#I JUST HATE THE UNJUSTIFIED HATE TOWARDS HIM

[sanelyinsaneshadowx2-0]

Rant ahead. WARNING: SPOILERS!!!!

Okay, let's clear a few things up.

Based on the spoilers, we're all super pissed at Jameson. And I'll be honest, so am I. His reaction towards Grayson and Lyra really pissed me off, but if we think about it, is his reaction really out of nowhere or unjustified for that matter? In the Hawthorne Legacy, we saw how he crashed out and spiralled when Avery was in coma, and come on, are we actually being serious right now? Avery's literally the love of his life, the other half who completed him and made him want to be a better person for her, so yes, I think, that Avery being kidnapped rightfully triggered Jameson, even if his reaction to it wasn't likeable.

Now see, the difference is that, while I think that Jameson panicking was reasonable, him blaming Lyra was NOT. Him telling his own brother to go to hell was NOT. BUT, he obviously doesn't trust Lyra. BECAUSE IT WAS US, WE, WHO GET LYRA'S PERSPECTIVE. To Jameson, she's just another outsider, and it's naturally instinct for him to think she's a threat like Eve. If you put yourself in Jameson's place, you wouldn't actually be so open to trusting Lyra would you? Even though my girl has done nothing and deserves the whole world. He thinks that Grayson just has a soft spot for her, the way he did with Eve.

On that note, let's proceed towards Lyra. Now I will forvever be biased towards my girl, but if I see it from a neutral side, you actually cannot blame Lyra for any if that. The girl literally had no clue about the Hawthornes' messed up life or history. There is no way she actually knew how dangerous Eve was. And Eve was a lying manipulative little piece of shit. Even Grayson was manipulated by her, so there's actually no way you can blame Lyra for opening it all up to Eve, IF that's what she did, because once again, it's only some parts of the novel we've read so we're still making opinions by those crumbs.

So yes, Jameson panicking and getting angry was probably a justified reaction, but no, he shouldn't have been quick to blame Lyra for it, or fight with his brother all over again, but then again, Jameson has said so himself MULTIPLE times, that he's impulsive and selfish, so Avery being taken away from him probably made him react that way, even if I want to knock the guy's teeth out.

BUT, you guys please, I do NOT hate Jameson or Avery for that matter, and NO, I do not think that Jennifer ruined his character, like if Avery gets kidnapped, how else do you actually think he would've acted?

I don't think Lyra deserves hate either, because well, my reasons are stated above. Once again, this isn't targeted to anyone, but I don't think any character deserves hate at this point because they're all complex characters.

So, CHILL PEOPLE. We've been too quick to have opinions, MYSELF INCLUDED, but if we think about it reasonably, none of these character are entirely in the wrong here.

[sleepymarimo]

𝐣𝐮𝐬𝐭 𝐚 𝐥𝐢𝐭𝐭𝐥𝐞 𝐥𝐨𝐧𝐠𝐞𝐫.

summary: one time zoro pushes your affections away and another time when he begrudgingly accepts them. pairing: zoro x gn!reader cw: none, zoro being a cutie and confused about soft feelings an: just some fluff bc I have a headache and I wanna give him a hug :( wc: 1.2k

it seemed like zoro had always let the oddest things to happen to him.

he’d let chopper climb atop his head, tiny hooves brushing through strands of moss green hair. when the reindeer’s soft fur tickled the skin of his cheeks, he didn’t blink.

he’d let usopp cling to him in fear, idly looking around with a bored expression as the sniper tugged at his hakama or pushed him right toward whatever threat lay before them.

the list goes on and on, the ever stoic swordsman never really putting in the effort to actively resist his crew mates or the occasional curious animal.

with that in mind, you figured that you’d be able to get away with some gestures of your own.

after a particularly rough battle, you’d been so utterly happy that your arms wrapped around the rugged swordsman, squeezing him tight.

you blame it on the adrenaline, not those pesky feelings of yours that you refuse to acknowledge.

it was an innocent embrace, imbued with nothing but affection and glee, yet that didn’t stop him from tensing at your touch.

the next thing you remember is being pushed away, gently but firmly, and feeling dumbfounded.

“the hell are you doing?” he had roughly questioned, brushing off your much-too-sweet touches from his person.

uncomfortable.

he was uncomfortable and he hated it, not particularly fond of feeling so vulnerable from something as simple as a damn hug.

looking between him and your still awkwardly stretched out arms, you come to a sort of realization.

zoro didn’t just let things happen to him. no, he allowed them. every touch and tug and pinch was permitted, actively decided upon by the marimo.

that fiasco was almost a whole week ago, the thousand sunny now barreling through the rolling waves of the sea in the hopes of reaching a winter island.

even as the air became colder, the clouds darker, you continued to simmer.

unjustifiable annoyance creeps into your brain just thinking about how he pushed you away, your cheeks burning with embarrassment and hurt alike.

he didn’t feel that bad.

the swordsman had boundaries, which was understandable, set in place for the sake of self-preservation.

that small flip his heart did when he felt you hug him? the boiling heat that clawed up from his chest to his cheeks and to the tips of his ears? absolutely not.

he didn’t want to deal with that, especially after a fight and with the rest of the crew watching.

it took time for you to adjust your actions, to maneuver around the barriers he’d set in place for himself.

being the stubborn little thing you were, you decided to throw yourself into the jaws of the tiger once more.

you try your luck on a brumal morning, a light frost already starting to form on the deck. it seems like the water is still, the sea easily parting as the ship effortlessly glides on its surface.

the observation deck is your destination, where you’re sure the marimo will be.

and indeed he is, outwardly unaffected by the biting cold.

meticulous as ever, at least when it comes to his craft, he sits on a mat and polishes his blades. shoulders relaxed, but eyes sharp, he goes about his task with precision.

he knows you’ve just entered the observation room, thinking that a nod of his head and a small grunt is enough of a greeting.

the scent of steel and polish hang in the air as he continues, figuring that you’d come in to grab something.

he doesn’t expect to be what you want. what else was he good for besides swinging a damn sword around?

you mask your nerves and step inside, taking brisk steps towards the swordsman. it’s now or never, you think, quick to take a seat behind him on the mat.

with slow and gentle movements, you situate yourself into your preferred position.

your chest presses into his back, the rough material of his shirt not enough to keep you from resting your cheek there.

your inner thighs hug his outer ones, the firmness of the muscle beneath forcing you to hold back a shudder. sealing the deal, you loosely wrap your arms around his midsection.

“good morning.” you mumble, speaking to him as if he were a deer about to bolt.

silence is what you get in return and you wish you could peer into that thick skull of his to see what he was thinking.

warm.

that’s how zoro feels at first, before something akin to discomfort starts to gnaw away at him.

his hands come to a stop, his head lifting as he stared ahead and processed just what the hell you were doing.

there’s a split second of stillness- a period of time where he decides if he wants to revel in your touch or bask in his solitude for a moment longer.

it feels like eons pass before the tension is broken, fizzling into nothing as if it didn’t exist in the first place.

his hands resume their task of polishing his prized swords. the muscles in his body relax and everything else suddenly melts away.

he grants you permission.

he allows it.

