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whatudottu · 4 months ago

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Combined with the mortifying realisation that loopified Odile (now named Nokosu) took me multiple hours to draw the first time, I decided to try and make one speak in Japanese :) :) :)

The Japanese sentences will be under the cut plus a more literal translation and some research notes-

自分は遺残の神である。「遺す」と呼んでもいいし、「残」の字を使ってもいい。お前の草白鳥は、すでにお前の小烏から「イサ」という名前を取っている。二人の人間に同じ名前を使うのは混乱しないか？ヴォーガルド語の「サ」の発音は「ザ」に近いので、特に必要である。そうだろう？

or in Romaji

Jibun wa izan no kamidearu. 'Nokosu' to yonde mo īshi, 'zan' no ji o tsukatte mo ī. Omae no kusa hakuchō wa, sudeni omae no ko karasu kara `Isa' to iu namae o totte iru. Futari no ningen ni onaji namae o tsukau no wa konran shinai ka? Vu~ōgarudo-go no 'sa' no hatsuon wa 'za' ni chikainode, tokuni hitsuyōdearu. Sōdarou?

Literally translated Nokosu says;

I am the god of remains. You may call me “Nokosu", or you may use the [Chinese character] for “remain". Your grass swan has already taken the name “Isa” from your little crow. Isn't it confusing to use the same name for two people? It is especially necessary since the pronunciation of “sa” in Vaugarde is close to “za”. Wouldn't you agree?

And for the explanations of a monolingual English speaker with barely even surface level understanding of Japanese.

Throughout my entire journey, Jisho.org kanji dictionary has been my saving grace and backbone in my choice of Nokosu's name and what first and second person pronouns one uses. My initial goal was to find a name for survival or persistance which lead to me finding terms like; 存続 (sonzoku) meaning survival, 存 meaning exist and 続 meaning continue; 耐久 (taikyuu) meaning endurance, 耐 meaning the affix -proof (of bulletproof or soundproof), 久 meaning long time; and finally 遺残 (izan) meaning persistence, 遺 meaning bequeath, 残 meaning remainder.

To kinda help expand my knowledge of the terms I was using, I also used a combination of google translate (primarily for the pronunication of words less the actual translations) and DeepL to kinda get the sweet deets and found that izan had meant - a more common definition - remains. It. Was. Perfect.

Perfect save for one thing... Isa- Sure, Isabeau is his full name and written down Isabeau and Izan are unique enough, but technically functionally the 'sa' in French (and thus in Vaugardian) is more voiced than the 'sa' in Japanese and sounds more like the 'za' in izan, and to have Odile refer to Nokosu as Izan when "only [Siffrin] call[s] him Isa" is an in-game quote; to say I was miffed was an understatement.

But then... I turned to words that use those individual kanji and hoped to mix and match to find what I wanted.

My first direction was to turn each kanji into hiragana to find their pronunciations and piece together a word from that; 遺 in isolation is noko, 残 in isolation is zan. Finding the term no ko zan-kiri (のこざん切り) on google gave me 'chopped into pieces' which well- look at my design that's a lot of pieces! のこ残 or nokozan (turning the first character into hiragana of course) lead me to 'remnants of a servant's body' as it's main translation on DeepL, but it also provided 'backbreaking exertions' as well as 'remnants of a defeated soldier'. Plus using DeepL again izan itself full kanji gave me 'vestiges' 'bequest' 'afterlife' and the ever present 'remains'.

None of these however were getting me closer to an ample replacement for izan however, not until I returned to jisho.org to pick out words from a list using either kanji.

Turns out, both 遺 and 残 can be pronounce 'noko' so long as it is followed by the hiragana す or su. And guess what either spelling of the word translates into? The 遺す version meaning to leave (behind), to bequeath, and the 残す version meaning that same thing but more, to leave (undone), to save/to reserve, to stay (in the ring).

SO! SO! That is how Nokosu came to be named! But- what about the Japanese phrase I wrote?

