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lepartidelamort · 9 months ago

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Don’t Vote for the Child Murderer Donald Trump. Don’t Vote for Anyone.

Remember which niggers kept telling you “oh no, Trump will be better this time!”

I said they were retards from the beginning for even talking about the election at all – it’s like taking pro-wrestling super seriously when you know for a fact it’s fake.

But even I had no idea that Trump would go ultra-kike. This nigger was running around promoting abortion for months, then we get Gaza and he went ultra-maximo-zio-mania. Now this nigger is saying he’s bringing back the lunatic Indian mass-murderer – the ultimate Jew-lover, who makes Bill Kristol and Max Boot blush with her pro-Jew sentiment!

He’s saying that he is going to put her on the team!

I’m not even saying that every nigger that was supporting Trump after the fake election is some kind of shill or satanic agent. Although, quite frankly, you do have to wonder about the status of the souls of the people who were defending him on the abortion thing. What I am telling you is that these people are stupid – they were wrong and I was right again.

I’m sure that some of these people who were shilling Trump 2024 are going to start distancing themselves from it now. Now that it has gotten to the point that it is effectively a parody of itself. [Note to editor: I did not mean for that to be a complete sentence. It is a stylistic choice. I’m now rereading Cormac McCarthy as part of a sick experiment, so with the way I sponge up stylistics, even weirder things are to come. Don’t delete this particular note. We’ll give the reader a look behind the curtain, to find that instead of a guy with a machine, I am actually the real Wizard of Oz.]

Anyone still pretending Trump 2024 is serious at this point has to be some kind of shill or satanic cultist attempting to do a sick ritual against you.

What I am saying is very simple: do not vote.

Do.

Not.

Vote.

Voting is consent. You are quite literally signing a piece of paper and agreeing to be governed by these people. I am starting to believe that this actually is some kind of mass satanic ritual. Along with Cormac McCarthy, I’ve been reading medieval demonology (not the real source material, which is a lot closer to Chaucer than it is to Shakespeare, but various 19th century books about the topic), and demons are very clearly obsessed with getting the humans to sign papers of consent.

Boomer votes for pro-abortion, pro-gay, pro-war, pro-vax candidate because “at least he’s not that other guy.”

We kind of all know the Faustus story though, right?

I don’t want to go too hard on this point, but basically, I’m convinced that when you check that box for a baby-killer – whether he is killing babies in Gaza or in the womb, and Trump is saying he’s going to do both – you’re making a deal with the devil.

The response from boomers is always “well, you gotta play the game, it’s politics, man, it’s the lesser of two evils, you gotta make compromises, man, it’s the way politics works, you can’t get everything you want.” [Note to editor: intentional run-on sentence, kind of a commentary, just leave this note in too, and just leave this sentence in the note in run-on form as well, this is also a type of commentary, or some might say it’s pushing the joke too far, something that I always respected Norm MacDonald for doing.]

Where has this “lesser of two evils” shit led? What single thing has gotten better since you were born? What single thing has gotten better since your dad was born? What single thing has gotten better since that German guy with the mustache died in a bunker with his wife in 1945?

Nothing ever happens. Everything just keeps getting worse, as all of these political commentators tell you to sign these consent forms (ballots).

Well, I’m going all the way in: don’t vote.

Be the change you want to see in the world, or whatever other gay inspirational quote that is actually true, but do not sign the consent form for Donald Trump to kill unborn children in this country and already born children in Palestine.

Seriously, think about it for 17 seconds:

A devil appears

He asks you what your heart’s desire is

You say “I want to stop all of these brown people coming into my country”

The devil says “sure thing, champ – please just sign this form endorsing the mass murder of children, and I’ll get right on that immigration thing”

Immigration never stops, because in fact – surprise, surprise – the devil is a liar

Do you feel me, my nigga?

Can you smell what I’ve got cooking?

(I’m cooking a Jesus cake. I guess we’d call that “baking.”)

And of course I get all of the “oh so you’re saying there are no solutions???”

This is such a low IQ take.

Yes, I am literally saying that there are no political solutions, and that politics is a gigantic scam. I’m saying you are the solution, my dearest parasocial friend and my brother in Christ.

Can you make your life good? Can you be good to other people? Can you take care of yourself and take care of others who deserve it when they need it? Can you build a community of traditional white Americans?

Can you live like a Christian?

Because, my sweet brother: if all Americans were doing that, we wouldn’t be in this situation with the kikes riding us like animals in the first place.

This is what the 77-year-old baby-killing slob Donald Trump is endorsing: Nimrata Randhawa recently went to “the Jew state of Israel” (it’s actually called “Palestine) and wrote “finish them” on a Jewish bomb.

The Independent:

Former US presidential hopeful Nikki Haley has sparked outrage by writing “Finish Them” on an artillery shell during a Memorial Day visit to the Israeli military near the border with Lebanon. Photos of the former South Carolina governor writing on the bomb were shared by Israeli parliamentarian and former envoy to the United Nations, Danny Danon, who accompanied the American politician. Ms Haley’s message also carried the words “America loves Israel”.

So, I mean, there is a lot you could say about that.

Most of what you could say doesn’t even need to be said.

What I will say is: speak for your own fucking country, you vile satanist cunt. If you want to write “India loves Israel,” then that’s your prerogative, but you are not American and you do not represent me, my family, my community, or my ancestors.

She was running around with one of the worst kikes – that UN representative who is always making those outrageous threats against the entire world.

If “politics is about compromise,” then how about “fuck politics”? How about trying that one on?

All of these politicians are completely worthless, and they’ve never accomplished anything. The commentators are all just shills for the political system.

And yes, I did support Donald Trump in 2016. I stopped supporting him briefly after he was elected, but then started supporting him again before the election, because I knew all this stuff Biden was going to do with the virus hoax and the wars and so on. I knew it would be worse than Trump. I don’t regret it. Trump wasn’t supporting killing babies in or out of the womb at that time.

It would maybe take me some time to reflect on whether or not I would have done something differently or not. My immediate thinking is that I would not have. But it’s something I need to think more about, and work through in my writing. Instead of giving you stupid pointless hot takes on politics as we run up to the election, I’m going to be deconstructing politics and explaining why it is pointless at best (and at worst a satanic ritual to get your consent for satanic actions).

I want to understand on a deeper level what it means to be a Christian, and I am certain that as I do that, I will gain a deeper understanding of everything else.

But here is something I am clear on: don’t sign a paper that says you agree with killing kids.