“morning.” he grumbles back, speaking with an air of nonchalance that contrasted with how fast his mind was racing.

it’s a delicate balance, as frail as the thin layer of ice starting to form on the glass windows.

you know now more than ever to hold off on the banter and teasing, unless you wanted to get bucked off.

taking what you’ve been given, you’re content enough with releasing a deep breath and letting the rise and fall of his back lull you into a light doze.

time seems to pass slower in this world, in this little pocket of tranquility which exists only for the two of you.

when you finally decide to loosen your grip and pull away, he lets out a noise equivalent to a growl.

he’s almost offended.

one of his hands holds your wrist in place, his grip firm. he’s never been good at displaying tenderness, his words unintentionally gruff. “oi, where are ya goin’?”

he releases your arm, almost daring you to defy him. his muscles relax once more, calloused hands resuming the tedious task of polishing steel as he picks up his next sword.

his tone is softer, spoken as a mumble as if he was afraid of saying too much. “just stay a little longer.”

the request has you momentarily astonished, eyes widening a tad before you got a grip on yourself. your arms settle back around his waist, a pleasant buzz spreading in your chest and down to your toes.

you were well aware that this was a rare opportunity, one that you could not and would not pass up.

so, you let out a sigh and rest your cheek on his back once more.

his aura seems to encapsulate you, making you feel safe and at ease.

he’s satisfied with your reaction, how you effortlessly unwind and how your breaths even out.

once again, he’s warm.

zoro decides that he can spend hours just like this.

for the crew, he could always be a demon. for you? he wouldn't mind being a bit more human.

[mxtxfanatic]

I feel like I'm being gaslit rn. I don't know what to think anymore. I just saw a post about how Jiang Cheng is allowed to feel complicated feelings towards Lan Sizhui and Wen Ning because they are Wens, and according to OP, the Wens destroyed Jiang Cheng's home and killed his parents. Therefore, he is allowed to have the right to have them stay the hell out of Lotus Pier.

Then OP even said, "We dont enough fics where we can acknowledge that the wen remnants were victims but also that it was the wen who sparked the whole thing in the first place. Not enough allowance for the complicated nature of loss and pain caused not only by an enemy but a loved one."

Unfortunately OP had to drag Jin Ling in, and said "Being an mdzs fan who loves the jiangs most of all is so hard because where is the fic where jin ling gets to be righteously angry about growing up an orphan because of what wei wuxian and wen ning did, because even though there were complicating situations involved, that was still his father who got his chest caved in and his mother dead in a battle directly resulting from that killing?"

Like I understand that Jiang Cheng and Jin Ling were hurt, and their pain and reaction thereof is understandable, but that doesn't mean what they did was right??

Idk if it's just me, but when people speak of the Wens like this, they tend to dehumanise the Wen remnants and then go defend those who were responsible for their horrific deaths. Worst part is, that entire post got so popular too. How did we read the same novel??

Yeah, it’s all gaslighting, because none of these people would argue that Lan Sizhui or Wen Ning had equal right to hate and want to kill Jiang Cheng and Jin Ling. Wen Ning should suffer and die to atone for the sins of people he’s only incidentally related to but that fact that he personally rescued Jiang Cheng and his parents’ bodies to be given a proper burial—things Jiang Cheng knows about—isn’t enough to save Wen Ning’s family from “deserving” death nor is it something Jiang Cheng has to acknowledge because it’s “telling him his anger is unjustified” (newflash: it fucking is). Jin Ling can hate Wei Wuxian no problem, but if you told these people that he’d be just as justified hating Jin Guangyao and Jiang Cheng (something be actually contemplates canonically at the end), then they’d start spewing nonsense about “best jiujiu ever!” and “jin ling loves his guardians so much tho!” Almost as if the only reason why he hates Wei Wuxian and Wen Ning is because the people actually responsible for orphaning him are the people who raised him and lied to him about the circumstances behind his parents’ deaths.

They don’t want Jiang Cheng (a grown 30+ year-old man who’s been throwing a 20+ year old tantrum about never being “as good” as the orphan his mom erroneously hated) to have “righteous anger.” They want Jiang Cheng to be able to make his anger everyone else’s problem without consequences, not from the story and not from the fandom. They want him to be able to kill random strangers indiscriminately because “he has trauma!” They want him to abandon his allies who are the reason he’s alive because “his allies’ relatives gave him trauma!” They want him to betray his only friend because “that friend prioritized repaying Jiang Cheng’s debts above coddling his trauma.” What they want is a violent revenge fantasy starring Jiang Cheng, where he singehandedly wipes out the clan down to the last infant that killed his family, and everyone loves him so much for it that they make him Chief Cultivator over it.

Also, Jiang Cheng doesn’t hate Lan Sizhui because he knows or suspects him to be a Wen (because that would involve deduction skills Jiang Cheng clearly doesn’t have, or else the gc transfer would not have been a shock to him). He hates Lan Sizhui because he hates the Lan, a clan who’ve done shit all to him. Lan Sizhui wasn’t barred from entering Lotus Pier either; he chose to accompany Wen Ning so that he wasn’t alone. Stans love to rewrite the story.

[mewo777]

i so desperately yearn for an episode of gravity falls where stan and ford just get to talk. it feels like there was so little development between them, and ford not getting a chance to breathe before immediately being thrust into weirdmaggedon just makes his character seem rushed. he seriously needed a few more episodes to be fleshed out. not his character, exactly, but rather his interactions w other characters, specifically stan and mabel. i think they did an incredible job characterizing him but its so hard to appreciate that when the character who is literally the most closely intertwined with his story barely gets to interact with him at all.

it didnt even have to be much, just a small interaction to show them growing closer, or even to show that theyve grown so far apart that theyre not even in the same world anymore. something that would make the final scene with stan getting blasted with the memory gun seem genuine and meaningful. not that it wasnt, but it wouldve been so much more impactful if we’d gotten to see that ford loves stan as much as we’ve seen how much stan loves ford.

another issue i have is fords “redemption” at the end, where he tells stan to sail the world with him. again, it just feels a little.. shoehorned in there i guess? like, it doesnt feel “earned” exactly, more like the writers just decided that it was time for ford to make it up to stan and thats the only reason it happened. again, a few extra heartfelt scenes between them wouldve solved this problem. i just hate that it seems like ford never confronts the unjustified anger he had towards stan. it wouldve maybe even been justified if he was mad about stan pushing him into the portal, but being mad about the PROJECT from THIRTY YEARS AGO is insane hes truly playing the long game of grudges like brother you literally lived the most fullfilling life you couldve(prior to getting pushed into another dimension for 30 years… through his own invention…) in SPITE of what stan did like i just think maybe now that youve had time to think it over we can all be adults about this… sigh….

alright i need to write a fic where ford apologizes to stan and they hug or something idgaf

[sharffffff]

Pili 2 didn't deserve this - but also did, an analysis

Preface before I get too deep into this: I haven't rewatched any of the Pangi vods (except pangkey moments for research but it isn't relevant) in a bit, so some of the facts can be not exactly accurate and feel free to call me out in the tags, however I try to keep everything laid out plainly. If this isn't obvious, this is from a pov of a Pangi viewer - if Pili has specified something different in his streams, I won't know it, and feel free to tell me about it and I'll try to correct it.

Now to the topic of the post: there is an insane amount of mischaracterization surrounding Pili 2, which leads to the character hate he doesn't deserve. If you want to hate the character, do it for the actions he has actually done, or for the fact that you don't like split personality trope, or anything else - but don't attribute actions done by another character to him.

