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uh-oh-its-bird · 1 year ago

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There are so many naruto time travel fics out there but what I need SPECIFICALLY is an ANBU era team of Kakashi, Tenzo, Itachi, and Shisui getting flung into the founders era.

Like. Ok just looking from the political side of it that's;

A) 2 very young and VERY powerful Uchiha's (one of which is the future clan head!! Politics!!)

B) A very fucked up baby mokuton user who's still in the middle of being deprogrammed and can totally pass for Senju

C) The free wild card that is Hatake clan lore on top of having a stolen sharingan. On top of *that* him being the team leader of a team of kids who, in the time period context, should both be at eachothers throats and probably not be expected to obey the commands of someone not only from another clan but a way smaller one

Theres SO much potential there!! So many political implications in virtually ALL of the directions!!!!

Yk what as I'm typing this out I'm having ✨️ideas✨️ so let's make some story points to sort those out:

• I think itd be neat to have this happen like. A year? Ish? Before the massacre? So age wise, and full disclaimer I'm referencing Google and Wikipedia rn so I could totally be wrong, I think that's :

Kakashi (18)

Tenzo (17)

Itachi (12)

Shisui (15)

Could be wrong about the ages but honestly it's my world you're just living in it, so.

Then me going totally purely off of my own headcannons, were going to say they came in a about a year before Izuna died and place the founders ages as:

Madara (23)

Hashirama (23)

Izuna (19)

Tobirama (18)

Big fan of Tobirama being the youngest between the 4 but projecting the aura of someone as old as like. Idk, however old Madara is. Very funny to me, 10/10

• I'm personally a big fan of dogteeth kakashi so we're running with that all the way home. Also a huge fan of the "Hatake's are a distant, more feral cousin of Inuzuka clan" hc along with some sprinklings of "back in the day they had a bit of a Reputation(tm) for being a 'lill wild, and everyone generally tries to avoid them. Which isn't too much of a problem because theyre a very small out of the way clan from Iron, they just have a big reputation in contrast to their size.

In more modern times tho, along with (obviously) having dwindled down to a single depressed teenager, they've become a lot tamer over the years due to village life. Kakashi is a Hatake, 100%, but he is NOT up to the standards of this time. Which becomes a bit funny when people see him, go "oh FUCK it's a Hatake" and then start edging slowly towards the door like he's about to rip their throat out with his teeth. Meanwhile he's standing there like 🧍‍♂️"am I that ugly."

Give me a scene where, finally used to this reaction to him from the general shinobi population, the team starts to use it to their advantage.

"Give us the scroll or we'll let the Hatake off the leash to have his fun with you. He's been awfully hungry latley you know, hasn't had fresh meat in days"

Kakashi, feeling kind of stupid, gave his best growl.

It caused an almost immediate, embaressed flush to rise to his face, but he didn't let up. It sounded more like an almost pathetic puppy growl than anything to his ears, but apparently it was enough to convince the trembling enemy nin because he slowly lifted the scroll up in offering.

Wow. Now he couldn't tell if he was embaressed for himself or for this guy.

Probably both to be honest.

• So like. Itachi is the clan heir. That's big. That's important. Let's do something with that.

First off, I had a great time reading this one fic (tho I don't even remember what the fic itself was about now, oops) where a plot point of it was how Sasuke is just a walking stereotype of main house Uchiha. Like people look at him and they don't just go "oh that's an Uchiha." They go "oh fuck that's an UCHIHA Uchiha." He's so fucking painfully, obviously related to the very tippy top of the clan that anyone not blind can tell. It's in the way he looks, it's in the way he talks and treats those around him, it's in the way he fucking holds himself. You look at him and every other stereotype about the Uchiha clan is there in big, bold letters. (On top of that he's also a dead wringer for Izuna, which I'm such a sucker for and desperatley wish people would do more with)

So like let's give that to Itachi here because it's so fun for several reasons.

First off; Sasuke in this is like. Straight up a doppelganger of Izuna, just a few generations apart. They could be twins. Itachi, as I'm sure you are aware, is Sasuke's big brother. So let's take some liberties and say that Itachi could absoloutley pass as a blood sibling to Izuna and Madara.

He is however 12, so we're also going to say that the only people who get to make this connection is anyone who's seen the siblings when they were also at a similar age.

On top of that however he has the 'walking amalgamation of all the stereotypes of the main Uchiha house' so anyone who isn't blind will look at him and assume he's somewhere in the sphere of 'important main house person' tho who really knows how distant the relation may be exactly. No one !! That's who !!!

Second; He's the fucking clan heir!! What the fuck!! This bit would have the most impact after all the messy time travel reveals when things have settled down a bit, so it'll sit in the back pocket for a bit. Save it for some fun shaking up later down the line so we don't run out of all the fun reveals too fast and bore the readers, yk?

When it is brought up tho it'd be fun to maybe have some fucky Itachi and Madara mutual understandings of the way things work.

• So. Madara is like a bit of a scary bed time story to Uchiha children, right? Like. "Ooo make sure you don't get too obsessive or fall too deep into your grief and always stay loyal to the village or you'll end up just like Madara!!"

Something something Uchiha-Village relationships are tense as hell, something something Madara fucking over a lot of the clan with his whole. Everything., Something something scapegoat and old stories, something something 'people have probably been talking a lot more about how "god dammit this all started with Madara" in recent years.'

Now with that in mind let's take a look of what our time travelers think of Madara:

Itachi is a good Konoha soldier. Itachi (as has been very much fucking proven) would rather beat a possible problem before it even exists with a hammer till it dies an ugly bloody death than even RISK it blossoming into a proper problem. Itachi does not like Madara. Itachi personally, quietly thinks they should maybe wait till the village is formed then carefully arrange a little accident for him before he goes off the rails. He, even more quietly, maybe even thinks it would be a kindness. Allow him to be remembered well by the village instead of scorned.

Shisui I think is cautiously optimistic about him. He's the kind of guy who gives the benefit of the doubt, who weighs the options, risk and reward, but includes things like hope and compassion in his calculations. Yes, Madara was a uhh. Thing. That happened. But in every story his big blow up always come from one specific event; Izuna's death. So if they stop that from happening, wouldn't it secure both a better future for them and Madara? The history books never went into detail about Izuna, he doesn't know what he's like, but maybe his involvement in the future, on Konoha's side, could lead to even more profits for them long term. At the end of the day he's not against killing Madara (though to be clear, they are at first operating on trying to avoid all interactions with historical events and return home without touching things) but it'd be nice, to manage to get a happy ending for everyone. Unrealistic maybe, but nice.

Mmmm hear me out actually, maybe Shisui, after interacting with him a bit, finds that Madara reminds him of Itachi too. They definatley both have that "I would do unspeakable things to even dream of my loved just one more time" energy, if you know what I mean

Anyways; Kakashi and Tenzo are both neutral on Madara. Yes, they learned about how he betrayed the village when young just like everyone else, but they weren't getting the bed time stories and "do this and you'll end up just like him" warnings like the Uchiha's. They're possibly leaning into negative but are detached from the situation enough to just go "well he hasn't done it yet and his brother is still alive so he won't any time soon" and be done with it

• Now, on the the total opposite side of the spectrum you have Hashirama and Tobirama. People are brought up in Konoha to fucking IDOLIZE these guys. You can not tell me our team of time travelers wouldn't be at least a little awed to speak with them.

I think Tenzo would be the most wide eyed about Hashirama, both for the baseline "holy shit that's the Shodai Hokage" and also that fun juicy mokuton user imposter syndrome he has going on for him. That guys DNA is inside his body!!! Holy shit wait does that mean if someone did a blood relation test with them he might read as being related to him?? Fuck were gonna pocket that for now but like. Mmmmm potential.

I'd say Itachi is the most hesitant about Tobirama but again, village loyalist, so.

You know what tho maybe Shisui is the most hesitant about him (though still largely positive) he both def grew up looking up to him but can also see the anti-Uchiha policies people inact now with the implications that Tobirama would have approved of it. He doesn't know if he would, but like, he has to wonder.

Kakashi is probably the most normal about them (and also has experience in being close to a hokage (Minato) to know that at the end of the day they are painfully human) Don't get me wrong, he's still in some sort of awe! He might get a little lightheaded at the thought of seeing the God of Shinobi in proper battle, or the possibility to see the famed genius of Tobirama with all the different jutsu's he's invented. You can't tell me Kakashi didn't spend a little extra time reading about him when he was trying to make Chidori. Honestly I'm gonna roll with that and say he had a bit of a phase as a kid where he was a total fan boy. Maybe sprinkle in the good old HalfHatake!Tobirama hc to add some faint daydreams a lonley babykashi had after his father's death, about getting to meet him as family. Like cmon, little genius idolizing and projecting on some big history figure only to find out they're actually related? Can you say potential?

Anyways he did eventually grow out of the phase, probably got unattached to it all and lost interest after the whole "losing everything he loved" bit of his life. And at the end of the day, he doesn't have any real complex personal hang ups on the founders like the others do. Thus, most normal.

• And then my favorite most special boy, Izuna !! He's for sure the one they're all most neutral about. He's not actually taught about in the academy? There's probably some throw away line about him in some history books somewhere, but he died young and was quickly buried by the looming shadow of Konoha. The only real knowledge had about him in modern times is just a vague "Yeah he got killed by Tobirama which lead to peace being made but also lead to Madara losing his shit"

Poor Izuna he's the linchpin for it all but was left an unremarkable footnote of history. My boy deserves so much better

Tenzo doesn't actually even know who he is, that boy got bare minimum education under Danzo and Izuna was NOT included.

Itachi and Shisui mmmaybe have some small little fun fact here or there buried in stories from the older members of the clans but like. It's gonna amount to just "yeah he had a great katon" and thats about it.

I WILL SAY HOWEVER. Itachi sees him and instantly is that one PTSD dog meme. Sasuke is a BABY but holy shit Izuna looks exactly like he'd expect him to grow up as and it's making him FEEL THINGS. Also he's so bratty little brother coded !! He's an entire 7 years older than Itachi but Ifachi keeps fucking up and trying to big brother him it's embaressing.

And ofc Itachi didn't go into the first meeting thinking he'd see some weird older mirror version of his beloved baby brother who he misses and worries about very very much. So like. There's for sure going to be some conflict there. If their first meeting is a scuffle (which it probably will be) I think Itachi would keep hesitating to attack. On full run away mode. Which is probably for the best bc he shouldn't try to fight Izuna anyways honey he's like double your bodyweight and you're strong but you aren't THAT strong.

• Pointing back at both the 'Itachi does not like Madara and has quiet thoughts about how it'd possibly be in everyone's interest to just kill him' and the 'Itachi and Madara quietly bond over being clain head/heir during stressful times (w pressure from the elders especially)

I can see 2 outcomes of a potential bonding conversation with them:

1) They come to understand eachother better.

Madara wants to be on good terms, he looks at this kid and sees one of his brothers eyes and the others quiet determination. He can tell Itachi doesn't like him for some reason, and it's frustrating because he doesn't know why. He wants him to like him. He wants to be able to offer his hand and have it taken. It hurts, to be looked at with such suspicion from a face that has traces of Izuna's.

Meanwhile Itachi . . . Itachi looks at Madara and he sees someone who gets it. Gets it like no one ever has. It scares him. He looks up at this man, this horror story he's been told to fear becoming, and he sees himself. And this realization shakes him. It makes him think, makes him wonder. He's so, so sure of his loyalty to Konoha. More sure than he is of anything else in the world. But . . . But if something happened to Sasuke, if he had to choose—

And maybe it softens something in him too, along with the (honestly healthy) dose of fear. It forms a little crack in his shell, just enough to maybe, maybe let Madara through. Just a hair.

Or 2) we pull one of those "The conversation ends with them agreeing verbally but mentally they're on 2 VERY different notes."

Madara, nodding and looking at Itachi meaningfully: "Yeah it can be hard, but all we can really do is try to make the world a safer place for the ones we love. (To create Konoha, to keep my clan safe. Izuna safe. And now to keep you safe too.)

Itachi, nodding slowly: "Yeah. No matter how hard it is (even though I think I understand you more than anyone else Ive ever met) we have to try to make the world a safer place (by killing you in your sleep once Konoha is formed) for the ones we love (My clan. My village. Sasuke.)"

• Also pointing back at the 'Hatake warring clan era reputation,' the 'Tobirama is half Hatake' and also now pointing at Tobirama's title as the White Demon. Small thing but it'd be neat if there was some small throw away line that the nickname lowkey started in part because of the absoloutley terrifying reputation of the Hatake combined with Tobirama's own Everything(tm) like it just had some influence on how some view him. Give me Uchiha's making dog jokes ab him it'll be funny

• Ok but now the actual plot thoughts. Yeah I know I kept you waiting sorry about that.

So time travel! Probably due to a mission gone wrong. Some ruins or some ancient crumbling scroll that wasn't even supposed to do fucking time travel but was so old and corroded that it somehow managed to transform into a whole other seal by pure bad luck. Or good luck I guess, considering it could have just turned into a nuke.

Our favorite team of disasters are very very alarmed !!! What the fuck !!! Obviously they don't default to thinking time travel, but they immediatley know something is wrong. The landscape has changed, though the big landmarks are still there. The mission was complete anyways with no injuries so they just retreat to Konoha. Only oops !! It's not fucking there!!!

Queue alarm.

Shisui is the first one to suggest time travel because he's quirky like that. And there's a very easy way to confirm this theory.

(Also we're going to say that Konoha's location is a valley a few miles out from the Naka River that borders the Senju / Uchiha territories.)

This is convenient because that verification method involves checking in on where Itachi and Shisui know the old Uchiha compound should rest.

They do it in full stealth mode, the second they saw Konoha was missing Kakashi as team leader decided they'd treat the land as enemy territory. They all agreed ofc, for all they knew this WAS enemy territory now.

And, ofc, yeah!! There's the old Uchiha compound!! Being active!!! There are people there!!!

"What are the odds Fugaku-sama decided to have the clan return to their homeland for ahh, cultural enrichment?" Kakashi asked weakly.

"Time travel." Was the only reply he got from Shisui, whispered reverently as the boy vibrated with excitement on the branch.

Itachi just gave him a look, radiating a level of dissaproving disbelief that no normal 12 year old should be able to make. Kakashi would know, he was that not-normal 12 year old once.

From there they decide a no interference policy. Hands off guys!! They probably debate it tho, like, a good amount. They all have ✨️opinions✨️ except maybe Tenzo who's lowkey still in the middle of trying to learn how to be a person and is following Kakashi's lead 99% of the time. Especially since they're still in mission mode and this is like a super serious discussion and he really does know the least ab the founders overall.

They probably debate the merits of going to Uzushiogakure bc seal help but it's really far and they don't actually have like, just any leverage with them. They already decided not to fuck with the future so it isn't like they can trade secrets and warnings. At least if shit happens here they have some plausible deniability, being, yk, 2 uchiha's and a senju-passing guy with Mokuton. Kakashi's kinda fucked tho in that regard but he isn't going to be doing the party ANY favors with his clan heritage.

Which means it's time to potentially get desperate enough to interact with Tobirama !!! Which will inevitably lead to them bumping into a Uchiha patrol or something!!! I don't know honestly

• Anyways want Hashirama and Tenzo to interact. He has so many issues like holy shit. Let Hashirama give him the hug he deserves. I want him to violently adopt him. New brother acquired!!!

I said before but Tenzo is still reprogramming from ROOT. Let Hashirama impact that! Let him help! They can make flower crowns and photosynthesize together idk

Hashirama would be so happy to have another mokuton user, I think they should be able to sense eachother extra strong and like 'ping' off of eachothers chakra, it'll be fun

▪︎ I'm not thinking toooo hard about power scaling and this is fanfiction so a) don't quote me on this and b) for the love of all that is holy don't take my words as gospel

But for this fic specifically I'm ranking the founders and Team Ro, weakest to strongest (in a clean, fair fight head on w no time to prepare) :

Itachi (he's fucking 12 guys. But also he is like. FRACTIONS under Tenzo and Shisui. If he were 13 I'd let him be above or at the same level but like. He's 12. Cmon.)

Tenzo - Shisui (they're like JUST under the next 2 tho like seconds behind)

Izuna - Tobirama

Kakashi ( by the skin of his fucking teeth and the advantage that is his stupid amount of jutsu's and lack of self preservation)

Madara - Hashirama

And again that's not counting like. The specific situations, time given to prepare, potential dirty tricks they could play (I think the Konoha tricks would play a fraction dirtier than the others, who are slightly more used to big open battles vs the ANBU squad who does all sorts of shit in all sorts of places) plus like. Mental state and team ups.

Tenzo or Shisui couldn't take down Izuna or Tobirama but if they teamed up I'd allow it. Kakashi would get his ass kicked by Hashirama or Madara but he could survive a minutes longer than the others would

Itachi is doing his best

But like

He's 12 guys

I love him and he is terrifyingly competent but he won't win 1 on 1 with anyone unless he has some sort of advantage. Minus Shisui and Tenzo who he does have the advantage of regularly fighting, so.

• I think they do get to go back home in the end. It takes a ton of work tho and they probably do need to get Mito's help with it, Kakashi can show them the seal they got brought here with but it's an ACTUAL one in a trillion miracle it didn't fucking atomize them. So it needs a lot of touch ups

Anyways !!!

I have a little more rattling around in my brain but I'm really tired and also starting to think about other things now so I'm gonna stop here. Might come back and add to it later so stay tuned if you're into that

Full disclaimer I'm not gonna write this. I don't have the proper energy and it'd probably end up being too ambitious of a project if I tried. I'd love to see it happen tho, so like !! Big open invitation to absoloutley anyone who might want to take even a fraction of the ideas I've listed.

@ me if you do tho I wanna see the final product

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wangxianficfinder · 4 months ago

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In the mood for..

March 16th

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1. hiii do you know any fics where either wwx or lwj stalk the other, or they both unknowingly stalk each other? @ashxi-wx

you only ever touch me in the dark by sweetlolixo (E, 5k, WangXian, Modern AU, Dark LWJ, Older LWJ, Age Difference, Boypussy, Intersex WWX, Feminization, Rape/Non-con Elements, Dirty Talking LWJ, Stalking, Size Difference, WWX Has a Non-Con Kink, Dark WWX, Daddy Kink, Mirror Sex, Restraints, Virginity Kink, Blindfolds, Deranged4Deranged Wangxian)

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2. Hello! Hope you're doing well! 🩵

I was recently reading For You by 10thNoNamePerson (amazing story) and I was wondering if you could recommend some stories that have detailed fight scenes of WWX just letting loose displaying either his sword fighting skills, talismans or even resentful energy.

Here is an excerpt from "For You" that gives an example of what I'm looking for:

Slash. Stab. Strike. Faster. Faster. I need to go faster!

His movements become a blur, daring to step over the line he has firmly drawn when he gets too immersed into a fight. He can’t stop, won’t stop until Lan Zhan lets him step out. Back out, back out, just back out!

It doesn't really have to be WWX only, it could just have really detailed written fight scenes.

Thank you!! 🩵

❤️ I Started From the Bottom/And Now I’m Rich by x_los (E, 57k, WangXian, WWX/Others, Mutual Pining, Marriage of Convenience, Arranged Marriage, No Sunshot Campaign, Fix-It, WQ Lives, Transmigration, Time Travel, Weddings, Sugar Daddy, Sugar Daddy, Black Widow, Protective Siblings, Dysfunctional Family, Family Bonding, Sugar Baby, consort, Politics, Implied/Referenced Sexual Assault, Crack Treated Seriously) has WWX going toe-to-toe with Madam Yu, if that's any help?

If We Keep Holding On, Just a Bit Longer by Kestral (T, 55k, WangXian, LXC/JGY, JYL/JZX, Graphic Depictions Of Violence, Urban Fantasy, Dark Fairytale, and seriously i mean Dark, will include specific content warnings for each chapter, Abuse, Torture, Angst, Hurt/Comfort, Trauma, Second Person, Multiple Povr, eaders are not expected to be familiar with changeling: the lost, trust me though changeling angst is so delicious read this for pain, Fae politics, Fae & Fairies, Non-Chronological, Slow Burn, Secret Relationship) I'm reccing my fic for #2. No wwx fight scenes posted yet, but there are several in the chapter i'm currently working on.

