#I DIDNT MISSPEAK

[barnbridges]

valentine's day should be about henry winter rescuing his girlfriend from her abuser actually, the only adulterated display of kindness and love he's shown to anyone.

[sollucets]

only friends episode 3 bts x neomark talking about boston

[awesamforehead]

god 2020 was so gentle. The worst thing was the speedrunning controversy. We had tales and Minecraft manhunt and no CCs with crab mentality pulling each other down.

*cow in water meme* man

Take me fucking back, please

[echo-rambles]

when lee know misspoke and said he didn't know whose daughter changbin was, is it funnier if he actually meant he didn't know whose daughter FELIX was; implying a secret love affair with han? or if he meant to imply that changbin could actually be the secret child of hyunjin and seungmin and he's suspected for awhile?

[mclwcc]

respectfully what's ableist about calling lando a dumbass ?

nothing usually, but when its specifically abt spelling things wrong it just feels kinda shitty to me to make fun of someone whos mentioned having dyslexia several times 🤷🏻‍♀️

[uwooyoungs]

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[weirdmageddon]

i love these tags this person is so right

actually, can you imagine if dave was raised by B1 roxy?

i wanna get into this actually

(ok i had to spend a few hours rewriting this because IT DIDNT FUCKING SAVE AFTER FIVE HOURS OF WRITING WHEN MY COMPUTER UPDATED WHILE I WAS AFK so it would mean a lot to show this post some appreciation. i LOVEEE hearing what other people have to say)

even though these things mom does are presented in an extravagant, kitsch, jokey way, her intentions always came from a place of sincerity. she is simply Funnie

but rose reads too far into it and assumes things that aren't there, that her mother is passive-aggressively feigning interest in rose's interests simply because the things she does are so extra. "why do all of this if not to mock me"

im telling you right now if dave lived in this household he wouldn't assume antagonism, he'd go,

don’t forget who LITERALLY patented tangible jpeg artifacts as their post-scratch adult self and scattered shitty scummed up statue of liberties all over the planet. theres no way some of that overboard artful shit wasnt post-ironic / circling back around to genuine funny sincerity

dave's natural state is funny sincerity like roxy. he's had the natural capacity for this type of humor from the start and this is the direction he goes towards when he grows out of his brother's shadow by the end of the comic. dave and roxy share an earnest “so bad its good” type of humor

(lots more under the cut; the length of this meta analysis just got unwieldly with all the pictures and whatnot)

despite the alcoholism, roxy is a supportive mother. she's not the ideal guardian but hells of a lot more supportive of her kid than bro is. if she knew dave's interests she would totally indulge in them with some over the top silly goofy haha shit as a genuine gesture simply because she loves him

rose isn't too keen on it though. but she is more similar to dirk in her natural state of thinking of overthinking shit and assuming the worst, like the tags said

and yes dave got the sweet cuddly yet sometimes backhanded ouppy gene from roxy, probably even moreso lol

roxy's even said rose "sounds like girl dirk"

side tangent here, but this is something i wanna talk about.

i dont think bro should ever be in custody of children ever but if theres anyone who would be up to the task it's rose probably. i know she'd be able to keep up with him. not only does she have a defined personality (dave is more malleable and absorbs his environment like a sponge), if anyone can pick apart B1 dirk's batshit brain and probably be right on the money it's her. lil cal has been pumping patriarchal nonsense into bro's head and rose would be able to bring the fucking facts to the table without losing her own and being a living example of a badass little girl. i also don't think bro would try to force masculine roles onto rose like he did with dave, seeing as she is a girl, so she would actually have more of a leg up and get some passes that dave was never afforded. and rose wouldn't stand idly and accept any bullshit; she is no doormat. and i think this would earn bro's respect

but anyway, from this, couldn't we conclude roxy "sounds like girl dave"?