If you look into the history of the relationship between Pangi and Pili 2 (and 1.5, but we will get into it later), Pangi certainly instigated it at the start. The accusations of Pili 2 being a person he had no recollections of, the stalking to try and catch him in on the lie, the obsession Pangi had with him for around a week - from Pili 2's pov, they were completely unjustifiable, and so he decided to be cold and distant to Pangi as well, until eventually Pangi left him alone - and everything could've been solved here, if it wasn't for the Pili 1 book.

Here's the first and one of the only two (two and a half? three?) cases where Pili 2 has done something especially bad towards Pangi - ripping out the last two pages of the book, but in his own eyes, it was protecting his own skin, and he expected to die for this - and he did, first by Pangi, who was justifiably angry, and then resetting himself to start on 3 lives again. This was the one death to Pangi that in the eyes of Pili 2 was justified - he expected it, it came, everything was fine.

After that, Pangi tried distancing himself from Pili 2 as much as possible, and while Pili 2 himself still sometimes came along to be annoying to Pangi, it was minimal. Until the first appearance of Pili 1.5 - in the shape of the signs filling up Pangi's entire house. We know it's Pili 1.5 because Pili 2 didn't remember it - and also because the signs were clearly referencing Mocha. But they drove Pangi angry, and made him think that Pili 2 was lying, was stalking him, was being obsessive - and from Pangi's eyes he was, because Pangi didn't know (and tbh still doesn't know, somehow, my streamer is stupid forgive him) that Pili 1.5, or Mocha possessing Pili 2, is a thing.

Pili 2 still kept being annoying to Pangi, yes, but it was only fueled by Pangi accusing him of things he has never done, and it culminated in Pili 2 stealing armor set Pangi got for Jonnay (it took so long to find that alt vod to confirm that reverb was on so it was actually Pili 2 and not Mocha), which resulted in Pangi blowing up Pili's base, and Pili stealing Pedro.

Pangi was justifiably murderous after that, but then Pili gave Pedro back, and they talked, and then they decided to leave bygones be bygones, start from a clean slate and just keep their distance so nothing more happens between them.

And that's when the cracks start to show, where the perspectives of Pili 2 and Pangi differ significantly. Very significantly, one might say.

Because from Pangi's perspective, instead of leaving him alone, Pili starts hounding him, hounding his friends, first trying to kill them and then asking them out, starts consistently psychologically torturing him and just won't die no matter how many times he is killed. He does everything in his power to make Pangi's life as miserable as possible, and even tells so to his face - and tells him that yeah, he did place the signs, yeah, he is still here, yeah, he will torture him, will kill Lukey just to hurt him, will make his experience on this server living hell - and it drives Pangi insane, drives him to kill him over and over to make sure he leaves him alone - and he never, never does. So from Pangi's point of view, all those kills on Pili are justified - in an environment he came from, kills are a valid reply to psychological torture.

But then we have Pili 2's perspective, where he does nothing of what was listed. Yes, he asks Lukey out and forms a relationship with him, inviting him to the ball just to have fun - and then retracting that invite when Lukey rejects him and Pangi confronts him. He never did it to make Pangi jealous, he just wanted to have fun with Lukey. And then he also asks Zam out - not caring that he's Pangi's friend, just wanting, again, to spend great time with his friend. And he is killed for doing nothing, killed by this obsessive, murderous person who seems to just hate him for things he did ages ago, saying he did things he never actually did. Yes, there is suspicion about those things actually happening, as multiple people have told him he did them, but he doesn't remember them - and while he suspects what might be the cause, in his eyes he is innocent, in his eyes he doesn't deserve any of those deaths except the very first one. In his eyes, first Pangi promised to let him be, and then ruined his entire life.

And that's where Pili 1.5 comes in. He was the one doing every terrible thing that Pangi described, he was the one hunting down Lukey and trying to kill him over and over again. He was the one harassing and manipulating Pangi - Pili 2 never did that. Well, maybe he did a little bit of manipulation, but who hasn't. Pili 1.5 has done so, so much more. And in most cases it's easy to miss - the only change is that his voice changer is gone, his reverb is off, and, of course, the personality shift. Pili 1.5 does the things, but Pili 2 suffers the consequences - and doesn't know why. Pili 1.5 is the one who keeps prolonging the cycle of violence, and Pangi takes the bait every time. It was Pili 1.5 who made Pangi thing that Pili 2 was taking Zam to the ball just to make Pangi feel awful - because Pili 1.5 specifically mocked him, said that he would make the ball extremely miserable for Pangi - but Pili 2 never intended it this way.

And this is the exact reason why from Pangi's point of view, every death, every bit of violence, everything he ever done to Pili 2 was justified - but also why Pili 2 didn't lie when he said Pangi did it for no reason. Because he did do it for no reason - it wasn't Pili 2 who was torturing him, it was Mocha possessing his body.

And if this trend continues, if Pili 3 really is Pili 1 with memories of both of his installments, Pangi will suffer even more. Because it will be even more of Pili 1.5, with none of Pili 2 to counteract it. And god knows I will suffer from it. But while I can't defend Pili 1.5, I will be Pili 2 defender. My boy did barely anything wrong and suffered so much for it. Too bad he had to suffer the consequences for action committed by a different person. But also I despise split personality trope with all my being so I'm glad Pili 2 is dead.

[v3nusalternative]

Very long rant time⋆. 𐙚 ˚

I love how people are somehow still in favour of shubble despite the lack of proof she's shown within the allegations. Her fan base is the most toxic one and she's blatantly encouraged by outwardly liking posts that degrade her ex.

She doesn't even seem ashamed about the fact that us as wilbur supporters have seen how she's ignored/pushed down questions about the allegations, let alone block wilbur supporters that have gone through violent threats and disgusting behaviour from her supporters. Dare I say, shubble relishes in hypocrisy.

Shubble has unblocked wilbur on instagram, wore his merchandise on stream, and even claimed she couldn't afford to bring any of the alleged abuse to court—shortly after, she decided to fly to Canada and sue a car company for millions. This proves she did have enough expense, and as twitch streamer AND YouTuber, we can assume she makes more than any average person, so bringing this up on a streaming platform instead of going to court is the stupidest thing I've seen anyone do in my history of living. All that was stirred was hysterical hate towards wilbur and his fans.

Back to her fan base, shubble doesn't do anything about the fact that literal teenagers that supported wilbur have literally offed themselves (may they rest in peace<3) because of how bad the threats have gotten. As a minor myself, I'm appalled at the fact that a grown ass woman who makes millions doesn't even have the right amount of emotional intelligence to tell her fans to be respectful towards wilbur. Wilbur on the other hand has told in his multiple responses that his fans should be kind and respectful towards shelby despite all she's done, which I find very sweet of wilbur to do even if he's had to endure multiple threats and insults from multiple people.

As a future law student, some of the things shubble has said and done are crimes.

- Article 188; Libel. (Administrative violence)

-Article 189; Hate speech. (Inflicting hate publicly/displaying it in the media)

-Article 203; illegally spreading information regarding private matters from private life and and personal data (Administrative violence)

-Article 352; Unlawful acquisition of computer information (wilburs personal data)

You could try to argue with me on this, but it's the law. And you really can't try to unjustify something which is a fact.

