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okay so when reading the final chapter of svsss volume three, the interactions between yue qingyuan and tianlang-jun are soâ
Shen Qingqiu wanted to say something when Tianlang-Jun raised his chin, squinting at Yue Qingyuan. âI remember you.â After thinking for a bit, he said with conviction, âBack then, the Huan Hua Palaceâs old geezer wanted you to help him with the ambush, but you ignored him. So youâre the current sect leader of Cang Qiong Mountain? Not bad.â âYour distinguished selfâs memory is also quite good.â Tianlang-Jun smiled and smiled, then gave a sigh. âIf you were also trapped in a pitch-back darkness for over ten years, unable to glimpse the sky or sun, with nothing to pass the days but for reminiscing over past affairs, your memory would be quite good as well.â
tianlang-jun remembered him, and while yes, it's clear he has a pretty good memory and might also be using it as a way to throw his potential enemy off-balance, it is still a very interesting way to go about it. and the rejoinder yue qingyuan sends back at him, perfectly polite - even respectful! - totally unflappableâtell me you do not see the potential there!!
but never fear, if you are not yet convinced, i have more:
Tianlang-Jun continued to sit upon his stone, completely at ease. âI remember that you also waited until the last moment to draw your sword that day,â he said to Yue Qingyuan. âDoing the same now?â Yue Qingyuan didnât answer.
tianlang-jun remembered a lot about yue qingyuan, even small details like his sword, and the actions he took (or didn't) upon the day of tianlang-jun's betrayal. to me, this reads as though, even then, he took note of yue qingyuan's power as something to look out for. he is also, despite all of the other people around, primarily engaging in conversation with yue qingyuan.
Tianlang-Jun pulled his hand back and smiled. âHonestly, in the beginning I had no malice, nor did I find fun in the idea of the world burning. I only occasionally crossed the border, coming here to sing songs or read booksâit was quite nice. However, since Iâve already been in residence beneath Bai Lu Mountain for so many years, if I donât follow through on something along the lines of your thoughts, Iâd truly find my circumstances a bit too unjustified.â Yue Qingyuan flicked his finger. Xuan Su sprang three inches from its sheath, its spiritual energy seething. The bones of Tianlang-Junâs body cracked and popped, almost like his joints had been dislocated. He made a sound of surprise. âAs expected of a sect leader. Not bad. Your master was quite mediocre but had quite the eye for disciples and successors.â
okay first of all, the tension here is remarkable, and second of all, the compliment at the endâtianlang-jun, for the power level we know he possesses, is being practically effusive with his praise of yue qingyuan's strength something we know to be greatly prized by demons.
this segment follows the previous directly, but i had to give it it's own spotlight, for reasons that i hope will be readily apparent:
Then Tianlang-Jun reached out and grabbed Xuan Suâs blade directly, as if he couldnât feel a thing. âBut why not draw it all the way?â he said with a smile. âYou canât do anything to me with only this much.â Yue Qingyuanâs gaze hardened, and Xuan Su jumped another half-inch from its sheath.
tianlang-jun: oho, you'll need more than that much to handle me, big guy
(jokes aside, considering the rampant spiritual energy of xuan su, described as so powerful as to be oppressive in volume 2, and the susceptibility of demons to spiritual energy, tianlang-jun is truly doing the absolute Most⢠right now.)
... moving decidedly away from jokes now, this is one of the most pivotal lines for them, in my opinion. it comes at the conclusion of wu chen's reveal of the betrayal-that-wasn't, and how su xiyan chose death over bringing harm to tianlang-jun, only for it to find him regardless:
âIt wasnât that she didnât care about you, but that she was without alternative. Yet the world is pitiless, and so you passed each other byâŚâ Tianlang-Junâs lips seemed to tremble slightly. A long moment passed. Then he said, âIs that so?â Right after those three words, he asked again, âTruly?â âThis one swears upon his life that his words contain not a single falsehood,â said Master Wu Chen. Tianlang-Jun turned his head to look at Shen Qingqiu and Yue Qingyuan. As if seeking confirmation, he asked, âTruly?â He didnât even care whether someone was in the know; he was just asking anyone he could. Unable to say anything, Yue Qingyuan silently lowered his head. It was unclear what he thought.
it is clear that the tragedy of su xiyan and tianlang-jun was one that yue qingyuan felt keenly, not only for his response here, clearly processing some significant emotion, but also for the way that he used the same words to describe his relationship with shen jiu just a short time later:
âI reallyâŚdidnât mean to not return,â said Yue Qingyuan. âOnly, it really is true that the world is pitiless, and so the two of us passed each other byâŚâ
pardon me while a cry a new freshwater body into existence.
there is truly so much more that can be said about what makes these two a great fit for each other, especially in a canon-adjacent/post-canon scenario, but i'll save that for another day. for now, i will let these excerpts speak for themselves.
#svsss#meta#my meta#i love them your honor#like truly they are SO complementary AUGH#tianyue#tianlang jun#yue qingyuan#tlj#yqy
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Thinking here and... I'm one of who believes that Jun Wu has very similar attitudes to those of sexual abusers.
He has been obsessed with Xie Lian's virginity since his first ascension, so much so that he took him to the land of tenderness to be poisoned with an aphrodisiac;
He has a sword that tests people's virginity?? And of course he used it on Xie Lian;
The calm speech, the intimacy, the way he acts as if everything is normal and praising Xie Lian's growth too... Um, you know, it's very common for sexual abusers to act so naturally towards their victims, even if he is recognized, he will act as if he even has the right to be intimate;
Jun Wu always tries to keep everyone away from Xie Lian and make Xie Lian move away from people too, or humiliate him in some way. For example, trying to make Xie Lian move away from Hua Cheng, wanting to make him believe that Hua Cheng isn't a good person and isn't worthy of his trust, making Xie Lian feel guilty and like someone lesser than him and is being disobedient.
For some people this may not be important, I'm not going to get into the discussion of "fiction x reality", "romanticization" etc., I have no interest in discussing it here, I don't want to know about it, cause I already have my own opinions.
However, for me it's important, this language is too violent for me, and it reflects a lot on my own experiences, which is why I end up thinking about these things a lot. Anyway.
