#I’m looking at you Tim minear

[coderooster]

Putting it out there now that tomorrows ep isn’t allowed to be sad because I have been battling a blocked nose for the past six days and crying will reverse any progress I’ve made so yeah. For my physical well-being (as well as my emotional wellbeing) Bobby can’t die, Christopher can’t leave with his grandparents, hen and Karen can’t lose Mara, Eddie can’t be having a breakdown and any other curveballs are not allowed to be thrown.

[1doesnotsimplyhavejust1fandam]

So about the season 4 finale shenanigans, where rg and the cast had no idea it was coming, so the rest of the cast was texting rg like “ARE YOU LEAVING THE SHOW???” and he was going “NO, IDK WHAT’S GOING ON EITHER!!!” and him texting Tim asking if he was being fired. And then we got Tim saying that Eddie was too pretty to die. I just told my homophobic mother all of this. Her response? She asked me if Tim was gay😭😭

[buckleyseddie]

i need a parallel scene in the future where buck comes home (they’re together now and eddie’s hime is HIS home holy shit. buck can't believe it sometimes) and eddie is in the kitchen and when he sees buck he flips over the tablet to hide whatever he was looking at much like he did in 8x08 and buck feels dread spread through him thinking about last time and how his world crumbled when eddie told him he was moving to texas but he puts on a silly grin and again says “what are you looking at, eddie?” but his tone isn’t quite as lighthearted as he wants it to be because he’s running every single bad scenario in his head while also being like “please let it be porn. please god let eddie be looking at porn. i don’t care what kind of weird shit he’s into just. please please please” and eddie tries to wrestle the tablet from him and it does nothing to calm buck down because it must be bad. oh god it’s bad. and then buck finally flips it and sees- an engagement ring webpage? except that can’t be right because they’ve only been dating for like six months but then he thinks about the box that has been sitting in his sock drawer for THREE months and. it makes perfect sense actually. and he can feel eddie watching him- his hand over his mouth his other hand on his hip. stressed, worried. and buck starts LAUGHING because why is he worried? why was buck worried? this is eddie. this is the love of buck’s life. this is buck’s future husband for fuck’s sake. so he tears his eyes from the tablet. the ring. HIS ring. and says “yes, eddie” and eddie BEAMS at him and they kiss in the kitchen of THEIR home. and then they move to the couch and start looking for the wedding venue with the nearest available date. okay? tim minear i’m begging.

[tevanbuckley]

the life cycle of this buddie getting shut down in s4 theory is exactly what I meant when I said the fandom is queerbaiting itself.

people take a snippet of bts info that they have almost no context for -> extrapolate wildly -> the theory spreads, more stuff gets tacked on -> it spreads even further, now minus any context -> it gets ingrained into the fanon lore and treated as a fact -> ppl get their hopes up, then feel cheated if/when nothing comes of it.

in less than a day we’ve gone from oliver saying bi buck was pitched to him at some point in the last couple of years but got squashed by someone above him, to people saying that the shooting/will was definitely originally an explicit love confession.

To be clear we’ve no idea what that version of buck’s coming out would’ve looked liked. Hell, depending on how early it got scrapped, the writers might not know much beyond buck = bi.

and I’m not saying it’s not plausible (to a degree at least) but some of you are acting like oliver leaked a deleted buddie confession scene in 4k. When all he did was make a pretty vague reference to a storyline that never was.

It’s fine to speculate just please stop presenting it as if tim minear is in your dms.

[wannabanauthor]

Because I have no faith in Tim Minear or the writers, if they plan on bringing Tommy back and having him get back together with Buck, this is probably how’s it’s going to go:

At the end of the new episode, Buck gets a knock at his door. He opens it, revealing Tommy, not sure what his expression would be.

“Can we talk?” He’ll ask.

Buck will smile and say, “Of course.” He lets Tommy in, and he closes the door behind him. But the camera is outside the loft, so we just see Tommy go inside and the door closes in our faces with Buck smiling.

Next episode, Buck shows up to work no longer looking depressed and heartbroken. It takes a couple hours for the FireFam to realize that he hasn’t mentioned Tommy at all today.

Maybe during meal time, one of them notices a red splotch on his neck. They ask about it, and he says, “I, uh, accidentally burned myself with a curling iron.”

Chimney will smirk and say, “Good for you! Finally moving on from Tommy!”

Buck’s eyes slightly widen but he tries to play it off. “Yeah, totally.”

But Eddie knows his friend better than that. Eddie frowns and gives Buck a suspicious look.

So Eddie goes to freezer and opens it. Yep, just as he suspected.

“Hey, Buck, what’s this dessert called again?” He asks.

Buck responds without even thinking, “Spumoni. I had some leftover.”

“Interesting, I could have sworn that was Tommy’s favorite dessert, but maybe I’m wrong.”

The station goes silent.

Hen looks at Buck. “Please tell me you didn’t-”

“I ordered some hoping it would help me get over him,” Buck says. It’s a really bad lie, but he’s scrambling mentally.

