#I just don't want to be unjustifiably hated by anyone either

[queenofthursday6599-blog]

Am I alone in thinking that a lot of transphobes/homophobes also have main character syndrome?

Like there are people out here who seem genuinely convinced that people's gender identities and sexual orientations are about upsetting them.

Boo no one knows who the fuck you are.

Trans people aren't trans in the name of pissing off transphobes, non-het people aren't things other than hetero in the name of pissing off homophobes (because we're all the same to them).

It's not about you guys, it's never been about you guys, and it's never going to be about you guys.

Okay. Full stop. Most queer people wouldn't even care what you guys think about us as long as we stopped getting murdered, and raped, and tortured about it.

Feel what you feel, even though you're a bigot, and that's just a fact, just don't abuse and murder us about it.

You think we're icky. Okay, fine, be that way. Leave us alone then.

The world isn't about you, and doesn't need to cater to you and your wants and desires, as you all love to tell us queers. Go about your business, and we'll go about our business, and we'll be polite to you if you'll be polite to us.

I feel like I'm not even asking for a lot really, literally only for basic human decency.

And sure there are plenty of other queer/lgbt+ people who disagree with me. And the rest of this post is more directed at them.

People who think everyone should love and accept us for who we are, no matter what we are and how we identify, and who we want to share our lives with.

And that's a lovely dream, it's a great goal for us to work towards, but we're not there yet.

We're on like step 12 of 200 on the universal love and acceptance plan, and we still got to get past step 20 of Hey Don't Murder Us Because We're Not Like You, before we can get to step 160 of Let's All Celebrate Are Differences Together.

It'd be great if everyone could get along and love each other as diverse individuals each portraying a completely unique and special existence in the tapestry of the human experience.

We'd all (or at least the majority of us, some of us are petty enough to still be pissed) love that.

But there's some people out there who still struggle to see other people's humanity through the surface differences of others, like their skin tone.

I don't know how it'd be possible for us to defeat homophobia/transphobia before we manage to end racism. Racism is literal ass backwards garbage that has been proven to be based on literal nothing and somehow it's still alive and well no matter what we try.

How are we supposed to convince these people that we, who have experiences so different from them, that we have the same innate humanity, when we haven't even managed to convince them that people of other ethnicity and nationalities are in possession of that innate humanity.

My hope for humanity is high, but my expectations are a few inches off the floor. Because I love my fellow human being, but also know them well enough that you have to sometimes bugs bunny fool them into not being shitty.

Some people are just mean, they're just jerks, and assholes, and hateful, and I don't want to waste anymore time and effort on them than I need to. I don't need them to like me, I just need them to respect my humanity.

It's not our jobs to fix our abusers and oppressors, and sometimes I feel like lgbt+ people can forget that.

[sweatertheman]

Even though Harry is completely unjustified in hating Dora as much as he does, I can understand emotionally why he can't help but see her as "the bitch that fucked him."

If I recall correctly, Harry only became a cop because of the influence she had on him. And it was becoming a cop that fucked him. He became a heavy-duty case solving machine, incapable of turning off, incapable of talking normally to people. He started drinking heavily, started coming apart at the seams. Being a cop turned him into a bad person (or worse, if he was already shitty) and made him lose his mind.

Thing is, there was no way Dora could have known that Harry would become the unstable man he became. She was just an average middle class woman, she didn't know how bad working as a detective could be, didn't know that Harry was someone suceptible to coming undone, likely didn't have the political education to understand that All Cops Are Bastards, and that Harry becoming one would make him into a bastard. Even if she did tell him he should become a cop, she can't be blamed for what he turned into. She had every right to leave when things crumbled.

But Harry, in the low point of his life, can't see that. He needs to blame Dora for making her love him, for encouraging him to become the man he became, and leaving him when he hit rock bottom. Because in his mind, its either that, or it's HIS fault, and everything bad that happened is because of him and the pain he did to others. A battle that goes on endlessly between Harry breaking down apologizing to everyone for being such a piece of shit and telling everyone to go fuck themselves for wronging him. A battle that continues because Harry, as a mentally unstable cop, can't concieve of the idea that both he and Dora are just flawed human beings who made mistakes, and that if he has to blame anyone, it should be the system.

It wasn't Dora's fault that Harry became a cop, it was the system's fault for glorifying the police. Both Harry and Dora here had good motives, wanted to make a difference and help people. But the police are just the lackeys of capital. They don't protect or serve anyone but the interests of the government and of each other. Police are given power over the people and encouraged to abuse it so long as they and their bosses get what they want. And Harry persisted, maybe because he still thought he was doing good work, maybe because he didn't want to let Dora down, or maybe because he just loved having power. And at the end of the day, the experience warped him into a broken man. And when Dora left him, all he had was his detective work, and some fading memories. It pushed him to drink himself to the point he forgot everything. And what thoughts can pop into his mind as soon as he wakes up?

"Officer? Am I millitary personnel?"

"Who would let me be an officer of the law?"

"I don't wanna be a cop anymore."

"Please come take me home. I don't want to be here anymore."

Free from (most of) the baggage, Harry can't fathom the idea that HE of all people is a cop. He wants to leave. He has to ask questions even if he doesn't want to. Harrier Du Bois is at war with the cop inside him. The thing that happens during the game is the process by which Harry rebecomes the thing which was killing him.

It was the Moralintern that fucked Harry. He could have been a real person. A revolutionary, a feminist, a father. But because of the Moralintern and general pro-police propaganda, he became a detective, lost everything, and slowly rotted into the unhinged bastard we know and... love..?????

[inneedofsupervision]

I didn't ask, did I? (Chapter 8)

Happy begrudgingly steps aside and walks after Tony into the diner. The billionaire skillfully ignores the gasps of surprise and the poor attempt to take pictures of him secretly as he strides straight up to the counter. "Two cheeseburgers and a large fry. To go." "Please get in line and wait for your turn, Sir." "Excuse me?" Tony slowly pulls his sunglasses down and glances at the skinny teen behind the register. "Bad hearing comes with age, huh?" mutters the teen under his breath. Happy makes a choking sound behind him. ___________________ Or, how Tony Stark gets sassed by some high schooler working part-time and makes it his mission to figure out what he did to make this kid he'd never seen hate him. If that means annoying the hell out of said high schooler, that's not his problem.

Chapter: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 9, 10

Chapter Summary: During his lab time, Tony gathers new information about Peter Parker.

(Read on Ao3)

“Why are we lingering around here?”

Clint stands before his colleagues, his hands on his hips, glancing curiously at the people gathered in the hallway.

“We watch Tony talk on the phone.”

"Ah."

The archer peeks at where Sam is pointing, and his eyes fall on Tony, who is wildly gesticulating. The glass separating them from the conference room had to be isolated well because the man behind looked like he did not hold back on the decibels.

"Fury?"

"Fury," Steve confirms with a sigh.

“How long has this been going on?”

“Seventeen minutes,” Natasha replies dryly.

Narrowing his eyes, Clint watches as the billionaire stomps across the room, throwing his arms in the air, face scrunched into a scowl.

"It's about Spider-Man again?" he asks, reading the name on Tony's lips, followed by more words that Steve shouldn't be hearing. A glance at the blond's puckered brows told Clint the man had heard them either way.

“When are their conversations not about Spider-Man?” throws Sam in.

"At this point, it feels like Tony's obsession with the teenager who supposedly smeared the tower exists for him to use as a distraction from Fury and his constant questioning about the spider guy."

All eyes turn to Sam, the latter looking around as he feels them staring at him. "What? I thought that was quite logical.”

“It does sound logical. We didn't expect you to come up with such a sound conclusion."

Clint easily dodges the hand aimed at the back of his head.

Sam scoffs. “Who are you, Bucky 2.0? Don’t look at me like that, Steve. I didn’t insult anyone.”

Steve had already opened his mouth when the door to the conference room burst open.

“Is it time for the daily gossip again?”

“Oh, hey Tony. Didn’t know you're here too.”

Tony gives Clint a look that tells him what went through his mind without having to say a single word.

“You say that after watching me through a window for minutes?”

The spy stepped back, hands raised guiltily, but the smile betrayed him.

"Caught."

Tony rolls his eyes.

“Just keep poking fun at me. If Fury starts constantly breathing down your neck and placing unjustified expectations on you, you don’t need to come to me crying like your high school crush broke up with you.”

