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Do you believe in the "curse of hatred" that Tobirama won't shut up about? Are Uchihas really dangerous like that?
I've never really gone into Tobirama's head because I don't personally like him as a character/person, but I did do some research for this ask.
So, he dislikes Uchiha. He lived in the Warring Era with Uchiha clan being their worst enemies and their biggest rivals. Of course that would influence his views on the clan and its people, because as soon as he sees Sasuke with Orochimaru, his instant reaction is to lump him with the man, without knowing anything about him.
However, at the same time, he also associates Uchiha clan with love.
As someone who had battled against them, saw how they fought and their strengths and weaknesses, he has a fair idea of the psychology of the Uchiha. What he's describing has a living and shining example in none other than Madara himself.
He seems to begrudge and admire the Uchiha. He's prejudiced against them and it's only natural because of their shared history. So, when he's calling out the Uchiha, it has a good reason. If the Uchiha were asked about the Senju, they would most likely have the similar opinion. Not all, because, yes, they accepted Tobirama's leadership over Madara's, but still. And if you notice, Tobirama specifically mentions people who shared Madara's will. He had a positive view on Kagami Uchiha.
Anyway, like I said before, he understood the Uchiha pretty well and it's not right to say that his judgement was "wrong" because what he's describing is actually a very human response, and that much love can lead to that much hatred too. It's just the extreme of the emotions and he's objectively not wrong about it. He's wrong to associate those qualities only with the Uchiha, though.
Sharingan reflects one's deepest despair and pain and we know extreme trauma awakens one's Sharingan and Mangekyo Sharingan. And the more an Uchiha suffers, the more powerful their eyes become. Sasuke is a prime example of it. Kakashi, who isn't even an Uchiha, when he felt pain and regret of the insurmountable level, he also awakened his Mangekyo. Was he an Uchiha? No. He was a human who had suffered extremely in a moment and reacted to how Tobirama describes an Uchiha would. Yes, Kakashi doesn't go out of his way to cause destruction like Obito does, but that's simply because of the outside influence of the people around them.
Kakashi was surrounded by people who loved him and Obito was lonely and manipulated into thinking he could change some things. In short, Obito's vulnerability and loneliness were taken advantage of, while Kakashi found people who cared about him.
Furthermore, people in the fandom defend and justify the Uchiha hating Senju, because of everything, but then turn a blind eye to whatever Uchiha did to Senju as well.
This, baby Itama was surrounded by a bunch of grown Uchiha men.
And killed.
Senju are evil and cruel for killing Izuna and anyone who loves that clan is depraved according to the fandom activists, but hey, how dare Tobirama hold grudges against the Uchiha for doing this to his brother.
The endless cycle of hate and violence that the main story repeatedly talks about stems from this. Truthfully, both the Uchiha and the Senju were at fault for perpetuating it. For what happened to the Uchiha clan, only Senju were not responsible, but also Madara.
Senju and Uchiha were both prejudiced against each other and they both institutionalised it. Madara through raw power when he continued to attack Konoha after becoming rogue, and Tobirama did it through the political power he held. Neither of them were innocent. But as is said, victors write history, and the narrative glorifies the idealogy shared by Naruto, Uchiha's love is antagonised and Senju are shown as good guys.
The Shinobi system itself is ruthless. It doesn't see humans as humans. I wouldn't call Tobirama a perpetrator of it, because he's the product of two system too, but he fails in his judgment, and is quite wrong about what he thinks about the Uchiha.
We see intense and violent reactions in many other characters in wake of losing the people they and the heartbreak that follows. How many of them were Uchiha? Konoan? Gaara? Nagato? None.
Tobirama doesn't see Uchiha in the positive light and it is understandable. He wants people who are loyal to Konoha. I believe we know more about Hashirama and his ideology regarding the village than we know about Tobirama. For Hashirama, the lives of people were important and that's why he wanted to establish the village. But what did Tobirama want? Did he care about the land? Did he care about the people? He seems completely okay with the fact that Uchiha clan was exterminated.
And contrary to the popular belief in the pro Uchiha camp that claims he "praised" Itachi for massacring his clan, the man doesn't see Itachi any differently, despite hearing the whole story from his own student and successor. What was he really so fixated on the village for if he cannot love its people?
Tobirama describes the intense and powerful reactions in an Uchiha that has them cursed. He says "cursed clan" rather than the "cruse of hate", because I can't find the exact words where he says that (I'd add those if someone can provide me with page/panels).
He has bad experiences, but his problem is that despite being in the position of the power and being responsible for everyone, he refused to grow up. He refuses to sympathise with a child whose family was murdered at the orders of his successor. He refuses to sympathise with a child who was forced to kill his parents and then died at his brother's hands.
He sees his own pain greater than the others (Sasuke's, Itachi's, Madara's) and justifies his prejudices based on them.
#i hope this did make some sense?#sorry for replying so so so late because i'm not in a shape to do much work these days#seasonal depression sucks#anyway...#anti tobirama#itachi#itachi uchiha#sasuke#ask#anon#i hope i haven't missed out on anything here
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Uchihas are Jew-coded
Preface: I'm Jewish. As with all marginalized minorities, outsiders are welcome to listen, ask questions etc. but not talk over or goysplain us. This applies especially to challenging our indigeneity. Which is not in "Gobacktoeurope"...
Obito
I first started headcanoning this after seeing Obito's Kamui dimension. His panic room looks a lot like the Holocaust memorial in Berlin.
He also said this to Rin:
Talmud (Sanhedrin 37a): “Whoever saves a single life is considered by scripture to have saved the whole world.'
Tikkun Olam: if I ruled the world...
Jews have a collective imperative of Tikkun Olam, aka fixing the world. Obito's and Madara's drive to do so means little on the face since many anime villains have this goal, but given the previous things mentioned, this looks like part of a pattern. Itachi and Sasuke, too, wanted to shoulder the weight of the world to make it a better place. Even if it meant the whole world hating you - like the whole world has hated and still hates Jews.
Let's delve deeper into that hatred, shall we? The anti-Semitic conspiracy theory that we secretly run the world is directly tied to our imperative to fix it. You can't fix anything without power and influence. In fact, the whole notion of Tikkun Olam being our job, may strike Gentiles as conceited and inspire hatred. Obito and Madara needed to "run the world" in order to "fix it" and were happy to accept that this meant being hated.
This "Jews control the world" conspiracy theory connects seamlessly to Konoha's suspicion of the clan conspiring to take over and using the Sharingan, a trait unique to the Uchiha, to control tailed beasts in order to execute such a take-over. Kotoamatsukami is the ultimate parallel to Jews secretly controlling the media, and with them, public opinion (but not in our favour?).
Just like the Sharingan, Jews have, or are accused of having, singular qualities that facilitate our rise to power. This is because Judaism is a closed (ethno)religion and opting in (converting), having interfaith families etc. is discouraged. In some ultra-Orthodox communities, this is taken quite far... Let's just say that Uchiha wives, too, take their husband's last name, but Mikoto Uchiha looks like Sasuke looks like Izuna... go figure.
Of course, in the case of Jews, this quality is not so much a gate-kept genetic trait, as a gravitation towards intellectual and influential professions passed down through generations. This is a direct result of anti-Semitic policy though: often being excluded from handicraft etc, Jews shifted the focus to administrative, financial and legal sectors. Jews are also traditionally studious, so our apparent domination of the Noble Prize is a result of this.
But no matter the cause of our success in certain areas, it would obviously have Gentiles eyeing us with suspicion. Why is a single ethnoreligious minority so prominently represented in positions of influence and acclaim? What might we be plotting? Why shouldn't we be plotting, since we ARE - allegedly - conniving, manipulative and greedy? Better get rid of us. Remember: Nazis hated Jews and were scared of arts and literature. Being Jewish and being an intellectual are, if you ask anti-Semites, shortcuts to power. You know who else hates books and Jews? Every single terrorist organization, be it Taliban, Hamas, ISIS,... Anti-intellectuals are often anti-Semites. Education is power. Jews love education. Terrorist regimes hate smart subjects. Ignorance is cheaper than bullets, after all.
Ghetto Uprising/Beware the Beginnings
The clan suspected the compound was just the beginning. Although the discrimination the Uchiha actually suffered - a compound, which all the other clans got, too, and surveillance - was not comparable to the Warsaw Ghetto or any other real world segregation, Fugaku and other clan members expected it to take a turn for the worse if ignored. And in order to prevent another Holocaust, you must recognize and fight the beginnings.
These beginnings are upon us once more. Anti-Semitism has been skyrocketing, and blaming Israel, a single, far-away country, is dishonest, considering:
Palestinians have massacred Jews decades before there even was a state of Israel; what Nakba was their excuse in 1922? What Nakba was there in Iran?
Jews are entitled to Israeli citizenship, all moving expenses paid, so why do many live in Diaspora? Could it be that they do not wish to be involved with the state of Israel? So why take it out on them, unless one already hated Jews?
The most recent rise in anti-Semitism didn't follow Israel's bombardment of Gaza, but the DAY of Hamas' mass rapes, mutilations, torture, and murder of 1000+ Jews on October 7. People who don't usually praise children, including those of "colonizers", getting slaughtered and mutilated, suddenly praised exactly that. These people have always been anti-Semitic and found an excuse to be loud about it by weaponizing Palestinian suffering, which they only care about because Jews are the culprit. Proof: Houthis are starving Muslim children in Yemen, China oppresses Uyghur Muslims, Assad gassed Muslims, America bombed Muslims for 20 years, but - crickets. Think about it.
Likewise, the Narutoverse counterpart of the Nazis or Hamas, Tobirama and his acolytes, have found many a lazy excuse, most notably the Kyuubi attack. They suspected an Uchiha, and little did they know they were right, except, just like Netanyahu and the people under his command, a single deranged Obito did not represent a critical mass of Uchihas. And yet, the clan, just as world Jewry, faced collective punishment. The Narutoverse Nazis were frothing at the mouth for an excuse for decades, and notable Uchiha individuals kept delivering, not least because their own incompetence, just like Netanyahu's, allowed things to get that far to begin with.
Isobu
Doesn't Isobu look a lot like shellfish? And isn't he why Rin killed herself? Rin was Obito's everything and she died because of this monster. Not that it was Isobu's fault, but still.
Jews aren't allowed to eat shellfish. Obito has every reason to hate shellfish for the mere memory that stuff evokes. I know it's a bit of a reach, but again, patterns.
Dress Codes
For a proud, prominent clan with a bit of a superiority complex for their gate-kept characteristics, the Uchiha sure dress very modestly, the women even more so. In fact, they might just be the least flashy of all Konoha communities. The muted colours and baggy cuts scream "modesty". If you've ever wandered an Orthodox Jewish neighbourhood, you'll see the women tend to wear long, plain skirts, long, tight sleeves, ultra-conservative shoes, and plain, long or covered hair.
Mikoto fits right in, but so do other Uchiha women. Izumi is a bit "daring" with her sleeveless look, but her overall style still fits. Nobody in that clan seems to have much vanity, while the general population of Konoha and the Narutoverse at large, is a lot more individualistic.
"This guy just slaughtered the whole police force, let's throw a kunai at him and see what happens" bless her little heart
Flag Infestation
Uchihas have no chill when it comes to plastering their logo everywhere in their compound. They were driven out of the general public and are doubling down on pride as a result. Same applies to Jews in the safety of our indigenous homeland (the Jewish Temple of Solomon in Jerusalem predates Islam, born in modern Saudi Arabia, by many centuries, so don't Gobacktoeurope me).
Oh, and a Nazi found an excuse to ghetto them up, assigned some of them authority to keep their own in check (Sonderkommando/"Konoha" military police), then got rid of them all and managed to sell it as a necessary evil.
#uchiha clan#uchiha#uchiha obito#uchiha itachi#itachi uchiha#obito uchiha#izumi uchiha#mikoto uchiha#sasuke uchiha#judaism#jewish people#jewish history#leftist antisemitism
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Hey! Can u make a scenario if the uchihas found out there gf was cheating on them?
I'm only going to do two Uchihas + Indra because it became quite long, I included both points of view, shinobi world and a modern-day au.
Buuut, if you wish to get this for Obito, Shisui or Itachi, lemme know🤠🙌🏻
Also, this is like the reverse version of the piece i did years ago, nostalgic to say the least
Indra
- Torture, sluggish and painful, in the Shinobi world, Indra would slowly kill her. First, he would expose her in front of the entire Uchiha clan and basically throw her to the wolves, tied up and naked for anyone to do what they want with her. She will receive no food or water, and will slowly die under the weather conditions, malnutrition, and dehydration, all the while suffering whatever people think it prudent to do to her.
- In a modern universe, considering that I picture Indra as a wealthy man with a lot of power and influence, he would make her life a living hell. If for some reason (Y/N) decides to cheat on him, he will quietly destroy her whole world, getting her fired from her job, have her family turn away from her, leave her friendless, with no career prospects, and when she comes back begging for mercy, he will laugh in her face.
Madara
- I mean... why? They had everything, nothing was needed, why would (Y/N) suddenly have to betray him like that? It's unforgivable, because whoever attacks him from behind is his worst enemy, not even Hashirama dared to hurt him like that. Madara will not choose how to punish her, he will leave it to Izuna for the little sadist to have fun with, if his younger brother decides to let her live, then he will exclude her from all his life, kicking her out of the compound without question.