Before anyone could respond, the alarm goes off, so everyone runs to get their gear on. Eddie hangs back for a minute.

“I’m glad you two worked it out,” Eddie says and gives Buck a genuine smile and pats him on the shoulder.

Buck smiles back and does that little happy sigh he does whenever he thinks about Tommy. Then he jogs off to get ready to respond to the call.

[mazzystar24]

A helpful diagram for Tim minear and abc:

Also you guys didn’t ask but what scenes would be in my dream buddie begins episode other than the cut scenes? (But would be impossible considering these guys change their hair and buff up between seasons so much they wouldn’t look anything like the season they’re meant to be from) :

1. Anything from the missing time between the ladder truck and buck recovering- I wanna see it so bad you don’t understand, buddie aside even, I just mourn it

2. First time buck went to Eddie’s house cos by the time we got the “it’s Eddie’s house I’m not really a guest” we hadn’t seen him really there

3. Again all the missing Buckley Diaz family scenes cos by the time we got to “his buck today” we hadn’t seen that that much

4. The conversation (cussing them out) Eddie had with the Buckley parents

5. Also where did buck go after he stormed out of that dinner because I’ve always suspected he went to Eddie’s

6. Any scenes from when Eddie got shot/ and after he woke up

7. More from Eddie’s breakdown era and buck helping him

8. EDDIES POV OF BUCK IN THE COMA- BRO COULDNT GO IN THE ROOM UNTIL CHRIS WAS THERE HE HAD TO TELL CHRIS THAT BUCK MAY NOT MAKE IT AND WE NEVER SAW THAT AND THATS A HATE CRIME AGAINST ME PERSONALLY

More but I gotta shut up now

[saras-almanac]

So I wrote this post the other day about my feelings on the handling of the BuckTommy breakup (which you can read here if you want). And @parrishjeanna reblogged with a link to an article from Tim. I wrote out a reply to it but it became so long I needed to put it in a separate post because it’s over 3k and I need to put it until a readmore.

Okay so I did read that article thank you @kawaiifacesong for linking the not generating revenue clicks because I don’t like reading any articles for 9-1-1 because it’s literally all buddies who can’t ask anything about the show. (Case in point, in this particular interview, the interviewer brings up “The Couch Theory” because Buck and Eddie sit on a couch.)

So this interview was trash for many reasons but I’ll narrow it down to three for the sake of this response: Biphobic nature of the breakup and aftermath, what’s being said in interviews isn’t what we’re seeing, and Tim writes as he goes so there’s no actual plan going forward.

First: The Biphobic Nature of this breakup is still moving full swing.

The idea that Buck is “still figuring himself out” and needs to explore is insulting in so many ways—especially to myself as a bisexual lady in my 30s. Firstly, being in my 30s, the idea that you need to figure yourself out still is absolute bullshit. Yes, you can still find new things out about yourself and make some changes, but usually by this point in your life, you have a pretty decent handle on who you are as a person. Which Buck does have… and we’ve seen that? So it has to be a reference to his newly discovered and realized sexuality.

Which, AGAIN is so biphobic and plays into incredibly harmful bisexual stereotypes that bisexuals need to “explore” to figure out what or who they want. This means either they need to fuck around and make sure they’re really bisexual. OR they need to get enough experience with their same gender to then be able to have a same-gendered relationship. Both of which are insulting and harmful. This idea that Tommy couldn’t possibly be a lasting relationship because Buck just came out as bisexual is wrong. It’s fine if they didn’t want Tommy to be a long-term love interest or even an end-game love interest, but why couldn’t they have done it differently, to hopefully not play into these harmful stereotypes that are still incredibly prevalent today.

Now do I think they fully intended it to play out as biphobic as it is? Not really, but I do think that the heart of what they wanted—Buck exploring his sexuality—is inherently biphobic because of the way they have chosen to go about it. There’s a world of difference between having Tommy break up with Buck so Buck can go exploring and having OS and TM saying similar things in interviews and Tommy and Buck breaking up and Buck getting back out there and dating around. Which if they had given it just a smidge of thought, I have to hope they would have come to that same conclusion and maybe gone about it in a different way.

Second: What Tim’s saying in interviews about what’s happening on the show and in these storylines doesn’t match up to what we’re seeing

I’m going to paste the few paragraphs related to BuckTommy break up here, just to read. I have bolded what I thought was important and what I’m going to talk about after it.

