#I know it’s wrong to want that. to want to be objectified or catcalled or whatever else.
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cecilsrandomeverything · 1 month ago
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Who else up wanting to be objectified because then at least you’ll be wanted and chased after. You won’t have to chase after others anymore, you can let it all go and trust that you’ll be carried and not dropped. No one?? Okay….
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celaenaeiln · 1 year ago
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Absolutely agree with your post. My friend once told me something like “it’s interesting to see how there are a lot of narratives within dick grayson’s stories that can be read as metaphors of rejection of someone’s autonomy—which is many times it happens towards/explored in female characters, e.g the robin mantle being ‘ripped away’ from him without his consent, his should have been ‘fate’ as talon, a tool for CoO” and when you add it with his canonical SA and the many times he gets objectified, another thing that media throughout the times write happened to/explored in female characters, it further cements the point of him occupying the (traditional) female character role.
OG post in reference
Thank you!!! Those are all excellent points to bring up!
You guys did a fantastic job of identifying core examples of where Dick is written for the female role. Every time I read him, I'm amazed time and time again how beautifully DC has written him. He's undeniably written as a man but he's unique in the way his characteristics overwhelmingly reflect typical female personality traits and his entire life story is written as if he were a woman. The relationships he has with people, he always subtly ends up in the female role.
Take the scene of him being objectified -
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This is exactly what it's like to be catcalled.
It's humiliating, uncomfortable, and scary. It needs to be addressed.
But here's where I oppose fandom's view on this. Fandom basically blames DC for scenarios like this where Dick is being harassed by other characters for his beauty or suggesting that Dick somehow encourages this behavior, but I think we should restructure our outlook.
Dick being objectified should be considered as one of his trauma's like his SA is. Like the way Jason death affected him, Stephanie's death affected her, or the way Tim's depression did him, Dick's constant sexual objectification should be analyzed as part of canon problem because it's relates to once again to how women feel in these exact situations. Note the way he is uncomfortable - the writers know what they're doing. They know it's wrong and if they're bringing up his reluctance time and time again, then this should be explored not as a fault of DC but as a problem he's forced to face.
DC uses Dick as a soundboard to broadcast the issues women face in a way that wouldn't be as problematic as if they did with other major female characters. Because doing such things to female characters is a little too political for a comic book and a corporate company so they take liberties through Dick instead. Some of the times they've written him seem intentional and other times it seems unintentional, but even with the way the later is written, it's because they're following Dick's standard characterization which was written to be the balance between men and women.
Another major, MAJOR point you bring up is autonomy.
Autonomy is the essence of his character.
Quick definition: autonomy is the right to self-govern. This means you're in control of your own actions, beliefs, and HERE IT IS - Freedom to do what you wish to.
From the moment Dick and Bruce started fighting, the problem with their relationship boiled down to one thing and one thing only. Freedom.
Given my other Bruce and Dick posts, I've mentioned how Bruce felt an increasing need for control over Dick while Dick felt increasingly furious at his freedom being taken away.
Even Azrael when he lost it for a moment. Batman!Dick
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Batman (1940) Issue #709
Another point: For Bruce, all his enemies want him to break. They want him to turn evil but for Dick's, his enemies always want to him to follow them.
Yet the fact that Dick faces all this and continually fights this - he's girlbossing so hard.
That's why I like Dick so much. He breaks the gender roles. Because breaking gender roles isn't just painting your nails pink and saying you respect women. No. It means playing the traditional role of men and women both.
A man's typical role is strength, power, and competitiveness.
A woman's typical role is vulnerability, empathy, and intutition.
But Dick? Dick is one of the strongest fighters in all of DC, he's considered the best leader, and he's so brilliant he always wins his fights. But at the same time, he cries when he's heartbroken. He cares for children that aren't his own and citizens he doesn't know. He anticipates the emotions of his family and friends and loves them for who they are.
That's also a core difference between Bruce's treatment of the batfamily vs Dick's. Where Bruce rages at their disobedience and differences, Dick accepts them and encourages them. Another why Bruce is viewed as the father role of the family while Dick is viewed in the mother context. Evidence of this is pretty clear in Red Robin Issues #23 - 26 with the way Dick treats Tim vs the way Bruce treats him.
DC made Dick pretty on purpose and they wrote him like a woman on purpose while building him up as a man.
I'll iterate agin, he was built to fight male toxic masculinity and we should be looking at him through those lens. He's a complex, deep character that was meant to break gender roles by embodying both male and female characteristics and that's beauty of him.
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artdcnaldson · 2 months ago
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hii daddy
straight up not having a good time today, all my insecure feelings have teamed up and are currently metaphorically beating me w a bat
i’m just in one of those headspaces again where the fact that i’ve received no romantic or sexual attention (except from creeps) in my 23 years of living and that i’m gonna be 24 in some months and i’m going to die a lonely invisible virgin is staring me in the face.. the recurrent thoughts that no one wants me or ever will or that i’ve nothing interesting or attractive about me and it’ll stay that forever are LOUD today 😅
why is it so easy for everyone else … i remember being in uni and guys would be practically glued to my friends - some would act like i didn’t exist some would just see me as some semi acquaintance .. and all i would get at those hs / uni ages where catcalls or creepy dms from men who are like 30/40/50 (this is the only make attention i’ve ever experienced in my life) ,, i even tried getting set up by my friend but i wasn’t attracted to the guy (and in my mind i even wondered if he was what my friend thought was like the best match for me) i couldn’t even talk to him for a day i got the ick so bad everytime he texted me i wanted to puke 😭
and since uni ended my body has changed and i’m trying to fix it but i can’t and i’m at a loss for what to do, i don’t want to go on hinge again, i don’t get noticed by men when i’m out and about ,, i have no idea what i have to do or how i can pull off something that comes so easy for everyone 😔
i don’t want to be a femcel anymore , i’m so tired 😔 and i don’t even want romantic attention i’m at the point where sexual attention is enough,, being objectified is fine even
(sorry for the word vomit, idk who to talk to anymore about this because even my friends who i love and care about will say some cryptic and vague shit like the energy you put out is what you get in return )
i need to find a SOLUTION 💜
🔮 anon
Baby I’m in the SAME BOAT you’re all good my love <3
I’m forcing myself to go on a date w a guy who was a dickhead to me just because I don’t want to be unloveable anymore and I’m like… not physically attracted to him at all but I feel like I need to make myself settle :/
I was the exact same like whenever we went to bars or clubs in college my friends would all get hit on by guys and girls and I would get ignored :/ people tell me it’s because I’m intimidating but I don’t know if that’s true bc I think I’m nice and friendly and approachable :/ so it’s like what do I need to change to be like. Normal. What is wrong with me that isn’t wrong w my friends?
Trying to Heal and be Normal but it feels like trying to date and be like sexy or romantic goes against my instincts and feels wrong.
I want to be a sex object SO BAD at this point like can I please be the type of person people want
Anyways ily sorry baby
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patriciavetinari · 1 year ago
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I saw a post recently making a joke about how straight men will think women want to date them because those women have been kind to them and I know my experience is anecdotal at best, but those stories are always extremely baffling to me because none of this has ever worked out for me when I tried to use those dynamics when I was actively trying to attract men for dating. And idk of it was all because I was fat or weird or what, but as a teen and young adult it made me doubt feminism because patriarchy was clearly ignoring me, not being predatory toward or objectifying me the way I wanted it to for validation.
