#I know I know there’s no prodigy and no Picard
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If you could serve with any star trek crew what one would you choose?
Feel free to explain why below
#this is such a tricky question even for me#ummmm#probably ds9 or snw#actually lower decks would be awesome#I think I’d fit in best there#I know I know there’s no prodigy and no Picard#star trek#star trek the original series#star trek alternate original series#star trek the next generation#star trek deep space nine#star trek voyager#star trek enterprise#star trek discovery#star trek strange new worlds#star trek lower decks
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For bonus points share one thing you wish would have happened in that extra season
Edit: So many comments about Prodigy not being on here! Well, I am a Prodigy fan too. But I left it off because last I heard Netflix picked it up. Now I don’t have faith it will happen, but nonetheless there is at least one more season planned and maybe more.
On the other hand, even though the last seasons of discovery & lower decks haven’t finished airing, they both have planned end dates.
#the last season of lower decks and discovery haven’t finished airing but we know what they will be#we aren’t sure what the last season of prodigy and strange new worlds will be#i suppose#trekkie polls#star trek#star trek poll#poll#tng#star trek the next generation#tos#star trek the original series#tas#star trek the animated series#ds9#star trek deep space nine#voy#star trek voyager#ent#star trek enterprise#disco#star trek discovery#ld#star trek lower decks#lower decks#picard#star trek picard#personally I want that final season to be the most gay#the most cannonically clearly gay
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With how much Voyager plays with the concepts of reality and illusion, there's an argument that they never actually escaped the Caretaker
"When your only reality is an illusion, then illusion is a reality."
#star trek voyager#Caretaker is out there playing a game of Sims with the crew of Voyager#i know picard and prodigy negate this theory#but within the series itself#the thaw was a game within a game#Q knows but just comes and visits for the hell of it#they're so far out there who's to say what's actually happening#they immediately go to the welcoming bee which is an illusion confirmed#what is it to be alive? all the questions about the doctor's personhood#a shocking number of episodes with distorted reality for every single character...#i actually have a lot to add to this#but if I sit on it I might never put it out there#maybe i'll come back 'cause i am fucking reeling with this one#again multitudes of simultaneous thoughts and interpretations about it all the time#anyway the fight is on
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The Borg Queen has now been killed at least 4 times on screen. 5 if you count the time that Agnes shot her. She has become the Davros of the Star Trek universe
#yet another reason the Picard finale waa meaningless.#in fact you know what? i bet that they have her in the new season of Prodigy.
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Brett my beloved, you deserve the world... but everything else ... help
Listen, we all know Janeway's not going anywhere since she's alive in Picard S3, but I always had this dread that the reason why no one mentioned Chakotay is because he's.................... And I am very much going to NOPE that. There is a reason people weren't big fans of Picard and it's because it was heavily leaning on tragedy in a franchise that's supposed to be about a bettter future.
Brett deserves S3 and beyond. Kate deserves to take time off from giving (outdated) ideas.
Read the full interview here.
#like Hagemans I see you talking about hope and all the things Star Trek is about so please don't fall into the same trap as Picard did#I am now of opinion Kate wants to kill off a character so she can put a stop to JC once and for all#cause can't talk JC if one of the two is dead and we all know it's not gonna be Janeway#how funny would it be if they FINALLY got together and then BOOM#Chakotay dies#And they can even say they referenced Beyer's books lmao#why am I giving ideas#help#yes there is more to Prodigy than JC#which is exactly why I'm now advocating for them to leave JC alone and focus on the kids only cause I genuinely want more Prodigy kids#but not JC after reading all of the interviews that came out since S2 aired#Kate can have her asexual no romance Janeway in the form of holo Janeway#leave admiral Janeway to the fans#I already read better fics than how they handled them in S2#janeway x chakotay#brett gray#gwyndala#star trek prodigy#gwyndal#dal r'el#kate mulgrew
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If I seem overly harsh about STAR TREK, a big part of my problem with it has less to do with my criticisms of its values than with the franchise's attitude toward its own ideology. From a storytelling standpoint, the fact that the franchise's stated values (optimism, tolerance, diversity) are often at odds with its actual values (colonialism, American nationalism, assimilation) is not necessarily a bad thing, and the franchise is often most interesting where these contradictions are clearly expressed and examined. Where it becomes galling is when the franchise and its fans become so invested in those stated values (which are sometimes admirable, but often threadbare even on their own terms) that they elide or outright deny the obvious contradictions and hypocrisies the actual narrative presents.