Well- let's stay on the Nokosu theme now that any Japanese readers in my audience have already processed the meta-joke that can only really exist in Japanese writing (or maybe not a joke but like... a fourth wall acknowledgement). Nokosu already introduces oneself as 遺す though doesn't mention how to spell it (since it's already spelt out to the reader), then introduces the second variant of the spelling exclusively referring to the second kanji of Izan 残 as zan. Maybe it's not really a joke but it'd kinda be like the 'you use he/they, it's in your profile' equivalent.

I suppose an attempt at a joke was Odile thinking 'a very wordy Expression', but that's mostly from observing that translations through DeepL stopped run on sentences occuring from English to Japanese so... I have no idea if constant uses of commas isn't particularly Japanese, at least the joke would be that Nokosu is particularly more chatty than Odile might normally be.

And once again, people who know Japanese may have noticed the use of jibun (自分) and omae (お前) for Nokosu's pronouns. Lowkey I was thinking initially of making Nokosu's first person pronoun oira a la sans undertale 'country bumpkin' but found more interesting things with jibun and omae that I settled on those versions. jibun, a neutral formality pronoun literally meaning 'oneself', when used as a personal pronoun (like Nokosu does) it's with a sense of separation of distance to the self; I also found out in my translation hunt that jibun can be used as a second person pronoun which is very fucking fitting given who Nokosu talks to, but that's specifically from in the Kansai dialect and - well - I can't say for certain where Odile hails from especially since Japan in ISAT is Ka Bue, but she'd be well educated enough to connect the dots that Nokosu lays down. On the other hand, Nokosu's second person pronoun is omae (Fist of the North Star fans will remember it from the very iconic 'omae wa mou shindearu'), which is incredibly informal and very rude when said to elders (though in age technically Nokosu is older) as it's meant to express the speaker's higher status in non-casual relationships.

To note, though omae can be used by both genders, it and jibun are mostly used by men and in the case of omae it's more commonly used to refer to their wife or lover. This has a little extra significance to background headcanon where Nokosu calls Odile Nanafushi (七節) or literally walking stick AKA a stickbug as ones version of 'Stardust', but sometimes Nokusu would split the word in half and refer to Odile as 'Nana' which in English sounds like one is referencing a grandma but (BUT) I'm specifically using the French term which translates to 'chick' 'babe' 'girlfriend'. So when I saw that omae can also be used for that purpose, it really goes to show that at some point Nokosu had the time to perfectly craft a version of oneself that does get on Odile's nerves and has the gall to get away with it at least initially under the assumption that one is an Expression.

I've been trying to make this flow from one point to another but I don't know how to jump to Japanese nicknames, at least not the metaphorical ones that I used here (and took inspiration from the Word of God Odile nickname for Siffrin 'Little Crow'). What little I do know about Japanese nicknames is that they may take alternate readings of single kanji as a nickname or repeat a character, though that is in reference to Japanese names in the first place. I did see something about the metaphorical sort of nicknames that have connotations in the language itself but- honestly this is my most monolingual English moment yet. I will explain however what I did decide.

草白鳥 or kusa hakuchou is the character for grass 草, and the kanji combination for swan 白鳥. In DeepL however 草白鳥 translates to grasshopper and though I signifcantly lack the cultural context to know what grasshopper symbology has in Japan, I do know in English you call someone a 'grasshopper' because they're tall. But why start with grass swan at all? Well- maybe it's a stretch for whatever fantasy time-period ISAT takes place in to use an internet term but, 草 has been used in internet slang to mean lol or haha since 'w' is also a version of lol or haha, and when spammed like so - wwwwwwwwwwwww - it looks like grass. The reason for swan would be because of I guess this idea of beauty? Less due to Odile specifically considering Isabeau beauty and more so taking note of his care to his appearance - whether it be how he presents his perception of his appearance or how he makes people belief a different thing about what his views about his appearance are, white swan or black swan - and that whatever the case is, he does take pride in maintaining that appearance; a retroactive meaning to the nickname, especially when Isa starts more casually bringing up the fact he *had* Changed, would be an incidental reference to the ugly duckling, who ended up not being a duckling at all and was a swan all along. Whether the nickname actually works or not I don't really know, but what it boils down to Odile's nickname for him (and thus Nokosu's only title for him beyond fighter) would really mean 'funny (tall) beauty' which would probably fluster Odile to admit it as Isa would hearing it.