Another thing that I wanted to add is that despite my negativity against shubble, I've seen some wilbur supporters degrading her about her looks or her dressing style. That is not justified just because you hate her. Sure, she's a bad person, but there could be wilbur fans/supporters that have a similar dressing style or look similar to shelby, and generally it's just toxic behaviour.

Also my god, I'm so sick of the fact that people have suddenly switched up so fast because of new allegations. Like how apparently wilbur was a groomer, we all know damn well that shubble supporters are just pulling things out of their ass now. I've also seen and heard shubble supporters saying that if you supporter wilbur your a misogynist.. like I'm sorry??? What sense of judgement is this and why is it justified?

To wrap this up, I just wanna say that even if Wilbur has been strong and polite about the situation, making him miserable by commenting vile things doesn't help. And in my opinion, Wilbur has gotten so much better, and shubble supporters are just in denial about change because you guys assume that a bad person can't get help nor change, but you guys aren't ready for that conversation.

⋆. 𐙚 ˚๋ ࣭ ⭑๋ ࣭ ⭑Venus_out⋆. 𐙚 ˚๋ ࣭ ⭑๋ ࣭ ⭑

[class1akids]

Your tweet on Inasa 😭 so real! Honestly, so many characters on the hero side fell into the typical glaze Endeavor BS and he was one of those to fall into that category, the fact that he held such a grudge for not getting a autograph and for Shouto not wanting to be his friend and yet had no care for the abuse was mind blowing. The lack of reaction from a past Endeavor hater was such a HUGE miss on Horikoshi’s part, because it could have been such introspection of Inasa’s past and present thoughts! Like the fact that he could of looked back on his past thoughts on Shouto and past behaviour towards Shouto of comparing him to his abuser and realise how maybe he shouldn’t judge someone based on first encounters because you do not know what they are going through, and dare I say it maybe realise that his pain/anger was incomparable to Shouto’s pain and anger(like not saying his anger was invalid but still). Like we could have had those thoughts and seen why he comes to the conclusion to show support, instead of glaze from the get go!

Inasa is a particularly painful Endeavor glazer for me. He is not Burnin' - Endeavor's employee. He's not Hawks - someone whose major psychological anchor is Endeavor.

Inasa was a character introduced through Shouto. It was a very controversial decision at the time to fail Shouto at the licensing arc. A lot of Shouto-fans felt it was unjustified (unlike Bakugou's humbling) and that Inasa was fully in the wrong to provoke Shouto.

Also, up until that point, Shouto's arc was about emancipation from Endeavor, focusing on his mom and opening up to his friends. With Endeavor getting his moment of change at Kamino, suddenly Shouto's arc pivoting to having to face his feelings about his father made a lot of fans uneasy and I know that a lot of Shouto-fans (and tddk fans) left the manga at around this time.

For me, the Remedial arc felt like a nice pay-off for all this and was waiting for a good payoff for the remedial squad to do something together.

Instead, Hori brought Inasa back not to help Shouto or do a combo with him, but to glaze Endeavor - without even reflecting for a second about why Shouto would have been so cold when they had first met. He just assumes based on the fact that he witnessed Endeavor approach Shouto that they both want to patch things up and he better root for them.

Considering Inasa is a bit of a "proto-Touya" (hating Shouto mainly because of how he himself was treated by Endeavor) makes it even worse that Inasa's comeback is about Endeavor and not Shouto who made the effort to connect with Inasa despite his initial distaste for the guy.

[ohwolfling]

I think most of y'all accusing Squid Game of being cynical are actually the cynical ones. Acts of rebellion aren't rewarded with happy endings. You don't only die for something if it's a guaranteed success, you don't only try if your kindness and/or defiance is measurable.

If you need Squid Game to have a happy ending to believe it's worth fighting capitalism, then there isn't a revolutionary bone in your body. The Hunger Games has a more palatable ending because while its themes are greater, it was written for middle schoolers. You have to be able to handle allegory of corrupt systems above the level of 12-14 year olds to process Squid Game. That's not a failing of the show.

Choi Woo-seok has agency and a future after the cops slapped him with a prison sentence instead of taking the Squid Game seriously. His tragedy, and the ways the system made it worse, are something he can rise above because of relationships and personal development he likely wouldn't have without Gi-hun. In-ho is still who In-ho is and I think fanon delusions about that are why a lot of you are feeling betrayed but he reaches outside of the system in a way that, while still cruel, gives two girls some kind of future that will keep them out of the games. Jun-ho is trusted with Jun-hee's baby and that money because In-ho knows that he is a good person, LEGITIMATELY A GOOD PERSON. Jun-ho walks away from policing and aligns himself with former criminals because community >>> the system, in big and small ways.

Gi-hun dies a human being. Him dying to save a child is not about "pro life," and y'all have got to stop just digging for the worst possible takes on something whenever you're disappointed or upset. Jun-hee trusted him. Geum-ja trusted him. Hyun-ju died protecting those two. He was seeing the dreams of his community through. When he realized he couldn't win, he kept his word, protected the next generation as best he could, and died with his humanity in tact. His humanity was affirmed in his games by Sae-byeok & Sang-woo & while he fucked up with Dae-ho (which was the point of that, I don't know how y'all are missing that), Gi-hun was NEVER going to sacrifice his humanity, despite the many parasocial fantasies the fandom created there in many ways.

His death happens in part because Myeong-gi cannot decide who he wants to be. The games didn't come down to a bunch of men in suits fantasizing about their turn at being rich, led by a formerly wealthy hack, because Hwang Dong Hyuk hates women. Myeong-gi was a crypto grifter who got swindled by a richer, probably older weirdo. He NEVER takes accountability for that, despite the people in the games BECAUSE HE MISLED THEM. He did love Jun-hee and sometimes he wanted to keep his word & come through for her or his child, but he's endlessly pulled towards the vision of Wealthy Man in Suit as the end all, be all of success.

I could do more in depth breakdowns for any of this, and for every alliance that made it into season 3 and what their deaths represent. It's undeniably in service to what Squid Game has ALWAYS been and these deaths hurt so much because the show and the characterization is good actually. You feel betrayed because the characters were changed or killed or sometimes both by the system Squid Game critiques. That feeling doesn't mean any of those deaths were unjustified narratively.

