#I think I mischaracterized jamil
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twistedtalking · 1 year ago
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yo. Can I request a "darn, ur brother's hot" to the basketball club. A platonic and a romantic one please. Thanks!
of course! Though I didn't know Najma was a guy. I'm not sure if you want najma, but I'll add it anyways since I love her.
Ace:
Platonic: groosss stoppp. This is weird. Dude, no. *throws up* ew.
Romantic: Prefect, you're taste is so weird. That's like having a crush on a wet sock. U for real? He kinda gross though. Like, he randomly lifts people(me) up, and he hardly explains anything, and he's really rude. Plus he never cleans after himself!
(Prefect: like you?)
No! I'm not. I'm much better than him. Hey, what's that look for?! I am though! I can do sick hoops, unlike that dweeb.
(You shouldn't call your brother a dweeb-)
Prefect, look at this cool shot!
*ball doesn't even get near the hoop*
(prefect: ah)
Don't laugh! I was just distracted! I could totally do it on my 2nd try. Hey! Stop laughing!
Floyd:
Platonic: *judges you, with the most disgusted look in his eyes* gross.
Romantic:
*gives you the cold shoulder that day. Even when you ask him why he's been weird these past 5 hours, he glares and just leaves. 2 minutes later, you're on the floor with a heavy Floyd on top of you*
"SHRIMPYYYY." *he wails* "chooseeee me insteadddd" *he starts shaking you aggresively, as you look a bit confused* "say yes, say yes, say yes. Shrimpy say yes"
*he keeps shaking you until you say yes, which you do since you're starting to get dizzy. Or maybe you're just a simp*
"Yay!" *he hugs you, crushing your bones in the process* "Shrimpy, let's kiss!" *and you blush, shocked cause you didn't realise that's what you agreed too. Or you did, cause you're a simp.*
Jamil:
Platonic: *so surprised, he missed the shot.*
My what? *realises he missed the shot, and starts focusing back at the ball, envisioning himself in an actual game. Well, trying to. He can't keep his mind out of what you said. That line sounds really romantic out of context. Anyways, after practice, he evaluates you. * "Nope. Najma's a pain in the neck, but she doesn't deserve that." He whispers, confirming his disapproval of you. Then, he realised you were just joking around.
"Prefect, that is not funny. And I'll never give you my blessing"
Romantic: *in between of confused, jealous, and slightly disgusted.* "I...see. I don't understand why since, as her brother, I have to deal with her 24/7. To each their own, I guess. Even if she does leave her dirty clothes all around her room, and only bathes 4 times a week. And burns every meal she makes. But we all have our preferences, I suppose. Ah. Kalim is hosting another party this week. Could you help taste-test my cooking?
but I say, do not swear(as in promise) at all...let your answer be "yes" if yes, or "no" if no. Anything more than that is evil.
Matthew 5:37
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alxastrx · 3 months ago
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Twst reasons to overblots & design rating !
Tw : SUBJECTIVE OPINION
Reasons to overblots :
1- Malleus
You mean to tell me that an almost immortal being is getting hate bcs he's loosing the closest thing he had to a friend and a father knowing that that'll happen to everyone he knows and can't take it like a mature adult ? When faes are canonically minors under the age of 200 and he's 178 and clearly struggling with his emotions since he was raised in loneliness ? Lmao. Okay. (I have to keep it short or I'll do a full Malleus analysis and no one wants that).
2 - Vil
I CANNOT put into words how much realism he was made with, and I could FEEL it through his overblot. Overblotting because no matter how HARD you try you'll always be second ? Because people will always prefer the other option because you're SO hard on yourself that you legit seems overworldly to others and it makes them feel intimidated ? Vil better than me I would've overblotted SO MUCH more in his shoes. And him being disgusted with his own actions because HE KNOWS THAT THIS ISN'T HOW HE SHOULD ACHIEVE GREATNESS OH I'M SICK. And the aftermath when Rook voted for the other team ? While I understand that it was logical and I don't blame him for that, it legit hurt me, so can you imagine Vil ? He literally almost fainted, and that's a tame reaction if you ask me. Vil overblot was perfect.
3 - Riddle
No need to elaborate I think. His overblot hit too close to home and I IMMEDIATELY loved him. Also while I love Ace he kinda deserved to be punished for the tart tbh. Like just don't steal what's not yours ? Use your brain ? Riddle punishing him was EXTREMELY reasonable, even more so when you know that he LOVES strawberry tarts, and Ace refuting that AND coming after his position when he could have just APOLOGIZED, is def one of the reason I wasn't fan of him for MONTHS. Not surprised that Riddle got very mad at him (I def would have too).
