unison, a embodiment of Yin and Yang's harmony. In a sense, the Original Dragon was an embodiment of Everything, Unova's spirit of unity. Then, with the war between the Twin Princes (another pair also frequently compared to Ingo and Emmet, in case you think I forgot my boys), it was split into 2, but secretly 3, parts. This third secret part became Kyurem, a being lacking in its original qualities, leaving Nothing but the Husk.
Now, finally, we can get to everyone's favorite uncle, Warden Ingo. His connection to Kyurem is probably the least intentional of them all (which is saying something, because I'm honestly convinced that the Subway Bosses' own connections aren't intentional, but rather just a result of how Unova games were written with Truth vs. Ideal being ingrained heavily), but there still is one. As Wayward says in her fateful post, "Warden Ingo is an empty husk of who he once was ever since he was separated from his life, and from Emmet." Ingo as the Subway Boss may not have embodies the Everything that the Original Dragon has, but pairing with Emmet so closely still meant that Truth and Ideals mixed so cleanly that it might as well have been Everything.
However, the most important connection for Warden Ingo are the concepts of Wuji and Mu. To be "the Ultimate Nothingness" or "Non-Polar" means to be devoid of Everything, yet still have the capability to be far more than Nothing. The singular concept of Mu may mean that Warden Ingo is missing who he is and was, but that is not who we grow know in the game; We connect with a man who is slowly piecing together his sense of self, remembering facets of his past and growing happier with who he can be. Thus, the Mu transitions into Wuji, a void that isn't Empty so much as lacking.
The importance of distinction is that Mu is by nature Empty, while Wuji is Empty and Everything, limitless and confined. Similarly, Ingo is devoid of what made him him (His drive for self-improvement is impaired, even while he pushes the player to climb to greater heights), but becomes something new in the meta-narrative of the story. His actual, plot-related story ends when you quell Electrode and he becomes a challengeable NPC at the Training Grounds, but he becomes something of a kindred spirit in the greater plot of the game. He's like you, a Faller who has lost themselves, and also like you, an avid battler who pushes the system to it's limits (especially in the Path of Solitude).
In short, the connection between Kyurem and Warden Ingo isn't anything in the text, as Kyurem has no explicit in-game theming attached to it like Zekrom and Reshiram, and Warden Ingo doesn't have strong philosophical points that seeps out of the words he says to you. But when you look at the meta-theming for Kyurem, and subsequently Warden Ingo's meta-narrative, the connections become clearer.
Does some of this make no sense? Of course! A lot of this is extrapolating what was said in Wayward's post, and what came from my head as I thought of it. A lot of the connections of the twins to the Dragons has been discussed since 2010, but for all intents and purposes, Warden Ingo is a different character from Subway Boss Ingo. Narratively, he is the same person, hence why his appearance is a tragedy in Legends Arceus, one which we never get to solve. But on a meta level, he functions so differently, and lives so differently, that the themes he inhabits do not match up to the Subway Boss in any way. To end this on a sad note, Warden Ingo is exactly like Kyurem - Broken. He has lost what made him whole, and we've been shown that just reinserting Ideals isn't enough. Hopefully, if Game Freak decides to touch upon the Warden once more, we can find a way to reinsert his Truths as well.
#submas#pokemon black and white#pokemon legends arceus#pokemon ingo#subway boss ingo#pokemon emmet#subway boss emmet#warden ingo#zekrom#reshiram#kyurem#gen 5 has so much symbolism that it bleeds out into every other game that it cameos into#“Oh you thought that this Sinnoh remake would only touch upon the themes of Gen IV? Well. We put a conductor in the game have fun”
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Seen plenty of fics and art of Irida winding up in the modern day (even pokemon masters did that), but what about you're own view of how that'd go? Or barring that, a version of her winding up there and things not exactly going well at first? Like not /violently/ horrible or anything like that, but just not well.
Well, I already have a version of it with the Subway Boss Irida AU. But if you want a version of Irida in the future where things end up, uh, not well, I do have an AU I have only talked about on Discord.
It's an Irida in modern day + twin dragons au:
More about the AU below the cut
The premise of this AU starts with the fact that all the Zekroms out there used by trainers (few as they are) are just fragments of the original, Ingo/Zekrom, who always stays in Gear Station. Until the eeby deeby, that is.
So, when Ingo is yeeted, all the fragments of Zekrom vanish, no matter if they're in pokeballs, PCs or roaming around. This happens because the link with the original and main one is severed.
Years later, there are rumors about a trainer with a Zekrom, so it catches the attention of a lot of people, especially those from Unova and particularly Emmet. And Team Plasma. Yikes.
Irida originally lands in Johto, where she crafts a custom pokeball for Ingo/Zekrom since it just isn't doable to walk around everywhere when Ingo's dragon form is so big. She doesn't understand what happened, nor where or when she is, but she's very cagey about Ingo's situation with others. People don't realize it's Zekrom at first because they weren't expecting the legendary there of all places after vanishing for years, which helps.