yeah okay. we havent even gotten into their penchant for funny typos or misspeaks, deliberate or otherwise

so, dave's environment

the sentiment "god you hope you can be as good as your bro at this some day" might have been genuine at the time when he idolized bro but of course he's not able to express that in any sort of sincere fashion because he's in dirk's fucking household. and this level 10 irony shit isnt doing dave any favors

his role models were the Internet and a vague idea of what Bro was like. So he built up his facade based on irony–not the literary definition of irony, as Rose might be quick to point out, but a popular concept of irony based on the idea that things that didn’t make sense actually made sense in some roundabout way. As a master of irony, Dave probably reasoned, he could see in a way other people couldn’t why a world that was scary and didn’t make sense really did make sense, and could therefore convince those people that he was superior to them. And he would wield his knowledge to maintain the appearance of superiority by calling everything ironic and pretending he didn’t care about things that didn’t make sense, and he would use walls of vaguely rhyming words to keep everyone at arm’s length so they wouldn’t discover his insecurities (source)

roxy's style is the embodiment of post-irony. being raised by mom lalonde would be like being raised by joel vinesauce ok

what can i say ….. (getting meta about this actually, hussie got these jpeg wizard wallpapers from a spyware website. link takes some time to load because internet archive)

rose is quick to read post-irony as actually being a joke/insincere, which in bro's case would be true. but i believe dave's natural instinct, outside of the influence of bro, is to read post-irony as genuine, which is exactly how mom serves it. we see this as early as act 3 from him; he understands her motives better than rose does herself:

and in act 6 intermission 2 i think it's pretty clear

but the thing is, it's always genuine from her. dave wouldn't have to second guess it because he's not one to naturally second guess someone's sincerity; that was learned due to his bro being virtually unassailable

there two types of ironies at play here:

seems like a joke, is actually genuine (roxy)

doesnt seem like a joke, is actually a joke (dirk)

you can make the argument that the second is is more psychologically destructive because it makes you question the reality of what is genuine sentiment and what isn't. dave never knew what was genuine and what was irony so he just sort of existed in this sincerity-ironic limbo and always did the opposite of what he genuinely felt on principle even if it always did originate from a genuine place.

"it just a joke bro i was just being ironic i dont actually x" is so much more trust-breaking and psychologically damaging than "wait are you being serious" / "i am being so fucking fr rn davy gravy" / "ok thats actually pretty fucking awesome. giant ass wizard statue" / "RIGHT"

how much about dave would change do you think? his character arc would be completely different for one thing, i think he'd have it good aside from mom's alcohol issues. he'd be left with the sweet and funny parts of him that we see at the end of the comic. the fake coolguy stuff is out, but this remains. this is dave in his element and we see it as early as act 1

he'd probably have no shades growing up in the lalonde residence* either cause those were given to him by bro straight out of the crater as an extension of his own cool image. and john gave dave ben stiller’s aviators for his 13th birthday to replace them so he could “spread his wings”

dave said he was wearing them for the ironies but i kind of doubt it. maybe post-irony but there was some reacharound to it being genuine because dave never put those pointy anime shades on his face again.

*though... it’s kind of hard to imagine him without his shades at all? B2 dave still got stiller’s shades from stiller himself so maybe getting them is a universal constant. i can imagine mom getting him them as a birthday gift cause shes pretty wealthy and probably could buy it out in an auction. but also itd be cool if john still gave him it as a gift

dave is actually a lot more genuine and easy to read than he lets on even when grappling with his upbringing with B1 dirk (again, see this post). this can be seen all throughout he comic but a good example is the evolution of thoughts about his interest in the preserved dead things in his room:

if B1 roxy was dave's guardian he probably WOULD have pursued paleontology because she wouldve indulged him in it and probably find it cool and worthwhile to pursue, instead of allowing dave to flounder under ironic detachment, being poisoned by irony to the point of gaslighting himself into believing he doesnt actually believe he thinks this shit is cool. even if it was indulged in this such a way; a superficially kitsch and ironic appearing presentation, it comes from a genuine place and inspires genuine interest. just read the comments.