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3. I want to read some fics that are sad and look into grief (especially LWJ’s morning after WWX died). Could it be set during the time period (e.g no modern or time travel AU’s) and have no incest. Bonus points for A-yuan being in it. Thanks mods !!

🔒 It Will Pass (but it is here now) by AmyNChan (G, <1k, LSZ & LWJ, Death, LSZ Needs a Hug, Child LSZ, Good Kid LSZ)

to the act of making noise by words-writ-in-starlight (WordsWritInStarlight) (G, 19k, LSZ & LWJ, LSZ & WWX, WangXian, Grief/Mourning, Father-Son Relationship, inquiry, LSZ is the best of boys and I will not hear debate, Music, Angst, Fluff and Angst, Found Family, [Podfic] to the act of making noise by Ceewelsh, flamingwell, kisahawklin, Rionaa) check out the podfic with music if you want to use even more tissues

Gathered Herbs & Sweet Grasses by hansbekhart (Not Rated, 19k, LSZ & LWJ, WangXian, dad wangji, LWJ’s Questionable Parenting Skills, Grief/Mourning, Recovery, Injury Recovery, Hopeful Ending, Canon-Typical Violence, Gathered Herbs & Sweet Grasses [podfic] by someplacelikebolivia)

let the yoke fall from our shoulders by occultings (microcomets) (G, LSZ & LWJ, LSZ & WWX, wangxian, LWJ & LSZ & WWX, Hurt/Comfort, Light Angst, Character Study, Mentions of Canonical Character Death, Grief/Mourning, Gusu Lan Juniors Dynamics, let capricorns cathart agenda, Happy Ending, Family Feels, Established Relationship, [Podfic] Cold read of let the yoke fall from our shoulders by kisahawklin)

🧡 Ghosts Shouldn’t by ShanaStoryteller (Not Rated, 15k, WangXian, Grief/Mourning, Canon Divergence, Angst with a Happy Ending, Ghosts Shouldn't by ShanaStoryteller [Podfic] by Rhea314 (Rhea)) if you don't mind a little canon divergence?

New Perspective by mrcformoso (T, 8k, WangXian, LSZ & LWJ, Major Character Death, Angst, Hopeful Ending, Fatherhood, Regrets, Flashbacks, POV LWJ, LWJ-centric, Canonical Character Death - WWX, Pining LWJ, LWJ Has Feelings, LWJ Needs a Hug, Character Development, Dead WWX, Introspection, Feelings, LWJ is Bad at Feelings, Character Study, Regretful LWJ, Breaking Toxic Cycles, Canon Compliant, LWJ in Seclusion, Post-LWJ in Seclusion, Child LSZ)

partly frozen, partly flowing by astrolesbian (T, 4k, LXC & LWJ, WangXian, Canon-Typical Violence, Blood and Injury, Hurt/Comfot, Sibling Relationship)

🔒藕断丝连 by RoseThorne (G, 456, WangXian, LSZ & LWJ, Grief/Mourning, Memory Loss, Memories, POV Third Person, POV LSZ, Rituals, lotuses)

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4. Hiii itmf something cute where teenager WY is a bit older than LZ (like ~3-5 years) and LZ is fuming because he has a huge crush on him! Maybe they just meet as students during CR training arc, or maybe they were betrothed by their parents/guardians for a future political alliance. Shixiong WY is a very charming and competent older disciple and attracts people and friends, and small LZ is both territorical and furious that he likes this annoying and smiling bully (how dare he treat him like a kid?!). Any AU except modern w/o cultivation. Amazing if they get together when both are a bit older. Something fun and sweet, but longer works with angst and happy ending are also okay! Thank you!l

For the Sake of a Smile by Reikosama7716 (Not Rated, 94k, WIP, WangXian, Minor Everyone/WWX, CSSR/WCZ, Older!WWX, Oblivious WWX, Top LWJ, Jealous LWJ, Possessive LWJ, Protective!JC, JZX's Attempt in Public Confession, WWX and his ducklings, Everyone is young and gay for WWX, WWX and Jiāng siblings are cousins, Canon Divergence, LQR Metaphorically Qi-Deviates, WWX in his YLLZ appearance, Implied/Referenced Character Death, Third wheeling of unfortunate sect disciples, Somebody Lives/Not Everyone Dies)

Conquering the Emperor by catbrainedschemes (E, 21k, wangxian, Historical AU, Imperial China, Emperor WWX, General LWJ, Mutual Pining, Idiots in Love, Historically Inaccurate, Misunderstandings, Fluff, Eventual Smut, Light Angst, Non-Graphic Violence, Getting Together, Sexual Tension, Some Plot, Slow Burn, Happy Ending)

you'll love me at once (the way you did once upon a dream) by sweetlolixo (T, 18k, WangXian, Dark Fairytale, Inspired by Maleficent (2014), Wingfic, Sleeping Beauty with a twist, Maleficent WWX, Prince LWJ, Older WWX, Younger LWJ, Angst with a Happy Ending, True Love's Kiss)

🔒As Years Pass Us By by Loqui (G, 32k, WIP, WangXian, WWX Isn't Adopted by the Jiangs, Age Difference, Younger LWJ, Older WWX, LWJ Has Feelings, Pining LWJ, Introspective LWJ, Canon Divergence, Fluff and Humor, Slow Burn, very light, Light Angst, WWX is a Lan, POV LWJ)

I risk it all (just to be with you) by Manu_K (G, 2k, WangXian, Canon Divergence, will mostly follow the book plot, Pining LWJ, Pining WWX)

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5. Been rereading Delight in Misery by nirejseki and it's got me in the mood for more fic where LWJ joins the Jiang sect after WWX's death or resurrection, if anyone else has written that? Thank you! @aroace-lukeskywalker

The Sun Sets Like a Whispered Regret by OrdinaryRealities (T, 41k, JC & LWJ, WangXian, Resurrect Your Gays, LWJ and JC enemies to brothers, MDZS Big Bang 2020, Minor Character Death, discussion of characters who have died, And the trauma of that, Kidfic, Sort Of, characters working through trauma together, Give MXY some GD agency, Happy Ending)

picking up the pieces by KouriArashi (M, 111k, WangXian, Canon Divergence, Alternate Canon, Grief/Mourning, Angst, Regret, Family, Kid Fic, Families of Choice, Emotional Hurt/Comfort, Politics, Emotional/Psychological Abuse, Canon-Typical Violence, canon typical political bullshit, Eventual Happy Ending) Jiang Yanli becomes sect leader following Jiang Cheng’s death and Lan Zhan moves to Lotus Pier where he and Jiang Yanli raise their children together after Wei Ying’s death in picking up the pieces

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6. Hello, I have a nsfw itmf request:

Can you recommend works where wangxian ust is progressing into lz going silently forward with intimacy waiting for WY to tell him to stop (almost like gay chicken but lz is not joking, he just can't help himself) and WY is speechless but curious and letting him.

The way it is in "When you like somebody bite your tongue" by sophiahelix, "oh no, what'll I do, my perky ass groped on the train" by sweetlolixo or "Summer heat" by athena_crikey

Thank you! 😘

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7. Hey y'all! I was in the mood for some fics where the Lans treat Wei Wuxian as family. Not because of adoption, but just because Wangji loves him so much, so they, by extension, love him too. Do you know any fics like that? Thanks a million in advance! @fero-setsuri-blog

When we were small by deliciousblizzardshark (T, 7k, LXC & LQR & LWJ, LQR & WWX, WangXian, JFM & LQR, Modern, Kid Fic, Good Uncle LQR, Neurodivergent LWJ, Baby LWJ, Baby WWX, Parenthood, Homophobia, Implied/Referenced Child Abuse, POV LQR, Implied/Referenced Underage Sex, Grief/Mourning, Emotional Hurt/Comfort, When we were small [Podfic] by Stasia Reader (Stasia), [Podfic] When we were small by sisi_rambles)

Seasons of Falling Flowers by merakily (G, 40k, WangXian, LQR & WWX, LQR & LWJ, Canon Compliant, Post-Canon, Character Study, Introspection, In-Laws, Golden Core, Emotional Baggage, Family Bonding, Protective LWJ, Good Parent LQR, LQR has feelings, LQR & WWX become friends)

Just Say Yes Series by edenwolfie (T/M, 338k, WangXian, Matchmaking, Pining, Getting Together, Canon Divergence, POV Alternating, Fluff, First Kiss, Declarations Of Love, Humor, Cloud Recesses Study Arc, Good Uncle LQR, Engagement, Hurt/Comfort, Fix-It)

Deeper Seasons by piecrust (G, 8k, LQR & WWX, WangXian)

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8. Similar fanfic Set in Stone by thesongofsirens with Lan Zhan rejecting Wei ying? Thank you in advance 💕✨ @yuukikonnos-world

When the Words Stop Coming by mrcformoso (T, 7k, WangXian, Canon Compliant, POV WWX, POV LWJ, Cloud Recesses Study Arc, Pre-Sunshot Campaign, Burial Mounds Settlement Days, Canonical Character Death, Love Confessions, Rejection, LWJ is a Panicked Gay, Temporarily Unrequited Love, Trauma, WangXian Get a Happy Ending, Angst with a Happy Ending, Sad with a Happy Ending) the rejection is out of gay panic tho

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9. Hello, I'm in the mood for docs where wwx was adopted by or related to someone and the relatives loves him, spoils him, and nurtures his genius and boasts about him to others. It can be a kid wwx or whatever. Something similar to the fic "Sunset, Sunrise" by Ariana Deralte or "All Things Belong"" by kuroi_atropos. Thank you!

🔒 shades of grey spill from my veins (bleeding ink all over the page) by Reverie (cl410) (M, 58k, NieLan, WangXian, SangNing, POV NMJ, Canon Divergence, Joining the “Wei Wuxian raised by the Nie Sect” Club, Mentions of WWX’s life on the streets, Hurt/Comfort, Accidental Sibling Acquisition, Single Dad NMJ, NHS & WWX Friendship, Fluff, Humor, Happy Ending, Everyone Lives AU, Protective NMJ, Sunshot Campaign, Some angst, Blood and Injury, Kidnapping, Protective Siblings, Found Family) Wei Ying is brought into the Nie sect as a child and nurtured and loved in shades of grey...and Heart of the Beast

Heart of the Beast by WaitForTheSnitch (E, 488k, WangXian, WWX Isn't Adopted by the Jiāngs, Adopted WWX, WWX is a Niè, Canon Divergence, Emotional Hurt/Comfort, Oblivious WWX, Protective NMJ, Scheming NHS, Protective NHS, Soft NMJ, NMJ is So Done, NHS Is A Little Shit, Pining, LWJ Has Feelings)

All Things Belong by kuroi_atropos (M, 93k, WRH & WWX, WangXian, WWX is a Wēn, Abuse, Whipping, Manipulations, Warning: WRH, Smart WWX, Possessive Behavior, Warning: JGS, Implied/Referenced Rape/Non-con, Past Rape/Non-con, Society Level Victim Blaming, Victim Blaming) (link in 14B)

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10. hello! an ask for ITMF! fics where wwx is a victim of/recovering from rape/sexual assault? preferably a central point of the story, any setting/au etc! thank you!!!

🧡 Heaven Has No Rage by flipfloppandas (M, 51k, WWX & YZY, JFM/YZY, implied wangxian, WWX/WC, WWX/others, rape/non-con, modern, hurt/comfort, protective YZY, good parent YZY, hospitals, medical procedures, vomiting, trauma)

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11. I don't know if this group is still active, but I was watching Living Dead and had this thought... I wonder if there are any fics that follow on from the movie or tie Wangxian back into it. @lovelyseraph

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12. Hello, 🤗 Could you please recommend something in the mood of "truth will be out on the video" and "Black sun"? Thank you!

An Unscheduled Stream by trippednfell (M, 77k, WIP, WangXian, Modern AU, Modern Cultivation, Misunderstandings, BAMF WWX, BAMF Wen Popo, WWX cultivates resentful energy but keeps his golden core, WangXian Get a Happy Ending, Presumed Enemies to Lovers, Not Yunmeng Jiang friendly, Time Skips, Dual Cultivation - Not the Sexy Kind, but ALSO the sexy kind, POV Multiple, Hurt/Comfort, Horny wound tending)

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13. Hello! ITMF great Madam Yu stories, where she is a badass, independent and straightforward (read vicious and unashamed about it) woman, a strong cultivator and a great, caring in her not so gentle way, protective and fierce mother and aunt for the whole Yungmen trio! I really crave some good maternal figures for them lately. Also kudos if Jiang Cheng is both her little copy and a mother's boy, and if they both are badass and protective towards Wuxian and Yanli, especially towards their lovers. Thanks! ☺️ @shellennium

Sun Stained Lotus by MidnightLightHowlite (T, 70k, WangXian, YZY & WWX, Good Parent YZY, non abusive non toxic YZY, WWX still has his complexes tho, Angst, Fluff, Grandmasters of Miscommunication, It Gets Worse Before It Gets Better, Good siblings, Trauma!, Death!, lots of death!, LWJ wants to help but he's emotionally stunted, LQR is a responsible adult!, sworn sisters YZY and CSSR, Emotional Damage, Suicidal Thoughts, Self depreciation)

suddenly my eyes are open (everything comes into focus) by eraiklys (G, 3k, YZY & WWX, Canon Divergence, Comfort, Mother-Son Relationship, Fluff, Light Angst, im sorry JFM but youre the bad guy in the verse, very gay undertones, Like, YZY and CSSR gay undertones, Cynophobia, Dog, JC's dogs, JYL is a sweetheart, Everyone Is Gay, Everyone Needs A Hug)

🔒Aunt Knows Best by retired (misbehavingvigilante) (M, 10k, WWX & YZY, WangXian, Canon Divergence, Character Study, Crossdressing, Dysfunctional Family, Gender Identity, Fix-It, Sexism, Trans WWX, Good Parent YZY)

Zephyrs Blowing Below the Violet by Comfect (T, 64k, FengYuan, Canon Divergence, Fix-It, Bad to Good Parenting, cursing, Anger Management, No Golden Core Transfer, Bad Parent YZY, Good Parent YZY, POV YZY, YZY Learning and Adapting, Not Everything Ends Up Sad, Happy Ending, YZY & JFM Live)

heavy is the head that wears the crown by izukillme (T, 41k, YZY/JFM, YZY/CSSR, XuanLi, Canon Divergence, Not Canon Compliant, Pre-Canon, BAMF YZY, YZY-centric, Good Parent YZY, Bad Parent JFM, Jiang Family Fix-It, Fix-It, Implied/Referenced Suicide, Canon-Typical Violence, Canonical Child Abuse, Child Abuse, note: the suicide itself is offscreen, but is referenced multiple times through the story, Lesbian YZY)

🔒Hope series by RoseThorne (M, 69k, WangXian, WIP, Transmigration, Time Travel Fix-It, Memory Loss, Angst, Recovery, Nightmares, Sharing a Bed, Emotional Hurt/Comfort, Good Parent YZY, Referenced Sexual Slavery, Blood and Gore, Sexual Tension, Arranged Marriage, Grief, POV Third Person, POV Alternating, Implied/Referenced Abuse, Implied/Referenced Child Abuse, Good Parent LQR, Clairvoyance, Butterfly Effect, Kid Fic, Epistolary, Resentful Energy, Cultivation Sect Politics, Character Death, Assassination Attempt(s), Attempted Kidnapping, Hostage Situations, Mentioned WCZ Disobeying Orders, Explosions, Yin Iron, Grief/Mourning, POV WWX)

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14. A) Any and all fics where WWX embraces being Lan Er Furen and it's the best Furen Cloud Recesses has ever had! Or at least is acknowledge! Does anyone know of one?

B) I was just thinking if there was a fic where WWX is mistreated and/or evicted from the clans by the Jiangs very publicly and EVERYONE knows he is a prodigy and wants him, but WHR arrives first and basically gives him normal levels of kindness and wwx is almost like "daddy"? And he even promises to arrange a marriage for him with LWJ and all. Basically WWX being treated like he deserved, everyone wanting him, and WHR getting him and as a bonus, the second jade o lan. @lostandmessedup

14B)

Scars of Lightning by The_peregrine_falcon (T, 6k, YZY & WWX, WWX & WRH, WangXian, YZY’s A+ Parenting, Canon Divergence, Not Canon Compliant, Wen WWX, zidian, YZY is a bitch, Canon-Typical Violence, Blood and Injury, Major Character Injury, Heavy Angst, Lotus Pier, Nightless City, Young WWX, Muteness, Hurt kind of comfort) has Wei Ying thrown out of the Jiang sect and he’s found with injuries that Madam Yu gave him by Wen Qing and Wen Ruohan. These next ones aren’t quite what they’re asking for either because Wei Ying hasn’t been cast out by the Jiangs in these, but they involve Wen Ruohan going after Wei Ying because he sees his genius and because he suspects Wei Ying is his grandson:

and

Sunset, Sunrise by Ariana Deralte (ArianaDeralte) (T, 59k, WWX & WRH, WangXian, WIP, Time Travel Fix-It, Crack, Temporary Character Death, sorry I killed a-Yuan for a few paragraphs before the time travel, WWX is a Wen, Genius WWX, WRH gets to rewatch the series as a treat, Implied/Referenced Child Abuse, in this house we acknowledge that all the sects have flaws, Implied/Referenced Sexual Assault, WWX Has ADHD, Bad Parents JFM & YZY, Implied/Referenced Suicide, Autistic LWJ, Loss of Limbs)

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15. Hello! This one is for ITMF: Any recommendations for Post-canon fics where characters get some sort of closure/bonding? Like, Yunmeng bros reconciliation, Nie Huaisang and Wei Wuxian being friends again, Wei Wuxian learning to love himself, Jin Ling and Wei Wuxian bonding, The Juniors being protective of Wei Wuxian, etc.? (not all of this has to be necessarily present in one single fic!! My only main requirements are Post-Canon, The Juniors, and Wei Wuxian)

(Some fics I have read with these are "Tell some storm" by qurbat, "Mark My Place" by BenevolentErrancy, and "The stone-filled sea" by yukla. All of them are absolutely amazing works and I'm looking for something similar)

Also, thank you for the last ITMF help (Feb 2, I think?), I enjoyed all the fic recs! @mysteriouslytragic

🔒 Lan by AmyNChan (G, 3k, LSZ & LJY, Family, they're cousins or brothers or something your honor, LJY has enough faith in LSZ to move a mountain)

🔒 I have a father by AmyNChan (G, 1k, LSZ & WWX, Some things stay the same, Derogatory)

bespoke by cafecliche (G, 3k, WangXian, Post-Canon, Fluff)

hills and rivers are waiting by LtLJ (T, 15k, WangXian, JL & WWX, Feels, Canon-Typical Violence, Case Fic, BAMF WWX)

Rotten Work by ShanaStoryteller (Not Rated, 63k, WangXian, WWX & JL, Post-Canon, Protective WWX, Protective JL, Yunmeng Bros Reconciliation, Reluctant Matchmaker JL)

the place your heart inhabits by Fleetling (T, 8k, WangXian, LWJ & LSZ & WWX, Angst with a Happy Ending, Post-Canon Fix-It, Father Figures, father-son bonding, Getting Together, Mutual Pining, Humor, Oblivious WWX, Pining WWX, WWX-centric, Good Kid LSZ, Adopted LSZ, Wingman LSZ, LSZ is LWJ & WWX's Child, Good LSZ, WWX goes back to gusu, resentful energy, Golden Core, wwx has both and it's a struggle, Unreliable Narrator)

🔒What Is Left Over by Loriqod (T, 30k, WangXian, JC & WWX, Yunmeng Shuangjie, Yunmeng brothers, Post-Canon Fix-It, WWX Has a New Golden Core, Happy Ending, WangXian in Love, bite-sized angst, Canon-Typical Violence, JC & WWX Reconciliation, Training Montage)