He turns away from the group.

“Friday, Lab Lockdown. I don't want to hear from anyone today unless it's an emergency. You know what, scratch that. Emergencies go to Cap."

“Of course, Sir.”

The others watch their colleague walk straight towards the elevator.

"What are we betting that he doesn't look for Spider-Man and continues spending looking for Parker?"

Sam glances at Clint.

“How do you know the boy’s last name?”

The archer shrugs his shoulders innocently.

"Wanted to know what was so special about the teen that made Tony make such a fuss over him."

Steve sighs deeply. “I hope you’re not spying on him too. It’s enough if Tony doesn’t know when to stop.”

“Calm down, Steve. I know how to behave.”

Steve didn't look convinced.

"Great, now that he's locking himself in his workshop and not letting anyone in, I'd better ask Bruce if he knows how to clean my wings of this weird plant slime."

While the rest of the team discusses the last mission, Tony arrives at his workshop.

"Friday, place an order with Subway and tell them to have Parker deliver it."

“Sir, Ms. Potts forbid you from ordering any more food on the premise of harassing Mr. Parker.”

Tony sputters, turning to one of Friday's cameras and pointing at it with narrowed eyes.

“Excuse me? Me, harassing anyone? That kid insulted me multiple times and made my property look like a kindergartener’s art project who was left unsupervised with caffeine and a load of black paint.”

“Ms. Potts says you are the adult in the situation and should act accordingly."

“Okay, first of all, I don’t want to hear one more word of what Ms. Potts said. And secondly, I don't care who says what. Friday, send the order.”

“Mr. Parker doesn’t work at Subway anymore, Sir. Should I proceed with the order?”

Tony looks up from his table.

“No, cancel that. Don’t tell me he got fired again.”

“Mr. Parker's contract had not been terminated by the company.”

That catches the genie's attention.

“Would you look at that? He quit himself?”

“The letter of resignation had been submitted by May Parker.”

Tony crosses his arms over his chest, a smirk on his face.

"Sooner or later, Parker got caught.”

"That seems to be the case. For once, you don’t seem to have anything to do with it, Sir.”

The man lifts an eyebrow.

“Please, how is it my fault the kid gets fired all the time?"

“Sir, do I have to remind you that Mr. Parker was terminated from his previous part-time jobs after you placed an order there or interacted with him? There is a 94% chance that you are responsible for him getting fired.”

Tony taps the end of a screwdriver thoughtfully against his chin. If he hadn't been so annoyed by Fury, he would have almost felt guilty. Frowning, the man turns around, leaning his hip against the table.

Several people had told Tony to drop the matter. But he wasn't Tony Stark if he stopped doing something just because someone said so. A small part of him knew that he was overdoing it, and if Fury would let him alone for five minutes, he would step back and think more rationally. Probably.

But Fury does not give him a break, Tony is stressed, and there's this teeny tiny detail that throws him off about his and the kid's encounter, which makes leaving the subject rather difficult.

It was that first meeting with Peter Parker that Tony couldn't get out of his head.

It plays again and again behind his inner eye, over and over again. The boy who mutters that one sentence to himself doesn't leave the man in peace.

“Serves you right, asshole .”

But what exactly should serve him right? That he had been in pain? That he had got hurt?

He's well aware of the countless people who can't stand him and probably even more who would love to see him disappear.

But why would Parker be one of them?

The whole thing didn't make any sense.

Parker's credentials and academic achievements spoke for the boy. On paper, Peter Parker was a picture-perfect student. He is helpful, hard-working, and, above all, worryingly intelligent.

So why was he so incredibly hostile towards Tony?

Nerds like Peter should love him. And according to the after-school activities the boy frequented, he is one. So even if Captain America or worse, Hawkeye were his favorite Avenger, given his educational background and other interests, he would have at least had to jump for joy or stammer as the hero worship overcomes him at the sight of Tony.

Instead, he insulted him with the coldest look Tony has received from anyone in a long time, and that's saying something.

There must be something that he's missing.

Tony stares at his desk with a frown, his chin resting on his intertwined fingers.

The scenario runs through his head again. He and Happy enter the diner. He places his order. Parker tells him to wait. Tony rubs his shoulder.

“Serves you right, asshole .”

Parker had only glanced up at him as he muttered those words under his breath. Tony wasn't sure if the boy had even intended for him to hear it, but judging by his reaction, he didn't care.

"Friday, put all information we gathered about Parker on the table."

A whole row of holo screens pops up in front of the man, who takes a step back and looks at the entire wall of information with his arms crossed over his chest.

Had he abandoned the boy? Had he met him at a convention and didn't give an autograph? Was his school denied a field trip to Stark Industries?

“Is there a time when Parker and I were in the same place?”

"It cannot be ruled out, that you and Mr. Parker were in the same place, but the probability is less than 12.45%."

The whole thing was tearing your hair out. The longer, the man looked into the topic, the more questions arose. And he hadn't even begun to theorize how on earth Parker managed to paint his tower.

Tony rubs his face with a hand.

There has to be something, a common denominator.

“Parker quit all his jobs?”

“His aunt quit all jobs within the last four hours. He also works in an animal shelter, but the work counts as voluntary and is unpaid.

With a frown, Tony watches as DUM-E makes coffee in the kitchenette.

“An animal shelter. How long has the kid been working there, Friday?”

“Since August 21st, Sir.”

“That's not that long.”

A few days before he met the kid at Bill's.

His fingers fly over the holographic keys, and after a few seconds, the image of an inconspicuous building surrounded by a three-foot-high metal fence floats in front of him.

Forest Hills Adoption Center, is written in capital letters above the entrance sign. Tony’s index finger taps tirelessly on the tabletop as he scans the shelter’s website.

“When did Parker start his other part-time jobs?”

“21. August. Sir.”

“What a weird coincidence,” murmurs the man, pushing the steaming cup away from him, which DUM-E has placed on the table next to him. He is close to something, he can feel it.

That also means he couldn't afford food poisoning right now.

“Friday, tell Clint to get his ass over here. He owes me a favor.”

The man enlarges the website of the shelter, his brows furrowed.

“You asked about me?”

Clint stands against the door, eyes checking the holograms before landing on Tony. The man stands up, hands shoved in his pockets before closing the windows between them with a flick of his wrist.

He steps closer, drawing the archer in by throwing an arm around his neck, causing the other man's face to contort in confusion. Dark brown eyes gleam with something Clint can not pinpoint, but he knows, that it cannot mean anything good. Turning towards the door, Tony pushes his colleague forward.

"Say Legolas, when was the last time you got checked for allergies?"

[drakaripykiros130ac]

I don't understand how anyone can like the Greens in the series. I like them in the books because they are good villains, specifically Alicent. I would have given anything to see her come to life on screen rather than the pathetic thing we were treated to. That doesn't help with the fact that apparently Ryan Condal has finally confirmed he's team Greens... I'll never understand this guy. How could he read the book and say that no, the Greens were justified in any way ?! Also, the guts you have to have, even within this fandom, to openly say you support the group of misogynistic and blood purist usurpers... In the sense of saying that they are completely right or that Blacks are just as horrible! But in what universe ?! Ryan Condal would also have said that we would probably change preferred camps in season 2... Man, you can still dream, even with your stupid supporting documents for TG everyone still prefers the Blacks team. It's distressing that the director of the series himself doesn't understand anything he's adapting and that so many people are going in this direction. The number of idiots who tried to explain to me that both teams were equally horrible, that the Greens can't be pure villains because GRRM only writes complex characters, it's obvious. Like GRRM has never written a pure villain ? Are you sure you've read the books he wrote ? No but I swear that since the release of the series, asoiaf fans are worse than before in their unjustified hatred of the Targaryens... These people think they are moral by wanting to put the two teams on the same level or by saying that the Blacks are worse. That revolts me.

Essentially what neutrals think ;

“Yes, it’s not good what the Greens did, but the Blacks are no better seen as they dared to fight back for their rights.”

Like... What dimension did I land in ?!