#tgcf#xie lian#hua cheng#hualian#heaven official's blessing#hob#tian guan ci fu#crown prince of xianle#mxtx tgcf#crimson rain sought flower
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The way it has JUST dawned on me exactly why Mu Qing is so smug all the time about Xie Lian. The truth is that any time someone does something good for others, it ALWAYS comes back to bite them. Nobody is grateful, nobody is thankful, and most of the time you get physically hurt even trying. Mu Qingâs conclusion about this is âthere is literally no point in being a nice person because it will only get you hurt.â He sees this pattern and he knows heâs right, and he especially sees it with Xie Lian. Think about how fucking smug Fu Yao is in the sinners pit when he finds out about âGeneral Huaâ and Xie Lianâs âdeath.â This is just another instance of Xie Lianâs efforts for good only ever going to waste and him getting beat to death and back for thinking he can still save the common people. Whatâs his problem? Wonât this idiot ever learn his lesson? When he sees the dilapidated shrine and sad excuse for a living arrangement Mu Qing looks joyous. What joy could he possibly find in another manâs suffering? Itâs because it proves that trying to play good guy gets you nowhere. Mu Qing left all those years ago to focus on himself and it got him to a top martial god spot in heaven. Heâs clearly right about this! This proves it!
Itâs so obvious heâs right. If you want to get anywhere in life, you have to stop worrying about being âgoodâ or âkindâ because it will never bring you good returns. Thatâs trueâŚ.so why canât Xie Lian understand that? If every single time he gets kicked down for trying to do something nice, why bother getting up and trying again? What is he trying to accomplish?
The difference is that Xie Lian is kind not for the returns but because it is innate to him. Itâs not that he never thought about himself in the past, itâs just that heâs never had a second thought about people deserving kindness in the world. Getting shot down never breaks his spirit like it breaks Mu Qingâs. Mu Qing canât fucking stand that. He canât stand that Xie Lian is so genuinely selfless, that he was wrong about his perception of him all those years ago. He canât stand that Xie Lian is still trying to help him even though he knows he wonât appreciate it. If he really was only doing it for merit and to feel good about himself then everything would be fine! But now he has to grapple with the fact that heâs looking at a really, genuinely, good person and heâs just another person who shot him down. He realizes heâs looking at someone whoâs stronger than him, physically and emotionally, better than him morally, despite all his talk about how theyâre not that different when really theyâre leagues away.
(Some book 8 spoilers below)
It messed with the flow of the paragraph so I didnât mention it earlier, but in that second paragraph, Mu Qingâs mindset sounds a lot like Jun Wu. Jun Wu is trying to prove to Xie Lian that his path of kindness and selflessness is stupid and that when people knock him down he can choose the other (lesser) path. I always say That Mu Qing is like a foil to Xie Lian (I think this is that explanation) but if Jun Wu and Xie Lian are connected in this way then itâs almost reasonable to bring Mu Qing along too. And it makes sense that he doesnât shine as bright in this point of view between the three of them, just like he always has. Thereâs something here but it was a wake up in the middle of the night with a cold sweat and a revelation kind of thing so itâs not really fleshed out at all. Weâll deal with it later.
#it��s the juxtaposition between reading 10000 gods cave on my computer and banyue arc on my phone#tgcf#heaven official's blessing#tian guan ci fu#Mu Qing#xie lian
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Reading TGCF: Chapter 67

For those who don't know, I am reading TGCF for the first time and sharing my thoughts!
If you have not read it, there will be spoilers! Consider this a warning.
Also- if you want to follow along, I am aiming to post updates daily. You can find all the posts in the tag Bloopitynoot reads TGCF. You can also check out the intro post for context on my read BUT if you followed along with my SVSSS read, the rules and vibe are the same.

Today's drink of choice is hot water. I am going to the farmers market this morning and I need to be on my A game LOL.
Charlie update things for anyone interested (totally feel free to skip);
So we got a call from the vet quite late last night and totally expected the worst. BUT some good news- it is not lymphoma! We were really worried (and out vet as well) that it might have been lymphoma.
Instead they found that he has Neutrophilia (elevated white blood cells) and that paired with other tests left him with the diagnosis of a bacterial infection in his liver (or hepatitis) BUT the treatment is the same.
Our little guy has a slew of meds but we are hopeful he is on the mend. We were even told his blood work from yesterday showed his liver markers decreasing with the liver support medication he has been on as a precaution the last two weeks (he is no longer in liver failure!) though he is still yellow as hell.
This is much better news than we though <3 it'll be a lot of care work but the vet is hopeful he will get better.
okay now that I have shared the good good news; let's go chapter 67!

Wait, all the ghosts are affected? p273
I feel bad for Guzi going through it this entire time. This kid is going to be so traumatized and confused. p274
WAIT WAIT WAIT I HAVE SEEN THIS ART (points to cover dramatically). AH p276
Yeah, sure, it's the spiritual power, "Maybe it was because Hua Cheng's spiritual power was too potent, but Xie Lian felt filled to bursting by the warmth flowing down his throat, through his chest, and all the way in to his stomach" p277
I would argue that the altar is still a place to worship the divine- [points to cover art] exhibit A. No take backs, I am not wrong. ^-^ p278
My heart! One page Xie Lian is admitting his feelings for Hua Cheng to himself, the next page he is not truthful to Hua Cheng about what happened :( pp278-279
Oh damn. That's what that mountain means. p280

Feng Xin and Mu Qing fighting again. I have grown to love these two so much. The speed in which I will be reading their enemies to lovers/miscommunications fics when I am done reading this series will break the sound barrier. p281
I'm so damn annoyed. How did everyone Xie Lian apprehend (all the very dangerous ghosts) escape. When did this happen? Why is Jun Wu just telling them all now. Seems like a security issue. SO suspicious! pp282-283
I have my eye on Jun Wu
This guys seems suspicious as fuck. He's supposed to be the one in charge but he's done absolutely nothing and doesn't even seem to care about this security threat. VERY suspicious that 1. he didn't tell anyone these people escaped when they did or 2. that they all escaped under his watch at ONCE and he was so casual about it.
BUT ALSO I have lost track and need to know how many times in the past 48 hours these tow have made out but still believe it's unrequited.
#bloopitynoot reads tgcf#tgcf mxtx#tgcf spoilers#tgcf#heaven official's blessing#mxtx#xie lian#hua cheng#now kiss!#qi rong#I am watching you Jun Wu#You suspicious suspicious guy#ghost jailbreaks#an altar IS a holy place
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-SVSSS GODS AU- - u can choose if it's transmigration w sqh and sy or not..! - almost ALL characters roles explained + main story included.. asks about this au are welcome :> - TL;DR at the end!