Ingo is very protective of Irida as well, especially since she's stranded in the future and he's stuck in his pokemon form (for now). Poor guy doesn't remember how to detransform. Not that he knew he could turn into a giant dragon either. He forgor.
But eventually they end up in Team Plasma's radar, hoping to use Zekrom for their new plan to take over Unova. They're being hunted down. Oop.
#art requests#submas#submas au#twin dragons au#zekrom ingo#pla#pla au#pla irida#clan leader irida#irida#subway boss ingo#ingo#warden ingo#my art#I still don't know how to name this au#maybe maybe maybe#Black pearl au#because huge black dragon and pearl clan#may change it in the future tho so any suggestions are welcome
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month of ingo, day 26: dragon + day 30: home
the face of an ideal unova
(and, with that, we've reached the end of the line. thank you for riding the 2024 month of ingo express! we hope you had a pleasant journey. please ride with us again.)
#pokemon#submas#my art#pokemon black and white#gen 5 pokemon#subway boss ingo#zekrom#i...did not draw zekrom kick#month of ingo#sept ingo
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So I ran through the fire and I held out my hand. I’m not here to save you, I don’t have a plan. You see, love isn’t rescue, it’s someone to lose. My feet burn, but dear, now I’m in this with you.
— Vincent Lima’s “The Fire”
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I’m still solidifying more character designs, so until then, here is one of the sketches I liked :)
I have playlists for a lot of the characters in this project, and I feel Emmet’s has the most variety of songs. Most fit his personality and story, but one that has always stood out is Vincent Lima’s “The Fire”. I think it best fits Emmet’s motivations within the Spectrum Project.
Part of Emmet’s journey is piecing together his life before New Unova and how he came to this place. As of right now, he has a faint idea that he left someone behind. Something is missing, and it’s a hole none neither Una or Fajra can fill. He doesn’t know where this person is or how to get to them, but he knows he has to try. This search for a missing half helps push him into following his young charge Una throughout New Unova.
However, Emmet’s motivations may not be solely his own. He may have a benefactor that benefits just as much— if not more —from his search for his missing half. A benefactor who understands the same loss.
#cyberpunk dystopia#dystopian#pokémon au#pokémon black and white#pokémon dystopian au#unova#pokemon#pokemon project spectrum#submas#warden ingo#subway boss emmet#zekrom#reshiram#sketchbook#traditional sketch
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lil doodle page :3
#submas#pokemon#pokemon black and white#pokemon bw#kudari#nobori#ingo#emmet#subway boss ingo#subway boss emmet#subway master ingo#subway master emmet#elesa#gym leader elesa#centaur#zebstrika#zebstrika elesa#big brother bug brother au#double amnesia au#zekrom ingo#joltik emmet#submas angst#warden ingo
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LFEGKRHGFKSKDF COMM DONE FOR @msbfonnie
PLEASE CHECK OUT THEIR ARTWORK *DISCORD SALUTE EMOJI*
#submas#subway bosses#subway boss ingo#subway boss emmet#pokemon#reshiram#zekrom#submas au#pkmn fanart#nobori#kudari
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The Famous Subway Twins are ready for Nimbasa’s Masquerade Ball!!!
(A silly idea my tired mind came up with one day seeing as i always see , MerMAY trend art of drawing mermaid related stuff and my sleepy mind went - MAY-Masquerade !-
Highly doubt it be a thing but hey fun to think of :3)
#art#pokemon#submas#Twins#Ingo#Nobori#SubwayBossIngo#Emmet#Kudari#SubwayBossEmmet#Masquerade Ball#outfits#Zekrom#Reshiram#Masks#Art#Traditional art
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Prince meets prince 🌙🌺 💖 ◼️⚡️
Refs: X X
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Unrealistic OOC daydream that I'm sharing just because it's funny:
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"I need to be very clear with you Melli," Ingo says, folding up his coat and handing it to the other warden. "I'm not leaving my possessions in your hands."
Ingo places his hat atop the folded coat now resting in Melli's arms.
"Quite the opposite, actually. Your life is now in my hands."
Melli whips his head up, startled.
"Huh?!"
Ingo leans back, his spine cracking as he straightens up.
"I said," Ingo repeats, voice lower but no less loud, "Your life is in my hands. If you happen to fail to protect your current cargo? Start praying."
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lmao I was imagining Ingo as Zekrom and thought "well if he's Zekrom and he helps out Akari, he might just decide to quell Lord Electrode himself. Oh but what about his coat and hat?" And then this scene just sorta popped up. I can't imagine regular Ingo to say or act like this but Legendary Pokémon Ingo I think should be threatening. You know, as a treat. 🥰
#Submas#Subway Boss Ingo#Ingo#Melli#Warden Melli#Warden Ingo#Pokemon#Pokémon#Legends Arceus#Zekrom Ingo#I think there's like an actual tag for the RIGHT I REMEMBER#Twin Dragons AU
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