[freakenomenon]

okay hereeee are some ted opinions that i feel as though i should share before i explode with frustration.

teds paranoia is due to AM of course, yes. this is horribly tragic and what AM has done to the survivors is HORRIBLE. but.... it doesn't excuse the CLEAR misogynistic bias ( and possible racial bias STAY WITH ME HERE IM BLACK I AM THE MOST CERTIFIED TO TALK ABOUT THIS. ) ted displays towards ellen. when talking about the others he doesn't make derogatory statements towards their gender identities or their choices within their past lives. especially with benny being gay he only states that AM had sexually humiliated him because of it, which does not mean he agrees with it. but then when he shifts over to ellen it's so OBVIOUS how victim blamey and sexist his words are. implying that she enjoys servicing them and that AM had given her pleasure despite her clearly not wanting any of that. he doesnt only just GLOSS OVER the sexual humiliation of benny, he uses it against ELLEN. paranoia does not CAUSE bigotry to sprout, as someone with paranoia if anything it's more offensive to IMPLY that it would cause saying something that horrendous to a SEXUAL ASSAULT VICTIM. ( not only talking about the elevator here by the way, ellen being forced to service the others can genuinely be considered proximity assault and COERCION but whatever ) yes, i do feel bad for ted in the aspect that he is a torture victim and he's gone through so much and that he has genuinely been driven mad. but bigotry within madness cannot be justified in ANY right. it's also very insulting to his character to imply that his ONLY personality traits are being a douchebag. yes it's a big part of him because he is ,,, a douchebag. but to truly understand why you shouldn't like ted as a PERSON ( not as a character, he's very well written do whatever you want ) you have to peel away exactly at what makes his actions unjustifiable in the end.

moving on, his portrayal in the game is both interesting and completely absurd and horrendous. let me start this off by saying. Ted. Does NOT. love ellen. Ted is not ACTUALLY in love with this woman. He's just clinging to whatever he can for validation and he believes that he is ENTITLED to her validation because of his isolation and belief that the MEN hate him. not to mention his warped view on sex due to him being groomed may have led him to believe that sex = love. the short sporadic and awfully humiliating sparks of passion between ellen and ted during those intimate moments, especially for a grooming victim. may be incredibly confusing and conflicting. which of course is not at all teds fault, he's a victim. i don't blame him for that. teds character in the game in some aspects couldve been a beautifully done portrayal of how "love" and a want for it can bring out the worst in someone. that having trauma doesn't always make good functioning morally correct members of society. in other aspects. it's. bad. God fucking. JESUS it's bad i don't even want to talk about how horrendous he is written in the game christ on a celery stick. I can't even say this is because of my personal disliking of ted. all of the characters are so STRANGELY written in the game that is actually absurd in resemblance to their characters in the short story. but whatever.

rant over.

[xandermarsh16]

Something I don’t really get about the Pomni backlash after episode 5 is that it comes from people who say stuff like this

“Why are people mad at Ragatha for what she did in episode 5? Jax has done so much worse, why does she get backlash for saying one out of pocket thing? Anyways, I hate Pomni for not paying enough attention to Ragatha and telling her calm down in the baseball scene!”

??? Which is it??? Are the characters complex individuals who have reasons for what they do but should be held accountable when they do or say something out of pocket, or are they above criticism because “Jax has done worse?” Yes, I think the pushback towards Ragatha is a bit extreme, but let’s also not pretend she’s not above SOME criticism. And if we ARE gonna think like that, why is Pomni suddenly on the chopping board? I don’t have a reason for the calm down thing, maybe it wasn’t the right time to say that, I don’t know, but notice how she doesn’t have a rebuttal when Ragatha calls her out, and even looks guilty? I just don’t get why she’s suddenly in the wrong for that one thing she said, and don’t get me wrong, I feel the same way to a point about Ragatha, at least when it comes to the people who argue she’s this horrible person. But there is reason to thoroughly criticize what she did in ep 5. Pomni’s hate feels uncalled for.

Most of the criticism towards both Pomni and Ragatha are pretty unjustified if you think about it. Ragatha is just using people pleasing as a coping mechanism for trauma caused by her abusive mother, Pomni was just trying to play peacemaker and calm the tension down. Sure, Ragatha took the whole ordeal as if Pomni was “abandoning” her for Jax, but personally, I think Pomni just wants to know more on Jax and why he is so dismissive of everything.

Even if Jax had development in this episode, I still don’t like him, I just have a little more understanding on him, who knows, he might get bigger development later on in the series, I am on board for it, but I DO NOT WANT it to be caused by Ragatha’s abstraction.

[alkaline-wtr]

ELEVATOR

Ghost x gn!reader

Description: Ghost and reader are neighbors who get stuck together in an elevator. Genre/Warnings: Ghost x reader, gn!reader, fluff, angst, a little hurt/comfort, possibly enemies to lovers, imagine WC: 987

My Masterlist

**AN Good morning! Here's a little fluff, I don't exactly know if the genres I tagged it as fit, but either way thought this piece was cute. Enjoy.

Ghost steps onto the elevator watching it close slowly, the doors are almost shut when he hears a voice.

"Wait!"

He peered through the two metal plates you come walking quickly down the hall.

Ghost lets out an irritated sigh realizing it's you.

You and Ghost were neighbors. Living on the same floor of the apartment building. For some reason, despite your efforts over the last year Ghost just didn't seem to like you. In fact, he despised you.

Ghost wasn't exactly sure what it was about you that made him dislike you so much. Maybe it was your intrusive nature.

You put your hand in between the doors causing them to retract.

"Good morning, Simon. How are you?"

You asked in a sweet voice as you stepped onto the elevator beside him.

"Fine."

Ghost grumbled in response. You smile back at him but there is a sadness in your eyes.

Ghost presses the button for the first floor. He is obviously in no mood for small talk.

The elevator begins its descent. A low hum emits from the fluorescent lights overhead. Filling the uncomfortable silence between you.

You're watching as the numbers go down when suddenly the elevator comes to a halt rumbling beneath your feet.

The first thought that comes to Ghost's mind is confusion. His hand reaches across you and taps the button a couple times.

You watch with wide eyes as Ghost fiddles with the buttons.

"We're not stuck, are we?"

Ghost's glares at you,

"Obviously." He snapped.

Normally the comment would have hurt you but all you felt at this moment was the rising panic at the realization of the situation.

Ghost sighs pulling out his phone. He immediately notices the absence of the little white bars on the top of the screen.

"No reception."

He states, holding his cell up in the air in an attempt to find a connection.

The pounding of your heart is like a drumbeat in your chest. The warm wave of the fear and adrenaline washing over you makes you feel disconnected. You don't hear Ghosts frustrated grunts.

You'd always had anxiety, and this was one of your biggest fears.

Ghost lowers his Phone and looks down to you.

"What?"

Ghost asks annoyed. Pure terror is apparent on your face.

"I-I just- This... has always been a fear of mine."

You stuttered.

His expression softens. Ghost was well aware of anxiety and the effects it can have.

"It'll be okay."

His attempts at reassuring you don't seem to work as your breathing grows shallower.

Instead of the usual irritation Ghost felt being in your presence, he felt sympathetic towards you. Understanding first-hand how you were feeling in this moment.

"I suffer from anxiety too sometimes."

His voice is soft, and you can see something in his eyes you never had before, vulnerability.

The momentary silence between you two is loud. Your eyes are locked with his before you finally speak.

"Simon?"

The words are soft. He looked at you expectantly.

"Why do you hate me so much?"

The whispered question hangs in the air. Ghost breathes out a sigh averting his eyes.

"I don't..."

He stops himself from answering and thinks. Ghost hadn't really had a reason. He just wasn't fond of you. His negative feelings were unjustified. As he thought back to all the previous interactions, he realized you'd never been anything but nice to him.

With the pain and hurt of his difficult past, He'd found it hard for him to tolerate your positive and bubbly attitude. He was hurting deep inside, and you only brought that to light.

The truth was you hadn't done anything wrong, Ghost just couldn't separate his feelings of frustration from his opinion of you.

"I owe you an apology, y/n. I've allowed my own frustrations to interfere with my behavior towards you. It is unfair, and you never deserved to bear the brunt of it."