Huge thanks to @happypeachsludgeflower for inspiring me with this bc of their one tag mentioning sy being a wisdom god and sqh being a creation god!!! they have amazing au's show them some love pleaseee!!!
Shen Yuan is the god of wisdom/knowledge. because of that title, he's popular, but he's rarely ever active so his follower count isn't as big as it could be. it's said that you have to be interesting enough to catch his eye, so it's common practice to dress up when in prayer to him, to offer him valuable things, etc. it seems he's liked creatures the best, but who knows. he's a relatively new god compared to the others.
Shang Qinghua is the god of creation. he's often very busy, but people pray to him when on creative endeavours or giving birth and such. if you catch his eye, he might write it in your fate for you to have good fortune- or eternal suffering. depends on what he's feeling, so some fear him. he was the first god - the one who made this world - so it's improper to pray to him about your hardships. he can often be seen with Mobei-jun because he's his favorite.
Mobei-jun is the god of precipitation/the ocean. yuh. he's very close with the god of creation and people often pray to him for good harvest, good travel, etc. due to his powers with rain and water and stuff. but he mainly controls icier domains, so people pray to him for the weather as well.
Shen Jiu is the god of misfortune and chance. Often prayed to when people want revenge, but that fuels his hatred even more. unlike the other gods, he's fundamentally "broken" in the way that he doesn't get power from followers, but negative emotion. people stay away from him because of that, but there are exceptions.
Liu Qingge is- you guessed it! the god of war/battle. people pray to him for strength and luck for those in the army and military victories.
Tianlang-jun is a fallen god who used to be in love with a mortal woman. he used to be the god of "love," but that devolved into something less positive as the years went on. he had a strong connection with the mortal realm, loving to learn about it, but after falling in love with Su Xiyan, he neglected his duties.....
Wu Yanzi used to be the god of destruction, having ascended based on his demonic acts and such. he was banished a few centuries later or whatever, but he took shen jiu in as a protege and helped him ascend.
Yue Qingyuan is also fundamentally broken, but everyone got over it. you see, it's basically a divine right to ascend; it's in your fate, you're born as one, or you're chosen. but yue qingyuan forced his way in by doing something w a sword. his lifeforce and power are stored in it, and it's used sparingly. he's known as the god of peace due to this fact, though it used to be more unsavory.
Mu Qingfang is the god of healing and health..! people pray to him for those things as well as help with plants due to his extensive fauna knowledge.
Likewise, most other gods have duties similar to those that they would have had in cang qiong mountain (all the peak lords are gods).
Huan Hua palace exists as a city, but it's in the mortal realm. people call it the city of gods because of it's gilded looks and high prosperity rates. gods seem to favor cultivators in this area as well. Gongyi Xiao is one of them!
Zhuzhi-lang is still half-snake but he resides closer to the underworld. he is still related to tlj and basically acts the same with tweaked origins...! but he interacts with gyx a lot more because of huan hua's attacks against the border of the underworld/mortal realm.
Most disciples (Ning Yingying, Ming Fan, etc.) are the god's deputies.
Where is Luo Binghe, you ask?
Luo Binghe is still the main character. He's the son of love god tlj and mortal woman sxy, but he doesn't know it. he's strong and heals fast and is good w a sword and is sexy and allat, but he's still abused and bullied by his peers. he's adopted by a poor washerwoman and prays every day to the gods above to change things-
he has bad feelings towards shen jiu because he feels as if it's his fault for pushing most of the misfortune in the world on lbh, in a way he's not wrong because wu yanzi and tlj were - well, they interacted closer than the other gods were with wu yanzi, and shen jiu silently cursed tlj bc of it. absentmindedly, maybe, possibly, but cursed nonetheless.
anyway- one day, his prayer is answered by the god of wisdom. they aren't supposed to mess with mortal affairs, but shen yuan does so anyway. however, he does this after the washerwoman died. after being shown hatred for so long, he has this weird relationship with sy - why show him kindness now and not sooner? but he's still eternally grateful.
Plot progresses and he has to go to the underworld or whatever to retrieve Xin Mo in order to do. something. anyway in the underworld resides mobei-jun, as that is his preferred domain, who is treated somewhat like a king bc of his godly status. tlj is also there as a fallen god, wu yanzi is locked up in there somewhere, coercing lbh and stuff.
as he's about to enter the underworld, shen yuan disguises himself as a mortal to be w him and guide him on his journey as he remembers who lbh was all those years ago when he showed him kindness. being a demigod and having what is basically aphrodite in his genes, he rizzes up many women and stuff, but only has eyes for shen yuan.
they do plot stuff in the underworld yada yada, sy fakes his own death because he has to attend to godly business.
lbh becomes king of the underworld in his absence, de-throning mbj who he tricked into what is the equivalent of signing him a contract. mbj basicallyyy works for him now even though he's technically more powerful.
THEN SY COMES BACK. miscommunication ensues, maybe i'll flesh this out more later idk.
BAREBONES PLOT!!! BUT EVERY CHARACTER WILL HAVE A ROLE EVEN IF THEY AREN'T INCLUDED IN THIS --- TL;DR: Gods!AU in which luo binghe prays every day for good fortune (blaming his bad conditions on shen jiu, the god of chances/misfortune) until his mother dies. after wandering around for a few months being homeless, sy (the god of wisdom) saves him/shows him kindness. With his help, he stands on his own two feet and continues his life.
Plot stuff has to happen as lbh is the son of tlj (ex god of love) and mortal woman sxy, so he ventures to the underworld to get legendary sword xin mo for plot reasons. shen yuan disguises himself as a mortal to help him, but fakes his own death bc of godly business he has to attend. lbh, distraught with grief, becomes cold and heartless. he forces precipitation!god mbj into what is essentially signing a contract to work for him and becomes a king/god of the underworld
then shen yuan COMES BACK. svsss-typical miscommunication and plot banter ensues. there's a lot of lore w other characters too if you're interested!! i might flesh this out later :)
#my rambles are great i swear#svsss#shen yuan#luo binghe#writing#fanfic#wrote this when i was supposed to be sleeping oopsie#scum villian self saving system#scum villain#scumbag system#scumbag self saving system#scumbag villain#mxtx#mxtx svsss#ren zha fanpai zijiu xitong#danmei#shen jiu#shen qingqiu#tianlang jun#yue qingyuan#mu qingfang#shang qinghua#mobei jun#liu qingge#wu yanzi#zhuzhi lang#gongyi xiao#su xiyan#ning yingying#ming fan
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Classical Music AU
So i'm planning a TGCF Classical Music AU! I have a long fic plan, a long project for it! (The plan is to start posting the fic in May. đ¤đ¤)
Since this project passionate me a lot, I really want to share some of my thought before getting into it.