“Look, I think the breakup was premature, but that was by design. For me, the story that I was trying to tell was here’s a guy, Tommy. He’s not a main character on the show. We haven’t done ‘Tommy Begins’ or something. But you do see him in the ‘Begins’ episodes, in flashbacks, and by the time he leaves in ‘Bobby Begins Again,’ he’s turned over a new leaf. He’s feeling more comfortable. He’s hanging out with the new people at the 118 once Bobby takes over, and they throw him a party and bake him a cake when he goes off to his new post. There was even a reference in Broken when Chimney calls him to do the water drop,” Minear explained. “But Tommy’s a guy who’s in a different place in his life than Buck is. And I think what Tommy realizes is exactly what he said, which is, ‘I’m not your last. I’m your first.'” Minear referenced the coffee shop scene in Season 7, where Buck asked Tommy to give them another shot and come to his sister’s wedding, as a point when Tommy thought, “Alright, this guy’s kind of great. He’s super hot and he’s sweet. And this will be nice. And I’m going to be vulnerable for this.” As the relationship grew stronger and the stakes grew higher, however, Tommy reevaluated things. “I think Tommy, in the end, understood that this was not forever — that Buck is exploring himself. He’s still figuring himself out. And even if Tommy doesn’t know it, he might sense the fact that Buck likes to jump in with both feet a little bit precipitously,” Minear mused. “So was the breakup premature? Yes. Because Tommy was put in a position where he had to be honest. And once he speaks the truth, which is, ‘I think I know where this ends, and I can’t move in with you,’ he’s kind of breaking the spell — the spell of that honeymoon. Tommy even says, ‘I didn’t see this coming either.’ I don’t think either one of them did.”

Okay, lots of things happening in this quote but ultimately there’s a massive disconnect in what TM thinks is happening or what he’s saying is happening and what is actually on screen—and that’s a huge problem. You can’t rely on interviews to explain things, it needs to be in the actual text of the episode.

I think the real crux of the issue is this: “Tommy’s a guy who’s in a different place in his life than Buck is… Tommy, in the end, understood that this was not forever… he’s kind of breaking the spell—the spell of that honeymoon.”

Let’s break this down a bit. Tommy being in a different place in his life than Buck… How? Buck has, since the pilot episode, been looking and searching for a stable romantic relationship—he’s always craved that and wanted that. Even in the breakup, he was thinking about their future and marriage and moving in with Tommy. Is that not what the next logical step of a relationship might be? So doesn’t that—regardless of whether it was premature or not—prove that Buck and Tommy are in the same place of clearly wanting a long-term, committed relationship? So if this wasn’t the case, why didn’t you show that? Show them having that disconnect or make it clear that Tommy’s dropping hints about their future and Buck is not in the same place so he’s not picking up on them at all. Because what we saw was Buck wanting and seeing a future with Tommy and Tommy basically telling him that the doesn’t actually.  

“Tommy, in the end, understood that this was not forever — that Buck is exploring himself. He’s still figuring himself out.” This is my villain origin point—for real. Because this is also not what we saw! What we saw, was a Buck who was so secure in himself and his relationship, arguably for the first time on this show, that he didn’t panic or second-guess anything really. He was all-in with Tommy and enjoying himself and being with Tommy. He even said that being with Tommy makes him more comfortable with himself—aka what a lot of couples say when they’re in committed and reciprocal, healthy romantic relationships—that being with you makes me happy being me. (Paraphrasing here, but hopefully my point gets across.)

Because what is there for Buck to figure out yet? He knows he’s bisexual and incredibly into Tommy. He’s happy and content with his work life and seems pretty happy with where he’s living. His relationships with his friends and family are all as good as they usually are. So what is there for Buck to still figure out? I’m left to assume that this is again only about his sexuality, which just keeps adding more to the pile of shit that makes me feel crappy and uncomfortable with this storyline.

Also, why couldn’t Buck and Tommy last? Why is that assumed to be the correct conclusion to come to? How many high school sweethearts get together and last? How many people who don’t date until they’re in their 20s-30s find someone right away and stay together? How many people come out as queer later in life because they have found someone they click with and it just makes them see more of themselves and they stay together? Sure, this is not the case with every single person in these situations, but it’s not unheard of. To me, this just feels like the show and Tim are acting like Buck is a young, 20-year-old child and now a grown man in his 30s…

What we actually saw on our screens, was two people who genuinely seemed to enjoy each other and spending time together. That had an easy and sweet relationship, where they both felt settled and comfortable together. It’s why the weird change in 806 felt so abrupt—what do you mean these two people who had amazing communication up until that point, have not talked about their past relationships at all? I think that was done as a shortcut for the writers and TM to say, “Look, see, they’re not compatible, they can’t last because they’re not talking about anything serious.” But again, my point is: then you should have showed us that beforehand, given some foreshadow or lead up to it. Instead, they chose to blindside the audience for the “shock value” and it didn’t work. Shock value for shock value’s sake never works for the audience. They don’t want the rug to be pulled out from under them, they want to see you building something and only after it’s built can they see what you were doing the whole time.