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16. hiiiii do you have any canon divergence fics where wwx goes back to gusu with lwj? @ashxi-wx

Do not take that which does not belong to you by Selene210 (E, 7k, WangXian, Canon Divergence, Protective LWJ, Possessive LWJ, Jealous LWJ, Possessive Sex, Kidnapping, Murder, Blood and Violence, wangxian married and have a son, Explicit Sexual Content, Biting, Marathon Sex, Multiple Orgasms, Bath Sex, Rimming, Anal Sex, Anal Fingering, Top LWJ/Bottom WWX, WWX has an angry LWJ kink, Wangxian canon breeding kink, LWJ canon massive dick)

🔒 Swordless by WithBroomBefore (G, 32k, WangXian, JC & JYL & WWX, LQR & WWX, Established Relationship, Canon Divergence, WWX goes to Gusu, Happy Ending, Trust, Healing, unofficial title: The Communication AU, Golden Core Reveal, Crying, Feelings, Trans Character, AFAB LWJ, philosophy, Kissing, POV WWX)

gone with the silence by SpeedingCheetah (M, 63k, WangXian, LSZ & WWX & LWJ, Graphic Depictions Of Violence, Canon Divergence, Arranged Marriage, Implied/Referenced Self-Harm, Implied/Referenced Character Death, Self-Harm, Major Character Injury, Injury Recovery, Eating Disorder Not Otherwise Specified, POV LWJ, WangXian-centric, Location: Cloud Recesses, Quote: Come Back to Gusu With Me, Golden Core Reveal, Post-Sunshot Campaign, WangXian Adopt LSZ, Ambiguous/Open Ending, a sorta-kinda-maybe fix it story, WWX Goes to Gusu, triggers are in the notes)

Practical Considerations by teawater, the_anthropologist (E, 97k, WangXian, JC & WWX, LXC & WWX, LQR & WWX, Arranged Marriage, Canon Divergence, Found Family, Spouses to Lovers, Emotional Hurt/Comfort, Light Angst, Politics, Scheming, Lán Elders are assholes, BAMF WWX, BAMF LWJ, eventually BAMF LXC, learning to make decisions, Learning Self-worth, Self-Esteem Issues, Sweet Wangxian, Domestic Fluff, Fix-It, JC is a big asshole, he improves somewhat but it’s open-ended, WWX learns to stand up for himself, Quote: Come Back to Gusu With Me, POV wwx, POV LWJ, POV JC, Golden Core Reveal, Teacher wwx, Golden Core Transfer Fix-It, Alcohol as a Coping Mechanism, Past Suicidal Thoughts, Post-Sunshot Campaign, WWX Protection Squad, Feelings Realization, WWX protector of the twin jades, Protective LWJ, Protective WWX, Protective LQR, Demonic Cultivator WWX, WWX is Loved, Married WangXian, Genius WWX, Everybody Lives)

if i had the strength by agloeian (M, 16k, wangxian, Canon Divergence, Post-Sunshot Campaign, Hurt/Comfort, Getting Together, Fix-It, somewhat of a case fic, Heaven Official’s Blessing inspired gods & ghosts, No Spoilers for Heaven Official’s Blessing, Mild Alcohol Abuse, Mental Health Issues, WWX is not in a great place for a lot of this fic, He Gets Better Though!, this fic is all about learning to give yourself the help you give others tbh, Baby LJY, recovery fic, Accidental Baby Acquisition)

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17. Hi I'm itmf fics that A) confront what jc was doing to demonic cultivators after wwx died and B) fics that are jc critical/not jc friendly

17A)

Symmetry by Vir_Abelasan (M, 13k, WangXian, LSZ & WWX, One-Sided ChengXian, One-Sided ChengZhui, Canon Divergence, LSZ is raised by wwx, Wwx still dies sorry, Revenge, Fake/Pretend Relationship, Dark LSZ, Manipulation, Power Imbalance, Torture, Not JC Friendly, JC’s Canonical 13 Years Murder Spree, BAMF LSZ, WangXian Get a Happy Ending, LSZ Gets to Go Apeshit)

The plagues of Jiang Wanyin by Lyna_Mei (T, 54k, WangXian, Post-Canon, Cultivation Sect Politics, Family Feels, Implied/Referenced Child Abuse, Torture, Minor Character Death, Not JC Friendly, JC suffers, Canon-Typical Violence)

17B)

to heal with the sunrise by justdoityoufucker (orphan_account) (T, 2k, Minor ZhuiLing, Canon Divergence, Not JC Friendly, Canon JC Characteristics, Bad Uncle JC, Implied/Referenced Child Abuse, Child Abuse, Healing, Best Friends, Non-Linear Narrative, Angst with a Happy Ending, Happy Ending)

These Barren Lands In Between by lingering_song (T, 4k, WangXian, JC & WWX, Post-Canon, Married WangXian, POV Outsider, Misunderstandings, Cultivation Sect Politics, Implied/Referenced Abuse, Not JC Friendly, No JC & WWX Reconciliation)

The Price of a Golden Core by AshayaTReldai (M, 9k, WangXian, Angst, Tension, Aggression, JC pays the price for his choices, demanding letters, JC is a Brat, Supportive Lan Brothers, WWX deserves the best, Life Debt, Sad Ending Sad Ending for JC)

🔒💖 Resilience. by Vrishchika (T, 7k, WangXian, Time Travel, Golden Core Transfer Fix-It, Not JC Friendly, Self-Indulgent)

on restitution by glitteringmoonlight (M, 98k, LSZ & WWX, WWX & JL, WangXian, Dark JC, not JC friendly, Captivity, Angst with a Happy Ending, no reconciliation, Crossdressing, Non-Graphic Torture, Violence)

🧡 Never Again by Hauntcats (T, 67k, WangXian, WWX & WQ & WN, Canon Divergence, Time Travel, Golden Core Transfer Fix-It, Angst, Not JC Friendly, BAMF WWX)

Meet you at a different place by tawaen (M, 57k, WQ & WN, WN & MXY & WQ, WQ & WWX & WN, Eventual WangXian, Ghost General WN, Ghost WQ, Canon Divergence, WQ comes back to haunt the cultivation world, Bad idea to kill the one person who didn’t kill anyone, Cultivation World Critical, Not JC Friendly, Wen Remnants Deserve Better, Sīsī Deserves Better, MXY Deserves Better, POV WQ)

Lay my body down by tawaen (M, 48k, WWX & WQ, WWX & WN, wangxian, WWX & JYL, Canon Divergence, Time Travel, Rogue Cultivator WWX, Eventual WangXian, No Golden Core Transfer, Not Cultivation World Friendly, Canon-Typical Violence, Not JC Friendly, What if WWX saw the first siege of the burial mounds and said Nope to the war, OCs, OC point-of-view for one chapter for plot reasons)

🔒 Bright Voice Roughly Rendered Softly Silent by Preludian_Staves (T, 26k, WangXian, Canon-Typical Violence, Canon Divergence, No Golden Core Transfer, Muteness, Hurt/Comfort, Getting Together, Not JC Friendly, Confessions, Angst, Choking, Red String of Fate, Appearances by Paperman WWX, Inventor WWX, Good Uncle LQR, WWX Goes to Cloud Recesses, Feelings Realization, Caretaking, Supportive Lan Family, Genius WWX, Angst with a Happy Ending, WangXian Get a Happy Ending, Protective LWJ, Protective Lan Family, Character Death (not wwx or lwj))

🔒 Worth of a Good Man by Vrishchika (G, 6k, WangXian, Everyone Lives/Nobody Dies, Not Jiang Sect Friendly, Not JC Friendly)

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obbystars · 11 months ago

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Hi- it's my first time ever requesting so sorry if it's hard to understand-

Could you please write a fic where the reader is somehow allowed to bring an ipod because it helps them calm down. When they reach Sebastian he just hears the music through the earphones which is something that he used to listen to before going under water-.

And it could be fluff or some ?

I'm sorry if this comes off weird but I always struggle when it comes to explaining my ideas 😭 (also English is not my first language ಥ⁠‿⁠ಥ)

Hope you have a nice day/evening/night when you read this!

(Hey! No worries! Don’t worry, I think I’ve got the idea and I totally get not knowing how to explain stuff. Huh, perhaps it’s luck that they managed to sneak or even snag an ipod off of a guardsman’s body. That seems like the most probable as I doubt Urbanshade would let a prisoner bring that in. But then again, it’s not a weapon. It doesn’t exactly fit in the criteria of detonating the PDG.)

(Also lol peek the new layout color as I went through Pressure’s badges. Found a neat badge with Sebastian ans its title referencing MatPat!)

NOTES: Sebastian Solace x GN!Reader / You loot a dead body / Near-death experience and actual death later (not detailed) / Reader has Sebastian’s document, but nothing too specific is mentioned / Angst if you squint at the end / At one point I was looking at Pandemonium’s document and the app closed me out without saving

Credits: Dividers by @cafekitsune

Dying and coming back to life had its ups and downs. One thing you’re not too sure of is how much time exactly passes as every experience back to where you started always has surprises. Maybe you go back in time, but that wouldn’t make sense as a certain someone remembers you every time. Hell, he’s even there to discuss your death with you in whatever world you’re brought to after dying. Maybe your body is just brought back to before you entered the submarine to Hadal Blacksite. That could make sense if it weren’t for the increased security. Urbanshade had to have noticed by now that one of their prisoners seems to be able to cheat death itself.

That doesn’t matter right now, you keep reminding yourself. As long as they’re still unaware.

Strangely enough, in one of your lives, you encountered a dead guardsman. It startled you at first, but tried to continue on and resist the urge to see if he had anything on him. That was until you heard music coming from him. You can’t fight the urge anymore as you approached him and searched where it was coming from. An ipod that was still functional, and earphones. Strange.

You looked around and checked each corner of the room, trying to see if there were any cameras. Surely they won’t mind if you picked this up, right? It’s not a weapon, so they have no reason to trigger the detonation. Right? It’s not like they saw you pick it up.

This guardsman definitely had a good taste in music, although a bit random. You’ll shuffle it for now and see where it’ll go from there. You pop one earphone on and try your best to hide it from sight when you do eventually run into cameras.

Once you opened the next door, you suddenly hear distant screaming. You quickly ran and hid in a locker, putting on the other earphone and turning the volume all the way up. You hoped it was enough to drown out the sound of the angler passing by. The screams the variants emit often left your ears ringing, the pink one especially since there was no warning prior to it approaching. That one’s scream was louder than the others and it never failed to instill so much fear in you that you briefly forget to hide in a locker.

Once the angler passes and knocks out the lights, you slowly crawl out of the locker. The ipod and earphones were, surprisingly, still functional. You remember reading their document during one of your deaths. All of the anglers emit some sort of EMP equivalent that results in short circuiting all electronics, sometimes malfunctioning too. So why were these still operational?

You shake your head, trying to not question it. It’s better not to anyway.

While the anglers screams were too loud, the silence they create once they pass is also nerve wracking. You took one earphone off and pulled out your flashlight to ease yourself a bit, but quickly shine it away once you hear growling and a glowing white face appears.

It was standing right next to the door. Worst of all, you need a keycard. You don’t have a code breacher on you. You kept the light lowered so you know where you’re stepping as you walk around trying to find where the keycard is. Not in this drawer, not in here either, no… It’s on a table next to a computer.

You came back to the door and can faintly see the creature still standing there. Despite the music playing, you couldn’t calm down. Still, you pushed yourself to approach the door and get out. The face the creature created stares down at you as you got a little too close, but then it suddenly eyes the keycard in your hand and sees where exactly you’re reaching. The face disappears, and so do they as the door opens.

You let out a sigh of relief and carry on to the next room. There were some batteries in a drawer. Your flashlight was likely to run out of juice soon. That was a relatively normal room, so you moved onto the next one. The vent door off to the side tips over and you can faintly hear his voice.

“Psst! In here,”

You smile and crawl through the vent to meet up with a familiar friendly face.

“Welcome back, friend,” he greets with a smile.

You waved at him as you stood up. Your eyes instantly lock onto the medical kit as that’s something you are in need of, and you’ll still have some data to spare. What else do you need… He has a lantern, code breacher, hand-cranked flashlight… You don’t hear the thumping noise of something else crawling through the vent and you don’t realize it until-

“HEY!!” Sebastian yelled.

You turned around just as the wall dweller opened its jaw, but it didn’t get a chance to do anything as Sebastian punched it into the wall. You yelped and fell back, pushing yourself closer to the table beside him. Sebastian had only beat it enough until it crawled away through the vent. It probably won’t get very far.

He turns to you, a little surprised to see you so frightened, “You really gotta start watching your own back. I’m not punching every one of those things for you,”

“S-Sorry, I was a bit distracted…” You stand up.

“I’m surprised you managed to get this far if you couldn’t hear that thing coming,”

You looked down, knowing exactly why you didn’t hear it. The music is still playing, and the one earphone you had on was blocking the sound of the wall dweller approaching. You were a bit shaken up, but the music does calm you down a bit. Sebastian watches you as you walk over to his tail to try and make a final decision, but he swears he hears something.

“What is that sound…?” He looks around for a moment before his eyes land on you, still trying to choose what to buy. He spots something in your ear and leans down, “Hey, what’s that you got there?”

You turn to him as he suddenly leans closer to you, his head right next to where the earphone is.

“I know that song. Is that Metallica?”

You stare up at him in shock, “You know Metallica?”

“Well obviously, you know I was just a regular human, right? You have my document for god’s sake,” he retorts, “How’d you even get an ipod of all things in here?”

“Oh, it’s not mine. I got it from a dead guardsman,”

Sebastian gives you a suspicious look, “I thought Urbanshade doesn’t allow their prisoners to loot dead bodies, armed ones at that. You could end up dead, but seeing as they haven’t detonated your diving gear yet, I’m guessing you weren’t spotted,”

“I guess not. There wasn’t a camera where I got this from, and I made sure to hide it from the cameras in the other rooms,”

“I’m curious to see just how far you’ll get with this thing. You couldn’t even hear the wall dweller approaching,” he crosses his arms, “I’m not sure if you’re bold or just stupid. Are you sure this risk is worth it?”

You can’t deny that he’s got a point. It gets in the way of hearing things you NEED to hear. Still, music brings you comfort so that’s what you tell him. You’ll only have both on when an angler is coming to block out their scream as they pass.

“Mhmm, and what will you do about Z-367? You know, the one they named Pandemonium? What then?”

Shit, he’s actually got you cornered there. You just sighed knowing full well you can’t just sit that one out and wait for it to pass, “Then I’ll just have to deal with it the usual way. I can still hear them through the music,”

Sebastian glares at you for a minute before he sighs, “Jeez, you really want to keep that thing on you, huh? Alright, I’m not stopping you. Just don’t say I didn’t warn you though,”

You smiled, “I’ll just say I knew what I was getting myself into and I’ll face the consequences,”

“Oh look at that, someone is finally taking responsibility for their own actions. It’s shocking how that’s so rare nowadays,”

You manage to pick up on his sarcastic tone and laughed. It was always fun talking with him. By the end of it, you picked up the code breacher with the medical kit he had, as well as a few batteries since you still had more data.

Upon your next unfortunate death, you realized your still have the ipod and earphones. Both were still fully functional, somehow, but you weren’t complaining. You quickly went into the submarine and waited for a few minutes before taking it out to actually scroll through the list of songs. You didn’t exactly pay attention to what was being played while you were there. Soon enough, you did find songs from Metallica which reminded you of the conversation you had with Sebastian.

You never thought he’d be into that kind of music. Maybe you’ll lend the ipod to him when you meet up with him in his shop again. Surely the repeated morse code on that radio has gotten old by now. You doubt you’ll last long without it though, but Sebastian wasn’t wrong when he said it hinders your ability to even hear the wall dwellers. Well, it wouldn’t hurt to give it up for a bit.

Once you managed to find Sebastian’s hideout again, you took off both earphones as you approached him, “Hey, you wanna hold onto this for me?”

You hold up the ipod and Sebastian gives you an odd look, “And you want to give this to me because?”

“I thought about what you said last time. I mean, I’ve made it pretty far without this before, so I don’t think I need it that much,”

He continues to stare at you before taking it from your hands. He inspects it, scrolling through the list of songs on it.

“Wow some of these suck,”

“I think some are pretty good,” you shrugged. You walked over to his tail to see what he has now, “Oh finally, a flashlight,”

Sebastian lowers the ipod and turns to you with a smirk, holding out his third limb, “Better pay up,”

“Yeah yeah, I know,”

Before you left, you left the earphones with him as well. It won’t do much good for you if it’s not gonna block out sound anyway, and it’s not like Sebastian will have much use of it either.

Some time has passed since you left the ipod with him. Sebastian had set it down on the desk next to him as music is being played. He remembers doing college work while listening to music all those years ago. Part of him now understands why you said it comforts you. Maybe it even allowed you to focus as it did with him.

Until you come back to eventually bring it along with you again, he’ll listen to the songs on the list for hours.

#🌑 // a gift bestowed upon you #sebastian solace x reader #sebastian x reader #pressure sebastian #sebastian solace #pressure roblox #roblox pressure #pressure

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am-i-the-asshole-official · 1 year ago

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WIBTA for calling out my friend for writing RPF?

I'm in a friend group of about 5. We've known eachother for 5+ years but I'm closest with Sam because I've known them the longest. What Sam doesn't know is that when we first met I was browsing through their Twitter profile when I found a link to their AO3, it was full of RPF of two celebrities they were a fan of. At the time I thought it was kinda weird but said nothing because the fics were quite old at this point and we were both stupid teens, I didn't see it as a big deal. The AO3 stayed up (I am embarrassed to say I checked up on it occasionally out of morbid curiosity or what I don't know) but Sam never mentioned these fics around me and a few months later I saw that the account had either been deleted or renamed and all of the fics had been deleted too.

This was about seven years ago. Although Sam would still talk about these celebs they liked in our group chats (and still does) they never brought up shipping them seriously and only talked about RPF as a joke. I never brought it up all this time because I thought that they'd moved on from writing and the jokes were part of that.

However recently Sam started posting about a new thing involving IRL people. As we usually do in our friend group we were being supportive, asking them questions and letting them infodump ETC. But then one of our friends made an offhand joke about there being fic of this thing out there and Sam totally clammed up. It wasn't super noticeable but they suddenly started trying to change the subject away from it. We let it go but something didn't sit right with me, maybe because I knew about their history with this stuff, later that day I decide to check out the AO3 tag for this thing and lo and behold, there is an account that started posting roughly when Sam started talking about it. Not only that but I skimmed through some of the fics and they had very specific quirks of Sam's writing style and grammar, one of the fic titles even referenced a song by their favourite artist! This was 100% Sam's alt account.

Here's where I might be the asshole. TBQH I don't care about the RPF, I think it's weird and I would never write it myself but it's harmless. But recently Sam has been... kind of an asshole to our other friends about their own interests. We poke fun at each other all the time but recently Sam has been upsetting our friend Kai by 'jokingly' calling his current hyperfixation cringy a lot to the point Kai has privately told me he feels embarrassed infodumping about it any more. Kai is the youngest in the group and I feel really protective of him, this got me really angry. I told him I'd talk to Sam and I will but I feel like what I want to say to them is too petty and over the line.

So, WIBTA if I pointed out to Sam that they have no right calling other people's interests cringe considering what they write? They don't know I know about their AO3, it would definitely be embarrassing for them but that's the point if they think it's okay to embarrass their other friends like this.

#aita #am i the asshole

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littlesparklight · 11 months ago

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The year Hektor, as well as Paris, got married.

(I, too, wanted to do a lineup of the main Trojan royal family/the children of Priam and Hecuba. So, here it is! Nineteen sons as the Iliad decreed, plus a handful of daughters. Everyone's loosely grouped (or not) according to in which set of multiples they were born. Lore and secrets under the cut.)