Andrew Anglin

#dailystormer #oy vey !#u.s.a.#u.s. elections

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wilwheaton · 4 years ago

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an apology I don’t expect you to read

I'm going to put the important bit at the top, without context, so if that's all you see before you tl;dr, at least you'll see it:

Without meaning to, without realizing it, I haven't given the next generation after mine the respect it deserves. I've behaved exactly the way the Boomers were with me: like my experience is the only one that's valid. And that's not helpful, if I hope to share whatever my experience is.

So if you're one of the younger-than-me people who's felt disrespected by me, and to those who I have treated like their experiences aren't valid: I am sincerely sorry.

I'm sorry. I talk to my generation in a way I shouldn't talk to yours. Some of you have been trying to tell me that, and I haven't been able to hear you. That's entirely on me, and I'm very sorry for treating you EXACTLY the way shitty middle-aged dickheads treated me when I was around your age.

Thanks for listening.

Okay, if you want all the long-winded context, read on.

All day, I've been having this slow, dawning, realization about how to talk to and listen to teenagers and twentysomethings who are politically and intellectually aware and engaged.

I have a reflexive tendency to imagine the anonymous person who posted that thing at me as someone from my own peer group, because we all unconsciously identify people that way online, unless we explicitly have a reason not to.

So, without realizing it, I have been responding to young, politically-active people as if they are my peer group: forty-somethings who have the same amount of life experience I have. As a result, I've just been a shitty middle-aged guy to well-meaning kids, and when I was a kid, I *hated* that.

In fact, I vowed as a twenty-something that when I was older, I would take kids seriously, which I think means at least hearing them out, rather than just shutting them down because they're young.

I've been trying, and I thought I was nailing it. But I realized today that, for years, when I've had rare occasion to interact with someone who is, to me, a kid, I've been talking to, say, 18 year-old me, or 23 year-old, me, and so on. What I _should_ have been doing is listening to 18 year-old _whoever that person is_, and allowing them to be heard on their own terms, as their own people, and not as a reflection of who I was, or who my peers were, at their stage of life.

So I'm going to talk to a person my age very differently than I'm going to talk to a younger person, since the person my age has the same life experience and same life-shaping events I had. So I just don't have any patience for someone who is in their 40s and is STILL going on about The Greens.

It's like, listen, you fortysomething, when I was a kid, I thought the Greens were great, and I supported them, too. I don't know how they are in the rest of the world, but at the presidential level in America all they do is help Republicans by taking votes away from Democrats. And Republicans (and their ideological allies in Russia, China, Saudi Arabia) start grooming kids when they are teens to believe that "the lesser of two evils is still evil". I know this because they did it to me and my generation (OUR GENERATION), too. I (WE)know this from personal experience in 2000, so even though a lot of Green positions appeal to me, I won't support them at the presidential level. But I come to thsi conclusion this based on 30 years of political experience. And I know it is condescending to say "when you're older you'll understand", so please know I hear it when I say that you're going to grow out of this and realize the Democrats, as imperfect as they are, aren't your enemy. I know this because I and millions of others in my generation went through this same transformation. It's why the Democratic Party has moved so far to the Left, so that candidates like AOC and The Squad are on their way to changing things in the House.

I know that is probably TOTALLY condescending, and likely turned off everyone I was hoping to apologize to. Good thing I already did that.

Look. I don't know how to say it any other way. Greens hurt America at the presidential level. Always have, always will.

I've gotten sidetracked. Let me try to come back around:

In some of these asks, I don't regret the argument I've made, but deeply regret the _way_ I made it. I've ended up being a condescending, impatient, tone-deaf ass to a lot of kids, when they absolutely did not deserve to be treated that way.

I hated it when adults treated me that way. I hated being dismissed and unheard when I felt strongly about something. I felt like my ideas deserved to at least be heard. Even though I now know those adults were (fairly) reacting to my lack of life experience, they could have expressed that better, in a more compassionate and empathetic way.

The reality is, we aren't going to be listened to very much when we're young, because we simply do not have the life experience to make huge decisions. But that doesn't mean our feelings are, by default, invalid.

I vowed to not treat kids the way adults treated me, so when I interact with these young men and women, I reflexively talk to whoever I was at their age, saying the things and hearing the things that he would have said and heard.

That's like ... oh, I don't know, a 50 year-old in 1988 trying to convince 14 year-old me of anything. Or a 48 year-old in 1993, lecturing 23 year-old me, who is REALLY smart and has A LOT figured out, like he's an idiot who has no agency or valid opinions.

The thing I needed to do, so I could fulfill the vow I made when I was young, is to give young people the _respect_ they deserve. I need to recognize that, though their experience is limited compared to mine, that doesn't mean their experience is invalid or wrong. The thing I need to do is to actually listen to what someone is saying, and recognize that, because of our relative ages, we may be speaking the same language but not communicating. And because I have more experience, it's incumbent upon _me_, not them, to bridge that gap.

So if you're one of the younger-than-me people who's felt disrespected by me, and to those who I have treated like their experiences aren't valid: I am sincerely sorry.

I have been nothing more than a cranky old man to any kid who shows up on my internet lawn, and I just want you to know that (as of about two hours ago) I'm aware of it, I'm sorry for being rude.

Even if I don't agree with you on something, even if I don't think that something REALLY important to you isn't as important as that thing is going to seem in 20 years, WHAT I THINK DOES NOT MATTER, because I'm halfway through my ride on this planet, and you're all just beginning. I fully believe that if the generation ahead of us had listened to us, we would all be better off. I know that a lot of you feel that way about me and other Xers, and you're totally right to feel that way. We're borrowing your planet, now, and we're doing our best (at least I am) to give you a better culture than the Boomers gave us. And I STILL know that it isn't enough, because it wasn't enough for me when I was in my twenties. (I will gently tell you that when we're in our twenties, a lot of what we want will eventually be tempered with age, and you'll be like, "I can't believe I fought so hard for that thing," but that doesn't mean the fight, and the experience of the fight, isn't worth it.)

I had a whole thing here to wrap this up that ultimately ended up being about me and my feelings. I deleted it because what I really just want to say is: I'm sorry. I talk to my generation in a way I shouldn't talk to yours. Some of you have been trying to tell me that, and I haven't been able to hear you. That's entirely on me, and I'm very sorry for treating you EXACTLY the way shitty middle-aged dickheads treated me when I was around your age.