I went with my own orchestra experience. Classical music was (and still is) part of my life, and I played in orchestras. "who is gonna play what"
Going with the vibes, the stereotypes, the aesthetic, or the ârelationâ of the instrument together, to give a whole that is somewhat fitting
Instruments
Xie Lian: Violin. As the main instrument. Known to be the one to guide the cue, known to be classical. It's really a central instrument in a symphonic orchestra. Often the melody, the first chair... So as the protag, for me it fits.
Hua Cheng: Piano. I feel piano works well for him. Piano is very versatile and can do a lot; participate in the orchestra, but also on the solo level. Often, a soloist is going to play with a piano and not a full orchestra. And I felt, as part of the fic is for Hua Cheng and Xie Lian to do a solo.
In addition, HuaLian is going to be the main couple of the fic, and this dynamic is very important for me. There is one official art where XL is playing the piano, and HC the violin... but I personally prefer the other way around; the piano is the assistance, while the soloist is the one to shine in the duo. HC would want to add to XL, but for XL to shine, to be the one who is on the spotlight, while he's doing his utmost so people "worship" him. So this is why I preferred XL with the soloist role, and HC in the accompaniment.
Jun Wu: Violin too. It's central to the fic. He is violinist, he knows exactly what XL does. He is even Xl's private teacher, helping him to improve in his play. He knows the instrument perfectly, and he is himself a professional and expert known in the domain, even though he doesn't perform anymore. Plus, for the orchestra, he's the maestro; and a lot of maestro are musician initially
Mu Qing: Also Violin. I really like the parallel with Xie Lian, and I feel it would fit him too. He would be really good, impressive, but still behind Xie Lian in the domain, still not the first chair. Really able to play the same piece as Xie Lian, still very good, Xie Lian wouldn't consider him less at all, but himself would still be lower and it will affect him.
Feng Xin French Horn. Honestly, I just really see him play a brass instrument, and I think the softest of them is the french horn. And I do think brass fits Feng Xin, but the "i'm the center of attention" as some other brass tend to sound like, it is less him.
Ling Wen: Tuba. The Heaven was in CHAOS without her... and I heard an ensemble without tuba and it feels so empty, it feels like it has no foundation and for Lingwen... It fits to be the base of foundation. Not standing out, but without her, everyone is fuck*d.
Pei Ming: Trumpet. He likes to be seen. He likes to be heard. He's cool, he has the confidence... and it's legit the nice thing about the Turmpet. It will take its place, it will be heard often. Pei Ming fits the description.
Shi Qingxuan: The flute. Honestly, it's really about the style. I think they fit well with the flute, as it's an important instrument. Often, the flute musician I know are people with confidence, and very friendly, liking to talk, and SQX fit that image very well. Getting along with everyone.
He Xuan: Oboe. The oboe has a very nice style, that I really like. I like the instrument and I thought it would fit He Xuan.
Shi Wudu: Clarinet. I think the clarinet is "the" wood, from my own orchestra experience. It will be the instrument giving the tone for the other winds (legit, the first violin plays the A, strings checked their tuning. And then violin will let the clarinet give the tuning for the winf after) so it's kinda "the first violin of the wind section" and it does fit Shi Wudu.
To go a bit deeper here: Shi Wudi/Shi Qingxuan/He Xuan all three have some... fucked up relationshipss. And them being the 3 principal wood wind instrument felt fitting. Flute/Oboe, Flute/Clarinet and Clarinet/Oboe all have duet, and it does fit so well with that interchangeable fate fucked up trio!
Yin Yu: Viola. I am SO sorry Yin Yu.... but the viola is the forgettable instrument. So many people don't even know that it exists, and in the orchestra, we rarely hear them distinctively. PLus... it's the unloved instrument (just check: viola meme on google and it will answer) but god it's so fitting
Quan Yizhen Cello. The reason is actually something i experienced in my own orchestra. We had a piece and Viola FINALLY had the melody!! It's so rare, and they were so happy.... but the maestro thought that it wasn't easy to hear them enough, so he asked for the cello to do the melody with the Viola; stealing their solo and making it that they weren't heard (as a cello is much louder than a viola) so cello stole the spotlight to the viola... which just sounds so much Yin Yu/Quan Yizhen for me, If it wasn't from this situation, Quan Yizhen would be at the percussion.
Lang Qianqiu: Trombone. I think as a trombone, he would fit. He is easy going, cool but a little focused when he has a task. And Also, he won't think much before acting, and maybe be rough by time, and it fits with the brass in my head, and even more with trombone. PLaying loudly, being loudly, but still beautiful.
Qi Rong: I actually struggled with him the most. But at this end, I thought about somethieng and I am satisfied. I think Qi Rong would do a good saxophonist. I think he wouldn't like much the orchestra and playing in group, and would also much prefer
Banyue: Doublebass. Actually, the thought is really because she is soooo smol and the idea to give her the biggest instrument is very very very amusing to me. But I also think that she's going to be a good base for the orchestra, and appreciate it much.
Pei Xiu: I... actually couldn't think much, but I think an instrument that needs "discipline" sounded good. So I gave him one of the base instrument, the bassoon. And him and Banyue both being base instrument was cute for me.
Mei Nianqing: Used to be a clarinet player, but he stopped playing. Still knowing how to play, yearning for it, but he's not playing anymore; his orchestra days are more than over. Again, clarinet for similar reason than Shi wudu.