You looked at him shocked by his words. Ghost didn't seem the type to apologize.

"Will you please forgive me?"

He asked. Ghost knew you had every right to turn him away. After the way he had treated you for so long, he didn't deserve your forgiveness.

As always you proved to be kindhearted with your generous response.

"Of course. We all have our struggles. I appreciate you being honest with me."

You smiled at him. Your smile seemed so genuine and pure.

"I know this may mean nothing but if I'm honest with you, I've always liked you."

Your admission takes Ghost by surprise. The truth of the matter was that you had feelings for Ghost for a while. By hanging around and being friendly you hoped he could eventually warm up to you. Although, it had all seemed stupid now, you should have just communicated.

Ghost searched your face for any indication of what you were thinking. He had no idea how to respond. So, he did the only thing that came to mind at the moment.

A rough hand grabs your cheek forcing you to face him. Ghost hovers his lips over yours for a moment a silent way of asking for your permission.

When you didn't pull away Ghost took that as an okay to continue. His plush lips brush against yours.

You stiffen in hesitation, unsure of your actions. This had been a moment you'd only dreamt of and now that it was happening you didn't want anything to mess it up.

Finally, you lean in, kissing him back.  laughing nervously, when he pulls away.

"I almost forgot that we are stuck in an elevator."

You whisper. Ghost chuckles to himself and glances around

"Oh yeah. We are, aren't we?"

He leans across you and presses the emergency call button. As you're waiting for Ghost to find a solution to the situation you can't help but smile to yourself feeling giddy and excited about what is to come.

[jokeson-u]

here my thing with the 'travis is misogynistic' argument or whatever. while i dislike using the 'product of his time' defense bc it sounds like an excuse... it is true. esp w his father figure. BUT. even so. the way some people talk as if thats like.. his whole character is. really weird. his sexism wasnt even an overarching plot point in s1. it was just a trait he had, showcased in a handful of lines. and even then, all of that seized by 1x09. his displays of misogyny die out before the first season even does, and by season 2, hes fully involved with and respectful towards the group. pretending that hes some raging misogynist to fuel and justify ur hatred for him is really strange considering its only a tiny aspect of season 1. where are the think pieces of taissa and jackie having internalized misogyny? i mean, they were really comfortable slut shaming natalie. but u wont see anything about that bc, like travis, those encounters were brief and confined to one half of season 1. do u hate on misty for trying to drug ben w the clear intent to assault him? no. do u hold virtually ANY of the girls accountable for their unjustified actions? or do u just like to hate travis? im not even a travis stan! i barely care about him! but the way u guys hype the girls for problematic shit that progresses, but hate travis for something that was only featured a handful of times in season 1, is weirdddddd. travis's growth was a great little subtle side story that we silently see unfold. one that didnt delve into his sexism but instead lets us see him gradually become ingrained with the women around him. maybe lets not discredit that lol

[cosmorice]

When Lips Collide

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Synopsis: CEO!Jungkook and you have an odd relationship filled with tension and chaos; but is it hatred he truly has for you?

Pairing: CEO!Jungkook x Reader

Tw: angst, slow-burn, swearing (duh), toxic jungkook, alcohol

Wc: 1984

I hate you, I think? Series Masterlist

Your back collides with the cloud-like mattress as you land with a soft thud. Staring at the ceiling, you wonder to yourself if you should even attend this dinner. Like hell Jungkook was gonna scare you off. You’re CFO for fucks sake. The vibration of your phone snaps you out of your thoughts as the sound cascades through your ears.

Jin needs gin [6:30 pm] - listen im rlly sorry about how Jungkook is acting

Jin needs gin [6:30 pm] - dinner is at 7…just don’t be scared to lmk if you need anything at all

Y/N [6:35 pm] - ty jinnyyyy! Meet you all downstairs :)

You toss your phone back to the side in annoyance as you begrudgingly stand to your feet. After readjusting yourself with a lovely stretch, you stare at your suitcases; Which somehow seem to be taunting you in return. Time to find a decent outfit. Due to it being summer, and the high humidity that surrounds South Korea and Tokyo, you packed simple items and a few dresses.

Your eyes settle on a short yet tight red body-con dress. Adding some finishing touches of light makeup and some perfume, you check the time on your phone. 6:55. Grabbing your purse, your feet betray your body as they hurriedly head through the door. Suddenly you feel your body collide into someone else. Jimin. Confusion dawns upon your face as to why he would be on a company trip like this.

“Woah hey Y/N!” Jimin smiles towards you, as the puzzled glance never leaves your face.

“Hey Jimin. You’re here for the work trip too?” 

“Ah, yes. Jungkook wants to appoint me as CTO, but he wanted me to tag along to see how things really work behind the scenes for a company as big as his.” He rubs the back of his head, never breaking eye contact with you. 

Jimin was truly a nice guy. With the handful of interactions you both shared, he never showed a hint of unkindness, and for that, you appreciated him. You knew he had a large background in technology, even graduating with a major in computer engineering with an emphasis on robotics; So this news wasn’t really a shock to you.

“Wow, that’s really amazing. I take it your heading down to meet with everyone as well?” Your teeth flash an appearance towards the taller man as you both begin walking alongside one another.

-

Jungkook, Jin, and Namjoon waited casually in the lobby expecting your arrival. 

“Y/N is coming. Do not fuck this up Jungkook.” Jin turns towards the lanky man beside him. Namjoon watches the exchange about to unfold between the two.

“Fuck what up exactly?” Jungkook asks dumbly with a chuckle, causing Jin to pinch the bridge of his nose in frustration. The elevator interrupts them with a slight ding. Speak of the devil. You and Jimin happily stroll up to the trio, chuckling amongst yourselves. You move in slow motion in Jungkook’s eyes as he scans your body and takes in all of your features. The way your red dress hugs your curves comfortably and the way the curls in your hair bounce as you greet everyone animatedly. His stomach is in knots and unjustified anger settles within his mind as he watches the way you talk with Jimin. 

He scoffs and walks past the four of you before simply stating, “I’ll call a cab.”

-

Your once tense shoulders begin to ease with comfortability as the alcohol courses its’ way through your bloodstream. 

“Y/N, I’m thinking we should go to a club tonight. What do ya say?” Jimin turns to you, eyes glazed over in excitement. You had heard about the nightlife in Japan, so why the hell not?

“I’m game!” Namjoon chimes in, earning a nod from Jin along the way. “Come on!” He continues to whine, even forcing a pout.

“Oppa!” You laugh in amusement as you feverishly nod yes. Jungkook feels his mouth beginning to crack a smile, quickly putting a stop to it. The excitement you displayed was rather..cute. The way your eyes widened ever so slightly and your cherry red painted lips contrasted against your white teeth was a lovely sight for the man.

“What about you Jungkook?” Jimin turns to the raven-haired boy, as you all await a response from him. A large part of you hopes he’s tired and opts to stay at his hotel, but you know that’s not happening. You begin to wonder to god if he put Jungkook on this earth just to torture you.

“If Y/N is going, I’d rather not. Seems like it’ll be a bore.” Jungkook sneers. Yep, he was put here to torture you. Your cheeks heat up with anger as you roll your eyes towards your boss. Jin groans as he palms his forehead while Namjoon goes blank.