This has been, honestly, a huge revelation to me about who I am in this moment, and who I wanted to be at this point. It makes me reconsider and just ... rethink, I guess? a lot of things. I'm going to grow from this, and I want to end by saying thank you to those of you who tried to communicate to me with kindness. I didn't hear you directly or explicitly, but I think I eventually got there.

So, sidebar you can ignore because it's at the end: Politically, I have a ton of experience. I've spent my life in it, more years than a lot of the people who drag me have been alive. I don't take that personally, because I know how kids are, and I know how kids view adults (and vice/versa). Politically, especially at this specific moment, I don't have a lot of patience for anyone who isn't willing to do the ONE thing that can end Trump: vote for Biden, and vote for Democrats all the way down. I get it. I get that you want someone to win your heart, but if you don't vote with your head, there will not be another election in your lifetime that matters. When Democracy in America is not at stake, I will 100% listen to all of your arguments and all of your reasons you hated voting for Biden, and what we can all do together to make your world better and more fair. But I promise you. I beg you to hear me: the ONLY way we stop Trump and his Fascists is to elect Biden in a LANDSLIDE. Anything less and you're going to spend the best years of your life in an autocracy.

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mysherlockstardis · 5 years ago

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Don’t waste your vote.

Please don’t throw your vote away on November, 3rd.

Please don’t write in Bernie Sander’s name or vote 3rd party or ignore your civil duty all together.

Please vote for Joe Biden if you truly believe that Trump is not good for this country. You can either stomach Trump, support Trump, or acknowledge that he needs to go!

For those who supported Bernie and now want to sit out of this election or cast a vote with his name in protest please consider what Sanders and Biden have in common.

On Criminal Justice:

1. Biden and Sanders want to abolish capital punishment.

2. Biden and Sanders support ending the cash bail system.

3. Biden and Sanders support scraping sentencing disparities (on cocaine).

4. Biden and Sanders support abolishing the minimum sentences on nonviolent drug offenses.

5. Biden and Sanders support scrapping previous pot convictions.

6. Biden and Sanders support eliminating private prisons.

On Economy:

Biden and Sanders both want to increase the minimum wage to $15.

On Education:

Biden and Sanders want to boost teacher pay.

I would like to add that while Biden and Sanders certainly don’t share a lot of similar views on education, it should be noted that Biden does support 2 years of free college, and wants to work on reforming the student debt problem in our country.

On Climate Change/Food & Agriculture:

1. Biden and Sanders want to pay farmers to adopt climate friendly practices.

2. Biden and Sanders support protecting the rights of farm workers.

Again, they don’t share many views in this department, but I would like to note that Biden supports the development of nuclear technologies to fight climate change, end new oil and gas leases on federal land and offshore drilling, and place a tax on carbon emissions.

On Gun Control:

Biden and Sanders support a ban on assault weapons and a plan to have a federal buyback on such weapons.

Biden and Sanders support universal background checks.

On Immigration:

Biden and Sanders want to grant citizenship to DACA recipients or dreamers.

On the Supreme Court:

Either Biden wins and when RBG retires, she is replaced with a judge of similar temperament or Trump wins and puts another conservative judge thereby shifting the dynamics of the supreme court in favor of conservative values for the rest of our lifetimes.

I do not want to debate anyone about any of these individual policies. This isn’t about debating politics, but looking at the similarities of the 2 candidates that divide the only party that can defeat Trump. I just want those who supported Bernie Sanders and can’t stand the idea of voting for Biden to understand that by not actively voting against Trump for Biden, you are enabling Trump to remain in office. We could debate about how Trump lost the popular vote and still won, and how the electoral college devalues individual votes. 100%. We could also debate that in 2016, if third party voters in Florida had chosen to vote for Clinton instead of giving their vote to a person that had no chance of winning, then she could have won that state.

The more progressives, democrats, liberals, and left-leaning idealists argue about how disappointing of a candidate Biden is, then the more likely Trump will be re-elected. Trump’s base is not divided. We are.

Can it not be agreed upon by both the moderate democrats who support Biden and the liberals who supported Bernie that Trump needs to go?

Our country is unfortunately a two-party system. It sucks, but it’s a fact. There are 2 choices for President. Joe Biden or Donald Trump. You either choose one or admit that you don’t actually care enough about the leadership in our country to even cast a vote. Or maybe you do care, but not enough to cast a vote that could make a difference in the election. Writing in Mickey Mouse or Bernie Sanders is not gonna make Mickey Mouse or Bernie Sanders the President. It just means that you better hope that your fellow Americans who are casting the votes that actually count are looking out for your best interests; because you aren't.

Under Trump, Dreamers will not be offered citizenship.

Under Trump, if he is reelected, the Supreme Court will likely become a completely conservative leaning court (arguably endangering the rights of women and the LGBTQ+ community, don’t @ me).

Under Trump, climate change is not and will continue to not be addressed with the seriousness it deserves.

Biden is not a perfect candidate (trust me I don’t wanna defend his character or all of his politics), but he is literally the only option we have. Other than Trump.

I truly do not understand how people who oppose Trump and Biden, but like Bernie, can seriously sit back and debate throwing their vote away. Listen, I get it. This post probably sounds like I don’t get it. This post probably sounds like I’m trying to ignore all the problems Joe Biden presents as a person and politician.

I do not agree with Joe Biden on everything. There are few people who would probably agree with Joe Biden on everything.

I just know I agree with Joe Biden more than I agree with Donald Trump, which makes casting a ballot in his name a lot easier than sitting back and being upset that we only have two bad choices for president. People always get upset when I argue about the lesser evil, but if we are going to be stuck with an evil either way, isn't it better that you get to choose which of those evils will hurt you less?

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afrosarah · 4 years ago

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I'm gonna be real with you, when Trump was asked to condemn white supremacists, he told the Proud Boys to "stand by". If you otherwise vote dem, this is really not the time to vote third party on the principle of not voting for the lesser of two evils, when voting that way seriously risks Trump being in office 4 more years. I didn't want Biden either but I'm black and queer so I really don't have that option to sacrifice my wellbeing/safety and the safety of so many Americans like me. I don't have the privilege of not facing the consequences of that thrown away vote. Trump on live television didn't denounce white supremacy when he was explicitly asked to, after using very suspect speech immediately prior, and I need people to understand that people LIKE ME are gonna be the collateral damage for their choice to vote third party, for 4 more years.