basically, i think if B1 roxy raised dave, their relationship would have a surface level appearance of being bizarre or over-the-top but they’d have an unsaid mutual understanding that it’s completely in earnest and just build on each other's funny and absurd gestures of affection. rather than seeing it as one-upping each other, it'd more like collaboration of some silly bullshit that you take a step back and look at full and just say, "fucking incredible"

speaking of paleontology, mom had the proto-ectobiology lab. maybe they'd be able to use the equipment to appearify paradox ghost imprints of the dead shit to create paradox clones of things from the cambrian era??? sounds like a fun mother son bonding activity. and theyd actually put the sciencey shit in the household to use

oh god i know exactly the kinds of music shed listen too also growing up as a teen in the 80s. she on that (post)-punk/art rock/new wave/new romantic mtv stuff. XTC shit fr. this is a B-52S HOUSEHOLD. maybe the associates for the campy melodramatic flair. so he gets to keep the record on his shirt cause he is an enjoyer of the shit in her vinyl collection. dave would still gravitate towards musical expression and music itself but of more variety outside of just rap, with an 80s-90s, even 70s flavor due to mom’s influence. see this for perhaps a glimpse. ​she probably visited new york city a lot for business trips and because the music scene was cool as hell around that time, imports came straight from jfk airport, she probably got in on that a bit and have remnants in the form of vinyls and cassettes. in this way she could be distributing void to dave (influencing him with forgotten / presently irrelevant music). now he can REALLY rave about bands none of his friends have heard of. “hey davy grvay watcha listenin to” (he holds up vinyl cover) “omg snakefinger”

btw dave lalonde would look like this to me

[amplexadversary]

Okay I've gleefully derailed posts before but this is a big derail and kind of dumb so I'm linking it.

When I watch the linked video, I end up thinking of Allenby gossiping about the shuffles, and now I need to headcanon who would likely say what bullshit.

-"I'm going to shit your pants." -> I could see this coming from a few people. Sai is a little fucker, he would make this threat and mean it. Chibodee would say it facetiously. Domon (while I headcanon him to be pretty good with languages) probably isn't above a gaffe where he means to say "I'm going to make you shit your pants," but misspeaks (probably when the guys are getting really rowdy and distracting and everybody's talking over each other.)

-"A duck the size of a tiger would have to be quite stout, I don't know that I could vanquish such a foe." -> George, though he'd choose different words than the video.

-"I'm all wet because Allenby dropped her phone in the river and I jumped in to get it. I can't find it though, can somebody call it while my head is underwater?" -> Domon would do this reflexively. Chibodee probably would as well.

-"I think it's time I come clean, I don't actually understand how wind works." -> Sai would be the funniest person to admit this, with his wind-based super move.

-"toodaloo, kangaroos" -> Domon, because someone told him it's a thing people say in English and he's kind of gullible.

-"Why the hell do we all have identical jackets? I can never find mine. Oh, but it's probably the one with my name on it though." -> while Domon or Chibodee would probably be the most likely to have this kind of brain fart, I think it's funnier if a very tired George says this (... ignore they fact that they don't have matching anything).

-On Monday Sai dared me to eat a spider, so I did. But then later that day I was running up the hill and shit my pants a little. I think those two things were related. -> I'd believe this from three of them in different contexts. Chibodee impulsively agreed to the challenge and admits this because hes mad about it. Argo ate the spider to humor Sai and is trying to discourage the rest of the group from making a similar mistake. Domon ate the spider because Kyoji didnt not have nearly enough chances to teach Domon to be weary of this exact kind of siblingeque horseshit, and we know from how he responds to Master Asia that Domon will just do things that you tell him to. He admits it, begrudgingly, because everybody wants to know why he bailed on them for several hours.

-"Do you guys think my shirt is cute? Too bad, I'm taking it off." "You're cute that way too." -> I could see George and Chibodee, in any order. Chibodee and Domon would only be believable if they're together, and with a massive time skip for them to get comfortable over.

-"My idol is that one dude who ate an entire airplane, love that guy, don't know his name." -> Argo, sarcastically, when Chibodee makes some remark about his physique and asks "what do you eat, sheet metal?"

-"Guys I think I watched the wrong Zootopia." -> Argo probably doesn't only pirate physical goods in the space age. He got a joke translation.

-"Domon, what type of feed does Fuunsaiki like, we want to make him a cake for his birthday." -> I feel like this is George and Argo's planning, and I could see either of them being the one to ask.

-[musing about Ice Age squirrel heteronormativity] -> I think Chibodee's the only one who could reasonably have seen it. He also dyes his hair two colors of the bisexual flag and wears the third so I can see him being annoyed by it.