- First denial, unable to believe his beautiful (Y/N) would do this to him. When he sees the evidence, there is no way he can go on living that lie. He refuses to leave her, to the point where she is the one who makes the determination to go, but Madara's obsession is too great to tolerate. He will follow her everywhere, pursue her, know her every move, and will not let her live in peace.
Izuna
- Time to decide whether to tell his older brother or not. No matter how much of an adult he is, if his Aniki finds out someone hurt him, he will take matters into his own hands without even asking, taking it upon himself to make perish whoever dared to play with his Izuna's feelings. He knows for sure if he talks to him, (Y/N) will be finished, and he doesn't consider it so serious either, there are many worse things to do to someone. He will decide to leave her without reason, abandon her once she thinks everything is fine, and move on without remorse. The Uchiha has no time for broken hearts.
- Izuna is hurt, of course he is, but mostly because his ego was damaged. It's not so much because (Y/N) is no longer interested in him, but because she cheated on him with a person who doesn't even match up to him, he can't be compared to her. If she had done it with someone stunning and totally beautiful, okay, fine, but she chose someone horrible, and he even feels sorry for her. He will block her from everywhere without saying anything, won't confirm he knows about her affair, and will let her boil in her own karma when she gets desperate about losing him.
#uchiha izuna x reader#izuna uchiha x reader#izuna x reader#uchiha madara x reader#madara uchiha x reader#madara x reader#indra otsutsuki x reader#otsutsuki indra x reader#indra x reader#naruto#naruto imagines#naruto shippuden#uchiha izuna#uchiha clan#izuna#izuna uchiha#madara uchiha#uchiha madara#madara#otsutsuki indra#indra otsutsuki#indra
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Okay I keep writing comments for gravity of tempered grace in my head and then getting distracted before I can actually post them so I'm just. going to comment here instead because it's in front of me now
First: WOW you write so fast. This isn't actually like, important, but still. I am in awe
I love Izuna's cousin. "Suffer with me" he is exactly the kind of cousin Izuna (and really all of these characters) deserves. Also can't WAIT to see if Tobirama ends up finding that copy of his paper and assuming that if Izuna has it, that must mean he understands it and Tobirama can talk theoretical physics with him. I'm sure Izuna would have the FUNNIEST things to say to his cousin for causing that.
I also enjoy the chapter titles and how they tie in to each chapter. And the explanations for each of them, because I would NOT know what most of them are on my own at all.
I also like the butterfly effect/plot in general, how Tobirama got surprised by things changing in response to his changes, and now he doesn't really know what's coming even though the extra knowledge is still really useful. Can't wait to see what happens with that Nara he saved, and whether there's more fallout from the Uchiha invading.
I don't have a lot specific to say about the Hatake scenes, but I enjoyed them a lot! All the worldbuilding is fun, and very interesting.
Tobirama's characteization is also great and I love... all of it, honestly, but in particular deciding to just get a few graduate degrees on the side while he's with the Uzumaki, and his solution to people possibly not being loyal to Hashirama (even if I would also like to shake sense, or maybe just an iota of self preservation, into him for that last one).
Also while I am not the anon that asked about inspiration originally it was that ask that reminded me that oh yeah I had stuff to say, and actually I HAD heard Non-Stop... a few months ago probably? and went "this is Tobirama and Izuna exactly." So you are not alone!
Yeah I try to maintain a personal deadline so I never hit that point of losing interest because it's happened in the past. It really helps to develop a detailed outline beforehand for the whole story. Recently I've been trying to outline chapters before I write them too to see how that works for me.
I love the vision of reticent and usually quiet Tobirama just rambling about his interests. I think it'd catch Izuna off guard a little but he'd probably find it cute once he can admit that to himself. I also headcanon the Uchiha as being attracted to competency so I'm sure that'll kick in sooner or later.
I'm glad you like the chapter titles and explanations! I thought it'd be a fun way to tie everything together especially with a scientist protagonist. It's been really fun but as the story gets longer than anticipated I'm nervous about running out of relevant topics to reference lol.
The Nara will definitely be back once his clan stops mourning the death of his father. It's great that people still remember him.
It's been such a blast to dive into the worldbuilding with this fic a little bit because Naruto has such fascinating lore that wasn't explored. My biggest struggle is making sense of just how modern the time period is because it seems like the Edo period but then 60 years later Naruto has a fridge and television so who knows really. I'm making it up as I go.
Sorry for rambling a little bit but I get really excited whenever I receive a long message and it's always a delight for me to respond. Thank you so much for the ask and for reading my story!
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Izutobi + Trans Izuna + ??? Tobirama + Arranged Marriage + No one did any communication about it
"Having second thoughts?" Tobirama meets Izuna's eyes coolly from where he kneels by the head of the futon. "You know full well that it's too late for that. And don't give me that look -- I'm about as excited by this as you seem to be."
Tobirama has stripped out of his wedding clothes since Izuna last saw him. Now he waits in a simple cotton yukata, hair damp like he’s just bathed even though it hasn’t been more than fifteen minutes.
Izuna forces himself to release his grip on the doorframe so he can step inside. He hadn't been able to win himself many concessions, but privacy after the wedding was one he fought hard for. Silencing seals flare to life across the walls and windows as the door slides shut.
He doesn't move any closer.
"I meant what I said the first time the word marriage was spoken. I won't touch you, and if you try to touch me you're going to suffer for it for the rest of your short life."
"Yes, you've made that exceedingly clear." Tobirama says dryly, "There's a reason the marriage contract only obligates us to have children instead of consummate. You understand we don't have to actually touch each other for that?"
"Children of our blood, in case you've forgotten." Because the language used was pulled straight from old Uchiha contracts. "You clearly understand that we can't manage that without sex, or else you wouldn't be sitting there."
He resists the urge to cross his arms, but Tobirama doesn't, instead folding his in a way Izuna must have seen over a hundred times in the last year.
"I only need you to provide the material. I trust you're more than capable of handling that on your own." For the first time in his entire history of dealing with Tobirama, Izuna is brought up short.
"The material."
Tobirama wears a look of distaste as he explains. "Your semen. I'm only here to offer you a sealing scroll to put it in -- but if you distrust me that badly any clean container will do. I can take care of it from there."
"I--" The emptiness in his head lasts far longer than is acceptable, but Tobirama is frustratingly patient when it's inconvenient for him. "I cannot."
"You--" Tobirama is clearly angry before he cuts himself off -- but he wouldn't be Tobirama if he couldn't recognize something as simple as a choice of words, and it's replaced with careful consideration before he finishes. "You cannot."
Then again, Izuna wouldn't be Izuna if he wasn't able to pick up on the implication right back, "…I cannot. Can I assume that since you're asking me, that you cannot either?"
"…No. I cannot." The mixture of irritation and confusion on Tobirama's face would delight him under any other circumstance, and Izuna will think back on it with great fondness later, but right now his ears are ringing with surprise so loudly he almost doesn't hear when Tobirama shakes his head and says, "This certainly complicates things."
"No, really?" Izuna says, his sarcasm almost a reflex when it comes to Tobirama. And then he realizes that, as Tobirama pushes himself to his feet, he still looks like he's thinking. "…What are you planning?"
"To do research. I'll be out of your way now."
Izuna almost, almost lets him go without a fight seeing as how he's just had a number of revelations that he'd like to think on. But if there's one thing more terrifying than Tobirama doing research, it's Tobirama doing research on how the two of them are going to have children together.
"No. I'm going with you." He decides, "If it's my kid, I want to know how it gets made."
Tobirama does not look pleased. Still, after clearing reigning back whatever his first thought was, he replies, "I suppose you're going to have to be involved in the process at some point."
Izuna shoots him a sharp smile, pushing the door right back open. The sound of distant celebration rushes back in as the seal breaks.
"Alright then Tobirama. Let's go make a baby."
#i have thoughts about how they got Into this situation but i will leave that 2 your imagination#oops! no writing tag
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Did you know that since you have eight WIPs theoretically i could request 1+Typhoon island for each day of the week? Today can be ELAU day >:)
Oh that's very even, I guess I better make sure to start new fics only exactly when I finish one now
Unless I just start seven new ones at once....
ELAU:
“Hm. We’ll need detailed descriptions of each of your experiences,” Tobirama says. He’s already thinking out loud, his eyes narrowed at some puzzle in the middle distance, so Itama just nods. “If it was shared, that increases the likelihood that they will also have woken up.” Tobirama stands. “Write down what you remember in as much detail as possible,” he says. “I will inform Anija and Kawarama that you are awake, and then see if your team has also woken up.” Which means Itama will need to write quickly, before the rest of his brothers arrive and interrupt him. Kawarama will want to train together tomorrow, and Hashirama will fuss openly. “I’m surprised Hashirama isn’t here already.”
Typhoon Island:
“Do you intend to waste time with every enemy?” Tobirama asks. “They’re bloodline thieves,” Izuna snaps. “And?” “And they deserve to suffer more than any human can, so yes, I’m going to hurt them if I get the chance,” Izuna says. “A waste of energy,” Tobirama says as Hikaku catches up. “I know my limits, so don’t tell me what I can and can’t do,” Izuna says. “They deserve to suffer.” “I do not recall that you have ever fought that way against me.” “Obviously.” “Is that because you do not believe that I should suffer before dying?” “You deserve to suffer slightly less than bloodline thieves,” Izuna says dryly. “What do you care? You’re too strong for me to do that anyway.”
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Ok, can you tell me details of tour warring state shift? I ask this becauae Ibwanrnto shift for that. How is Madara and Izuna like? And The insides and family dynamics of the Uchihas? Maybe Hashirama and Mito If you interacted with them? And any other curiosity of that time period?
[thanks for this ask!]
alright, disclaimer first: my warring states DR might not exactly be the best thing to freely talk about, especially with what's currently happening on other platforms regarding shifting.
there's a lot of things regarding this era in general that would be looked down upon—and i won't be making excuses for not scripting them out, because i wanted the full experience of shifting to naruto. i just wanted to put that out there.
so, with that out of the way, let's talk about my DR itself.
[you can also find a few more detailed explanations in a google doc i keep; some of my other shenanigans are written there].
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(1) MADARA AND IZUNA
i have to admit that, while I'm generally fine with Madara, i have some mixed thoughts on Izuna. overall, they're both not bad as family. i would go so far as to say that the elder is one of my closest friends, surpassed only by Hikaku. he's kind, and very indulgent with my whims. Madara likes to look out for everyone even when they don't want nor need it, is a bit obsessed with taking his duties seriously, and likely suffers from some form of burnout. thinking of him does make a bit sad, though. Tajima's still alive, and the man's been grilling him on finding a bride. problem is, HashiMada was a thing in my DR :'DDD and I'm currently the guinea pig having to deal with Madara's sulking fits. i am, frankly, honoured to be someone he trusted with that secret, but i am not equipped to deal with romance. as for Izuna? call me any day—i am down and ready to throw hands. I'm kidding (not really). where Madara's the prime elder brother material many people would probably want, Izuna's that babied brat of a cousin who spells trouble just because he can. he's not a bad person—i don't hate him. chances are, I'd actually team up with him for both stupid arguments and serious fights if it suited me. but it doesn't make him less of a nuisance to deal with. Izuna gets very sexist and classist from time to time, and...well, xenophobic (i don't even know if that's the right word, but you get what i mean). he's also very pushy and arrogant.
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(2) MITO AND HASHIRAMA
to be honest, i have more experience dealing with Tobirama more than either Hashirama or Mito. hell, even my interactions with Tōka are more significant compared to the couple. for the most part, my contacts with the elder brother happen only because of my (pseudo?) acquaintanceship with the younger. Tobirama and I often use the same routes when travelling between smaller villages, especially on solo missions and in neutral spaces. here's the thing: while I've met and talked with Hashirama in passing, all of those times happened only during times I've scripted, but not shifted for. these are events where we're required to interact with each other. think of: the daimyō's clan rep summons, battlefield warfare, semi-joint missions, and the like. he's very open and friendly, and almost always willing to compromise—there's no doubt about that. but I'm also very wary of him. listen, he's a nice person, but I'll just be honest and say this: i don't trust him, not the slightest bit. my opinion on Mito isn't any more different. it's not that i dislike her, but neither do i actively like her. it's a neutral feeling, i suppose. I've seen her more than I do Hashirama [ok wait short break—by every god that exists, she's actually really fucking gorgeous]—but, like Hashirama, i don't know her enough to formulate any substantial thoughts about her. just that she's associated with the senju, and her clan is allied with them, so that makes her a threat by nature. i won't lie—the time I've spent with the uchiha has influenced me by a large margin. it's not going away anytime soon. and even then, a part of me already acknowledged that both aren't people i want to fully deal with. with tobirama, it's easier, because we have this mutual regard for one another. i interact with the man from time to time, and we're at least familiar. his family is a different story.