4 - Leona
Now his reason was very similar to Vil, but the reason I liked it less (doesn't mean that I disliked it) is because he knew he would be second from his birth, that nothing he could ever do would change that while Vil has the possibility to become first, and he's yet unable to do it and I find that even more tragic. Leona was literally doomed from the start and yet he still tried his best for years only for the people he would have been a king to if the successor was based on skills alone to be the one hating him ? Kill me. It caused him depression and ruined his life, so much that he gets held back on purpose to not go home ? Killed me even more. He deserved so much and he got so little hiahdqirongbzkzhzo.
5 - Idia
Listen, I understand the pain of loosing a brother, I lost one of mine, but never in my 20 years of life would I have ever thought of building an IA OF HIM ?? He kinda went crazy with this one. I wished we had gotten his parents' reaction to robot Ortho tbh. Him being unable to move on from Ortho was so good, especially when we know that he blames himself for his death, and getting CORRUPTED by og Ortho is perfect. I don't have a lot more to say, sorry.
6 - Azul - starting from here, there's a huge gap between the classements. The 5 firsts were TIGHT together.
He's an achiever who lost the empire he built, I get it. But like, just build it again. Stop crying and rolling on the floor, and get up and act like a man. Of course, I know he's still a minor too, so I understand why he reacts like that, but Idk. I didn't feel as attached to his overblot as the others, which I'm kinda sad about since I REALLY like him, he's just so enjoyable.
7 - Last and least, the bitch himself, Jamil
Could have prevented the overblot if he learnt what communication was and I'll stand by that. Tried to kill Kalim because he couldn't take his anger on their parents, the yk, lmactual reasons why he felt like this in the first place. And he held Yuu captive too. He has no excuses.
Design :
1 - Riddle
PERFECT. LITERALLY UNMATCHED. The cards, the dress, the makeup, the eye color change, everything was PERFECT !
2 - Vil
I didn't know I needed nun Vil before but I do now wtf. He made me think of Mary so much it's insane I was in shock. The spikes were GOOD.
3 - Jamil
Since this on design alone, this is the only time he'll ever be in one of my top 3. The color scheme was on point and the snake design was VERY fitting.
4 - Azul
It was GOOD. And since it gave us Azul in merform it's 🧚‍♂️🧚‍♂️. The color was fitting once again and he just overall looked good.
5 - Malleus
I'll never say it enough but NEON GREEN IS SUCH A BAD CHOICE FOR DIASOMNIA LORD ! Forest green would fit them all MUCH better, and it's proved once again by his overblot design. The purple is good, but the green is such a thrown off dude... I also didn't particularly like the hair choice but I did like the tail. The rest of the design is just not very special.
6 - Leona (he's fighting with Idia for the last place)
The hair... the hair was not it. (I did like how it kinda matched Cater's (especially when you consider that Cater had called him sweatheart minutes before... my Leokei shipper sense is in action...)). The rest of the design was just meh.
7 - Idia
I'M SORRY BUT THAT WAS JUST HIDEOUS WTF. Idia with short hair is my nightmare dude.
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anonyanonymouse · 1 month ago
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I'm so disappointed I won't be able to immediately tune in on the twst update like usual 😭 I'm pretty sure this is the first time I won't be watching it right after it's up, and not only that, but my early morning obligation preventing me from enjoying the update is going to last FIVE hours 😭😭😭
#I'm going to get spoiled so hard tomorrow :')#hopefully nothing game changing comes with the update#I'm pretty sure there won't be anything crazy until the 2nd half#but there could be some sneak peak at the end of this update that will be further expanded next time and I am in DANGER#of getting majorly spoiled on whatever it is. maybe. if they do something like that lol#hopefully you know what I mean I think I am rambling nonsense but like. you know. how they showed gen vanrouges sprite#at the end of that one update and then next time we had the full war experience#it still sucked a little that I got spoiled on gen vanrouges sprite before getting to the end even if that wasn't the Full War Experience ;#but oh well#aghhhhh okay goodbye#actually pause my goodbye I have more words to ramble#I AM really excited for the savanaclaw update I think that's a nice thing about doing these deep psych dives of each dorm#it is fucking so bad with the pacing BUT if you just ignore the pacing issue then it's really nice how every character gets a chance#to be expanded on a LOT right now#like rook's dream?? absolute banger of a dream. It's so sweet that his deepest desire at heart is just to be a fanboy#and for his oshis to get along. Even if it means not being with Vil :')#he wants everyone to be at their most beautiful (healthy and loving and open-minded in their own unique way)#even if that means he himself ends up excluded from the picture!!!!#and it's so nice that we get that Rook Pack Expansion with these dreams#and I liked Jade's dream even if it was just for extremely silly reasons. I like that we now know his ass is not paying attention#to his loved ones LOL he is the number one floyd and azul mischaracterizer on ao3 I love that we know this now#Jamil and Kalim getting into a scrap fight was so desperately needed for their character arcs and I am so happy we got it#and with this in mind. I think no other dorm needs more character expansions and character arc movement for me to enjoy them more#than the savanaclaw boys. I'm just nooottt that into them as is 😔#but I WANT to like them and I am really hoping this update throws me something awesome that changes my view of them forever#and isn't just another 2 epel dreams with a vil dream at the end#(not that I didn't enjoy vil or epel's dreams and elements from them they just didn't add as much to their characters as I wanted ;;)#ok goodbye for real now bye
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snek-disappearedagain · 1 year ago
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My views of jamikali (from someone who doesnt ship it but also doesn’t judge those who do)
im at the point where I don’t like or ship jamikali because i think its toxic (that is my opinion btw, if you don’t think it is then that’s alr because opinions are not facts ^^) but also I want them to be friends. Like. I want them to work on themselves for a bit and then begin working on their friendship again. At the same time though, I don’t think I can ever see them in a romantic relationship simply because of the trauma inflicted on both ends from both ends. Even if it was unintentional, it’s there.