An interesting thing I found while finding kanji for little crow (specifically 小烏) was that there is actually kind of already a word for it already, Kogarasu Maru or 小烏丸, AKA "Little Crow" which is a unique tachi sword rumoured to be crafted by a legendary swordsmith like-! I don't know if that was at all intentional on Insertdisc5's part (and if I should change the pronunciaton of the romaji version of the original text to kogarasu), but beyond Siffrin's little habit to collect every little thing that shines and doesn't, what do you mean there's a unique tachi sword named 'little crow' that's like literally so Siffrin-coded I SWEAR TO GOD!

Oh, and I played ISAT in Japanese to get the correct spelling of Vaugarde and 語 (go) is just the suffix for language AKA the difference between Nihon the country and Nihongo the language okay BYE!

#odile #odile isat #nokosu #in stars and time #isat #isat spoilers #isat act 6 spoilers #fanart #if i spent 8 hours drawing nokosu the first time- i spent hours explaining to y'all how i named one and how i wrote the japanese #aka a lot of translations but ones specifically informed by what little understanding i have of japanese which is barely anything really #stretching my 'making a japanese character name' muscles but not too far since i'm not using the kanji to make an actual human name #rather i'm using a term directly lifted from the dictionary since this isn't meant to be used as a human name #nokosu after the loops would certainly consider using a more human name #even if one uses the kanji present in izan which thankfully won't be hard to find thanks to the wonderful jisho.org who also has a names ta #which also defines the type of name from given to family even to place #anyway i'm a one post wonder let me give you odile and nokosu first meeting #the more i draw details of the favour tree the more i cook i think look at that fucking root oh my god

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thedreadvampy · 3 months ago

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lmao it is undeniably true that I am Depressi Spaghetti but you know. fuck it we continue.

#red said #i am hoping!!!! that this is January Brain speaking #it FEELS as if I've been in an extended depressive episode since like. may or June #but depression is a Filthy Fucking Liar so that may or may not be true #either way it's very tedious. there is no reason for this. i am very loved and cared for. i am doing well. it is just that my brain is soup #SAD AND SELF-LOATHING SOUP #we cannot resist the Soup we can only swim on through #idk it is like. i feel as if i don't exist beyond work i feel like I'm losing myself i feel like I'm very alone #this all FEELS very true even though actually i have many passions i do many things and i am booked to the gills with social engagements #so you know. what's it all about? The Soup. possibly also The Dark.#possibly also also that many people i care about are going through really rough times and I'm kinda. not?#and that's WEIRD both that I'm not and that I've developed like a level of boundaries where people i live going through it #doesn't mean I'm in a constant state of panic.#and slash or. where I'm too depressi spaghetti to have the energy to be there for them #i don't THINK it's that. that's never been a thing for me before really.#but idk i think it's like when i reach the end of my to do list i panic that I've forgotten something vital #i am not panicking and that makes me feel. strange and empty and immobile.#even though in actuality I'm in constant motion like. barely a free moment. but i FEEL static i FEEL inactive #because I'm not in 24/7 crisis mode #and then bc i feel inactive i don't understand why I'm so tired. I'm so tired because I'm ALWAYS DOING THINGS.#but also i do feel kind of. numb. everything is just running past me. except sometimes i feel spasms of grief cause like #I've ended or majorly changed a lot of relationships this past year #but yeah i think the numbness is PROBABLY the January of it all and will PROBABLY lift in March/April #and if it doesn't. well. fuck it. we continue. i am yet young.

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heavenly-delusions · 11 months ago

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Thistle from dungeon meshi is soo relatable. Hes like "i just wanna vibe w my blorbos forever and ever and ever". and hes so based for that actually

#AND valid #dungeon meshi #been thinking about how i feel the gangs™️ confrontation w thistle is waaaaay too fast.#like there were barely a proper convo before he was munched by the golden lion...#i want more content about him.. like theres such a hype at first when dungeon meshi just nonstop talk about “the lunatic magician” blah bla #then when the demons power is lifted (+hinted hes still alive) we dont even see much of him. then d story ends #delicious in dungeon #dungeon meshi thistle #i diagnose him w bpd. hes such a bpd girly #miss kui. thistle redemption arc when?#respectfully.....