I see jokes about one kind act or even one kind word provoking courtship from 'the dudes', there was that non-interested woman being almost cornered in a bar somewhere by a guy wanting her number, I see the memed comic strip, the one that's 'aww, you're so sweet' and 'hello, Human resources?!' with a woman being complimented at work, and with my rational thinking I understand that this is a real issue and this is patriarchy and when it's unwanted it's horrible to be on the receiving end of that.
But a blink in my brain since I was about 10 years old hadn't stopped asking 'how can I make this happen to me?' and then it hadn't! Not once! I was kind to boys when they started letting me anywhere near them, I knew some of their interests (viddy games and such), I was helpful to the point of becoming a doormat etc, abd it hadn't worked.
I was planning as a teen to make dating a huge part of my life and my personality, I was expecting to jump at the opportunity to lose my virginity at about 15 or something because that's what popular media at the time implied would be almost normal but a bit soon. Then I realized my fatness is actually going to be a hinder, so I lost weight to the point of anorexia and expected, so to speak, to do a speedrun through a double digit of boyfriends in the ages of 17-22, then land safely in a rich marriage by the age of 25 with the glory of a retired courtesan.
Then, as I was still not getting any attention, even wearing fishnets and miniskirts and heels and hanging out in seedy bars until wee hours, I started running out of ideas of what I was doing wrong and why wasn't the famed universal womens' experiece of being objectified happening to me.
Was I wrong or was feminism wrong? I went into research and went through all of the available dating advice on the interned back in the day. I've tried every technique and trick and secret and behavior and even pheromone perfume. I've tried kindness, sluttiness, attentiveness, homemaking vibes and bringing homemade baked goods to the guy I fancied at work. For the latter the result was that he told me he shared those cupcakes with the girl he actually wanted to fuck.
I tried dating apps and got barely any swipes, I tried seedy bars again and only got catcalled by men so drunk they threw up mid-catcall, I tried going to nightclubs with some weird girls I met somewhere and watched them veing whisked away to secondary location or just to club bathrooms for a quick fuck, and now I've approached 30 years of age with all that (lack?) of experience and not once having had as much as anyone ask for my phone number. I have been so lucky to never have gone through any of those traumatic and offensive experiences.
I also feel completely invisible and unwanted but all I'm told is that I'm so lucky to have avoided any attention and at the same time that I don't try hard enough.
Which is a fascinating mindsent to have I think.
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there is something so wrong with wanting to be catcalled and objectified and i know it's horrible and i shouldn't want it but just once i want to know someone finds me attractive
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bubblegum-and-ciggarettes · 3 years ago
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“I Am Not Starfire” Review
I would like to preface this by saying these are my own opinions and you are allowed to like/dislike this comic:)))
Okay, first off I’m getting straight to the point in that I did not like this graphic novel. The art and colors were nice and some of the concepts were good, but it was poorly executed and on the line of being harmful.
No, I do not mean “sjw” harmful in which the majority of backlash for this graphic novel came from. I don’t care that Mandy(Stars daughter) is a lesbian. And I don’t care that she’s overweight. In fact, I applaud the comic for at least not mentioning anything wrong with being lgbt and barely mentioning the fact that Mandy is overweight.
We need to learn that yes, addressing things like homophobia, racism, body shaming, sexism is an issue, but we need to normalize it in media and speak out about it in person. Even if catcalling, rape, homophobia is depicted as wrong in a comic, it still fuels that hatred from those people instead of normalizing these things. Hence why being called straight and white are “normal” to those hateful people. (Which I don’t agree with obviously.)
And on that note, THAT is why this comic is harmful. Not ONLY is Star slut shamed by her own daughter, who, btw, rags on Star not liking her appearance even though Star literally has not said anything about it and is supportive of her, but she’s also talked about how hot she is by other students/people in a degrading manner.
There’s nothing wrong with being sexy, but this comic both insults Star for being sexy while also tries to show being objectified is wrong bc the people who do so are assholes. You can call a character pretty without having at least one male character shout something gross, which leads back to my whole normalizing argument.
It is harmful for Mandy, the main character we’re supposed to be rooting for, to shame her own mother for dressing how she likes, and then complains her mother doesn’t like how she looks or acts. Which??? Star doesn’t??? She never says anything about Mandys weight, hair, attitude, or grades except for the fight about Mandy walking out of the SAT.
That’s not okay. You can’t have a character wanting to be excepted for who she is while hating on everyone else.
She literally has the “I’m not like other girls” attitude and that is the best way to describe it.
Probably doesn’t help she was made practically as a self insert by a woman who clearly doesn’t know how teenagers work and was cast aside during her high school years.
I mean, seriously? Having two popular kids be mean and talk about leggings and carbs while their most popular friend rolls their eyes? Which 2000 teen movie is this one from? And like, leggings have been in style for a while now. LuLu Lemon leggings? Ever heard of them? Literally every popular so called “basic” girl has them?
What would’ve been cool is to see Mandy grow out of her “I hate girls faze”, which, is a thing most girls go through in middle school/high school until they learn slut shaming isn’t okay. That would’ve been a nice way to reconcile with her mother. The realization that “oh shit I’ve been hating my mother because of what OTHER people think and say about her. I’ve been shaming her in my head for wearing “revealing” clothes because I’m mad at how other people flock to her while I’m an outcast.” Would’ve been way better.
And the whole Blackfire thing was super rushed, and brings more questions. Why didn’t Star just fight her? She clearly can. Star would never let Blackfire hurt anyone, let alone her daughter. And what’s the point of Mandy complaining shes different and won’t live up to expectations of the PEOPLE AROUND HER not her mother, if she does in the end? She didn’t NEED to get powers, even though it was pretty obvious she would. And it would’ve tied up the story nicely if she didn’t. Hell, Star doesn’t even WANT her to be a hero.
Lastly, the love interest. She was sweet, kind, popular, and accepting. Everything Star is. I thought maybe this graphic novel would have a part where Mandy is upset because she feels Star likes her crush as a better daughter than her, but, no. She’s just a sweet girl who’s way too good for Mandy. Their whole conflict was bc she posted a picture of her with the Titans, when it was established she always posts pictures of her face and is seemed to be outgoing. And she did it because of a dare? Like literally nothing was her own fault. And even if it was, she met a bunch of heroes. Who wouldn’t take a picture with them and post it?
Mandy should’ve seen her taking the photo right? So why didn’t she just say “hey please don’t post that right now?”
Also there’s the whole mystery of her father. Which both slightly slut shames Kori because of the possibilities but at the same time heavily implies Dick is her father. Why Dick wouldn’t stay with his own daughter or let her know? Idk.
In conclusion, this comic was very bad. Not because of Mandys appearance and sexual orientation, but because of her character. Her whole thing is “I’m not like other girls”, “it’s not a phase mom”, and “you just don’t understand me.” That’s the best way to sum up her character. Star was so sweet while she was bratty. Her love interest was like a mini Star who she loved even though they have the same personality and everything. Mandy never really learned anything until Star was presumed dead/badly injured by Blackfire. Mandy was rude, slut shamed Star, and was written by someone who doesn’t understand high school and hates the “popular” kids. Lovely art and colors, shitty writing and concepts.
Overall rating: 1/10. I really did not like this comic. Dick was the best part for me which I hope says a lot.
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sapphos-darlings · 2 years ago
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I realized that I have a lot of internalized shame about my SSA. Trying to relate with my guy friends gets alienating because it's clear to me that how we're attracted to women isn't the same. How would I heal this internalized homophobia? A lot of it is typical reasons like being 'different, 'predatory' etc but I also don't have a good model of what a healthy wlw relationship looks like
This might be a cliché, but I so much recommend journaling. Having your own little hidey hole where you can have a good, thorough conversation with yourself about your own thoughts.