I've tried to only use names that either explicitly are called offspring of Priam and Hecuba, or implicitly so by the Iliad saying they're legitimate. The only exception being Chromios and Echemmon, of whom the Iliad doesn't say either way and who in later sources are named as sons of some mother(s) not Hecuba. I've ignored this, prioritising the Iliad's non-specificity. Partly because I'd long since decided they were sons of Priam and Hecuba when I realized that other sources made them not so. Of course, the Iliad doesn't name enough sons, so the rest come (mostly, exception Idaios) from Hyginus' list via cross-referencing with the Bibliotheke, to assure I picked names from the former the latter didn't say were illegitimate.

Everybody's ages and the timeline used does rely on ~5 extra years between Paris coming back with Helen and the Achaeans landing at Troy.

Ilione and Laodike are both already married by this point. I don't think we actually know how Bronze Age proto-Thracians were dressed, so I just tried to deck her out in something a little different from the rest.

Paris gets a white leopard pelt to make it a little more ~extra. The half-wrap sort of thing he's wearing about the hips technically come from a few hundred years later, I think (if I remember correctly), from the neo-Hittite era, but shh.

Eurydike is Aeneas' wife in the Kypria (so, she's equivalent to Kreusa), and though we don't know whether this Eurydike was a daughter of Priam and Hecuba, but I'm going with that she was (as Creusa was made so as well).

I've gone back and forth on how old Polyxena is supposed to be, and initially she has been a twin with Polydoros (mostly because I liked the matching names), but for my latest iteration I went with making her part of another mortal-demigod twin pair with Troilos as often happens, because of how her story intersects with both Troilos and Achilles. You can really see who Troilos' father is. :)

The number of daughters in addition to the Iliad-given nineteen sons have been decided by going by who has been given as Priam and Hecuba's daughter in some source, and then adding on Eurydike to that list.

I do have an alternate arrangement for ages/births (basically to be used in versions of fics that use the funeral games as background for how Paris gets reunified with the rest (when he's 16 instead), which is one where Kassandra would be old enough to have been cursed by Apollo right before Paris comes back, though this one gives the ages for the last year of the war: Hektor, 40 Ilione, Laodike, Antiphos, 38 Helenos and Kassandra, 36.5 Paris, 35 Deiphobos [Kreusa/Eurydike, Pammon and Polites], 34.5 This would also work out to have Deiphobos younger than Helenos, as some versions note as he is a strike against him in his fight over Helen with Helenos, who is said to be older.

#greek mythology #the iliad #trojan family #priam #hecuba #paris of troy #hector of troy #deiphobus #troilus #lightart #cassandra of troy #polyxena #I sure am not tagging ALL the names in this

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rookamell · 7 days ago

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Ok here is my very long very annoying post about my headcanons concerning the political situation in Antiva. And when I say long... whoo boy. Anyway I was thinking of an alternative Crow plotline for my fic cause the one in game is sort of... not good but then I realised I needed to bring a lot more in than we got in game and now here we are. I cannot express how much this is NOT a Lore Post. I am using the lore as a jumping off point for my own ideas/interpretations. That being said, let's get to it!

So Setup:

Personally I think that the closest time period we can use as a real-world equivalent would probably be Renaissance era Spain/Italy. So I would like to also preface this whole thing by saying I am by no means an expert on Renaissance era Spain/Italy and I'm not trying to be. I will just be referencing very basic concepts to fill in some of the holes left by what we got, i honestly don't even refer to it that much lmao. Just like I'm referencing the dragon age lore. Please don't throw bricks at me if I get something wrong.

This really isn't that serious I just needed to get all (some) of my thoughts down in writing.

Future me here I finished this and it got so rambly by the end I'm so sorry. I wish I was one of those people who could make coherent posts but alas. I am here to go off on tangents.

Part I: The Players

Antiva during and leading up to Veilguard is described as having three major political players. The King, the Crows and the Merchant Princes. I'm going to discuss how I think Antiva functions by going through each of these factions pre-Veilguard, during the game, and perhaps a few headcanons for what the country might look like in the aftermath. Obviously this is going to be dependent on world state so I'll try to be as broad as I can but I will also mention how my specific worldstate is going to play out in my opinion.

I would also (because this is very important to me personally) like to add a fourth player in this game, which is the Chantry. The reason I would like to add the Chantry into this equation is because we have Zevran mentioning that Antiva is a very religious country in Origins, as well as Teia and Emil's conversation where they explain the Crows have their roots as monks who were living near Treviso, which I will get into later. I also am adding the Chantry into this, because if we look at our real world inspiration of the time, the church and the papacy was responsible for many of the artistic advances of the time as well as responsible for crowning the rulers of various kingdoms that were beholden to the catholic church.I know there was a choice between three in Inquisition but for the purposes of these specific hcs I don't think it makes a difference? That much of a difference? I'll talk about the different divines if there is a need to.

So the four major players we're dealing with are:

1.) The Antivan Crows

2.) The King of Antiva

3.) The Merchant Princes of Antiva

4.) The Orlesian Chantry (And therefore Divine Victoria)

Part II: Antiva In General Terms

a.) Known and Established Lore

Ok, so to start off, a quick google search of "Antiva" will tell you the country is a Plutocracy, defined as 'a country or society governed by the wealthy' or 'an elite or ruling class of people whose power derives from their wealth'. Which immediately points us not toward the King, but toward the Merchant Princes.

In fact, here is the entry on Antiva on the wiki which I assume is taken from tWoT though I will add here that I have not read either of the World of Thedas books and honestly probably won't lmao.

'The Principality of Antiva, or simply Antiva, is a plutocratic nation in northeastern Thedas known for its wine, sailing and merchants. Although it possesses few resources of its own, Antiva's location makes it a center for trade in the north. Antiva's wine trade, buoyed by its fruitful vineyards and an aggressive approach to trading practices with other nations, is one of the country's main resources, allowing for a relatively prosperous life for its citizens. Its capital, Antiva City, is one of the wealthiest in Thedas for that reason. Antiva generally takes a neutral and passive approach to cross-border conflicts. While it has no standing army of its own, the reputation of the Antivan Crows, the deadliest guild of assassins in Thedas, is generally enough to deter other nations from open conflict.'

We also know that Antiva has no standing army, that the country avoids invasion and annexation for the most part through the reputation of the House of Crows, as well as extensive blood alliances created by queen Asha Campana, who married her children and grandchildren into noble familes from Nevarra, Orlais and even Tevinter in the Black age, so that any hostile action against Antiva from one of these nations would result in war with the others. It's implied these alliances are still in effect as of the Dragon Age.

The Wiki also mentions that Antiva functions as a sort of city-state much like the city states of Italy during the renaissance but I want to take that one step further and say that the cities in Antiva such as Antiva City and Treviso function as independent city states much like cities such as Venice and Florence during the Italian Renaissance period (But more on that later). I'm also going to add here that the Merchant Princes are mentioned as each having their own independent army.

More facts we have from the lore is that when dragons reappeared, they started appearing in Antiva, and in the Steel Age, the Qunari invaded, which resulted in the First Exhalted March in 7:25 Storm. The Second Exhalted Match ended in 7:52 Storm (no specified start date) and the result was most of Antiva under Qunari occupation. Treviso is mentioned as having been burnt down by the liberating Imperial and Orlesian Chantry forces. In 7:84 the Llomerryn Accord is signed, the Third Exhalted March ended, and Antiva is freed from Qunari occupation. Oh, and it was also one of the places devastated by the Fourth Blight, but none of these things is going to particularly impact us in Veilguard imo

b.) My headcanons

So we have a lot of factual lore concerning the state of Antiva up to the Fourth Blight and the Third Exhalted March, but not much after the dragons reappeared and the Dragon Age started. I'm going to go by category here to make it easier for myself.

1.) The King.

The king of Antiva isn't really mentioned in Origins, since Zevran has little and less to do with him. It's mentioned that the Crows are very much present in the politics of the country, since nobles vying for the throne hire different Houses to assassinate political opponents. Why exactly nobles would want the throne is a different matter, since it's made pretty clear that the king doesn't really have much power within the country itself.

This leads me to believe that the king is still very much needed for international politics. A figurehead of sorts that is necessary for communication with countries like Nevarra and Orlais, who still very much put stock in the tradition of noble blood. (Though king Marcus is a special case probably). The king or Ruler of Antiva may be a figurehead, but they are a necessary figurehead and, perhaps more importantly, a figurehead that can be bought, more than say an elected official or a council of merchants of beaurocrats.

Oh! I just thought of this. Obviously also those marriage alliances with other countries would only be alliances to whatever noble families were married to each other. Duh. Whoever wants to keep those alliances valid/active should probably keep someone who is blood related alive.

Another aspect is perhaps that the king functions sort of like the ruler in modern day Britain i.e. a figurehead but still the head of the state. So most of the land in Antiva belongs to the royal house (I read the name somewhere but also it's implied it doesn't really matter and is also very iffy and i can't remember rn. Campana?), and can thus be taken away or awarded by the crown should the need arise. I also toyed a little with the idea of the king perhaps functioning like the Pope did during the renaissance, which is the Pope is necessary for the kings of the city-states to be crowned in the eyes of god. Perhaps city officials like Ivenci are beholden to the king? But I like the first hc better I think, since the king wouldn't have the authority of the Maker behind him. That would be the Chantry.

Another hc I like is that the city officials like Ivenci answer to the king theoretically. They are the ruler's representatives on a smaller scale, elected by the people or perhaps chosen by the king, though of course corruption and bribery could influence them toward either the Merchant Princes or the Crows.

Viago also says in a blighted Treviso run that the king may be persuaded to build aquaducts.... is the royal house responsible for infrastructure? That would make sense since I'm assuming the merchant princes would be more about trade and self-interest. Although they would probably also be funding stuff like that since harbours/trade routes/roads have to be maintained. Delicate balance there.

2.) The Crows

The Crows. Everyone's favourite murderers (sorry, Lucanis. Assassins). So just for now I'm going to describe the Crows as they are presented through Zevran's eyes in Origins. Ruthless, cunning, deadly. The Crows buy orphans from whorehouses and steal children off the street to train as fledgelings. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if some of the houses dealt with the slave trade? Buying promising children and selling ones that didn't measure up for more funds instead of having them killed?

First of all I would like to say that I think the noble and working classes of Antiva are two completely different things. I've said this before but I don't think the average Antivan has anything to fear from the Crows whatsoever because I don't think the average Antivan citizen can afford them, or really do anything to warrant someone hiring them to kill them. I think it's fine for Veilguard to say the Crows are folk heroes because 1.) they're cool assassins 2.) they supply gossip and spectacle 3.) they're the only protection the average Antivan knows they have against other countries and invasion and 4.) they contribute significantly to trade, the arts, infrastructure, and culture in Antiva.

Some basic set up I think where I differ from most people in their hcs is that 1.) I think there used to be a lot more houses that were blood related instead of bought or foundlings, and 2.) I don't think Houses are as big as many people seem to think.

For 1.) I think this was one of the reasons House Dellamorte and Velardo fought each other so viciously (but more on that in Part III). And for 2.) I think there are maybe at maximum six fully fledged Crows (Including the Talon if a House has a Talon) in a House at any given time.

I think the Crows mainly make their money because of the nobles vying for the throne and because of the Merchant Princes wanting to kill each other. But I think they make a lot of money. The other way I think they make money is through the king/queen/princes. If there are international threats, the best way to put a stop to them would be to send one of the Crows (probably one of the First Talon duties). There are obviously also noble houses from other countries that use the Crows, and here I'm thinking specifically of Nevarra (assassination attempts on King Marcus) and Tevinter (Magisters trying to kill political opponents). I'm fairly sure Orlais would probably also use them, and I'd even go so far as to say if you could afford to have someone killed by the Crows instead of the House of Repose, that's probably as much of a political and financial statement in The Game as the actual assassination. But I digress.

I also hc that the Crows have A Lot to do with the Chantry in Antiva. But more on that later.

So. Here is where I get stuck a little bit.

I have no idea how the Talon stuff works. It makes sense to me that each Talon would have an area of operations inside of which they are the sole house who takes contracts. De Riva in Salle and the surrounding areas, Cantori in Rialto, and the others... idk I think someone on here posted a detailed division once, with the First Talon able to override these boundaries in special cases. Which may or may not also contribute to tensions within the Crows and Houses wanting to seize the title of First Talon for themselves.

What I don't understand is exactly what each Talon rank means and also how the succession works.

I'm basing this on the fact that Teia and Viago both hold their positions as Seventh and Fifth Talon respectively after 8LT and don't move up and down the ranks, but it seems to me the position of each House's Talon is based on the strength of the House itself instead of it being a promotion based thing. OR the titles (apart from First) are more to designate control of a certain area than to actually indicate power. OR a combination of both. I would welcome input on this. OR it could be a designation of certain tasks, but I think that's unlikely. I also reread 8LT for this and Teia says at one point that Dante would do well to stay on Caterina's good side because 'not all resources and influence are equal" meanwhile he's the Second Talon? Makes no sense. So I'm sort of leaning towards Talon denominations being more geographical than anything else *at the time of 8LT*.

Now that I'm thinking more about it, I kind of like the idea of the First Talon and their House getting first pick of international contracts, and whatever they don't decide to take gets passed on to the lesser Houses. I also think that because the Crow Houses aren't as big there are a lot of smaller, less powerful houses that have sworn service to the Taloned Houses, and they would use these as informants and spies or if a larger force is needed. Maybe they even pay a tax or a dividend of sorts to the larger/Taloned Houses if a contract is completed?

I also think that each House, and especially the ones with Talons, are very much left to run completely independantly from one another. In this way I think this is almost a smaller version of the papal states, where the Pope (First Talon) would be the ceremonial leader but each state (House) had their own ruler and thus their own way of running and doing things.

I also think this is part of what Caterina was trying to change in the face of an invasion by Antaam, since it would make the Crows a stronger united force BUT this would also mean the First Talon has more direct power and we can see why this wouldn't exactly be a welcome change for most Crows and especially the other Talons. I reread 8LT and this is sort of almost basically confirmed by Dante planning to marry Lera. But this is also more complicated than I originally thought because of Lera's family. I'll get to that tho.

Very recently saw one codex entry in Inquisition that implies there are 'retired Crows'. Now playing with the thought that each House (or the Houses that do this) have a sort of witness protection program for old/distinguished Crows that can retire should they want to. This just shocked me little bit when I saw it because it contradicts the whole 'leaving the Crows is a death sentence' thing. Or perhaps this one guy in the codex just got out and happened to evade them long enough to set up a merchant business? Oh, Dragon Age. Gotta love it.

3.) The Merchant Princes

So here we come to the crux of what I think is missing from Antiva in Veilguard. The twelve Merchant Princes.

Here is what the wiki has to say about them:

'They are not princes in the literal sense, but heads of banks, trading companies, and vineyards, each with a personal army, and each locked in a constant struggle against all the others. They possess sufficient capital to resolve any external diplomatic quandaries with a well-aimed purse or threat of withdrawn trade'.

The wiki also says specifically that there are a dozen of them. This implies, at least to my mind, that 'Merchant Prince' is a title, or a position that can be earned. But then Josephine in Inquidition mentioned a dozen of them arguing at a council. So perhaps it's about wealth/amount of wealth?

I'm assuming that the twelve of them are from rich families, and I wouldn't be surprised if they had ties to Antivan and even Orlesian and Nevarran nobility as well. And apparently some of them have ties to the Crows as well.

It makes sense to me that these Merchant Princes would play the same roles as the rulers of City States in Italy. So they would be in charge of a certain area of Antiva more so than public officials like Ivenci. These officials would then be in charge of the cities themselves but most likely in the pockets of the Merchant princes (edit: since its implied the king is in charge of infrastructure maintenance I'm assuming these officials work for the 'state'). I'm assuming each of them is in charge of a merchant company much like the Dutch East-India company, and whichever city's harbour they use would be dependent on what they can afford. I would also assume that trade agreements with other nations would go through a sort of Merchant council and would then be signed off by the king. This would mean these twelve people and their families would have considerable power over trade agreements, and it would then also make sense that they each have a standing army with knights (I'm going with Cavalieri as opposed to Orlesian Chevaliers.) bit these armies would not be under the control of the king, making the king reliant upon the Merchant Princes both for economic and military reasons, though the standing armies would then be offset by the Crows, which would function as assurance for the king. Theoretically.

(I'm also assuming any slave trade that the Crows are a part of would also have to go through the Princes, and they would also profit from it)

I also think that city officials would be in charge of the every day run of the city, but deep in Merchant pockets, since that is where the money is. But more on that later.

So above is an extfact from Blood and Beauty which is a book about the Borgia family. In this scenario (which I'm using as a comparison) Cesare and Caterina would be on the level of the Merchant princes, while the governor would be Ivenci -> in charge of the every day run of the city in the name of the ruler (the king). Does that make sense to anyone else?

Anyway I'm open to more headcanons concerning these bitches tho because I'm sure they play a much bigger role in politics than has been discussed so far but I'm not into politics enough to make everything up myself. Mostly they would have the money to get things done. That's probably the bottom line.

4.) The Chantry

The wildcard. The other one that isn't really mentioned in Veilguard.

So Zevran says that he is a devout Andrastian 'like most Antivans' and regularly asks forgiveness for his sins.

I'm going to take this and run with it, because I love the idea that Antiva is a deeply religious country much like Spain and/or Italy.

Even in Veilguard, what mentions there are of the Chantry point to this being true as well. Well, the one mention of it ig. The towering Chantry building with Crow symbols on the walls.

But anyway, back to the general headcanons.

So Zevran also mentions in Origins that the templars in the Antiva City Circle watch the mages like a jealous lover. I also get the impression, and I think this is from some conversations with Josephine as well as various codex entries (but correct me if I'm wrong), that Orlais and Antiva are culturally and religiously very linked (as well as closely linked by blood, much like Orlais and Nevarra). This leads me to believe that the Circles would function very much like the Circles in Orlais, meaning some of the more powerful enchanters and templars would perhaps be able to be let out of the Circle for social engagements and entertainment, and family members of the royals as well as the Merchant Princes would probably be treated better than other mages, especially the Merchant Princes since they'd be able to afford bribes. I'm also of the opinion that mages could probably be hired by anyone with sufficient connections and money as entertainment, healers or enchanters. Perhaps even employees or servants. The difference here being I think it's a lot more based on money than it is social hierarchy like in Orlais.

Which brings me to the Crows. So the Crows obviously employ mages and these mages obviously use blood magic. I think it's mentioned in one of the short stories or books but people smarter than me will have to tell you which ones. It's also mentioned by Teia in 8LT that the Crows began as a group of monks who poisoned a duke who was terrorizing their village. Coupled with the fact that there are Crow symbols visible in the Chantry in Treviso where we find Zara, I think that the Crows and Talon Houses probably generously pay the Chantry. I haven't decided yet whether I think this means the Merchant families pay the Chantry as well, but I'm leaning toward not because I don't think it would be as important to them with the type of power they have in Antiva. I don't think they would think it necessary.

All this to say the Crows probably pay the Chantry, which in turn means the Chantry probably turns a blind eye both to the mages in the Crows and the blood magic these mages may employ to complete their contracts. I also think this probably means that the Crows get a an annual or biannual pick of mage apprentices should they need/want more mages in their Houses. This obviously depends on the amount of money donated and the proximity of the Crow House domain to the Circle. (I'm only 100% sure that there's a Circle in Antiva City)

Which I think would also contribute to the average citizen's respect for the Crows, seeing as they are obviously backed and endorsed by the Chantry, and Antivans are all religious. I do think the Exhalted Marches to get rid of the Qunari probably also played a part. Like of course you're going to be thankful to be out from under occupation? Even if it was a couple of hundred years ago. The Chantry probably blamed the burning of Treviso on the Qunari.

Part III: Antiva in the Lead-Up to Veilguard

So this is the part where this is going to be almost completely headcanon.