i accidentally went crazy in the tags so if you want more feel free to read those 😭
#I saw a tik tok talking about this ship and one of the comments said that people who are against the ship mischaracterize the two more#which confused me a bit#because I’ve seen a lot of jamikali shippers portray Kalim as a harmless cinnamon roll sunshine boy when he has much more to his character#but then I was like#tf it doesnt matter if you ship it or not#I see scarabia mischaracterized a lot#and I think it’s because the en translation left out a lot of jamils story#so it was seen more of his family willingly working for kalims#rather than them being literal unpaid servants#i think they should redo the the translation#also mischaracterizing characters although bad happens#like maybe you just got into the fandom and haven’t finished the story#or maybe you have trouble writing certain kinds of characters because you don’t personally understand how they act#and thats okay as long as you try your best#imo mischaracterization is only bad if a. the characters are completely different. B. things from the character’s personality or story are#emoved by choice#(fuck you tag limit)#or C. The person is informed of mischaracterizing someone and proceeds to ignore it#if it’s someone who may be new to writing or the fandom or someone who is maybe just misinformed then I feel like you can just tell them#hey ! I see you may be mischaracterizing this person a bit#let me inform you how and what you can do better#(nicely)#twisted wonderland#twst#jamil viper#disney twisted wonderland#twst wonderland#kalim al asim#opinion#went crazy in the tags whoops
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skyenish · 7 months ago
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(Soulmates can be interperted as both platonic or romantic, so its up to you)
Am I late to this trend? Yes. Did I reuse an old frame? Yes. Also, this post is not an excuse for Kalim hate. It’s just so interesting to me how Kalim never realized how much he hurt Jamil. Its also interesting how the roles can be just as easily switched, with Jamil being the one hurting Kalim. It was difficult to choose who would take which role in this animatic, but I eventually decided on this, since Kalim burns away at Jamil, he keeps him away from what Jamil himself wants. In the end Jamil is just a commodity for Kalim, an accessory. Now of course Kalim doesn’t see Jamil that way, but Jamil does feel that way, and he hates it. Jamil has to be perfect for Kalim, but he can’t be better than him. Kalim burns away at him and uses him as a fuel. Jamil has to fix Kalim’s many mistakes. He can’t fly away, because he’s stuck with Kalim.
I love the Scarabia duo so much, and they have so much to think about and so much depth and complexity. Every day I worry that I misunderstood something or mischaracterize them, which makes me very anxious, but I always at least try to make my observations and animatics as accurate as possible, and when I do get something wrong I like to see it as a learning moment!
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solxamber · 2 months ago
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Rollo anon here. I HAVE A SWORD AND SHIELD ROLLO LOVERS AND ROLLOW HIMSELF GET BEHIND ME!! but istg Rollo hate is sooooooo fucking stupid.. They're all bad. 90% of them have tried to point blank, kill us, enslave us, or whatever. That's the point. They're villains. Out of everyone, to Yuu, Rollo was actually one of the nicest ones. Personally, I think I'd have a faster time forgiving the one guy who didn't have it out for me than everyone else that either accidentally or purposefully nearly ended my ass
SO TRUE ROLLO ANON.
i love all the twst guys but let's be honest: they're all kinda nuts
like rollo's one of the only one who feels sorry for yuu when they tell him they're used it
case in point:
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if we're talking about crimes, let's talk about them:
riddle: abuse of authority - he enforced the strict and unreasonable rules of Heartslabyul to the point of harming others, using magical punishments (such as beheading spells) to maintain control over the dorm.
leona: attempted sabotage and conspiracy - leona used underhanded tactics, including tampering with the magift tournament, to ensure savanaclaw’s victory, going so far as to risk the well-being of the students involved.
azul: exploitation and manipulation - he tricked students into unfair contracts, taking their magical abilities and even their prized possessions in exchange for solutions to their problems. His contracts were highly manipulative and exploitative.
jamil: mind control and attempted overthrow - jamil used his unique magic to enslave and control others, including kalim and the rest of the scarabia dorm, in an attempt to stage a coup and free himself from his servitude.
vil: attempted murder - during his overblot, he intended to use a lethal curse to straigjt up kill neige out of jealousy and his obsession with proving his own superiority.
idia: tampering with forbidden technology - his actions involved manipulating the underworld’s technology and hacking systems, as well as endangering others by summoning a powerful, dangerous force in an attempt to bring ortho back.
malleus: massive property damage and endangerment. malleus, in his overblot state, unleashed powerful magic that endangered the entire school and its inhabitants, freezing time and trapping everyone in a dangerous dream-like state.
and let's not even begin with fellow honest like???
and Rollo is actually pretty like I have no idea what people are talking about but he was the first card I actually spent money to get.
poor guy not only was traumatized, he has to get mischaracterized too now.
