#Hazbin alistor

[ilikelookingatthings]

Some radiostatic theories

SO I like many who have watched read or come across hazbin hotel have gotten a mini fixation on the character Alistor, a red suspitious always smiling, radio deer cannibal serial killer, and Vox, a TV headed hynosis demon who is persuasive with his grin and is one of the overlords in the v club(including Valentino the moth man who runs a porn studio and Velveete who is a influencer fashion demon).

For me it's the draw of the t.v. killed the radio star vibes. They clearly used to be friends as vox is obsessed with him where Val brought him up to get under his skin, he has a old ripped picture of alistor and he had apparently asked alistor to join them before and was turned down... they clearly had big falling out.

There is alot of fun to play with. Some enjoy the one sided potential drama of vox being in love with alistor and that not being reciprocated because alistor might be somewhere on the acespectrum(not that alistor seems complete aware of that since he had no idea what Rosie meant when she called him a aceinthehole).

most who enjoy the one-sided view call it radiosilence.

Some enjoy the angst that is the pain of losing a friend when you don't return the romantic feelings. And that vox is the one at fault for leaving alistor behind by going with Val and Velveete and letting the chase of what's new creating a rift.

Some enjoy the idea of bitter ex boyfriends.

That the obsession isn't as one-sided as alistor didn't ignore vox's provocation.

Some make it about just romance being tye reason for the fall out...

....but honestly for me they give a kindof mister crabs, plankton energy. They are both in hell so are terrible people to some degree sp it would be a bit boring if the fall out was just about romance...a possible good opportunity to address unrequited love or the spectrum maybe but does feel kindof simple.

Especially considering the potential in rival best friends turn enemy old men have.

Friendship wise its already juicy for angst. Was it a misunderstanding? Lots of built up problems? Drifting apart as friends? A sense of betrayal on both ends?

Some people lean over one being more at fault than the other. A few lean to them both sucking. Some say jt was vix who didn't respect alistor just didn't like him back...others say it was alistor rejecting vox.

I would like to raise the theory that if vox DID have a crush on alistor...vox either didn't know he had it...or vox decided to not adress it because their friendship was more important to him and he could tell alistor didn't like him back romantically and that their fall out was from other issues in their friendship...like potentially love coukd be why vox felt more extremely hurt but I think it would be more interesting if vox's issue wasn't about unreturned feelings.

Like what if vox tried to distract himself to maje sure alistor wouldnt feel uncomfortable to make sure alistor didn't catch on to his crush and hence Valentino steps in who alistor might find worse in general?

And if it really was just a business partnership vox offered where he was just hurt his friend didn't join him on.

Makes me way more curious about their dynamic if their friendship was sincere but issues popped up.

What theories to others have that it might have played out? I'm just saying for someone who says he hates alistor why did he keep the side of the photo that has alistor on it and not himself?

What if alistor was the one with a crush but vox didn't realize is another interesting one since alistor is so pissed he seems to hate TV and other things involved vox despite how new media is interesting and alistor does know how to shoot a commercial and this way he does get vox's attention.

We've also seen alistor have a questionable triebd in mimsy...but did he really tell Mimsy to leave ciz he was upset...or does he care and doesn't want her involved with what he's doing now? And could that echo what he might have done with vox?

Heck it could be possible neither is aware of potential romanic feelings at all. Are in denial. One sided...betrayal because they had unrequited feelings that weren't returned...or feeling betrayed the other had romantic feelings whether they wanted to act on it or not.

Maybe it wasn't about romance and about how they handled friendship? Or just creative differences in how they handled things...competion driving them apart or how hell encouraged your worst self to come out. Heck they both could just have bruised pride somewhere that escalated.

[thishazbinathing]

Let a man have his breakfast

[oatmealdoodles]

These two old saucy ladies would gossip to each other

Edit: how is this my first post to hit 1k likes? I didn’t even render it? HOW?

[ilikelookingatthings]

oooooh I LIKE this one.