1.) The Crows

I'm also going to be taking a lot of inspiration from @saessenach 's incredible fic (On Pride, Freedom, and Treviso) because honestly that was a very good explanation for why exactly houses Dellamorte, Cantori, and de Riva are all in Treviso during Veilguard, and we don't really hear about the rest.

But before we get to that, let's go back to 8LT.

In 8LT Caterina summons all of the Talons to a meeting to discuss how to deal with the looming Antaam threat. Now, putting aside everything to do with the Qunari, lets look at what 8LT means for the Crows.

1.) Caterina is trying to unite them in a single purpose: Stopping the Antaam invasion and going to war with them. And 2.) most of the Talons do not agree with this 'unity of purpose' thing she wants to impose.

So before I think I've said that House Dellamorte and House Velardo were probably some of the last blood-related Houses, but apparently I was wrong because House Nero and Valisti exist. I do stand by what I said tho in the sense that I think Caterina would (after her whole family got murdered in a vicious House war) understandably want to move away from that, both for the longevity of each individual House but also for the longevity of the Crows as an establishment (Which I think she is very concerned about at this point. Which is why neither Viago or Teia were blood-related to the previous Talons of their Houses, and I'm betting the other Houses were starting to move away from that too. I actually think Caterina may have been a big reason for both (or at least Teia's) advancements in the Crows, specifically for that reason. You could also infer that she was trying to find more 'idealist' Talons but I don't really think she cares about morals as much as it just making more sense and being easier logistically as well as being less bloody in the long run. And having people she knows will back House Dellamorte as well.)

So both Veilguard and the supplemental materials as far as I'm aware don't mention the fate of any of the other Antivan cities after the Qunari invasion, which leads me to believe that Treviso was not the only city that was attacked, but it might have been the only city that is under occupation. Correct me if I'm wrong.

I don't think it's that far of a stretch to have Caterina, Teia and Viago in Treviso during Veilguard and none of the other Houses. Teia says in 8LT that Caterina has been like a mother to her since she joined the Crows. (Which could mean a lot. It could mean so many things Caterina please let me inside your brain) but Caterina's very obvious manipulation of a talented young girl aside, It wouldn't be that much of stretch to say, ok, Caterina is staying in Treviso because obviously that is where her family home is and that is the city that is in the most danger. She wants to make a statement about the Crows being the protectors of Antiva (again her motivations here are infuriatingly vague but I think it's mainly based on longevity) and I think she knows Teia will come to Treviso to help (Both because she feels like Caterina is family, and because of her idealism), and drag Viago and House de Riva behind her like a lost puppy. (Here again I point to @/saessenach's incredible fic which I've basically adopted as canon lmao)

The other Houses though? I think they cut their losses and ran to more fortified cities. Probably threw their lot in with some of the Merchant Princes and acted as protectors for pay. Here I will also bring up that Lera Valisti, Emil Kortez, and Bolivar Nero are three Talons in 8LT that are all mentioned as being either Merchant Princes, part of merchant families, or very rich. Tbf, all three of them are dead by the end of that, BUT perhaps their Houses cut their losses and ran? The odds of Treviso and Caterina making it out of an occupation were probably slim to none, which means there would be basically all the Talon positions open for the taking in the aftermath. In fact, Emil Kortez allied with the Qunari, and I wouldn't be surprised actually if more houses did that, or at least promised to stay out of it in exchange for assurance that they/their assets wouldn't be harmed. I also don't necessarily think this is a bad thing, since this was obviously a choice between the Crows and their assets, and it exposed to everyone which Crow Houses were still Crows, if that makes sense, and not more allied with the merchant side of things. Like I know Caterina and the Dellamortes had vineyards that they obviously earned money from, but those burned. Caterina let them burn. She chose the Crows and Antiva and I think she's probably going to let everyone know that.

Anyway. Here is where I think the game doesn't give us near enough information about the occupation. Treviso is a merchant city and a harbour. Where are the Merchant Princes, where is the Chantry, and where is the king?

2.) The Chantry

So the Chantry, at least, is easy. The Chantry can't order an Exhalted March on Treviso because the Qunari did not attack or annex the city as a unit or under the banner of the Qun. It was a rebel Antaam warlord that attacked, so declaring an Exhalted March may result either in the rest of the Qunari declaring war on the Chantry, OR the other Antaam warlords banding together in the face of a common enemy. It could also result in Treviso being burned to the ground a second time, which would mean a lot of people dying. It could also have the effect of forcing Orlais, Nevarra and Ferelden into an unwanted war. The main point is, this wasn't a religious attack, so technically the Chantry can't act. (I also don't really think that who you have as Divine would make that much of a difference here, even if it was Cassandra or Leliana, just because I think something like an Exhalted March would probably be decided on by more than just the Divine herself)

3.) The King

I think the king (also just assume for the purposes of efficiency when I say 'king' I mean him and the rest of the noble class of Antiva) is hiding in Antiva City behind the highest walls he can find. I don't think any nobles could do anything else without an army, which they don't have unless they have a sufficient amount of funds to hire an army. But where would you find an army big enough to go up against the Antaam?

I also think he's sort of in the same boat as the Chantry here, where if he attacked the Antaam it might cause more trouble than there already was, and through those marriage alliances we spoke about earlier might involve too many people. Also I feel like attacking one Antaam general might also cause the others to put aside their differences and strike back as a unit? Maybe not, but interesting to think about. Especially if it's something like a royal army doing the attacking.

I do think the Antaam (The Butcher) went for the city with the least amount of defences and that's probably why it was annexed. The other generals might have been driven off? Or perhaps there are cities currently under siege.

I think the line from Viago about the king maybe building aqueducts sort of implies that he is still able to do that, it's just that everyone else has sort of given Treviso specifically up as a lost cause, perhaps until everyone can reach an agreement to attack the Antaam together?? hmmmm. Lots of space there for haggling over land/trading agreements and using armies as leverage against the king. OOOOOOHHHH I didn't think of that. Anyway.

4.) The Merchant Princes

Again. These fuckers.

I think that *in theory* it should have worked out that if a city like Treviso was attacked, the Merchant Princes would have helped the Crows retaliate if only to protect their own trading interests. Treviso is a harbour city, so it would make sense to try and repel the Qunari? BUT and here is where i think things get dicey when it comes to the very delicate balance of power in this Makerforsaken country- it's explained in 8LT that some of the Crow families ARE merchant families too.

So was it interest in Antiva that made Emil side with the Qunari to kill the Talons? Or would war just impact his trading too much for him to make a profit? Again, three out of the eight Talons double as the heads of merchant houses and Dante bought his way into it as well.

If we look at it like that, it's sort of obvious that Caterina would definitely want to move away from Talons like that and more into the realm of people like Teia, Viago, and even Lucanis eventually.

I think this is also why - as a lot of people have rightly pointed out - Ivenci is correct when he says the Crows are not the solution. The Crows as they were leading up to Veilguard were 1.) hoarding wealth and power into a few select families and thus probably impacting trade and relations within the country and 2.) heading for collapse. They were going to collapse in on themselves.

I think the Merchant Princes either joined forces with the king in Antiva City to stay protected there and took their armies with them (As I mentioned above, perhaps this was an opportunity for some of the merchants and some of the smaller Crow houses to maneuvre themselves into a better position by helping the king), or went to whatever property/business they own and fortified themselves there. But as Ivenci says - where does that leave the common Antivan? If the nobles, merchants, and Chantry either can't or refuse to interfere, who do they have left?

So yeah, Ivenci is right, Antiva can't go on the way it was, because the balance was shifting too much towards a specific side. Antiva works as a country because all these systems work together to further Antiva's interests instead of their own. Which... you know. Is very idealistic and would never actually work but this is fantasy Italy/Spain so whatever. Also I don't really think selling a city out to the Antaam was going to fix what was broken lmao.

Part IV: Antiva During Veilguard

So here we get to the actual game, I'm going to break this up into established fact vs headcanon again to make it easier for myself.

a.) Established facts

1.) The King

The king is in Antiva City and the Crows (or at least Viago) are reporting to him on their movements. I don't think he's mentioned again, but I honestly haven't gone through every codex entry to check.

2.) The Merchant Princes

*cricket noises*

3.) The Chantry

*even more deafening cricket noises*

4.) The Crows

Houses Dellamorte, Cantori, de Riva and their respective Talons are in Treviso fighting the occupation. Other, smaller Houses (I'm assuming working under Dellamorte in Treviso) are mentioned, but there are no mentions of specific other Talons other than during Murder of Crows, where they gather for Illario's dinner party. (Why the fuck they would come to occupied Treviso for a party instead of trying to kill him to take First Talon is beyond me but I digress this is what we're told in game)

Teia, Viago, and Caterina are still Seventh, Fifth and First Talon respectively.

b.) Headcanon time, baby!

1.) The King

Is probably still hiding in Antiva city, not lifting a finger. I bet there are so many people scheming during this time of upheaval to take over the throne. I bet there's basically a A Clash of Kings situation happening in that palace, and I think Josephine Montilyet is literally the only thing holding the country together in some sort of order, because of course she's in the thick of it. There's probably a lot of Crows trying to get on the winning side of some of those power struggles because having the favour of the King/Queen, even if they don't have that much practical power is probably still a status symbol, and half of being a powerful Crow is about your image. Like half of what makes the Talons theoretically untouchable is the belief that Talons are untouchable.

2.) The Merchant Princes

If I had to bet I'd say that half of them probably made the same deals with Antaam generals that Ivenci did, just better. Idk I don't really understand how the rest of Antiva was untouched and Treviso was occupied. I'd go as far as to say the Qunari were probably making deals with these fuckers when they were still trying to invade Tevinter, for ships and passage. I mean they had to go through Antiva a little bit to get to eastern Tevinter? Unless my geography is off, which honestly it could be.

These guys are probably safe in their villas with their armies. Maybe some went to Antiva City to try and get in good for lucrative contracts/marriages?

In my patented New and Improved Crow Questline, I think I'm going to go as far as to suggest Ivenci was trying to join them, and become the new merchant prince of Treviso (Doubly engaging now that I know house Valisti was the previous owner of that title, but I assume some of them got murdered after 8LT. RIP). I think Ivenci was sort of being like 'well, I'll figure out the Antaam situation once I get what I want. Also obviously I'm doing this for the good of the People'. I think they were right in the sense that having a Talon also be a merchant prince of a city would perhaps not be the best for the people involved in the city? aka would result in the Duke terrorizing the town that the Crows were created the combat in the first place.

It's just so strange to me that Treviso is the only city mentioned to be occupied. If anyone has information that proves me wrong there tho feel free to let me know. It would make me feel better.

Sorry future me here adding on that some cities probably were under siege and holding out. Probably depends on the Antaam general. I think the Butcher was probably the only one that saw value in defenceless trade-city Treviso because he's a weirdo(affectionate).

3.) The Chantry

I THINK THE CHANTRY IS STILL ACTIVE IN TREVISO.

Especially during a qunari occupation I think the Chantry could be such a powerful propaganda tool for the Crows you don't understaaaand. The city was attacked by a dragon! Who is giving out medical supplies?? Who is giving people shelter and helping with rebuilding? Who is giving people hope?

In VG it's sort of implied that the Crows are doing all these things but if I was the Butcher and I had a bunch of assassins in my city I'd be trying to kill them so quick. If the Antaam sees a Crow on the street they should kill first and think later. Don't mind the fact that this is a big plot point in my fic.

So yeah the Chantry is out here feeding/healing people and not-so-subtly reminding them that the Crows are protecting them as best they can. Because the Crows finance the Chantry, it would be a mutually beneficial propaganda relationship. A symbiosis, if you will.

I just need the Chantry to be more present in Veilguard. Like... more than I need air actually.

This could also mean that Lucanis/Viago actually get a tip-off from one of the Chantry sisters that Zara is in the Chantry doing very un-Chantry like things because what do you mean they have a whole massive Chantry in a very religious country and no one notices the giant pool of blood in the basement bioware

It could also have been fun if your choice of Divine impacted your faction strength maybe? Like if you have Cassandra there and the Circles are intact you have a leg up because that means the Crows still get their mages, same with Vivienne, but less of a boost. Leliana would be the least since the Circles are disbanded. Fun to think about. Other than that I don't really see how which Divine you have would impact anything BUT feel free to add thoughts in the comments if you have any because I'm sure people do have a lot of thoughts about that one.

4.) The Crows

My incredibly ineffective murder hobos... First of all, ain't no way Teia/Viago/Caterina did not immediately figure out it was Ivenci that sold them out. You could tell me that they didn't have any proof so they couldn't act on it without just making things worse, but they knew. Sorry.

Second of all, why are they still running around the city as if they own it? The Diamond I can understand, maybe Teia can act like it's a legitimate buisness. Maybe the Butcher even gambles there some days when he wants to truly experience Treviso, but I think if any of the Antaam even thought they saw a Crow on the street it would at least be a fight.

Anyway I basicallt already said what I think the Crows are doing. Teia/Viago/Illario are in Treviso trying to (very ineffectually) end the occupation. I can sort of buy that it isn't working because they're not used to facing threats like this. The other Talons are probably in other cities or in Antiva City with the king. If it was me, I would be waiting for the three of them to get themselves killed fighting the Antaam so that I could take over First, Fifth, and Seventh Talon. I actually don't understand why no one took over First Talon anyway (or at least tried to) after Caterina died, so I'm choosing to believe Lucanis/Illario/Teia/Viago agreed to keep the news from spreading outside the city. I don't think communications with the other Crows are great, but there has to be some at least, since Viago could communicate with his father, and Illario could invite all of them to his lion king Scar moment.

So basically what I think the Crow questline was supposed to be is making sure that the propaganda of the Crows being Antivan folk heroes spreads as far as possible. They should have been trying to set the king/merchant princes up as failures that left the people of Treviso to their fate, and the Crows were the ones that stayed. And these specific Crows were the ones that stayed. I have vague notions of some sort of request for aid being pinned up in the market square or something by Viago where the king in a letter refuses to send help and the merchants sign it or something idk. I need Ivenci and the Crows to be engaging in a publicity war during an occupation with Teia and Viago desperate for Rook to figure out how to beat the Butcher so they can blame Ivenci once and for all and take the city back. (But that's all in the works and also very personal wish fulfilment lmao)

As for Illario and his whole thing... I'm not gonna touch on Zara cause I have before and also she's not a part of this.

The other Talons come to Treviso to see Illario ascend to First Talon. If it was me I would have killed him the second he started talking. Why are you letting him monologue about his abomination brothercousin when you could just kill him and become First Talon? Maybe they were scared of the other Talons killing them for the same reason?

Also interesting to note that there are eight Talons present at this party so Caterina found new ones to replace everyone who died during 8LT. I'm assuming it was Caterina because she's just Like That. And also she seemed to have a pretty particular vision of how she wanted the Crows to look in future.

I don't actually have a huge issue with Lucanis ending up First Talon anymore(I did, but I've since rethought it) because 1.) I think it's very important to him to still know that Caterina loves him despite the abomination thing (and still giving him First Talon is very much her giving him the highest approval she possible could, in both their eyes, even if it's more just a title until the game ends, even if there are complicated dynamics attached to that decision) 2.) I don't think he'd be a bad First Talon, and 3.) I think he's such a contrarian if anyone told him he wouldn't be a good First Talon the first thing he'd do is turn around and prove them wrong. Whether he Likes being First Talon is a different story and whether everyone agrees on the definition of 'good First Talon' is another different story. I also think being First Talon gives him control over his life like he's never had before? But I digress this post isn't about Lucanis.

By the end of Veilguard (if you save Treviso) I'm of the opinion that the Crows come out the most powerful of these four factions (where before I think they were fairly neck-in-neck with the Merchant Princes) but again I'd like to hear what everyone thinks of that one. I just think they would have the support of 'the common Antivan' as well as an even better reputation for saving the country. They would basically be untouchable folk heroes.

I do have... thoughts about Caterina and Lucanis having to deal with the Houses that basically left them to their fate in Treviso. In the next section.

Adding to this as well, I don't think all of the Houses that were not present in Treviso necessarily fully gave up on Caterina and the others. Some of them were probably the reason they could still communicate with the king and others outside of Antiva, some of them were probably bringing in supplies. Idk. Much to chew on.

Part V: Antiva in the Aftermath of Veilguard

This is probably gonna be the shortest part of this whole thing cause I have the least opinion on it.

Borderline, though, 1.) the Crows have to become more of a centralized unit. 2.) the Merchant princes have to become less powerful. 3.) the Chantry... honestly the Chantry in Antiva seems to work? Idk apart from Zevran's comment about the templars in Origins I haven't heard many complaints so I assume whatever is wrong with the Chantry in Orlais is also wrong with the Chantry in Antiva, i.e. it would depend on your choice of divine what the state of the Circles is like. For me with Vivienne there... i have a lot of thoughts about Orlais that could probably fill another post like this tbh. So we won't go there. 4.) I would in no other circumstances say this ever but the king should probably have a bit more of a horse in this race lmao. The whole point of Antiva and Antivan politics is that everything has to be in a very delicate balance in order for it to work and if that power sways too far to one side then everything falls apart i.e. the occupation happens. I think anyone writing post-canon fic has to think about how this balance can be rectified/maintained with the players given to us on the board.

Though my problem with both the Shadow Dragon plotline and the Crow plotline is that the Veilguard writers went with the solution of 'if we put the right person in charge of this broken system then the system will fix itself' instead of 'we need to come up with a new system'. But I digress I enjoy trying to work with what we're given. With this franchise it's always a very unique challenge.

The only other post-canon thought I really have is that there is definitely a year or two of Lucanis and Illario (because I did not imprison him, deal with it) dealing with the other Houses attacking and trying to take over First Talon. I also think Caterina insists on Lucanis/Teia hunting down the Talons and Houses that didn't help during the occupation for sport (which may not be all the Houses tbf). So there's another new crop of Talons 1-2 years post-Veilguard. I also do think the Crows do become more centralized with methods and rules, if not with their contracts/commands, if that makes sense?

#veilguard headcanons #i'm so sick of this post I'm not proofreading it #feel free to add/discuss i would love to hear more ideas/thoughts/opinions #treviso #antiva #antivan crows #caterina dellamorte #governor ivenci #dragon age #datv #dragon age the veilguard #meta

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delta-lethonomia · 3 months ago

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PLOT SPREADSHEET POST

Like a lot of authors, I reached a point where my plot could no longer be contained in simple ways. I tried a specific word document in which I listed the overall plot and chapter-by-chapter synopses, but once you're ~40 chapters into a thing even that becomes unusable. I tried flashcards. I tried Scriveners built-in cork board feature. Nothing quite did what I needed it to do, so in the end, I turned to....

...google sheets. Yeah buddy I'm a firm believer that (nearly) every problem can be solved with a spreadsheet! Trust me, I have a business degree and no job, so therefore I have a lot of time on my hands.

First, to appease my ego and show off this bad boy I'm very proud of, a blurred look at the Act 3 plot spreadsheet:

(it does go further down but that's where the monitor cuts off.) (green, btw, is the chapters that are finished at this point! We've got a lot to go!)

Now for the structure, and what I would recommend for anyone struggling to balance a million plot threads and characters:

This is a little bit from the first 3 chapters of Act 3 of For All the Wrong Reasons.

Line by line, we have:

Arc: This arc is called "Tav's House", as it's all about showing Tav's life in Rivington and her home. This is good way to think of units of chapters together and I use color highlights to bind them together, so I have an idea of thick a particular arc is getting.

Title: Self-explanatory. Tbh I usually don't put anything here, maybe a particular word that stands out or is memorable.

Summary: A quick overview of all the scenes in the chapter, and why it was important.

Number: Chapter number - I only started doing this in Act 3, otherwise this would be much higher. Also useful for "parts"

Notes: Anything important not mentioned in the summary or in individual plot lines. This could be something like a certain vibe, or the impression a character not listed below had.

Everything below this is a PLOT THREAD. Looking up, Column A contains the box saying "PLOT THREADS TO RESOLVE". Columns A and B and freeze paned, so they remain on the screen at all times as I scroll to the right. This keeps the details of whatever plot thread I'm working on at hand even if I'm working on chapter 48 or whatever.