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wavesoutbeingtossed · 3 months ago

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Thinking about your dreams/fire post which led me to “you paint dreamscapes on the wall” and then as always I come back to Coney Island of “do you miss the rogue who coaxed you into paradise and then left you there” because he was drawing these dreams and making her think they were possible and then didn’t follow through

yessssssssssss!!!!!!

tbh I think I had the dreamscapes line in a previous draft of it too haha.

And it's not to get into the ~discourse~ of it, but that's just the crux of it: someone convincing you that you could build this life together, where you take steps to make that happen and put all your trust in them, only for them to reneg? It's such a blow. It's why the double-whammy is so painful because that's what BOTH of the main muses did (and why I think it's so easy to see both of them in so many of the songs but I don't want to annoy people about that on main because at this point we all have our own thoughts about things and I'm not here to convince anyone and in any case it doesn't even matter because it's all just art after all ANYWAY) in very different but equally painful ways, with a secret third party being the one to do it first as people so eloquently put it when the album came out.

I don't know if this makes sense, but it's like the difference between "stars meticulously glued next to the ceiling fan" vs "impressionist paintings of heaven turned out to be fakes": to me, one is like, a concrete life that was once built albeit doomed from the start and then destroyed (intentionally or not) vs. one selling a lie from the get-go. One is painful because is was once so close they could taste it and it crumbled under the weight of their problems, vs the other one that preyed on those dreams and never intended to follow through. (But then again I can also see other interpretations of that line but I digress lol.)

This is a tangent, but it's why the "bravery" theme is so interesting to me on TTPD. Because yes, on the surface it's about the conman who she sets up in the epilogue as carrying a sword he couldn't lift (...), but underneath it all is the one-time prince who promised these things she believed, and we see it across multiple albums. Part of TTPD to me is her saying, "I wasn't crazy to believe this, right? Because it happened. You promised these things. But you didn't follow through. So why am I the one in the wrong for setting these expectations?" And yes, she says that outright about the conman, but it's also the larger story of the hothouse flower, too.

(I actually saw a clip the other day of an old interview -- I think from Red era -- where Taylor says she's trusting to a fault, and I think that plays a role in all this along with ~all the things~ at play.)

It's not to get into the muse discourse, but one of the most heartbreaking things really is this idea of the person you pinned your hopes on, who you love and believe loves you back, promising you the things you long for most in this world and at the time saying they'll be by your side through it all, only for them to cut and run (whether physically or emotionally) when the going gets tough. It's devastating, because what are you supposed to do when the person you love and trust the most, who's world you shaped yours around, ends up pulling away? And what's worse, leaves you feeling like it's somehow your fault? You're left with all these dreams unfulfilled, but no clear exit route on how to make it out or sense of self in some ways.

I could speak about this forever and add another tangent about the epilogue but I fear this is already long enough haha.

#Pouring out my heart to a stranger but I didn't pour the whiskey #soberqueerinthewild #like yes i see how 'you said i needed a brave man then proceeded to play him until i believed it to' can be the 'carrying a sword he could #barely lift' dude who ran away #but i could also see it as the 'rogue who coaxed you into paradise then left you there' person too #and ultimately it doesn't matter because the end result is the same #whether it's the hothouse flower who bloomed in the greenhouse under ideal circumstances but wilted in the cold air #or the conman whose dreams were fake all along for far more sinister reasons #she ends up shattered #like her dreams are real even if the intentions are not if that makes sense #like yes you can probably all tell how I interpret the songs #but i'm trying to be open-minded and welcoming of all oomfs because ultimately we all just love and connect with the music #and again ultimately the story ends the same way #why am i rambling i have no idea #writing letters addressed to the fire #the tortured poets department

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graveyardxghoul · 1 year ago

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My poor boy.

I am sorry, I am so sorry.

It is I am sorry. I presented you an impossible dilemma. You did only what you thought honorable, I am sure. I kiss you for it.