-

Jungkook broods in the corner of the shared table as lights flicker and flash upon him. How Jin managed to get him to come was a mystery to you, but quite frankly, you didn't care. The brown tinted liquid sloshes in Jungkook's cup as he takes another large swig whilst eyeing you from afar.

The speakers boom and beads of sweat trickle along the side of your forehead as you sway your hips to the beat. Jin and Namjoon not too far from you, laugh amongst themselves as the alcohol throttles into full gear. Sure you all had a meeting tommorow but you were in Tokyo for fucks sake. With his tie undone and crazy hair, Jimin grabs your waist and dances rythmatically alongside you. Your bodies pulsate to the music as you both flirtatiously dance. 

Something switches within Jungkook. His brown orbs never leaving you as he calculates the interaction you're having with Jimin. Maybe it was the alcohol talking, but he needed to take action. Setting his cup down, his lanky limbs storm through the sea of bodies straight towards you. Suddenly, you feel a strong pull on your arm, turning to see it was Jungkook.

"Y/N, we need to talk now." He states, his eyes darkened. Before getting the chance to utter a word, he pulls you away, leaving behind a confused Jimin. He watches as you are pulled towards the exit before striding over to Namjoon and Jin in total confusion.

"Guys, Jungkook just dragged Y/N out." This sentence alone was enough to raise alarms in both the heads of Namjoon and Jin.

"What?" Namjoon's brow furrows, while his mind wanders to the possibilities as to why in the hell Jungkook would take you out of the club.

"Should we go look for them?" Jimin asks, slight worry lacing his voice. He hasn't been with the company for long but could sense the brewing tension between you and the CEO. What if Y/N got fired?

-

"What in the actual fuck do you think your doing?" You scream as the cool summer air presses against your sweaty body. A couple of passerby's stare out of curiosity but you could care less.

"Watch it. I think you're forgetting that I'm your boss and I'm the CEO here." Jungkook adds casually. His now calm demeanor fueling your anger even further.

"Fuck. You." Your alcohol tinted breath wafts across his face as you press a finger up to the taller mans chest. Jungkook takes advantage of your close proximity and crashes his plump lips against yours. You take a step back as you watch his expression turn into complete blankness mixed with a sea of confusion. Before you could press him further, a familiar voice calls out,

"Y/N! We've been looking for you! Everything alright?" Jin runs up to you, Jimin and Namjoon trailing close behind him. The sound of their sneaker clad footsteps against the ground come to a halt as they stand beside you and Jungkook.

"Y-yeah. We were just discussing the meeting." You manage to spit out, Namjoon eyeing you. You seem to have forgotten that your closest friend can smell your lies from a mile away.

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"Quit pacing around. You know I hate that." You groan, watching your blonde haired friend slowly walk back and forth in front of your hotel bed.

"And you know I hate liars. Now tell me what the hell actually happened back there." Namjoon curtly responds, causing you to flop backwards onto your pillow. Namjoon opted to sleepover in your room with you, wanting to get to the bottom of things. Although you hated lying to your best friend, you didn't know how the hell to even explain the situation to him.

You feel absolutely stunted. You were ashamed to admit you enjoyed the kiss. Why would you enjoy that from a person who treats you like dog shit? This was all new to you and quite frankly, your heart betrayed you as you wanted every part in it.

"He kissed me." You say in a hoarse whisper, taking a massive drink from your water bottle. You prayed to god that you would sober up, speeding up said process with water.

"I'm sorry. What?" Namjoon stops dead in his tracks.

-

"What in the everloving fuck possessed you to do that?" Jin runs a hand through his head as he stares down at a seated Jungkook. Jungkook's face rests between his hands as his gaze averts to the ground.  No response. "I know you aren't deaf Jung." Jin taps his foot against the floor, full of impatience.

"I don't know Jin. I'm confused." Jungkook's gaze never leaving the carpet. The cloud like bed offering emotional comfort to the man as his body finds solace sitting atop it.

"Admit it, and quit lying to yourself. I see right through your bullshit. You think I didn't notice you dissappearing into her office for clusters of time to help her out and talk with her? You're 26 years old and can't even get a handle on your emotions. Quite frankly, I'm tired of it." Maybe Jin had a point. Jungkook didn't know how to navigate things so he did what he does best: act cold and guarded. He knew he took things too far with you but he got a rise out of your lack of self containment. The bed indents further as Jin takes a seat next to his friend,

"I love you to death but you need to figure this out. Properly."

-

"The craziest thing about it Joonie, I liked it." You bite your lip, knowing the man in front of you is about to chew you out. Instead, he sighs and sits next to you.

"Y/N, why? For god's sake he's our BOSS. Why can't you go after someone like Jimin? He actually seems to know how to treat a woman correctly, and to be quite honest, Jungkook has done nothing but show the opposite of that." He looks to you with dissapointment for the first time, something you never thought you'd see from the optomistic man. You knew he was right and you were even more dissapointed in yourself. Don't get it wrong, Jimin was such a kind soul but you never viewed him in that light. You both maintained a positively neutral working relationship and honestly, he was never your type to begin with.

You always grew up with a strong sense of knowing and self worth. Your parents never failed to give you love and vice versa, so why would you start settling for this sort of thing now? Before you knew it, a tear escapes your eye, followed by a whole stream. Namjoon engulfs your smaller frame into a tight hug, ushering you with a small symphony of 'shhh, it's going to be alright'.

"We have a meeting tommorow." You say while glancing to your phone. 3:34 am. Namjoon shoots a sad smile towards you as he gets up to turn off the lights.

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[isdalinarhot]

on the state of kholin haterism on tumblr

this is gonna be a long one, so bear with me.

one thing i think that has changed in the tumblr fandom in the three years that ive been in it is that the culture in 2021 was ALSO at a largely anti-Kholin sentiment, but there were two key differences.

the first is that most people making critiques of such characters would use the tag #kholin critical, which was useful either if you were sensitive to criticism of one of the kholins for whatever reason AND if you wanted to read analysis of some of their faults by many different users under one tag.

the second is that said kholin critical criticisms were... less stupid? like a lot of it was talking about reddit fandom hypocrisy where dalinar was held up as righteous and badass and could do no wrong even though he had tons of personal and political faults that other characters (largely people who WERENT extremely powerful nobles) were demonized for. also a lot of stuff like "adolin is kaladins friend now but i dont think just categorizing it as simple enemies to besties is fair because adolin WAS being overtly racist to kaladin at the beginning there". a lot of discussion about how the Kholins treat darkeyes and characters of lower dahns where the bigotry there was being downplayed by fans in favor of the characters being painted both by fandom and in the universe of the books as Always Right All The Time. stuff like that.

that's not to say the whole kholin crit tag was all, like, stuff that isnt bullshit. people have been dunking on elhokar for being a whiny failking since the beginning of time. but the vibes were a lot different.

kholin critical kind of fell out of favor as a hashtag because most of us realized hey on a doylist level either the things we're criticizing the kholins for are purposeful character flaws that make for richer, more realistic, more engaging characters; or they're oversights from the moderate liberal Sanderson, in which case, why are we complaining about Dalinar doing this, when we should be complaining about Sanderson doing this. so this whole thing is stupid. and also by then the atmosphere on tumblr was way different, this was by and large the Moash Website and while people were haters about characters they did not put the hate in character tags so people largely avoided each others haterism. and there was peace for like a year and a half, i guess.