Now, I understand that they just wanted to break them up for “story” reasons (which I have no faith is going to be anything good). While I personally hate that because I feel like there would have been much more storylines and things for Buck to be involved in and it would have opened up a lot more potential stories for the future, I get that it’s not my decision to make. But why couldn’t they actually make this make sense in the actual context of what we’d seen already? If you wanted to break them up because they’re in different places, then having Buck ask Tommy to move in could have caused more of an argument of Tommy saying that Buck doesn’t really see him and doesn’t seem to understand that Tommy has a whole life outside of Buck. O Tommy could have been the one to propose moving in together and Buck freaks out because it’s too soon—which leaves Tommy to come to the conclusion that they want different things right now and he can’t just sit around and hoping Buck will catch up because it would be too hard for him to let go of Buck later. Or have Tommy literally going to a different place—whether temporarily or permanently—and so they have to break up because Buck has a whole life here and Tommy wasn’t about to ask Buck to uproot himself for Tommy…

There’s so many other ways this breakup could have gone instead of the route they went—and they would have made much more sense contextually. Instead, they went this cheapest way possible and have Buck now acting like a child about calling Tommy, when in reality and with the growth we’d seen of Buck in the past 8 years, he would have reached out to Tommy already. At least to talk things through. The baking thing was cute for an episode and it would have been okay for longer, but I’m just sitting here wondering exactly why Buck can’t call Tommy… If it’s because he’s hurt, then they needed to say that because right now, it just seems like Buck is literally being forced to not call him but the audience isn’t really sure why.

All this brings me to my biggest point. Third: I don’t trust anything that’s being said in interviews or by TM because he doesn’t write in advance and that’s a major problem

Before we get into it let me make a disclaimer: I’m gonna need every single network and studio to start requiring all the white men who write for them to actually be getting them scripts. We cannot rely on their “genius” to make sense because these scripts—especially season 8—should have had a few more passes before what we’ve seen. The only episode so far that actually felt like a complete episode was the Halloween episode.

And if this season has taught us anything, it’s that Tim not having any real plans or anything written is actually a massive problem for this show.

Now me not believing TM is not me saying that I 100% believe Tommy is coming back (though I feel like the chances are higher now with the reaction from the GA for ABC to suggest some things or at least give a closure beat to this character and relationship) This is more, nothing that TM has said in interviews up until this point for season 8 has really actually happened on screen except for Eddie shaving his moustache… Granted, I don’t read every single article with him so I might have missed something, but I just feel like he’s got no interest in setting anything up and actually paying it off in any real way.

So many people were so excited for season 8 because it was the first season in years where we actually knew so many storylines going into 8—that weren’t told to us in interviews; they were introduced in the actual show! We had Bobby/Athena’s house hunting, HenRen fighting Ortiz and trying to get Mara back, Madney fostering Mara in HenRen’s place, Eddie dealing with Christopher leaving, and Gerrard back at the 118. Any one of those storylines would have been so amazing to really see explored and fleshed out. Instead, everything was basically settled and done by episode 4—apart from Christopher and Eddie resolution and Bobby/Athena actually moving in / building. To me, as a writer myself, that decision to rush though those other stories was a massive massive misstep. There was so much there to explore and delve into that could have been so satisfying to watch and really reap the emotional payoff.

Instead, we had like 2-4 minutes max of processing HenRen not being able to see Mara again before they were all reunited. Not that I wanted to see HenRen struggling again in this way, but it would have been different and they could have put some humor into it with Karen suggesting they tail Ortiz and try to find things out about her—or Hen comes back from a shift to find Karen has stayed up for 38 hours tracking every single facebook post from Ortiz and her family to try and find something they could use and she’s the one who uncovered the link between Ortiz and Gerrard, which then promts Hen to ask Buck as Gerrard’s specialist boy to ask for a favor or try to convince Gerrard to help them deal with Ortiz.

And Maddie and Chimney having Mara would have been so interesting to see them actually having conversations about what they want for their family going forward—do they want more kids, do they not? Are they wanting to try naturally or adoption? And then Mara being with Chimeny could have also added another layer of tension between Hen and Chimney with Hen being jealous that Chimney is raising her daughter.

I mean Eddie… the fact that it took 8 episodes (basically) for him to actually acknowledge that he needs to do something to be a part of his son’s life is a major problem as well. It makes me not want to root for Eddie to reconcile with Chris because he has shown hardly any initiative in actually confronting what he did and the actual reason why Chris is so upset and feels betrayed. There was a little in 6, but that’s sort of it.

Bobby and Athena, they just don’t seem to know what to do with them anymore. And that’s a shame because there are so many things they could do—namely my favorite thing which is give them more comedy to do! They are so funny together (cruise ship is one of my favorite things). Or they could have had the first few episodes be them sort of couch surfing through the firefam and be a fun little runner of “we really need to figure out what we’re doing.” Even their storyline of their house burning just doesn’t seem to be a thing anymore.

Buck, it would have been so amazing to see him dealing with the work stuff more and having Tommy to lean on, to see Buck who’s been pretty secure in his work for the past few seasons now dealing with Bobby being gone and Gerrard there, just really gets him thinking about the future. Or even the comment about budget cuts, why was that never brought up again? That would have been so interesting to lead up to the midseason finale, which of the 118 is going to get laid off? And Buck being in such a secure spot maybe he volunteers because he wants to explore something outside of firefighting and/or because everyone else has kids and a family and he knows it’s easier for him to not have a job? And then he’s saying his goodbyes and the midseason act out is Bobby announcing that Eddie is going to be leaving them instead.