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(3) OTHER CURIOSITIES
hmm...there's actually a lot of things I'm interested in, in my DR. i suppose by 'curiosities', you meant some kind of non-canon aspect of it? I'm trying to keep this entry short, so I'll just list two things here. I'll just add more details to the DR journal later on. well, there's this group called the Soldiers in White. i wouldn't go so far as to call them vigilantes, although they skid near that boundary. they're an organisation made of clan defectors; and, as far as I'm aware, their main objective is to promote the intermingling of the average clan members with 'common blood', and it's done in an act of science. they're a pretty radical group in my DR, so they're catching a lot of controversy. there's also the bi-annual clan rep summons, announced at the daimyō's convenience. there's no set date for it. it's basically this nationwide (and by that i mean only Fire Country) gathering for all clans, and it's done so His Royal Highness gets an update on what's been going on with his vassals. i don't attend the actual bureaucratic meetings, but there's an open festival available for three days straight. it's a fun event, and I've gone to it twice while shifting.
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that's it, so far.
most of what I've written down about my Naruto DR is actually in the journal itself, so, if you're interested, just check that out. i listed some more intricate details there; like my schedule, or how I met my cousins for the first time (aka the canon characters), mission anecdotes, clan dynamics, and the like.
also, yeah, i definitely recommend shifting for the founders! i haven't seen much others going there, just the usual konoha 12. it'd be nice to chat about it with someone :DDD
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Within this AU, I think it's unlikely that Sasuke will have a redemption arc bc Izuna would never support it. For Izuna, Sasuke doesn't have to redeem himself for anything. Konoha has always been a mistake. It's more likely that Izuna will fill Sasuke's head with all the reasons why he should never return to Konoha (that is, if the village is still standing). I doubt Naruto will be able to convince Sasuke, Izuna has a silver tongue and very valid arguments. I can imagine him saying: "Why do you have to redeem yourself? It was Konoha who oppressed us, killed our family and stole our Sharingan! They are the ones who should redeem themselves; ask for our forgiveness and make amends! See, they are not doing any of that! They are forcing you to bow down to them!" Then Team Taka leaves under the pretext of redeeming themselves but in reality they are escaping through the front door. 🤫shhh no one knows that Izuna took Madara's Rinnegan and has plans to use it.
Want to know more about this? I'll tell you! Technically the Rinnegan belongs to Izuna (he gave his eyes to Madara before he died) so he's just taking back what's his. Izuna is totally the type of person with a grudge. He gave his eyes to Madara with the promise of protecting the Clan and annihilating the Senjus. Guess what Madara actually did? (He had his reasons, okay? There were Uchihas defecting; his people were losing faith in him and he had to think about the civilians, the elderly, the orphans and the widows. Madara couldn't continue the war like this) - but Izuna isn't taking this into consideration. He's pissed about everything. So he takes his brother's Rinnegan and says he'll do what needs to be done.
After convincing Sasuke that Konoha will always be shit, Team Taka leaves and bam! Dimensional Travel! Oh the Rinnegan is truly so OP. Izuna loves it. He's so, so proud to be an Uchiha. (Uchihas are totally demigods, that's Canon!)
Then they show up somewhere back in the Warring States period. Now here's a plot point. Izuna could arrive after his counterpart dies and take his place (and use his new powers to annihilate the Senju; see aniki this is how you do it) or he could go further and kill Butsuma before he has any children (then no Hashirama or Tobirama will be born, how wonderful), or he could send Hashirama to the desert dimension and let the Senju jubokku dry up, or to the fire or ice dimension. All of these options sound great for Izuna. While Tobirama... oh well. it's got to be something really creative to make him suffer. Izuna is still thinking about how to get revenge on him. Anyway, I can think of many more, but that's it for now. Izuna is having his brain working overtime for several other possibilities – (don't forget, he's still an Edo Tensei. He'll live forever and will have plenty of time to raise the Uchiha and annihilate his enemies)
Somewhere in the background Izuna is distracting his brother so he won't miss (or pity) the Senju. Maybe Izuna supports the idea of building a village (without Senjus). Madara will surely be too busy to watch Izuna's schemes too closely. (The silly older brother does whatever his precious little brother wants.) Sasuke is surrounded by relatives who like him. It's not the same as having his first family back, but at least it helps heal his wounded heart. The grandmothers of the clan dote on him, the girls still smile and blush around him (but at least he's not being harassed so it's not so bad), he trains with other Uchihas his age, hears a lot of stories about the clan and immerses himself in the culture he was deprived of knowing and living. The rest of Team Taka is there, causing chaos and complaining about prehistoric life without technology, but they are happy to be together.
omg this was long :c
Fic where, in practicing to get edo tensei right, Orochimaru uses Izuna as a test subject and tries to substitute DNA to make it work, using Suigetsu's bc like it's extra flexible or whatever bc shape change
Edo tensei mermaid Izuna locked in a tube somewhere in Oro's lab,,
He's SO mad about it and has literally no information ab what's going on at all bc hes locked in a fucking tube !!
Bonus points if Orochimaru doesn't even specifically know who he is
They unearthed him w the rest of the founders on a whim but bc no one really requested him specifically, the body just kinda sat there and eventually got mixed in w the rest of the Uchiha corpses, till Orochimaru requests an Uchiha corpse and they shrug and send him over
He still has Madara's eyes too (left alone either by oversight / or bc they decided not to pull them before he got mixed in w the other bodies, who had by then already gotten scooped of their eyes so they assumed he'd already been harvested)
Ok but like. No one even tells him what happened/where he is/that madara made the village. Why would anyone?? The only one Izuna sees regularly is Orochimaru, and he doesn't know those facts would matter??
Izuna doesn't even know what Konoha IS, he isn't gonna recognize the name
From Izuna's perspective, he died in his bed and then BOOM. Tank time.
Orochimaru might tell him it's been some years since his death (thinking he died in the massacre) and even if Izuna doesn't believe him bc like, enemy, enemy territory, he sure as fuck probably won't be thinking "Ah yes it's been decades since my death and my brother went against my dying wishes to make that village"
Tho he might get nervous and start picking up those cues when he sees the tech
Oro mentions offhand that the Uchiha were all killed and Izuna immediatley assumes the Senju won the war and loses it
He'd figure it out eventually obviously (probably after being set free, most likley by Sasuke w Suigetsu) But he'd also probably keep that to himself, bc like, enemy territory n stuff
Mermaid shapeshifter Izuna terrorizes the shinobi world,, Sasuke doesn't know what he just unleashed.
Ok actually but like. Suigetsu's shape-shifting but bc Izuna has a fire chalra nature, make it liquid fire shape-shifting. Fuckin, fire mermaid Izuna. He has an awful time retaining his form and actually for the first chunk of time, him being in that tube is genuinley just for the best. He keeps turning into liquid fire with no real solid body and can't put himself back together for hours.
Izuna hears his brother is still alive and running Akatsuki and is so down to clown till he realizes THATS NOT HIS FUCKING BROTHER HOW DARE YOU USE HIS NAME
Anyways oh my god Izuna on team Taka,,
He and Sasuke would be SUCH a dynamic actually, they look alike so much?? Sasuke doesn't recognize him but he's clearly a close relation, so there's some mystery there. Sasuke is like super shaken by finding a member of his clan and Izuna, by that point aware that apparently the rest of his clan is dead, is sticking to him like GLUE. Sasuke is bitchy little brother coded and Izuna understands this is probably karma bc he is also bitchy little brother coded
They probably clash a lot, especially bc both are expecting to be in charge here, but ultimately I think they'd get along better than Sasuke does most people, and there's also that bonus vulnerability of like. Izuna is an older Uchiha boy who's trying to brother him (with a noticeably different brother-ing style to Itachi too) and Sasuke has been alone for so, so long.
Sasuke accidentally calls him nii-san then promptly has several break downs about it
Suigetsu and Izuna either get along ALARMINGLY well or they hate eachother. I think I wanna go with the first bc it sounds more fun. They couldn't talk to eachother in the tanks but they could still see eachother, so maybe they kind of developed some sort of code to communicate?
They are "cause problems on purpose" friends. They're also "wdym I can't kill him???" *looks of genuine confusion* buddies. They're giving Sasuke the biggest headache actually, someone stop them. If you leave them to "take care" of a problem, there will be carnage.
Also, like, Izuna literally has Suigetsu's DNA in him. That's a thing.
Mmm maybe some complex thoughts ab how Izuna has effectively become a bloodline thief against his will (the ULTIMATE taboo for shinobi from his era) and he's like, actually fucked up about it.
Running joke where they refer to each other as cousins, could be funny. They argue over who's the bastard child (it's Izuna obviously but he won't just take that title lying down)
Izuna is like, in his 20s, and Karin is around 16 or 17 at this time I think?? She definatley has a bit of a crush on him (which helps take the edge off Sasuke) but like, he's not acknowledging that beyond patting her on the head. She'll get over it eventually. (Sasuke hides behind Izuna when Karin is trying to flirt w him and Izuna absoloutley laughs at them both)
Izuna is actually really impressed w Karin's sensing abilities specifically. I think he'd be a bit on edge around her at first, bc Uzumaki -> Senju ally. But he'd quickly assume she's a deserter (he has no idea the Uzumaki are pretty much wiped out rip) and becomes cautiously chill after a minute or two (also when he first escapes, he REALLY doesn't have the luxury to pick and choose his allies. He's instantly attached to Sasuke and cautiously fond of Suigetsu, and Karin seems to have Sasuke's trust at least, so he'll keep an eye on it but otherwise trust Sasuke's judgment)
Izuna and Karin besties arc where they paint eachothers nails is a must. I love the take that Izuna is really into fashion n stuff and he and Karin should like, trade hair tips or smthn. Karin knows modern soap brands where as Izuna bought his soaps from clan vendors who no longer fucking exist, so like, it's definatley helpful.
Karin is the only one of them to have any real hint of where tf Izuna came from (tho even she doesn't have the full details) it'd be cool if she was the one to figure out more details ab his general mystery— maybe something about her chakra sensing gives her a hint as to how old he really is?? Or she finds the paper trail that hints towards the bodies being mixed up???? Idk but she deserves to have an "aha!" moment
Also Izuna's medical knowledge/standards are NOT up to modern and Karin is so mad about it, she's giving him hella lessons on first aid n shit and he's very, very interested in all this free medical knowledge
I know the least about Jugo so bear with me on this one pls— I think Izuna would find Jugo to be pretty fascinating as a person actually. He enjoys tentatively poking him with sticks, and comes to genuinley like him as a person (when he's calm) pretty quickly
Also cats love Izuna so he gets bonus points from Jugo bc of that, they can bond while petting Izuna's contracted cats or smthn idk
Yeah I really don't know much ab Jugo so that's all I have to offer sorry
Ok let's backtrack a bit, back to Orochimaru ->
Fun scene towards the very start of the fic, where Izuna still has no fucking clue what's going on, but recognizes Orochimaru as a member of the Orochi clan. He says as much, and Orochimaru has to pause.
No one's mentioned his clan to him in years. They haven't been relevant in Konoha since Orochimaru was born— even before that, they were barley relevant. Izuna should not know who they are.
(The only reason he does know is bc they had a neutral to positive relationship w the Uchiha back in the warring era, and Izuna had visited them once before)
Immediatley, Orochimaru is squinting at this guy. He's giving Danzo a ring asking who exactly he got sent over, but Danzo doesn't actually have anything to offer him??? The paperwork is a mess and there were a LOT of Uchiha. He's not registered as a shinobi tho.
Hmmmm.... ok.
Orochimaru is suddenly aware there's some kind of mystery here now, which is dangerous for Izuna. Izuna is, again, in enemy territory, and he's able to pick up on the fact that Orochimaru doesn't actually know who he is. This ofc means that HE sure as hell won't be telling him.
Maybe he bares his teeth and sarcastically says he's the second coming of Uchiha Madara (not even that big of a lie when u think ab it)
Pivoting time ->
Izuna is listed in the data books as like, being equally as talented as Madara and I think we should talk ab that more actually
I love Tobirama but he really did get him by surprise
Izuna just got cocky and taken by surprise!!
HE DIDNT EVEN GET COCKY HE JUST LOGICALLY DIDNT EXPECT TOBIRAMA TO FUCKING INVENT TELEPORTATION
Then he went down in the history books both in canon and out of it as the weakest of the 4, that's so tragic
Izuna gets mermaid edo tenseid and (once people know who he is) everyone is like "Ok well at least he's uhh. The weakest of the 4 right?? I mean tobirama killed him when they were like only 19/20 so we'll probably be fine???"
Then he just fucking bodies them all bc hes a nightmare actually AND on whatever special test trial edo tensei steroids they gave him
Izuna is fueled on rage and spite and he's full up on both
Imagine he gets the full story of everything that happened while he was dead too, like.
Ok so Madara goes against his EXPRESS dying wishes and makes his village. (what the fuck!!) Then backs out (yay!!) but in an awful way that effectively fucks over the entire clan for years to come (nii-san what the FUCK)
Then gets literally backstabbed by Hashirama (HE FUCKING TOLD YOU!!! WHAT DID HE FUCKING SAY!!!!!)
Then the Uchiha seem to thrive and like. Ok. He's still mad about it, but at least something... kind of nice came out of it.