In the recent shows (DISCOVERY, PICARD, LOWER DECKS, STRANGE NEW WORLDS), this has begun to manifest in a peculiar kind of heavily sentimentalized faux-nationalist propaganda, where simply depicting the symbols associated with Starfleet or the Federation is expected to produce an emotional reaction the narrative doesn't necessarily support. The way "We are Starfleet!" has become a rallying cry throughout all four of those shows is particularly unsettling to me. Obviously, Starfleet is a fictional military organization in a fictional interstellar empire in a pop sci-fi postapocalyptic future that hopefully won't come to pass (at least not the way modern TREK says it does, which involves, among other things, the nuclear devastation of our world and the systematic extermination of every single Jew and Muslim on Earth), and even within the narrative, Starfleet's actions and motives have never been without stain, up to and including the very recent canon. So, who or what does that slogan really serve, and why are the writers and producers pushing it so hard? My perhaps cynical assumption is "to promote real-world military recruitment," but at best, it's indicative of a weird determination to sell the idea of STAR TREK rather than STAR TREK itself.
#teevee#star trek#star trek tos#star trek discovery#star trek picard#star trek lower decks#strange new worlds#propaganda#starfleet#i haven't seen (and have no interest in) prodigy#i assume it does the same thing but i really don't know
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My one compliant with Prodigy is that Zero said math.
They are British! They smoke fags behind Tesco! They won't drink tea made in a microwave! They eat beans on toast!
They'd say maths! They know it's a plural word, they know mathematics contains multitudes! They wouldn't say math!
#the universal translator did them DIRTY#does picard ever say either?#or julian?#i know picard says lad but i can't think of any other britishisms from the top of my head#the universal translators... they take the dialect away....#i know picard is French but hes british isnt he#prodigy#star trek prodigy#if anyone saw me misspell prodigy no you didn't
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idk man I just think of all the franchises you could try to make the Next Big Thing by creating a bunch of new shows and movies, maybe don't pick the one with the notoriously nitpicky obsessed with canon fandom ?? if you don't plan on applying any sort of consistency to the world, characters, alien cultures, entire ethical and moral framework of the universe, etc etc ????
#I'm reluctant to tag this as star trek and get a bunch of angry folks coming at me#though also lbr SW isn't looking too crash hot these days either for the same reasons#but yes this is about that snw trailer#and the section 31 trailer#and all of the new Kurtzman Trek era lbr#like if you like the new stuff then you do you bestie#I've been enjoying Prodigy myself!!!#but I've bounced off every other show pretty hard after each first season#because the simultaneous disregard of FUNDAMENTAL aspects of the universe / established characters and lore#while also religiously adhering to SOME of the established canon (mostly the newly established stuff)#has been driving me up the wall#hell even Prodigy has been hard now they've set it up to lead into Picard#like no thanks I don't accept any version of events where Bev never tells Jean Luc about their son and goes to raise him alone#like they make all the stupidest shit canon and adhere to it#while also making say being a Vulcan a matter of DNA rather than cultural upbringing#nevermind literally half a dozen other shows which show that's NOT how that works#I am genuinely curious how many folks like me have bounced off the new stuff never to return lol#(though okay I do keep up with trailers and sometimes reviews to see if it sounds worth coming back for which it never does)#or only watched bits and pieces#and are meanwhile enjoying their eighth or ninth or twenty second rewatch of TOS/TNG/DS9/VOY/ENT#like do they really have the numbers showing up to even watch this new stuff???#lower decks was the most popular it seemed and that's ending#but I can't help but think that if they'd stuck to the quality storytelling and a more or less coherent established universe#that were ... you know ... the defining aspects of the franchise ....#that they might have actually succeeded at finding a new audience looking for prestige science fiction television
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“Hey, boss, we’re finalizing the scripts for the new season of our family-friendly Star Trek show. You know, the one that’s meant to be accessible to people who have never seen a Star Trek show before?”