Yushi Huang: I think she would fit really well as the harpist. The instrument seemed a little more "detached" than the usual orchestra one, but she would truly be amazing and good. It's delicate, but also you need a lot of techniques to be playing it. And the aesthetic really pleases me too
#tgcf#tian guan ci fu#xie lian#hua cheng#jun wu#muqing#feng xin#yinyu#fic project#classical music AU#i honestly just love it and i canât wait to write it#i really was just passionate about it and really wanted to write down my thoughts#i could tag all characters but it will be long for nothing at this point ahah
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I feel as though Iâve been misunderstood. For clarity and posterityâs sake, I donât believe JW or XLâs difference is at all about fundamental goodness or badness. In fact, if XL was just fundamentally good and incorruptible, he 1) wouldnât have done a lot of the things he did and 2) wouldnât be (imo) as compelling. He was prideful and full of himself in the beginning. (He told HC to âlive for himâ, which he grew to be embarrassed of as a singular example), he overestimated himself. He acted the way he did with WM. He pushed away FX and MQ. He argued with his parents and they killed themselves. Even after the war and plague was over, he made mistakes and had many regrets in his life. And perhaps in saying in other places that JW took âthis, this, and this,â from him, I havenât been clear enough in my feelings on it, (word count is short on the reply feature), but while JW pushed and encouraged and wished for XLâs downfall, played on every exploitable weakness he possessed and got the ball rolling in practically every aspect, XL reacted to these things and had his own hand in the process too. However, the point is that even after everything he went through, all his suffering and guilt and regret, Xie Lian fought to be good. He decided it, regardless of whether humans were fundamentally flawed or not. Regardless of whose fault it was (often his, according to him). He was offered kindness in his darkest hour by one singular person and chose to fight for that goodness for the rest of his life (and in that way, mirrors HC too). He didnât make excuses for his past actions, he didnât avoid culpability, and he chose to move on. And as his foil, JW went through his own darkest moments and his own suffering and it turned him cynical and cruel. And guilty too, but instead of taking responsibility, he blamed everyone else and made it his full time job to teach XL the lesson he âlearnedââregardless of the cost. He was embarrassed and ashamed and couldnât square that with his self-righteousness. He saw himself in XL and jumped at the chance to use him to prove that nothing that he did/what happened to him was his fault. He wanted to erase his guilt. He wanted someone to share his suffering with. He couldnât let go. And thatâs why they are each otherâs foil. Not because of inherent anything, but because their ability or inability to move on past their traumas. In the story too, JW and XL were both born with similar fate, which is why JW chose him as he did, he just wildly exacerbated what was supposed to already happen to him in attempts to get XL to break and then continued doing so for the next eight hundred years. Xie Lian never did though, not because he is âfundamentallyâ good, absolutely not, but because he fought for goodness.
Jun Wu could have been different, Xie Lian was differentâeven against insurmountable odds. And thatâs the whole point.
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anyway I had a thought today where crown prince xie lian is younger than everyone else.
He is probably 6-7 when he gets mu qing and feng xin (who are 16-17) and they coddle him a lot. Basically XL is their baby brother and baby prince wants to be as strong as his older brothers because they are both so cool!!!
baby lian meets hong-er on the streets one day and please gege canât we keep him??? I donât have friends!! You two donât count cause youâre not my age. Please just please!!!!
So thatâs how the trio becomes a quartet and feng xin and mu qing are not only the body guards of the prince but also baby sitters of two very unruly kids who are never up to any good
(They are not getting paid enough to deal with them) (itâs a damn good thing they love the fuck outta those kids)
anyways XL starts his training and ofc Honger tags along. they grow up training together, challenging each other, competing but falling in love at the same time and yeah celibacy is easy for XL except every time he sees HC his thoughts go haywire
When XL ascends, he has three generals by his side.
When he falls, he has two because honger died in the war
And XL truly thinks he is to blame. He went from being the darling of the heavens to someone who has now lost everything. he canât bear the loss of his beloved
(And he never even got to confess)
Ofc HC keeps him company as a ghost fire because heâd never let his beloved be alone. (XL does not know who the ghost fire is because knowing the love of his life is not at peace would hurt him immeasurably) FX and MQ try their best to stick with him but circumstances deteriorate and they are forced out of his life once again
although this time, MQ does stand up for XL in front of the 33 gods (and gets subsequently banished from heavens). In the end, he still has to leave XL. FX gets forced out of his life after the entire sword ordeal and XLâs subsequent mental breakdown.
Unknown to XL tho they are still both watching over him from a distance because ainât no way they are leaving their baby bro like this
When XL enters his calamity era, they both lose their minds and are trying their best to subtly stop XL from doing the worst things but THAT STUPID FUCKING GHOST ALWAYS FOLLOWING HIM AROUND WILL NOT STOP ENABLING EVERY BAD DECISION XL TAKES
fx and mq are losing their minds. when xl lies in the streets for three days, they try their best to disguise themselves and go help him but that NAMELESS GHOST!!! He does not let them!! âYour highness would be heartbroken when he realizes you two have seen him in such a state and heâd never forgive himself and you two suck at disguising yourselves anyways~â
wu ming does end up getting dispersed but not before XL realizes his true identity and absolutely loses his mind with grief because how did he manage to lose his loved one not once but TWICE and both the times it was HIS FAULT
He gets banished from heavens again because ofc
knowing xl wonât be able to cope fx and mq finally reveal themselves. xl can feel all ashamed of himself for his actions itâs fine they are not leaving him alone again and they will help him heal and move on
Except one night when the two arenât paying attention, XL ends up running away. He canât bear being around them, knowing they know what he did and how he caused hongerâs death twice.
(fx and mq never blamed him at all. They were just heartbroken and guilt stricken for not being able to do enough for their darling brother)
Cue 800 years of searching.
This time when XL ascends, he is greeted by two powerful generals who have been reduced to a tearful mess because THEY FINALLY HAVE XL BACK WITH THEM!!! THEIR BABY BRO IS SAFE
they accompany him to mount Yu Jun as themselves and HC comes to XLâs aid
he does not reveal his identity but XL just knows this man is special
FX and MQ then tell him about Crimson Rain Sought Flower, the elusive ghost king who challenged 33 gods and crushed them all
(But he was super nice to both of them and it kinda freaked them out)
When XL meets San Lang. He knows. He just knows itâs Honger and feels like he can finally breathe again because in those 800 years he never once stopped loving him but he waits for him to reveal his identity to him because what is stopping him from telling him and fx and mq?
HC, meanwhile, is sort of embarrassed to meet them, not sure if they would be able to accept this new form of his. He missed them all dearly but he is just not able to move past his self doubts.
