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#I still love his character
velvetshirtnumber3 · 11 months
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I have been in the Kinnporsche fandom for a while and over time have seen several things about Pete being a good person (and things to that affect) and I really want to discuss that because I disagree.
Pete is introduced when Porsche walks into their shared room while Pete is weightlifting wearing no pants or underwear. He notices, tries to cover himself and then talks to Porsche a little bit. That is our first impression of him: seemingly harmless, kind of silly, but friendly guy.
Throughout this series, he continues to be a friend to Porsche, and I think that is definitely a part of why he is seen as good. Kinnporsche has a lot of different characters, but the character whose "point of view" we see for I would say a majority of the series, and especially in the beginning, is Porsche. We are introduced to the Theerapanyakul family and their bodyguards with him. We learn the developments through him. And that includes Pete.
What is Porsche's relationship with Pete? They are friends. Pete is nice to him, they work together (sometimes causing some mischief), and are on the same status level in the main family: bodyguard. Porsche, being new to all of this, really appreciates having a friend, especially given that everybody else doesn't necessarily love having him around. He manages to accidentally insult Pol with the nerd comment, he slacks off and falls asleep while he is supposed to be learning about the family, he pantses one of the bodyguards (I think it was Ken?), he kills Elizabeth and Sebastian, is involved in Macau getting a head injury.... the point is Pete is kind of the only one truly supporting him while Porsche adapts to this new environment.
And not just with Porsche but in general Pete is well thought of by everyone. Tankhun cares about him, Kinn trusts him, he is at the very least friendly with Arm and Pol. He does his job very well and he is very loyal to the main family.
Pete has many qualities that we view as positive traits, ones that generally belong to people we consider good people. So we think of him as one. But the thing is, Pete works for the Theerapanyakul family, who are mafia, who are usually not good people. Granted, we don't know exactly how he came to work for them, and it may not have been by choice, but he doesn't seem particularly upset by it.
The one scene near the beginning of the show where Kinn has gone to intimidate a guy who owes money to them involves Porsche feeling conflicted about the man being beaten (because he has experience being on the side that owes money). Pete is also there, and is one of the people beating up the guy. There is no hesitation and he never seems very regretful over this. Granted, the narrative is focusing more on Porsche at the time but still. Porsche sees this encounter in a negative light, meaning that indirectly (because he doesn't show anger towards Pete), he considers Pete's actions reprehensible. Pete also has no hesitation is killing people. He is part of the group with Vegas and Porsche who go to the one warehouse and surprise attack the people there. He does not shy away from the darker sides of the job, which include hurting people. Not to mention he watches Vegas torture someone. This is too much for all of the MAFIA bodyguards, who have definitely seen some dark things in their line of work. But not Pete, who watches with a sort of curiosity. Many people have read this as interest in Vegas and/or in pain and those things are probably true to some degree. But I believe there is also a sense of apathy present in Pete towards the man's suffering.
So to the average person, Pete would probably be considered a bad person, but in realm of the mafia he is one of the better people. Once again, he has many good qualities but they exist alongside his being part of the mafia, instead of in spite of it.
Why do we think of Pete as good? The framing of the characters, because all these characters are involved in the mafia (though Chay gets pulled in and doesn't really purposefully participate in the mafia side). By comparison to many of these people, Pete is an angel.
And especially compared to Vegas, who also plays a large part of Pete's perceived goodness.
To start off, Vegas is genuinely an awful person. He does his best to sabotage Kinn and his relationships, including when he drugs Porsche twice and both times tries to take advantage of him (the first time, whether you think he was only going to leave a few hickeys or he was going to have sex with him, it is still assault) to hurt Kinn. He seduces Tawan, only to shoot he when he is no longer useful (Tawan is not a good person either but that doesn't excuse anything). He actively enjoys torturing people. This is all aside from his normal mafia duties. Everyone is to some degree unnerved by him, which is impressive when you are surrounded by people who do a lot of killing.
And honestly, it feels like we see the absolute worst of Vegas when it comes to torturing Pete, not because it is the worst thing he has ever done, but because we are now fully seeing Vegas's personality. Before, he was pretending, in part to get Porsche to trust him and steal him away from Kinn (again, Porsche's perspective). Now, he is no longer hiding. Now we see Vegas in all his viciousness and cruelty hurting the person we see as good. Everything Vegas does makes us see him as a worse and worse person.
But then we see them start talking, having somewhat normal conversations. Pete, after all Vegas has done to him, still comes to try and comfort him after he realizes that Vegas' father beats him. He tells him about his own father beating him (something we never see him reveal to anyone else) and tries to tell Vegas that he isn't a failure just because his father says he is. And we see positive changes in Vegas because of Pete. Not just changes, but we also see a positive side in Vegas that we don't really see him exhibit with anyone (except maybe Macau).