For starters, you could try these topics: What is a healthy WLW relationship? - Let yourself daydream; describe your ideal relationship, no matter how unrealistic and corny it might be. - What makes for a good partner? What are your needs from your partner, what do you expect, what do you want, and what will you not tolerate? - What about you, what kind of a partner do you want to be? - In the context of specifically romance with a woman, are there specific things you're concerned about? > Would you worry about these things in someone else's relationship? > Would these things worry you in a heterosexual arrangement? - Summary, if you want, about what a healthy relationship would look like based on these thoughts (and more, if you, for example, want to play around with swapping up genders in your favourite media relationships, for one.) Is WLW attraction predatory? - Go through what "predatory" means to you. - Examine where this feeling is coming from. > What external sources have told you WLW attraction is predatory? - Do you feel the same way about gay men? Why/why not? - Counter the argument, either by exploring why you know it's wrong, or by questioning the parts of it that you feel uncertain about, and talk yourself through them until you reach a conclusion. - Experiment with scenarios; if a woman found you attractive, would you feel objectified? If she told you you're pretty, would you feel threatened or dehumanised? Why, why not? How can you avoid coming across in a way that would be scary for you to encounter if you were the target of it? - How would the previous scenario differ from a situation where a woman is catcalled or propositioned on the street, or pressured by a stranger at the bar?
Difference between you and "The Guys" - Hanging out with men, what kinds of differences have you noticed in your attraction to women in comparison to them? - How does it make you feel to talk about women with men? > Why does it make you feel that way? - What kind of conversation around your attraction would you prefer? - Is "different" inherently a bad thing? Would it be better or worse for you to be attracted to women like men are attracted to women? Why?
Finally, create a healthy environment online for yourself regarding your attraction to women. Since we're on Tumblr, you can make a blog just as a scrapbook project for yourself, where you reblog content like posts and pictures that represent what you love about women and what makes you feel good about being WLW, or little things that you daydream about, or others around you daydream about. Follow blogs that make you feel good, avoid discourse like it's infected with a new strain of COVID, and anonymously be the woman loving woman that you want to see in the world. You can talk about things that you wish you saw more about, or you can say nothing and just observe and collect. It's up to you and what you feel comfortable with. Building a positive image of yourself, and giving yourself a safe space to enjoy and love as you do, are crucial cornerstones in feeling good about yourself as a SSA person. Forget about echo chambers; you deserve a little nest in which you can explore yourself and the world like a newborn kitten, safe in your padded cardboard box under the floorboards, except that it's covered in pictures of pretty women, and every pee marker is replaced by a scribbling on the wall about the nice, good, great things about loving women. Surround yourself not with every brand of living thing in the world with their conflicting perspectives, but only with other cats and kittens (lesbians, bisexual women who talk about loving women), and create a social circle for yourself where you aren’t different anymore.
Shape in your mind a gay woman you can love, and then model yourself after her.
I say this all the time, but there is nothing wrong with you or how you love others. Loving, wanting, needing others is never wrong. You are human, and human beings love others. It is so integral to us as people. Fight against the message that you should be like everybody else, or like the Authority wants you to be. You are good, and your attraction is exciting and beautiful and valid, and you will love and be loved.
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Even if there's plenty of problems with how the MCU writes women that doesn't mean there isn't a lot of criticism made in bad faith. Like, people where complaining about She-Hulk when the only thing out was the Logo. "Why does there have to be a female Hulk." Ask as if she wasn't a character who's been around for over 40 years.
Yes, it is important for women and girls to be their own heroes but there's nothing wrong with female counterparts. There can actually be a lot value in them. Sometimes it's good for children to see themselves in not just a hero, but THE hero. It's great that a black kid can see that they can be Captain America or Spider-Man, the hero everyone knows and adores. Same hold true for girls. That there's Carol Danvers is equal to her male predecessor. It's important that the Bat-Family is a family and that Kathy and Barbara wear the logo.
Anyway, point is that the Distaff Counterpart is simply a character that can be done well or poorly and that "Why girl version of guy character, but not boy version of Lady character" is not a real criticism. Jessica is going to be in n Spider-verse 2 and I'm so excited
There is a lot of criticism done in bad faith, I couldn't agree more with you!
The She-Hulk craze was a dumpster-fire in the worst possible way. I didn't watch the show and I only criticized her speech to Bruce regarding catcalling (mainly because it was a lost opportunity to introduce a new character and instead of talking about her personal experiences she went on a general rant on what all women go through + she invalidated Bruce's struggles), but a lot of the criticism I heard about her was ridiculous. Remember all that madness about her twerking? That was a post-credit scene meant to be fun, nothing more, but the amount of hate I saw made my skin crawl - and a lot of it was utterly misogynistic too.
And of course her obsession with Steve and his sexual experiences didn't help. You can't have a series that is supposedly trying to make a point of saying objectifying someone is wrong and then have the title character do just that and frame it as funny.
I'll be honest though and say that I'm not a big fan of female counterparts of male heroes unless they're done well. I didn't mind Kate because she has her own personality and story and she has a great arc throughout the Hawkeye series, but Captain Carter? She's absolutely terrible and she has no story of her own: her What If ep is a copy&paste of TFA where all of Bucky's scenes are given to her. I think the criticism of "this woman is only a male version" only happens when it's done badly, as we saw in Into the Spiderverse that when done well we're all big fans of the outcome.
With that said, reading people trying to pair all women in Phase Four together as something Marvel is doing out of "representation" and claiming they're all just the "female version" of a male hero gets on my nerves, especially when those fans include Shuri in all this. Shuri was introduced in BP1, she's her own character way before she took the Black Panther suit and put it on. It sounds like that type of criticism is in bad faith because it assumes those women need to earn their place on the screen whereas the men are accepted at face value.
As long as we're getting women written well, who cares if instead of Clint we have Kate? Why is it a problem now that it's a woman when it wasn't a problem earlier when the mantle had been given to a man? Or to claim Valkyrie is replacing Thor because she's the King of New Asgard (that's not how it works, she's not female Thor now that she's ruling). It's the same bullshit I read post-Wakanda Forever: if there are more than 2 or 3 women on screen some people start whining and claiming it's all an agenda. So, do we want more women on screen or not? 🤔
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rinharu-purple · 3 years ago
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On Jealousy
I owe this analysis/answer to an anon ask which I've accidentally posted, though only with the introduction sentence and then couldn't retrieve.🙈
Dear anon, this analysis is dedicated to you.
I HOPE YOU SEE THIS!!! 🙏🏻💫🙏🏻
Thank you @sin-with-quiche for proofreading and @lunabai78 for the spiritual support 💕💕💕
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We have quite a number of moments in our journey with Gavin... Some are funny, some are cute, some are...mmm over the edge
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If you ask me whether Gavin is a jealous man, I would give you two answers:
1) Pre and early relationship... Absolutely!
2) Established relationship... The fitting colloquial term is "territorial".
In order to look at Gavin's attitude towards other males and whether to categorize them as jealous behaviour or not, first we need to describe jealousy .
Jealousy generally refers to the thoughts or feelings of insecurity, fear, and concern over a relative lack of possessions or safety.
The word stems from the French jalousie, formed from jaloux (jealous), and further from Low Latin zelosus (full of zeal), in turn from the Greek word ζήλος (zēlos), sometimes "jealousy", but more often in a positive sense "emulation, ardour, zeal" (with a root connoting "to boil, ferment"; or "yeast").