-"I failed to locate a bear suit, does anybody have a spare bear suit?" -> Tbh this one could be any of them, except George, who is listening with his head in his hands.

-[quoting the infamous Snapcube Eggman rant] -> This is either Sai Saici, or Argo lost a bet to Sai Saici and was told to recite this. Sai is the only one of them I can buy being chronically online enough to reference this. Chibodee looks up Shadow and immediately asks Domon if it's his fursona, which backfires because the only other person in the room who knows what a furry is is Sai.

-"Why aren't you being silly? You promised you would be silly with me." -> ARGO. Said with a straight face to George. (Sai would be too low-hanging-fruit here, but I guarantee he's also looking at George expectantly. Admittedly, part of why I can see this coming from Argo is because of choices the dub made with how he speaks.)

-"Rain sent me this picture. I thought she was telling me that she was pregnant, but this is a covid test. She does have covid." -> Domon. Also worded a little differently than the original. While he did spend half his childhood in a jungle with Master Asia, he's probably seen pregnancy tests in drug stores when they have to make very occasional supply runs. Sai has probably also showed everyone the meme where people would edit a pregnancy test into various pictures.

[thesmpisonfire]

Oh, im so sorry! i didnt know you're unable to open links.

this is what ana's posts (the one that was linked) says (its about the xenophobia btw)

"also i will fall on my sword and try to clarify things that can be lost in translation and can just be simple misspeaking:

no one is upset that quackity made statements in spanish. we're upset that he made no private statement, and his public ones were at inaccessible times for the workers affected, in a language the majority do not understand, and that he has no subtitles / the translation website wasn't fucking working.

speaking in spanish = obviously okay

speaking in spanish without subtitles when saying nothing to his workforce / said workforce having to tune in to twitch.tv in the middle of the night to find out their employment status = not okay"

"Inaccessible time for the workers affected" so only the french ones? Bc the first statement was in english and it was almost as quick as Quackity could make and it was late to EVERYONE. Then the others that he got better understanding about whats going on he spoke in spanish bc he didn't want to be misunderstood and wanted all info to come from him. It was a shot in his feet?? Yes it was. But he doesn't owe anyone to speak in english, that's the truth

Also, coming here and saying "It wasn't xenophobia, Lea and Lumi didn't mean to 🥺🥺" to a latino that read over and over thinking ey were going insane and reading too much between the lines until others agreeded that it was fucking xenophobic and then speaking about it just to be shut off bc "im lost in translation" is really bold

Toma no cu gringo do caralho

[transenbyconfessions]

Sometimes i think of my old homeroom teacher. She's the only person in an authorative possition and not a friend that used they/them for me. I'm pretty open in being non binary but everyone just defaults to she/her and i dont bother with changing that (i look feminine so people dont want to use he/him and my country's they/them isnt used a lot).

But i will never forget just correcting her once, "oh i'm not a girl, i'm non binary haha." She didnt go "oh ok. Anyway" and continue to call me female things (something im used to), she instantly asked me what she can and cant refer to me as. I told her im fine with most things just as long as im not called a woman or other female words. I mentioned my pronouns but also "well its tough so you can keep using she her." Something that hurts to say but i was used to letting people walk all over me like that. She also specifically asked "do your parents support it?" And i told her somewhat yes. They mostly see it as a trend but wouldnt stop me from identifying as such.

And then she had a conversation with my parents like a month later. Not once did she use she/her. I didnt notice it at first and thought she was misspeaking but no, she kept saying things like "they're doing really well in this subject but they need to study this one. Their grades are good" etc. And my heart was jumping so hard when she did. I've had normal "yay someone used my pronouns!" moments but having a teacher, someone who wasnt in my age range, use my pronouns made me go crazy. I'll never forget that day, and i hope she knows how much pure joy she brought me then. And her asked me if my parents knew made so much sense after this, she was checking for my safety, if she could validate my gender without outing me or upsetting my parents.