PLOT THREADS contain both specific plots as well as character arcs. Above, I have listed "GOO" - i.e. Great Old Ones Warlock, which is what Tav is, so you can safely assume this has something to do with Tav's patron. To the left are the questions/outcomes I have for this thread so I am always reminded that my plot needs to hit these points as I move through.

Then, chapter by chapter, I fill in these boxes with the details mentioned in certain chapters and how they moved that plotline forward.

For characters, let's look at Lae'zel and Wyll:

This is a good way to keep track of what characters are thinking or what they did. Also a great way of keeping track of what they're feeling! As Astarion is a huge character in this fic but who doesn't get to express his feelings at all times, this is how I keep track of what is going through his mind, and what information he has.

As this is BG3, I have a group line as well, because otherwise you start referencing characters for an event that they weren't even there for.

Further notes: I tend to highlight the column of the chapter I'm currently working on, and then turn the summary box for that chapter green once it is posted. I also highlight other columns if they have something really important I still need to work out, and I have a couple of highlighted boxes that might need to be moved around. I also keep other plot notes further down for stuff that should fit somewhere, but I haven't quite found a home for yet.

Anyway, it's a bit tedious to update but this keeps me focused and aware of my plot lines at all times! Hope this helps some people :)

@megacharicific thanks for asking I really wanted to talk about this lmao

#delta.txt #bg3 fic #wrong reasons fic #fic writing

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purple-obsidian · 1 year ago

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Thank you for answering my last ask, can I have your take on if the girl in ur last fic hadve gotten just a TOUCH more frightened after the knife incident and started openly weeping when jason started touching her (i feel like she was already on the brink) would he keep going? I don't think that would feel consensual to her, especially after the knife thing. It already feels like she's ½way a prisoner, given the fact that he just goes and re-abducts her when she tries to leave. Does he already understand that what he's doing is very dubiously consensual, and he's going ahead anyways bc he dgaf, or if she were to point out that Jason's got the threat of violence constantly hanging over her head and that she can't safely deny him without jeopardizing all her bones and her mental welfare then it would bring him up short? It really seems like Jason understands she doesn't really want him physically (at least not in the way he'll have her) and he's just gonna plow on ahead bc she did not specifically say no. “Will you get mad at me if I say no?” I think he would. I think he understands shes afraid already.

[fic referenced]

you're welcome, anon!

if reader had been more outwardly emotional and made it very clear to him that she didn't want him touching her, he would have stopped. i am not saying that jason's behavior is right or correct in any way (this is dark fiction, remember) but if reader would have told him to stop or pushed him away, he most likely would have gone to the couch or just turned over and internalize the rejection, giving reader the silent treatment.

to answer the next part, does jason know that what he is doing isn't exactly consensual or right? its complicated. i want to give a quick disclaimer and say that the reasoning i'm about to explain is not any sort of justification for similar behavior irl, this is just what is going on in the mind of a very traumatized, very broken fictional character with a devastating backstory.

the first few weeks reader was living with jason, he probably would have let her leave if she said she wanted to. if she disappeared? he would have gone looking for her, absolutely. and also be pissed that she didn't tell him where she was going, and that she went out on her own. in my little au, joker planted doubts about jason and reader's relationship in his mind just like he manipulated jason's feelings towards bruce and the others. so upon their initial reunion, jason was skeptical and angry, and was kind of expecting her to leave. but after weeks of constant reassurance and promises, he finally started to believe reader, even though his insecurities remain. once he started putting the smallest bit of trust and faith in reader, that's the point where he would not allow reader to leave. even if she wanted to, jason has it in his head that she promised to be by his side no matter what, and he would cling to that and use it to guilt her and justify him keeping her, potentially, against her will. [he wouldn't force himself on her physically, but he would for sure keep her from leaving.]

homeboy is in the middle of trying to de-program all the shit joker put in his head, he is constantly second-guessing his relationships and the people around him, and his relationship with reader is the only steady presence he is allowing himself to trust. so if she decided to go, at this point, he would fight tooth and nail to keep her. he would most likely be in denial, and cling on even tighter.

he can see that reader is scared, but he is so scared himself that it's hard for him to focus on anything else. the physical and psychological torture he went through has, in my mind, left him so broken when it comes to bonds and relationships that some of his logic is just not there anymore. i imagine this makes it even harder for reader, too, seeing him work on establishing himself in gotham's underworld and being so cunning and sharp when it comes to executing his plans, but being so sensitive and snapping at her and his men if the wrong thing is said.

joker taught him that fear is the ultimate tool for control. jason may deny it, but he's taken those lessons to heart, whether he realizes it or not.

appreciate your thoughts, sorry this took a while to answer.

xoxo sid

#[sid answers]#ak jason todd #arkham knight #[xoxo sid]#ty for the ask <3

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seventh-district · 8 months ago

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Dying Star

In the back of your mind, you recall something you once heard, something about light, and time, and distance. Space. Something about... how you can still see a star that's already burnt out, because its light hasn't reached earth yet. The ghost of a star that's already died. Only still perceptible thanks to time, and distance.

You remember Sam's words, once whispered to you on this very roof.

"Whatever your choice is... I'm not gonna live forever. I made that decision a long time ago."

You think about dead stars.

You think about time.

- - - - - - -

Sam’s words have been weighing heavy on your mind ever since you discussed your shared future and the various forms it could take. You didn’t realize just how heavy they were until it all came spilling out of your tired mind on a late night spent together beneath the stars.

Pairing: Sam x Darlin' / Reader

Word Count: 4,053

Contains: [angst] [a dash of humor] [a hint of chubby!Sam bc i like 'em strong and soft] [crying] [cuddling (dub-con cuddles with Quinn in the past & consensual ones with Sam in the present)] [emotional hurt/comfort] [implied/referenced dub-con sex (nothing graphic) (in the past between Darlin' and Quinn to be specific) (refer to my Ao3 notes for further explanation)] [mentioned Quinn] [not quite Dissociation i guess but Darlin' does zone-out/get lost in thought more than once] [pet names (Darlin' (obvs.) and honey)] [Reader is Darlin'] [Sam wears a cowboy hat bc i said so] [some passive suicidality from Sam if you squint (hell, maybe you don't even have to squint)]

A/Ns: Well, well, well, here I am, the person who said they wouldn't write any Redactedverse fanfic. I recently felt a mighty need to expand upon the blurb I wrote in this post, and I'm braving my fandom anxiety by sharing it here. pls be nice 2 me abt it

Timeline-wise, this fic takes place sometime after the ‘Talking About the Future With Your Vampire Mate’ audio but sometime before their presumed eventual departure from the house that William gave Sam, given that they've already had the 'turning' discussion but are still on the same roof in this fic.

This is a songfic, inspired by and quoting verses from 3 songs. Those being:

‘Dying Star’ by Ashnikko feat. Ethel Cain

‘Fix What You Didn’t Break’ by Nate Smith

‘No Plan’ by Hozier

The roof of Sam’s house is far from a ‘cushy’ place to relax. But as you lie here next to him under the stars, a knowledge settles within you that you wouldn’t trade the rough shingles beneath you for the softest mattress in the world. Not if it meant there’d be anyone other than him lying next to you.

Some people might counter that it’s an easy thing for you to say, given the number of nights you’ve thrown a balled-up shirt onto one end of a worn-out couch and called it a bed. But some people don’t know you as well as they think they do.

You’ve known luxury. Quinn might’ve been just as content taking his fill on a seedy motel bed as he was wrapped in silks at a Hilton, but he knew how to play up the luxe when it served him to do so. And in the early days as he worked to lure you in, it did. Plush sheets and expensive drinks helped to soften the preordained blows and dull the imminent pain that your nights with him held.

Once you’d latched onto the bait though, he let the act drop one piece at a time, like props collapsing on a stage. After all, what was the point in all of those frivolities when you both knew what you really came to him for? It wasn’t to be wined and dined, it wasn’t to be dressed up and shown off, and it wasn’t even to be slowly stripped of it all, laid out across the rolling clouds of a pillowy mattress.

It was to be used. Tranced. Restrained. Bitten. Drank from. Choked. Hit. Edged. Denied. Made to writhe and whine and bleed and plead. Plead for more, for less, for nothing, for anything. Anything to quiet your mind and fill the ever-expanding void inside you where you suspect love was supposed to live.

That’s what you both really wanted.

At least, that’s what you told him you wanted.

That’s what you told yourself.

You only got what you asked for.

To your right, Sam stirs, stretching gently with a yawn. The soft noise he releases as he does so reminds you of where you are, and you trace back through your thoughts to find how you got so lost.

…Right. Luxury.

While your relationship with Quinn certainly changed over time, you never forgot what it felt like in the beginning.

You remember nights laid next to him, body sore, mind quiet. Quinn’s idea of aftercare was lacking to say the least, but you had nothing better to compare it to at the time, and you’d take what you could get. At least your head felt empty, and the bed was soft. Exhaustion would pull you under soon enough.

The mattress, sheets, and pillows enveloping you were likely worth more than you even made that past month. ...Or several. You found that display of luxury hard to be impressed by though, when it wasn’t the type of comfort you’d been seeking.

As Quinn shifted in his presumed sleep, pulling you in tighter, you didn’t fight it. You found yourself unwilling to fight anything he did, like his mere presence was enough to drain the fight right out of you. You told yourself that you were okay with that. Because you wanted it.

Lying there with your head on his bare chest, you took a deep breath and told yourself that you liked the stench of cheap cologne, poorly masking the cigarettes and alcohol on his breath. You silently told yourself that you liked everything. You liked the pain that he chased with hints of pleasure. You liked the loss of power, the way you couldn’t fight back if you wanted to once he looked you in the eyes. You liked all the things he said, no matter how much the truth might hurt.

He was right, you supposed. Your desires, the things you craved, the depravity that you so enjoyed, wasn’t normal. It was uncommon, unusual, and in the eyes of some, unfathomable. To possess such dark desires, there must be something truly broken inside you.

How lucky you were, to have found someone willing to indulge you. Someone that could give you everything you wanted, and be so kind as to keep it a secret too. He promised that word of the things he did to you, the things you let him do, would never get out. You remember the way he held your hand as he told you, falling for the guise of sincerity in his eyes. You remember his warm smile, and his razor sharp teeth.

You remember seeing that exact same smile on his face through one-way glass as he sat across from Sam and told him everything.

You stood in that room and thought back to those nights of luxury. To the feeling of his nails ghosting over the freshly healed punctures in your neck. To the way he held you against him. You remember laying there, lifeless, feeling like prey playing dead. Afraid to move, afraid to disturb him. But why? He hadn’t threatened you. He never told you that you had to stay. He never said that you couldn’t move, or pull away. So why did you feel that way?

As you stood, helplessly witnessing hours of his slander in that interrogation room, you understood. Your rose-tinted glasses had long since shattered, and you saw that smile for what it was. It was the smile of a man playing a dangerous game, brimming with satisfaction, thinking he’d won.

The radio near you begins to crackle, static obscuring the hosts voice as they announce the upcoming song. Sam doesn’t even open his eyes, just raises a hand and reaches out, blindly adjusting the antenna of the old device.

You’ve teased him for holding onto it for so long, as he is wont to do with damn near all of his possessions. But as you watch him deftly extend and angle the antenna with practiced care, the response he once gave you proves itself true once again.

“I don’t wanna replace it, Darlin’. It’s not broken. It just needs someone who knows how to make it sing again.”

The static clears, and music flows through the radio’s old speakers once more.

You watch Sam return his hand to its prior position beneath his head, acting as a makeshift pillow of his own. The way he’s lying has his hat pushed forward, and it’d be doing a damn good job of shielding his face from the sun if it weren’t somewhere around midnight at the moment. Still, it suits him somehow, despite its lack of any practicality. All he’s missing is a stalk of wheat between his teeth and a tree to lean against and he’d be the spitting image of the cowboy he swears he isn’t.

His other hand rests on the soft curve of his stomach, rising and falling again as he breathes. He’s the image of peace in moments like these, and you’re drawn to it like a moth to flame. Maybe one of these days you’ll find some of your own, but for now you’re more than content to bask in his.

As you admire him, he takes a slow, deep breath and you mirror it on instinct. The grounding practice helps you leave your mind and return to your body, if just for a moment. In doing so, you realize just how tense your ruminations have made you.

You relax your hands, releasing the blanket beneath you from your iron grip. You brush your palms over it, worried that you’ve torn the fabric once you realize that your nails had halfway shifted to claws. You don’t fret much over damage to your own possessions, but this blanket is Sam’s and you’d hate to ruin it. Though, you suppose he doesn’t prize it too much or he wouldn’t have laid it out here across the roof in the first place.

“If I buy somethin’ it’s because I wanna use it. Now quit frettin’ and get over here.” You recall what he told you earlier as he patted the blanket next to him in invitation, and you smile.

Doing a small stretch of your own, you release the tension in your shoulders, turning your attention back to the stars above you. For a while, you let the soft music wash over your tired mind.

“I asked him not to kill me politely. He drained my magic core, bottled up at the source. I washed up on the sea glass shores. I’m nobody's captive.”

In spite of your best efforts to relax, you’re still subconsciously futzing with the loose threads of the old blanket beneath you.

You’re made aware of it when Sam reaches a hand down, gently laying it over yours and effectively stilling your anxious motion.

“Burning like a dying star, invasive weeds rooted in my heart, set in a crooked trajectory. The journey here was hard, I was almost pulled apart. Trying to leave his orbit took what’s left of me.”

You flip your hand over beneath his so you can hold it properly, lacing your fingers together.

For reasons beyond your understanding, emotion tightens your throat, the threat of tears pooling in your eyes.

…You must be more tired than you thought.

As minutes pass and one song fades into another, your gaze dances across the blurry, scattered points of light in the dark sky.

“You were the star in the pitch black, shine the way on the way back. Out of nowhere, answered all my prayers.”

Sam’s always been so much better at identifying stars and finding constellations. But as the music plays, you begin to see one of your own.

“Picked up the towel that I threw in, took in a heart that was ruined. Showed me the past ain’t a tattoo, loved me even when you didn’t have to.”

“Sam.” You squeeze his hand to get his attention.

He squeezes back in acknowledgment. “Hm?”

“I want you to look at something.” You swallow back the emotion that tries to seep into your voice, but it catches his attention all the same.

He leans up and lifts his hat from his head, setting it aside near the radio. He then reaches to turn a dial back, lowering the music’s volume to give you his full attention.

You release his hand, raising yours up as he turns back to face you. You don’t say anything at first, nearly too lost in your own mind to realize you need to actually voice your developing thoughts.

"What—what're you pointin' at Darlin'?"

Your hazy focus is trained on the brightest star visible in your line of sight, arm stretched out to the sky above you. "That really bright one, to the... to the left."

Sam does his best to follow your less-than-specific directions of 'to the left', your pointed finger doing little to help given the difference in perspective. Luckily, after all these years, he knows this stretch of night sky like the back of his hand, so it isn't hard to locate the brightest one. Ghosting his fingers up along your exposed wrist where your sleeve had slipped back, he takes your hand in his again and brings it back down to earth. "Okay, yeah, I see it now. What about it though?"

"That's you." You say, matter-of-factly.

"That's me?" He questions, humor in his tone.

"Mhm." You nod with finality, blinking slow.

Sam considers the odd statement for a moment before gently correcting you. "I'm uh, I'm pretty sure that's Sirius, actually."

You scoff. "I am being serious."

Sam stifles a laugh. "No—no I mean—like... what's another name for it... Oh, it's also called the Dog Star."

"C'mon Sam, at least call it the Wolf Star if you're trying to turn this around on me..."

He shakes his head and readies himself to explain further, but you cut him off before he can start. "But no. No, this isn't about me. That's you."

He decides to play along, finding something endearing in your overtired nonsense. "Okay... then would'ja be so kind as to explain to this confused old man just how, or why that star is me?"

Your frown is audible in your voice as you latch onto the wrong part of his sentence. "You're not old, Sam. ...Do I need to tell Asher to kick the jokes down a notch?"

He smiles at your over-protectivity. "There'll be no need for that, now. Was just a joke, honey, I promise."

You huff, but begrudgingly shift focus back to the prior topic. "It's... I dunno. It's just you, Sam. It's... bright. Light. Something warm, out there in the cold dark. Standing out amongst all the rest. Calling to me, stealing my attention.”

Sam’s brow furrows as you continue to explain, realization setting in that you really are being serious.

“I... I didn't come out here looking for it, but there it is. ...And there you were. In the dark. The only bright thing I'd seen in... fuck, in years. Years of chasing fleeting warmth, tripping over myself in the pitch black, falling into... places and people that I shouldn't have. You were the light in that darkness. Even there, at Wonderworld, surrounded by the ghost of him. Your warmth, your presence, your aura—even with all of your walls up, you outshone it. Your warmth didn't hurt. I didn't have to squint when I looked at you. You weren't the blinding sun. You were the brightest star I'd ever seen. You guided me home."

You remember Sam's words, once whispered to you on this very roof.

"Whatever your choice is... I'm not gonna live forever. I made that decision a long time ago."

You think about dead stars.

You think about time.

"...-lin'? Darlin'?" Sam's calloused hand squeezes yours tight, his urgent tone pulling you out of your thoughts. "There you are. Think I lost ya' for a minute there... you good?"

You look up at Sam, concern creasing his features, faint shadows cast across his face from the light of the dying stars above him.

You reach out, pulling him down into you. He falters for a moment at the sudden proximity, but quickly embraces you in turn. Burying your face into his collar, Sam's concern grows when he feels it saturate with tears. A human might struggle to hear your words, muffled against the thick flannel, but his hearing catches them just fine.

"Don't burn out too quickly. Please. I still need you here. I don't—I don't wanna be left in the dark again. Please, please Sam. Don't leave me here. I'm not selfish enough to ask you for forever, but please. Not yet. Not yet. Not yet."

The words feel like a weight being lifted from your shoulders, but with it comes a flood of emotion they’d been holding back. You cry harder into him, and as much as it pains Sam to witness, he lets you feel it, for as long as you need.

Your fear of losing him manifests itself physically, nails curling and sharpening again. When he feels them prick his skin through the fabric of his shirt, he calls your name but doesn’t pull away. Instead, he leans further down into you, letting his weight ground you. “Darlin’, I am right here. I’m not goin’ anywhere.”

As you eventually cry yourself out, enough wherewithal returns to you to realize that you should probably release the poor man from your grasp, and the awkward position you pulled him into. When he pulls away enough to see your face, you notice a string of snot running from your nose to his shirt collar. Quickly batting it away out of embarrassment, you cringe, voice thick as you apologize. “Eugh, gross. Uh… sorry. About that.”

He shakes his head, laughing good-naturedly as you wipe at your nose with your jacket sleeve. “It’s completely fine, honey. After all, I’ve been covered in plenty of your, uh… various fluids before. When you come from my line of work, this is child’s play.”

He leans to his right, reaching back and pulling—of all things—a handkerchief from his jeans’ left back pocket. You laugh at his words, and at the sight, but with how congested you are it turns into more of a hacking cough than anything. Accepting his offering, you blow your nose into the black patterned fabric.

As soon as you can speak somewhat clearly, you can’t stop the teasing remark that slips out of you, gesturing with the wad of fabric in your hand. “You know, you really aren’t beating the cowboy allegations with stuff like this.”

He rolls his eyes but his soft smile remains. “It’s a practical thing to have on me, ‘allegations’ be damned.”

You shake your head with a smile of your own, but don’t disagree. As you’re visibly unsure what to do with the dirtied fabric, he takes it from you, setting it aside. “I’ll toss it in the wash when we go back inside. Along with my shirt, and…” He eyes you for a moment. “…that jacket of yours too, given how long you’ve probably been wearin’ it.”

Normally you’d argue that it hasn’t been that long, but come to think of it, you actually can’t recall when you last washed the thing.