As you can see, there are different set of emotions that might boil or ferment the reaction of jealousy in one's belly.
My personal take on this is that jealousy arises from two simple things 1) Lack of self-confidence 2) Lack of trust towards one's partner (in terms of romantic jealousy). You don't get jealous when you know you're one hell-of-a-mate and are with the right person. Which is why as we will see in a minute Gavin fits the bill at the beginning but afterwards his jealousy isn't actually jealousy at all!
So which sets of emotions lead to his jealous behaviour and in which conjuncture?
We know that Gavin is completely attuned to MC. This also applies for his reaction towards the presence of other guys around her. So the type of jealousy he displays is attuned to MCs type of reaction to the source of his jealousy. He observes MCs aura and attitude carefully and then reacts in an either desirous, protective, territorial or downright pouty manner.
If he sees the person is overstepping their boundaries like TNTs Tyson or the guys catcalling her during Romantic Date, he gets protective. If he sees someone from his inner cycle being only the slightest overfamiliar with MC as in his phone call with Eli, he gets territorial and draws boundaries. If he gets ditched by MC and walks on her having lunch with another guy all the while she's being touched by him and she's not showing any protest, he pouts in the corner and stabs MC with his words "Too much of anything can get boring after a while" (love this moment and how Joe delivers this line with a strong tonation on the word - boooring-)
If he sees the person is actually drawing MCs attention, well... This is where we can look more into. Because this is actually a stereotypical example of making one jealous. Seeing your love interest with another person in an over-friendly manner.
In Trio Date, he worries that MC might have a crush on Kiro and a close relationship with him. Which is understandably an alarming situation for him, because he isn't that close to her himself and Kiro is... well... Kiro. Pretty much everyone's into him 🌟. But Gavin doesn't show any aggression or envy towards Kiro. On the contrary, he praises him for his charm and even says that he can see what people mean by that as in confessing to being charmed by Kiro himself. I really praise how elegant Gavin acts in the face of this situation 👑 Needless to say, it's a Gavin date, meaning the canon couple in this scenario is Gavin x MC (On a side note pretty bold and disrespectful of PG to put another LI in the supporting male role in a date for another tbh) And also RIP Chandler, the poor guy didn't do anything wrong ^_^
At this point I need to let one thing out of my chest though. I can't say that I appreciate him telling MC when and where to wear revealing clothes <spoiler alert> only for him. Even though we don't actually see him seriously forbidding her to wear them I think it would be better to leave her be the judge of it. But considering the fact that she gets catcalled even at his presence I can kinda see why Gavin gets protective here. On a side note, his girlfriend isn't better on this matter either. MC covers Gavin's body at the beach during 2021 summer event in CN server so that other girls don't drool over him 🤣 These two have some homework to do in that department I tell you that 😅
In the more mature phases of their relationship, we no longer see Gavin feeling himself threatened by the presence of another male. AT ALL! All Gavin jealousy after this point is only because someone is overstepping their boundaries and making "his girl" uncomfortable.
Gavin might be the one acting jealous the most frequently among the LIs, but he never ever gets possessive over her, limits her freedom or makes unconfirmed self proclaims on behalf of her. Being possessive over someone objectifies them and the moment you objectify a person, you no longer need to be in a relationship with them tbh. Leaving your partner room to breathe and respecting their personal space is important and Gavin does this the best alongside with Kiro. We also never see Kiro getting possessive, limiting or doing anything of that nature with MC.
Further in their relationship Gavin still acts jealous, but in an extremely cute, pure and harmless way. Be it against prankster ghosts, animals she's met in the middle of the desert, a wild child, service dogs, birds and co. Basically anyone and anything that diverts her attention from him for more than a nanosecond can be perceived as a threat but an adult male 😂At his core, Gav-babe wants MC all for himself but his jealousy is actually only adorkable.
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In the main story, however, there is a certain LI which becomes the magnet for Gavin's firsthand jealousy and even kinda provokes this. And this is actually what I am dying to write about in this post😈. It only happens at the beginning of the story, but I love it so much and therefore it must be in this post.
Gavin shows signs of jealousy towards one particular LI at various occasions and that is...
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Gavin shows obvious signs of jealousy towards our genius scientist and that is completely understandable! Lucien is the one who makes his advances first and is the most straightforward one throughout the main story. Plus, he lives right next to MC and, let's be honest here, is the only one who toys with MC's poor hormones the most. Just to give one example:
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Gavin and MC don't become quite a couple before CH12 and S1 Gavin has some issues with self-worth and confidence (towards MC). When he meets MC again after 6 years, he is perplexed and is fairly clueless as to how to approach her romantically. Lest Gavin making the wrong moves, he acts weirdly around MC which further confuses her. Gav-babe is really weird at the beginning of the story 😅
The first time we see Gavin getting jealous about Lucien is in CH2, when he and MC spend a prolonged period of time for the first time as they investigate the time warping incident. Our birdcop is hopelessly in love with MC so when he sees her become so red on the phone with another person, he gets worked up.
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Fun trivia, Joe's reaction to this moment can be found here
The second instance is when MC spends two nights in a row with Lucien in CH5 and then falls asleep in her office.
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It is crucial to remember at this point that up to CH5, MC seems to be most romantically involved with Lucien and spends most of her time with him. LuLu mercilessly teasing her and flirting with her doesn't help much in that sense either because he is actively making advances on her. Thus announcing his candidacy for "Mr. Love". So when Gavin catches MC spending nights following Lucien, having phone calls with him, living right next door to him, working closely with him and blushes because of him, it's fairly understandable that our birdcop gets fairly jealous because at that point in the story Lucien seems to have a better shot at love with her than he does.
Btw, MC flatlines on his question as to who is the resource of her flustering this time around and doesn't explain herself ;)
Interestingly though, in the third instance, where Gavin sees MC and Lucien, he isn't jealous at all! In the famous "Rude Awakening" moment, the vibes we get at first is as if Gavin walks in to MC and Lucien. But actually our protective boyfriend is there to save MCs life. What's more, he doesn't give credit to Lucien's provocations, such as when he calls Gavin "dangerous" or pulls MC behind him, stays extremely close to her and plays the "protective boyfriend" in front of him. On Gavin's defense, the one actually saves MCs life and protects her is Gavin here as he deflects the bullet shot at her.¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Furthermore, he asks Lucien to take MC home, albeit not before telling her that he will be contacting her later, signaling to Lucien that he shouldn't stick along for long. A highly subtle way of "marking his territory", much like a wolf would. God I love this scene both in the main story and in the anime.
It is necessary to mention at this point that the chapter following this scene revolves around Gavin and MC clearing all kinds of misunderstandings between them and MC trying to bind with him. Hence laying the first stones in the temple of their relationship. After that point we no longer see Gavin showing any kind of jealousy towards anyone. So mark CH7 people ;)
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You know what I would love to see? Gavin getting jealous over Shaw. I wonder whether he even knows that MC spends time with him 🤔 Too bad that PG has left the idea "brother conflict".
