#I have seen a lot of opinions on this matter

[hearthpoetry]

hello, crisis hotline. how're you doing today?

hi, i'm feeling stressed.

i'm sorry to hear that.

what's worrying you?

too much.

it's just my kids.

they haven't talked to me much in years.

just enough to keep things civil.

i just can't think of what i did wrong.

sounds like you care about your family a lot.

i do.

it's just.

everyone is too sensitive these days.

that's what i think.

is there anything else bothering you today?

yeah, have you seen what's been going on on the news?

yes, unfortunately.

i mean. could you imaging your daughter having to share a locker room with a man?

it's ridiculous!

these transgenders have no right trying to convince us that they're girls or-

i'm sorry to cut you off.

(the feeling in my chest right now.)

(it's telling me there's danger.)

(it's telling me i need to leave any way i can.)

(this isn't what i'm supposed to do.)

(this isn't what I'm supposed to do.)

  (this isn't what i'm supposed to do.)

   (i'm here to help.)

    (no matter what.)

(i need to protect myself.)

(but i'm a service for him.)

(remember what they say.)

i'm sorry to interrupt, sir.

(you have to be vulnerable always.)

i need to inform you that you're speaking to a trans woman who is very uncomfortable with this discussion.

(show him kindness.)

if you'd like to discuss something else that's bothering you sir, i'd be more than happy to talk about it.

(this isnt what i'm supposed to do.)

(this isn't what i'm supposed to do.)

(this isn't what i'm supposed to do.)

   (i have a right to be angry.)

   (i have a right to be hostile.)

otherwise, i'm going to have to end this call.

(breathe)

(god, breathe, please!)

(my chest feels like i'm going to explode.)

(this hurts.)

(i might die if i don't run away.)

(i might throw up if i have to keep talking to him.)

(it's not just a difference in political opinion to think i'm some sort of sex offender.)

(it's an act of war.)

well, i-

click

(this isn't what i'm supposed to do.)

(this isn't what i'm supposed to do.)

  (this isn't what i'm supposed to do.)

    (breathe.)

     (breathe.)

customer service voice training

hearth, 11/4/2024

[ameliaenya404]

can I have a scenario where Tomura just meets his cousins sweet little girlfriend, and at first, he hates her, but she’s just so pretty, and soon, he ends up falling for her.

(Can be SFW or NSFW)

Oooo I like this 💗💗💗

Tomura was never a fan of 'family'. Other than the pointless Christmas party he never really interacted with his extended family except for his cousin. He didn't even really like his cousin, to be honest, he was just someone Tomura tolerated because he was good at video games. He'd come over every week or so, and he and Tomura would sit down and play for a while in the basement.

The basement was finished and large, it had a variety of consuls and a large TV, a shitty torn-up couch with the stuffing coming out, and a mini fridge with plenty of beer.

His cousin usually came over with nothing more than himself and a six-pack of beer as a peace offering. That was until he brought you along. So quiet and polite, your hands clasped in front of you as you greeted him sweetly. Tomura was irked when he first met you, because why were you even there in the first place? You couldn't play for shit probably and he was overall annoyed someone else would be crashing in on his fun.

But he let you stay, against his own judgement. You sat on the couch watching them play. You were atleast quiet so he wasn't too annoyed by your presence.

He had a particular hatred for couples. But it was different when his cousin's hand lingered on your thigh or you gave him sweet kisses after he won a round. It wasn't a usual sense of hating for the sake of hating, it was...Jealousy?

You were pretty, he'd give you that. And everytime his cousin -not so discreetly- felt you up when he thought Tomura wasn't looking, he wished he was the one touching you instead. The one playing with the little bows on your stockings, the one getting a kiss on his cheek whenever he won a round, the one going home with you and having his way with you.

He felt crazy, but every time you came over the feelings got worse and worse.

He'd never been alone with you, that is until the mini fridge ran out of drinks.