Just last time, I received comments from someone supposedly accepting that the Greens were worse, but trying to explain to me that Daemon groomed Rhaenyra (which is false book or series), that the murder of 'a Greens child is unjustified (while the Greens shed blood first and we are in a feudal context) that Lucerys taking Aemond's eye is unjustified (Wtf ?!) ah and the best thing was to me say at face value that Daemon was not a gray character and that he was like Aegon IV... (Again... WTF ?!)

https://www.tumblr.com/darklinaforever/701570671006875648/i-hate-when-people-say-greens-and-blacks-are-on

(Afterwards I wasn't gentle in my answers either, but I'm fed up with this type of people)

I personally never liked the greens in the book. To me, they were always the villains. Always. I never viewed Daemon and Rhaenyra as pure innocent angels, don’t get me wrong. I recognize the few mistakes Rhaenyra makes in the book, as well as Daemon’s many, many faults.

For instance, yes, Rhaenyra should not have had Vaemond murdered (even though what he spoke was treasonous and threatened her position as well as the lives of her children). She should not have gone so far with the taxes during her reign (even though she was left with no choice).

However, in this story, despite all their faults, I always felt Rhaenyra and Daemon were perfectly justified. Because their good qualities kind of eclipse the bad stuff. The Blacks are the anti-heroes of the story. They have done some questionable things, but all of them have been justified/done with good reason and good purpose.

The Greens are a whole different story. Everything they have done (mainly Alicent and Otto), they have done out of jealousy and pure greed (hence why they were given the color “green” - the color of greed and envy). 95 % of the war crimes are done by the Greens. Literally the only thing the Blacks are to be held accountable for is B&C. Other than that, every crime was courtesy of the Greens.

To me, the Greens have always been split between those who are anti-villains (Aegon, Helaena, Daeron), and those who are pure villains (Alicent, Otto, Aemond).

For the anti-villains: The one time Aegon presents some goodness is when he has reservations about usurping his half-sister. Other than that, he is pure evil; Helaena can’t be considered a pure innocent soul either. She has good qualities, but she is extremely underdeveloped as a character in the book and we don’t know her thoughts, her motives. She didn’t protest the usurpation and accepted the position of queen consort easily; Daeron is somehow given a free pass by certain people because he is “the daring”, and while that’s true, these people forget how he burned a whole village of innocent people alive.

For the pure villains, not much need be said. Alicent and Otto are a bunch of opportunistic hypocrites and vicious upstarts. I haven’t sensed any bit of goodness in them. Aemond is a psycho with zero redeeming qualities.

Now, in the show, I don’t feel as if the Greens are portrayed better than they have been in the book. I feel like the show writers (mainly Ryan Condal) are trying to come up with lame excuses for them, and it’s just not working. The great majority of the viewers still hate Alicent as much as they did in the book, regardless how many times she presents those “doe eyes”, and the great majority still believe the Greens are in the wrong.

In the show, when it comes to the Greens, there’s always some sort of “reason”, some sort of “accident”. Alicent didn’t mean to shoot her mouth off and convince Larys to murder the current hand, Lyonel Strong, so that her father could return as Hand (even though that is exactly what she wanted). Aemond didn’t mean to let Vhagar know that he wants Lucerys dead (even though his pursuing and direct attack showed his intentions to murder the boy). Crispin somehow didn’t mean to crush Beesbury’s skull in that ball, even though he acted aggressively towards the man for simply speaking the truth and nothing but the truth at that treasonous Council meeting.

These excuses the show writers make for the greens make no sense whatsoever. They should have stuck with the actual canon portrayal, because it’s just ridiculous at this point.

So what if the two sides are not evenly matched?

They’re not supposed to!

GRRM doesn’t write purely good vs bad in his universe, that is true. He loves the complexity of the characters and the stories. However, that does not mean that he intended for the Blacks and the Greens to be evenly matched in this story.

He himself admitted that he wrote the book more in the Blacks’ favor because that’s how he felt (ironic, considering that Fire and Blood is told from the point of view of green supporters). It’s his story. I have seen people accuse him of being biased, always in favor of the Blacks.

Yes, he clearly wrote the Blacks as the protagonists, with better developed characters, with the best allies, the most heroic/epic deaths, most dragons, most Houses supporting them.

I mean, the Starks are TB, while the Lannisters are TG. That alone should give you a clue as to which side you’re supposed to be rooting for.

Clearly GRRM is Team Black, but who says he can’t be? Who says that the sides have to be evenly matched? It’s his story! If he says the Blacks are right, the Blacks are right.

TG stans are just in denial at this point.

[cherries-in-wine]

For some reason Tumblr won't let me edit this but another thing I'd like to add is the song writing just didn't do it for me. I genuinely think that Taylor is capable of writing beautiful lyrics and i wouldn't be so critical of ttpd if she hadn't said it's her most lyrical album. She's a great story teller even while using simple words taking folklore and Evermore for example: "all these people think our love's for show but I would die for you in secret" "I was so ahead of the curve, the curve became a sphere" "now you hang from my lips like the gardens of Babylon" "don't want no other shade of blue but you, no other sadness in the world would do" the entire bridge of cardigan. She uses more complex words pretty well too like how illicit affairs uses clandestine and champagne problems uses crestfallen perfectly. The thing is these words feel really natural when used in folklore and evermore but ttpd feels like a pretentious kid who thinks mental asylums are an aesthetic.

A (not so) quick comparison as to what I thought ttpd would be like vs how it actually was:

In my tears ricochet (i love that song so much) Taylor sings "if I'm dead to you then why are you at the wake? Cursing my name, wishing I stayed, look at how my tears ricochet" the use of ricochet is perfect, the tears that she cried are reflecting back as bullets and hitting the people that hurt her. Here she says "and you can aim for my heart go for blood, but you'll still miss me in your bones" here "miss me" has two meanings, that the person who's aiming for heart will miss it because there's still lingering affection or maybe they're just a coward and "miss me in your bones" also means that even though they act indifferent, they're still gonna miss her when they kill her.

In but daddy i love him, Taylor says "Sanctimoniously performing soliloquies I'll never see" the rhyme is so awkward, and it just doesn't make sense in the context of the song. Sanctimoniously means making a show of being morally superior and soliloquies is essential just talking to yourself. "He was chaos, he was revelry, bedroom eyes like a remedy" maybe i wouldn't hate this so much if it was about anyone other than Matty Healy but again I just expected more from Taylor.

I don't think ttpd represents female rage either, mad woman from folklore alone was more female rage coded than the entire album.

I think swifties are justified in feeling so protective of Taylor after all the kim and Kanye shit went down and people are also justified in disliking Taylor for romanticising asylums, all her carbon emissions, not speaking up for Palestine and her dating Ratty Healy. I also think it's unfair to call everyone that criticizes Taylor someone who just hates successful women. She's done some problematic shit that does deserve criticism. But i think it's also true that some people's reasoning for hating Taylor is unfair and unjustified like how only teenage girls listen to her (not true at all) or she's a bad writer. Let's just stop shaming teenage girls for their interests and let's listen to something other than shake it off before calling her a bad writer.

About Taylor not speaking up for Palestine, I did not say that it makes her a Zionist, but the thing is that she isn't just some billionaire, she's person of the year and a really influential figure that holds a lot of power so her choosing to stay silent is very disappointing.

That's all I've got for now I'll probably add more things later. These are just my thoughts so feel free to disagree but please be respectful about it <3

[rise-my-angel]

I appreciate your takes a lot and think you are quite respectful. I am a Dany fan and would enjoy Jon and Dany together in the books if it was healthy and they were interested in each other and blah blah basically it would have to be a very specific scenario for me to enjoy it but anyway I don’t consider myself a stan of any character or ship and I’m a bit perplexed by that type of fan. I enjoy reading posts by people who disagree with me and have different interpretations of characters. I get so disappointed when I find that I’m blocked by someone just because maybe they hate Dany or they ship a ship I don’t like even though we otherwise have similar opinions and even if we don’t, isn’t it nice to see what other people think sometimes? It’s refreshing I think. I’m a big Jon fan and I’m going to enjoy posts by other true Jon fans even if they don’t like Dany. I just have a hard time seeing why everyone is so bothered. Some fans are very rude and toxic when people disagree (I have been accused by other Dany fans of secretly being a Sansa and Jonsa stan just because I said I think Dany COULD be a villain in the books and I’d be okay with it as long as it’s well written which is silly. I’d be okay with so many different outcomes as long as they’re well written because it’s not my story and I trust George to tell a good one if he ever finishes it at all). I just wish we as fans could focus on celebrating the things we do agree on and ignore it when we disagree or have respectful and thought provoking conversations instead of just blocking or being hostile

I genuinely like dissecting what about characters or ships I dislike and why. I love analyzing fiction in ways that explore what works or doesn't work about something for a story in my personal opinion and how framing certain characters can have adverse effects on fan point of views.