If you would like to read another perspective on this, Cheri has posted her analysis here
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ahappydnp · 3 years ago
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Hey sorry if this is too heavy of a question I totally get if you’re not in the headspace to answer or just don’t want to lol I just feel like you’d be be able to relate from things you’ve said in the past
Soo I was wondering, have you ever felt guilt for being attracted to women? And not like in a ‘gay is bad’ way but because you find them like really attractive and hot or whatever and you worry you’re objectifying them like some creepy guy? Like I’ll see a girl with nice boobs or butt or anythinggg i find sexually attractive about them and after I feel guilty like ‘oh my god you’re no worse than those creepy men who objectify women’ and I don’t know if I actually am or it’s just in my head?? But then when I’m attracted to guys (I’m bi but closeted) i don’t feel that way I’m just like ‘hot guy nice’ and don’t think any more of it
So yeah is this something other wlw go through or am I just especially messed up with dealing with my sexuality lol (thanks so much if you take the time to answer but if not it’s totally cool!)
You're totally fine, anon! Unfortunately, this is actually a very real very common issue many queer people struggle with. It can especially be hard for non men, who know the feeling of being publicly or verbally sexualized and feel like they've "become that person" as well. You're not. I promise you you're not creepy or doing something wrong by experiencing attraction.
First of all, experiencing arousal or attraction is not inherently wrong. It's natural and it's fine and it's not dirty! The part that's important is how you act on it. You're not like the creepy guys objectifying women. Attraction does NOT equal objectifying. You're not catcalling or talking about them in a dehumanizing way (which is what objectifying IS- turning a human into an object in your head and removing them as a person).
The fact that you even CARE about not wanting to objectify is enough proof that you're not. You probably know exactly what objectification feels like and that's why you're hyperaware of it, because you know what it feels like on the other side and that discomfort.
So much of that stems from internalized homophobia, particularly the "predatory lesbian" stereotype (there's been a lot of really interesting papers about it if you google it). That feeling like you're 'preying' on innocent straight people. It's fucking awful. It's scary to feel like your presence or thoughts cause discomfort. Feeling like a villain for being around women who might label you a predator (or think you're flirting/hitting on them) when you're just existing is terrifying. Wlws are not bad or creepy for being sexually attracted to women. I still struggle with it to this day and the shit we've been fed takes years to undo and unlearn. But you're not bad <3
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deviljho · 2 years ago
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i have so many thoughts about like, the weird relationship between fans and performers esp with all the stuff going on this year with it like to name a few off the top of my head: the backlash mitski experienced when she asked fans to stop recording her entire concert on their phones & engage more genuinely with the show, kim lip walking offstage bc fans wouldn’t be quiet during her turn to speak, lorde shushing the crowd when they tried to sing along to a song (tho tbh i think she’s kinda wrong for this one LOL), fiona apple taking her music off tiktok, sunmi telling a guy fan to shut up and stop catcalling/interrupting her during her show…multiple performers getting called mommy/daddy/having ppl barking at them (even after performing like, songs specifically about being objectified or sexually harassed)
…likeeeee idk where i’m going with this i don’t think i can unpack it all in a tumblr post or even want to bc obviously there’s layers and levels to each of these incidents and some differences too re: how much access fans have to these artists (and what the nature of that access is) but i just think it’s interesting ig from a uhhh sociocultural perspective to think about why this is happening and very upsetting/sad too. and i know i only mentioned like majority women artists but i’m sure it happens with men too. tho there’s nuances to the gender dynamics here as well ofc
like just the discussion of the ownership ppl have over their art once it’s Out There and what it means to share that with the general public is something i think about a lot all the time over the years, for better and for worse…shoulda majored in feminist studies or whatever so i could research it for real but oh well 🙄
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qitwrites · 3 years ago
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It isn’t unusual to see Uraraka in the gym. It isn’t unusual at all to see her going at it against a punching bag, striking it with ferocious jabs and strong kicks, well-paced and well-timed.  It isn’t unusual in the least to see her wearing sweatpants and a sports bra, hair pulled out of her face as she sweats it out alongside her classmates.
It is unusual to see her face scrunched up like she’s on the verge of tears though. It makes something in Midoriya’s gut clench unpleasantly.
‘Hi,’ Midoriya says, wiping away the sweat on his neck with the bottom of his tee shirt. Uraraka simply nods, but her eyes don’t leave the bag. She does a one-two combo move, the bag making a satisfying thump with every hit.
‘Are you ok?’ he ventures, crossing his hands over his chest. He keeps his eyes trained on her face, and his gut twists when he sees unshed tears brimming in her big, round eyes. Uraraka wipes at her face with the inside of her elbow before she goes back to the bag.
‘I’m fine,’ she bites out between clenched teeth, and Midoriya knows she’s not okay. He decides not to push it too much though, instead moving to stand behind the bag and hold it steady for her as she pummels it. He can feel the force of her punches through the material, and her face continues to twist and contort till there are tears running down her face.
‘Uraraka,’ Midoriya finally murmurs, voice low, ‘are you hurt?’
‘I’m fine.’
‘You’re crying, you’re not fine-‘
‘I said I’m fine! Leave me alone Deku, just- I’m fine.’
The last time Midoriya had a gut feeling like this, he’d left Iida alone after his brother got hurt and nearly lost him. The last time he’d let his guard down, Bakugou had been kidnapped from right under their noses. And the last time he hadn’t fought to understand, he hadn’t persisted in his efforts, he’d let go of Eri and allowed her to be in harm’s way, an act he would never, ever forgive himself for. So now, Midoriya has a bit of an issue letting go.
‘We don’t have to talk about it right now,’ Midoriya grunts as Uraraka kicks the bag hard enough to jostle him. ‘But you have to talk to someone. Please don’t bottle it in, you know it’ll only get worse.’
Uraraka stops punching then, chest heaving as her eyes find Midoriya’s, and they’re filled with a plethora of emotions- pain, anger, embarrassment, rage, and so much sadness. They look defeated.
‘I am fine!’ Uraraka growls, thumping both hands against the bag. ‘I am fine because I have no choice but to be fine! Because the moment I stop being fine, I will lose. So, all I can do is punch a bag, shed a tear or two in private, and move on with my life because this is a battle I cant lose.’
‘You don’t have to fight anything alone Uraraka, you have all of us.’ Midoriya gestures at the gym, littered with some of their classmates. It’s not packed to capacity, but there are people around, their good friends.
‘I do have to fight this alone though. And I certainly can’t fight this with you.’
‘I don’t understand what you’re talking about. Please talk to me Uraraka, tell me more.’
‘There’s no point Deku. It won’t change a damn thing.’
‘But I want to understand anyway! Just humor me.’
Uraraka barks out a laugh before staggering away from the bag, her body angled towards Midoriya.
‘Fine, you wanna know so bad? Ok, let’s talk.’
She starts unwrapping her left hand. ‘Did you know that for every article or piece of news that goes up about my heroic deeds or my fighting, there are 8 others that talk about my measurements, which colors suit my skin tone, why I am in desperate need of losing weight, or something along those lines?’
Her right hand continues to methodically unwrap the tape with trembling fingers. ‘Every news channel I go to, no matter where, I have to read about how a female heroes’ love handles were showing while she was taking down a villain. Or how someone’s hair wasn’t perfect while they put their life on the line to do their job. And do it damn well.’
She finally finishes unwrapping one hand. ‘And did you know, that for every article written about your heroics, or Bakugou’s, or Iida’s, of which there are so many more than our female classmates’ by the way, there’s maybe 3 articles about things that don’t concern heroics? And they’re always respectful, not too invasive, somewhat curious.’
Uraraka moves to unwrap her other hand, but her fingers are shaking so bad, she can’t even find the end. Midoriya finally stumbles forward and pulls her right hand into his own, unwrapping it gently. He gives it a firm squeeze, urging her to go on.