His stupid cousin offered to run to the store 20 minutes away and come back with more to stock up the fridge, leaving you and Tomura alone in silence. The game paused, both of you sitting on the couch a mere inch away.

Your hands were in your lap, playing and nervously tugging on the white lace of your skirt. He wanted so badly to flip that skirt up, pull you onto his lap, and- NO. He was going crazy with you just sitting there. The sweet scent of your perfume makes him dizzy.

"So...you have a really nice house," the silence is broken with your sweet voice. Tomura had almost forgotten he didn't live in a vacuum, you'd seen the rest of his house when you had to go upstairs to use the bathroom. You had opinions, thoughts, and such. His house was nice he supposed, his family was well-off. He didn't put a lot of thought into it, it didn't matter to him.

Oh he had to respond didn't he?

"Um thanks,"

Wow real smooth Tomura.

He never talked to girls. Especially pretty ones like you. It made him nervous, and itchy. He didn't realize his nails were clawing into the flesh of his neck until you let out a small sound when blood started dripping from his neck and staining the couch.

"Oh...um...let me go get something for that!" You got up, running up the stairs to the upstairs bathroom. Your voice didn't hold any judgment, just slight concern. It was cute, the nervousness in your voice. Adorable even.

You came back down with the shitty first aid kit that he knew his family kept under the bathroom sink. You sat next to him, so incredibly close. He could feel your breath against his skin as you lifted his hair away from his neck. You squeaked out a small apology as you wiped the slightly deep scratch marks with an alcohol wipe. It stung but it wasn't anything he wasn't used to.

He watched as you fumbled through the first aid kit, grabbing a couple bandaids and carefully placing them over the scratches.

Tomura watched as you hesitated before gently kissing right over the bandaid on his neck. You glanced up at him through your lashes and before you could do something stupid, the front door opened and footsteps came down the stairs.

You and Tomura quickly separated to opposite sides of the couch and you shoved the first aid kit under a pillow. Your boyfriend, his dumb cousin comes down with a smile and drinks in his hand. Giving you a small kiss that made Tomura agitated all over again. Although he could see you hesitantly return the kiss, the fact you hesitated at all gave him slight consultation.

He make you his eventually. He was going to anyway but now that he knew you were already a little sweet on him, it'd make it so much easier.

He'd just have to make your boyfriend leave a little more often.

[carinavi5]

I can't do anything to help those in Valencia, but I at least want to say my opinion.

I don't live close enough to go offer my help, and I can't really donate right now. I don't have a car and I live pretty far away from the city, which is where the main points to collect food, water and clothes are at.

But I'm seeing so much help from the rest of the Spaniards. Giant amounts of food and water being sent that way, and an even bigger amount of Valencians or people that live nearby walking to the most affected places carrying food, water and clothes, and shovels, brooms, buckets and whatever they each had in their home that could be used to help. Seeing all those people, all those volunteers, helping is heartwarming. Good people do exist. Solo el pueblo salva al pueblo. Only the village saves the village.

I want to clarify all this people are going there walking or biking because they aren't use the roads to not oversaturate them.

Now, let's being. What has happened?

Before: The day before AEMET, the State Meteorology Agency, had been giving warnings and updating their social media and all that saying that this was big, that what was coming was gonna be catastrophic. But nonetheless, no official warnings where given by the state. School and work was all continuing as before. No kind of informational help was sent to the people.

During: Rain. A shit ton of rain. A years worth of rain in 8 hours. Even in the places with no rain the effects are catastrophic, the rivers have caused floodings, and the cities, towns and villages have all been covered by meters of water. I don't know how much.

The water rises in minutes, is fast, and with no warning no one was prepared. People were off to work, continuing with their every day life, now trapped wherever the flood caught them. Many others had gone to their garages to try and get their cars out when they saw that they were starting to flood. And many people have died in them, trapped. Don't blame these people, no kind of warning of how big this was gonna be was given, cars are a very big economical investment for the families and, again, the water rises too fast to really do much.