Instead of really exploring any of that, it’s all been rushed through to move on to the next thing, but the honest truth is: I don’t trust what TM’s great next thing is because he absolutely squandered all the potential he had going into season 8. So all these “amazing things” he has going forward I just don’t trust they’re going to happen or even be slightly interesting. Instead, I assume they’re going to be something that’s like an episode opening and then never mentioned again if they do happen.

I just don’t understand what is going on in his head other than ego right now and I’m just… I deal with too many egos in my life to deal with another one like this.

[911lsbts]

Rob, you recently wrapped production on the fifth — and potentially final — season of “9-1-1: Lone Star,” which will kick off with a three-episode train derailment. What else can we expect from the new season?

Rob: We all went into it pretty much knowing that it was going to be the last season, so that affected everything we did. We wanted to really show everybody what is still possible in network television if people have the appetite to do it. It feels like it’s probably the end of an era of a certain type — well, it doesn’t feel like it. It is the end of an era of a certain type of show we once had an opportunity to make, and I think they’re great. We wanted to go out making our case for the value of shows like that, and I think we did a really good job. The stories that we were able to tell on a weekly basis in terms of the scope and scale — that’s probably the thing I’m the most proud of. They were truly like mini-movies every week.

One of the most common critiques of “Lone Star,” since its premiere in 2020, has been the way that the show has consistently underused minority characters in order to center your character, Owen. Rob, you’re an executive producer in addition to the star. John Owen, you were a writer for the first three seasons. How would you both respond to that criticism? Was that ever a concern when you were writing or producing the show?

John Owen: [Deadpans] I can tell you confidently, it was never a concern of Rob’s.

But no, I think, look, everyone’s always going to have a take on what it must be like internally, creatively, and usually, it’s not 100% percent accurate. And in this case, it’s not accurate at all. I was there when we were blue-skying Season 1 — and I want to preface this by saying I was starting out as a very green, new writer and learned from some of the best. It was such a fun experience for me. Owen was always the central piece of the show. He was one of the mediums through which we got to tell stories about the other characters and built them out into such lovable characters that people got frustrated, maybe, when they didn’t have as much screen time.

I remember my first episode that I wrote, being so excited to tell the first story that really featured Mateo [played by Julian Works]. He and Marjan [Natacha Karam] have this beautiful storyline where she’s helping him study, and I think that was one of the first times we learned Julian was a throwdown actor. And then we were like, “Great, let’s write to him.” So I know, at least from the room’s perspective, we were learning strengths and then started leaning into them. I think in any case where a show has a strong ensemble, people always are going to be frustrated with maybe not seeing as much of their favorite characters as they’d like — and I think that’s a good thing. You always want to leave people wanting more.

Rob: I think when [creators] Ryan [Murphy], [Brad] Falchuk and Tim Minear came to me, they were very clear about what they wanted to accomplish with the show. They imagined a show centered around the only survivor of a terrible tragedy in 9/11 and him rebuilding a firehouse, but also rebuilding his family. And in terms of playing time, I think that they did a really good job.

I don’t think there is another show on television with as diverse a cast as we had, telling the kind of diverse stories that we did. Owen was there as a way to tell those kinds of stories and I’m really proud of how we were able to do it.

[buddiebeginz]

For fans like Buck who are also still processing his breakup with Tommy or feel their connection was unexpectedly cut short, Minear agrees, but stresses that the move was intentional. “Look, I think the breakup was premature, but that was by design. For me, the story that I was trying to tell was here’s a guy, Tommy. He’s not a main character on the show. We haven’t done ‘Tommy Begins’ or something. But you do see him in the ‘Begins’ episodes, in flashbacks, and by the time he leaves in ‘Bobby Begins Again,’ he’s turned over a new leaf. He’s feeling more comfortable. He’s hanging out with the new people at the 118 once Bobby takes over, and they throw him a party and bake him a cake when he goes off to his new post. There was even a reference in Broken when Chimney calls him to do the water drop,” Minear explained. “But Tommy’s a guy who’s in a different place in his life than Buck is. And I think what Tommy realizes is exactly what he said, which is, ‘I’m not your last. I’m your first.'” Minear referenced the coffee shop scene in Season 7, where Buck asked Tommy to give them another shot and come to his sister’s wedding, as a point when Tommy thought, “Alright, this guy’s kind of great. He’s super hot and he’s sweet. And this will be nice. And I’m going to be vulnerable for this.” As the relationship grew stronger and the stakes grew higher, however, Tommy reevaluated things. “I think Tommy, in the end, understood that this was not forever — that Buck is exploring himself. He’s still figuring himself out. And even if Tommy doesn’t know it, he might sense the fact that Buck likes to jump in with both feet a little bit precipitously,” Minear mused. “So was the breakup premature? Yes. Because Tommy was put in a position where he had to be honest. And once he speaks the truth, which is, ‘I think I know where this ends, and I can’t move in with you,’ he’s kind of breaking the spell — the spell of that honeymoon. Tommy even says, ‘I didn’t see this coming either.’ I don’t think either one of them did.”