(he's so dear to me I'm going insane)
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idialover · 1 year ago
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!!NSFW!!!
My friends and I have a tradition of playing "does this character have sex" whenever we get into a new piece of media, because we always enjoy everything together, and today we spent a few hours discussing TWST charactrs. They found out that I now have a Tumblr blog and told me I should "post our very scientific findings for the interwebs" (Note that we are all between the ages of 16-17, so in the same age group as the characters)
Heartslabyul (general judgement): The virgin one
Riddle: no, and he somehow doesn't even know what sex is. You'd think he'd know with how much he studies about everything you learn in school, so even sex-ed but no, he doesn't know
Ace: gray area, no bitches respectfully, except maybe Deuce, but we couldn't agree on that, he would treat it as "it's just a prank bro, no homo"
Deuce: yeah, sure, I mean he's pretty okay looking, not often tho
Cater: he seems like he'd be a dicord kitten or an insta-thot, he tries but doesn't really succeed, maybe once or twice.
Trey: no, because he actually wears a fedora, unironically. "he's as bland as the flour he uses in his cakes"-my friend#2
Savanaclaw (general judgement): Gahdayumm!!
Leona: YES! absoulutley 100% just look at him, but he'd be one of those lazy tops, is very casual about it, there isn't a lot to say because it's just so obvious that he is 100% a sex haver
Ruggie: Hard to say, he has an Italian souding name so maybe no, he hasn't yet discovered that he can earn quite a lot of money that way, or maybe he has (we couldn't agree on this)
Jack: gay wolf boyfirend fantasy so yes, big buff man go brrrr
Octavinelle (general judgement): ehhhh, fish go brrr
Azul: this was a very hard one to decide but in the end no, no real reason just doesn't seem like he would have it, he's on that alpha buisness grindset
Jade: Yes becazse friend#1 said so (she's a strong Jade stan) and everyone decided to let her have this one, but everybody else generally thinks he is Asexual (friend#1 is also ace)
Floyd: yes, he is bisexual in wicked and scheming ways and everybody is aware of that. Chaos bi, him and Jade are two side of a coin, all or nothing. He flirts by messing with people, mostly Riddle but as I've already said Riddle has no idea what's going on and just thinks Floyd has it out for him
Scarabia (general judgement): This was the hardest one to discuss
Kalim: He is very lovable, but no, for unknown reasons, boy has 0 rizz
Jamil: yeah, ig, normal 17 year old guy, he isn't basic like Trey, but he just doesn't have time because of Kalim
Pomefiore (general judgement): slayyy!
Vil: Yes, and his standards are surprisingly not as high as you'd think, we got very heated about how people often mischaracterize him as a very vain but he just wants people to be themselves and best version of themselves. Good for cardio
Rook: yes, in freaky kinky ways (see Rook alchemy card) he sometimes has touble finding people who are into the same stuff as him
Epel: no, beacause he is an "alpha male" in the worst ways possible
Ignihyde (General judgement): you'd think they be reddit mods, but they actually tumblr sexymen
Idia: yes, he has that disheveled rizz, the more they look like they haven't left the house since 2015 the better. We stan broken men in this household(blog), only on halloween tho that's when his confidence get's a bit better and he becomes and active member of society
Ortho: he is a robot based on a young child! NO!
Diasomnia (General judgement): oooh spooky~~
Malleus: yeah sure
Silver: gray are (they demanded I make that pun, pls forgive me)
Lillia: He is the most slay character, an old vampire/fae obviously yes. He has a lot of experience, best sex haver he's so amazing, Lillia for the win
Sebek: no
Staff (general judgement): a very mixed bag
Crowley: someone somwhere slept with him, he is kinda usless but he gets laid, look at his vacation outfit
Crewel: Definetly, high standards but he is correct, he gets to have high standards, he is the perfect man, not a DILF but also not not one
Trein: yes, loyal to his wife (rip tho), good husband 10/10 would trust him, good man
Vargas: Yeah, he's a typical good looking guy, he has never had a long term relationship but he doesn't want one
Sam: We debated for a long time and decided that yes he does have sex
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sophisticatedaiphos · 3 months ago
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✧ Weekly TWST Reblog Replies! - #1 ✧
idk if i'll make this a consistent thing, mainly because i'm inconsistent- but I do like replying to other people's opinions on my posts, so yeah! expect these every week for the most part, unless there's no reblogs..
credits : @cafekitsune for the dividers
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reply to @usurper-of-heavens - No, you're absolutely not underestimating them. I wholly believe that that the characters in-game mischaracterize Kalim just as much as the fandom does. I will argue that for the characters, it's actually reasonable, since not all of them know him all that well. Even so, the fact that a ton of them don't think about what it means to be an heir to a throne, minus the pampering and luxurious life, is kinda crazy to me..