It is not until the cave of 10k gods that it revealed who HC really is and instead of FX and MQ freaking out, there is a tearful reunion
Um yeah. A thought was thunked. Bon Appetit
#somehow this AU has more angst potential than the OG work and still it is less ???#idk how to explain it#can yâall see my vision#Xian le quartet being a found family who kept on LOSING each other#like wow#i low key wish someone would write this#mxtx#tgcf#xie lian#hua cheng#feng xin#wu ming#mu qing#hualian#adding fengqing in the mix would make it 10x more delicious but maybe thatâs just me hehe
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Figures lol
its okay. tumblr does that sometimes i think? In short, I was wondering why He Xuan takes so long to do his revenge, and that evolves to a full blown speculation about He Xuan as a character
- đ
Yeah, tumblr sometimes eats asks, but that doesn't make me feel any better about it ):
He Xuan takes so long to get his revenge for one simple reason: he doesn't know what he needs to get revenge for. He initially infiltrates the heavens because a Heavenly Official was present at his death and he wants to know why. He was a commoner, a failed scholar, a failed businessman, a debtor- why was his death important enough that a god came down to witness it? What role did that Heavenly Official, or even the heavens themselves, have to do with his death?
Which makes more sense- that He Xuan knew for centuries that Shi Wudu had swapped his fate with that of his brother's and in doing so doomed him and his loved ones to wretched fates, but only acted during canon, potentially hundreds of years after discovering it, for whatever reason? Or that He Xuan investigated for centuries into Shi Wudu's presence at his death and what he might have had to do with it, and once he uncovered the truth, he then acted to take revenge?
While neither He Xuan or Jun Wu ever say anything on the matter, Hua Cheng and Xie Lian conclude in Book 5 (In 7seas ch. 119) that Jun Wu must have known about the fate swap and held onto that information over the years, leaking it to He Xuan when he wanted Shi Wudu (and Shi Qingxuan) taken care of. We're given no reason to doubt this conclusion. In fact, it makes a lot of sense. Jun Wu has his fingers in everything in TGCF, why not this too?
#tgcf#tgcf meta#he xuan#jun wu#tian guan ci fu#illuanswers#heaven officials blessing#is it obnoxious that my answer is basically just 'canon says-'? because i think canon's pretty clear about this#maple anon#FINALLY answered this sorry for the wait
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So, i remembered things i have yet to address in the au (The horrors in tgcf, Jun wu, the rest of the cultivation world from mdzs, Nie Huaisang and Jin Guangyao, Sqq's corpse, Cang Qiong, Tianlang-Jun-) so i'll start by svsss'
After meeting Wen Ning, Sqq remembered "Ah, right, Binghe has the original goods corpse" and that kind of thing, isn't it lowkey important for the sects? They probably haven't even been able to have their mandatory mourning time without it... Ah, really, should he tell Binghe to just give it back? (Shen Jiu said he didn't care about it anymore, he asked if he didn't want to go back, he said the same again, so it is as it is)
Convincing Binghe was another whole deal "But Shizun!"
"Your Shizun is right here, what do you want that for?"
"But... But this is the face of the person who was so kind to this disciple..."
Sqq had a lot of conflicted feelings about that, but he had also learned a thing or two from his in laws "Ah, then Binghe only cares for the face? This one should have guessed as much and just go away"
"No! I... This lowly one didn't mean it like that..." Sqq hitted him with his fan "What lowly one? If it truly doesn't matter then Binghe can let it go"
"But..."
"No buts"
"Yes Shizun..." Sqq sighed again "And i've told you before, i'm not a teacher anymore, haven't i?"
At that, Binghe brightned up "Yes, husband!"
Binghe allowed Liu Qingge to "steal" the corpse and they hoped that was the end of it. Except that he came back a few days later claiming that Binghe had taken it back. He didn't, Shen Yuan not only trusted his husband not to do something against his wishes, but he had been with him all those past days, trying to cheer him up for it, Liu-shidi he sacrificed his ass for days for this, really!
Binghe, of course, beat him up sent him off back to Cang Qiong without an explanation, and when they were going back, perhaps to ask Wuxian is he knew a way to track down corpses, Sqq colapsed
When he woke up, it was to a crying Binghe with haunted eyes that he knew the reason for (Ptsd) and Wuxian explained that someone tried to pull his soul out, if it weren't for him having experience with keeping souls into bodies (Wen Ning), he might've been gone for good
It didn't take a genius to connect the lost body and someone pulling his soul out, and when Sy ran off to try and find Sj, the suspicions were confirmed, to which all he could think was "Fuck"
Next up came him having to "explain" the situation to everyone else, or rather, just telling them the lie he and the original goods had come up with, which was that a Qi deviation had broken his soul in half, which resulted in him who had been living as Shen Qingqiu since some while ago, and another part, which had held the memories and passed into this realm
It wasn't a perfect explanation, and surely they weren't buying it completely, but as Shen Yuan admitted that's what they both thought, and that he had found this "other half" when he came to Ghost city, and had rationalized that this was what Wwx's soul compass had perceived, it was acepted as the logical thinking
To differentiate between both, they had divided their names, neither to keep Qingqiu, "theirs" had chosen "Yuan" and the other one (For the first time being able to choose his own name) decided on "Yi*"
That being solved, they thought of having to search for this man, and as such, borrowed the soul compass (And Wwx) for a bit, finally ending up just near enough the holy mausoleum to make Binghe think if this was really worth it, because Shen Yuan had explained to him that the Shizun that had poured tea on him would've been "the other one" and the one that had given him medicine, and the one who took without a cure for him, had been himself, which made Binghe have his own complicated feelings about this, and well, Sy could not fault him for it, he didn't like the original goods that much either but he was guiltily glad that this issue was distracting Binghe from asking about the abbys
When they were near enough, however, they actually found him, as he was fighthing off with another demon that they didn't recognize
Tianlang-Jun and Zhuzhi-lang had realized sooner than later than this wasn't the Sqq they were searching for, which disrupted their plan quite a bit, but still it kind of worked, since Binghe and the one they wanted was there already
Bad for them, Bingqiu is already married, and they can't exactly use the original goods as much of a hostage as they want
Good for them, there is someone who's good at coming up with solutions about corpses around here "So... What happened to you? You're not My dad but not not My dad, Oh, Shen-Ge is this what you meant by 'deadbeat dad'? Because this sounds like that"
Shen Yuan, having been told the story from Sqh after asking about the original goods past, asked if he didn't just want to get his body back from the mountain, because that could be arranged since the HuanHua palace wasn't an intrusion anymore (He had not learned of the hows, but it's his Binghe who did it, of course he would, who cares how), because he would not allow him to touch a hair on Binghe's head (His Maiden Luo was falling for him all over again at that)
Tianlang-Jun doesn't have anywhere to vent his anger to, but he learned the truth at least, as such, and knowing he can't win this one, he just goes off to travel the human world again with his nephew, maybe come ever now and then to annoy that son of his
Shen Yi* on the meantime, wants to kill Shen Yuan for what he did to their body with without a cure, Sy on his side, considers to try and search for another method, but at the same time, this is the guy who wouldn't have minded killing his husband, indirectly, but still, a scum villain is still a scum villain!