THEN BOTH THE VILLAGE AND MADARA'S(?????) SCHEMES KILL THEIR ENTIRE CLAN
Izuna is SO mad at literally everyone, holy shit. The only one safe from his rage is Hikaku, god rest his poor, poor soul
Actually, I think it'd be funny if Izuna was like, indescribably extra awful mad at everyone— but then is like. Normal mad amounts at Tobirama, who was a bitch but at least didn't seem to carry on a personal fucking vendetta against the Uchiha like EVERYONE ELSE INCLUDING FUCKING MADARA FOR SOME GODDAMN REASON
Izuna is going like, "FUCK you, FUCK you, OH, EXTRA FUCK YOU—" then squints at Tobirama and goes "...fuck you." Then goes back to screaming
To be clear, Tobirama absolutely contributed to the end of the Uchiha, but like. A) it'd be funny, and B) at least his seemed slightly less on purpose than literally everyone else
There's also I think a difference of like. Izuna never expected Tobirama to suddenly turn around and be pro Uchiha
Where as everyone else (again, including his brother!!) Was like. A genuine betrayal
Tobirama fucking over the clan was never a surprise
He never pretended to be on their side (like Hashirama lowkey did)
Tobirama vs Izuna but it's them getting to relive their rivalry where as Izuna vs literally anyone else is emotionally charged as hell and filled with demented screaming
Leaving it there for now, I might actually try to write this one but who tf knows
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I really like your blog and I love your opinion about the Uchiha massacre because usually when you meet a Sasuke or Uchiha stan some of then go wild about how every Uchiha didn't do anything wrong although they like ignoring how Madara and Obito played a part in what hapended to Sasuke's clan. Like I don't think that Danzo's plan was great but and the same time I don't support a coup, neither of them were good I don't support neither of them.
Awww, Anon!!! Finally.....!!!! I always wanted to write about this. Whoever you are, this is what I'll give you. ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
UCHIHA MASSACRE - MY TAKE
When you meet a Sasuke or Uchiha stan some of them go wild about how every Uchiha didn't do anything wrong although they like ignoring how Madara and Obito played a part in what happened to Sasuke's clan.
Those Sasuke or Uchiha apologists, they are just like the majority of the Uchiha clan who likes to blame everything on the other people or the entire world for their sufferings rather than acknowledging their own mistakes due to circumstances. Very few Uchihas stopped attaching themselves to the clan and completely accepted their own mistakes, say Itachi, Shisui, Sasuke. But they don’t matter for them.
And another reason is, Sasuke stans simply refuse to evolve along with his character. Sasuke is clearly an amazing and complicated character who evolved from
‘I don’t care about anything in this world’
to
‘This world fucked me up. I am going to fuck them back’
to
‘I don’t want anyone to suffer like me. I am going to protect the world’.
Conveniently, Sasuke stans will ignore this above development. They are still living in the ‘Destroy Konoha’ stage. They never moved on. They were never willing to learn what Sasuke learnt from Hashirama’s flashback and Itachi’s flashback.
All I wanted to asked those ‘Destroy Konoha’ stans, ‘Is your country, a bright paradise with no tint of black history in your pages??? Every country did something horrible to another country or to its own citizens at some point of time and even now. Does this means, will you burn your country to the Ground?? Don’t you want to reform your homeland and change it??’.
That’s what Sasuke decided to do. what’s wrong with his decision???
According to those Uchiha stans, their favourite character’s sufferings were the worst in this entire world and the other people are just living happily. They put themselves in the place of their favourite character and empathize with them, which is very good and I appreciate them.
But I would be happy if they spend an ounce of their braincells to put themselves in the place of other characters who suffered badly because of the bad choices of their fav character. But they chose to turn their blind eye on everything they don’t agree.
I’ve even seen a big meta post on How Madara never did anything wrong?? I just can’t stop laughing at that buffoonery. Even Madara himself accepted his futile dream was impossible.
First off, I love Madara. I just love this character for his absolute sass, straightforwardness and his diva-like attitude. I can even write a book about him. He featured in my top 10 Naruto characters on which I have written a post too. But claiming, ‘Madara did nothing wrong’ is just a stupidity to the power of million.
Madara's descent into Darkness was attributed to the loss of his only living brother Izuna. So Madara and his stans had to find a scapegoat for his sufferings.
Who would it be?
Yeah, Let's go and hate Tobirama.
When in reality, Izuna died because
Madara was hellbent on fighting with Senju Clan repeatedly to protect the dignity of Uchiha clan. [What fucking dignity you will achieve by fighting anyway??]
Madara listened to his brother and chose not to agree for the peace pact. Otherwise, Hashirama with his healing skills could've saved him.
I need an answer from those stans, Why Tobirama has to hold back from killing Izuna???
They are not even friends in the first place. They both are just like any other soldiers in the battlefield who happened to fight their brother's war. Even if Tobirama died in that battle, Hashi would still go for peace terms because for him, changing the Shinobi world is much more important than his personal loss. That’s why he was hellbent on keeping his friendship with Madara despite losing 2 of his brothers, who were killed by Uchiha clan.
Again, those stans would find another reason, ‘Tobirama was against Madara to become Hokage, Which made Madara to change’.
Sorry??? What?
It was repeatedly shown many times How Madara was a power hungry-bitch from the POV of Ohnoki, the Tsuchikage and our much beloved Kurama.
Madara simply told Kurama to ‘Obey!!’
Madara snubbed Ohnoki ‘There will be no alliance from now on, you will obey Konoha’.
Is this how you handle leaders from the other Village??? Is he suitable to become Hokage at all????
Leave the Hokage position, Is he a good Clan Leader in the first place??? After his baby brother was injured, he just abandoned his clan members on the battlefield to suffer the consequences and disappeared.
Who will follow him?
Tobirama saw this power hungry side of him and the council would have noticed this. Hence, Madara cannot become Hokage by any logic. Even his clan members don’t agree with Madara becoming Hokage and dumped him.
Alright, Even if he wanted to become Hokage, what should he have done?? Should have worked for the village and protected them with all his might.
Instead,
He left the village. Ok, acceptable.
He swore vengeance on his clan for betraying him. Ummmm, what????
He attacked Konoha again and again. Shit!!!! Why????
Those stans would silently keep quiet about this lurking hatred and start to spout how Uchiha was oppressed and all the bullshit.
Am sorry, Uchiha clan was destroyed because of the seed planted by a single person from their very own clan. That person is none other than Uchiha Madara.
Well, I am not the only one saying this. The Databook also says the same.
‘Madara’s crime that led to the decline of the Uchiha’.
It’s blatantly plastered in the block quotes who was responsible.
KYUUBI INCIDENT
Did it stop with Madara??
Nope.
Obito, Madara’s protege, summoned Kyuubi which took many lives in the village including everyone’s beloved Yondaime Hokage, Minato.
Believe me, When I started the series, I also hated the villagers for being too harsh on Naruto. Whatever it may be, he was just a child. I, someone, who also faced some amount of prejudice (though not like Naruto) from the people in my state because of the clan I belong to, I can thoroughly understand Naruto.
But
It was all until that fateful Chapter 501 or Shippuden Episode 248.
I just couldn’t take that episode well emotionally. The sheer amount of destruction Kyuubi brought to Konoha is shocking and palpable. Everyone was losing their lives like a dying flies.
Now, this episode made me understand, why the villagers treated Naruto like a pest. Because of the sheer amount of trauma Naruto carries within him, which can go out of control at any time.
This doesn’t mean I support the villagers behaviour. But that’s how the world works and I can understand them.
Now I want to ask those apologists, ‘Why don’t you put yourself in the place of the villagers? Iruka lost his parents because of an Uchiha. Minato and Kushina lost their lives because of an Uchiha. Naruto became a Jinchuriki because of an Uchiha. Don’t you people consider them as humans at all?’
The classic answer those stans, comes up with will be, ‘It was just one Uchiha, it is pointless to blame the entire clan. Moreover nobody had any proof that an Uchiha summoned Kyuubi’.
Am Sorry. Every Jack and Jill in that village knew Madara, their ancestor, once attacked their village with the help of Kyuubi not once but 3 times. It means only an Uchiha has the power to do it. Aren’t they capable of putting 2+2 together to know the fact?
Does this means I blame the entire Uchiha Clan for Kyuubi Incident???
Shit, No.
And it seems, none of those stans understands how the Clan infrastructure works. Just to let you know, If there is a suspicion that falls on the clan and if that suspicion was never cleared or nobody could find the real culprit, then that prejudice will inevitably fall on the entire clan. It’s up to that particular clan to prove everyone wrong.
What follows is based on the true story of my clan
My clan was also somewhat of an asshole clan like Uchiha. One of my asshole ancestor burned 50 households along with women and children just to show off his superiority ass to the rival Clan. Doesn’t he sounds like Madara? grrr....
So, whenever something bad happens to that clan, Our clan will be inevitably judged and prejudiced until proven wrong.
Now can I really blame the rival clan for their prejudice??
I should be an asshole If I do that. Because that clan has lost many precious people in their past which cannot be forgotten that easily. It’s just the burden we have to bear. And moreover, my clan, being so proud, never tried to mend the fences with that clan.
The only way out of this messy tangle of a situation is to Not to stick myself to this petty thing called Clan and see what’s beyond. That is to see everyone as a fellow human being and strive to initiate friendship regardless of their clan.
Isn’t this somewhat similar to what Itachi told to his clan members??
I mentioned in many posts that I always see myself in Itachi. I left my parents because they were too obsessed with their clan, used me as a tool and never respected my wishes.
It’s precisely for this reason Itachi killed his parents and his clan members. Because they went in the wrong way to organize a fucking Coup which will cause another Shinobi World War and destroy the village.
Do you know how Uchiha Clan planned to perform their coup?
If Uchiha Clan kidnapped their Hokage, do you think other clans will remain silent??? And why Fugaku has to make himself an Hokage? All the other demands seems reasonable. Why don’t they approach Hiruzen directly for this request???? What is the need for the coup at all??
What a responsible Clan should have done after Kyuubi incident is to find the truth using their fucking Sharingan. They should have made desperate attempts to find out the culprit and proved the Government that they bear no ill-will.
Instead, what they did was to hole up together like a cult community and organized a stupid coup which would have instigated the other clans.
Why didn’t the Uchiha clan tried to initiate peace talks?
Why didn’t the Uchiha clan tried to organize a peaceful protest to show their dissatisfaction?
Why didn’t the Uchiha clan respected Uchiha Shisui’s dying wish as mentioned in his suicide note? They don’t even care about him as a fellow clan members.
Why didn’t the Uchiha clan respected Uchiha Itachi’s opinions?
Their classic answer would be ‘Poor Uchihas were persecuted like Slaves and Dogs’.
Hmmm... My Ass.
Canonically, Sasuke was a celebrated kid in the part 1. Every girls loved him and every boys respected him for his superior abilities. During the Chunin Exams, every Jack and Jill were waiting for his match.
They betted heavy money on him. They even postponed his match because he was revered as someone from the prestigious Uchiha Clan.
Is this how you treat someone from a persecuted clan???
I am sorry, where I come from, persecution is something you intentionally corner up a clan and deprive them of the basic amenities like Water, Electricity and Transport.
Those stans are carelessly using a term that undermines a real victim from persecution. I have seen the victims of persecution with my very own eyes. Uchihas don’t even come close to these tragedies.
Itachi and Sasuke were treated with utmost respect from his peers and the villagers alike.
The only person who was persecuted horribly like a dog in Konoha was Uzumaki Naruto.
And that poor child never let these inconveniences as a factor to drown himself in hatred and instead gathered his positive spirit, he desperately tried his best to make everyone to acknowledge him. And he succeeded in that too.
Compared to Naruto’s mistreatment, Uchiha clan’s ostracization is nothing. They were forced to move to the outskirts of the village, a decision which was taken by Konoha Higher Ups, mostly Danzo. It was not the decision of the people in the village. Uchiha clan were respected by the villagers in high regard, even today.
If Naruto, a single person can make an entire village to subvert their opinion, why can’t Uchiha clan, a group of few hundred people, try their best to show their sincerity?
I believe all these fuck ups from Uchiha clan led an opportunistic, paranoid, crass bastard like Danzo to facilitate the massacre. God, I hate this Danzo. There are many real life Danzos in my state who literally wants to stir trouble and I can’t stand these malicious monsters.
Does this means I support Konoha’s decision to move Uchiha Clan to the outskirts of the village???
Fuck, No.
Does this means I support Konoha’s decision to massacre the Uchiha Clan???
Again, Fucking No.
They definitely should have initiated peace talks and asked Uchiha clan about their demands. But again, Danzo prevented everything in his power to stop the peace talks and went behind the council’s back and ordered Itachi to carry on this tragedy.
Hiruzen being an oblivious idiot who was not capable of holding the reins on Danzo and let everything into chaos easily. This is not the only instance where he screwed up, he couldn’t even do anything about Orochimaru which led Oro to collaborate with Danzo later to crush Konoha. Geeez!!!!!
What a naive idiot!!!
At the end of the day, Hiruzen and those old hags were drinking tea while staying oblivious to Danzo’s evil plan which was being concocted like a slow poison behind the screen.