Having Pete and Vegas having an overlapping story and in such close proximity causes us to compare them, and next to Vegas, and because of how he treats Vegas, Pete is viewed as a great person. The similarities in Vegas and Pete's experiences with their fathers cause us to see the differences in them, because of how they are different people coming from the same upbringing.
Making them each other's love interest just ties them together in a permanent way, giving us a constant reminder that Pete is (feels like) a good person because he will always compared to Vegas, who isn't. And Pete knows that, completely understands what kind of person Vegas is and is not remotely turned off by all the awful things Vegas has done.
I think it is interesting that Porsche is never thought of in the same way as Pete despite the parallels in their stories. Both of them are bodyguards who fall in love with mafia bosses, and act as comedic relief some of the time.
It is especially interesting since Porsche is the one coming into the mafia lifestyle (out of the two of them). He doesn't start there (while Pete's story starts as a mafia bodyguard), he doesn't approve of some of the violence (in the beginning) but in the end becomes a part of it. Is it because it feels like Porsche chose to go along with being in the mafia because his story started from somewhere outside the mafia, and thus cannot be considered good, or because Porsche's bad boy-esque persona just doesn't completely fit with the type of goodness label Pete has been given?
Pete is ultimately just as bad a person as some of the other people in the series, but given the role he plays in the narrative he is able to fly under the radar better.
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The FNAF Mikes talk about their extended family..
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egophiliac · 4 months
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queen of diamonds, upright + reversed 💎
I've redone this like eighty times, I have to just be done with it now and stop staring at all my mistakes oh no 🫠
#art#twisted wonderland#twisted wonderland spoilers#twisted wonderland episode 7 spoilers#twisted wonderland book 7 spoilers#twisted wonderland episode 7 part 8 spoilers#twisted wonderland book 7 part 8 spoilers#coming in well after the fact but that's what happens when the art doesn't cooperate#and i just HAD to draw something for vil's ob (re-ob?) because i loved it so much#legit put my hand over my mouth and went “oh!” when i realized what was happening#i thought it was just going to be an idia thing because. y'know. closing out his character arc from episode 6 and all#so this was like. oh! oh we're going to get ALL the inky boys!!!!!#i wonder if this is why we got a malleus flashback so early...#not to mention everyone's dreams?!#i am braced for 90% of the dreams to be kind of jokey/inconsequential because we have SO many characters to get through#and most of the time will probably be spent on our lads (literally) dropkicking their emotional problems#but i am excited to see everyone regardless!#and also kind of terrified! what on EARTH will floyd be dreaming about. do i want to know.#i do but do i want to.#man. they're probably not going to get back to it but i do wonder what silver's dream was#what was he doing when he was like 'wait a minute' and noped right out of there#lilia: here silver i made dinner :)#silver: oh boy this looks great! ...YOU'RE NOT MY REAL DAD#ouuuagh i'm still deep in the blotsauce guys and i'm loving it#come make snowangels in the ink with me it's great
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petrowriting · 3 months
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the revelation that claudia’s rebirth was such a twisted and horrible moment, with louis dragging her like she was a thing, a stranger who neither of them knew but he kept saying over and over “our daughter, our beautiful little daughter” to lestat, really solidified the way she was never the main character of her own story. she was always an accessory to some or the other of louis’ whims: his guilt, his loneliness, his conflict of being a killer, his rocky relationship with lestat. there was love there, love from both her fathers, but it was never enough. lestat saw her too much as a wretched mirror held up to his own self, and louis was always too steeped in his own feelings to care enough about hers. claudia’s story truly was the greatest tragedy in this tale, treated horribly by every man around her, even her fathers, relentlessly exploited and brutally ignored, always second and never first. the only one who loved her the way she deserved to be loved was madeleine, and the moment she truly had her, her happiness was torn from her. and just before she died, she got to see someone actually choose her in her entirety, not for what she can be but for who she is, and it still wasn’t enough. she still burned alive in the sunlight. the love was there, but it wasn’t enough to save her.
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musubiki · 1 month
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balor 🥰
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i love the DLC man
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rika-mortis · 1 month
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Headcanon: Deep down they both want to be their fairy godparent/godkid again after losing them, but don't believe they deserve each other and feel like they aren't worthy to be their companion anymore
They both need counseling and therapy as a whole package
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soosoosoup · 2 months
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rewatched treasure planet
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umblrspectrum · 2 months
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i got lazy in the second panel
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idolomantises · 4 months
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Rewatching Adventure Time, I can't help but think so much Princess Bubblegum discourse would be non-existent if people actually watched the show to completion instead of randomly hyperfocusing on some of PB's bad deeds.