I'm more so disappointed that the princes don't recognize this, and although Malleus was probably fine his whole life, why does Leona not acknowledge this idea? If I had to guess, it's mainly because some of Leona's trauma stems from his being born second and being outcast from the throne. Maybe seeing Kalim so oblivious and happy makes him forget the idea that Kalim could also go through anything similar to the rejection he faced during childhood.
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reply to @magimerlyn - This is a wonderful statement that I totally agree with, Kalim is mindful enough to continue working with Jamil even after discovering Jamil's feelings about him, opting to try and become less dependent on him while not throwing him to the side, considering that he has the power to get rid of Jamil. Yes, some of his emotional stability relies on Jamil being around, but that's exactly why he's trying to grow more as a person, and be more mindful of the choices he makes involving Jamil. Chances are, Jamil wouldn't magically outgrow his habits of taking care of Kalim even if Kalim did immediately grant his freedom and close off their relationship. Either way, Kalim would probably be granted some reprieve from his grievances if someone as helpful and dedicated as Jamil came along that he could trust trust. Now whether this would affect Kalim and Jamil's relationship?.. we'll leave that to the fanfic writers..
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reply to @flying-mochis - Yeah, Kalim has several moments where he openly shows his innovation in attempts to develop more personally by not relying on Jamil all the time. Book 5 - Chapter 10 is a great example of Jamil's development, because he's willing to continue aiding Kalim despite probably being able to prove himself as better than him. Of course, this is partially because of his ruined reputation, but you can't deny that he isn't being super spiteful despite the fact that his plan to overthrow Kalim didn't work.
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reply to @tinisprout - Exactly, like my poor boy!!! We'll listen!! 😭😭😭 In reality, I don't think Kalim would ever willingly vent if it wasn't in private like that moment, because of his fear of ruining his reputation as the happy go-lucky housewarden who's always oblivious and naive yet kind. It's a standard he needs to uphold, and maybe Kalim is afraid of getting help from others because he might be a burden to them, in the same way he limited Jamil from ever showing his full potential. This is more of a theory, but still.. Our sweet boy doesn't deserve this.. 😭😭
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reply to @twsted-canvas - Yeah, I can't blame you... Twst's put 0 development into Grim's character in regards to caring for others, which is so lame- Give us student Grim who secretly cares for his first year friends and Yuu, but denies it!! In all aspects, if he didn't have a bad personality, he would be a very cute lil kitty. (still don't forgive you for changing the topic while kalim was venting you asshat)
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theleechyskrunkly · 7 months ago
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If Aurinelle were canon, what do you think would be a famous mischaracterization of his backstory, personality, etc.?
Interesting question :0!
For his personality, I think people would label him as a possessive/jealous Tsundere because of his protectiveness of those whom he loves, such as friends and family. I think this would be a huge mischaracterization because I see it as a recurring issue in the Fandom with characters like Malleus, Jamil, etc. (my condolences to the many characters who have suffered this unfortunate experience 😔), and for the Tsundere part, I feel that because of his stoic nature, people assume that he doesn't want to openly accept affection because it would make him look "weak", even though he actually welcomes it with open arms.
For his backstory, I feel like people would call his parents irresponsible or/and neglectful because they would let Aurinelle and the girls out on their own to hunt, plus they'd point out Aurinelle being the one to "raise" the girls instead of the mums, and therefore would call them irresponsible.
Incredibly horrible take because in the Abyss children have to learn to hunt and care for themselves in case their parents suffer a misfortune and they need to cater for themselves, therefore it is customary to have them learn how to hunt early.
Secondly, the reason Aurinelle took care of the girls more often than the mums did was because they were highly attached to him because Aurinelle would insist on caring for them when they were babies so that his mums could have some resting time on their own, so the children grew more attached to him and sought his care more often (the mums were devastated that the babies didn't want to spend time with them anymore 😭)
Tagging: @thehollowwriter @elenauaurs @tixdixl @distant-velleity @cyanide-latte
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v-anrouge · 7 months ago
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I think the only character mischaracterized worse than vil is malleus tbh
I think it's personally between Leona and Jamil but yeah holy fuck the malleus mischaracterizatio..the most famous character and 99% of his fans only love a fake made up version of him pushed by people who don't really see malleus as anything but a possible boyfriend😭
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otakusheep15 · 2 years ago
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My (possibly controversial) Twisted Wonderland Opinions
I see a lot of these on TikTok and such, so I wanted to make my own. Remember that these are all my own personal opinions, and I do not claim that any of these are canon or factually correct. If you don't agree, that's fine, just remember to be respectful.