People talk about "hating on things" when really, I love discussing why I think Rhaegar is a peice of shit. I love explaining what about Dany I think is a tyrant. But that is very difficult with a very specific subset of this fandom.

Mostly Dany stans and Sansa stans, but this also bleeds into the general discussion of targ stans. The fact of the matter is, they are fine with trashing the other character, but as soon as I make a post that is anti that character they stan, I am hating unjustifiably. I am hating just to hate and I am looking for things to hate.

And unfortunately, that means I am always on the defensive about my Jon opinions. This fandom has an issue with discussing Jon without attaching a ship to that narrative, especially Jonsa and Jonerys stans. I do not ship him with anyone, therefore I want to discuss him as a singular character and that includes exploring what I think are problematic and toxic characters towards him. Which in my analysis, includes Dany and Sansa. But because to a lot of these people, Jon is seen as an extension of Dany or Sansa in a ship, I am clearly one or the other.

I cannot tell you how silly it is to have "Anti Jonsa, Anti Jonerys, Anti Jonrya, Anti Jongritte" in my bio, and every single one of my anti jonerys posts gets passed around as pro jonsa evidence or my anti jonsa posts gets passed around as pro jonerys evidence.

It is a subset of this fandom I hate because it has shown how impossible it is to discuss Jon as a complete individual character outside of romantic ships and it is exhausting.

It is a very persistent problem. I don't care who personally ships these things, but the fandom has made it's mark by declaring that either your with them or your their enemy and any disagreeing opinions are seen as attacks instead of discussion of media I enjoy.

People can like Dany and Jonerys, or Sansa and Jonsa, but it is the persistent screaming that opinions like mine are being unfairly hateful or delusional that piss me off. I'd rather not have such negative opinions about certain shippers, but it is the angry mob mentality they have that make me so against it.

I want to just discuss Jon as a character on his own, they only want to discuss Jon as a side companion romantic interest to their favourite female character. And I get blocked for speaking against their sacred cow, whereas I go looking through their blogs just to see what their side says so I can make a fair argument to their points when engaging in critical discussion on my own personal posts.

Me and them are not the same.

[religion-is-a-mental-illness]

You are an evil person, generalizing all religious people. Religion isn't a mental illness. Atheism is. Just wait until you die and stand before God.

Just wait until you die and stand before Kahless, the Unforgettable, who denies you entry to Sto-vo-kor and condemns you to Gre'thor on the Barge of the Dead for your lack of warrior honor.

Just wait until you die and stand before Santa Claus, who makes you dig coal for eternity, to fill the stockings of bad children on Christmas.

Just wait until you die and stand before Anubis in Duat for the Weighing of the Heart, to be eaten by Ammit, the Devourer of Souls.

If all that sounds stupid, that's exactly how you sound to me. "Since you don't believe in my pleasure palace, maybe you'll be afraid of my torture chamber." All of that nonsense you regurgitated is part of the same fictional universe. You might as well threaten to push me into the lava pit of Mount Doom.

Apparently, it's evil when I say it, but it's good when you do. That sounds about on-brand for religious hypocrisy.

Do you even think about these things before you vomit them up?

Despite my repeated requests for believers to justify the existence of their god(s), the best you have is "I'm going to report you to my imaginary manager, who'll deal with you when you're not around." Thanks, Karen.

What you're telling me is that you can't. You can't show me your god, and more devastatingly, you have no reason to believe in it yourself. If my "mistake" can't be shown to me until after I'm dead, you can't know it either, and your assertion and belief in it is inherently unjustified.

Your god's displeasure at my lack of belief in his existence is between him and me, just like Zeus' displeasure at your lack of belief in his existence is between you and him. So why does this have anything to do with you? Why are you in my inbox sending me threats? Why is your god so feeble or so non-existent that he can't get things done without you? Or, why do you think so little of him that you feel you need to step in and fix his great cosmic plan that he has for everyone?

Not only that, but you're not really making a very good case against the generalization you claim to object to, since you're doing the classic Xian trope of threatening people with fire and torture for not doing what you want them to do. For not subjugating themselves to your nonsensical mythology. I literally have a tag for that. You're doing the stereotype right here and now, but the problem is me? How does that make sense? Don't claim you don't want to be treated as a cliche, and then go and behave like a cliche. The same kind of Xian who insists that their religion is about love, not fear or hate, will also send you threats of torture, to show you they were lying about the first thing.

If a loving, all-knowing god exists, then I'm pretty sure you've pissed him off more than me, since I never threatened anyone with violence, I just explained my lack of belief in the unbelievable. But you certainly did.

Thanks for demonstrating the damage your religion does to people's mentality and morality. You really undermined your claim that it's not a mental illness, didn't you? "Religion isn't a mental illness, and me psychopathically looking forward to your eternal torture and suffering proves how good and mentally healthy I am." And this makes sense and feels good to you.

Evil is wishing eternal suffering onto a complete stranger for not believing the thing you do, for finding it unconvincing. I didn't do that. But you did.

I'd really rather not end up any place you are, anyway. That really would be torture.

Your religion needs new salespeople. No wonder people are leaving in droves.

[sophsicle]

The world juniors have been so bad for my country :(( I'm from Latvia, and we've only won against Austria. Im just mostly sad for the boys (i literally can't watch sports games, i get way too sad for the losing team lmao)

AnYWay, do you remember the 2021 world championship where Latvia WON in the opening game against canada?? Bc that moment is just BURNED into any Latvian's dna. Like we WON against CANADA. THERE WERE CELEBRATIONS IN THE STREETS (we probably would've partied in the streets of Rīga the whole night, but there were covid restrictions, unfortunately, so it was kept to a minimum. BUT THERE WERE PEOPLE IN THE STREETS)

AND, fun fact, Latvia is one of the only three countries in the world where ice hockey is the most popular sport!! The other 2 are Canada and Finland obvs. So like. We LOVE hockey too, but our souls hurt every day because we aren't as good as you guys. (Except that time we won in 2021)

ALSO a game burned into every latvian's memory FOREVER is that 2014 Sochi Olympics game against Canada. Like. I cried so fucking much that night lmao. EVERYONE was watching the game. And we ALMOST won. Like the pure fucking suspense of sitting through that game, most of the time on 1-1. And that one moment, where Gudļevskis made an insane save to begin with and then Kristaps Sotnieks just fucking reached and pulled the puck away from the goal line??? When he couldn't even fucking see anything? And the puck was already ALMOST over the line??? Core memory of mine. Literal chills just thinking about it. Insane.

And im so close to crying just THINKING about how we lost it. Like. WE WERE SO CLOSE. JUST A FEW MORE MINUTES. Like if we had gotten to the shootout im CONVINCED we would've won. Gudļevskis was a freaking awesome goalie and i WILL fight anyone who disagrees.

And like worst part is that we really did our fucking best and all the guys played as well as they could. There's no one to be angry at. No one even thought we'd do that well. Everyone was surprised by the 1-2 bc it was expected that we'd lose by so much more. It was a good game. That doesn't change the fact that everyone in Latvia cried afterward. LIKE AHHHHHH

Okay long story short, our hockey history against canada is a SENSITIVE TOPIC. We will fight you if you imply anything bad about our boys in those games. Not a threat, just a warning (itstotallyathreat).

anyway, now that I've ranted for god knows how long, um... good luck in the juniors game against the USA? Im rooting for you guys (but full disclosure. If sweden plays for gold against you, ill be rooting for sweden. Bc I'll never forgive that Sochi game)

Also im aware that games against latvia are probably like. very insignificant for canada. BUT LISTEN THEY'RE IMPORTANT FOR US

Ok sorry for yelling in your asks. Im done now. Hockey brings out the passion yk

I want you to know I enjoyed every minute of reading this.