‘I know the advice- stop listening to the tabloids, let it roll off your back, it’s not important, it’s not relevant. And I get that Midoriya, I do. I will continue to do my job. I will continue working towards being a hero. I will always do my best to save lives and defeat villains and keep everyone safe. I will.’
Her voice cracks, ‘But I also get tired, you know? I get tired of seeing people talk about me like I’m not even a person. I am so tired of seeing the female heroes objectified all the time. For them to be glorified for their looks alone and not their skills. We’re saving lives too, we’re not here to look pretty. We’re here to kick ass.’
Midoriya finishes unwrapping her hand but doesn’t let go, holding it lightly between his own. Uraraka stares at their hands and continues, ‘I want to be taken seriously. I work just as hard as you guys, and I want to be awarded that same respect but I’m not. And I don’t get to say Hey I’m tired today, if someone is disrespectful or puts me down because I’m a female hero I’ll let it slide because every time I do that, we take 3 steps back. I have to fight this fight all day, every day.’
Uraraka pulls her hand away and sinks down, resting her head on her bent knees. She slowly turns to look to the side, and she has a faraway look in her eyes.
‘I have been stared at since I was maybe 10 years old. And it’s not just me, it’s all girls. All women. We’re just stared at. Doesn’t matter what we wear, what we’re doing, where we’re going. I’m stared at. I could be in uniform, could be dressed to go to the mall or enjoy a day at the beach- I will be stared at. People, and men especially, look at me like I’m a piece of meat. I can feel it on the back of my neck, and yes, I can protect myself, but that fact that I even need to, why is that ok?’
Uraraka finally pauses, inhales deeply and a few more tears slip out.
‘I am tired, Deku. I am so tired. And I will continue to fight this battle, I will continue to stand up for Momo and Tsuyu and Mina and Hagakure and Jirou. For all the female heroes. For all women, everywhere. But I am tired of having to fight that battle in the first place. I’m just a little tired today. That’s all.’
Uraraka exhales deeply, and her entire body deflates. ‘I want to be able to walk out on the streets without my guard up because I’m a woman. I want to walk around wearing what I want and not have to worry about catcalls and judgement. I want to exist without the need to be perfect because when I’m not, it feels like I’m letting so many people down. I just want the freedom to exist as a human being, the same freedom so many take for granted. I want to talk about it, I want all of us to fight for it, I want to achieve it so someday, a little 10 year old girl can walk to her convenience store and not worry about the old geysers around the corner leering at her.’
Midoriya doesn’t move to interrupt her, not once. He listens, he absorbs, he aches. Because he knows- everything she says is true, and he can’t relate. He doesn’t face the same treatment. Granted, he faces his fair share of criticism, but his hero persona Deku does. And it’s usually for the way he fights, how reckless he can be, or sometimes how silly his bunny ears look. But never about his body. Never about his personal life. Never about his measurements, at least not in a sexual way.
And Midoriya has never been stared at, especially in a way that makes him feel small or hunted.
When Uraraka makes no move to continue, Midoriya sits on the floor, legs crossed and hands resting in his lap.
‘What can I do? How can I help, if at all?’
Uraraka mirrors his position, and for the first time since he spoke to her that day, there’s a ghost of a smile on her face. It’s a genuine one too, soft and barely there, but honest.
‘You’re a good guy,’ she says, smiling a bit wider. ‘You’re kind, you’ve never made me feel small or objectified or anything. And you don’t speak that way about other people. You speak in terms of strength, and you acknowledge everyone, regardless of gender or other parameters. You’re doing good.’
Uraraka looks to the side, and Midoriya follows her line-of-sight to see Bakugou doing crunches while Kirishima shouts encouragements at him.
‘In an ideal world, people would think more like Bakugou did during the sports festival.’ When Uraraka sees the expression on Midoriya’s face, she bursts out laughing.
‘I’m not saying we need more Kacchans around Deku, don’t worry,’ she reassures him, still giggling. ‘I’m saying he didn’t hold back; despite the backlash he was receiving. He did his best against me because he knew I was strong, and he took me seriously. We need more of that, of being taken seriously, of being on the same ground as all of you. That’s what we crave- being acknowledged as equals.’
‘Uraraka, what’s wrong?’ Iida says from somewhere behind Midoriya. Uraraka quickly rubs at her eyes, trying to get rid of the tear stains.
‘Nothing, nothing,’ she murmurs, shooting Midoriya a look. ‘We were just talking about some stuff.’
Tsuyu sits down beside Uraraka and pulls her into her side. ‘You need anything?’
‘This is good,’ Uraraka says, leaning her weight into the frog hero. Tsuyu tightens her grip protectively, and the girls speak to one another in low voices.
‘She’s fine,’ Midoriya says to Iida as he stands up. ‘We were just talking about how differently we experience the world as male and female heroes.’
‘Ah,’ Iida says, voice subdued. He pushes his glasses up his nose. ‘I’ve read the statistics, it’s honestly disheartening. The number of female heroes ostracized from the hero community for absurd reasons, the number of hate crimes committed against them, it’s outrageous.’
Midoriya doesn’t even realize he’s gone into one of his mumbling rants as he says, ‘Is there anything we can do, like right now? How can we make a difference in the position that we’re in? We are still quite a while away from being pros. We do have licenses though, and we are known in the community. We also have students from affluent families that could help make a difference. But tackling the media is always a delicate matter and-‘
‘Start by taking steps yourselves,’ Jirou says, placing a hand on Midoriya’s shoulder. ‘Of course, all of what I’m about to say doesn’t really apply to you since you do it anyway but speak of us the way you speak about your male counterparts. Treat us with the same respect. Talk about us like we’re human beings with feelings. Just- it’s so systemic, all our biases and all our assumptions and how we treat and view women in society as a whole, so change will take time. We just have to take it one step at a time.’
Jirou takes her hand off Midoriya’s shoulder and shrugs, ‘We don’t want to be coddled, we don’t want special treatment, we don’t want any advantage or upper ground. We just want to level the playing field.’
‘In the meantime, when one of us is tired of fighting the system,’ Tsuyu says, getting Uraraka to her feet, ‘ice-cream and some queer-eye can’t hurt anyone, kero.’
That gets a smile out of Uraraka and Midoriya. The group slowly makes their way out the gym, nudging each other and cracking silly jokes. Jirou confirms that there’s 2 tubs of ice cream in the freezer, and Iida offers to make them popcorn even though he isn’t personally that fond of it. 
There’s an unpleasant clench in Midoriya’s gut, but that’s ok- identifying the problem is the very first step towards fixing it.
And when he looks around him, he thinks they have a pretty good shot at getting it right.