Though the thing I wouldn't understand is God not forgiving Adam.....like arguably if Adam is in heaven that means he earned his place... so that means God DID forgive Adam. I feel like God not forgiving him feels weird I guess? Since it wouldn't really add or take away a issue for adam in the situation.

And I think its objectively more unsettling if Adam was forgiven and it's suppoused to be his great rest and relaxation where he's accepted back in but they don't know what to do with him anyways.

I also think maybe add a bit more to the angels reasoning... like sure lucifer was the main one incharge of interacting with the humans and most angels have their own separate job so might not know how to treat him but Adam also lived to be around 900 on earth in some translations right? Shouldn't the angels have time to prepare? Or did him appearing in heaven surprise them a bit like sir pentious did?

Were the angels just always in their biblically accurate unsettling forms they must remind humans(adam) to not be afraid of since the only ones around angels were angels at that point? After all Adam had to get used to being afraid and survival and being cautious because creatures who used to be his friends in eden would try to kill him and his family which creates a survival instinct on what to be afraid of....would that have kicked in for Adam around the angels if the angels weren't actively trying to look non-threatening or familar?

Something they probably got the hang of after more humans appeared by might have forgot to do for Adam since he was the first.

Like sometimes it easier to interact with someone when you visit them but get weird when they live with you or the normals rules don't apply anymore...like seeing someone you've only ever seen in school suddenly appear out of that setting.

Would some of the angels feel weird about going near Adam because from our perspective lucifer led humans astray but maybe part of the angels worry that getting too near humans might cause them to fall if it even cause God's favorite lucifer to fall? After all there do end up being other fallen angels.

Would the angels just have a different understanding of time compared to Adam? After all unlike angels.... humans actually grow, change and could die and don't last THAT long compared to how angels don't really grow or age? Especially when time is a odd concept in heaven and hell vs earth.

So they don't actually think they've been leaving Adam alone for that long? Along with being busy checking in on all the alive humans who can actually change and affect things...maybe they just thought Adam woukd be fine?

Would they be worried because they might not have detailed answers to any questions he might have? Like where is Abel? Will Caine be okay? Eden was destroyed sorry you can't see it anymore even if this is heaven? Woukd they assume other angels were dealing with Adam? Would Adam be nervious in heaven to ask questions or anything because what if he messed something up again?

Like adam has never TRULY been alone on earth for long and he always had something to DO. Name the animals, protect eve and his kids, work the fields or hunt so they can survive....worry about everyone ect. And things you did could affect things....but he can't really affect anything now that he's dead....

I wonder if the lack of stimulation was a issue? For Adam going from survival and working hard everyday to living where he didn't have to worry about anyone like that anymore....where there was nothing to hurt him. Would it be like he couldn't REALLY relax because he wasn't use to peace anymore? Would he even HAVE food in heaven at first if you can't starve? If you don't really need food anymore?

Since a major thing adam in the show brings up is entertainment?

Would he have been able to see his kids or decedants from heaven? Would he have faced they could see him after he died? Would he go through his past memories to think about what ge coukd have done differently? Would he have tried watching his kids from heaven or grandkids? Assuming it probably took a while to tell him how he could look.

If Abel was missing would he have tried looking for him? Woukd adam just be waiting by the gates for his family?

I REALLY like the idea that to cope Adam might retreat into his memories and faze out....or just talk to others like they're his family?

Do you think adam got better as masking it in heaven(no pun intended)? Like if he projected a family member on a angel on purpose to make them easier to talk to? Or purposefully imagine family members like imaginary friends which would baffle angels even if he WAS more aware since humans will create connections with inanimate objects sometimes? At least compared to the times it woukd happen without him realizing it?

Would they think it was a old person thing at first since sometimes old humans would retreat into their memories at times? Or would they be confused since that's generally due to the body failing/dying and once your in heaven you SHOULD be okay?

After all Adam would be the first old man right?

Was it also a issue for Adam because the way he looked when he died was different than what he looked like in heaven?

Do you think Adam would try to do thinks to get heaven ready for his family showing up just to have something to do?

Would adam get better at blending when it would happen so the angels wouldn't notice or pretend like it was a joke?