Reaching up and rubbing your temples, you already regret your crying fit as a headache begins to set in. “Fuck, Sam... I’m sorry for… whatever that just was. I don’t know what came over me.”

His expression falls into something serious again. “You never need to apologize for feeling. And it certainly seems like… you needed to feel that.”

You nod quietly, but don’t elaborate, prompting him to question you gently. “Darlin’. What was that about? The—the askin’ me not to leave. Are you… afraid that I’m gonna leave you?”

You close your eyes, weighing out your response. “…Not in the sense that you’ll break up with me or something, no.”

His gaze narrows and his head tilts as he rolls your answer over in his mind. “If it ain’t that, then—” He remembers how you mentioned ‘forever’ and cuts himself off as the puzzle pieces start coming together. “Oh. …Oh, Darlin’, no.”

You open your eyes to watch as he shifts from leaning next to you, moving to sit up beside you. “Is this about what I told you, when we sat up here and had our uh… turning discussion?”

You hate to admit it, but you nod in confirmation. “…It’s your choice, Sam, and I never want to take that away from you. I shouldn’t have said what I just did, I—I don’t want to make you feel guilty, or like you have to stick around for my sake. But I’d be lying to you if I said it hasn’t been playing on my mind. The thought of you… leaving. Like that.”

He reaches up, running a hand through his hair. “I… think I maybe should’ve been a bit more clear, when I said that. Because I wasn’t talking about any time soon. I didn’t want to give you the false impression that I plan on sticking around for centuries, but… I also wasn’t trying to imply that I’ve got plans to do it next week either.”

You bolt upright, voice cracking. “Next week?! I sure as shit hope not!” You grab your head, pain flaring and suddenly dizzy from the quick shift in position.

He places a hand on your shoulder to steady you. “I’m not, honey, I’m not. Did you catch the rest of my sentence? I’ve got no plans to leave this world any time soon. I promise.”

You groan, head pounding. “I heard you, I did, I just—fuck, I don’t even wanna think about you leaving so soon. Here I am, stressing, thinking I’ve only got—I don’t know—some odd years left with you, and…” You sigh, trailing off.

Sam stays quiet for a minute, letting the crickets sing.

Eventually, he interrupts their chorus. “…Can I get closer to you?”

You nod. “…Please.”

He closes the gap between you, carefully wrapping a strong arm around your curled shoulders. “You’ve got way more than a couple years. I promise you that.” Your tension begins to ease a bit as he clarifies. “You… you’ve helped me find a life that I actually feel like livin’ again, for the first time in a long time. And I want to experience it with you for as long as I can.”

“…Really?” Your voice sounds so small, so unsure, so… unlike you when you question him that he wants to kick himself in his own ass for the role he unintentionally played in making you feel this way.

“Yes. Really. I mean—” His voice takes on an edge of humor. “If you decide to set your sights on the year 3,000…” He shakes his head. “I don’t know about that. But as far as the 21st century is concerned? …I think I’d like to see it through. For as long as you’re there to see it with me.”

His words cause fresh tears to well up in your eyes, and you sniff in an attempt to hold them back. The sound catches his attention, and he leans forward, thumbing across your warm cheek. “…I’m makin’ you cry again…”

You shake your head, clearing your throat. “No—No, it’s okay. It’s good. They’re… they’re good. It’s… relief.”

He breathes out a relieved sigh of his own. “Yeah?”

You nod, leaning into him. “Yeah.”

As you rest against each other, breathing in the cool night air, you nudge him with your shoulder. “Can we… lay back? For a bit?”

He squeezes your arm in gentle confirmation. “Of course.”

He twists and reaches back to straighten the wrinkled blanket beneath you, before laying out across it himself. The radio crackles as he turns the volume back up a bit. Watching him with tired eyes, you smile at the sight of him patting his chest in habitual invitation.

“Sit in and watch the sunlight fade. Honey, enjoy, it’s gettin’ late. There’s no plan. There’s no hand on the reign. As Mack explained, there will be darkness again.”

Curling up against his side and laying your head on his chest, you release a heavy sigh when his hand comes up to rest on your shoulder. As his fingers press rhythmically into the tense muscle beneath them, you breathe in his scent. Black coffee and wildflower honey… he smells like home.

“Your secret is safe with me, and if secrets were like seeds, when I’m lyin’ under marble, marvel at flowers you’ll have made.”

You reach your hand out across his broad chest, slipping beneath his open flannel and sliding down to rest on his waist. He sighs, relaxing further beneath your touch.

“My heart is thrilled by the still of your hand. That’s how I know now that you understand.”

Yeah, you’ll take this over ‘luxury’ any damn day.

“There’s no plan. There’s no race to be run.”

Laying there with him, listening to the low hum of the radio, the moment grows so comfortable that you almost hesitate to break it.

“The harder the pain, honey, the sweeter the song.”

“…Sam?” You whisper into the night.

His hand sweeps across your back before returning to your shoulder. “I’m here, Darlin’.”

“There’s no plan. There’s no kingdom to come.”

You smile. “I… I’d like to be there, to be here, to see it through with you, too.”

It takes him a moment to recall exactly what you’re referring to, but when it hits him he hums a low understanding tone, clearly pleased. “Then let’s see where it takes us, yeah?”

“But I’ll be your man if you got love to get done.”

He presses a soft kiss to your temple. “We’ve got plenty a’ time.”

A/N: Thank you for reading, I hope you enjoyed. You can find my extensive notes and commentary on this fic right here on Ao3. My Sam & Darlin' Playlist My Sam Playlist My Darlin' Playlist My Sam & Darlin' Moodboard My Sam Moodboard My Darlin' Moodboard Header Image Credit: Gage Smith on Unsplash

#redacted audio #redacted asmr #redactedverse #redacted sam #redacted darlin #redacted fanfic #redacted fandom #sam collins #samuel collins #redacted tank #fanfiction #fanfic #my writing #one of my last Redacted posts didn't make it into the tags. which wasn't a big deal since it wasn't something important #but i spent some real time and effort on this fic so if tumblr yeets This post into the void i Will cry. and then painstakingly repost it #i've got big feelings about Sam and y'all r gonna see it whether u like it or not /lh #anyways hey this fic was unexpected. and much like Midnight Hour the production time was relatively fast thanks to the power of Fixation #i was gonna post the next chapter of Heaven in Hiding and then work on a Boothill oneshot and then maybe the [N]MbD New Year's fic #but i've been feeling Some Kinda Way lately and i guess i needed to project it onto Sam. so this fic took precedence #i humbly offer my first contribution to the Redacted fandom. pls don't attack me if they're OOC /hj #i'm out here doing my best to walk the line between canon compliance and self-indulgence #also i know that bright thing in the header image i used can't be Sirius. it's gotta be like. a planet i think? not sure which one tho #i've never even seen a planet that bright but my sky isn't all that dark so maybe they Can look that bright in some places #idk. the image description on Unsplash doesn't say. but 'planet' is in the tags so that's my guess #the only thing i've seen be that bright in the night sky 'round here is military flares. but maybe it's to do with how the photo was taken #a n y w a y s point is. the star Darlin' sees isn't That bright but the photo was too fitting not to use

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hexhomos · 2 years ago

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HI! hope your day is treating you well, i’ve been interested in doomreed for some time but cape comics are sort of daunting to me just because there’s so much content and i really don’t know where to begin. what do you suggest? thank you!

STRAIGHT OUT THE GATE ill say, read [ "My Dinner With Doom" ] (this is a rly high-qual upload, open it up on desktop!)

It's a key issue oneshot with a lil bit of backstory retelling, featuring a private dinner that happens in the 00's - a good entrance point if you're curious about doomreed in summarization + generally speaking a Real Good Comic overall.

LONG POST INCOMING THIS IS A LONG POST / click readmore

the fantastic four are one of marvel's darling old founding teams so there is pretty much... endless archival, ongoing, multimedia and games content popping up all the time.

They are also kinda one of the rare teams where the growth of the characters is consistent? The kids are allowed to grow older and events from every major run are carried/referenced by the next author so if you want to do chronological there's a lot of incentive and fun stuff.

If you wanna dip your toes into the F4 as a concept, check out:

*the #1 issue of Fantastic Four By Waid & Wieringo (1997) *Mythos: Fantastic Four (2007) [ *The FF (1994) movie that is up for free on youtube!! ] *Fantastic Four (2022) by Ryan North as the current ongoing!

(Some) Singles centered on Doom/Doomreed:

*Fantastic Four (1961) Annual 2 is Doom's original backstory issue *Marvel Two-in-One (2017) by Zdarsky issue #11 & Annual #1 are both crazy good but they spoil big events/conclusions from previous runs if u care abt that!!! (My current fav fic came from these issues.) *Doomgate (novel) by Jeffrey Lang is a good option if you want something that is mostly prose, instead of a comic or movie

NOW BEFORE YOU JUMP AHEAD WITH ANYTHING I *am* following [ this reading guide ] which breaks down specific issues relevant to their relationship as a line through all the different authors over the years.

[ There's also this 2021 guide w/ a few other story/AU highlights! The author said u can send the blog questions and theyll answer too ]

The 'Modern era' (late 90s/00s/10s/Now) Starts with Waid and McDuffie's stuff. The latter wrote My Dinner with Doom!

If you're scared by all the names, don't be - when searching for the issues, just pay attention to the year, # number & author/artist creds.

What I'm reading/liveblogging rn is Hickman's Secret wars era, generally regarded as yaoi ketamine; It's a good epic narrative entrance point if you want to jump into it, and it eventually led into this huge marvel event that changed the multiverse and even brought miles morales into the main timeline, so its BIG and it happened in multiple books - the best way to go about it is;

Pre-hickman:

Fantastic Four (1961) #551 #552 #553 ➡️ (these introduce main ideas we will touch again in secret wars)

Fantastic Four (1961) #558 to #562 ➡️

Doom appears in these too, first/last issues more heavily. Stuff here will be ref'd during the next era.

If you're having fun and want to keep reading you can! Just know that the next storyarc has gathered a largely mixed response bc..... its Millar going hammywammy....... not that necessary.......

anyway when you see hickmans name in the cover STOP and

Jump to actual Hickman secret wars era:

Fantastic Four by Jonathan Hickman: The complete collection➡️

(optional, side plot) If you like Val + Doom, read specifically; *Fantastic Four (2014) #3 & #5 + Fantastic Four Annual (2014) #1 *Agent of Asgard #6 & #7 *Avengers World (2014) #15 & #16

New Avengers (2013) ➡️ check issues on picture, or, if you're a completionist, look for 'Avengers by Jonathan Hickman; complete collection' and skim for the doom/reed relevant bits. There's a lot of characters here but this is a buildup to the big secret wars. Secret Wars (2015) ➡️ (All issues!) Infamous Iron Man (2016) ➡️bendis' doom writing is not very good but hang in there because right after him: Marvel 2-In-One (2017) ➡️ (All issues!) is a banger. Yaoi btw.

You can basically read all the future/past ones as listed, or starting from the beginning of that author's period without worrying, bc they aren't as indebted to each other storywise.

You can also start somewhere else if you want or check out other single issues on the reading guides; It's not a crime! There's a lot of stuff with different takes and genres, I'm slowly chipping away at the secret wars era bc its just very thick and like a serious television drama attempt, except its also insanely funny sometimes.

(I'm still making my way through it so that's what I have at the moment!)

#doomreed #doctor doom #reed richards #victor von doom #marvel comics #reading guide #hexposts #fantastic four #dr doom #mr fantastic #mister fantastic #marvel #meta tag #fic rec

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wetcatspellcaster · 4 months ago

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63 & 64? ;)

lmao... looks at my currently open gdocs... YOU DON'T KNOW ME.

63. Something you hate to see in smut

Hmmm. aside from any standard squicks, no-go tags, etc.... I hate it when the smut sands down the characters so that they could be any barbie doll type figures smushing together, when specificity is lost and it starts to feel like a generic, paint-by-numbers scenario.

by which I mean, when the smut puts characters in roles and they have sex in those roles, rather than being the people I wanted to see/imagine/picture having sex. I think the most standard example of this is m/f pairings where the man is immediately hypermasculine breeding kink daddy dom-esque, regardless of who the fuck that man is supposed to be. even if he had potential to be like that, to begin with! literally anything is possible, if the character work is there! but, if it's done a certain way, sometimes the dialogue will come out as a standardised script, and it's like the spirit of Rhysand from ACOTAR has suddenly possessed their body. I hope I'm describing it right. I hope I'm making sense. I can't be alone in this.

like, I'll be honest... I'll read a breeding kink daddy dom fic. I've frequented that sacrament. but dear god, do the work to make me believe that it's the character I wanted to see in the first place, and not just a faceless actor wearing an elaborately coloured wig.

64. Something you love to see in smut.

not to have two sides of the same coin, but I like it when the opposite of the above happens - when something unique takes place that breaks the standard m/f painting by numbers script. don't get me wrong, I don't need any of that 'uniqueness' to be remotely realistic. I still prefer my smut in the mind-blowing 'this was the best sex they ever had, and they come x number of times' variety. but if the situation/position/choreography (for want of a better term) is memorable or unusual in some way, if the dialogue both in and outside of the sex is on-point, then that becomes a fic I probably revisit, or recommend to others!

also, and i feel like this is obvious at this point, I like a yapper :) there's a reason why I keep referencing dialogue in these answers :) good dirty talk makes or breaks the experience for me :)

writers asks!

#devil's sacrament attendence: confirmed #asks #anons #get to know your writer #i see you. whoever's on anon.

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wangxianficfinder · 7 months ago

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Fic Finder

Dec 27th

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1. Fic finder request!

Misnmian has a ghost in her apartment and ends up calling LWJ to go with her to meet WWX to get rid of the ghost. I don’t remember much other than she had to make the ghost soup or something? And then Wangxian hooked up at the end. I think it was short but had lots of cool details. Plz help!! 🥲

FOUND! wuchang by auberjing, hotpotluck_chaoscollective (M, 4k, MM & WWX, MM & LWJ, WangXian, Modern, Supernatural Elements, LWJ & MM Friendship, Past MM/WWX, MM & WWX Friendship, Businesswoman MM, Medium WWX, Professor LWJ, Cooking, MM's journey of self-discovery, Friendship, Self-Discovery, Family Feels, Bisexual WWX, Bisexual MM, Aromantic MM, Implied Sexual Content, Hopeful Ending, Family History, Additional Warnings In Author's Note, folk religion)

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2. hi, i can’t remember if i saw this fic on here or twitter but i can’t find it now and i’d really like to. all i remember about it is that the summary said that lwj and wwx hadn’t seen each other in a long time (might be exes) and wwx was now a famous singer. does anyone have an idea which fic it might be?

FOUND? Talisman by Witch_Nova221 (M, 192k, WangXian, Modern AU, Eventual Romance, Theatre, Rock Band, Childhood Friends, Implied/Referenced Child Abuse, Implied/Referenced Spousal Abuse, Implied/Referenced Drug Use, Hurt/Comfort, Angst with a Happy Ending, Fluff, Stalking, Minor Character Death, Friends to Lovers, Mutual Pining)

FOUND? 🔒 B-Side by Suspicious_Popsicle (M, 47k, WangXian, Modern AU, metalhead x classical music teacher AU)

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3. hello!! i was wondering if you guys could help me find a fic- i was literally just rereading it not that long ago but for some reason i can’t find it. It’s a modern au of wangxian in which they are already married. Wwx was planning to go visit the jiangs for an event but lwj doesn’t want him to bc of of how they treat wwx poorly. They have an argument abt it and wwx eventually still goes, leaving lwj to sulk but over the next few days they still call each other constantly to check in even when they’re upset at each other and yeah it’s just fic of wangxian bickering like an old married couple @makkachiin

FOUND! tipping point by cherrywhiskey (M, 13k, WangXian, Established Relationship, Angst with a Happy Ending, Hurt/Comfort, Married Couple, Married Life, Bickering, Idiots in Love, Fluff and Angst, Humor, Fights, Arguing, Making Up, Kissing, Angry Kissing, Making Out, Modern, POV Alternating, Fighting, love and loyalty through petty fights, it gets intense before it gets better, but only coz they're SO IN LOVE, WangXian fighting, no seriously, this is just a fic where husbands wangxian have a fight, like typical married couples, then they make up and make out, lots of banter)

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4. Hi! I'm looking for a fic where wei wuxian cross-dresses in burial mounds settlement days for hiding identity reasons, ends up enjoying being fem-presenting as much as masc, and saves the Wens by marrying LWJ as his fem identity. This fic is not My Leaves Reach Ever for the Sun for at least 2 reasons: 1st, Wwx's fem name had "lian" (I thought it was something really simple like lianhua but now I'm second guessing) in it for lotus. In LRES it was a ning yinying instead. 2nd, he was genderfluid/genderqueer, whereas in LRES it seems to be just cross-dressing. I remember one specific scene where WWX as his fem self is "meeting" lqr for the first time, and LQR approves of her a lot more than wwx lol

thanks for your help :) @classygreydove

FOUND! Wei Wuxian, Who’s That? by bumbledees (T, 48k, WangXian, Mild to Moderate Pining, lotus pier siblings quietly also have a penchant for chaos, WWX will make LQR like him whether the old man likes it or not, WWX just wants to have fun and not be killed, and also to go to his sister's wedding, WWX is more stubborn than a boulder and twice as dense, Nobody Dies, nobody who matters anyways, except for WN, you're an angel and we're delighted you're here, "WWX fools the entire cultivation world", "and kicks up drama in front of their salad", warnings for sexual harassment due to JGS, and for the canonical behavior of the jin clan, ie war crimes forced labor human trafficking etc., hello naughty jin cultivators it's revenge time :) ) Wei Ying being the best daughter in law to Lan Qiren one lol

NOT FOUND! Propagate Understanding by draechaeli (E, 175k, WangXian, Not Everyone Dies, Pregnancy Kink, Consensual Non-Consent, Light Bondage, Adoption, Adoption but WWX birthed them all, MXY Lives, MXY has an arc, Original Children Characters, Babies for Everyone, Crossdressing, Temporary Character Death, easy to skip nsfw chapters, Implied/Referenced Rape/Non-con, Canon Divergence)

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5. Hi! I am new here but I wanted ask about ff in ao3 where Lan sizhui and Lan Wangji searches for "Xian-gege" via television show its modern au @yuukikonnos-world

FOUND! Yesterday Once More by Sweetlittlevampire (T, 22k, WangXian, Modern, Reality Show, Long Lost Family AU, Adoption, Family Reunions, Reunions, Lost Love, Getting Back Together, Family Feels, Found Family, Angst with a Happy Ending, [Podfic] Yesterday Once More by shash_reads (sunkitten_shash))

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6. Hi! I'm looking for a fic that has a passage from LWJ's POV that goes something like "Do you love him? Yes. Did you have a choice? No. Would you have liked to? Yes. Would you have chosen differently? No." Unfortunately I can't remember anything at all about the story but that passage stuck with me and I'd like to read it again. Thanks for your help! @somehowbirds

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7. Hello to you all, and happy Holidays! I am looking for the fanfic (I think it was time travel) where Lan Zhan gets Madam Yu to give away Wei Ying for a single copper coin (I think). Then she finds out shes been played and gets angry. She attacks LZ, they fight but LZ wins. In this fic I believe thats how he gets his title (Hanguang-Jun). Then he leaves with WY. It's a well-known fic but for the life of me I can no longer find it! Please help! @dreammaiden21

FOUND! If Wishes Were Donkeys by NightOwl1 (M, 117k, WIP, WangXian, SVSSS, Time Travel Fix-It, Case Fic, Mpreg, Fluff and Humor, Dysfunctional Jiāng Family, Bad Parent YZY, WangXian Get a Happy Ending, Period-Typical Homophobia, Crossdressing, LWJ and WWX Have a Breeding Kink, It’s All The System’s Fault, Post-Canon, Cloud Recesses Study Arc, Warning: JGS, Good Uncle LQR, LWJ and WWX Are LSZ’s Parents, Inappropriate Humor, Family Feels)