— Tim Minear, Decider

In other words

He ain't coming back.

[papidiaz]

Part 8 : Interviews and articles focused on Buck/Oliver, Eddie/Ryan and Tim Minear

24/11/14 9-1-1 Showrunner Tim Minear Talks Athena’s Rookie, Bobby’s Hotshots Return, Buck’s Heartache & Teases Midseason Finale

24/11/14 9-1-1 Boss Addresses Concerns About Athena’s Future on the Force, Offers Intriguing Tease About Fall Finale

24/11/14 ‘9-1-1’: Callum Blue on the ‘Real’ Brad, What He Sees in Bobby & Upcoming Scene With Eddie

24/11/21 9-1-1 star Oliver Stark on Buck’s beautiful bisexual arc and what’s next for ‘Buddie’

24/11/21 Goodbye Happy Eddie? 9‑1‑1 preview shows 'significant' call with son Christopher (exclusive)

24/11/21 ‘9-1-1’ Boss Tim Minear Unpacks The Midseason Finale And Shares His Season 8 Goal: “To Blow It All The Hell Apart”

24/11/21 Is Eddie Leaving 9-1-1? Showrunner Addresses Season 8's Fall Finale Cliffhanger

24/11/21 When 9-1-1 Season 8 Returns, Buck's Story Is "More Centered Around Eddie," Teases Showrunner

24/11/21 Is Eddie leaving 9-1-1? Buck will spiral 'like a top' and 'chaos' is coming, showrunner teases

24/11/21 Is [Spoiler] Leaving ‘9-1-1’? Tim Minear Reveals What’s Next for Eddie, Buck & More

24/11/21 ‘9-1-1’ Creator Says Eddie Is ‘Serious as a Heart Attack’ About Moving After Episode 8

But should fans really be worried about Eddie’s future on the show?

“I’m not sure exactly how to answer that question without spoiling too much, but let’s just say that [Eddie’s] feeling that maybe he’s got to leave everything behind in order to reconnect with his kid is very real,” Minear told TheWrap.

24/11/21 9-1-1 EP Breaks Down Fall Finale Surprises: Is [Spoiler] Really Leaving the 118?

TVLINE | Buck was quick to volunteer to help him find a place, but he’s got to be devastated. Take us into his head.

"Oh, I think there are fire alarms going off in his head right now. You can see it in Oliver’s performance, too. As soon as Eddie turns his back, Buck looks like he’s been hit in the head with a baseball bat, and that will figure in mightily when we come back."

The next one is just an article that I liked.

24/11/22 Why ‘9-1-1’ Fans Think a Buck and Eddie Romance Might Actually Happen in Season 8 

This interview with Lou was interesting... and I wasn't sure about sharing it in this post, but I thought someone would like to read it for future reference or out of curiosity. And he does talk about Buck's and Tommy's relationship after all, so… 🤷🏽‍♀️

24/11/21 9-1-1’s Lou Ferrigno Jr Dives Deep On That Breakup Scene Between Buck and Tommy

Part 7 ⬅️

[buddieisgoingcanon25]

I feel like Tim Minear has the opportunity to do the smartest thing EVER. If he’s not already doing it.

Buck and Eddie being with the wrong people. They both seem to have in common that they are with ‘copies’. Buck is currently with someone that has canonically been confirmed to be like Eddie in terms of interests

“you and T both have a lot in common. Both in the Army, both like Muay Thai, both like watching half naked men pummel each other”

but also outfits ‘henleys’ whereas Eddie is with his wifes doppleganger but if we look at what she’s suppose to represent its a partner, co-parent and family, which is what he has with Buck but he’s looking for it in her. We already have a few Shannon x Buck Parallels:

“I needed you to have my back…I had you’re back…no you were in afghanistan” and “you can have my back any day…or you could have mine”

“Whatever it takes for you to forgive me….I forgive you but I’m not sure I can trust you”

“I forgive you…there is no one else I trust more with my son then you”

Eddie gets mad at Shannon for leaving Christopher, Eddie gets mad at Buck for leaving Chris during lawsuit era

Both Shannon and Buck have/had legal rights to Chris

They were/are both Eddie’s best friends

But we also have the doubts and confusions regarding the partners:

B:“My attention?… I GUESS so”

E:“She was the love of your life…I THINK she was”

B:“I DON’T KNOW what I’m ready for”

E:“So what do you want?…I DON’T KNOW”

I think it’s very telling when you put all this together with the fact that ‘The wedding singer’ was referenced at the Bachelor Party - Which is about two protagonists married to the wrong people

I need TM to figure it out sooner rather than later. If he knows what’s good for the show.

🙏

[gaytommykinard]

If Tim Minear pulls a “Season 2 TK & Carlos” with Buck & Tommy, I might cry (metaphorically). Like… if we catch up with Buck talking to someone with the 118 and learn he broke things off because he felt Tommy was being “too careful” with him, still not sure he was read and still afraid he was pressuring him, I will dramatically flop myself face first onto my bed with a very heavy sigh.