And I'm gonna be real, the people I see that are saying "I can't abide, I must stand by my principles even if it means my vote that would normally go to a democratic candidate will essentially be a vote to Trump" - those people are either young lower-to-middle class white people with income and homes and healthcare, for whom things like BLM and ACA are just discussion points on which they can "agree to disagree", or people like me, but who are gearing up for a revolution - like, a deadass revolution, 1776 style.

Maybe I'm just getting too old, but I can't handle an honest to god coup right now, ok? I live in Louisville, ok? Lately we are this close 👌 this fucking close 👌 to just.. bruh.

I also desperately want change, but now is very much the wrong time, this is the wrong election, people are dying and this can determine so, so much.

I mean, maybe y'all are willing to be martyrs in the next 4 years, nobly sacrificing your rights and wellbeing to Trump's administration to show everybody that change is necessary, maybe y'all wanna fuck around and find out, but I did NOT sign up for that shit and I'm gonna be mad

#presidential debate #vote 2020 #went on a little rant today lads

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anonymous-moderate · 5 years ago

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In the 2016 election, I voted for Trump.

When it comes to political leanings, I’m moderate. I can lean a little left or a little right depending on the issue, but I’m moderate. I was only 21 when the last election rolled around. Now, normally, I avoid politics at all costs. I hate the drama and I hate the judgement and I hate that the difference in who I vote for can cause a person I thought I was friends with to insult me and attack me or pretend we never knew each other at all. I hate that someone’s political leanings have any sway in how they’re viewed. Whether someone is a Democrat or a Republican, the moment that label is made known, someone somewhere judges you for it and makes assumptions without even knowing what exactly you believe in and stand for, and why. They already think they know everything about you without you saying more than that single word.

So I hate politics.

But when it comes to making important voting decisions, I don’t just vote on a whim. When 2016 rolled around, it was the first presidential election I could vote in. I have friends in the LGBT and nerd communities, and most people there tend to be left-leaning. But my family is Christian and mostly conservative, though my immediate family and I tread more toward the middle than most. I’d say we were Libertarian if there weren’t a few other beliefs in that party that don’t align with ours. But as you can already see, going into the election I had voices from both sides whispering in my ears and trying to tell me who to vote for (without actually trying, because most people I know wouldn’t do that on purpose; hearing repeated opinions just gets into your brain). So I tried to do my research.

Now keep in mind, this is all coming from my memory from four years ago...and as this is a recounting of my experience and not a display of facts, I might be a little off. But bear with me.

From my point of view, there were reasons I didn’t like both candidates...and they both also had certain campaign platforms that I agreed with wholeheartedly. I won’t go into detail here because it doesn’t really matter...but there were reasons for me to love and hate both. From a personality perspective, Trump was an ass. He was a businessman, not a politician, so he didn’t sweeten his words. He just said what he was thinking without trying to smooth-talking his way into people’s hearts. He was upfront and blunt and honest. He didn’t hold back. He had rough patches in his history, and he never pretended it didn’t happen. He made promises that he probably couldn’t keep, but every candidate does that to paint themselves in a positive light. Hillary did the same thing. He was a celebrity before he was a candidate, and I knew that gave him an advantage.

But Hillary had the same advantage. She had been in politics for years. Her husband had been president before she ran. And she really was a politician. She had the capacity to talk her way into people’s hearts, with promises that were more emotional based...something which, for her, was an added strength. And she was a woman...which at the time was unprecedented. A lot of people were hoping for her to win because of that fact. But...she lied. A lot. She would say she believed in something that, months prior, she was against, and then say she never was against it in the first place. She was sly and she was clever. She could paint a pretty picture to cover up mistakes. She had secrets.

But that was the difference. I voted for Trump because at the very least I knew what I was getting. I knew what to expect. I didn’t vote for Hillary because she scared me. Because I didn’t know who she really was, because there were secrets and rumors and people who had disappeared mysteriously around her family...and sometimes I wonder what it would have been like if she had won. A lot of people openly hate Trump for one reason or another, and people are always pointing out what he did wrong. But we know what he did wrong. We KNOW. We’re well aware of what is going on in this country. What scared me about Hillary was that even if there was chaos and disaster happening in the background, things could have seemed perfectly fine, but it all would have been a pretty and elaborate lie to make everyone feel better. She could have hidden the bad things easily, because from everything I was seeing in her campaign, she was already lying and hiding. Between the lesser of two evils, that’s what made up my mind.

So in 2016, I voted for Trump.

Say what you will about his poor choices. Ignore the positives if you want (up until Covid, unemployment was at the lowest it has been in a decade at least; the United States is now the leading provider of fuel and energy in the world; money was put into certain suffering communities and the economy was improving, at least until shit hit the fan this year). Go ahead and focus on all the bad things that happened, I don’t blame you...the news only reports on that stuff anyway. Nobody wants to hear about the fluff pieces and the moments of positivity, so I won’t hold a grudge for people who will only point at the disasters.

But now, in 2020, I don’t know who to vote for because frankly I don’t like either option. There were more moderate-leaning choices that came up in the primaries that I loved...but with the way political parties work, they weren’t “Left Enough” for the Democratic Party to put up against Trump. There were candidates in the last election too that I liked better than Trump but weren’t “Right Enough” for the Republican Party. So I don’t know who to vote for and I wish we could have a legitimate third option that doesn’t make me uncertain.

Now I would say this on my normal account...but I can’t. Because if I spoke my mind and out my name to these words, I would lose so much just for having my own opinion. And it’s scary. And I know, that sounds so impossible, that it’s “scary” to have a unique opinion when I’m talking to a group that is comprised mostly of people who boast open-mindedness...but it scares me anyway. Because in this day and age, you never know how someone will react when you say “Hey I think differently than you”.

So hi. This is me. And even from behind another name, I’m saying:

“Hey, I think differently than you...and I hope that’s okay.”

#politics #trump #hillary clinton #election 2016 #election #election 2020 #moderate #politically moderate #political

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muffinapologist · 4 years ago

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here’s the thing. If you’re sick of the two party system, if you’re sick of being told to choose the lesser of two evils; stop waiting until the presidential election to do something about it.

Because the reality of the situation is that on November 3, 2020 either Donald Trump or Joe Biden will be voted as the President of the United States. That is what is going to happen. There is no third option, not practically.

And I agree, it sucks! I agree, we deserve better! And I agree, this happened because the DNC is corrupt and has the interests of the ruling class in mind!