“Did you remember to include a pivotal plot point pulled from each season of our least family-friendly, least-accessible show? It has to be a discreet, unrelated thing from every season, remember?”
“Of course, boss, and we threw in a whole bunch of characters from and callbacks to a 170-episode show from the 90s just to make sure it’s extra-accessible to the kiddies!”
“Great, now just put it on a different streaming service from literally every other Star Trek and we’ll be good to go!”
#I know the Netflix thing was the fault of the executives and not the writers#but hoo boy did the writers make some *choices*#star trek prodigy#star trek picard#like I’m sorry why is the family friendly Star Trek show full of references to the dark and edgy Star Trek where they say fuck?#it’s one thing to make an offhand reference to discovery or lower decks#but this show goes out of its way to be both a prequel to and a sequel to Star Trek Picard#I’m not trying to hate on the show by the way I think prodigy season 2 was pretty solid#I am just baffled by certain choices
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*sniffle* well, that's that then. voyager has made it back to the alpha quadrant (albeit i'm not the biggest fan of the "timey whimey antics save the day" means utilized but i've seen similar plots play out far worse so i'll accept it with minimal brow furrowing), my mind & heart are full with a new sci-fi obsession, and while i know i said i'm diving into TNG asap, i do think my little ticker needs a minute to process & say goodbye to the star fleet captain who-- no matter how good picard/other captains i can't wait to meet are-- will now forever be My Captain(tm), and her intrepid crew (i'll even miss the doctor!) of the U.S.S. Voyager o7
#i've been trying to draw it out (i did a good job at slowly watching the first seasons but by the last few i couldnt resist the binge lol)#gotta also put prodigy high on the list since the grapevine tells me janeway returns#although i think it got an early cancellation bc of course it fucking did#star trek voyager#lots to think on and maybe post about but thats for later#also ive heard conflicting reports about Sevens return in picard & autostraddle may have queerbaited me but idc whats canon i know what i k#what i know and i know that everyone that far in the future is bi until proven otherwise especially our girl#☝ distinguishing romantic partners based solely on gender is an imperfect parameter for efficient seeking of suitable individuals#dani talks about tv#1 question i still need answers to: what IS the star fleet hr protocol for what happens to tom & janeway in threshold????#love how some episodes are these cosmic horror displays that never get referenced again like WHOOPS hyperevolved me & my captain#& LEFT OUR ALIEN OFFSPRING ON THE PLANET we landed on. anyway now back to whatever shenanigans tuvok is up to!#haha it was great though. season 3 alone has a lot of my favorite episodes
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been thinking about the viewing order for my remaining Treks and I think ive settled on
Discovery
Strange New Worlds
Voyager
Prodigy
I have seen Voyager, but only most of it. I havent seen all of it, so I want to do a rewatch so that ill have seen everything, like I did with TOS leading up to TAS + the movies. I also need to watch Nemesis at some point because ive been avoiding watching that movie forever but if im gonna be true to my goal of watching every single Trek, I need to watch it, so maybe once im done Enterprise ill put that on and then move on into Discovery
#star trek#ive watched so much at this point I might as well watch it all#and im sure there'll be things to enjoy even in ones im not as fond of#Picard had its moments and things I enjoyed even if overall I wasn't a huge fan#the one I know is gonna be a tough sell with me is SNW#but I thought id have a hard time with Enterprise and im loving it so! we shall see#I was gonna do Prodigy first but I think I want to re-familiarize myself with Voyager before I do that#because from what ive heard Voyager stuff is pretty relevant#I know enough that the Voyager stuff in Picard made sense to me#but still. a rewatch won't hurt
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Upcoming Poll!
Hi everyone! I’m going to be running a bracket in the format of other tumblr character polls for the best autistic Star Trek character.
Please tell me your favorite autistic-coded Star Trek characters so they can be added to the bracket! I will wait a couple days to start it because I want people’s input, especially since I have only watched golden age Trek but want to include characters from all series if possible. You can submit characters through asks, replies, reblogging the post with a comment, or submissions.