I really like the implication that Adam would just disassociate at times...I wonder if that's why lute was around him so much....someone to keep adam feeling social would probably lessen the times it would happen.

Is that why it got triggered in hell more? Because adam was feeling isolated and not getting to talk to people much which brought out the coping mechanism?

Though the fact Vaggie was one of the best angels in the excorcists that he recognized and she had no idea about this aspect of Adam at all is REALLY interesting.

Considering Vaggie has that 'she judges everyone and everything because she hates herself' thing going on and she was strait up grinning when Adam got stabbed. Vaggie getting impatient due to seeing Charlie upset/disapointed feels very incharacter and the implication she was in heaven...one of his top angels and she had no idea...that she misinterpreted his disassociation as him just being above people or that he just ignores people's words....ooooh the implications are FASCINATING.

Like he was the first soul in heaven so he's kindof how heaven fjrst tests how to handle souls in heaven. Like how long would it take them to realize how he was reacting wasn't normal? But then the implications that gets been around so long that alot of people and angels just have no idea about his disassociation...even the people around him the most?

Vaggie is on board with Charlie's redemption plan because how Charlie made her feel but Vaggie not even realizing this about Adam her commander? Like angels are suppoused to care for souls in heaven as well as defend them and help guide them. And finding out heaven half assed helping the first one? That apparently in heaven there weren't ways to just instantly fix issues? That maybe it could have be caused or at least wasn't adresses by the angels if they don't just assume it's a old man thing?

And Adam isn't even one to really lie purposefully much so he probably would have been honest if anyone noticed or asked. Has any of the other angels asked? Will vaggie wonder if everyone up there knew but just didn't bring it up and she was the only one who didn't notice? I mean....humans ARE the ones who invented therapy after a LONG trial and error period.

And vaggie just shouted and assumed this guy was purposefully not getting involved all this time but this is just the first time they've really tried confronting him about it....they have no way to know if he's just been keeping to himself or if he's been dissasociating this WHOLE TIME that he's been sitting away from them. That they could have caught it earlier if they tried approaching him more. Like the implication of the mask takes a new meaning if it was to hide sone of the signs...and him talking about himself? Could it be to ground himself in the present potentially(though let's not go crazy makes excuses for his entire personality of course).

I mean hell is for punishments so it makes sense Charlie's therapy is very bare bones so far as redemption isn't a main part of the plan but heaven not knowing how to handle adam even at this point....I mean some of the issues were made in heaven no doubt at this point but if he had any issues from the living world the lack of proper socialization wouldn't help.

I can't tell what what would be worse....

Adam apologizing cuz he thought the disassociation went away and apologizing after genuinely being confused by everyone's reactions.....

Or if Adam was genuinely casual about it because for him it's the norm cuz as the first soul he sets the standard. Like how would they have reacted if he really was super casual about it not being a big deal. Like angel dust can be or Susan. Just all casual that it happens sometimes...just ignore it, it'll go away or sort itself out eventually.

I mean. This is hell so how woukd they know this ISN'T the norm to some degree?

Like you kindof baffled apologetic adam hits HARD. But I'm somehow more intrigued if Adam was seriously casual about it that he's confused why it would cause this much alarm. Or him having no idea him sitting to the side was bothering them so much so thinks they should be taking it less personally now that they know that it wasn't like he was actively ignoring them.

Or would he think maybe he should get a bit more involved since he forgot has more social interaction is suppoused to help lesson the symptoms....

Do you think he didn't talk about it much since Angels are suppoused to have their shit together and them messing up how they handled afam was their practice run to help work out the kinks for the rest of humanity to follow adam going to heaven? He didn't want the decdants who followed him to heaven to get too worried?

Though lucifer? Are you really one to talk about normal when you've only ever see the souls that end up in hell and you and the other fallen angels have your own issues to deal with?

Like adam is giving them a opening to try to adress this kindif but if he was blunter and more casual about it just being a thing with him....makes me wonder what woukd happen if he gave them no openings to adress it? Like charlie let's slide a series cannibal as normal by this point.