Then the system gives him the new mission of rediming the scum villain, since the genre has been already changed and so have the circumstances around the original character-
Fuck your ancestors, system!
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Yi* is a name that according to what i found on Google, means "Unique" which i considered for all the hatred the og Sqq had about being numbered, i also considered Qiang, that means strength, and with two characters the name Xinyu, which means new world, for him trying to start anew, you can take any of this if you will as alternatives! (This is research done on Google, do not take me for a trust worthy source!)
I'll probably do a part 2 at some point, but i should also kind of address the plot for the other two too-
#demonic Bros au#svsss#scum villian self saving system#shen qingqiu#shen yuan#shen jiu#luo binghe#luo bingmei#bingqiu#mdzs#mo dao zu shi#wei wuxian#tgcf cast aint here for this one save a passing mention of ghost city#tgcf#heaven official's blessing#tian guan ci fu
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Top 5 favorite moments in your favorite villain's stories!
the counterpoint to this ask because there was a slightly distinct flavor to these two options! okay okay let's go, limiting this to one per character for challenge mode and this is obviously an incomplete villain selection, just the ones I thought of first
1. I could've put down the final confrontation between Xue Yang and Xiao Xingchen again for this because it is legitimately one of the scenes of all time, just, globally, but I think for some variety I'm going to go for the scene right afterwards, specifically the CQL rendition with Xue Yang setting everything up and making dinner and sitting there with a lovestruck expression waiting for Xiao Xingchen to wake up and...everything to be fine again, I guess? Oh buddy. And then the inevitable meltdown when that isn't what happens. It is so painful in the best possible way. CQL gets this one for a few reasons but bonus mention to the way the novel scene specifies that Xue Yang also remakes A-Qing's bed and the fact that he doesn't tend to his own stab wound until after he's got Xiao Xingchen all set up for resurrection.
2. The entire goddamn pool scene (Kinnporsche). I mean, scenes that have me lying on the floor making pathetic noises for 500, cycling around in my brain, thinking about on the regular. There's so much happening there and as one of the several !!!! vegaspete moments for me this is a scene that regularly punches me in the face. Also delivered choice painful whump on about five different levels but didn't actually kill off my fave (for once). Incredible.
3. I feel like this is rich of me given I was just complaining about Brandon Sanderson but I have to flag the bit with Moridin in The Gathering Storm where Rand intrudes on his brooding time and he is so clearly Tired and Done with everything. @neuxue wrote an incredible write-up on that whole scene that pretty perfectly explicates why it means so much to me, so I went and dug it up so I could link to it for someone who can talk about this better. My (possibly inordinate) affection for Ishamael/Moridin is well fed.
4. look, I'm still embarrassed about this but he did sort of rewrite my brain so I'm going to include it regardless of my vague sense of shame: Loki's death(ish) scene in The Dark World made me feel so hard and continues to be very emotional for me even knowing that it was, ultimately, a fakeout. It still doesn't read to me as a scene where the character who is(n't actually) dying knows that they're. not actually dying. The way the whole sequence plays out is great, but in particular "I didn't do it for him" is one of those lines that like. I felt that. Still feel that, little bit. Loki died (ish) three times and this one is my favorite. The Dark World is objectively not a very good movie but! it is near to my heart.
5. Had to think about this one for a while because there are so many options and I'm sure I'm forgetting a bunch, but I think I'm going to hand this to the moments immediately after Jun Wu has been beaten at the end of TGCF, because as I've gone on record saying before, it never ceases to drive me completely insane and while he is a villain I don't talk about as much as some others he is one who gives me a whole lot of feelings.
Bonus mention to Maeglin's death in The Silmarillion though because I'm a big fan of narrative circularity and characters who doom themselves while also possibly being inevitably cursed as well. Also thought about (most recently) giving this one to a bunch of possible Rasten moments in North Star Guide Me Home but I feel like at that point he only barely qualifies as a villain so.
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4, 8, 9, 11, 15 for yue qingyuan
4. What's something that, if said to them, would make them very upset?
Yue Qingyuan is such a chill character, it takes a lot for him to show that he's upset. That being said, if you bring up Shen Jiu that is guaranteed to upset him. Tbh the way I read his character, he knows that abandoning Shen Jiu was his fault (even if it wasn't. Not explaining things was 100% his fault) and he sees that as his greatest mistake. Nothing will be able to upset him as much as that (:
8. What political views would they have?
I feel like this is such a hard question to answer seriously because 1. I'm American and do not have a good grasp on Chinese politics 2. I'm very heavily biased and 3. This is a character inside an ancient fictional world that is influenced by an in-universe character's own political views and culture that is influenced by the irl author's political views
That being said Yue Qingyuan would join Jun Wu in the battle against Trump. He will be his Vice President and they shall have fanfiction written about them by the masses (Liu Mingyan and Shi Qingxuan)
9. What's something they would do that you would cringe at?
Exist. Don't get me wrong, I like YQY as a character but this man's very existence wants me to wring him out like the sopping wet towel he is.
11. What elective would they take/have taken in high school?
This is purely off of vibes but I think he'd like the cooking/sewing/home ec classes. I also want to say debate, economics, or a world culture type class because his peak does focus on diplomacy and organizing the rest of the sect.
15. What's something you would disagree with them on?
Tbh I feel like I wouldn't get along with him in general. I could tolerate him if I worked with him, but I wouldn't like him. I'd probably disagree with him on his leadership style the most. To be fair, we do see him from Shen Qingqiu's perspective so he may be more competent than I'm giving him credit for.
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I would just like some clarification if you can help! I see you post excerpts from the web novel and say uncensored on them. Does the web novel follow the books with extra info or are they the same? What is the difference between the two?
There is a lot of new content in practically 80% of the novel revised version, right? In the uncensored version there are only the scenes that were actually censored. Some new content in the revised version:
Characters like Lang Ying (the ghost child) and Prince An Le were cut.