Also i totally get having loses that you can't let go of. My NHL team is the Habs (Montreal Canadiens) and like two years ago they went on a cup run and lost to Tampa Bay and like. I have never recovered. I hate Tampa Bay an unjustified amount. Also any time I see edits from that season I cry. Like. They got so close. And Carey Price DESERVED THAT CUP. HE DESERVED IT. UGH. And yeah, honestly I always feel bad for the teams when they lose no matter who they are (unless they're America, sorry I can't, the rivalry runs too deep, but literally everyone else), like you see their little faces, and they're so sad, they tried so hard, and I just wanna smush their lil cheeks and be like "buck up buddy, you'll get 'em next time" Honestly, so pumped for the Czech Republic and their win against Sweden, because they haven't won gold in like twenty years (I don't think they've played in the finals either) and I don't think anyone really thought they were gonna do much in this tournament (everything I heard was all Canada Finland USA) So like yes, I want Canada to win gold, but if the Czech Republic pulls this off I will honestly be a little proud of them - I love an underdog

[murphymakestherules]

Waiting

Rhi's office was always a soothing place- the smell of the medicines and reagents blending with the leather, vellum, and ink of books and the green smells of living plants to make it seem as though no harm could befall one inside the walls. Gail sat beside the bed, humming some of the songs Malloy had taught her, as he worked on his book. Not the words, she hadn't learned them that closely, but the bright, repetitive tunes had stuck in her mind and she used them now in an attempt to call her partner ('Your lover,' her mind insisted, 'which is the whole reason he's in this mess.') back from whatever dreams kept him unaware. Held loosely in one hand, the letter from her solicitors served as an odd bridge between the cheerfully off key humming and the woman's dark thoughts.

In due course, the Keeper's humming falls silent, her fingertips just brushing Malloy's to keep from accidentally shifting any of the hair - fine needles set around his wrists. "So the letter came in… remember we were talking about needing our own place out on Vylbrand, with how often we're there? We got one. It sounds like it's going to need a bit of work- I guess it's been abandoned for a while, and it looked like it wasn't well cared for before that but…. It's right beside the sea. They sent some pictures, when the paperwork was all finalized…I hope you like it. But you need to wake up, so we can go see it… A new den…"

Her forced cheer fades at the continued lack of response- not that she really expects one. "We're still looking for that thing… and Shinsetsu-san agrees with me, what I think it is. I'm so, so, so sorry, koibito." The hand not reaching for him curls in her lap, tight enough for the short nails to carve dents in her palm. "I'm sorry I didn't stay away, I'm sorry you came with me, and I'm sorry I didn't let Windy kill him after the girls were born. I just….I still hoped he'd get better, if we gave him space." A desperate kind of resignation overtakes the quiet voice as she tries to explain the unjustifiable to the one person she really wants to understand- even if he won't remember what she's said. "I hoped that… That maybe if he didn't have it shoved in his face- what he gave up- every minute of every day, he would start to grieve. To heal. And that even if he couldn't forgive me, maybe he could find a way to…I don't know, accept that it wasn't my choice either. But now you're caught in the crossfire, where I never wanted you to be. I'm the one who was supposed to be dead years ago, it doesn't matter what happens to me now, but you….."

She trails off with a sigh, trying to reconcile this latest disaster in her mind. "This wasn't supposed to happen to you. I just seem to attract unintended consequences to the people I care about. It should have been me though…. He- it should have attacked me. And..I understand, if you hate him, when you wake up. Or if you hate me, and don't want me around anymore. I'm more trouble than I'm worth, usually. Or so they keep telling me, but… As long as you're all right, healthy and happy, that's…" A heartbreaking crack in her voice forces her to pause a moment, as she tries to keep the control she feels is needed. Just in case anyone should enter at the wrong moment. "That'll be enough for me. I won't make you keep putting up with all the baggage that comes with letting me stick around if you don't want to. Kami alone know why you'd want to. You keep getting hurt because of me… How is this- any of this- even remotely worth it?" Her voice, already quiet, falls nearly inaudible as she flattens her hand against his chest. Reassuring herself that even though he doesn't wake, he's still at least alive. "I'm not- never have been…. But it's not my choice to make. So you need to -to wake up. And decide for yourself. "

A chime in her ear halts the quiet monologue as she chokes back the long-learned self loathing. A moment later her pleasantly impassive mask settles over her features once more as she prepares to face her family and co-workers. "It sounds like the computers have something for me, so I need to go… if you wake before I get back, I'll return as soon as I can." Hard callused fingers brush whisper soft over his face, tucking an unruly bit of dark bangs behind a rounded ear before she turns to take up her tasks once more. And when the door closes behind her, the soft sound of the sleeping man's breath are all that remain to break the peaceful stillness.

[0thsense]

9/30/2023

When I'm feeling down, I am vigilant to find fault in others, because it makes me feel like I have something over them. A stupid act of desperation.

The time limit is approaching. I am not doing well. What does it mean to give up? I want to run myself to death.

Could I survive losing all of my family and friends? Should I prepare myself for it? It'll slowly happen at this pace. Was I wrong about things all those years ago? Maybe I should quicken the pace.

I can't open up to anyone. Noone will understand, and everyone will think they understand. Hell, some people probably think they understand already without me saying anything. Maybe the easiest way to be happy is to presume you understand about unhappiness you've never felt.

I wanted to understand my emotions. It might be too late, because now all I ever feel is anger and frustration. Base, useless, devastating emotions.

Some girl I used to know followed me on Strava the other day. Simply because she connected her account and auto followed all of her contacts. And I held onto that for the whole day. Pathetic.

Do I feel good when I beat myself up like this? Honestly it's a little cathartic but I'm not sure if it's healthy. I spend so much time thinking about the past, it fills every undistracted moment of my life. Will it ever stop?

So dramatic for someone who has lived such an objectively easy life. I don't really believe that, more just unsure. But everyone else would surely mock me for thinking I have such insane struggles in my circumstances. So I can't open up. They'll think I'm even more pathetic than they already do. A good way to get some one time pity and then having them slowly drift off. A bad way to quicken the pace.

Maybe I just need to get better at slapping on a smile and enthusiasm, so that it doesn't take so much effort every time. Just get good at it so it doesn't take all my energy, so I don't dread it every time. Just... become an automatic liar. Perfect.

I'm not looking forward to going to Japan soon. I'm worried my shell will break over those 2 weeks. Maybe I'm even more worried that it won't. Maybe I will just be boring because I'm getting tired having to put on enthusiasm all the time. Perfect.

My legs hurt from running today. Good. I wonder if how I feel right now is accurate. If I look back on this post it will probably read pretty terribly. Have I made no progress? Perfect timing to be depressed again for the holiday season. Last time I showed up one time and they thought I was fine. Because I guess I'm good at faking enthusiasm. Fuck you.

If I think rationally about it, it's my fault. It's hard to tell when someone's depressed, and it's even harder when I've been putting on masks for my whole life. But I can't tell them either. Probably the worst cases of depression are the ones where they have noone to tell. Because they can't trust anybody to care enough. I'm doing fine everyone.

God and I hate it even more because I become so self absorbed. Making me lose one of the few things I prided myself on: empathy and thinking of others. And I kept that pride even though it became unjustified. It hurts.

Maybe I can try to think of others in this post. Harley decided she wants to move back home, because of RTO. I wonder how she feels about that. I wonder if I chose that just because it's semi relevant to me. My dad might also be kinda depressed, I'm kinda worried. Probably partly due to me.

God, I can't think of much when I try to remember caring about others recently. You don't just feel worse, you become worse. Please let me care for others again. I am an asshole. I'm not willing to sacrifice myself to help others. I find something in them to condemn and justify this. Nobody helped Jerry, and everyone sure loves beating down on him.

Endroll was a nice game.

[reel-fear]

Another thing is I don't mind if Blitzwing hates BA esp over the surgery thing, personally I would prefer it over him also just being an asshole about her organic side- But I want it to be unjustified, I don't want it to be Blitzwing angry at this person who hurt him and made him the way he is. I want it to be unreasonable anger towards someone who was involved in his trauma but was by no means to blame for it.

Esp combined with the idea of either Megatron pressured them to do this or maybe BA did it as a way of showing shes good enough to keep around to the cons. Blitzwing doesnt want to consider her side of the story, hes in denial that he fucked up his body and there's not really anyone to blame besides himself bc he took the risk. Hes angry and hurting and he needs someone to blame. Its unreasonable but also sad.

Then like one day the tension comes to a boil BA tries to find out what she has to do to not deal with Blitzwing's constant hostility, to get him to let her at least bring him to the med bay to fix him and Blitzwing in this moment of pure emotion tells her that she could never understand how horrible he feels, how unforgivable what she did was bc now he is trapped in a body he hates AND THEN BOOM IT HITS HIM.