Cars and all kind of big, sharp and heavy crap being dragged by the water. That water also contaminated (by what the river in itself had, the liquids that came from inside the cars and other places, and now by the decomposing organic matter), so those inevitably swimming in it were in great danger for many reasons.

Think about the animals too. Ah, and also, no light nor electricity while all this was going on.

I've seen people on social media saying how it all went for them. I'm not gonna say their individual stories, but if you look them up, you'll be able to find them.

Immediately after: The people went to different stores to try and get food, water and medicine. All this stores were already broken and had been affected by the floodings. And still some newspapers (you know who you are) were trying to put shame on this people. Yes, I guess some people could have used the commotion to steal from houses or jewelry stores or whatever, but it wasn't the case of what they were showing, and it's not what the vast majority of people where doing.

Many others were out looking for their missing relatives. Some started to walk towards the big city nearby, to find some help. The conditions of the streets were apocalyptic.

A bit more time after: What I've said at the beginning. The affected throwing out the things inside their house that were too damaged by the water. Still no food, water or electricity. The roads blocked by the residues of what the water had dragged. Lots of mud everywhere. And the good people going there to offer their help. To clean the streets and their houses.

More or less right now: Other parts of Spain and even other countries offer help and resources. And the government of Valencia (Carlos Mazón is called the president) refuses that help. It took too long for the military to be sent to this places, I still haven't seen any news or information of them there (3 Nov. The military are not there yet), but they are advising the volunteers not to go help, that theres no need anymore and that they are making it harder for the "actual help" to go. Lies. There's no emergency services help, no policemen, firefighters or military helping. And not because they don't want to, the help they offer is being rejected. They are refusing outside help. I'm not gonna say my opinion, but you try and think why the government wouldn't want to let outsiders to see what had happened.

Cleaning all that mud is so hard. All the help is appreciated. With proper equipment and machinery this would be easier.

Who to blame: The government. Some say the one from the whole Spain, some say the one from Valencia. I don't care. But they didn't help. None of them. Not only did they CHOSE not to warn the people, but they had cut down the budget for the emergency services and gave it to bullfighting instead. Right now the number of deaths is at 159, but there are still hundreds of disappeared people, and I've heard from too many people that it's just not true. Those living in those places say they see dead people as they walk around the street, those working closer with the deceased are saying that the numbers are much higher, the research parties saying how certain places are almost cemeteries. I've just heard this, so don't take me too seriously as I genuinely don't know much. But I rather believe the people helping than the government that very clearly doesn't care.

And, I mean, this rains are pretty obviously one of the consecuences of climate change and how little those in power and with the ability to do things properly care.

But if you don't want to blame rain on anyone, at least blame how they handled it.

Blame Carlos Mazón.

I feel awful for not being able to help. Once I'm back in the city I study, I'll try and see if I can do something. I'll at least go to the protest, which I am pretty sure is gonna happen. I really hope it happens. I don't have much money myself, I wish I could go offer my work. I feel like I'm just saying excuses to not help. All I can do is talk about it, but I'm not even someone with influence. I'm also thinking, I'm studying pedagogy. Would there be a need for the kind of help I can offer? For future events like this I think there should be preparation, like there is in case of a fire. Could I help with that? Maybe? I feel useless. I don't want to stay here, comfortably, as others suffer.

Update (3nov): The king, queen, president of Spain and president of Valencia have gone to one of the affected places, Paiporta. I don't know why they are there, they are obviously not helping with the manual labor. I've seen some stuff around, I don't know what's really going on so for now I don't say anything. But the people were screaming at them and throwing stuff.

[teamfortresstwo]

Okay, I still do disagree with these points, though seeing it from Odysseus’s perspective does make sense why he might not see Eurylochus as close as others on this list .

My thoughts are that, I don’t think neither we as the audience are meant to nor does Odysseus view Eurylochus wanting to leave Circe’s island as equally morally reprehensible to Scylla’s lair. Odysseus says they should try to save them, but I think people are meant to recognize that this is ultimately a very idealistic way of looking at things, spurred on by him still clinging to the few people he has left in the wake of losing a close friend to him. The fact that it works out is luck, and it’s not something anyone could’ve predicted with the information they had at the time. Scylla’s cave was something Odysseus knew was going to happen.