But none of that is helpful right now. We can’t do anything about that right now. When a house is on fire you don’t stand around talking about how with the faulty wiring this was inevitable. You put out the fire. And *then* you rewire the house. You cannot rewire the house while the house is on fire.

There are many ways to eliminate the two party system in the US. Vote for third party and independent candidates in local elections where there’s less candidates running and where people, generally, are less likely to vote.

*Especially* vote for third party and independent candidates whose platforms include the demolishing of the two party system. In particular, changing laws on how party registration affects how you can vote (currently, if you’re registered as a democrat you can only vote in democratic primaries and if you’re republican you can only vote in republican primaries) and then moving on to policy changes removing party registration altogether. Both for candidates and for voters.

The only thing voting for a third party in the presidential election will accomplish is another four years of Trump. I know y’all know this. And I know y’all know that’s the worst possible outcome.

#us politics #politics mention #2020 election #ok I promise this is my last political post for now

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gallagherwitt · 5 years ago

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Why I'm voting for Biden and hope you will too...

Let me preface this by saying that I totally understand the reasons people don't want to vote for Biden. I'm not thrilled with him as a candidate either. Of all the options we had, he was my least favorite by a mile. (And yes, I support investigating allegations of sexual assault no matter what.) You don't need to explain to me why you're not voting for him -- I get it.

I also understand why people are frustrated by centrism over progressivism. How frustrated people are that we're getting more of the same when we desperately need and want change. I loathe picking the lesser of two evils in every election. You don't need to explain that to me either.

I get it. I do. I'm tired of it. I'm exhausted by it. I don't like being pushed to vote for a candidate I don't want. Never have, never will. I want to actually be excited about a candidate and optimistic that things will change when they're in office.

But I will vote for Biden because the stakes are extraordinarily high this time.

To put it succinctly, electing Biden won't bring the changes I want, but allowing Trump to get reelected will mean four years of allowing things to get so much worse, the changes I want will be vastly overshadowed by even greater problems.

The damage Trump has, in one not-yet-complete term, done to our country, to our government, to our standing in the world, to our environment, to our economy -- all of that will already take generations to undo. We can't handle four more years, especially without Trump concerning himself with being reelected. We definitely can't weather another crisis like coronavirus under his "leadership."

I want universal healthcare. Trump's administration is aggressively working to undermine the ACA and give insurance companies more power to cover fewer people.

I want a robust and well-funded public education system. DeVos is destroying what we already have, piece by piece.

I want us to move toward green energy and reduced carbon emissions. Trump is actively repealing our existing environmental regulations.

Will Biden improve healthcare, education, or environmental protections? Doubtful. But right now, our choice is between someone who will maintain the abysmal status quo and someone who will aggressively and unapologetically make things objectively - and maybe irreversibly - worse. Trump has demonstrated time and again that the only thing he can consistently be relied upon to do is the wrong thing.

So no, I'm not excited about Biden. I don't like Biden. When this is all over, I am 100% onboard with burning the Democratic party to the ground and rebuilding something progressive.

But right now, regardless of my feelings on the issue, there will be two nominees on the ballot: Biden and Trump.

Everyone keeps saying this will be a repeat of previous elections where a "meh" centrist lost, but the stakes weren't nearly as high in those elections. People weren't nearly as aware of and involved in politics because things weren't such an unmitigated disaster. The opponents weren't nearly as unapologetic in their willingness to destroy our country's institutions, pick fights with other nations, etc. They at least TRIED to sound like they cared about doing right by this country.

"Biden will lose! There's no way he can win!" That, my friends, is what we call a self-fulfilling prophecy. Biden can win IF WE VOTE FOR HIM.

You don't have to like it. You don't have to be even a little bit happy about it. You don't have to believe in a two-party system, in primaries, in anything that went into selecting the nominee. I agree with you!

But the fact is, at the end of the day, we have two options.

We can elect an adult who has a fighting chance of being reasonable, accepting oversight, engaging in negotiations, demonstrating a shred of empathy, and at the very least behaving like an adult.

Or we can have 4 more years of disaster at the hands of Trump, and I've studied history for too long to believe our country will be recognizable after that, assuming it survives at all. Trump has all the hallmarks of someone who wants to be a dictator, and he's eroding the checks and balances fast enough that he might get what he wants.

That is why I will, despite not being happy about it, vote for Biden, and I hope you will too.

#biden #joe biden #election 2020 #Trump

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Hi! I do have a question about politics and Biden/Harris. I want to preface this by saying that I am not American and all I know about the elections is from the internet & Philip DeFranco. I recently started following a youtuber who, when Bernie dropped off the race (i lov him sm), she told everyone to STILL VOTE GREEN in the elections in november, that she couldn't respect people who voted for Biden because they thought he was the lesser of two evils (1/?)

she said that if you were from a swing state and you voted for Biden, that you didn't really care about people, that you just wanted to get Trump out of office, and that it'd be better if you voted green. I felt like this was a little... harsh? extreme? because of course you (i was about to say we as if my voice counted LMAO) want to get Trump out of office. is that not the point? I really am trying to understand, I swear. I know Biden/Harris are not great, but definitely better than Trump (2/?)

and i feel like ultimately, any votes that don't go to Biden right now, are going to Trump. I don't know. I'm sorry, I'm mexican and I don't know much, but... it does worry me that, for example the last elections, the people who voted for Harambe or third party ultimately helped get Trump elected. EVERYONE would have to agree to vote third party to not get Biden or Trump elected. right? she has a pretty big following and it scares me a little that she could be influencing them. (3/3)

Ahhh yes this is such a good question!!! Thank you for asking!!! And honestly your thoughts here are really the root of the struggle with this election (at least in my opinion). I totally don’t speak for everyone so I want to make sure that’s said. I also wanna say I 1000% understand why American voters are feeling disenfranchised and not wanting to vote at all so I want to make sure I approach this with empathy because so many people’s lives are going to be affected negatively no matter who wins. My answer might be all over the place because it totally is a complex and really nuanced issue so if anything is confusing at all please lmk!!