I miss you ma'am, you were the best ally i could have asked for. And you gave me so much hope 💖

Submitted June 16, 2023

[annapotterkiku]

i think izzy going "at no point did i want to channel the previous owner of this ship" when ed is headed upstairs to punish the crew is him backtracking to protect the crew. izzy hesitates before saying "maybe we could…. talk it through?" like hes deliberately mimicking stede in an attempt to get to ed, theres no way in hell he would misspeak like that man knows so fucking well how saying the wrong shit could get you killed in this line of work. hes trying to appeal to the ed before the toe scene who was heartbroken by stede but still practicing stedes philosophy, trying to use stedes way of doing things bc he saw that ed was swayed by it so easily when stede did it. (especially after his "i have love for you" card obviously didnt work, ed doesnt give a shit about izzys way of loving ed so izzy thought he would try rationalizing with him like stede would.)

[wawagooba]

Im honestly sad about alex jones auctioning off infowars lol.

If anything, that should tell you he was never a psyopp, nor fed,nor even buddybuddy with trump. He was always an antifascist, antistate beligerent showman. And it kind of sucks that all those years of work will be lost. No joke infowars has gotten me through my darkest times Ive been entertained and laughing thgough it all. Id hate to have a legacy of antistate entertsinment be buried and left to rott under he said x school shooting never happened! Which he didnt lol, some callers did, and as you do in live television sometimes u misspeak or just say whatever. Uve never agreed with someone just to shut them up? I do it all the time lol.

[nb-confessions]

transfem nb here to say that im not "fem aligned" whatever that means, and I'm not treated as 'women-lite' because I'm treated as a man because people "act like amab enbies aren't real."

and i have to confess that i think its weird that someone messaged you about amab enbies not being seen as real and then you didnt talk about amab enbies in the reply at all, and acted as if the confession was from someone who gets treated as women-lite for being afab instead of from someone who gets treated as not trans for being amab

That is valid and I did misspeak. I should have been more careful and I apologize for that. I will go back and fix that. Very sorry about that, genuinely. Thank you for pointing this out to me so that I can fix the post and also better myself. Sorry that it took a confession to see what was wrong with my response. - 🐦‍⬛

[thekidsarentalright]

Regarding the Andy thing from the q and a. Assuming he didn't misspeak why did you assume Patrick and not Joe?

tbqh because i didnt personally watch that part of the q&a and ppl who Were watching and talking about it were saying it was abt patrick so that's what i went with too naturally fksdjnfs i suppose it also could've been about joe!

[blueiight]

The set design lady said the NOLA filming was for early episodes like 2.01, 2.02, 2.03 so I think its just more rue royal flashbacks or additional context, or perhaps she misspoke we knows. I do think with the huge change in timeline the end of iwtv/tvl NOLA scenes might not exist and that drama will take place in Dubai instead since L/A never broke up. I really don't think the show is gonna be like oh yah L&A broke up but then got back together as a flashback? If that happens it will be in the present day more likely.

hmm great points . im inclined to think she didnt misspeak if shes the set designer she know what they doing im thinking theyre filming the scenes in prague first then theyll go back to new orleans shoot some flashbacks & maybe situate the end of interview w a+l linking w les in the modern day ? we shall see

[fairuzfan]

ok but i'm asking if walz himself responded which thank you for finding this wsj article, it seems like he didnt. i am not like... saying anything untruthful for a comparison to vance, even if walz did misspeak its not out there for me to expect a correction? when i originally heard it i thought he mispoke trying to say "prevent the expansion of iran and its proxies" but he never (to my current knowledge) came out and corrected himself. so i'm going to take him at his word. you're making assumptions of what he meant to say and taking it as fact. at the very least, if he did misspeak, he didn't think it was a big enough deal to correct himself which is a problem in itself.

also like, ok, he knows he misspeaks but considering a literal war that is currently going on, i would assume he would want to correct it to avoid misrepresenting the US's position?? sorry but i dont really care if he says he'll "talk a lot" as a way to excuse himself of misspeaking he's running for vice president of the united states. i hold him to a higher standard of clarity than i do most people??

Has anyone asked him to clarify what he means by this because this is outright endorsing colonization and I can't believe the democrats were so obvious as to admit to this. Usually they sugarcoat their language but I guess they don't even care anymore???