Also, Eurylochus has a role as the voice of the crew. He’s essentially obligated to listen to them, which is why I think he does a lot of the things he does. Even if he might understand why Odysseus does what he does, if the crew disagrees, then he cannot allow it to continue. Even if it’s rational, even if he would’ve done the same, he doesn’t get that decision and he doesn’t think Odysseus should either. Maybe if Odysseus told the crew what was going on they would’ve agreed with the sacrifice or come up with something else or even straight up given up, but that wasn’t a choice Odysseus should’ve taken away from them, and I think that’s the part that causes Eurylochus so much rage.

I think this is also part of why Eurylochus chooses to have his confrontation out in the open. I wouldn’t say he’s planting seeds of doubt, so much as he’s voicing the doubt that’s already there. Because while I think he would handle personal matters in private, this isn’t a personal matter. It’s not between him and Odysseus, but Odysseus and the crew. If the crew needs to have their doubts quelled by the captain, someone must be willing to voice those doubts. That’s why I think the wind bag situation ultimately happened. There was so much tension with no productive way of resolving it because Odysseus had practically silenced all doubt.

Having said all that, I also know that the point of the poll was which of these characters Odysseus sees as his best friend. While I can justify his actions left and right, I can’t deny they hurt Odysseus.

But I still stand by the fact that Eurylochus was his best friend. Because yes, despite the self isolation, despite the breaking of trust, despite flat out ignoring eachother on multiple occasions, they are practically the only people the other really has for the majority of the musical. Polites dies early on, Athena leaves, Hermes isn’t here practically at all, we haven’t even seen Penelope yet, but Eurylochus is a constant presence.

A lot of Eurylochus’s actions are motivated by his concern for Odysseus- him opening the bag was, in my opinion, done both because of the urging of the crew and his concern for his friend. Him wanting to leave Circe’s island was because he didn’t want to endanger his friend.

And Odysseus in turn shows great affection for Eurylochus- “There’s no length I wouldn’t go, if it was you I had to save.” And the ways that even after he basically tells Eurylochus to shut up and fall in line, he doesn’t even scold him when he goes against that command. He settles his friend’s worries to the best of his ability because he still cares about him.

It’s only after monster, when Odysseus basically throws away any attachment he has to anyone that isn’t his wife and son that their friendship truly starts to fall apart, but at that point I doubt any of Odysseus’s relationships could’ve survived . (Except for Penelope, ofc.) Eurylochus is stuck doing his job, putting the crew above everything else, and Odysseus is stuck with his self preservation, putting getting home above everything else. And yeah, even at this point in time, when everything sucks so fucking bad, they care about eachother.

Odysseus tries to stop Eurylochus from eating the cow out of concern for his friend. Odysseus is clearly absolutely wrecked by the loss of his friend. And Eurylochus is so resigned because he does understand Odysseus. And, in my opinion again since a lot of music is subjective even relative to most art, in his voice, I can detect no blame. He’s just tired, and he’s come to terms with death. And I dont think he blamed Odysseus for his decision, or was angry about it. In the end, they both forgave eachother, because they did care for eachother, and neither wanted to spend their last moments together in hatred. The tragedy is that it didn’t matter, and they were doomed anyways.

So yeah um . I still don’t know if this is cohesive but . That’s basically why I think out of everyone listed, Eurylochus is still the best candidate to be Odysseus’s best friend of the given options, at least at this point in the story, given the things we know.

[wield-the-mighty-pen]

To specify (because there is a character limit in polls), I am asking if it’s okay for consumers of your work to leave comments with criticism of the show and also if you are okay with people leaving comments with constructive criticism of your work

If you can, specify what type of creator you are in the tags!