That's what BlackArachnia has felt ever since the accident and her new body costed her, her home, her life, her friends and family, all of it is now gone. Now he knows why shes so bitter why shes so hard to befriend to earn the trust of, because her friends let that happen to her.

They're going through a lot of the same struggles and both are now uncomfortable and trapped in bodies they hate. And all this time his anger blinded him to the one person who would Most understand how hes feeling.

And they become besties BA decides fuck the autobots I can live with my body and so does Blitzwing. Then BA moves in with him and Lugnut and has to deal with their obnoxious love but secretly shes just so happy to have friends again and this is the premise of a sitcom I'm pitching 2 and half pests-

[omegas-spaghettios]

In Defense of Hunter, Wrecker, Tech, and Echo

I want to clarify that I like Crosshair. I used to love him and I just kinda like him now, but he's a great character. I hold nothing against his fans. I just want to talk about how people are slandering these 4 like they did everything wrong when everything they did was pretty justified.

I need to talk about Crosshair's chip, because that affects how we all view these final episodes. While I agree things don't add up completely, Cross has no scar, nursing a headache, etc., his behavior DOES indicate he is telling the truth.

Chipped clones have been shown to show loyalty to the Empire above all else. They killed the jedi, they'll kill innocents, they forget all sentimentality, and we see with Jesse that they will more than happily die to accomplish the chip's commands. The Batch has experience with this with Captain Grey in the premiere and later Wrecker. Chipped clones are basically battle droids.

Crosshair does not act like that at all. He shows sentiment and loyalty to personal history, he defies orders to even kill his fellow imperials, and he puts aside his anger in order to escape Kamino. NONE of those things are congruent with him having a chip in at all. So while it doesn't add up completely either way, the evidence honestly seems to favor that he's telling the truth as his behavior is a huge tell that has not been shown to be able to be countered for more than a few seconds (love you Rex) while an absence of a scar could indicate a variety of things and the headache can honestly just be chronic pain from his insane head injury in Episode 8. I'm not saying that is the truth, but what I am saying is the evidence provided can easily line up to more than make it believable that Wrecker, Echo, and Tech believe he has it out.

Wrecker does know what a chip feels like, so we all expected more empathy from him, but Crosshair is not acting the way did Wrecker did AT ALL. Wrecker lost all control and immediately tried to kill the people he loves most, while as stated Crosshair is exhibiting almost opposite behavior. Wrecker knows what a chip does to you and Crosshair is definetly not showing that, so why would Wrecker show empathy for it? Wrecker knows first hand that is not what the chip does to you so it more than makes sense that he sees Crosshair's behavior and story and believes it.

Crosshair's intense feelings of Supremacy and loyalty to the Empire are not out of no where. We see in TCW that he is incredibly cruel about regs, he has always hated them. So considering the journey he went on this season it does feel like a realistic progression of belief.

Crosshair also is hurting his own cause here. Now we as the audience know for sure he had it in for Episode 1, we are shown explicit evidence. We have no idea when he got it out though due to the lack of a scar, and his refusal to specify hurts him here because what he actually did as himself vs. chipped is VERY important. I also want to say that while the audience knows Crosshair has the chip in in Episode 1, no evidence is provided to the Batch to know that, so Crosshair saying he had it out "a long time ago" means it is reasonable that the Batch could even suspect everything he did since Episode 1 was him. And here's a quick rundown of some things he did this season that the Batch would know about:

Obeyed Order 66 and shot at a child jedi even when ordered to stand down

Advocated to kill civilians to the others

Shot Wrecker and used him as bait to lure the others out

Lead dozens of Troopers to Bracca to kill them

Went out of his way to order his troops to kill Omega during that confrontation within earshot of Hunter

Tried to burn them all alive with an Ion Engine

Contributed to the oppression of Ryloth

Arrested Howzer, a clone who was trying to do the right thing

Spouted supremacist jargon about how they are superior to regs (something Hunter, Tech, and Wrecker have been shown to be softening up on)

Said the might of the Empire was the only way and basically gave them all the choice to join or die.

And remember, our heroes just got the revelation that potentially all of those actions were taken of Crosshair's own free will. They have every right to be harsh or unwelcoming after that. Sure they didn't try to rescue him but he also tried to put multiple blaster bolts through their heads, no one is innocent.

So the general coldness and harshness is more than understandable considering that Crosshair just admitted to trying to get them all killed on multiple occasions on his own free will, that would sour your relationship with anyone I reckon, so why are they expected to be okay with Crosshair doing all of that?

Anyway, to specifics. When Wrecker says Crosshair never even tried to come back and that they would have taken him, there is truth to that. During both Bracca and Ryloth, Crosshair was right there and had opportunities to turn heel and help them all escape, but he never did. I've seen this described as victim-blaming but you guys need to realize that Crosshair has potentially done ALL of this of his own free will and is actively trying to pull the others to the Empire. Wrecker is right, Crosshair put more effort into killing or converting them than he ever did in returning. It's harsh but it's true.

And Tech saying it's in his nature is like, classic Tech. I don't necessarily agree that they all have set paths due to their biology like Tech does, but Tech began this season rattling off about how Wrecker was made to be the way he was, this is just how Tech rolls.

The one I see a lot is after Crosshair rescues Omega and they still have the guns up and then never thank him. First of all, Crosshair never thanked them either for saving his life so let's not go around expecting any shows of gratitude from everyone. But more importantly, how were they supposed to know that Crosshair was saving Omega? As a viewer I legit thought he was aiming for Hunter there, it makes more than enough sense that they pulled their weapons on him. And considering their recent history, it makes sense that all three of them keep their weapons up longer than needed, both Hunter and Omega are potentially at risk. We all saw how quickly all of them drew their weapons in Episode 13 at even the slightest hint of danger to Omega. Considering everything before, it makes sense they kept them up until he disarmed himself, that's just good self defense honestly.

And my final point:

CROSSHAIR WAS NOT ABANDONED AT THE END OF THE SEASON

He was given multiple invitations and opportunities to join. Sure, he was not made to feel all that welcome, but even after all of the season and the finale, Wrecker stops to ask if he is coming and Hunter gives him one last chance. He was given many opportunities to go with them. He said he made his choice, that isn't abandonment, that's stepping away.

In Conclusion

Honestly all 6 of the main characters really dropped the ball on this season's conflict and no one is blameless or unjustified.

I'm not mad about it because it makes for compelling character drama, but everyone involved kinda didn't do their best, so maybe let's not slander one side over the other?

(Small lists of commenters who showed interest is seeing this: @violettavie @shilsvampsinger @rain-over-kamino )

[spitefulcrepechan]

Allow me to spend the next few minutes rambling about why yall are stupid for hating Ice Juggler Cookie just because they're "rude"

Also since idk Ice Juggler's gender I'll be using they/them pronouns for them.

So the major complaint ive seen people have against Ice Juggler is the fact that they're very passive-aggressive and rude towards people. Not rude as in like Devil Cookie rude but like Karen-level sort of rude

I can understand why, some people just don't like rude cookies, some prefer more mellow cookies like Herb Cookie or depressed cookies like Sea Fairy Cookie

My issue however is that people are unjustifiably hating Ice Juggler for being rude without seeing WHY they are so rude.

And I'm here to insert that knowledge into your skulls with 2 simple bullet points

1. Their job in the circus

Jobs aren't always fun, the very definition of a job isn't to be fun. While people can have fun or are content with their job, some people don't exactly like it for various reasons; Too stressful, bad work enviromemt, low pay, etc.

Some people could argue that working in a circus, specifically as a clown, would be a very fun job. Other's however could argue that its bloody hell. While I can't say this for anyone, I can see why that other side would say that.

Picture yourself as Ice Juggler, you're suppose to go around on stage, rolling a ball around beneath your feet while you juggly at ice cream scoops while people laugh at you. You're struggling to try and keep the ball rolling, keep yourself juggling, and make sure you don't crash into anyone or anything, coupled by having to jump from ball to ball. One slip up, and people will either laugh at you or boo in disappointment, and if you get the latter, your boss won't take kindly to that. But if you get the former, you're probably still gonna be a bit pissed because people are laughing at you getting seriously hurt. I know the intent of clowns are to be comically injured, but Ice Juggler isnt a cartoon, theyre a living breathing cookie who can get hurt. And while it may not be so bad the first time, having it happen to you over and over again could probably chip away at your sanity.