In terms of a Biden vote meaning you don’t care about people, I think for most rational Americans, and those of us who are leftist/socialist (at least those of of us who, at the minimum would have voted for Bernie and even to a lesser extent, Warren), the point is to get Trump out of office but many people who don’t want to vote for either aren’t voting because they truly don’t feel that Biden is the better option. For a lot of people who aren’t wanting to vote at all, it’s because they feel they’re voting for just sliding scales of morality and both Trump’s and Biden’s morals (and therefore the policies they’ll choose to support) are corrupt. Trump is the obvious and outspoken fascist, but Biden is just wrapped in a veneer of progressivism because he doesn’t explicitly say he wants to disenfranchise voters, he’ll just do it by picking a VP that has a long and icky history of turning Black people into felons and therefore excising them of their right to vote ever again. (For what it’s worth, people with a felony record in CA where Kamala Harris was DA and senator can vote with some qualifiers, unlike many other states). For a lot of people, especially BIPOC, their lives are threatened under both candidates so why vote for either if neither will make them feel safe or care about their basic human rights?

It’s hard too because we do know what a Trump 2nd term will bring and it’s fascism and the removal of everyone’s rights/healthcare/access/etc. as much as he possibly can manage. With Biden those particular risks are just not at the same level. The way he is damaging is in different ways and people are unfortunately being forced to choose whether he as a president will be more harmful or less harmful than Trump, so it’s really about what each individual person is willing to sacrifice and “put up with” because clearly all of us are going to sacrifice in very painful ways (to put it lightly) no matter which candidate is picked. I do think part of it too is playing into Republican hands to make Biden look as bad as Trump, which I feel is what they did in 2016, as well, and it worked. If we’re talking about the basic, will Biden put children in cages, will he build a border wall, will he refuse to leave office if he gets elected and loses re-election, will he xyz - no, I personally do not feel he will. And if that, for me, is the bar I’m voting at, then he’s getting my vote, if that makes sense. (For me personally, it just doesn’t track that the right can get a spray-tanned used sock into power and all unite behind him in unison, but the moderate to liberal left can’t unite behind one fucking person to keep a fascist from exercising his dictator inclinations.)

One of the other big things people feel is that centrism is the death of progressivism. Malcolm X and MLK both talked a lot about this with respect to being Black and in general, a person of colour, and I’m REALLY going paraphrase it here but basically, lots of people feel that voting for Biden will make Democrats/centrists/liberals complacent. The republicans and conservative party are getting more and more extreme and far-right with every new candidate so the fear is that to be a “moderate” democrat and to be successful, you have to bend to the will of Republicans to even casually get both sides to agree, which inches each “moderate” Democrat further from being left-leaning and more toward being right-leaning because the demands of the GOP are such fucking thinly veiled fascist demands at this point, if that makes sense.

With respect to the idea of not voting for Biden meaning a vote goes to Trump, it’s sort of true and not true at the same time (in my opinion). If someone doesn’t vote for Biden, it’s not *literally* a vote for Trump because you *literally* voted for a third party candidate, but in the nuance of how electoral politics work, the American two-party and electoral system does feel like it turns it into “if you don’t vote for one of the major candidates, your vote won’t count at all.” It’s easy to say “well if everyone voted for the Green Party then they’d win”, but as we saw in 2016, the person who wins the most votes doesn’t necessarily win the presidency, so even if most of us did vote for a third party candidate, we’d all have to do so in EVERY state enough to outvote not only Biden but Trump as well. And it ABSOLUTELY would mean the states with a lot of electoral votes (in particular Florida because historically whoever wins FL’s electoral votes generally wins the presidency) would have to go toward the Green Party candidate.

I do feel that telling people if they don’t vote for a third party candidate that they don’t really care about people is harsh because a vote for Biden isn’t just a vote for the president, it’s a vote for a supreme court judge (who rules for their ENTIRE life or until they actively choose to step down - this person WILL be as disgusting as Kavanaugh under a Trump 2nd term at best and at worst, a 2nd Trump presidency will get to choose two more SCOTUS judges), it’s a vote for hundreds and hundreds of political offices approved by the President and confirmed by the Senate, it’s a vote to kick DeVos and Barr the fuck out, it’s a vote for climate change and for abortion access and LGBTQ+ healthcare, it’s a vote for someone who won’t tweet his presidency (the bar is so low), it’s a vote for representatives of the US who won’t act like fools in front of foreign powers, etc. etc. Lots of people are being forced to vote for him even when they don’t want to (like me) the same way lots of people are feeling forced to note vote at all because both of them feel dangerous to themselves in different ways.

For me, it feels like a MASSIVE gamble to say I’m not gonna vote for either because I think that we as a country need a revolution. I said this on Twitter but feeling like the revolution needs to happen before you’ll vote hinges a lot on that revolution actually happening and if we’re gonna be honest, I don’t think it will happen. Will I be a part of it? Yes. Will I attempt to dismantle the system we have? Without a doubt. But I’m also going to vote for the candidate that will keep my rights to be able to do that even if I think he’s kind of a sentient sock puppet.

Here is another post that talks about it that I agree with.

This was SO LONG and I’m super sorry!!!! I hope this at least sort of answered what you were getting at?? It’s a complicated question that people understandably have a lot of mixed feelings about so I hope my answer made sense!!

#also pls dont reblog this yall i dont want it to get traction and to get angry people in my DMs sjdkfsbdf #answered #politics post #Anonymous

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how do u respond to people who criticize you for liking biden

Well frankly, I’m tired of it and I’m tired of defending him when I feel I shouldn’t have to still be doing this level of pandering (and the attacks are pretty outlandish and some no less than disgusting conspiracy theories) because the thing is

1. Trump is a bigoted, incompetent fascist.

2. Joe Biden is the antithesis of Trump in every way.

3. Joe Biden is a good man! And a good politician qualified for the job and prepared for this critical moment!

Three is the most important and the most overlooked.

In short, my response comes down to: Joe Biden is a good, decent man. Joe Biden cares deeply. Joe Biden listens.

He is not the lesser of two evils, he is objectively better and he is a Good candidate who will make an even better president!!!

And Joe Biden’s experience matters! When republicans didn’t want to give into President Obama, Joe Biden is the one Boehner and McConnell came to the table with. Joe Biden is the one who got the deal. Again. And again. Joe Biden is the one who grew as a person and translated that in his politics and made Obama come out for gay marriage. He’s the guy!

He will surround himself with people who are experienced, who care, who are competent. He will appoint liberal judges. His EPA head will protect the environment because he believes in the climate crisis!! He got us threw a recession that was on track to become a depression - and we are now in a worse situation - not only does he know what to do and know the team to get it done but HES ALREADY ACHIEVED IT!!

The idea that he’s not progressive enough is bogus to me. I love Bernie Sanders with every ounce of my being (according to isidewith.com I agree with him 97% of the time) but he is not the guy who can get a deal with Mitch McConnell. The socialist (which I am as well) will not be able to unite the bitterly divided country the way we desperately need and that Joe will be able to. It’s one thing to stand for something, even better to fight for it but at the end of the day you need to get it done. Joe’s been getting it done his whole life.