Just as a fair warning, most of this is me being pissed off at the fandom for how it treats certain characters/players, so if that might offend you, I'd suggest scrolling past this one.
The fandom as a whole really tends to mischaracterize Kalim and I'm pretty sick of it. He's actually a very intelligent character with a deep, tragic backstory. Kalim is not your "small cinnamon roll" or "precious baby," he is a teenage boy with serious mental issues. The only reason he is so kind and bubbly is because he wants people to like him. If people like him, they have less reason to try and kill him. That is why he tries to be so nice. It is for his own personal safety. It's the same reason as to why he tries to salvage his relationship with Jamil so hard. Yes, he does still care about Jamil, but Kalim is fully aware that Jamil is the most trustworthy person in his life, and without him, Kalim could be put in serious danger. Kalim is a good person, but he is also very selfish, and does things so that people will like him more, and I'm tired of the fandom pretending like he's some innocent cinnamon roll when he's much deeper than that.
The way this fandom treats male/non-binary players is honestly so horrible, especially when Yuuka was first introduced. I have seen countless posts of female players being rude and disrespectful towards non-female players simply because they were hoping for a non-female protagonist in the anime and mangas. It's annoying and disrespectful, and I wish we could all stop fighting and just enjoy the game without the negativity. Not every female player is like this, but I see it enough that it needs to be called out.
I need certain members of this fandom to realize that most of these boys are minors. The majority of the main cast are 16-17, and only a few of the students are 18+. It feels like so many people in this fandom forget how young some of these characters are, and it shows in the way said characters are treated. It feels especially weird when I see people in their 20s and up simping after the first years, who are all 16. I don't really mind people who age them up for things like fanfics, but it's still kind of creepy to see.
Rook has been such a creep in this game since he was introduced, and people still treat it like it's a non-issue. He has such a track record of stalking students, being weird or creepy towards them, and making unnecessary comments. There was even a side story where he body shamed Vil because he put on a little extra weight. This man is not a good man, and more people need to realize that his behaviors are not okay and they are not justified, especially when several other characters have mentioned how freaked out they are because of him.
Many of the characters in this game have severe levels of depression, but the fandom still shits on them despite this. Leona and Idia are two good examples of this. People are constantly hating on Leona because he's rude or lazy, but most of his personality shows clear signs of depression. It's canon that he was neglected for pretty much his whole life, and, after a while, he just gave up on trying since no one cared. This is clearly depression, and yet the fandom treats it like this was all his own choice, which is annoying. Same with Idia: he's very clearly depressed and still struggles with Ortho's death, yet the fandom continues to make fun of him and bully him for it, and it pisses me off. What makes it worse is that the same people idolize other characters like Cater, who also shows signs of depression. They love him and can clearly see his signs just fine, yet they choose to ignore it in other characters.
And that's all I have for now. If I think of any more, I'll either add to this one or make a part two, whichever I feel like in the moment. If you were offended by any of this, I apologize (but you're probably someone who needed to hear this anyways). If you disagree with any of this or want to share your own opinions, feel free to (politely) do so in the comments or tags, and I will gladly read them all. Any rude behavior will be deleted and blocked immediately, so don't try that shit with me.
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twstem · 7 months ago
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i saw your post with that anon’s comment about mischaracterization and i’m still fuming over it.
wow a meme is not perfectly accurate to the original source? that’s absolutely bonkers!! i cannot believe someone would make a joke where they exaggerate a character’s funny/unique personality trait. crazy. truly disgusting, despicable, maybe even down-right deplorable tbh.
like… hello?? yeah no shit, it’s not meant to be canon media. you’re making jokes, you’re not making an entire god damn story. besides, they’re not real people, simplifying their personalities to make it fit for humor’s sake doesn’t mean you don’t have media literacy. ironically, the characters themselves are exaggerations of the original medias. hades was not a loser with an addiction to video games (no offense idia <3). epel is based off the fucking poisonous apple snow white ate. so to make stuff like “wouldn’t it be funny if azul said this” “imagine if leona posted this” “i could see jamil thinking this in his head”isn’t misrepresenting. like you said, you’re not critically analyzing them. you’re not even making serious content to begin with. BUT, even if you were, even if someone genuinely has absolutely zero media literacy and misunderstands a character’s action, their motive, their entire personality, i still think that anon comment would be an asshole thing to say… fun fact! you can politely give your opinion and why you think they’re wrong without being a condescending little shit. it’s not that hard to be like “honestly i don’t think rook would do/did this because blah blah” or something, anything, remotely helpful. and even then, people still don’t have to listen to that either. someone could post the dumbest analysis ever made about cater and they’d still have the right to that opinion, regardless if it’s the most outlandish thing anyone has ever said. but i digress 🙈
so many good points!!
it seems like it's a trend lately (especially on tiktok, but here too) to complain about mischaracterization in literal memes. the whole point is that it's humorous content, made to be taken lightly. it doesn't mean that one meme is a summary of the entire character.
can you imagine how depressing most some fandoms would be if every piece of fan content was a reflection of the character's complexities...