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wellthatwasaletdown · 3 years ago
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"but today he's the worst he could've ever been"
this describes harry perfectly.
the reason why #freeharry is trending on twitter, why so many fans write paragraphs of theories on why he's a closeted gay man or a transgender person or why they evilize his current management so much is because they know that the many things he says and the many things he does are wrong in so many ways. they refuse to admit his ignorance and lack of education (ex: "I think sexuality is fun" "the way you identify doesn't matter" "now it's time to be kind" [when got asked abt BLM in 2020 as if he didn't step on BLM flags and ignored black fans for years] his "women are smarter and men are trash" feminism and surrounding himself with abusers and misogynists and etc...) when he himself admitted not talking abt politics bc he wasn't educated enough (sugarcoating the fact that he doesn't care bc a grown privileged adult like him could get the education he talks abt any time he wants) BECAUSE deep down everybody knows he's a rich privileged white man who got so much money, fame and glory that a lot of people can not handle at a very young age like his. everybody knows how disrespectful he's been towards women, the way he objectifies them. (ex: him admitting catcalling a woman in the street as a joke in 2012, his lyrics, his "womanizer" image)
and we all know how easily queer men can get away with misogyny and queer white men with misogyny AND racism. so his stans started theories about him being gay to excuse his misogyny, (and bc they can't stand the thought of him being with other women to the point they'd rather see him being with a man) when that wasn't enough for the other ignorant things he does they started to make theories abt him getting controlled by his manager, the music industry etc. BECAUSE THERE IS NO OTHER EXCUSE FOR HIS ACTIONS OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT IT'S NOT HIS BUT SOMEONE ELSE'S.
so today harry styles is a man no one dares to criticize (like they said) because there's already an excuse and millions of stans ready to deny those said criticisms. he made himself untouchable with the way he doesn't use social media or care abt his relationship with fans or lift a single finger to deny the rumors abt him being a zionist, a queerbaiter or explain why he's friends with and has dated so many awful people because he doesn't have to.
every good thing he has ever done is a proof of him being flawless and every bad thing he has ever done is a proof of him being a victim.
his fans will worship him blindly until they become ready to accept that he's flawed and that people are allowed to dislike him for many reasons.
He said in the Zane Lowe interview that he doesn't use social media because he wants to be a unicorn--like those celebrities who are legendary, who go away and people miss them.
There are two problems with his logic/excuse:
1. Most of those celebrities are dead and social media didn't exist when they were alive.
2. Those celebrities who are still alive are using social media.
He's not using social media because he doesn't want to interact with his fans anymore than he has to and this is the convenient excuse that they have come up with to counter the criticism they've seen about him only using it to sell stuff.
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avatarofsimp · 4 years ago
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The brothers when someone catcalls you
Lucifer
"Hey, baby, how are you?"
Doesn't want to make you uncomfortable by causing a scene so he growls at whoever did it and keeps walking
Places his hand on your back as you walk to make you feel safer
"Do you want me to do anything?"
Puts all of the control in your hands but makes it abundantly clear he would do anything you needed to feel safer
Is frustrated that there isn't anything he can really do to change what happened
"I will have to talk to Diavlo about changing the laws about things like this."
Offers to spend the rest of the day with you so you don't have to be alone after it happens
Mammon
"Sup, sexy?"
Is completely appalled that anyone would do that to his human
If looks could kill whoever did it would be long gone
Pulls you close to his side and whispers comforting things to you
"I'll beat him up if you want" is only half joking
Tries to make you wear his jumper but only because he is scared of the other people being gross, not because he thinks you should cover up
Takes a shortcut home to avoid it happening again
"I can stay with you for a bit, if you like?"
Levi
"You'd be prettier if you smiled!"
Isn't really sure how to react when it happens, but tries to comfort you anyway
Pushes past his fear of contact to softly hold your hand as you walk away
"Don't listen to them..."
Sits with you silently for as long as you want/listens to you rant about how upset or angry you are about it
Is upset when you tell him that it happened all the time in the human world
"I'm so sorry you have to deal with that, you don't deserve it."
Let's you pick a movie/show to watch when you get home
Satan
*wolf whistle from a passing car*
Doesn't even process the fact that it happened for a moment
Gets so angry, it's lucky for the callers that they were in a car
You try to reassure him that it's fine but he doesn't take that as an answer
"No! They shouldn't be able to just get away with objectifying you like that!"
You end up having to calm him down for a while before he puts all of his attention onto you
"Is there anything else I can do to make you feel better? Anything at all?"
Stares at you so intensely it makes you feel safer just being with him
Refuses to leave you even hours after it happened, mostly to keep himself calm
Asmo
"Hey, beautiful, could I get your number?"
Is so appalled at what just happened he can't even talk
Almost immediately walks directly towards whoever shouted at you to give them a lecture on how sexist it is and that they are a disgusting Demon
"Do you even understand how disgusting that- No! You listen to me!'
Completely shuts them down and proudly walks back to you
You weren't sure whether to be embarrassed by the small audience he had acquired or applaud him for what he had done for you
He made you feel safe
Continued the day as if nothing has happened because he didn't want to make you feel like it was your problem rather than theirs
Alternatively: would bark at them with you
Beel
"Wanna come back to mine?"
"Excuse me?"
Intimidates whoever shouted that with just his height while glaring at them until they run away
You've never seen him so mad (even if he was staying calm for your sake)
Is tempted to pick you up and walk away but doesn't want to risk embarrassing you
"Come on."
Grabs your hand and pulls you into the cafe you were supposed to be going to
Keeps sighing heavily and shaking his head, in complete disbelief at what happened
"I'm sorry I couldn't protect you from that."
You have to reassure him that you are okay. It sucks but it wasn't his fault at all
He goes back to his usual cheerful self and treats you to whatever you want to order
Belphie
"I love the skirt, darling!"
It wasn't the first time it had happened with Belphie next to you, and you knew it wasn't going to end well for them
Demon form immediately out, even though you had told him it wasn't necessary.
"Why don't you say that to her face?"
Frightens whoever did it into apologising so they'll never do it again
"Don't let me ever catch you disrespecting someone like that again."
Extremely overprotective of you, willing to go to any lengths he has to to stop it
Diavlo
"Hey, baby, wanna go out sometime?"
"She doesn't."
Looks like whoever yelled just died when they realise they shouted that at someone with Diavlo
Tries not to make a scene despite how annoyed he is because he knows you wouldn't want that
Holds your hand as you walk away so everyone knows you are with him and won't dare try anything else
"I'll make sure that never happens again, okay? You are safe here."
Barbatos
"You alright?"
Demon form out immediately.
It was almost scary watching how he just stared at the person that shouted it, not doing anything
You could tell he was debating doing what he wanted to do
"Would you mind if I [something completely inappropriate and somewhat illegal]"
"YES I MIND WHAT THE FUCK BARB?"
You drag him away from the situation, telling him about how it used to happen in the human world a lot
"I will never let it happen again, that is both a promise and a threat."
Simeon
"What's up, beautiful?"
Looks so so sad when it happens, almost as if he is going to cry
"I'm so sorry, MC..."
Quietly drags you away from the situation and asks if you are okay, offering you a hug
"We can do anything you want today."
You tell him that it's not necessary, and that you're okay, but he isn't having it
You spend the day at Purgatory Hall hanging out in Simeon's room
Luke
"How are ya, gorgeous?"
Isn't really sure what's going on so you have to explain it to him
"What? That's horrible!" Is so outraged that he almost shouts back
You have to hold him back and lie saying it's not worth it when you really know he wouldn't stand a chance against the person that shouted
"You don't deserve that though!"
It's sweet how passionate he is about it but he understands that you don't want him to do anything and he respects that
Secretly bakes you cookies that he brings to you the next day to say sorry for them being so gross
Solomon
"Heyyyyy, want to go for drinks, baby?"
Sleeves already rolled up, fists formed, ready to throw a punch.
"SOLOMON, STOP!"
Only stops because you want him to
"What the fuck is wrong with you, grow up!"
Is used to defending his female friends from the human world, but that doesn't mean he doesn't get just as angry every time
"I can't believe they have catcalling in the Devildom.... Actually I can."