Joe is the guy who can get things passed and he will be the most progressive president since FDR. He’s got the experience and legislative skill set of LBJ and the empathy and foresight of FDR - which we desperately need. He listens and grows and his platform is progressive and has gone more progressive because he has those qualities. We can’t hate McConnell for breaking the system with his partisanship then blow up the entire country because Joe Biden wasn’t partisan enough.

#when he said ‘hi im joe biden and i love ice cream’#me in that voice ‘im catherine and i love joe biden’#joe #joe biden #president biden

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thedreideldiaries · 5 years ago

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Hey, friends! I thought I’d take this opportunity to expound in my political choices a bit - specifically to give some context for my choice of Sanders over Warren. Note for a few of my followers who know me elsewhere: this is copied over from other social media, so if it sounds familiar that is why.

First, I want to reiterate that I like Warren. So, if anyone reading this is torn between her and any of the other clowns who have thrown their sorry hats into the ring, then please: do me and the rest of the world a favor, stop reading this right now, and go ahead and give Warren your vote. I won’t be mad. Promise. If you’re on the fence between Warren and Sanders, though, then I implore you to read on.

Okay, is it just us in here? Cool.

For my friends torn between Warren and Sanders (like I was at the beginning of the primary), I’ve tried to distill my reasoning. As you know, a lot of the discourse surrounding Warren’s campaign constructs her as a younger, female version of Sanders. If I believed that, I’d be solidly in her corner, but a few differences between them make this simply not the case. Here are the ones I find most salient:

1. Let’s look at Bernie’s base. As much as we love to talk about representation in politics, a candidate’s demographic background tells us nothing about who they’re going to fight for. Their voting base, on the other hand, tells you who has placed their confidence in that candidate’s promises.

A good proportion of Warren’s supporters are white college graduates (young and old).

By contrast Bernie’s base is overwhelmingly working class, non-white, urban, and, perhaps most tellingly, young. You could attribute that to naivete, but I think something else is going on here: the demographic group with the most to win or lose from this election are people under 30. We’re the ones who will have to live with the most devastating effects of climate change, and we’re tired of the so-called adults in our lives not taking that rather pressing concern seriously. We don’t care if our candidate is old or young - we care if they listen. Which brings me to:

2. The Youth. Young people in America are disillusioned with democracy - not because we’ve decided it’s not a good idea, but because we’ve literally never seen it in action. We live in a corporate plutocracy where the financial barriers to running for office have rendered most politicians ridiculously out of touch. And Sanders, more than any other candidate in the primary, knows how to talk to young people.

And look - I’m planning to vote for whoever wins the primary. But if 2016 is anything to go by, if the youth demographic doesn’t get a candidate they can get behind, they won’t vote strategically for the lesser of two evils. They’ll stay home, and given what the Democratic party has done for them over the past 20 or so years, I can’t say I blame them.

3. The same goes for his endorsements. I’d be out of my lane if I spent too much time talking about what Sanders wants to do for people of color, but I think it’s telling that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Rashida Tlaib, and Ilhan Omar - three politicians showing real determination to shake things up in Washington - all chose Bernie over Warren. I think it’s telling that AOC cited his campaign, not Warren’s, as her inspiration for running for office (if anyone’s a female Sanders, it’s not Warren - it’s AOC).

4. Sanders is, quite simply, the genuine article. He’s fought for important causes (climate justice, healthcare, workers’ rights) since long before they were cool. He’s *not* perfect, but criticisms of him rarely touch his political history.

Warren’s record of activism is, by contrast, unimpressive. She used to be a Republican corporate lawyer, and while I absolutely respect that someone can change their mind about politics, and I applaud her for doing so, it worries me that what changed her mind wasn’t the Iran-Contra scandal, or the AIDS crisis, or the brutal crushing of the labor movement. It was the realization that Republicans were doing capitalism wrong. I can’t exactly argue with that (show me a Republican politician who truly supports a free market and I’ll eat my beret*), but it doesn’t exactly fill me with confidence.

*This is a joke. I do not have a beret.

5. Warren’s a capitalist; Sanders is a democratic socialist, and I think the difference is important. Warren supports a wealth tax, and she wants everyone to have healthcare, and I appreciate that she has the guts to talk about those things on national television, but at the end of the day, she’s a proud capitalist who believes the system needs to be corrected, not overhauled.

Sanders is a self-professed democratic socialist, and has built a popular movement around that label. And honestly, I’m not too worried about redbaiting. Yes, it’s a common Republican tactic, but the sentiment of “yes I would vote for Democrats but not for Socialist democrats” is a rare one, if it exists at all. And if it works against any of the primary candidates, it’ll work against all of them. They used anti-Commmunist rhetoric against Obama, for goodness’ sake. Look how much of an advocate for the working class he turned out to be.

Courting the centrist vote is a waste of time. Tiptoeing around conservatives alienates left-wingers and doesn’t actually sway Republicans. It’s a bad move strategically, in that it makes us look like cowards, and morally, because it means not getting very important things done.

Sanders doesn’t want to play the game better. He wants to start a whole new game. Warren’s economics platform seems to boil down to “50s but less racist,” and while that sounds nice, it’s just not possible. We can’t go back there - we have automation now, not to mention a global economy the likes of which we barely dreamed of in the 1950s, and it’s not realistic to try to make that happen again. We need something new.

6. People over party. In a lot of ways, Warren reminds me of the best parts of The West Wing. I like that show, but it was a comforting fantasy - a vision of what the Democratic Party could have been like with a little more gumption and a lot more luck. It never happened because the Democratic party and politics aren’t like that in real life. I have confidence in Sanders because his loyalty isn’t to the Democratic Party. It’s to the American people. He’s proved that over and over again over the course of his political career.

7. Bernie is an organizer. The “not me - us” slogan is very telling. Democracy is participatory. We don’t just need a candidate with a plan to fix everything. We need a candidate with a plan who acknowledges that the people hold the real power. We need a candidate who respects the will of the people and inspires them to get involved. We can’t win this election and stop thinking about politics. We never get to stop thinking about politics. We need someone who can inspire people to keep fighting.

The heart attack was a big deal, but the truth is, it’s never been about Bernie as an individual. His immediate reaction after getting out of the hospital was “I’m lucky to have healthcare; everyone should have healthcare; let’s get back to work.” That, more than anything, has given me the confidence that Bernie wants his policies to last long after he’s gone.