There's a very bizarre and commonly held belief that Princess Bubblegum did terrible things and got away with it, that nobody held her accountable. When the show makes a point, repeatedly, that Princess Bubblegum is well meaning but deeply flawed, and to some characters, straight up evil.
I see fans point to "The Cooler" a lot as proof that PB is an irredeemable character, and while it is her worst act in the entire show.... I think people forgot that that was the point. Near the end of the episode she stops spying on people in Ooo because it was an invasion of privacy. In another episode she's called out for exploiting some aliens and lets them go. She feels ashamed that her own people are terrified of her. She loses her entire kingdom, and realizes she needs to get her shit together.
I'm pretty critical of shows that are way too lenient on flawed female characters but Princess Bubblegum isn't one of them. She's awesome, and heavily misunderstood.
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elvyn · 1 year
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Idk I just wanted to draw him with long hair
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petricorah · 6 months
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scenes i loved from Real Enough to Get Me Through by @marriedzukka <333 [ids in alt]
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saragrosie · 26 days
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I have been sketching. So much tma. Here's some expansions on my Jon and Martin designs I've been doing.
Another note I forgor to mention is I love how after hearing Simon go "it's enough to make your hair turn white" about Martin's office in s4 many of us collectively agreed his hair turned white because of his association with the Lonely. The shared consciousness is real and we use it to play hot potato with the communal brain cell dedicated to the sillies.
Closeup of apocalypse boyfriends (also to the person who said they love my s5 Jon's fancy white girl updo: I think about that every day)
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poorly-drawn-mdzs · 9 months
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Bonus 8: How met your mother (CSSR design by @qourmet!)
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#poorly drawn mdzs#mdzs#cangse sanren#wei changze#jiang fengmian#It was important to me that WCZ had the hereditary mole. I will die on this hill.#I have been *waiting* for the day to finally arrive when I could finally make this comic. It's been marinating for months.#My mission is to redraw all of qour's character designs one day. They are just *that* good.#CSSR has the vibes of a wandering menace who shows up in towns like a stray cat arriving at a new doorstep for treats. 10/10.#While YZY strongly leads us to believe that JFM was in love with CSSR and that's his whole motivation behind taking wwx in-#-I do think this is (once again) rumour being presented as reality. It's the juicer story to tell after all.#It is still possible that he did love her! But I think that story undercuts the relationship he also had with WCZ.#Yall ever think about how JC and WWX parallel their fathers? How Wei Changze also left the Jiang Leader's side? I do.#Unlike JC though It is far more hilarious and plausible to imagine JFM begging to be CSSR and WCZ's third. You know he would.#My wild headcanon is that JFM and YZY are in a mlm and wlw arranged marriage situation. Deeply unhappy as partners. Better as friends.#they care for each other and I'll admit that there is a beautiful tragedy in them having romantic feelings for each other the whole time.#But I am also here for the gaffs. Let them be unfulfilled homosexuals together.#Meanwhile cssr and wcz are having incredible hetrosexual sex in a bisexual way that WILL leave him pregnant by the end of it.
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nibbelraz · 9 months
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A writer and His number one fan hater
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wyvernity · 6 months
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been thinking about the sinnohtrio lately......plus misc other stuff
also, casual ko-fi drop!! get something in this sketchy style starting at $10 woop woop
#finally decided to do a commission test run u_u#pokemon#trainer lyra#trainer kris#trainer dawn#trainer lucas#rival barry#rival silver#ayalumi#hisuian zorua#luxio#timeskip tag#rkgk#anyway it's sinnoh time !!!#still figuring out their designs and lore but this works for now#god's specialest little guys & their very normal bestfriend who they would kill/die for. up to interpretation who is killing/dying#dawn is the platinum protag who meets giratina and becomes champion#distortion world affected her way more than compared to cynthia and cyrus since she's still a developing kid. but hey cool ghost hair!#4-5 yrs later lucas gets blasted to hisui..lost his memory for the three years he's there and when arceus sends him back he's just like Man#the entire time barry is CHILLING PLAYING HAVING FUN#and forever worried abt his friends ): dawn & lucas are soo nonchalant about what happened to them it's a bit concerning to everyone else#design comments umm the only thing that matters is that they still have their og scarves 👍#and i guesss these are spring/summer outfits. winter dawn gets leggings and big coat ok. she already has too much yin energy#btw i use the cleanse tag as the direct opposition to the spell tag even tho that's probably not a real thing LOL)#oh yea barry wears the tower master ribbon 24/7. tower tycoon in training and won't shut up about it (i love him)#character dynamics i will talk abt that in another post if i feel like it... these days i just want to go replay pla aughh
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