Doesn't want to make you uncomfortable but offers to hold your hand if you're not feeling safe
Puts a curse in the person that shouted at you
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mrs-lockley · 4 years ago
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are you kidding I would LOVE to hear your specific analysis of them
in which celeste attempts to justify her psychology degree by psychoanalyzing several óscar characters without context, judging solely on their appearance 
[cracks knuckles] alright here we go! the characters i judge are poe dameron, santiago garcia, jonathan (scenes from a marriage), evgeni kolpakov, nathan bateman, abel morales, and blue jones. all under the cut!
for reference, i have only seen triple frontier, a most violent year, sucker punch, and w.e. only one time. i haven’t seen deus ex machina.
poe dameron: looks straight out of a telenovela, a magazine, or a fairytale. with those perfectly tousled curls, 5 o’clock shadow, and infectious smile? he looks like prince charming, the kind of guy you would bring home to meet your parents. he looks like the kind of man who would not only buy you flowers, but your mother, your aunt, your sister, your grandmother! would most likely kiss your aunts on the cheeks in greeting to say hello, a complete charmer but with no malicious intent. not necessarily a flirt, but just someone who is very warm and welcoming and extraverted, has the personality of a puppy. definitely drinks his respect women juice. but may also have a soft, vulnerable side he has difficulty sharing, so he puts up an optimistic front. suffers in silence to not worry anyone. may also be stubborn to a fault but has good intentions. the epitome of the “wanna go out on a date with me where we can go stargazing? you don’t have to if you don’t want to ... unless ...?” 👀👉🏼👈🏼
santiago garcia: looks like one of those handsome bachelors you’ll run into the paint aisle of a home depot. you’ll be in the paint section looking through samples while he’s staring at different samples, more so overwhelmed by wanting to find a good choice of paint for the new house he bought. you see him struggling so you say “behr is a great paint brand” and he sighs in relief. he seems quiet, maybe a little broody, but tries to handle things himself. probably doesn’t like sitting still for too long, likes handiwork, like changing the oil in his car, fixing your sink, most likely the kind of guy who would be a neighbor you’d call if your toilet is clogged and you can’t fix it. seems approachable, but reserved and quiet. could be a flirt, but tends to keep to himself. looks like an average guy, well-groomed, definitely respectable. will probably take a while to break him out of his shell, but a gentleman 
jonathan (scenes from a marriage): pretentious college professor who probably likes dark academia. quotes marx on the daily, would smoke a cigar if he had the chance but opts for cigarettes instead. not necessarily an alcoholic, but def has issues. not the kind of man you’d bring home to your parents. might not be the best man to have a relationship with, but would probably be a one night stand or fwb situation. doesn’t like commitment for various reasons, possible relationship trauma or some kind of trust issues. not necessarily a misogynist, but he isn’t gentle. probably has angry outbursts now and then, needs to see a therapist. but he knows he’s handsome and tries to find meaning and whatnot, just has a tendency to go about it the wrong way. lowkey a fuckboy
evgeni kolpakov: quiet, sweet man. keeps to himself, but observant and perceptive. classy but in a lowkey way. he doesn’t indulge in the finest suits and tuxedos, but he does keep himself well-groomed and puts an effort in getting ready. makes the simple things look elegant and classic. probably drinks wine and champagne, not really a beer fan but would go to a dive bar now and then to meet with friends. would indulge in some silk sheets if he has a chance. likes things steamy and sensual in a casual, muted, and subtle way. probably reads poetry like pablo neruda in his spare time but doesn’t boast about his intellect. both street and book smart, but keeps quiet so people are pleasantly surprised when he displays both. probably would own a cat if he had the chance. epitome of gentleman in the streets, freak in the sheets
abel morales: looks like a freaking sugar daddy, may or may not be. likes the finer things in life and isn’t afraid to indulge. probably would call an escort for some nights when he has to go to a party because he’s lonely. seems gentle and sweet, but there’s a storm brewing behind those eyes that are waiting to erupt. cold anger. likes drinking wine, doesn’t smoke but if pushed and stressed, he might once in a while. just wants peace and quiet, is always in some kind of moral dilemma. haunted by a past or consequences of a future. always feels the need to put up a front, may have a hard time being vulnerable. might be open to romantic relationships, but unsure of himself. not necessarily insecure about himself, but unsure of what women might expect out of him and fears he might not deliver. 
nathan bateman: narcissus in the flesh. probably one of those gym rats who likes to work out and shows off to the ladies in the gym. might catcall, but does it in a subtle way. lowkey a fuckboy, but not a villain. selfish but not cruel. looks out for himself but isn’t out to hurt people either. probably not into hurting other people if it’s at his own gain (to an extent), outweighs the pros and cons. may problematically objectify people as an attempt to flirt and make conversation and give a compliment but backfires. probably one of those loud nerdboys at conventions who boasts about his knowledge, can be annoying but not malicious. probably lonely and depressed and wants validation.
blue jones: gomez addams wannabe. owns a drawer full of different eyeliners, but prefers pencil for that grunge smudge from the 90s. emo and goth. probably listens to evanescence late at night and unashamedly loves bring me to life. has a lot of issues he needs to deal with. another fuckboy, but tries to hide it. likes the finer things in life but wants to maintain an image of power. highkey insecure, inferiority complex. smokes cigarette in a fancy holder. listens to jazz on a record player, exclusively wears suits and would rather die than be seen in jeans and a t-shirt. NOT THE MAN YOU BRING HOME TO YOUR PARENTS. if you fall in love with him, your anthem would be criminal by brittney spears. 
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reverielix · 4 years ago
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my gemini venus is in retrograde in the first house
my lilith is also in the first house
can you tell me a little more about this?
Hi! And sure^^
A Gemini Venus in general is somebody who typically loves with the mind and ideas and words. It's likely you find yourself crushing on people who are witty, quick on their feet, have many different interests, are generally intelligent and feed your hunger for knowledge. In love, you tend to be young at heart and wear your heart on your sleeve. You generally look for the beauty in people/the world and see it as a network to learn from. Your curiosity is admirable and the way that you take every opportunity to learn something new, especially about people you are interested in, is compelling.
Lilith in the 1st in Gemini adds a lot of depth to this impression of you and your world view as you might have a very romantic, compelling and even maybe a "femme fatale" kind of aura. It seems that your outlook on life is pretty much focused on how others perceive you in order for you to figure out what to do to seem likable. You try to seem cunning, nice, charming, light-hearted and generally approachable, but that lilith could've made this hard for you. Now, everything that I'm saying is very surface-level, because I don't know any aspects to the afore mentioned placements, nor do I know the rest of the chart, but this placement indicates a very early feeling of being rejected by people as you wanted to get to know them. It's likely that you have been shamed by others and objectified or sexualized (maybe have experienced a lot of catcalling) in your life, also as a minor.
All this can take a toll on self-love and self-perception. This is why you might seek somebody similar to you, somebody like a twin or like the way that you try to shine your light through the facade. The way that you try to show people who you are at first doesn't quite catch ok the way you want it to, so you look for these traits in somebody else. You look for a twin who can recognize those parts of you that others seem to overlook for shaming you and want this person to look at you and your mind, not the way you look or dress. You want to be loved for your ideas, for your mind and for your youthful self. Not for the overly mature role others have put you into because of their own desires they projected onto you.
It might also be that you are quite closed-off when it comes to your siblings or anything that has to do with early education because many embaressing moments or conflicts might've happened that you might even seek revenge for/want to prove people wrong on.
Lastly, I want to round this up by saying that your self-esteem is not determined by how others look at you or if others affirm you. You might also want to look into the 2nd house for self-esteem and other placements like the 5th house for self-perception and see how it might help you out there.
Those are my thoughts, hope you liked it!
"part two": venus retrograde conjunct the ascendant + lilith in the 1st
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