The ONLY RULES FOR SUBMISSION are that the character has to be in Star Trek at least once and you need to consider them autistic-coded. You are welcome to submit characters that aren’t widely considered to be autistic but you think they are. Side characters and one-time characters are also welcome - I will include as many of them as necessary to have a big enough bracket.
I went ahead and made a sideblog for this so that people who want to see the poll won’t have to see other posts too.
Characters I have already decided to include in the bracket are under the cut, so if you don’t see your favorites here, make sure to submit them!
Main Cast (Definitely Will Be Included):
B’Elanna Torres
Benjamin Sisko
Data Soong
Deanna Troi
Elnor
Emergency Medical Hologram
Geordi La Forge
Jean-Luc Picard
Julian Bashir
Katherine Pulaski
La'an Noonien-Singh
Odo
Samanthan Rutherford
Seven of Nine
Spock
Sylvia Tilly
Tuvok
Worf Rozhenko
Zero
Important Side Characters (Next In Line For Inclusion):
Lwaxana Troi
Reginald Barclay
Rom
Side Characters Who Appear Rarely (Included If There’s Not Enough Other Characters):
Jack
Lauren
Patrick
Sarina Douglas
Tam Elbrun
#star trek#star trek the next generation#deep space 9#star trek voyager#star trek tos#i dont know the names of all the other series but i will tag as many as i know#star trek picard#star trek strange new worlds#star trek enterprise#star trek lower decks#star trek prodigy#i will admit these arent even all characters that i *like.* however as an autistic person.#i think it is important to recognize that autistic people who are dicks exist#and THEY TOO are eligible for top autistic star trek character
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One of my favorite things to do is to talk to fellow Trekkies on the english side of the internet and just sprinkle in some agressive german pronouciation of names .
It's not that i like the german pronouciation quite far from it, i just find it hilarious.
#Raumschiff Enterprise#star trek#star trek ds9#star trek tos#star trek tng#star trek voyager#star trek enterprise#star trek discovery#star trek lower decks#star trek snw#star trek aos#star trek prodigy#star trek picard#honestly new trek is less harsh on the name but it still throws me everytime when something is obviously pronounce in a german way#next to something being pronounced like it should be#also just ...just Bajoraner wtf i know it makes grammatical sense and all still sounds wrong#my dyslexia is just very offended by it even before i ever heard of bajorans#but i am getting off trek#it's just funny to use those very suddle differences in pronouciation to confuse people#even just Jean luc ... it's like day and night if you listen to it ... how could we even fuck that one up?#qnd don't even remind me of the SOL period of star trek or as it was know#always cracks me up
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Star Trek
Has always
Included
The arts!
Star Trek: TNG is like "We built a perfect future thanks to the wondrous powers of STEM"
And then DS9 is like "Yes but without the humanities you can't actually maintain any of it"
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If you want to feel good about J/C in Prodigy, I suggest listening to this interview which is great and has the completely opposite vibe from what's Kate been saying.
#janeway x chakotay#star trek prodigy#set a course for season 3#like I can't believe it but Beltran makes me advocate for Season 3#also he doesn't make the shippers feel bad for wanting it to finally become canon#which is really important when considering the shippers basically saved S2#he sounds a lot more rational in his interviews than Kate and doesn't hold this weird grudge against romantic relationships#nor does he cling to outdated tropes#he just wants an exploration of their intimacy whatever that is#something that was promised but we never really gotten it in S2#also the fact that he turned down Picard for that horrid plotline#he knows what he's doing#knowing how he was on Voyager I feel he's so protective of Chakotay as a character#maybe even more so than Kate is of Janeway#because he didn't have a problem saying no to bad plotlines such as the Picard one#I genuinely think that if they listen to him for S3 that everyone will be happy with the outcome
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I am very curious about how people go about watching star trek since there is so much of it
I am also curious about the order in which you watched the series as a whole, so let me know!
please reblog for a larger sample size
#star trek#star trek the next generation#star trek tng#star trek next gen#star trek the next gen#star trek the original series#star trek tos#star trek enterprise#star trek voyager#star trek deep space nine#star trek ds9#star trek discovery#star trek picard#star trek prodigy#star trek lower decks#star trek strange new worlds#star trek snw#star trek the animated series
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