[cdroloisms]

a little ramble about dreblr, meta, and the ever evolving nature of this fandom, i guess?

i don't mean to soapbox, this is mostly just going to be vomiting some thoughts into a post. some recent stuff and a post or two have had me thinking about this fandom and how different it is from when dsmp was ongoing. it's,, pretty obvious that the fandom is quite a bit smaller and less active than that time, and there are generally a lot fewer people actively posting meta and such every day--which isn't necessarily a bad thing, and is natural obviously considering that the dsmp ended almost 2 years ago, but does mean that the culture around (?) meta and such has shifted, as well. it's one of those things too i think that is felt so much more obviously in dreblr, which is an even smaller group within this fandom that formed in response to uhhh being very much considered unwelcome by the greater fandom at the time.

that being said, as is the nature of all fandom, dreblr is still a community of people who are largely strangers who have gathered together because of one commonality: very strong feelings and often very strong opinions on the dream smp and c!dream. and i think when the fandom was more active, the entire fandom felt a lot more like a "pvp enabled" zone, lmao -- it was every other day when there'd be some new batshit meta about c!dream or some stream to react to and analyze and fight people about and whatever. since then, though, with the dsmp gone, the fandom has become quieter -- which i think has allowed some of the variation in opinions within dreblr become more and more obvious? and also become a sort of source of friction.

again, this is normal for any fandom. i'm certainly not here to agree with everyone about c!dream always, lmao. but the vagueing of takes is always more awkward on both sides when it's someone where you share more of the same circles. at the end of the day, it's up to each individual blogger's discretion to choose what they will or won't post on their own blog, but at the same time ... when it comes to the community, just speaking for myself, i don't want a super high barrier of entry when it comes to people feeling like they can't join this fandom unless they've got [xyz] experience or [xyz] takes.

when it comes to actual analysis of the source material, though, keeping meta a safe place for people to say "no, i don't agree with this take because of [xyz]" is important as well, which always raises the question of how said disagreements should be handled. and again, i'm no authority, i'm not here to tell people what to do. personally, when it comes to my own blog, i don't like to post very much directly about any one blogger, but I know I've definitely written posts inspired by specific takes before as well as screenshots of takes from the fandom's heyday, etc. i don't necessarily feel uncomfortable with this ...? but at the same time, i know that vagueposts can be a source of discomfort, especially if they're about your take in particular (speaking from experience) -- so it's you know. not the easiest line to draw, I guess, especially when we're talking about a community where different people are going to have different levels of comfort with what they post on their own blogs and what other blogs do in response to their takes. and whatever.

vagueposting, i think, has been common in the tumblr dsmp fandom for a long time, and especially in dreblr -- direct engagement in the past errr usually went badly, so a habit formed of keeping everything we did kind of within our own spaces (hence why many of us don't even tag c!dream or even dreblr on most of our posts; keeping everything untagged, or keeping the tagging system restricted to our own blogs, limited the possibility of trouble). that being said, vagueing within dreblr has become more common, i think, as disagreements within dreblr have become more and more obvious in the time since the dsmp ended. (just for the obvious example: i think it's a bit of an open secret that i, personally, strongly disagree with much of the common depictions of c!drunz in this fandom. i've written some meta about this before, as well as some responses to meta--which i enjoyed greatly, believe me--but i've also noticed (perhaps coincidence) an uptick in c!drunz positive meta every time i or someone else makes a post that maybe skews more negative. which is normal, don't get me wrong, but also a pattern i've noticed. i'm also very aware that someone the arguments i may bring up as counterarguments or structure my posts around arguing against are based on actual arguments i've seen while in this space, which i'm aware is an easy source of friction within dreblr.) and it's easy to say "don't take it personally when it's just metaanalysis," but that's easier said than done, lmao, especially depending on the tone of the vaguepost and a myriad of other factors.