I so hope 🙏 that their “greatest love stories… start with a second chance” moment was the coffee shop date, because Buck asking Tommy to the wedding after 1/2 a date was definitely a rom-com level of grand gesture.

They’re gonna have their ups and downs as a couple. And I’m looking forward to that in season 8. But I am *so* not looking forward to the way the online fandom will act with every up and down. 😭

didn't those guys get gay married? i hope tim pulls that with buck and tommy 🥰

it's generally best to ignore the parts of online fandom you dont vibe with. which is hard to do sometimes.. i am guilty of having no impulse control and making a salty little post every once in a while.. as a treat.. but yeah. if im happy with what canon is doing, im just gonna stay in that little bubble 🥰 i want all the storylines for buck and tommy. except jealousy and cheating. cheap fucking drama. no thanks. i want GOOD storylines. @ tim are you listening???

[lavoixhumaine]

Tim Minear, I got a fucking bone to pick with you.

How the fuck did Nick and Nora, made during the infamous Hays Code era by the way, make out more times than Bobby and Athena? Like I’m not counting (I am and it is zero) but how is that exactly possible?

The film’s characters, supposedly married, weren’t even allowed for sleep in one bed because of those ridiculous rules and yet they seemed to convey more affection and sexual tension.

Meanwhile, you have no such restrictions with these actors today. We’re not even asking them to have movie magic sex, sir. We were just hoping for some actual fun sleuthing adventures with our favorite chaotic couple.

—because that was the expectation you set when you said they were going to be like The Thin Man.

(This should have been a red flag honestly because—in my opinion—apart from “The Thrilling Adventure Hour’s Beyond Belief” with Frank and Sadie Doyle, there has never been a truly good adaptation or inspired piece of The Thin Man which actually has led me to think it’s some kind of curse on its own, like a mini-Macbeth)

How do you reference The Thin Man regarding the episode you wrote? Like sir, Nick and Nora were a rich, chaotic, drunk honeymooning, sleuthing couple with a funny little dog who just happened to solve crimes for funsies because the wise-cracking wife and her cute little nose would not let her husband stay out of trouble.

They made sleuthing look fun and marriage seem sexy which was already a revolutionary idea in the silver screens of the 1930s…like that is the complete opposite of what you wrote in “Abandon ‘Ships”, Mr. Minear. Did you even watch the movies or did someone just say, ‘hey, you know those black and white movies…?’

I don’t mind what you did in the episode. I mind that you uttered complete bullshit about it saying it’s like The Thin Man movies because, no, hell no. Not even close. I really don’t get how you pulled that comment from your ass, sir. Respectfully.

So did you lie or did you just choose to reference the film series because this is another jab at the Oscars? Because as it happens, they also presented the actress who played Nora, Myrna Loy (sidenote: everyone knew she should have won for the 1946 film “The Best Years of Our Lives”) an Honorary Oscar.

So what I’m actually saying is, you kinda suck for lying through your stupid teeth, Tim Minear. So like go kick rocks or something. And maybe don’t ever speak of The Thin Man again if you’re just gonna lie about it.

[wannabanauthor]

I know I said I wouldn’t give anymore energy to BuckTommy, but I’m grieving.

I had a chance to see a woman who looked like me become President, and she fucking lost to a convicted felon.

I’m not just hurt, I’m devastated and heartbroken. It was just a reminder that black women could be 5x better than their opponent and still lose. It reminded me that I will never be good enough. Something I already struggle with.

I was so ready and looking forward to watching the new 911 episode for a crumb of happiness, and instead I got emotionally bitch slapped by the spoilers.

Why, Tim Minear, why? Was it funny to you? Did you get a good laugh at breaking up a happy queer people for no reason? What was it? You were too lazy to continue their storyline? Or were you obsessed with pulling a “gotcha” on the audience?

Please tell me why you thought biphobia was the best thing to write about the same week queer people desperately needed a happy escape?

I want to know the reason. Why? Why did you hurt us like this?

My entire life I have struggled with seeing good representation for all the marginalized communities I’m part of.

I’m angry, sad, depressed, and so many other things. At least I can understand that Kamala Harris lost due to misogynoir, but the reason for breaking up BuckTommy evades me.

What was the reason? Cheap drama trick? Do you seriously lack creativity that badly? You couldn’t have at least chosen a better reason for the breakup or sprinkled crumbs in so that it would make sense?

You chose to rehash something they already discussed prior to starting a relationship.

So why did you go that route? Do you get off on torturing the audience or something?

WHAT WAS THE FUCKING REASON YOU FUCKING MISERABLE STUPID ASS BASTARD?!

TELL ME WHY HURTING QUEER PEOPLE WAS SO IMPORTANT TO YOU?!!

Why? So many things in life hurt, and you decided to add to it.

I don’t even know why this keeps happening to shows I become invested in. I can never happy an OTP with a happy ending. Why? Because real life doesn’t have happy endings for people like me.