Like imagine adam just thinking they are being ridiculous over thinking it when it's not like he is hurting anyone during this.

Lowket makes me imagine prilla from neverfairies and the quest for the egg with the phasing out to something that brings comfort.

Like is it a secert in heaven or did adam just thinks most angels kindof knew by now since its not like he was actively hiding it when he was in heaven at the begining for so long. Like maybe he thought it would have at least been brought up....I wonder if sera agreed to the extermination idea that maybe stimulation of life abd death and him having as job might help focus hjm(you know aside from how it wad a convient solution for Sara's sinner over population problem).

Though the DANGER adam could have been in during battle where he could have died in hell at any point if his dissassociation kicked in at a bad time?

Do you think lilith knows? Lucifer didn't seem aware til now but lucifer has his own probably and he never actually gets to hang with Adam.

and Charlie's gonna have a interesting time with this. It's not like she's a actual licensed therapist and if they figure out how alone adam was in heaven before their was alot to occupy the mind...like will hell residents have a easier time figuring out that's a torture technique?

Is it better or worse that it might have been a accident? And by now woukd adam have figured out to some degree how he had been affected due to what happens to other humans on earth? Would he just be resigned that the affects just aren't going away at this point?

Though the idea he thought maybe it would go away wigh having become a sinner....does increase the idea the disassociating started only in heaven....thw fact he hadn't noticed despite thinking he was talking to his kids....though seeing how he really tex kindly to his kids while doing so...would that give the residents a new look at adam who hasn't opened his heart to them yet?

Like how we softened to adam when he gave that smile to lute. I weirdly want to see him react to nifty while like this considering tge size difference.

And the lore drop potential depending on how he reacts and who he sees and which residents have to deal with it. Adam not even expecting any different treatment cuz he never really got it in heaven and to him nothing has changed at all cuz he's always been like this?

The train of thought is chew chewing like a everlasting gobstopper!

And alistor being petty trying to act like Adam's crazy just for adam qho beat his ass before to roast him to not brushing his teeth with the color. Getting the other residents to enjoy that holy burn...even lucifer with Charlie going more in defense mode. XD genuinely fun

Ok. Hear me out- just- a minute of your time please.

I don't know if this counts as a headcanon or just being a part of my main au (not the unrequited love one) but-

I feel like Adam probably disassociates a lot. Like he was the first human soul in heaven and we don't know when the next human soul arrived after him so he was just in heaven for hundreds of thousands of years (in my au it's closer to two million which makes it even worse) and he's got no one to talk to. I mean yeah he has the angels but they don't really know how to interact with a human - because that's what Lucifer's job was- so they don't really socialize with him like another human would. And God is still extremely upset with Adam.

This cause Adam to disassociate after some time of basically just being by himself, alone. So when he does slip away into his mind it's back to when he was alive, when he was with his family. Most times it just causes him to stare off into space but other times especially when others are around he talks to them like their his family.

This causes the angels to worry at first and even try to help (Raphael) but it doesn't work. After a while (a couple centuries) they get used to it, they just chalk it up to him previously being human. It's only once more human souls make it to heaven does it become clear that what Adam does isn't that normal.

So I imagine that it would carry over when he becomes a Sinner and he has an episode in front of Charlie and the others and just causes them to be kinda worried. It would go kinda like this:

Everyone is in the lobby, it's a bit late in the morning, close to noon. Charlie like usual, was leading the group in one of her redemption exercises. The activity for the day was to try and recall a funny accident that happened in this life or even when you were still alive. Alastor had told the story of his own death, something he thought was rather funny in hindsight especially considering his appearance as a demon. Everything was going well, except there was one person who refused to join.

That person was Adam, he sat at the bar, back turned to everyone with a bottle in his hand. He had been here for a couple months now but still refused to participate. Charlie had been understanding at first, she could see why he wouldn't want to socialize the people responsible for his death and why everyone else would want to steer clear of Adam. Everyone else eventually just ignored the man and his snide remarks until eventually he didn't even make them, but that's not what Charlie wanted, she wanted him to be apart of the group activities and she wanted everyone to get along.