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yan-lorkai · 8 months ago
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Who would you say is the most dangerous and hardcore yandere you write for? 🤔
This is actually a really good question.
But Alucard is the most dangerous. I tend to write him being more on the softer side, well, as soft as he can get without bordering the mischaracterization. But If i were to write him as he is? My man wouldn't even have a darling. He likes to think that humans are the only one capable of killing a vampire, the only one worthy to slay a monster, his thoughts are quite philosophical on this matter. So sometimes I like to think how he would train his darling, conditioning them to be the best of the best vampire hunters, teasing them restlessly, don't even caring if they cry, pushing them to their limit without offering any comfort. That's my thoughts on him, anyway
Another one could be Sebastian. This man has been living in my head since I was 14, help---. Anyways, he is a demon, a being who has some many facets and power at his hands. He thrive upon any and all sort of positive attention he receive, always wanting more without being satisfied. He wants his darling, he wants all. And in my head he always putting them into all sorts of situations, even if it make them uncomfortable, because he wants to be their hero or their villain, he doens't care which one
Barbatos is also a very interesting option. He is so soft, so calm, charming his darling slowly till he has them under his fingertips. I love him. Plus he can literally create timelines??? And erase them??? What if he can also mold them like he wants??? Solmare I need answers ✍, can he mold them to suit his tastes??? AND he canonically has a torture chamber, I almost forgot this btw. Like Barb, why do you need this chamber, you too have to answer some questions! Oya, Barb teaching his darling a lesson in his chamber? Now I want to write this
Honorable mentions: Rook bcs he can literally see his prey in real time with his unique magic, his darling wouldn't never know peace, always feeling his invisible eyes on them. Jamil for the same reason, though can he maintain his hypnosis to make them permanent? 🤔🤔
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raggstorice · 1 year ago
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who's your favorite twisted wonderland character, and why?
How do I even choose?
I have different reasons for liking all of my favs
(I will expand on all of these if asked. Please ask. Please. Id analyze any character in twst if asked I love them all)
Ace: I love how blunt he is. He doesn't sugarcoat his feelings as he speaks up for himself, others, and what he thinks is right. He can be an idiot, but I love him nonetheless! Although I feel like canon doesn't do much with his character and he's just used as a way to make other characters have development. (Ex: Riddle in ch.1 deuce in ch.5 the fairy gala remix in his card story) But all in all I think I love him because he's the opposite of me. (I can't speak up for myself...)
Trey: Like Ace, canon doesn't do much with his character and fandom doesn't really do anything with him besides using him as a way for cater angst? (No hate to Cater stans of course) so a lot of his character is my speculation. (He is not a normal guy he is lying to himself.) I love how I can pick apart his character without canon coming in and crushing my dreams. (I project onto him frequently.)
Leona: Oh boy. Here we go. God I love Leona so much. Obviously, he's a depressed bitch and neither canon nor fandom properly recognizes it he also has some serious trauma. (knowing you could be better but, why try? Your goal is impossible anyways.) Also, (as far as I know) he's the only Overblot victim who didn't properly redeem himself. (Ripping up Azul's contracts out of selfish desires is not redemption.) So that's canon mischaracterizing their own character and the fandom, is the fandom. Overall Leona is mischaracterized way too much and I kin him. (That's the reason I love him. I kin him.)
Azul: Azul is literally my baby. I love him because I just wanna give him a hug. The way his ED is implied a few times and then never brought up again is really annoying to me like- if you're gonna give ED rep at least mention in more than his chapter! It's a key part of his character and it's barely there. Oh also he was bullied and I relate to that.
Jamil: The vibes. Gender Envy. The pyromania. The way he hates Kalim even though it's not his fault because he needs someone to be angry at and it's so easy to hate the person directly causing your problems rather than blaming the system behind them. Oh also he's brown and I'm brown so it's like-
Vil: VILLL MY BEAUTIFUL QUEEN. Gender. Envy. The things I could do if I was him- she's so- can you imagine if I was amab? I could be feminine and still not be seen as a girl. Anyways the way he's always second place but doesn't blame the person who's above him but rather blames himself is so sad but so me.
Idia: his gamer talk is so funny sometimes. Oh also I wish I had an older brother like him. Oh also I haven't finished ch.6 but I'm really excited. Oh also technological characters always have a special place in my heart. oh also he's depressed and I find that relatable.
Sebek: I love him. He's so loud and so rude (humans) but I love him he's such a dork. He's trying his best okay? Id really love to see his character when it's not revolving around Malleus though.
Authors Note: tldr: angst, badassery, gender envy, character studys and more not necessarily in that order.