And when the perfect time came, he used Uchiha Itachi to eliminate the entire Uchiha clan. Cringe Bastard!!!!!
UCHIHA CLAN JUSTICE
Now again, at the end, stans are fretting about Uchiha clan justice....
Ummmm.... Whaaaat???? What justice do you expect????
Danzo was mercilessly killed by Sasuke 10 times.
Hiruzen was already dead.
Those old hags don’t even matter because they are just some head shaking dolls for Danzo.
Itachi died for killing his clan and what’s worse, he died carrying the name of the Traitor.
Sasuke was considered as someone who avenged his clan by killing his brother.
Sasuke asked all the Hokages about Uchiha Clan Justice and he came to a conclusion which you all know. The last survivor of Uchiha decided to fight for Konoha.
What else do you expect???? Why hate Naruto, the character????? Naruto never promised anything to get justice for Uchiha. If you want the truth behind Uchiha Massacre to be announced to the world, then you are doing nothing but a buffoonery.
If people of Konoha come to know that the prestigious Uchiha Clan had once organized a coup against the village, then no one will respect Uchiha Clan anymore.
Look how Cho-Cho considers Sarada in high regard, even in Borutoverse. Do you want to spoil Sarada’s reputation as well??
And Sasuke, from his own words, calling Itachi, ‘Perfect!’. Despite killing his clan members and his parents, he can call his brother ‘Perfect!!’. So, why don’t they accept Sasuke’s feelings???
Sasuke speaks clearly in this panel that when he fought beside Itachi he remembered his past and the lovely days he spent with him. This means, he holds no resentment towards Itachi and his decision to massacre his clan. He just resents Konoha, at this point, for putting his Brother through such immeasurable pain.
But later, Sasuke reanimated all the Hokages and learnt Konoha’s beginnings and was really admired by them. That’s why he decided to protect the village in his own way.
As a Last Uchiha survivor, Sasuke himself accepted that his brother Itachi has the only right to talk about Uchiha clan and Madara was wrong, even though he was the leader of that clan once. He even called him ‘Perfect’. This scene means, Sasuke understands Itachi’s decision to put the curtain on his own clan.
Sasuke himself accepted Uchiha clan were wrong but Uchiha stans won’t. What a pity!!!!
Now the stans can shout only one thing, ‘Kishimoto did Sasuke wrong. He did dirty. Let’s go Anti Kishimoto, Anti Naruto, Anti Konoha, Anti Itachi. Konoha should have been burned by my baby Sasuke. But made him a bootlicker’
All I can do is only to Cackle.
So, to conclude,
Uchiha Madara decided to get revenge on his Clan.
Uchiha Obito carried Madara’s Will and summoned Kyuubi.
Danzo, a paranoid bastard, ostracized Uchiha Clan.
Uchiha Fugaku, the clan leader organized an idiotic Coup.
Hiruzen, being an oblivious idiot, procrastinated along with the other old hags.
Danzo, an opportunistic bitch, ordered the massacre.
Itachi bore the burdens of Hatred from Madara, Obito and Danzo.
Itachi weighed Sasuke’s life plus safety of the Village and massacred his Clan with the help of Obito as a mission assigned by Danzo, the limpd**k.
This tragedy could’ve been prevented if both the sides tried to communicate with each other rather than plotting against each other.
The only good Uchihas are Kagami, Shisui, Itachi and at last Sasuke.
Apart from the names above, Uchiha clan was not an Innocent Clan.
Uchiha Clan got their Justice from Sasuke.
Sasuke understood and accepted his brother’s decision and decided to carry his Will, to protect Konoha along with Naruto.
END OF STORY.
#ask#naruto analysis#anti uchiha apologist#uchiha#itachi#itachi uchiha#sasuke#sasuke uchiha#obito#obito uchiha#madara#madara uchiha#danzo#hiruzen#pro will of fire#shisui uchiha#shisui#naruto
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I was tagged in this WIP Challenge, where I share some unpublished WIPS that you are free to ask about. Thank you, @excalisi !! … Unfortunately I’m not sure I know enough writers / follow enough people to really tag anyone. So if you see this, feel free to do it!
MARVEL. No powers, zombie apocalypse AU where Peter has to care for toddler Miles and Anya (Wade/Peter)
MARVEL. Peter crashes on an island and there’s something in the water (Mer!Bucky/Peter)
MARVEL. AU where peter takes custody of the carnage symbiote after the red goblin arc (pairing TBD.)
MARVEL. AU where the Red Skull targets the entire Parker family instead of just killing Mary and Richard (Bucky/Peter)
MARVEL. AU after Absolute Carnage / remix of King in Black, Dylan “suffers” because everyone thinks he has two dads now (Eddie/Peter)
MARVEL. Peter is never bitten by the spider, but he’s still something of a morality-driven wrecking ball. (Frank/Peter + possibly Matt)
MARVEL. inspired by All Of Us Are Dead, Peter + friends try to survive their high school being ground zero for a zombie outbreak (Matt/Peter)
NARUTO. OC is reborn as Gaara, messes up, and is sent back in time
NARUTO. OC is reborn as the worst (or best) possible person. Uchiha Izuna.
NARUTO. A collection of all the little reasons Sai and Ino fall in love.
KHR. Tsunayoshi graduates high school, moves to Italy, and realizes he’s in love with his Guardians *minus Lambo.
KHR. Kyouya is the only one Tsuna tells about his plan to die. Kyouya breaks a lot of shit in response. Angst TYL-fest.
Yeah, I realize I have a lot of marvel plot-bunnies. Can’t help it. Spider-man brain go brrr. Didn’t include future ULTRAVIOLENT series updates because…it’s secret.
#this was a bad idea#i love neurotically talking about all my plots like that one picture from it’s always sunny in Phil.
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Your opinions on Hashirama and Tsunade? 👀👀
@lluu50
Hi there! Thanks for asking and sorry it took so long
Since there are 2 characters, I'm going to answer you in separate posts so it won't be too long!
Hashirama
Favorite thing about them: That he never gave up on his dreams and always believed that peace was possible, I would have given up after the second brother died ngl
Least favorite thing about them: There is nothing in him that I dislike, I love everything about him, the good things and his flaws, I like him a lot as a character and even though we had little of him in the manga I think it was well written.
But if I have to put something it would not be something about him, but the little information we have about him. I want to know more about his personal life, was his marriage with Mito really arranged (because according to maths, if Mito is Tsunade's grandmother then they must have married long before the existence of Konoha)? How did he get along with her? How many children did he have?
To me he seems like the type of person who would like many children but at the same time I feel that he didn't want to bring them into a world to suffer (but he had to have at least one due to his political position) how did he die? We know when (first ninja war) but not how.
How did Madara's death affect him? Because regardless of the Hashimada, Hashirama canonically loved Madara as a close friend and killing someone so important to you must really fucked you up, he must have felt very sad to say the least.
OTP:
Take a guess ;)
nOTP: I have nothing against HashiIzu, but I just can't see it. To me Izuna hates Hashirama and likes him at best. I think it's one of those ships that you start shipping ironically and before you know it you actually ship it.
Random headcanon: He knows fuinjutsu, at least the basics/more than average. He knows how to use them, not to the degree of using seals in his battle style like Tobirama or Tenten do, but enough to understand seal technicalities.
One of my headcanons is that the Senju clan and the Uzumaki clan, being sisters clans, shared information and knowledget (NOT ALL their knowledge such as secret jutsus, but quite a lot of information) and from there Tobirama got the information necessary to create the hiraishin, because he had knowledge of the Uzumaki clan about seals and this also includes Hashirama.
My only proof of this? Hashirama used a weapons scroll in the ova of his battle with Madara.
Is that enough? No.
We have seen that type of scrolls used by different characters and therefore is it common information? Yes, but let me have this.
Also, in his battle against Madara, Hashirama got rid of the Kyubi by taking it out of Madara's control with a very strange jutsu.
It looks like a seal to me, or was it a genjutsu? A combination of both maybe? 👀
Unpopular opinion: I think he can be dumb and very smart at the same time.
I think Hashirama is pretty smart, we know that Tobirama created a lot of Konoha's important institutions (ex: the academy, the police station, the chunin exams, he was the one who mentioned that the Hokage election should be democratic although it's not known if the last was his idea, and yes, the last one went to hell with the others Hokage “elections” and also the police station and the chunin exams had ulterior motives) and also it doesn't seem very far-fetched to me to assume that Tobirama helped in battle strategies and leading the Senju clan in the warring states era, but that doesn't mean that Hashirama was a puppet that could be manipulate by anyone.
He was a smart person, he survived the warring states era and that's not done with pure power, you have to be quite smart (and strong and lucky, we have to admit) for that, he warned kid Madara of the ambush that his father and brother had for him without his father noticing (Butsuma noticed it because Madara ran away, not because of something Hashirama did), he was the clanhead of the Senju Clan in an era of war, he was and has always been respected by Madara (and I highly doubt Madara would respect an idiot), he was the first user of the mokuton and had to invent all the wood-style jutsus from scratch.
We all recognize Tobirama as an inventor of jutsus, but Hashirama was also one because I repeat, he was the first user of the mokuton to ever exist, he (and nobody) had no previous knowledge of that and still managed to perfect his kekkei genkai and made it his main fighting style.
Another point that proves his intelligence is that he was able to master the sage mode, not everyone can do that. And I want to remember that Naruto needs to concentrate several minutes to be able to access that mode, Hashirama can do it in a damn second (by this I don't mean that Hashirama is better than Naruto, just that Hashirama is very amazing).
So yes, Hashirama was a pretty smart person.
But he was also an idiot.
But not an idiot idiot, but an idiot who likes being an idiot.
Hashirama gives me a lot of vibes of being the type of person who likes to play dumb just for fun. Let the man be stupid! He has always had many responsibilities and things to worry about, first as clan heir, then as clan head and then as Hokage. Let him relax and have fun doing stupid things! You know what was pretty stupid? Talking to a boy he didn't know and suspected and then confirmed that was a shinobi, then made fun of his ability to throw rocks. You know what was stupider? Return to that place. And that was one of the best things that could have happened to him.
So yeah, Hashirama is a smart person but he's also stupid and I'm happy for him.
Song I associate with them: Uff this will get long
«Dear Theodosia -Hamilton»
You will come of age with our young nation
We'll bleed and fight for you
We'll make it right for you
If we lay a strong enough foundation
We'll pass it on to you, we'll give the world to you
And you'll blow us all away
Someday, someday
Yeah, you'll blow us all away
Someday, someday
...
My father wasn't around (my father wasn't around)
I swear that I'll be around for you
I'll do whatever it takes (I'll make a million mistakes)
I'll make the world safe and sound for you
Ok, but are you telling me this doesn't sound like something Hashirama would say to his children? 🥺
Is literally what Konoha means to him
«The Chain -Fleetwood Mac»
Ngl the only reason for this is THIS scene from Our Flag Means Death. I wasn't interested in watching the show until I saw this scene and I was inmediately sold.
Just imagine it, Hashirama as Stede and Madara as Edward/Blackbeard (or in his case Blackmane?) ;)
youtube
«Oh No -Marina and the Diamonds»
This is one of those songs that it only has sense to me bc I imagine the lyrics in a very specific scenario (someday I'll learn to make animatics and the world will shake 😤) but if anyone is curious to why I associate Hashirama with this song just ask
«The Family Jewels -Marina and the Diamonds»
I can't break the cycle, am I just a fool?
Falling down like dominoes, hit by family jewels
Pass it down from kid to kid, the chain will never end
'Less I decide to go to it, will I see the end?
Do I really need to explain?
There are many more songs that remind me of him but it's mainly because they remind me of Hashimada so I put them aside for now ;)
Favorite picture of them:
Tumblr won't let me post any more images so I'll post a video ;)
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don't you dare to say sorry for ranting I LIVE FOR YAPPING ABOUT AUS
I love everything you wrote. I'm gonna yap some more
Madara honestly lives his best life. His brother is alive, he got peace, he scored a man of his dreams, who he fell for when he was a child. He just thinks he's super lucky and "Life is great!" so even if Zetsu ever tries to tell him about Infinite Tsukuyomi he be like "Why the illusion? My life is already perfect :)"
Then a day later, shot to Tobirama who violently tries to kill/seal Zetsu. the only one who knows about Zetsu is probably Mito. They probably meet under the guise of "Oh you know, it's our wife-meetings"
"Wife meetings?"
"Of course, Mito-nee-san and I always strive to be better wives for you and Hashirama. So we meet to talk and exchange experience."
Everyone (except Itama cuz he probably helps and Izuna cuz he SUSPECTS) think they meet to gossip, but they actually making super complicated seal matrix to seal Zetsu.
Also Madara is kinda concerned that his brother is so unhappy and still suspicious and Tobirama just "Idk, maybe he needs to get laid" - he just literally doesn't know what to do with Izuna in the village except to keep him alive. He prob would try to sabotage him going on dangerous missions like "Oh no he broke a leg before the mission what a pity" or to mark him with Hiraishin mark just in case + monitoring him with his sensing.
So every time Izuna bitches about Tobirama planning something Madara is gravely offended "You're so ungrateful! He always worries when you go out on missions! You're like his own little brother!"