Also, people regularly have heart attacks and live another several decades. This is *literally* why we have vice presidents. If Sanders can get elected and pick a good VP and a cabinet (plus, you know, fill any Supreme Court vacancies that happen to arise over his tenure), his health won’t matter as much, because we don’t need a messiah right now. We need a resurgence of participatory democracy. We need more AOCs to take the stage. We need young people at the polls, not just in 2020, but beyond that.

8. I don’t like to talk about electability for a couple of reasons. One: centrists love to bring it up, usually in the service of talking about how policies they have zero stake in will never work. Two: Trump was supposed to be unelectable, and we all saw how that turned out.

That said: Warren’s currently polling third, which is not a great place to be. And while I don’t share some people’s cynicism about Warren, I have to agree that her response to Trump’s attacks has not impressed me. I’m confident that if Trump attacks Sanders, Bernie won’t take the bait, because he’s so on-message you can’t get him off-message. Like I said: he had a heart attack and immediately spun it back into the healthcare conversation.

And the polls are clear: head to head, Sanders beats Trump. Warren’s chances are far dicier.

9. And the most important issue, without which nothing else really matters: the climate crisis. I’d love it if we could wait for the country’s ideas to catch up to Sanders’ socialist rhetoric, but the truth is we are running out of time. I’m voting for Sanders because I have two nieces under 5 years old and a nephew who was just born, and I want them to grow up on a habitable planet, and they won’t get a chance to vote on that. I’m doing it because I want to have kids of my own someday, and while I absolutely respect the choice of anyone deciding to reproduce right now, I don’t have the emotional energy to raise a family during an apocalypse. And while I like Warren, and she’s expressed support for a Green New Deal, Sanders is the only candidate I trust to both beat Trump in the general and put his foot down to the DNC and their ilk.

10. Foreign policy!

First of all: guess who else hates American Imperialism? That’s right; it’s Bernie Sanders. Significantly, he has the guts to bring up America’s habit of meddling in Latin America’s democratically elected governments, which is something you pretty much never hear about from pretty much any other candidate.

https://www.vox.com/2019/6/25/18744458/bernie-sanders-endless-wars-foreign-affairs-op-ed

Foreign policy came up a lot during 2016 primary, with Clinton’s supporters trotting out the bizarre argument that a long history of hawkish policies is better than no policies at all. What with all that, I was surprised to learn that Sanders is actually quite well-traveled and has a long history of trying to mend fences between the U.S. and other world powers: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/02/bernie-sanders-foreign-policy/470019/

When it comes to climate change and foreign policy, Sanders acknowledges not only that it requires innovation (let’s not forget his early and vehement support for the Green New Deal), but also international cooperation. From the link below:

“To both Sanders and his supporters around the world, it is impossible to fight climate change without international cooperation. To that end, a group called the Progressive International was announced at a convention last year held by the Sanders Institute, a think tank founded by the presidential contender’s wife and son.

“The network of left-wing politicians and activists hopes to fight against "the global war being waged against workers, against our environment, against democracy, against decency,” according to its website.”

He’s also popular with left-wing leaders around the world, and it’s those kinds of politicians who we need to get us out of the climate crisis.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/04/bernie-sanders-global-popularity-1254929

And finally, to stray briefly into comparison: again, I like Warren, but even so, I like her better domestically than internationally. The progressivism she touts at home comes up short abroad. I’m sure you’ve heard about it already, but I think it’s worth remembering that Warren voted for Trump’s military budget in 2017; Sanders didn’t. She talks a lot about peace, but her history on foreign issues looks pretty similar to that of other centrist democrats. This is a problem not only in terms of American Imperialism, but also because the U.S. military is one of the world’s leading causes of climate change. Her voting history and her cozy relationship with defense contractors have me pretty worried. This article goes into more detail about her history with various foreign powers as well as her general attitudes on American imperialism:

https://jacobinmag.com/2019/05/elizabeth-warren-foreign-policy

We all pretty much knew what we were getting with Clinton. Warren worries me not only because she seems to align with the rest of the party on our endless foreign wars, but because she keeps her support for the military-industrial complex behind a facade of progressive rhetoric that reminds me of the early Obama years. We can’t be let down like that again. Even if we ignore the devastating human cost, the planet doesn’t have time.

Further Reading - obviously I don’t agree with everything in every one of these pieces, but they offer a leftist critique that often goes missing from other, more superficial problems people bring up about Warren.

The polling bases of the primary candidates: https://www.people-press.org/2019/08/16/most-democrats-are-excited-by-several-2020-candidates-not-just-their-top-choice/pp_2019-08-16_2020-democratic-candidates_0-06/?fbclid=IwAR2G8np2q9N4P6DArdI-gPhA5Wp_SYDZPKQDpDhxVZ4YbwnAEmFd65swMOA

An interesting take on Warren’s policies vs Bernie’s movement: https://jacobinmag.com/2019/04/elizabeth-warren-policy-bernie-sanders-presidential-primary?fbclid=IwAR14wWjYDNuNMrXN7YjVFFFHXmoMWKpDVqBcbPBlQUUrA354iIyRAbKXG30

An opinion piece on the contrast between them:

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2019/08/bernie-sanders-elizabeth-warren-democratic-party-elite-2020-presidential-race?fbclid=IwAR3vA54QveM2cCTxQ2BbVXh_IICgTxweKVBLMRjhSFyyAdspnibJ50seDjY

Another one:

https://forward.com/opinion/432561/the-case-for-bernie-sanders-the-only-real-progressive-in-the-race-sorry/?fbclid=IwAR1vwONZ7azJQcoeo_KYNYiJ8ekzHhJsZ4Ms0UzDHI59j7Q6oio-5uJOGcI

Warren’s political history:

More about that from a different source:

https://www.currentaffairs.org/2019/10/why-criticize-warren?fbclid=IwAR0NTP0cRbSnr-a6HCuxE-4SCJZEqU2EAL1Gnx70FME-9UMBg-xYE5t7g7Y

A prequel to the former (beware - this one’s scathing as heck):

https://www.currentaffairs.org/2019/09/the-prospect-of-an-elizabeth-warren-nomination-should-be-very-worrying?fbclid=IwAR03d5I5j72s4kQC9wgRSrXnbmWsp_9HUvRWBZwzcfsT9RsZP-lSAX4aPz0

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