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cloudcountry · 2 years ago
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moray eel rambles part 732564
there were some things i didn't talk about in my last post about morays like teeth differences, hunting team-ups, their predators, etc. i also included a new genus of moray eel (muraena) because they're so pretty!
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the muraena argus is a beautiful eel!!
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and so is the jewel moray eel!!
anyways, its tooth time.
some moray eels have blunt teeth for crustacean eating as opposed to sharper teeth for fish eating. it just depends on what they specialize in! you can usually tell by the differences in their snout length (short snouts for blunt teeth, long snouts for sharper teeth.)
it took me forever to find a picture of the snowflake moray opening its mouth, and while there definitely were pictures of the mouth opened wider, you can see the teeth better on the bottom jaw in this one.
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see the difference between this...
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and this?
this is a pattern that i've noticed over my months of researching morays which i thought was pretty interesting.
morays are mostly ambush hunters, hiding under rocks and lunging at prey. however, there are exceptions, like the giant moray eel which will team up with groupers to hunt. Since moray eels hunt in reefs and groupers hunt in the open water, the prey will be scared by one fish and eaten by the other. (for example, if the moray is hunting in the coral reefs and a fish swims away from the moray, it's likely that the grouper will get it and vise versa.) considering groupers eat pretty much the same things as morays (with a diet consisting of fish, shrimp, crustaceans, and octopus) it's no surprise that they do this.
most moray eels are nocturnal hunters, but the white mouth moray can be seen patrolling coral reefs in the daytime!! this wasn't something i'd seen until i watched a short documentary about morays in hawaii (link here!! the segment on the white mouth moray begins at 6:12 if you're interested C:)
their predators are sharks, barracudas, and sea snakes, which funnily enough is what floyd calls jamil so i don't know what he's implying but here we are! (and people talking about floyd wanting to eat us,,, does floyd think jamil wants to eat him? /j) but uh...when i was doing research on this i did find a video of a sea snake eating a moray whole so if you want to watch that it's here?
some morays can survive in freshwater, but they grow & survive better in brackish or marine conditions. the whole "freshwater" eel thing, according to the research i've done, is a myth and if you're going to keep an eel as a pet you should make sure you have the right tank conditions. the most commonly mischaracterized eel is the indian mud moray eel, or “freshwater” eel. it can survive in freshwater, but it does so much better in brackish conditions.
the larvae of the ribbon eel is transparent.
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look at how tiny their face is!!
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lovelyjasmari · 1 year ago
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Bingo thing for Jamil and Vil?
Blorbo Bingo Here!
So! For Jamil~
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More detailed explanation:
I want to date them but platonically: Jamil is such a cool guy and I just think he'd be fun to hang out with. Love to get cooking or dance pointers from him
Not enough of them: Maybe this is just a personal gripe but I feel like Jamil content has been kind of...lacking after book 4. Does that make sense? I was somewhat hoping to see more of him in Book 5, following the trend up until then that the main focus characters of the previous book would have a big hand in the unfolding plot of the next one. There was a little of that in book 5, but not enough for my liking.
Free space: Jamil is actually my second favorite twst character after Vil. But because the conflict of book 4 is more obvious and not as nuance-heavy, I don't see Jamil subjected to as much mischaracterization as Vil. So I don't have to fight for my life every day defending him from bullshit takes. lol But I still think he's an incredible character, very beautiful and I really want to learn more about him!
Vil's under the cut!
For Vil~
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More detailed explanation:
Why do people hate them: Pretty self-explanatory. Sometimes I wonder if I'm just playing a different version of twst from most of the fandom because how can people see Vil and the things he does and still think he's shallow, petty, racist, classist, or has a mean girl attitude. Like, how is it that so many people have failed at critical thought? It's beyond my understanding and it probably wouldn't bother me so much if Vil wasn't the only twst character being hated on to this degree.
Everyone is wrong about them except for me: LOL, well in my defense, I admit I spent A LOT of time thinking about his character for writing purposes but also in general. But there are some things about Vil that I feel even other fans don't always pick up on. But I'm also aware that some of my thoughts are in the minority so I don't really talk abt them a lot.
Just like me fr: I don't think I'm as harsh but one of the things about that really resonated with me is how similar a lot of our experiences are. It's one of the reasons why I am so defensive of him.
They would hate me but idc: Okay, I can't say for certain if Vil would hate me but there are some things about me he'd definitely take issue with. I'm kind of disorganized and messy, especially when I'm depressed. I'm working on being better about that but Vil would absolutely dig into my ass about it and probably make me cry. 😅
Free space: I just feel like this entire fucking fandom needs to reread book 5 60-66 again (in JP tho cause I think the missing song did take out a lot of context) because there can't possibly be that much lost in translation that so many still think so negatively about Vil. Like, if he isn't your cup of tea, that's one thing. There are some twst characters who definitely aren't mine. But to read into his character so fundamentally wrong like, am I really playing a different game here?
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