i'm not saying that i have the answers. or, for that matter, a single answer. the boundaries i set aren't going to be the same as the boundaries other people set, for one, and i have no desire to police what other people do on their own blogs. i do miss, sometimes, the more collaborative and discussion-based meta experience of this fandom when it was more active--i might try to more actively reblog posts (including those i don't necessarily agree with) to discuss this server and these characters, bc at the end of the day that is kind of why we're here. personally, i've always drawn a pretty sharp distinction between fanwork and analysis -- i think it's pretty bad form to criticize people's AUs In General (not that i've not. been guilty of it in the past, but i try at least to keep it to criticizing more general patterns within fanwork; look, i'm not going to claim a moral high ground, i love bitching way too much and should probably get a handle on that but asj;lkfdsaf) but when we're talking meta about the source material, barring shit like. you know, harassment and otherwise abusive behavior, i do consider it more of a free-for-all. at the same time, i know that these standards can lead to newer fans feeling like they're going to be booed out the door for sharing their thoughts, which, i mean, isn't great 😭😭😭 fresh eyes can bring a lot of really cool new insights, and it'd suck pretty damn bad to miss that because they don't feel welcome, yknow?

anyway, this is a very inconclusive post, but i thought i'd just throw some of my thoughts out as someone who has been here for a decently long time. and if you want to discuss w/ me, inbox and dms are always open :)

[lurafita]

Things I wish the Shadowhunters TV show hadn't done, part 2

(Again, there are a few of those, but I'm limiting myself to only 2 things that are Magnus and Malec centric and struck a nerve with me)

I'm aware that this one is a very unpopular opinion. And it's not exclusive to the Shadowhunter series, as many series and movies have made use of this plot point and I have never liked it, but it is somehow widely popular so it keeps getting used...

Anyway, the deal Alec made with Asmodeus to get Magnus' magic back.

Give up your relationship/Break their heart to save them.

- This is something that has been used in many stories, by many characters, in many different situations.

I hate it.

It is framed as this noble sacrifice, this selfless gesture.

But I can't find it anything else but patronizing and demeaning.

I'm not blaming Alec the character for it, because as stated, this is something that has been around for a long time and gets used a lot.

But let me try to explain why I don't like it using Alec and Magnus' situation as an example.

When Magnus gave up his magic to save Jace (and by extention save Alec), he gave up something that was his and his alone. This was Magnus' decision alone to make. When Alec gave up their relationship, he made a decision that affected two people. This wasn't something that he alone gave up, but rather forced Magnus to give up the same. Had Asmodeus asked for Alec's runes, for example, that would have been a price that Alec, and Alec alone, had the right to make a decision on giving up.

And now some will say "But Alec wasn't given the option to pay with anything else but to break Magnus' heart. And Asmodeus said it would kill Magnus to not have his magic." And yes, that's true, but that doesn't change the crux of the matter. Magnus chose to give up his magic, when it was either that, or Jace's life. He then chose to not chase other methods of getting his magic back, to live with Alec after Lorenzo's magic transfer almost killed him. And yes, he was struggling and grieving, but that is to be expected. Alec witnessed one breakdown and decided that Magnus would never recover.

People don't recover from trauma because others break their hearts to get them "fixed". They recover from trauma because the people in their lives support them and stay with them and love them.

And let's just say for arguments sake, that the deal had gone over with as originally intended. Look at it from a later point of view.

Alec breaks Magnus' heart, Magnus gets his magic back.

Is all well now? No. Of course not.

One of Magnus' greatest fear was that he was unworthy of love, if he didn't have magic, if he couldn't be useful.

That his magic was the only thing that made up his spark.

And, in order to fulfill Asmodeus deal and break Magnus' heart, Alec enforced those believes.

Alec can walk away from this whole mess with the knowledge that he lied in order to get Magnus' magic back and Magnus would in time recover. Magnus on the other hand has just had his worst fear confirmed, and will likely not recover from it.

Again, this is not an attempt to bash Alec. I do not blame his character for the writers choices with the story line.