#rome hbo #finally rly using my blog like a lil scrapbook or smth #im pasting pictures in my journal+scribbling around them #i discovered i cld make gifs on my phone+even tho theyre terrible i can finally keep track of scenes+things tht i have trouble finding #anyways hes so ashamed he can barely lift his head+meet caesars eyes..#my gifs #i found a caesar/brutus fitzfranklin reincarnation fic+i just kno its going to blast my brain to pieces when i read it

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poebrey · 2 years ago

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strange new worlds is not doing enough strange or new for me

#strange new worlds #snw critical #the nostalgia bait show is failing to both provide nostalgia or give me a new reason to watch #the writing is so solid overall and it’s so pretty and the cast is giving so much effort and yet it just feels stuck #and impeded by canon #and the episodic format both helps and hinders this #I get that it’s supposed to TOS-esque in that way but there’s a reason why I routinely forget half that show #as opposed to TNG or DS9 #also in this specific ep DSC did so much heavy lifting to give us a plausible new Spock and SNW Spock is…..#not right even just in comparison to his original appearance let alone TOS Spock #where’s his bitchiness and his love of science and his barely logically supported batshit ideas where did he go #it’s like for every five minutes Spock being himself #we get an episode of purposefully OOC Spock and it’s throwing me off #and that would be fine but other than him and Pike no one is getting substantial development #how was season 1 better with this im so very confused

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cowboyinternist · 11 months ago

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to be entirely honest i think they make WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY too much money off of this podcast to be treating it the way that they do

#oh yeah all we have to do to make tens of thousands of dollars every month on patreon #is write a mediocre-bad podcast episode every two weeks!#nd our content for said patreon will be so far and few in between #and the content will be so irrelevant #that we will barely have to lift a finger for it at all!#the most fan interaction we’ll engage with is a zoom meeting every now and then #but we’ll hold it at such a time that most of our mainly american fanbase with a normal 9-5 job #can’t even attend! genius!!!#god i hate them #wtnv #welcome to night vale

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neixins · 21 days ago

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boss keeps doing everything in his power to piss me OFF

#like hello what do u mean we have to be done sorting the storage unit on thursday by 4pm #and the brawns of the operation won’t get there before 12????#two of us shouldn’t be doing any heavy lifting???????#and if his sons can come help then there won’t be enough room in the cab for me and the storage unit’s in a different town and I DONT DRIVE #i’m not paying for a cab just for myself like hello u pay us barely above minimum wage HELLOOOOO #and don’t even get me started on the amount of tasks i’m somehow supposed to get done outside of that #UGH whatever. whatever i’m so mad

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blindchandelure · 7 months ago

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I got vaccinated yesterday, and my arm is so sore 😭

#I can barely even lift it #it was a struggle to get dressed this morning

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naivety · 6 months ago

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have to go pick up a washing machine tomorrow a coworker snagged for $75 [!] and lug it all the way upstairs [....] to hook up before somehow draining the old one [...] because it broke mid-cycle washing sheets not once but twice thrown up on by cat [...] and we can't even get it to drain [....] 🙏 and hopefully finish putting together a 2 weeks late little birthday gift box for my sibling because i literally forgot until the night before and wanted to die. and get my axle looked at cause it might be bent. day off ❤️

#j.txt #like i am unfathomably fortunate to have found a replacement like 3 days after it broke before i had to think abt like #driving to the next town over to use their laundromat but #even when people help me i cannot describe to them how little energy reserves i have that my day off is supposed to help replenish #and the coworker's dad is who im buying it from and also a mechanic so he's like he can finally look at your axle while we're at it!#and i can help you drain the old one and take it to the dump!#and im like ur literally an it's a wonderful life angel to me rn. but i have the energy to do like 1 of those things. barely #and i am already forcing myself to add at least 1 of the add ons too like i can't do all of that on my day off #i mean i could but i would like to not feel like killing myself 🙏 i am very over dramatic but that's #what it feels like to be helped to solve a problem but like i still have to solve it #which i want to and am thankful i get to but it still requires Effort i barely have 🤘😔#and also all of this specifically after my first week in my life having pretty significant enough to be alarming back pain #seemingly spontaneous. and reconsidering opting in for medical insurance bc of it while open enrollment is still. open #even though it will take a significant chunk out of my paychecks which is why i've opted out for 4 years before now 🙏#but i can barely sit in a chair when it's bad let alone lift shit at work and not knowing what caused it is alarming 👍#wow i'm really chatty today god. why is life so Much Happening All the Time.......