And before you ask "Well, Ice Juggler can just get a different job if they don't like it!" You're still just be assuming shit simply by force glance. The circus could probably give them decent pay and they seem to be capable of doing their job right, so they may WANT to leave their job but they may NEED to keep it, either because Ice Juggling's the only good thing they're good at (duh its in the name) or because theyre need to money.

2. How they're treated at their work place

Even if they do passionately love juggling and rolling on balls, the way their boss, Choco Cup Cookie, treats them is just atrocious

(Credit to Royal Mike on youtube for the screenshots)

An example being how Choco Cup Cookie tells Ice Juggler Cookie to shut up after judging an audition of someone, later saying "someone might hear you"

Publicity is one thing but the welfare and the freedom of your employee's speech is another, and this is clear evidence that Choco Cup neither cares or is ignorant about how Ice Juggler feels about shit.

Now some people may assume that Ice Juggler is being way too mean about the cookie's audition, but we dont exactly see what the cookie's audition was. It could have been atrocious, it could have been brilliant, we're never told this. We just know that Ice Juggler found it awful and Choco Cup found it "not so bad", which may hint at it actually being as awful as Ice Juggler implies but for now, again, its just speculation.

The point here is that Choco Cup isn't allowing Ice Juggler to voice their opinion/criticism, especially when theyre doing a task THAT GIVES THEM THAT OPTION. The cookie auditioning asked to be judged by Ice Juggler and Choco Cup, and Ice Juggler gave them their judgement, to which Choco Cup tried to shut them up for.

Aaand to make matters worse, Choco Cup's literally telling Ice Juggler that they're not allowed to express their emotions, which Choco Cup's clearly aware of, since it'll damage the circus' reputation.

Dunno about that but clearly that is a sign of some major fucking mental manipulation.

If you have to say that one's emotions will ruin your company, then honey, your company is already running straight towards hell

Especially when you have to physically shut them up. (For context for those who weren't around during this event (like me), its Banana Cookie's turn to audition and its implied that Choco Cup covered Ice Juggler's mouth giving the *URMPH*)

And before you assume that Ice Juggler is being a douche solely for being a douche

Bitch

Literally saying that Banana Cookie's performance wasn't all that bad. Wasn't great, but wasn't horrid either.

EVEN BANANA HERSELF SEEMS AWARE ABOUT ICE JUGGLER'S CRITICALNESS AND WANTS SOME OF THEIR CRITICISM

AND WHAT DID GUD OLD CHOCO CUP COOKIE DO?

Put words in their fucking mouth

Am i making my point clear?

Can you see why ice juggler is so pissed? Because their boss is literally prevent them from being anything more than an ICE JUGGLER

Literally go to hell choco cup

Sorry that this one was alot longer than part 1 but i felt like i had to expand a bit more on this cuz theres a lot to unpack here. Theres some more atrocities Choco Cupfuck has done but this is prob enough to show a good reason why Ice Juggler is rude af

Anyway i hope yall like this post and while youre valid for disliking Ice Juggler, i hope you at least understand why they have one of the reasons you potentially dislike them for. Feel free to add your optinions or anything i missed, reblog, whatever

[bigskydreaming]

Hi! I was reading a fanfic and it brought up Roy and Dick's fight, which I see a lot of in fics but never what they fought about and consequently why they don't talk. I thought it was a vague excuse/reason why Roy was Jason's friend not Dick's anymore but this fic brought up when Dick was batman so I was wondering if there was actually a fight between them? Btw I really enjoy your metas! They're v thought out and well articulated. Also it's v easy to separate what's your opinion and what's fact which is. Very helpful for me

Yeah this is one hundred percent a fanon thing that's kept deliberately vague to justify why Roy in his friendship with Jason seems to have no positive thoughts or concerns about Dick whatsoever. Now granted, Dick and Roy are not nearly as close in the New 52 as they were pre-Reboot. The lack of their friendship there is definitely one of the things I disliked most about the Reboot - and I actually don't care if Jason and Roy are friends tbh, its the total erasure of his history with Dick as if he can't be friends with both, that like, bugs most.

But so like, yeah, Roy and Dick aren't super close when they interact on the Titans in the New 52, but there's literally nothing in any of their interactions that explains the complete absence of him from Roy's life or a reason that Roy would like, hate him the way he tends to in a lot of Jason-centric fics.

When you factor in pre-Reboot stuff though, it starts to get a LOT more.....uh wyd? And this is why I have trouble buying that people just write Roy and Jason the way they do because its the only thing they know from recent comics. Like one, most fans talk about how they don't even read the source comics, so there's no reason their knowledge of the characters or events would be limited to just recent comics if they're going off wiki summaries and scans anyway. And second, most fans AREN'T limited in their knowledge to just recent comics.

Like, the second people start writing Roy and Jason and Kori but with their pre-52 characterizations and references to events from THAT timeline, it all gets very messy, the way they're like, completely antagonistic towards Dick a lot of the time. Because Roy and Dick were always solid. Yes, they fought. A lot. But they always, ALWAYS made up afterwards. They had conflict about Roy's drug addiction - it didn't stop Dick from being there to support him through rehab, or Dick being the first person Roy called to help him get Lian after he learned of her existence. Dick literally held Lian before Roy ever did? He's the one who first put her in Roy's arms for the first time.

(Which is the prime grudge I and most Dick Grayson fans have about Roy and Jason fics which make Jason like, the absolute apple of Lian's eye. If you want to expand Lian's circle of loved and trusted ones to include Jason as Roy's friend and thus her uncle, like go for it! But there's zero reason that should require invalidating and erasing the fact that Dick was this little girl's adored godfather and uncle for pretty much her entire life. And the way Dick is just shoved offstage from Lian's life entirely, to slot Jason into his place as though they're completely interchangeable, its like....THAT'S the kind of thing that gets people irey about how Jason 'steals' Dick's dynamics and character relationships.

Because there's nothing saying they both can't be major players in Roy and Lian's lives! But just that they're not interchangeable! You need to develop the specific role Jason plays there WITHOUT just overwriting everything Dick actually did in relation to the two of them pre-Flashpoint, which is what you're drawing from the second you write Lian, unless you're specifically going with the few appearances we've had of her within literally just the last year.

But I mean, when people just search and replace Dick Grayson in all Roy and Lian's pre-Reboot stories and act like Jason was the one doing all of that instead.....why wouldn't fans of the source material be annoyed by a character getting credit for interactions and things done for Lian and Roy that Jason literally NEVER DID, while at the EXACT SAME TIME, conjuring some mysterious, unnamed 'Falling Out' that Roy and Dick had, that was clearly all Dick's fault, and resulted from him being basically excised entirely from Roy and Lian's lives?

Same with Kori, for the record, and like despite being Dick's ex, she and Dick have NEVER been like, estranged? She and Dick have often been close even after their breakup. None of it makes any sense, and the fact that a lot of fans don't even try to make it make sense or justify it, and expect other fans to just be fine with settling for an inexplicable reversal of Dick's every actual dynamic with these characters while setting up Jason to occupy the exact same role Dick played in these other characters' lives, like.....lol. Its fun.)

Anyway, back to your question, like, there are fights you can go with pre-Reboot as the source of various conflicts between Dick and Roy - but again, I maintain its just as crucial that they're always written as getting past them. They have a very tempestuous relationship because they are the two people MOST likely to call each other on their shit, two of the two people WITH the most shit in common due to the parallels in their childhoods and the roles they've occupied in the Titans and the superhero community in general, and the two people most resistant to being called out on their shit by each other, lol. Mostly in that case because like, they do recognize that they have a lot in common and understand each other very well, so the second the other is calling them out for something, they're usually like "ugh, if HE'S saying this, its probably true and I am just not prepared yet to be wrong about this. I need more time being unjustifiably rawr about things." Its like that thing where they both look at each other doing something that feels familiar or calls back to their own reasons for doing something and they're like ugh I'm in this picture and I don't like it.

So they clash. A lot. But always with the implicit bedrock of like, there's nothing either of them can do or say to the other that will push the other away for good.