The only problem was, the last time Charlie tried to get Adam to join ended with him and her Dad fighting, which wasn't pretty.

Vaggie, sensing her girlfriend's growing frustration and worry finally decided to speak out to Adam who was just staring off into nothing.

Vaggie: Why even come down here if you're just gonna sit in your fat ass the whole time?!

Charlie: Vaggie, you don't-

Vaggie: No Charlie, I'm sick of him acting like he's too good for this, like he's better than us.

Charlie: I'm sure Adam doesn't feel like that? Right, Adam?

Adam didn't respond and continued to stare at the glass bottles on the wall. Vaggie got up in a fit of anger and stormed over to Adam who still didn't acknowledge anyone.

Vaggie: He's always been like this! Blocking people out when he doesn't get his way!

She growled and shoved the man in an attempt to push him off his stool, he didn't move much but he did seem to be brought out of his trance and looked down at Vaggie with look before it morphed into a gentle smile.

Adam: Oh, it's you. Don't scare me like that, kid.

Vaggie: Don't call me kid, Adam.

Adam: You're angry? Is it still about what happened?

Vaggie: Of course I'm still angry about that but that isn't-

Adam cut her off by placing a large hand in top of his former soldier's head and ruffling her hair gently. The action left Vaggie speechless and left everyone else confused.

Adam: Don't worry Able, your brother doesn't hate you. I'll make sure Cain says sorry, okay little lion?

Vaggie: ....Huh?

Adam smiled again and got up and stretched, placing the bottle of wine in the table.

Adam: Now where's your mother? Eve?!

He called out to his late wife, walking out of the room.

Vaggie: What...the hell just happened?

Angel: Seems like someones gone a little nuts-o.

Husk: He definitely ain't wrapped too tight.

Alastor: Tragic what a fall from grace will do someone.

Lucifer watched Adam leave with a worried look, one that Charlie shared.

They tried to continue but the atmosphere felt off after the whole incident. It was half an hour later that Adam reentered the room, his normal frown on his face.

Adam: What's with you losers?

Angel: What's with us?

Vaggie: What's with you?!

Adam: I didn't even do anything!

Husk: No shame in being a loony, a lot of people down here are.

Adam: What? Are you calling me crazy? What the hell?

Vaggie: You're the one who called me Able.

Adam:....Wha-....no I didn't.

Charlie: You did call Vaggie Able, you even mentioned Cain.

She said calmly, talk sofly like if she was too loud it would spook the former angel.

Adam: I...shit..

Lucifer: Do you have something to tell us?

Adam had a pained expression on his face, wings pulled close to his sides as fingers anxiously combed through his wings.

Adam: I didn't mean to- I mean..back in heaven I used to black out a lot, say stupid shit, I just thought it had went away after I died again.

Charlie: What do you mean black out?

Adam: Sera said I've been doing it for a while, it started the first couple of thousand years I was in heaven. Look I don't wanna talk about 'kay? Everyone else ignored it.

Lucife: What do mean they ignored it?

Adam: I mean, the angels didn't really know how to deal with it and Dad was still angry with me ...Sera said it happened less once other humans got to heaven. No big deal, just leave me alone when I get all spacey.

Alastor: It seems like you suffer from bouts of disassociation. Who would have thought the first man would belong in the cuckoo's nest?

Adam: Yeah? And you belong in a dentists office with all that plaque in your busted teeth

Angel: Oh my fucking- pfft hahahaha!

Husk covered his mouth and Alastor glared at Adam with the closest he had ever been to a grown on his face.

Lucifer: I thought that was just the color of his teeth! That would explain his bad breath....

Adam: Smells like deer ass.

Lucifer: Swamp balls

Adam: Shit eater!

Lucifer: Shit eater!

Charlie: Stop picking on Alastor!

Vaggie: Shit eater...

Charlie: Vaggie, not you too!

°°

Yeah that ended up being longer than I planned. But I feel like it would cause some interesting interactions, especially when it comes to Charlie trying to help Adam get better and them bonding. Also this isn't the unrequited love AU, that's something completely different.