This is just my opinion on this particular matter and why I wish it hadn't been done at all

[sonknuxadow]

I’m honestly surprised that people are saying Keanu reeves is a bad choice despite the popular fan discussions about it. Where I’m at in the internet, he’s considered a good choice and people were excited.

i cant speak for everyone obviously but ive always thought he was a bad choice for shadow ever since the idea started going around 2 years ago. because from what ive heard personally he doesnt really sound like shadow + i hate it when big movie stars are given voice acting roles in movie adaptations just to have a big name attached to the project even if theyre not good for the role. and this definitely feels like that. back in the day people were only saying he should be shadow NOT because his voice actually fits but because hes an edgy action guy or whatever and movie sonic is canonically a fan of him/his movies and they could make jokes out of that. and i feel like thats Still what a lot of peoples reasoning is which annoys me because shadow isnt just an edgy action guy and i dont think his voice should be chosen based on a joke of all things especially if the voice isnt fitting enough to justify it

not gonna say my opinion is the most popular but i know that there are a lot of people who agree with me on this, or at the very least are unsure about it. a lot of people dont want him

[ubejamjar]

Tim Burton's Sweeney Todd is weak because they didn't let Johanna shoot Mr. Foggs. Give Johanna the gun Anthony.

[athene-owl]

Look, I like Ghibli stuff but I'm not super involved in the fandom so maybe someone more knowledgeable has spoken about this BUT.....the way some of y'all talk about Hayao's son Goro is flat out gross and weird as fuck. You absolutely NEED to take Hayao off of whatever pedestal you've put him on and stop making your funny little memes about how his mistreatment of his son/family is OK because you don't like Goro's films. This is just like basic decency???

[yomigaere]

fandom please stop having bad takes about Shiori and Juri challenge (BLOODY IMPOSSIBLE)

[oobi-oobi-rambles]

As a member of the LGBTQIA+ community, I would like to wish a very fuck you to anyone who believes its okay to gatekeep the queer experience

[berrymeter]

i'll be honest i didn't even process the homophobia in paprika as such bc all of it was expressed by a character who turned out to be the villain's henchman, & maybe that's on me but like, it really did not hit me like that at all.

it was a lot of background details, but it did hit me on the second rewatch that osanai doesn't yell at paprika for bringing up himuro bc he feels guilty about himuro's comatose-dead state but bc he's disgusted himuro liked him. osanai is not shown as a sympathetic character again from the moment you learn he's working against the protagonists, and frankly he's not too sympathetic either before then - at least if you don't trust him, everything he does & says comes across as him potentially becoming a problem later. again, on the second rewatch, i was able to retroactively notice another part that showcased that 'homophobia' mentioned by that person ; when they visit himuro's place & there are men's magazines all around his house, to which osanai makes a grossed out face (on first watch i thought it was more exasperation due to the previous fatphobia & general infantilisation of the fat characters).

the thing though, is that the messiness of the room, the 'gross' aspect, it doesn't hinge on the fact himuro is gay as much as it does on the fact he's fat. and it's weird to pinpoint homophobia without mentioning the glaring elephant in the room. they do the same shit to tokita! it's the exact same shit and tokita is straight as far as anyone's concerned! idk, tokita & himuro fit into a certain view of the 'nerd' that a lot of people hold, & the magazines are frankly the least of our problems with that view! if you want my opinion, the only reason tokita escaped the magazines treatment was that he was infantilised enough to not even be allowed the ability to be sexual. everyone constantly insists on how he's "a genius with the mind of a child". the fatphobia is absolutely paprika's biggest problem & it pisses me off someone would say the HOMOPHOBIA puts them off. like?! did we watch the same movie??

[crescentmp3]

can't believe i have a communist relative by the way. in Turkey

[byanyan]

being friends with byan is so weird bc they say they want you to have the balls to be bluntly honest with them, but then the very moment you're honest about something they don't like, they're peacing out, all "lmao ok friendship ended byeeeee"

[arosnowflake]

[Timmy Turner voice] I wish every Links Meet AU that uses Marin as a phantom to haunt and traumatize Link goes to hell no matter what