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8. Hi! This is fir fic finder. I dont remember much but it was in sunshot campign. WQ and MY work together i think. WQ search for the member of wen sect who wants to rebel to make an alliance. I think MY helped her but im not sure about this. WQ is in charge for healing a prisoner i think and using her skill in accupunture to make the prisoner appears dead and smuggle them out of nighless city. Im not sure if it was a different fic, but NMJ is outnumbered/ambushed by the wen and MY help him and hide in a cottage. MY dont know which side he wants to take but in the end he burn the cottage as NMJ flee. Thats all i can remember. Thanks! @idontknowwhattowriteforusername

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9. Hello I'm looking for a tumblr fic that was reposted on ao3. It's a modern au wangxian where the Jiang do not treat wwx well and the Lans are rich. Wwx accompanies jc to balls the lan organised just to make sure jc doesn't act out of line. They all eat together with lwj and the jiang start to shit on wwx only for lwj to say he's married? To wwx. Thank you very much in advance 💙

FOUND? The family I chose by Mialovesbl (Not rated, 12k, WangXian, LXC & WWX, WWX & WN & WQ, LQR & WWX, WWX &OFC, Modern, Jiang Family Bashing, JC Bashing, Bad Parents JFM & YZY, BAMF WWX, Everyone Loves WWX, Homophobic Language, BAMF WN, Married WangXian, CEO WWX, Child Abuse, Past Child Abuse, Good Uncle LQR)

FOUND? Confetti (on your lies) by imakirae (Not rated, 15k, WangXian, Mpreg, Pregnant WWX, Protective LWJ, Relationship Reveal, Modern, Toxic Jiangs, Implied/Referenced Child Abuse YZY Bashing, JC Bashing, Soft LQR, Confident WWX) They are not perfect matches but sound similar enough to the prompt that if they are not then I hope the asker will still enjoy them

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10. Hi, I'm looking for a fic where wwx started dating lwj on a bet from jc. The bet got revealed and lwj's feelings were severely hurt so wwx got kicked out by yzy. He ends up on the streets for awhile and ends up with the Wens at Yiling Cafe. Eventually lwj, who is now a musician, ends up coming across yiling cafe and Wwx on tour. They fall in love again and wwx was able to reconnect with jyl and jc through lwj. @foyoum

FOUND? 💖 love wakes me by dea_liberty (E, 46k, WangXian, Happy Ending, Angst, Childhood Sweethearts, Misunderstandings, Famous LWJ, Coffee Shop Owner WWX, Finding each other again, Found Families, lots and lots of feelings, so many feelings, Stupid Grand Romantic Gestures)

FOUND? 🔒 i swim in hollow lakes carved from memories (in neocities) by spookykingdomstarlight (T, 154k, WangXian, XiYao, Modern AU, Coffee Shops & Cafés, Music, Baking, Social Media, Misunderstandings, Consequences of Fake Dating Schemes, Flashbacks, Vlogger WWX, Professional Musician LWJ, Angst with a Happy Ending, Mistakes, Pining, Matchmaking, Romance, Illnesses, Slow Burn, Background SangNing, POV Multiple, Second Chances)

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11. Hello, I’m looking for a fic where the Jiang get involved in war with Jin against Wei Ying’s advice. He’s not close with the Jiang. He even puts a stop to a battle with Lan Zhan to save a village from a landslide. Eventually, he surrenders to Lan Zhan and is taken prisoner but is treated well because he was kind during the battles. @ruchiruchi123

FOUND? 🔒 Crossing Paths by Ilona22 (M, 21k, wangxian, shapeshifter au, graphic depictions of violence, war between sects, war crimes, not JC friendly, happy ending)

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12. Hello! I remembered a fic I read a couple years ago that takes place as a canin divergence during the Yi City arc, where Xue Yang succeeds in kidnapping Wei Wuxian and forces him to try and bring back Xiao Xingchen like he threatened. I can't remember much else about the fic, but I would love to reread it. Thank you so much! @peanutbutter-nutella

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13. Hi again and thank you so much for the last fic! I have another one. Its post burial grounds and wwx participates in the war but is changed and I remember there was this scene when he broke into a pile of skeletons after a disagreement(?) between himself, jc, jy and lw. They were horrified and wangji broke down crying gathering the skeletons in his arms. At the end they went to the burial grounds to free wwx @raven-hale

FOUND? Grief Kindly Stopped by ShanaStoryteller (Not Rated, 5k, WangXian, Canon Divergence, Identity Porn, Angst with a Happy Ending, POV LWJ, AU after WWX gets dropped in the Burial Mounds, Light Horror, Fix-It) it's not an exact match but fairly similar to the description.

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14. Hiiii I’m so sorry I’ve asked this but unsure if I got a response and for some reason I’ve missed my email and I can’t find the thread. This fanfic was one where wwx is a like a demon or higher up and is very familiar with LZ. LZ needs find a match. He’s an omega I think. There’s a scene where he just suddenly appears and LZ caters to him like gives him tea and then there’s a scene where WWZ gets all handsy with him and says if you wanna marry marry me or something. This is all I remember @ruyilantern

FOUND? Sanctuary by lunarvelle (E, 153k, WangXian, WIP, A/B/O, Bottom LWJ, Alpha WWX, Omega LWJ, YLLZ WWX, Demon WWX, Intersex LWJ, Rape/Non-con Elements, Dubious Consent, Feminization, Pack Dynamics, Genderfluid Character, Genderqueer Character, Breastfeeding, Male Lactation, Lactation Kink)

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15. Hello here is a fic that has rolled in my head … I read it but typical I cannot find it and my history got deleted 🥲 the story goes like this;

wei ying has baby a-yuan sleeping inside a file cabinet when lan zhan comes in and finds the baby asleep questions WY then takes the baby and gets pampered by LQ and LXC and buy him expensive baby clothes brand name loui b or Chanel or another high end brand by the time WY caught up to them LQ or LXC went to the store to get baby furniture … or so

Thank you @bkpmystinen

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16. If possible, there are two fics I would like to find.

A) Modern au Jiang Cheng meets canonverse Wei Ying and I think the ploy is Jiang Cheng trying to get him home?

B) Wei Ying dies during the core transfer and Jiang Cheng has to take him all the way to Qinghe so they cab give him a proper burial. @couldntgiveastraightanswer

16B)

FOUND? Impossible Remains by Jengabears (M, 128k, WangXIan, WIP, Major Character Death, Heavy Angst, Tragedy, Golden Core Transfer, Canon Divergence, Misunderstandings, Tragic Romance, Revenge, Betrayal, Guilt, Survivor Guilt, Childhood Memories, Grief/Mourning, Oaths & Vows, Gore, Insecurity, References to Depression, Implied/Referenced Suicide, Feelings, Self-Sacrifice, Ultimate Sacrifice, Guilty Conscience, Loss, Regret, Assumptions, Wrong Target, Sunshot Campaign, Major Original Character(s), No Demonic Cultivation, Sad, Action, sect politics, WWX has a good reputation, Yi City Arc Fix-It, Not Everyone Dies, Some Humor, BAMF NHS, War, Strategy & Tactics, Butterfly Effect, Fix-It of Sorts, Hurt/Comfort, Eventual Happy Ending, New sects, new powers, BAMF WN, Posthumous YZY bashing, Implied/Referenced Rape/Non-con, Non-Graphic Rape/Non-Con, Battle, Canon-Typical Violence, Fire)

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17. Hi! This is for fic finder. I only remember a few last chapter but it was an unfinished fic. In this fic i think WWX and LWJ is married. Lanling Jin attacks Gusu Lan under JGY. At first, he make a plan to draw WWX attention. At first, JGY think his plan success. But he found out in cloud recessess there are Nies cultivator waiting there. He found out someone outsmart him (it was NHS). I think he run away using a tunnel? I dont remember but they are in tunnel. LXC confront him there with some character that i dont remember. And then with JGY command there are explosion. He managed to run away a bit i think. WWX is in the tunnel but not with LXC. I think many cultivator either ally or foe is terrified of him. Thats all i can remember. Thanks! @idontknowwhattowriteforusername

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18. Help me find this fanfic where Lan Zhan and Wei Ying (cn Bucky and Mulan) entered military acad. There was time where Lan Zhan stepped on a land mine and Wei Ying ignored Lan Zhan when the latter said to abandon him already. Before or after that, Lan Zhan was shot by Su She or was it Jin Zixun. Something unfortunate happened after that and Lan Zhan couldn't do anything to help Wei Ying. Lan Zhan become a president I guess but it was a long time before he met Wei Ying again. As far as remember, the title was "your name on my chest" by anonymous for Lan Zhan marked his chest with Wei Ying's nameplate (the one they got on military) Thank you in advance. @lu-wanji

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19. Another ficfinder request if you please

I don’t have a lot of details about this fic so I don’t really know how to search for it, but it was a wx mpreg story and what I remember most of all was wwx repeatedly asking for a chubby baby, and I think after it’s born lwj is like you got a chubby baby just like you wanted

FOUND! Post-war baby! by like_a_bird_that_flew (E, 24k, WangXian, JC & WWX & JYL, Canon Divergence, Fix-It, WangXian get together in the Zuanwu cave, this affects the plot, Mpreg, Secret Relationship, Relationship Reveal, Domestic Fluff, Good Uncle LQR, A-Yuan is Wangxian's son, Tooth-Rotting Fluff, Humor, Crack Treated Seriously, brief mention of the Lan parent's dubious marriage, Weddings, Wedding Night, Eventual Smut, Established Relationship, petnames, Non-Graphic Depiction of Childbirth, Happy Ending, Pregnant WWX, Unplanned Pregnancy)

NOT FOUND! I think chapter 5 of Baby, You Ain’t Seen Nothing Yet by TriviasFolly (E, 177k, WangXian, Modern AU, A/B/O Dynamics, Alpha LWJ, Omega WWX, Omega LSZ, Mafia, Crime, Sects are Clans, Feral WWX, Feral Omegas, Nurse WWX, Dark LWJ, Dark WWX, Possessive LWJ, feminine WWX, wwx’s cannon desire to be a sugar baby/trophy wife, Breeding Kink, Mpreg)

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20. Hii! I'm looking for a wangxian fic I think its A/B/O I don't remember much other than it had a part where husiang got with one of the wen sons to upset his father but then they actually liked eachother? Thank you :D

FOUND? Train Rides Change Everything by Seriana (E, 508k, WangXian, SangXu, ChengJue, ChenLi, Modern AU, Non-Traditional A/B/O Dynamics, Mpreg, Abusive Jiang Family, Alpha LWJ, Omega WWX, Implied/Referenced Abuse, Slut Shaming, Fluff and Angst, Unplanned Pregnancy, Abusive YZY, Bad Parents JFM and YZY, Beta JC, Omega JYL, Implied/Referenced Rape/Non-con, Beta NHS, WC Being an Asshole, Non-Consensual Drug Use, Misunderstandings, Mating Bites, Mating Cycles/In Heat, Scenting, Scent Marking, Slow Burn, Forced Marriage, First Time, Forced Bitching - Omegaverse, Alpha WX, Minor Character Death, Murder, Implied/Referenced Suicide, Kidnapping, drug overdose, Sexual Tension, Omega JC)

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Hey momo!

Ok I have some more bat lore / comic questions that may or may not have relevancy to future chapters or future fics. In no particular order:

What offensive capabilities does the Robin motorcycle have (and does it have a specific name)?

How does Tim meet Kon and the other core four?

How does Tim’s whole training with lady shiva thing go down?

Do we ever see what Dick was up to on the off world mission he was on when Jason died?

I included links to where you can read or glance over the comics I'm referencing for free if you want to, btw! Feel free to ask me anything if you have more questions, I love this stuff lol.

What offensive capabilities does the Robin motorcycle have (and does it have a specific name)?

The Robin Motorcycle (it doesn't really have a special name, though it's occasionally called the Robincycle) is essentially a Robin-themed Batcycle, so it has all the capabilities of the Batcycles. These days all of the Batfamily members have one painted and styled to match their vigilante persona. They're designed first and foremost for high-speed chases and the pursuit of criminals so they're extremely fast and agile with jet boosts to jump over obstacles, additional grapple lines to grab onto any vehicles they might be pursuing, trackers to tag a vehicle and follow them, communication equipment and computer (Dick once left a Batcycle at Babs' place and it annoyed the heck out of her broadcasting a message for her to call Dick Grayson), can produce smoke clouds to conceal itself, has autopilot, can stop itself if riderless, and usually has some backup equipment to replace what they use in the field. It handles just as well off-road as it does on-road. I'm kinda surprised Tim never gave it a special name since he called his Robin car Redbird and even had a tricked-out skateboard with jet-boosts called the Redboard.

I don't know of any comics-specific offensive abilities beyond that, though the games and movies have certainly taken the idea and run with it. Usually if they need a vehicle with more firepower they'd use one of the cars or planes. Knowing the Bats though, if you want to add things to their cycles like spike strips to take out tires or rocket propelled nets or whatever it wouldn't be out of character. Comics writers tend to add whatever gadget is needed for that issue to their vehicles or belts anyway.

How does Tim meet Kon and the other core four?

Tim first meets Kon in Superboy/Robin: World's Finest Three. Metallo (super dangerous Superman rogue, a huge robot with a human brain and a kryptonite heart) decides Gotham is a safer target to focus on than Metropolis so he attacks while Batman and the Justice League aren't available. Tim knows he can't take it on alone so Alfred suggests he call Superboy, instead, since at least Tim would have an Super helping him. Kon is living in Hawaii at the time (being taken advantage of by a conman and groomed by adult women ugh), when he finally gets the message Robin sent and rushes to Gotham to stop him. Eventually Superboy takes out Metallo and then Robin returns the favor by saving Kon from Poison Ivy when he was an idiot and kissed her. Kon was hot-headed, stubborn, and way too focused on his looks and girls. Tim was obsessively serious, focused, and no-nonsense so the two fought like cats and dogs at first lol.

He met Bart in Robin + Impulse when he was on a mission to recover some stolen military computer at a ski resort. He went with some friends and Alfred under the cover of it just being a trip with his friends and Bart was already there on a class trip. At one point Robin was pinned down and about to be killed by gunfire so Bart zooms into costume and back in time to save him. Tim immediately recognizes him as being Bart by how big his feet and floofy his hair are lol. They track the bad guy down to an old military base where he hacks into NORAD and orders a nuclear strike on Russia. Tim saw the password for the computer was a combination of 3 numbers, 2 letters, and 2 numbers but not which ones. They only had a few minutes but Bart was able to superspeed through trying all trillion combinations and land on the right one.

Tim, Bart, and Kon teamed up for the first time in JLA: World Without Grownups when all the adults in the world are wished away and they have to team up and figure out what's going on and how to save the grown ups. The boys worked really well together and decide to camp out in Mt. Justice, the old abandoned headquarters for the JLA and Bart comes up with the name Young Just Us as their team name since this was the only place they could just be themselves without all the disapproval or expectations of their Justice League mentors.

Tim, Bart, and Kon all met Cassie in Young Justice #4 when she, Arrowette, and Secret all joined the group. Cassie had a huge crush on Superboy back then and when Secret (A girl Tim, Bart, and Kon had previously saved from government experimentation and lied to the Justice League to protect in Young Justice: The Secret) asked for her help getting to Robin, Superboy, and Impulse she jumped at the chance to meet him. Once there, though, Secret revealed that the group that had imprisoned and experimented on her had a bunch of other kids, too. She'd found where they were keeping them and asked for their help freeing them. Cassie agreed to help and Young Justice: The Secret Files #1 is them going on that first mission together.

Afterward, well she was new to being the 2nd Wondergirl after the legend that is Donna Troy passed the name down to her and feeling like she didn't measure up. Being with a bunch of teens who ALSO felt crushed by the pressures of being a teen hero in the shadow of their predecessors gave her a place to belong. And she still had that embarrassing baby crush on Kon lol.

How does Tim’s whole training with lady shiva thing go down?

Comic: Robin (1991)

It was just after his mom died and his dad was in a coma. He felt like he wasn't good enough to really be the partner Batman needed. Bruce set it up that he would study with one of the martial art masters he'd studied with, a man named Rahul Lama. He wanted Tim to learn empty-handed combat, meditation, and healing. Tim only got to spend a few weeks there before he ended up saving the life of an man name Clyde who was about to be beaten to death by a gang called the Ghost Dragons. The gang was run by a man called King Snake who's known as the most dangerous man alive. Lady Shiva is one of the most deadly fighters on the planet but she's constantly searching for someone good enough to fight and kill her. She was hoping King Snake would be the man good enough to do it and was investigating him to try and set up a 1 on 1 battle when she spotted Robin saving Clyde. He was rough and needed a lot of work, but she could see he had immense potential and recognized him as being Batman's newest partner. She used to be a part of the League of Assassins and is one of Batman's original teachers (though he never could beat her) and she decides to take Tim under her wing in hopes that THIS student could be the one that surpasses her.

They find out that King Snake has a manufactured plague and is out for their blood for interfering. Tim, Clyde, and Shiva go on the run together while trying to track King Snake down together. Shiva offers to train him and Tim knows he needs to be way better if he's going to take on King Snake or his gang so he accepts. She has Tim choose a weapon to learn and because the Bo staff was the least lethal option, that's what he chose. The first time he beats her he does it by being clever. He cut a hole in the top of his bo so it whistled when he swung it and it distracted her just enough to give him the advantage. During this time he also learns to fight without relying on his eyes. King Snake is blind and likes to face his opponents in completely blacked out rooms where they'll be off-kilter and he's in his element.

When they finally face King Snake, Clyd runs off to confront him alone and is dead by the time Tim gets there. Tim beats King Snake in the pitch-dark room using his whistling staff as a distraction. King Snake is dangling off the edge of a 50-story building and Shiva demands Tim kill him. Since Tim is her student, her weapon, his kill is still hers and it will be the next step in his training. Tim refuses but doesn't interfere when Shiva kills him herself. Tim finds out from an undercover officer about a shipment King Snake sent to Gotham and he's there to intercept it. He then takes up his place at Batman's side

The entire time all this happened Batman, Dick, and Alfred had no idea Tim was in danger. They all thought he was still safe in Paris with Rahul Lama lol. In true Tim fashion he only gives a report after the fact. Shiva shows back up occasionally still calling Tim her "little bird" to test him and make sure he's still living up to being one of her greatest students and always hoping this time she can convince him to fight hard enough to kill her. He beats her every time using his brain rather than pure martial skill and always refuses to play by her rules but he does respect her a lot. At times during his training she was almost motherly, calling him 'little bird', brushing his hair out of his eyes, and almost gently trying to get him to not be "naive" about the world. She's weirdly more motherly with Tim than she is with Cass, her own blood daughter.

Do we ever see what Dick was up to on the off world mission he was on when Jason died?

Not in the Batman comics, but yeah. Just before Jason found out that the woman who raised him, Catherine, wasn't his birth mother his friend and teammate Donna Troy (The original Wonder Girl and one of the OG Titans) was going through the New Teen Titans: Who is Donna Troy? storyline (I can't for the life of me remember which issues this all started in but it was during the New Teen Titans run.). Donna was an orphan who had no idea of her own past but during events with the Titans she found out some information that she could find out who she was and where she was from on a planet called New Chronus. Since she and Dick considering each other to be siblings in all but blood and he's a damn good detective she asked him to help her investigate her origins. Jason called and left messages for Dick, hoping to ask for advice before Dick left, but he'd already left Earth and didn't return until a couple months after Jason died. He had been close enough that Bruce COULD have contacted him and told him what happened and he'd have rushed back to attend the funeral, at least. But Bruce was so caught up in his own pain that he never even contacted him. Dick found out his brother was dead and he'd missed the funeral by months second hand when he landed.

It's kind of a horrible irony that Dick and Bruce were doing the same damn thing (helping a loved one investigate their origins) on opposite sides of the galaxy. The difference is that Dick always put the people he loved before duty so he was there for Donna when everything went wrong. Bruce left Jason with his birth mother Sheila to go be Batman for a bit and it got Jason killed.

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