All I can do now is move on and try to focus on other things. BuckTommy changed the way I viewed crafting fictional relationships, and you fucked it up over some cheap thrills.

[mazzystar24]

I totally get I just finished my exam week (I had to do a math test at 8am Sat😭). Wish you luck tho!

Also do you have any good buddies fics? Destiel too?

Math test at 8am is BRUTAL

Thank you I will definitely need it😭😭

Unfortunately I only have buddie fics to offer😔:

(Warning I do like a fair amount of angst)

Right where you left me - by hyacinthusbloom ( @thebloomingheather on here) - when I say I might be as big a fan of this fic as I am of the show I MEAN IT, you do not even understand how much I love this fic or how obsessed I am with it, I have reread it so many times despite it still being in progress that I think I may genuinely qualify it as addictive, me and @estheticpotaeto legit wait for updates like a dog at the author’s door istg, like everything about this fic is flawless and written with so much love and emotion and the way the writer captures the effects of trauma is just amazing because it’s so rare to find this level of diving into ptsd and the more uncomfortable aspects of it that are more taboo or less understandable to people, like I can yap for an hour about this fic but I’ll just say READ IT

Any fic by daisies_and_briars ( @cal-daisies-and-briars on here) but one of my favourites of his is Both blade and branch and muscle memory and four can keep a secret and appetency and the two she’s writing right now (change the prophecy and steal my sunshine) -wow at that point I should’ve left it as any fic because that’s a lot of favourites😭😭

Any fic by @loserdiaz plus with them you get enough lighthearted fics to even out the angst

Ooo I’m not sure what their username on here is but lizzybizzyzz is also another writer who I just love their fics

Fractals by hobbitprincess - one of those fics that make you squeak at how much love these fictional characters have for each other

Beneath my mother tongue by archerincombat - the angst the writing the way they hit every single emotional beat? Amazing

Anything by this_is_moony_lovegood

Leave the light on (I’ll be coming home) by HMSLusitania - the presumed dead Eddie fic of your dreams, a constant reread for me it’s just 👌

Anchored by adorkable_buddie - sorry Chris you gotta be injured sometimes just for us to get our buddie dreams hope you understand and we appreciate your sacrifice 😔🫶

empty, broken, lonely, hoping by daniweb - when I tell you I love the presumed dead trope you best believe I’m telling the truth because the ANGST?? Yes please, LISTEN it’s the closest you can get to the emotional beats of killing off a character without ever killing them off because you love them and happy endings too much so TIM MINEAR TAKE NOTES I KNOW YOU SAID YOU LOVE THEM TOO MUCH TO KILL THEM, anyways back to to the point this fic again is just flawless execution by the writer like absolutely love it

every time we stop talking (the universe starts screaming) by withmeornotatall - emotional destruction and I absolutely love it, divorce era 2.0 and it HITS

Home is where it hurts- by rileyblue2001 - can you tell I hate the Buckley parents because I HATE the Buckley parents

The one with the return of the sex addiction by buddiefication (pumpkincreamcoldbrew) - I’ve reccomended so much angst so have a funny little light hearted buddie fic with the father bobby vibes we all love❤️❤️

Okay back to the angst tho 😭😭- out of ashes by Ashavahishta - AHHHHHHH THIS FIC JUST AHHHHH STOP THE WAY I WOULD DIE FOR A FOLLOW UP FIC TO THIS AHHHH I LOVE IT SM AND ITS LEGIT A ONE SHOT I CRIED SO HARD

Falling Slowly; Sing Your Melody (I’ll Sing It Loud) by Princessfbi ( @princessfbi on here who I also love sm of their fics so highly suggest just going on their page and looking through all the fics) - absolutely love it, legit gave me brain rot and got me obsessed for a GOOD while

I'm comin' back, don't let me go by wikiangela ( @wikiangela on here also love love their fics again so check them out but this one is probably my favourite of theirs)

Okay this is looking more and more like a uni reading list so I’m gonna shut up now but I hope you enjoy these fics and that a few of them emotionally damage you like they did me because I love to spread the joy (see: pain and suffering) 🫶🫶

[moonylouwho]

Painful revelations ahead:

I’m currently rewatching 2x17 “Careful What You Wish For” and I’m to the scene where Shannon and Eddie are at dinner.

Shannon is telling Eddie about the letter she wrote for Christopher, explaining how she didn’t want him to think she left because she didn’t love him. She tells Eddie that she never wants to have to send that letter. He’s confused on why she’d ever have to, so she says, “Because if I try to do this again before I’m ready, there won’t be a second chance.”

She died in that same episode. She didn’t even get the chance to have a second chance.

In season 7, Christopher reads the letter.

Now having seen 7x07 “Ghost Of A Second Chance” I feel even worse about her death. She was ready to try. She was ready to be in Christopher’s life, even if that meant not being Eddie’s wife.

And now we have Eddie pursuing a relationship with a woman who looks just like her. In an episode titled “Ghost Of A Second Chance.”

Tim Minear… when I catch you…