[hear-my-circles-sing]

"Who's been here since day one?"

Vaggie. The answer is Vaggie.

[shiroitonbi]

アラスター良いキャラクターだよね！

[tonihatessociety]

I have come to believe whoever runs the official Hazbin Hotel account at the moment is the exact same person who also runs the Good Omens Twitter account. Come on the shipping, the sass.

It's the same person and no one can convince me otherwise and they are one of us.

[2ndprinceofdarkness]

Carmilla Carmine.

[lilkittygirleee]

I would just like to say that I really like one-sided radiostatic. I'm meh on just regular radiostatic, but one-sided feels so much better to me. I like the idea of Vox being obsessed with Alastor and Al not giving a single shit

[wolfbeestudio]

What's this? A bunch of evil kitties from Hell? YES PLEASE!

[helluva-simper]

Tv static

“Hello again, my dear~.” He said after opening the door. You growl at him.

You were a fox demon with ears and a tail that looked like TV static. Your teeth baring at him as saliva ran down your mouth. The only thing keeping you from ripping his throat out with your bare teeth was the chains that held you to the wall. Arms, legs, neck, waist. Everything you could think of.

“If you’re planning to kill me then you might as well do it.” You say spitting out blood covered saliva onto the floor from the recent beating you received from not complying with giving him information about the TV man, Vox. To be fair, you didn’t care about Vox or his TV show but seeing Alastor get mad just made you laugh. 

“No, no, no, no, my dear~. You’ve become quite the entertainer.” He replied, booping you in the chest with his staff. “What’s that supposed to mean?!” You yelled confused. 

“Like the fact that even being beat to a pulp you can still be a bitch.” Alastor said pushing your forehead with his staff making you hit your head on the wall. 

You smirk. “Aw, thanks ya, prick.” Alastor sighs, obviously pissed off by your remark. 

Suddenly a plate with soup and crackers appears. “Now in order for you to stay somewhat functional you need to eat.” He takes a spoon and brings it to your mouth.

You open your mouth to say something but he takes it as you wanted food. Once in your mouth, you spit it out, getting some of it on his shoe. 

He makes a disgusted face before shaking his foot to get it off.

“I ain’t eating your prison food!” 

After speaking you feel a wendigo screaming as Alastor tilts his head and his teeth glow. A sharp pain comes from your abdomen as one of his shadow tentacles pierce you.

“Fucking hell.” He quickly pulls it out making you muffle a scream and claw at the floor. 

He laughs at you. Then, he gets an idea. 

He leans over to you taking a bite of the crackers. “Um, what are you doing? If you’re trying to make me jealous, you’re- mmph!”

You are cut off by Alastor’s lips crashing into yours. He was forceful and controlling if you didn’t already know that. Alastor grips at your side making open your mouth allowing him to stick his tongue inside. His tongue tasted like rotten flesh and blood with the crackers adding a saltiness to it. 

He bends his tongue filling your mouth with the dissolved, mushy cracker.

Alastor breaks the kiss, licking his lips. “If you spit it out I WILL drug you then you’ll see what comes next.” He said. Relectaly, you swallow groaning with disgust. 

Alastor laughs. “I hate you, you son of a bitch.” You say wiping the spit off your chin with your shoulder. “Calm down, my darling. It won’t be as hard if you’re just more accepting~.” 

He gets up leaving the food on the ground. “Eat up, my dear.” You flip him off.

Part 2 HERE!!!

[sami-foxxe-fanart]

Alistor showing Lucifer he's not afraid of disrespecting him.

[childeapologist]

"This face was made for radio."

[oatmealdoodles]

they’re in a queer platonic relationship me thinks

[caffeine-addicted-insomniac]

THEY DID NOT JUST REFERENCE THE DEVIL WENT DOWN TO GEORGIA IN HAZBIN HOTEL?!??!!!!

I'm laughing so hard that I'm about to puke 😭

[loppytaffy]

The radio has broadcast the Shipping Forecast since 1861, but not even Alistor foresaw AppleRadio coming.