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crayonurchin · 8 months ago

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Today I learned you can get a burn blister from using a hot water bottle

#I have awful lower back pain because I lift heavy shit all the time #and today I twinged something so strapped a hot water bottle to my back cuz I have crap to get done #come to shower time and OH HEY THAT'S A BIG FUCKING TRIO OF BLISTERS HUH #I did not know a hot water bottle could do that :|#it wasn't even on my bare skin I was wearing a thick dress today!!!#...#so anyway

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seiwas · 1 year ago

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SEL WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT PARAMEDIC IWAIZUMI BECAUSEEEEE..........

he could make my heart stop right there

#FOR REAL #DONT EVEN START W ME #DONT EVENNNNN #he must do cpr on me NOW #NOOOOOOW.#(sorry if this is inappropriate)#ANYWAY BEING FO REALSIES #i think paramedic iwaizumi is hot and he’d be soooooooo nice and it’d be so inappropriate to be crushing on ur paramedic while ure #half delirious in pain but hes lifting u up and checking ur vitals and mAYBEEEE u want to stay passed out instead #but hes talking to you and youre barely cognizant of anyth around u but its a low hum #a steady lull thats comforting and grounding and hes asking u to look at him to blink once . twice . to nod #youre doing everything but can barely comprehend it bc all u see is green green green #and youre let off after a doctor checks on you but iwaizumi’s still checking on someone else and you dont knowww #is this the last time youll see him again?#should you approach him? is that even appropriate?#gOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD #seiwa.🤍#crying hes sOOOO #kit.🪩#ask #rep #kagelun

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terresdebrume · 7 months ago

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Frjfhehsk I'm looking at the donor profiles for pre selections and I'm like. How do you even pick a sperm donor anyway like?? My criteria are wide open (1. Okay to meet the offspring maybe 2. ???) and yet I'm having a hard time figuring out which ones I like beyond the initial "okay that baby picture is cute"

I've narrowed things down a little bit by picking some family colorings (brown or green eyes, brown/black hair) but beyond that all of it is a lot more nebulous tbh. Plus I think those couple comments about how if you have a kid with a donor from a different culture the kid will grow up feeling cut off from their heritage got to me* because now I feel almost like I don't have a right to basically any donor who didn't list a French ethnicity (there are 2 and neither of their baby pictures speak to me tbh)

I'm trying to sort through via a scale of "Yeah sure I could learn more about this culture" to "The laws over there want me dead so let's not open the possibility of having Baby ask to visit on the basis of the donor" but it feels very like. Mechanical.

*arguably not 100% a bad thing. I think there's probably a bit of selection bias in the fact that this is the main narrative we hear from people conceived with sperm donors in that idk that the people who grew up knowing where they came from and are fine with not knowing will necessarily join forums and association and stuff, BUT it's also worth knowing that this can happen! Where it gets dicey for me is that frankly I'm signing up for a baby, not for a lifelong commitment to a country I might not have any interest in beyond 'sure why not visit someday' and also I don't believe genetics automatically equate to 'I'm feeling/missing a connection'. Like, I don't have any connection to my Belgian side and not a lot of connection to my Guadeloupean side, but the Belgian side leaves me pretty indifferent tbh. I don't have enough of a relationship with my dad's side of the family for that.

#Matt has a life #Shit from home #I think part of the problem is that this whole process is presented and streamlined as something very rational #where you're expected to weigh your options like you would for a couch #expect that's barely even how I pick my flats #For the one I'm moving into I had 4 criteria (space light lift and less than 15mn away from work & the friend I want to Nanny share with)#and the rest was Vibes #And honestly I think this is going to be the main deciding factor there too #Vibes

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