And Tobirama just stands there, nods and smiles to Izuna with the smile that just asks for a fist. (tho he really worries but not for the right reasons)
Oh and Uchiha would definitely mark them as the best couple ever. Them and Hashirama/Mito are 2 power couples no one messes around with.
Everyone wants to get a match like that, every wife strives to be such an understanding person to their husband. Basically Tobirama started a trend for open communication in couples. Oh and Itama's antidepressants and weed help ofc (yay for future Kakashi and Sakumo (honestly can you imagine Kakashi on weed)
Tobirama orchestrating meetings PLEASE I love it!!! Maybe he's saving some Uchiha children from bloodline thieves and all that "I'm so good with children, see Madara, wouldn't I be such a great wife? Where the fuck is my engagement ring or whatever you Uchiha do?"
Who knows maybe he'd invent mpreg just for funsies. He'd def keep his flock of students. (Imagine Danzo being very pro-Uchiha, cuz his teacher is now married to Uchiha clan head.)
Speaking of Itama, he def helped Tobirama with orchestrating some meetings with Madara and generally be like "Well, you do you, brother, if you really want him for something... Share research later pls"
At first Itama thought Tobirama is interested cuz he wanted to research sharingan but for that he needs to be an Uchiha. But then he's like "Oh, peace, how nice. Are you happy in your marriage, Bibi-chan?"
And then proceed to Tobirama who realises that, actually, he is happy in his marriage. He's loved and adored by his husband, his clan treats him well, he's quite entertained by his brother-in-law's suffering, he has his little students and basically adopted Kagami.
"Yes, I am happy." And then he gives Itama sharingan research bc why wouldn't he try to fix his husband's eye problem? (Madara's eyesight worsened and he doesn't wash dishes well enough cuz he can't see. That's a big problem)
So about Time Travel Tobirama
He gets back in his childhood, the period when Kawarama was already dead, but Itama still alive, just cuz I like Itama alive and well, ok. (also i love the idea of Itama the weed shinobi by @oh-no-its-bird so)
And he starts to think and strategise smth like "Ok, I need to kill Black Zetsu, but idk where he is. But he should be around Uchihas, so I must come closer. But I cant just go there, we're not in peace, they'd kill me. And I don't exactly know when Black Zetsu is gonna try to manipulate Madara. So I also have to monitor Madara and make sure Izuna doesn't ever dies, to ensure that Madara won't lose his shit".
So, he's really logical and his conclusion was "So the easiest way to monitor the Uchiha clan is to marry an Uchiha." But he can't just marry a random Uchiha, it'd be shitty for politics he is the clan heir after Hashirama after all + it'd be nice way to strengthen peace via marriage. Plus he needs to keep close eye to Madara. So. Marrying Madara it is. Or Izuna. But first of all, Izuna is annoying and second he still needs very carefully look for potential signs of Black Zetsu corruption and it's better to do that when they're in close quarters. So the best case scenario is Madara's hand in marriage.
Killing Madara might be easier, but Hashirama would be sad. Plus I think the ppl who helped him to be sent in the past (coughnaruto who said that) told him smth about that Madara and Hashirama are Indra and Ashura reincarnations and be like "What if daddy Sage gets angry..."
So yeah no killing Madara. Even though he kinda wants to.
And to be clear, he had this plan in the few days he's back in his baby body. He's like 10-12 or whatever, when Hashi starts running to the river to meet Madara. Oh and Itama is safe and sound cuz Tobi said fuck Butsuma and went to safe his baby brother.
So one day Tobirama follows his brother to the river to actually meet Madara before his father decides to fuck everything.
So, Tobirama's the most fucked up honeypot mission officially begun. Tobirama is gonna be like "Ok i need to impress a 12 yo... But I cant just show him a cool jutsu, he might think about me as a rival or whatever... Kids like praise and cool things... Maybe I can tell him that he's cute and find him a cool stick? Should I ask Anija to make a cool stick?"
He meets Madara (without a stick, Hashirama might've suspect smth) and be like "Wow, Anija who would've known you've made such a cute friend" (Tobirama is hard cringing in his head, he's not the best in honeypot missions) and Madara, being about 12 year old, is standing there covered in mud, cuz Hashirama threw him into river or whatever + the little hc that he's kinda ugly when he's in his teens. Like Madara thinks of himself as strong and cool, but not particularly handsome with his wild hair and eye bags.
So Madara is smitten cuz wow pretty boy with red eyes said that He's cute!!!
Tobirama looks at Madara's dopey smile and thinks of the first phase as a success. Now Tobirama starts to spend some time with Hashirama and Madara to monitor their surroundings from their clans, while Itama distracts their father, and also try to win over Madara when he is still an impressionable kid. Plus he starts hinting that they may be Senju and Uchiha and that they should be prepared. But well they're kids who wants to escape all that war and just play with a peer so.
Long story short, Madara be like "So we're gonna make a village and then I'm gonna marry Tobirama!"
Tobi "fuck yes, a bit ahead of the schedule, but sounds good, i'm in"
Hashirama is outraged bc THATS HIS LIL BROTHER!!!
So Tobirama plays hard and makes Madara promise to marry him when they're old enough.
But then well, they're still found out and they still have a fallout cuz of their clans. But Tobirama made them promise to try hard for peace (and marriage), so now they just have to wait til Butsuma dies and Hashirama can become a clan head.
Tobirama tries not to be so efficient at killing Uchihas cuz he will be their family later so he tries to avoid it and just knock out or use some non lethal methods. Hashirama mostly fights Madara and it's almost sparrings at this point. Itama works on his weed empire and learns healing.
Well one day Butsuma dies and Hashirama and Tobirama bully their Elders and rush to try for peace. Tajima (who I think is still alive) is suspicious of all of it and stalls af.
So one day on the battlefield Tobirama says "So, marriage when? You promised asshole", making all the Uchiha and Senju stumble and "HUH?!"
So now many of the Senju and Uchiha now know that Uchiha clan heir apparently proposed to the Senju heir ??? Everyone is confused.
Madara, still crushing hard on Tobirama, catches this opportunity and bullies everyone to allow peace and let him marry Tobirama. Uchiha allow it only cuz everyone knows how crazy Uchihas about loved ones and Madara is the strongest one. They kinda afraid that if they won't allow it, he'd go crazy (he would).
So Madara gets his trophy wife Tobirama, Tobirama gets his safari zone with Uchihas in their natural habitat.
Tobirama is a surprisingly good husband to Madara, cuz with all that Zetsu thing, he's attentive as hell. "Something bothering you, dear husband? Do tell me everything."
At first they think he'd learn things and will tell that all back to Senju, but Tobirama tries to assure them "I don't really care about details. Tell me about how it makes you feel." (he looks for the signs of Zetsu corruption)
So basically Tobirama marries Madara to become his therapist. Madara is very much in love and constantly brags how much his spouse loves him and that he always listens his worries.
Izuna is mad as fuck about all of it btw. He thinks that Tobirama has ulterior motives and hides something. (He's right. ) But Tobirama dutifully plays his part as an attentive spouse and makes plans for bettering Uchiha clan just so that the village won't suffer. He'd probably would prescribe them regular therapy for everyone who awoken Sharingan.
also @fashionredalert write a snippet for this au with madara in the mud! pls check it out!
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THe Home I Crave - Chapter 10
Title: The Home I Crave
Genre: Fanfiction
Pairing: Tobirama Senju x reader
Rating: teen and up
Word count:
Chapter: 10/?
Symbols: ⭕ | ➕ | 💛 | ▶️▶️
Read the previous chapters here: Chapter 1, Chapter 2, Chapter 3, Chapter 4, Chapter 5, Chapter 6, Chapter 7, Chapter 8, Chapter 9
Chapter 10 - The Clause
Fortunately for you, Tobirama still had some matters to discuss with the Hokage, so that he saw no problem in staying while Mito accompanied you to your house. None of you had a teleportation jutsu as him, but your houses were not so far from one another and you weren’t feeling so weak that you couldn’t walk, so you just took some minutes to finally reach the front door.
The first thing you did once you were inside was to drink water: it helped you to clear up your senses and to wash away the remaining bitterness in your mouth. After that, you could breathe and talk properly. Then you took a bath and started to prepare your bed.
Mito helped you with what she could; soon everything was settled and you were sure you’d get better in some hours.
However, the conversation you started in her bathroom wasn’t over.
- Y/n-san.
- Yes?
- I told you about how our actions can influence the situation between our clans and such, but I forgot to tell you something. It is more about Tobirama than about our Village and the clans, if I’m being honest.
- Really? And what is it?
You were in your bedroom now; you were on your futon, while she took a sit on a couch you had near it. You crossed your legs on the mattress as if you were about to hear a long story.
- I told many things about him, that’s true, but I didn’t explain why he’s so attached to rules and protocols even for an advisor – she took a deep breath, as someone who had to be careful on how to speak about someone else’s issues – Tobirama might not be as open about his feelings and ideals as Hashirama, but just like his brother he always wanted peace. He grew up as a warrior and the war took two of his brothers from him, as well as many friends and relatives. Of course he was not the only one who suffered with it, but to us it’s clear that he never really moved on, you understand?
That was new to you.
- So... after all these years and with all these alliances, he is still afraid of war?
- Exactly. And this is just one of the things that don’t let him sleep – she united her hands on her lap – I suppose you’ve heard about the rivalry between the Senju and the Uchiha.
- Yes. Of course.
You knew that the creation of Konoha started with the peace treaty signed by the two clans’ current heads, Hashirama and his friend, Madara. The Uchiha was not in the Village by the time you arrived and haven’t returned yet; since your clan didn’t have formal trades with his people, you never met him in person. But you could have news about him at any moment.
- First, let’s just say that him and the Uchiha head, Madara, are not the best friends. Some time before Konoha’s foundation, Tobirama was responsible for the death of Madara’s younger brother, Izuna, when they faced each other in combat. Izuna was the only sibling left for Madara, so naturally he never forgot this. On the other hand, Tobirama’s siblings were killed by Uchiha warriors. Do you understand what I’m trying to say?
You nodded.
- Do you know about the Uchiha’s kekkei genkai, the Sharingan?
- I’ve heard many things about their dojutsu, but never witnessed it in action.
- Indeed, most of its aspects remain a secret even for the wisest ninjas until this day. However, Tobirama has studied the nature and the development of Sharingan and found out its basis before any of us could make a statement. According to what he found out, the Sharingan is a proof that the Uchiha are moved by passion above all, so much that it has to be sealed. Otherwise, it can be quite problematic, as everything can be without discipline.
- I see.
- When the seal that kept the Uchiha’s passion under control is broken, the individual awakens their Sharingan. It is true that having a dojutsu like that is very useful in the battlefield and during missions, but at the same time it represents great levels of unpredictability. To summarize, it turns people unreliable to a certain point.
You finally understood where Mito wanted to go with that.
- And when someone is not reliable, it is harder to make sure they will continue to follow the rules that have been maintaining peace and order, and since the Uchiha are part of Konoha’s base, it represents a constant risk, at least on Tobirama’s eyes.
- You’re really quick to catch things – she smiled, but there was still worry in her eyes – So… In short: Tobirama already has a struggle with passionate individuals to work on. Having one more of them under his roof might be more than he can handle. And you have to admit, y/n-san. You are a passionate and idealistic girl, and you don’t even try to hide it. I’m not saying it is not good thing, but as you can see, it makes things hard.
- As if I am the only one who makes things hard here – you sighed – Guess I don’t even need to tell this to you, Mito-san, but despite not knowing the Uchiha as well as you do, it is obvious that Tobirama will never be totally in peace with them while he’s not in peace with himself. And I just came in the middle of it, I have nothing to do with it and it is not my fault if I am what I am. We all have our issues to deal with, but he can’t just take it out on me like this. I’m trying to make it work, but I can’t do it all by myself. Now, if his resistance towards me is because he finds me similar to the Uchiha as you’re suggesting, this is a poor excuse for his behavior. He cannot forget the fact that my clan always have been in good terms with the Senju, and we never declared support to the Uchiha during the Warring Period. Bringing this back in the form of suspicions is unfair with me and my people. I won’t accept this.
Mito chose her next words with caution.
- I could not agree more. Things are happening too fast for all of us and it’s been hard to keep up with them. But let me tell you that Tobirama knows that there were some renegades from your clan who joined the Uchiha during the Warring Period, fighting beside them as mercenaries. I believe your father told you about this.
Damn it. This man just knows everything?! Yes, you were aware of the existence of renegades who left your clan to fight beside others, including the Uchiha, but the official position of your clan has always been in favor of the Senju. That should be enough, even more now that your marriage has fortified this connection.
- Yes, my father never hid this from us. But Tobirama just can’t use something from the past to make things harder for us now. We are in peace, after all.
- This is exactly what Hashirama is saying to him right now. I could have asked him to do this, but he knows his brother. He’s used to make what’s necessary to calm down the moods in situations like this. At least for now, we don’t have to worry about them.
She sighed in relief for the first time since the conflict started; maybe she was waiting for you two to be alone so that she could have a chance to show how those events were affecting her. You thanked her in silence for this; it made you feel less alone in that house.
You stood in silence for countless minutes. You were the first to speak after that.