Xiao Ying recognizes Xie Lian and calls him "prince" before she dies, so I have a theory that she replaced Lang Ying's role (I haven't finished reading it yet).
Xie Lian chose Lang Qianqiu as a disciple to protect him from Qi Rong, who chased and haunted him when he was a child. As for the Gilded Banquet massacre, Xie Lian knew that it was Qi Rong's work, and at the time, he suppressed him.
Xie Lian cannot enter the Xianle Imperial Mausoleum because the place's enchantment recognizes Xie Lian as the prince who destroyed Xianle.
Xie Lian's feelings towards Hua Cheng are also much more intense, in the Ganbler's Den arc, for example, their interaction is hotter than in the original, with lines like Xie Lian asking Hua Cheng to spend a night with him and Hua Cheng replying that "it would be my first time".
In the Qi Rong arc, Hua Cheng doesn't take Xie Lian straight to his lair, but rather takes him to wander around different cities for days under the pretext that he needed Xie Lian's help with something. It's in this new content that we have Hua Cheng competing for a golden flower and, upon winning, he gives the flower to Xie Lian.
Mu Qing appears to be much more concerned about Xie Lian as well, he's always teaming up with Feng Xin to help and protect him. When Hua Cheng "kidnaps" Xie Lian, for example, in the original the only one who appears together with Shi Qingxuan is Feng Xin, in this version he, together with Mu Qing, ask for Shi Qingxuan's help disguised as Nan Feng and Fu Yao to find he.
Jun Wu's influence is also sharper. For example, his influence on Ling Wen is more apparent than in the original, with her always saying that he's good and fair and that he is "someone who forgives easily", always trying to convince Xie Lian that everything will work out for him cause the final decisions are in Jun Wu's hands.
The censored version cuts kissing scenes and other hot scenes, while the uncensored version has more freedom, although it's still a little censored. In the Mount Tonglu arc, for example, in the uncensored version, Hua Cheng is practically touching Xie Lian's entire body, while Xie Lian cries during the kiss.
The audio drama even adapts this revised version, so if you've seen any scene from the ad, or are following the updates, know that it's the same.
For now this is all I have :)
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Reading TGCF: Chapter Nineteen

For those who don't know, I am reading TGCF for the first time and sharing my thoughts!
If you have not read it, there will be spoilers! Consider this a warning.
Also- if you want to follow along, I am aiming to post updates daily. You can find all the posts in the tag Bloopitynoot reads TGCF. You can also check out the intro post for context on my read BUT if you followed along with my SVSSS read, the rules and vibe are the same.

Okay so before I even start- don't mind the state of my writing at all. I had 3/5 of my tea sleeve tattoo filled in yesterday and I am swollen as fuck. My penmanship has definitely suffered for it :'3.
If you want to see a little update of the progress, I fucking love it so much 9ignore the quality I had to turn my video into a gif because tumblr was being rude):
So because I am healing a large wound, I am drinking lots of water and hibiscus tea.
Let's go chapter 19!


This chapter title is giving fistfight in a denny's parking lot energy and I am not mad about it (yet). p173
Bless the wind master, Xie Lian's only friend, for coming in with some common sense about the situation. (why indeed would xie lian save this guy if he had deep beef with him?). p173
Also some respect to Jun Wu for knowing Xie Lian is an idiot and removing him from the situation. Will the interrogation go well, idk (especially since I was told that everything goes tits up for a while after this. I am so nervous). p175
Even with this memory of Xie Lian murdering the entire palace, I still struggle to think he did it out of malice. I feel like something is up. The plot thickens. pp178-180
Mu Qing and Feng Xin have such weird vibes. I know their relationship to xie lian, and thus to each other, is complicated, but I hope we get some more insight later. pp182-183
oop. Well that is one way to resolve the weird tension; just beat the heck out of one another.
OMG. HUA CHENG. I AM STRESSED. ALL THE BUTTERFLIES. p185
Is this a jail break or an assassination??
I am scared but only time will tell. :''(
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Hello!
TGCF is the first fictional book I have read (that I know ofđ
) where the book was officially printed, then it was revised and printed again. I know this isnât a new thing for fiction writers to do, just new for me to have read a book like that.
Iâve read some fan translations of the revised version but itâs still an incomplete picture as things come in snippets. (Not a dig on this, just noting that observations I make on changes are incomplete right now)
Have you encountered this with any fictional stories you have read before? If so, how did you adjust to whatâs canon? Did you hold them as two separate versions or let the revised version supersede the unrevised as canon? Or did you make a third path? đ
Whatâs your take on any translations of the revised TGCF you have read (if you have had the chance to read them)?
For me, I think I hold them as two separate canons. Characters, and how we understand them based off the text, can sometimes subtly or drastically change after a revision. And I donât mean minor changes, I mean the ones that gave a clear picture on why x character did such and such, and why they now do x action vs not before, etc. And personal preferences will determine if one likes the changes or not.
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đŤŁHappy to hear whatever feedback you have on the topic. đ
Hm, good questions. I guess I never thought too deeply about this because I just figure that whatever latest version mxtx puts out is The Canonâ˘ď¸. Also, these works are already being filtered through translation, so unless I one day learn Mandarin fluent enough to read in their original language, Iâve already accepted that there are going to be multiple variations of a text floating around. With that said, the revised tgcf is the real canon to me, but other than some additions and a wholesale deletion of the ghost kid from the story, I have not heard anything to suggest that the unrevised and revised are so radically different as to be considered different books. Hualian still get together, the Xianle trio still have their issues that they work out, Jun Wu is still the final antagonist, and the moral of the story remains the same. For the sake of limiting confusion, I try to mention which version of the story Iâve read and am pulling my ideas from, but considering them separate canons as if they are adaptations by different creators feels a little excessive.
As for what I think of the revisions that Iâve seen so far? Good shit đĽ
#tgcf asks#silver-cyn#a specific word choice difference between translations can also radically shift an audienceâs perception of the text#i find sqq in svsss much easier to read as a character in the official than in the fan translation#and those were translated by the same person#i just had a back and forth with someone on tgcf where the disagreement came from conflicting readings from the fan translation#which a glance at the official cleared that up#that doesnât mean each work is a separate entity#it just means that there are pros and cons and as you said it depends on peopleâs preferences#just because we were gifted with the rough draft to read#does not mean that we can surplant the finished product based on a familiarity with the draft
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