things are way different now. for context. i track the #dalinar kholin tag. so whenever my dash is dead im checking my tracked tags, and thus i see every original post about dalinar that someone decided to tag #dalinar kholin. and boy howdy, things have devolved. this used to be a chill experience for me, i'd see first time readers go OH MY GOD HE DID WHAT?????? during oathbringer and "[some philosophical shit dalinar said]" -brandon sanderson. follow for more inspiring book quotes" about three times a day, fanart once every couple weeks or so, stuff like that. but now a solid 75% of the posts in dalinars tag are like. hate. not literary criticism, but hate. sometimes about justified things, sometimes about unjustified things, but still, extremely negative.

in a bubble, that's fine. god knows ive been a hater on my blog before and ill be a hater on my blog again. and its not even like im opposed to reading well thought out criticism of my faves on any level because, like, dalinar is kind of a rat bastard! but like. listen. you don't put character hate in that character's tag. you don't do that. the people who are checking a character's tag are fans of that character and fandom is for fun. being a hater directly reaching out to the lovers for comment is rude as hell.

also a lot of the things people dislike about dalinar tie back to his neglectful fatherhood and his alcoholism which is, like, a thing i understand people would have strong negative feelings towards him for having because Neglectful Alcoholic Dad is like one of the top 10 kinds of abusive dads out there so lots of people have very visceral very personal experiences related to that. but when posting about this in any form whatsoever it feels like im having to go back to Treating Addicts Like Human Beings 101. like i feel like ive made a billion posts to the tune of "okay kids, you can do bad things while drunk and you are still responsible and you can also get drunk at inopportune times and you are still responsible, but the act of being addicted to alcohol does not make a character ontologically evil". and like thats. um. a personal thing but also oh my goodness.

i dont really have a conclusion to this. im just thinking goddamn its bleak out here right now.

[harmjoyer]

STOP INFANTILIZING JAKE ENGLISH. STOP TREATING HIM LIKE HE IS FREE OF CONSEQUENCES.

Jake English is such an interesting character because the way he is written infuriates me (in a good way). I saw a particular text post saying basically that Jake English did nothing wrong and that Jane is an asshole for being upset at him. This is just… Wrong. I think a lot of people in general like to try and make Jake seem like he cannot do any wrong because he has neurodivergent traits and is heavily implied to be neurodivergent. This is not to say Jake was entirely in the wrong in some situations, but neither were his friends when they became upset at him. Because, guess what Tumblr, they are teenagers and teenagers are flawed as fuck.

The main thing I would like to talk about is the pages where Jane yells at Jake (starts at page 5521).

While obviously Jane’s passive aggressiveness did not help the situation whatsoever, she was very clearly upset at the fact that one of her only friends forgot about her birthday. After he realizes he forgot, he starts making up excuses. Obviously his forgetfulness is not his fault but I feel like Jane’s slight is definitely not unjustified.

Not to mention he doesn’t even say “happy birthday” to her once during the conversation and instead makes stupid quips and proceeds to dump his relationship problems onto her. Before then though, he goes on a huge ramble to try and avoid his problems (aka what he was initially going to talk about with Jane).

During his conversation with Jane where he should be moving on as he’s decided to, it’s obviously complete filler of a conversation where he repeated over and over how Jane is 16. He’s only talked to her about his issues for so long it’s obvious that he doesn’t know how to initiate in a normal conversation with her anymore. When she finally gives him the go ahead to say it (likely because she was tired of a nonsense filler conversation) he all too eagerly tells it as if he was just biding his time for when she’d let him speak. It’s an asshole move really.

Obviously communicating with your friends and being there for them when they are struggling is good, but whenever Jake seems to talk to Jane, it is only really about his problems. Not to mention, he never talks to the person he’s having issues with (majority of the time Dirk) and instead ghosts them for weeks on end.

Not to mention he’s the one to push her into the conversation.

If you actually read the conversation you will also notice that her messages become more sparse and short while Jake’s get longer while he rambles.

When Jake says “laying low” he means ignoring and avoiding Dirk’s attempts to actually try and talk. Not to mention he also insults Dirk by saying he is “needy” and that essentially saying he is tired of Dirk’s company.

And here we fucking are folks, the bread and fucking butter of this whole convo, the shit and jam. Saying that Dirk is annoying and that his “paranoid prophecy” (you know, the one about all of his friends hating him?) is going to come true, aka saying that he does hate Dirk and no longer even wants to interact with him. And guess what? Jake is not even trying to communicate with Dirk on the matter and is instead dumping all this shit ON THEIR FRIEND.

Anyways, let’s skip to when Jane starts getting upset.

In this scene, Jake is practically ignoring her until she basically begins screaming at him. Not to mention the two last messages from Jake are extremely dismissive and so incredibly un-self aware.

Again with his strange quips and being weirdly self deprecating and pity-ing towards himself.

You can very clearly tell she’s upset, reclaiming something she let be their thing but changing it to just hers. Instead of doing the rational thing which would be to apologize, continue this at a later date or ask what you can do to make it up, he focuses on the semantics of the phrase, trying to come up with a new one. This is very obvious that he’s avoiding the topic because he’s uncomfortable with the thought of facing these issues.

After that, on page 5528, she TELLS him the issue and proceeds to keep doing the thing that’s making her UPSET.

She then freaks out again and then Jake finally tries to do something smart by insisting that they talk about it tomorrow (something JANE insisted on EARLIER) and then when she gets more upset and Jake proceeds to basically Jane not to be upset (“Aw come on jane. be a sport.”)

TLDR; stop woobifying Jake English and acknowledge the fact that he also fucks up, just like his friends.

[mistress-of-vos]

Saw an old post from a Tim hater saying that J***n was 100% justified and correct for beating a 14-15yo Tim at Titans Towers because Tim was "rude" and "underestimated J's time as Robin" and you know....

Putting aside that the take is clearly just Tim hate and trying to justify a completely unjustified act of violence that wasn't even meant to solve anything but only was an angry J hurting Bruce's actual Robin, I think it's hilarious.

Under the logic of "rudeness" being a valid excuse to beat someone up, we would have the following:

Tim having a right to beat Damian, as Damian was (emphasis on was!!!) rude, cruel and even attacked Tim for real back in the day.

Jean-Paul would be justified in beating Dick up (something that will never happen), as Dick has always been mean to JP.

Lex Luthor would be correct to hurt basically 90% of the hero community, which has, for ridiculous reasons, talked about him despite never meeting him.

Ra's al Ghul would have the right to beat up basically all the bats. Yes, all bats.

Tara Markov aka Terra would need to beat Rose Wilson at Titans Tower level. And probably beat the Titans again so...

(And I'm not even touching less known characters or long-lived female characters such as Kori, Babs, Selina or Lois 😭!!!)

TLDR: Not all violent acts done by our favs are justified, and that's fine. And even if we feel like some acts could be emotionally reasonable, that doesn't mean they stop being wrong.

Plus, it's interesting to me that people hold Tim more accountable for punching Damian one time but somehow can't do the same regarding J beating Tim up unprovoked as a way to get to Bruce. I know, it's just fandom being biased, but at least have the decency to NOT tag Tim on your posts so that I don't have to see your delulu hate towards him 🤷