- I still remember when you told me that there are things about a man that can only be unveiled by his spouse – she raised her eyes to you and you continued – I’ve been thinking of this since that day, and then when I saw his photograph and in the wedding day. I’ve been seeking for ways to turn this into actions. But a week passed and nothing seemed to change – you looked around the room, too large and too cold for a couple’s private space – We are still strangers to each other. We much effort I can say we are allies. Mito-san…
- Yes? – her tone was lower, sadder.
- I think you gave me a great advice. I really do. But maybe it doesn’t work if a man doesn’t want us to unveil anything.
Mito didn’t hide her deception with what she saw in your face; to her, you were giving up too soon. But what you had to endure to reach this point was something that only you knew. It had nothing to do with her.
- Y/n-san…
- It’s getting late – you stood up and walked toward the room’s door – Hashirama will get worried if you stay out for too long.
The princess didn’t try to argue. Without a word, she left the coach and walked with you to the house’s front door. For one last time, you thanked her for everything she has done for you despite knowing you for so little time.
- You don’t need to thank me – she replied with a sad smile – It is my duty to offer you support. When I first arrived at this Village, I had no one to do this for me. I just don’t want you to face the same as me. This time we can do things differently.
You nodded. You closed the door behind you after she left, your eyes burning with tears you didn’t want to let come out. You agreed with her in each point, each word. You couldn’t be more glad for having found in her a friend who was like a sister. But you already had a sister you left behind in the name of your clan, and now you found out she needed you. You couldn’t turn your back on your own family now that you were aware of the facts; that was not the point of this treaty.
Once you were sure Mito was far from your door, your ran to your room again and found the travel bag you started packing that afternoon, after Tobirama went back to his office and you were left alone to process the bad news and to prepare yourself to dinner at the Hokage’s house. You finished to put in it all the remaining items you would need for a long travel: another change of clothing, more weapons and all the money you brought with you to Konoha – you didn’t know when or how you would come back, but you had to take enough provisions with you so that you wouldn’t depend on your family to pay the expenses of your return. Finally, you went to the kitchen and grabbed some of the things you bought in the marketplace the day before; you already had decided that if you ran out of food, you could find more in a forest or buy something in a tea house.
After drinking a bit more of water, you turned out all the lights and went to the night, disappearing among the trees that grew on the way between Tobirama’s house and the Village’s gates.
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You didn’t know if the silence in the depths of the forest that surrounded the Village’s territory was a reason for you to be worried or relieved, for it could only mean two things: you didn’t have anyone coming after you, or you had exceptionally trained persecutors tracking your path.
The air among the trees was colder than you expected too, despite the absence of winds or breeze on those parts. The humidity was perceptible, and you couldn’t help comparing it to your own land: Konoha had more rivers and lakes in its surroundings, something that you supposed to be a determining factor in its prosperity. You remembered Mito’s comments about Tobirama being a master of Suiton and thought that it was easy for one to sharp their abilities when the environment favored them. Thanks to the same logic, you and your family developed your talent with Doton to a point when you could be mistaken for shinobi of Iwagakure. You started to deliberate about which points of that land would favor your performance as a ninja and in which ones you would have to work in order to win your weaknesses.
It was true that because of your thoughts, all towards your family and your sister’s conditions, your head was too noisy, but as the distance between you and the Village grew, you started to get truly worried about the silence around you. You haven’t noticed a single sign of movement except the ones coming from yourself; not even the small animals expected to be found in a forest seem to be near your way, though Konoha seemed to be a place so full of life when you arrived. It was like the forest just died at some point after your passage; it had nothing to do with what you first saw when you passed through it for the first time with your parents.
Your eyes would go from one side to another and over your shoulder, but nothing changed. You started feeling you were walking in circles, jumping through the same branches in the high trees. Could it be you were lost? Or…
- Damn it! – you cursed to yourself, your whisper sounding like a scream in that stillness – Is it a genjutsu or am I becoming paranoid?
You stopped so suddenly that even the air around you changed. Your feet, firm on a higher branch out of your path, forced the wood and produced some crackling noises. You stood up on it and with one last look at your surroundings, you jumped on your back, doing a flip toward the ground, where your could find a better use to your abilities.
You landed on the grass on one knee and put your palm over it. You closed your eyes and concentrated your attentions on the smell of the earth, trying to catch up with every information it could bring to you. You took off the glove on your right hand and touched the soil with your fingers, sensing the vibrations that would go through it: if a person, an animal or even a bug crossed your surroundings, you would know. Those were tracking techniques your master taught you when she noticed you didn’t have sensory abilities; they have been very useful specially when you were sent to distant places and there were no sensor shinobi available to join your team.
Unfortunately, the earth and its smells didn’t tell you anything about intruders. But you were still suspicious, so that you felt the need of a second, less subtle measure: an earthquake jutsu you developed for cases like that. That jutsu was going to cost you a precious amount of chakra, that was true, but it should be enough to tell your persecutor – if they were really existed – that you weren’t willing to play.
You made the hand signs and your palm touched the ground, sending a seismic wave in circular form that started around your hand and expanded through the ground around you and further. As the earth was shaken, the brown soil, the grass and worms were spread to all sides, and the trees had part of their roots exposed. The only spot that remained untouched was the one upon which you were kneeling.
The impact must have been sensed in the Village at least by the shinobi. But if this would catch their attention or not, you couldn’t care less: the annoying part was that Tobirama probably have noticed your absence by now; if he was as talented with sensory techniques as Mito told you, he could have already guessed the direction you took, and all you did with your Doton was to give him your exact location. You weren’t sure if he would come after you or not, but whatever he would decide to do, he could have avoided this by not to hiding things from you. Besides, you wanted to make sure you weren’t caught in a genjutsu without having to hurt yourself or to stop your chakra flow when you needed it most.
When the forest went back to its previous silence, you stood up, relieved to confirm you had no company. You adjusted your backpack and looked for the next branch to reach: it was safe to continue your journey through the trees.
You prepared to jump when something sharp, shining at the moonlight, crossed your way with a hiss and buried itself on the trunk of the tree you were were going to climb. You held your breath; you looked closer at it and you identified a kunai. Wrapped around its base, there was a tag marked with a seal.
You cursed when you recognized the Hiraishin’s pattern.
You moved away from it right before he teleported to its side and could do anything to immobilize you. You let the kunai you carried under your sleeve slip to your hand; whatever was going to happen there, you were going to fight and survive to continue your journey: he was not going to take you back to the Village.
When you raised your eyes to him, however, what you saw was confusing: Tobirama was wearing full armor just like you saw him in that portrait, with the blue arm pads and the white fur covering his shoulders as if he was prepared for a mission; on his right hand he carried a bag just like yours. Was he intending to accompany you along the way?
Still, you wanted to hear it from his mouth.
- What are you doing here?!
- Tsc! – he removed the kunai from the wood and hid it in his sleeve – I am the one who should be asking. What are you doing here?
You gasp in your indignation to hear him using your words against you, but you straightened up and hid your blade as well.
- I don’t need to answer this question. My intentions are obvious, and I wouldn’t be here if it wasn’t for you.
Tobirama passed the bag’s strap over his shoulder and crossed his arms, standing his ground. It was clear that if you wanted to go ahead, you would have to pass through him.
- I could say the same – he replied – But I had to come to remind you about a clause in our treaty that you happened to forget after your meeting with my brother. The treaty stated that you should stay in Konoha as your clan’s primary representative until your people arrive. Only then you could make any plans regarding travels outside our Village’s territory. Leaving like this, without warning, will be understood as treason.
- And then I will be left with two choices: to come back with you or to be killed – you crossed your arms too – Yes, I’ve read the clauses and I remember this one very well. But if you came here to try and use it to intimidate me, let me tell you that you’re wasting your time. You know I will not come back until I do what I have to do.
- You do not have to do this when my brother already sent a doctor to take care of your sister. He’s a ninja just like us and is more than used to long and difficult travels. He will reach your compound in half the time a regular ninja would do.
You gasped. Was he really calling you a regular ninja? You ran out of patience, but you decided not to get into this type of discussion: the longer you stayed there, later you would reach your destiny.
- What kind of shinobi just leaves their work for others to do and sit on their house waiting for things to get better, specially when their family is involved? – you shrugged – I know that’s not your style. Neither it is mine.
Tobirama put a hand on his waist as if he was unsatisfied to see that this discussion would take longer than he first expected. You laughed at this internally: it seemed that the man who wasn’t used to have his orders questioned finally found a worthy adversary. He could see you as a brat right now, but you were a determined, honest brat at least.
- You speak as if your sister is completely alone in your family’s house – he argued – Which is not true. Your parents, as well as your other sisters, are there with her, and you have your own doctors working on her case, according to your father’s last letter.
You raised an eyebrow; you tried to ignore your heartbeats that just got faster.
- What are you insinuating?
The Senju didn’t waste time with deliberations, saying to your face what he had in mind:
- I’m afraid you are using this situation as an excuse to run away from the treaty.
This time you couldn’t help let your bitterness out.
- Well, let’s just say that you didn’t give me much reasons to not run away – you noticed the way he tightened his lips and continued before he did anything – But this is not what I’m doing. In my family we don’t break promises, even when we have to face hell to keep them.
- If this is the case, leaving in secret does not speak in your favor, y/n-san – he took one step in your direction, but didn’t seem willing to go any further – How can I be sure you will respect our treaty and come back to Konoha?
- The same way I can be sure you will not hide anything from me again – you replied with seriousness – What do you have to say about that?
Tobirama sighed, but didn’t lose his temper.
- I know that words will not prove my point. Instead, actions will do. This is why I am coming with you.
You swallowed. So, he was really planning to travel with you? This was the solution he found to keep the treaty untouched, then: instead of killing you or forcing you to come back to the Village with him, he offered himself to go with you as a way to prove his honesty and to be sure of yours at the same time.
You wanted to smile at this: again, he managed to caught you with a surprise. But you didn’t want to give him a taste of victory so soon, so you kept a straight face.
- You don’t have to do this, Advisor. You have no obligation to agree with my decision…
But that man’s will was something as firm as the stones in your land. That caught you off guard as no enemy attack ever did.
- Yes, I do. It is the least I can do – and tightening his grip around the bag’s strap before jumping toward the same branch you once stood – Shall we?
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hello! i'm not sure if you take requests or not rn but how about the uchihas when their s/o gets a nightmare?🥺
Sorry for taking so long with the older ones! I currently have tons of requests but I refuse to close my mailbox because I feel it's kinda mean, so be patient, I'll do them all, I promise!❤️🌹
Indra
He has his own nightmares but he doesn't bother you with them, so why do you bother him with yours? -It will be his way of thinking.-
Indra needs a good night's sleep because of his many responsibilities during the day, and cannot afford to be awake at night.
But when he realizes you are struggling, and that you will wake up in tears, he feels guilty.
The truth is that he expects a strength like his in you, but that is not realistic. You cannot endure these situations as he does.
The Ōtsutsuki is not gentle and resists being warm, so the only thing he can think of when you are distressed, besides being with you, is to hold you from behind and hide his face in your body, while he presses you strongly against him, trying to make you feel safe in his embrace.
He can't say anything nice to make you feel good, that's too much for him, so he keeps quiet and hopes that what he's doing is enough for you.
Madara
Another man who also has to get up early, but doesn't mind if you wake him up in the middle of the night with a bad dream.
Madara is the ideal partner for his lover, and is a wonderful companion when you suffer, he is the one to be by your side.
Waking up as a result of your suppressed cries and tremors is heartbreaking since he knows the sensation very well. After his brothers’ death, it took him many years to overcome his own night terrors.
If there is one thing the Uchiha is not afraid or embarrassed about, it’s definitely physical contact, therefore. the first thing he does is holding you in his arms, ensuring that you are awakened in a situation where you feel calm and safe.
To relax you, even more, he will caress your hair intertwining his fingers through your strands.
He will kiss the crown of your head while you sit between his legs and he presses you a little harder, rubbing your arm with his other hand and moving back and forth in a gentle motion as if you were a baby.
Izuna
Does not understand precisely what a horrible nightmare is because Madara made sure his life was fortunate enough to avoid bad events after the death of his brothers.
That's why when you wake up next to him in great fear, crying and out of it, he's more scared than you are as if he were in a very bad dream.
Izuna is truly unrestrained, and his attitude doesn't help at all but makes you feel more anxious, questioning, and trying to find out what's wrong with you at that moment.
He is everywhere, even when you are in that condition yourself, and it is you who recovers from that disaster in the midst of darkness, bringing him down, assuring him that you are well.
After he understands what was happening, and realizes that he was overreacting, he feels guilty and can't stop apologizing.
Probably he will go to the kitchen to prepare you both something hot to drink, in order to relax from that bad event. Once you are relieved again, he will take you to bed, just to sewxc you back to sleep.
Obito
Obi was probably waking up from a nightmare himself by the time you woke up in that situation.
Not surprised by the fact you also have those night terrors that haunt him. In such matters, he feels some sort of advantage, because he knows what to do in order to make you feel better.
Already sitting on the bed and waiting for you to open your eyes. When he felt you sobbing and squeaking on the sheets, he caressed your forehead and whispered sweet things to you.