They fought over Roy replacing Dick as leader of the Titans when Dick's wedding fell apart, even though Roy actually didn't want to do it and was kinda pushed into it by the government, but again, Dick like, got over it and realized it was for the best and forgave Roy for it that very same issue. And on and on. It always went like that. So there's plenty of stuff that can be used or pointed at as a source of conflict between the two, but the part I'll always call unbelievable is the idea that they never make up after one of these fights. Why now? What fight, specifically, is so bad between them that despite everything else they've gone through AND gotten past, they can't get past this one? Y'know?

So yeah, that's my take on this. There is no definitive falling out between Dick and Roy as many fics like to point to in order to shove him offscreen and make room for Jason in Roy and Lian's lives, and personally, I just don't find it necessary and I actually think it makes Roy look REALLY bad. Because when you're not specifically detailing all the things that Dick has actually DONE for Roy, the lengths to which he's been there for his friend, and like, specifically invalidating each and every one of them as something that never happened in a particular fic, then literally anyone who reads that fic and has their own awareness of Dick and Roy's friendship is kiiiiiinda likely to be reading that and thinking wow what an ungrateful asshole, when Roy's just written as bitching about Dick with Jason and sandbagging him without any real explanation as to WHY, beyond just 'oh they had a fight years ago.'

(And coming up with some random awful thing that Dick did to justify Roy hating him now isn't like, a superior alternative, lmao, because again, its still just trashing one character for the sake of getting him out of the way of two other characters' friendship and people are going to think what they think about that).

Anyway, my now standard stock disclaimer that like, there doesn't actually need to be a canon fight obviously, for people to just write things this way and handwave that Dick and Roy had an epic falling out years ago and now they just hate one another or whatever, or just Roy hates him or vice versa. Obviously people are free to do what they want. They don't need a reason other than "I want to write it this way so Jason and Roy are friends and Jason doesn't have to 'share' him with Dick or have his friendship be overshadowed by their greater history together." That just happens to be a reason that no Dick Grayson fan is ever really going to be happy about, lol, for what should be perfectly obvious reasons, so it honestly shouldn't be surprising to people that fans of the source material often gripe about it.

Because yeah fanfic is a tremendous opportunity to transform the source material into something better, but if what's better for some fans actively takes away what was working perfectly well for other fans the original way, they're going to say that. Especially in a fandom where so many new fans take their view of the characters and their dynamics from fics rather than the source material - when fandom has that much of an influence on what new fans perceive to be 'canon,' fans are perfectly within their right to emphasize what is ACTUALLY canon and what isn't, so that new fans at least have the opportunity to determine for themselves what take they want to go with, instead of just accepting at face value that the nature of say, Dick and Roy's relationship is just that Roy hates Dick because of some mumble mumble ancient history vague mumble details not found mumble mumble fight.

[everlastingspiral]

look, you're entitled to your own opinions, however contradictory they might be, but genuinely, i have got to ask: why do you watch/listen if you hate it that much? it seems you just have a blog for talking about how much you hate erik, the characters, the "statements," storylines, and more. why not just move on to something different?

the one thing i will add is the the caelum situation and the fred/bright situation were different, and anyone who witnessed both can see that. when fred and bright's controversy broke out, there were many insults to erik himself and his writing, personal attacks to him, whereas the caelum situation was completely removed from him. no one was attack him because of what was happening with the fictional character. does this mean that bullying and harassment was justified? no. but the situations each solicited a different response from the creator. you have to at least see that, right?

regardless, your point standing around your blog that "if you don't like it, don't read it" should be employed for your choice in listening to redacted. if all you're going to do is complain and hold erik accountable for his "sins," then just listen to someone else. i'd be happy to give you recommendations, but all you're doing is just spewing hatefulness that it generally unjustified (and i agree with some of your takes, while saying that). please, find a different hobby.

Ah yes, just what I needed after a bad day. A holier than thou anon.

Look, while I appreciate your fake concern, next time just cry and say you hate someone criticizing your favorite creator eh? You’re already hiding behind the anon mask. Might as well be honest.

To touch on each of your points here:

Enlighten me as to what makes you think I still listen to the content of his that I hate? I don’t sit here being spoon-fed like the majority of the fandom. There are parts of his work I do genuinely enjoy otherwise I wouldn’t be here. Outside of some of my more minor complaints like Milo’s, most of what is on that list I’ve already dropped a while ago. Not that there’s even been any plot to consume or complain about in months but still. I apologize that I’m a complex human being with my own thoughts and not a generic children’s cartoon you can easily pick apart.

Now I don’t remember Redacted receiving personal attacks, but maybe that was because I was trying to tune out that insanity. What I saw more often were people in the fandom attacking each other and arguing their points on the situation. Yes, I do see the difference between the two situations, and I compared the two in severity. What exactly is your point in bringing this up, anon? If you’re afraid of Caelum disappearing from the channel, or otherwise never getting another video, you have only the close-minded fools in the fandom to be angry with. I had nothing to do with that drama escalating and in fact I tried to stop it. As far as Redacted goes, that’s just fandom behavior and he’ll have to deal with it. No, that still doesn’t make all the harassment and direct attacks okay, but that’s what a fandom can turn into unfortunately. If he wants to build up a large fanbase he’s going to have to buck up and hold his ground.

If you don’t like my blog, don’t read it anon. I keep the majority of my posts out of the tags for a reason because this is mostly a vent blog. If you find a post that is tagged where I’ve begun a discussion and continued reading, that’s on you. If you found my posts on another blog and chose to read them and choose to search for more, that’s on you. Unlike you and several others, I don’t act like every single bit of fan content in this fandom is curated for my tastes and find no need to consume it all. I’m not going to mince words on posts I create specifically for myself either. You don’t like criticism? You don’t like how harsh I come across? Don’t come on my blog.

We could go back and forth all day about my choice to listen to Redacted and your choice to waste your time preaching to me about what I do with my time on my own blog, but I don’t care to deal with you after this response.

Just to humor you a little more, I also have no idea what makes you think I don’t follow other creators either. Of course I do. Woefully for you, your pleas to rid of me have fallen on uninterested ears so I’m afraid you’ll have to find a new blog to virtue-signal to. Go tell all your comrades how much of a terrible asshole I am, lurking in a hateful corner and minding my own hateful business. Meanwhile I’ll be doing just that. Have fun.

[alphamon-oryuuken]

@the-fourth-knower

[This proves it was never about proving they're right. They just want to fuck with you out of spite at this point.]

It was about calling her out for her lies back on Twitter. Then someone gave me a link showing her spreading false info about me after she fled like a coward.

If she wants to keep throwing shade, then she can deal with the consequences.

[Dude would you fucking stop already. It's bad enough you insisted on arguing with Aquillis on twitter, but you're gonna fucking harass her here too?]

She started the argument by spreading false info, then she decided to keep insulting people when they made better points than her, and now she is reading folds info here while painting herself as the victim.

If anyone needs to grow up, it's her.

[In all of your interactions with Aquillis, who was the one to start them?]

Her, because she went out of her way to trash-talk IDW and Ian. Then whenever somebody pointed out that she was wrong she either had to move the goalposts or insulted them for enjoying the series.

[Better still, no one forced you to respond or interact with her.]

And no one forced her to read IDW, and yet she felt the need to keep trash talking it and it's fans out of some unjustified hatred for the writer.

[ And don't you dare say she did the ]

I'll say it as much as I damn well please because it's true.

[I don't care if she was toxic or moving goalposts or whatever it is you claim she does, ]

Then you don't get to complain, if you're going to dismiss someone else's toxic actions and pretend they don't matter then you have no right to call me out. You're just being a hypocrite.

[She deleted her twitter to get away from you.]

No, she deleted her Twitter because she was a coward and couldn't handle being wrong.

[Should she have made post about you here? Probably not, no, ]

And yet she did it anyway, simply too pretend that she's somehow is the victim when she was the one who decided to keep pushing in a desperate need to hate a rider who was just doing his job.

[ even if that was when she wanted to try and make amends.]

Bullshit. If you wanted to make a man she would have actually apologized, not try to Gaslight me into feeling bad for her.

[You wanna say she's toxic? Fine. Whatever. But don't fucking stalk her.]

If she wanted to be left alone then she shouldn't have posted about me on Tumblr just because she's mad over losing an argument and running off at the coward she is. But she did anyway, and I responded in kind, if you got a problem with that? That's no one's fault but her own. The fact that she managed to manipulate you into becoming her personal light night is beyond pathetic and you should feel ashamed of yourself for falling for it.