When you come back to reality, feeling super agitated and short of breath, he is rubbing your back, holding your shoulders and probably just hugging you, reaffirming his presence.
He wishes nothing else but you to calm down and realize that everything is fine and that you are secure in the fact that it was just a bad experience. He also knows that you have to learn how to fight against those things on your own.
Once he notices you are fine, that you are back in your senses, he will ask you what was wrong, what you saw. If you want to talk about it, he will listen, and if you don't, he will understand completely. Being someone who frequently dreams about the death of his loved ones, Obito knows that sometimes you may need to talk about those situations, and sometimes you don't.
Shisui
Shisui's problem is that he doesn't sleep at all, so when you face the situation, he's lying next to you, probably reading, looking at the ceiling or at your form.
He actually avoids sleeping because he knows that after all the things he witnessed in life, after all the friends he lost, after all the battles, and people he had to kill... if he shuts his eyes at night all he is going to see are those memories returning and haunting him.
It is not something new for him to see you fight while asleep. He is always paying attention during this time, he knows that nightmares are a frequent occurrence in your life.
So, he already has a whole routine prepared for you to ease off, and of course, he helps you to face the situation in the most peaceful, and quiet way possible.
He tries to get you awake even before you have a chance to do it by yourself. Shisui doesn't want to see you suffer more than necessary. If he succeeds in this task, he will allow you to take a minute to breathe, turning on the lights will you assimilate the space you are in.
If he can't get you out of that nightmare without using force or his eyes, he will let you emerge from it on your own, however hard it is to witness it. Meanwhile, he prepares a hot bath and waits for you.
#Otsutsuki x reader#Uchiha x reader#otsutsuki indra#madara uchiha#izuna uchiha#obito uchiha#shisui uchiha#otsutsuki indra x reader#uchiha madara x reader#uchiha izuna x reader#obito x reader#shisui x reader#naruto imagines#naruto x reader
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#*sits here and sprinkles more angst on smol!Izuna every time Red looks away*#For Flavor :)
#you DID say you wanted me to write Izuna because I'm good at emotional breakdowns#I was going to say you asked for it and Izuna has to suffer the consequences#but actually Izuna asked for it too#so who am I to refuse
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Hi you have a great understanding of Sasuke's character and awesome blog. Could I ask you for tips on how to write Sasuke right in fanfiction? When I try I never seem to get him right
Hello and thanks Anon. First of all, y’all don’t get offended if I’ll destroy some of your fave tropes in fics...I don’t judge ppl writing what they want in their fics, it’s their own fic so ofc they write what they want and how they want it and if they have fun with gay-uncle-Izuna, CEOItachi and sluttySasuke good for them...but when ppl impose their OOC Sasuke (or Nar or Itachi&co) as the real thing, and boy if they do....well. Nope.
Anyway I replied to similar asks here, here and here, so I’ll copy-paste some parts. My Sasuke tag. More Sasuke meta. More headcanons. More essays tag.
Sasuke is not dominant. He’s not bossy. He’s not assertive. He’s very passive in relationships and he values individual freedom, his own and other people’s. Ppl mistake his determination in pursuing his goals with assertiveness but it’s a totally different thing. He never makes the first move with ppl, unless he has a goal and he needs them, and even when he needs them, like Taka, he never imposes his will on them. He first freed them then he asked their help for his own goal, saying that he would accept if they refused. He never imposed himself on his brother (a child wanting his big brother’s attention is not being dominant, it’s natural) and he never did it on Nar or anyone else.
Sasuke is not selfish, he is the most selfless character in the whole series. He respected people, he didn’t see himself above them. He didn’t see himself as a genius or anything. He worked hard because he had a low self esteem, he was always compared to Itachi and he always lost. He was humble enough to ask others’ help, like asking N*ruto how S*kura was able to climb the tree with chakra in the beginning, or asking Team Taka’s help to find Itachi, asking Kakashi to make him stronger and following Orochimaru for more strength. And during all these, he was thrown in his face parts of the tragic truth about Itachi and his clan and he always had to get back on his feet and fight more. His world crumbled so many times on him and yet not only he reacted but he always was able to help those around him. Not with big words like N*ruto but really, freeing Orochimaru’s prisoners, Taka, and earlier protecting his team from Gaara, protecting N*ruto from Haku, and later proitecting N*ruto from Kaguya and then protecting the whole world from her, protecting Itachi’s ideal, his sacrifice from those who threatened to make it useless. He was ready to become the world’s only enemy to keep them together, following what he thought Itachi had taught him indirectly.
Sasuke is neither possessive nor jealous. He never showed any sign of possessiveness or jealousy towards anyone. He protected Taka and N*ruto. He defended Itachi’s name, unlike too many like to think: when he threatens Danzo to stop talking about Itachi it’s not because he’s jealous but because he doesn’t want that bastard to talk shit about his perfect brother, especially cause that bastard was the reason of his ruin. He was defending his name from an enemy and it was pure and selfless, not possessive at all! Proof of this is when Hashirama praises him instead, Sasuke is happy. He likes people to speak about his brother in a good way! When they were children Itachi always dismissed Sasuke who pouted but never got really angry or jealous at Shisui for example. And at the end of the fight vs Kabuto he aknowledged Itachi’s resolve to leave even tho it broke his heart to lose him again, and he let Itachi go with the saddest face but the utmost respect.
Sasuke is not arrogant. He has a low self-esteem. He was raised in the shadow of his genius brother, he suffered for his father not noticing him, he later developed an inferiority complex towards N*ruto as well because of his quick progress, compared to his own that he perceived as slower and not enough (that’s why he joined Orochimaru). When he brags it’s not because he’s the bragging type (aka N*ruto, Kiba &co) but it’s because he’s either making fun of N*ruto, since they were rivals/friends (not to mention it’s a shounen trope) and, even more so, because he is proud of his achievements. He worked so hard always and when he created a jutsu or smth he says it. Because he has low self esteem but he’s not socially awkward or shy or whatever (see later paragraph). So he is proud of his own results. (which is also a very TE thing, for those who care about mbti stuff).
Sasuke doesn’t value his life much. This is a result of his low self-esteem, which leads to poor sense of self-preservation (to prove that he’s strong, like when he was a genin and he trained so hard,and later to pursue his goals, for which he’d give his body to Orochimaru and his life over and over). Also he is so determined to achieve his goals that he’d do anything for them. He was ready to die on many occasions in canon for this and even later, after the ending, he’s seeing himself as a tool. Also, he never really got over the sense of worthlessness first caused by his father and then by Itachi’s words the night of the massacre. Not in a real life trauma-like thing, but as a way to see himself. this means that all those stereotypical rocking back and forth, cutting, whatever behaviors are not like him, who always got back to his feet and lived, although not for himself but for his goals.
Sasuke is not bitchy or spoiled. If he was he would have a great self esteem, and he clearly showed to have a very low self esteem instead. He never made anything about him actually, as all his goals were about others, his family, his brother, and so on. He was the one who did better teamwork in team7 actually, and he protected his friends and comrades, not to mention he freed Orochimaru’s prisoners and fought for the village and its people. How is this spoiled or bitchy, and btw, bitchy ppl do get offended and he never paid attention to offenses towards him, only towards his brother.
Sasuke is neither the haughty élite type nor the shy/socially anxious/‘emo’ type. He is neither Neji nor H*nata. He is aloof, he is always lost in his own thoughts and he doesn’t care about socializing because he wants to become strong, because he cared more about his family and goals, because he cared more about their opinion than the opinion of classmates. He valued strength since the beginning, being raised the way he was raised, so he valued the praise of strong people and not of the others, unlike those who seek praise from everyone. On the other hand his being aloof doesn’t mean he can’t have normal interactions, and the fact that he doesn’t use honorifics doesn’t mean he has socialization problems. Only that he doesn’t pay attention to these things anymore. He was always pragmatic, and after the massacre he became pragmatic to an extreme level, cutting off all unnecessary things, manners included. It doesn’t mean, though, that he doesn’t respect some people (=those he deems strong. Including Team Taka). He just shows it through actions.
Sasuke is not se/xually aggressive/dominant/whatever. He is too busy with his own goals to have se/xual or romantic thoughts (unlike other characters both male and female, not just Karin but also S*kura, Ino, and ofc N*ruto). I wouldn’t define this being asexual tho, because their universe is not ours and I’m sick&tired of all the real world/Nar universe parallels. He’s passive in relationship and on many occasions he showed indifference to se/xual anything, not disgust. Just, it wasn’t his thought. Because he is on a different wavelength. So even when he told characters to not be so close to him or smth, he didn’t move away, he just told them, which kinda proves my point once more of how passive he is towards ppl and relationships, he just lets them be. On the other hand, aceSas is better than hornydominantSas that is so OOC it hurts, be it with Itachi, Nar, S*kura or whatever other girls/boys.
Most MAIN characters didn’t understand/didn’t try to understand him. The ones who understood him more are unexpectedly not his friends. Not counting Taka ofc.
Sasuke is passive. He is the yin and N*ruto is the yang. In case this isn’t clear. It’s canon. Kishi used a yin/yang parallel for him and N*ruto, so while N*ruto is yang/sun/warm/ positive/active/male principle in nature/masculine, Sasuke is yin/moon/cold/negative/passive/passive/female principle in nature/feminine. Passive doesn’t mean weak. It means receptive, adaptable, flexible, which Sasuke is, since he’s the one who adapted his life and goals to new events, truths and changes, unlike most others who just kept going their own way no matter what (see N*ruto or Itachi). Many see him as assertive because he faces every situation in a very determined manner, taking actions and deciding everything independently. But being an independent thinker has nothing to do with being assertive or passive. I say he’s passive because he actually always reacts to what life (or Itachi) throws at him, every time. His reactions are quick and strategic, so it’s easy to miss this, but still, again, Itachi or N*ruto actively engage the environment and life, and influence other people, not Sasuke. He’s also passive with people, in relatioships. He never seeks anyone unless it’s for practical reasons, he only reacts to them approaching him. And he reacts in a very calm way, quite mild compared to how determined and detached he is, considering that a lot of characters invade his personal space or more, in the whole series. When he chases after Itachi it’s because he’s his younger brother and it’s natural for them, and mostly because Itachi set up his life so that he would focus on him, still it’s Itachi who is assertive, and he reacts in return. He makes a deal with Orochimaru, to obtain strength and give him his body in return. When he forms Team Taka, before asking their help, he first gives them freedom and only then he asks them to join him, making it clear that he won’t force them if they’ll refuse. He gives them something before asking something in return. This is not just a passive thing but something more because he is not selfish, like I said before.
Sasuke is an independent thinker. Unlike other smart thinkers like Itachi or Madara, to whom the story associated him, Sasuke was kept in the dark about many things, so he developed his own view of the world later, but when he did it was original and unique, just like his fighting style and strategy.
Sasuke is private about his thoughts and feelings but he’s also honest about them. Itachi is mysterious and not honest about his feelings, not him. He is aloof, it’s different. Just because he doesn’t trust many people and he’s lost in his own thoughts it doesn’t mean he is a shoujo mysterious character lol.
Sasuke is goal oriented. He does whatever it takes to achieve his goals. He would have given his body as a vessel for Orochimaru, not caring about what would happen to him, as long as he could have his revenge. He would have lived an eternity in solitude so that the world would have lived in peace. And, again, his goals are never about himself.
Sasuke wanted to die after he killed Itachi, but then when he woke up and was told the truth he had another purpose, and so he lived on.
Sasuke admires and respects strength but he’s not power thirsty. He wanted to become strong because he wanted to be worthy of Itachi and his father, than because he had to avenge his clan, then he had to avenge Itachi. It’s because he had low self-esteem and was selfless that he sought power. He wanted to be beside his father and brother, not to surpass them, actually. It’s Itachi who talked about surpassing.
Sasuke is very smart and logical, but he is easily manipulated with the right arguments. Like using Itachi, or appealing to his low self esteem, his feeling of worthlessness, his emotions. Because people who are logical are actually not emotionless. In fact they have a hard time controlling their emotions when they feel strongly, and this can be seen clearly every time Sasuke loses control. He becomes more impulsive than N*ruto who instead gets calmer, because he’s more in touch with his emotions (lol ofc he is, everything is always about his own emotions and feelings). Sasuke puts his feelings and emotions aside to reach his goals, he acts logically and pragmatically, he observes, makes plans, finds the better ways to do things, no matter how hard or dangerous for him they are. He has logical arguments even though they appear ‘crazy’ to other characters, and it’s sad to see how in the end he was belittled by N*ruto, as if his arguments were meaningless, they were not addressed at all, just deemed wrong, not with counterarguments but with illogical emotion based words that just made him feel unstable, as it happens when you have logical arguments and they tell you ‘you’re just depressed, you don’t get things right’.
In the end, he was tamed into submission. He was defeated, put in jail, isolated, guilt tripped and berated because of his ideals and goals, denied the justice he rightfully demanded.
All these can be observed directly. Others, more subtle things about him I wrote here, towards the end of this long post.
#sasuke#I don’t have much motivation to reply to asks tbh but this is important I guess#Anonymous#vivalarevolution: visions#vivalarevolution#vivalarevolution: not crazy but desperate
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