#Hater and Peepers really are like

[thesecretingredientislove]

Sylvia carrying the whole show (literally)

[narfin-frood]

you got any woy ships you’re interested in?

yeaaaas. i am a skeletondance enjoyer through and through. i gotta say it makes me feel deeply insane. the show stoppers kills me every time i rewatch it. It makes me feel physically unwell.

i am also very staunch in my belief that syl and dominator are both lesbians, individually or together. either they're lesbian friends who play poker together and hate each other lowkey or they kiss each other either way is acceptable

i do also enjoy peepers/hater but for different and less intense reasons than skeletondance

ok on my priv twt i did make a ship tierlist but honestly since woy doesnt have a proper ensemble cast it doesnt make very much sense to me to have a full tierlist? idk anyway these are my opinions in a shellnut

[sysig]

Take care of him (Patreon)

[twptwp]

[fukia]

wander over skullgirls

I cant believe dominator impaled Sylvia in the ribs. So sad that peepers remained too hot to handle. Emperor Beowulf outliving his awesome made cry. How can one wander if one’s limbs are a gone-r?

[awesomebutunpractical]

Just realized that Lloyd the Watchdog is romantic rivals with his boss in the loosest possible sense.

[ultravioart]

rAAAAAAAAAAAAHH man sometimes otps just give you a bagillion energies of the sun out of NO WHERE

[clover-the-awesomest]

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE SO CUTE

halloween~🎃

[cutepotatook]

Wake up babe!!! new AU just dropped So..what is this Collector Wally AU?

Collector Wally is an insane collector who collects the souls of his copies from other alternate universes. His own universe was destroyed due to the overload of time and space from the numerous of AU's, he lost all his friends and loved ones. Now he seeks revenge. Collector Wally lives in a mansionin in a sort of hidden pocket dimension with his little assistant cleaner Helper Wally. (yeah!! two Wallys!!!) There he keeps his collection of souls and paintings.

Collector found Helper in one of the completely destroyed universes all alone, he felt bad for a small version of himself, so he sheltered him in his mansion as an employee. Now the guy works for the man as a personal cleaner, cleaning every corner in the mansion. After his own universe was destroyed, it really affected his personality, now he is closed and silent sour little guy. (They are like lord Hater and commander Peepers you know, but Collecor is a little more serious and Helper is more tired and doesn't care about this shi-)

Since y/n died in their universes, in this universe y/n was found by Collector in a god-forsaken universe to which they do not even belong. They don't remember their past, knowing only that their own no longer exists. Collector was amused and interested, so he took y/n to his mansion, now they share the duties with Helper.

I'M LAZY SO I'LL TELL THE REST NEXT TIME......SORRY.... And it's just a concept, so uh yeah

Sorry if you find any mistakes here and if you want, you can ask me questions and I will answer <3

[wanderloveshater]

Two smart guys with 80’s tech can only do so much. It took them years to make the portal, one that breaks down everytime it activates.

For Commander Peepers? He can make a portal in a quarter of that time that’s stable.

It wouldn’t break down and would be able to control the excess energy that emits from it.

Peepers is the perfect pawn for Bill. Socially outcast with a crippling insecurity about his height, the desire to be praised and hold power over others, painfully lonely with a brilliant mind- he mirrors Ford in this way. I believe one of the WOY crew members emphasized him being different from the watchdogs.

It’s so easy for Bill; what do we have here? A smart guy who builds evil planet-destroying devices? Handling complex machinery?

He’s got a high IQ- misguided by his adoration for his stupid leader. The need for approval is crippling. So what can we do? Our little song and dance-

Bill’s experience speaks for itself. It would take very little effort, no questioning or anything- kind of boring, really.

Oh and Peepers has just been WAITING for someone to realize his true potential!

It’s all the same with Ford. He wants to feel special. The way Peepers would cling, claw, ride the high of the teensy bit of praise Hater gave him months ago…it makes Bill laugh. Such a sucker. A mathematically talented genius with more weaknesses than anyone can count.

So here we are, Peepers wants power. He wants respect. He wants to be seen. Bill promises Peepers a sense of social validation- to be adored- and eventually feared by his peers, and in extension, the galaxy. In return, Bill wants a portal- instead of spinning it as a “gateway for infinite knowledge of the universe” he can actually be a little more truthful. He’ll tell Peepers it can be used as an unstoppable weapon of destruction, better than what Major Threat had, better than what Lord Dominator had. The Peepers empire- I mean- The Hater empire would conquer the galaxy. Bill can come into this plane and they’ll rule everyone, side by side, Muse by Painter.

It’s a win win! Come on Peepers! Take the deal! When was the last time you played chess with someone that was actually smart enough to compete against you?

Infatuation: We saw how easy it was for Ford to be a Cipherholic. For many others to be. Peepers would unfortunately fall for his flattery. Under the assumption that Peepers is in love with Hater- (idolization if you wish) this prevents him from fully going evil, betraying everyone at once, I think.

But Peepers does get a little tired here and there putting up with Hater’s stupidity. Everyone’s stupidity, actually.

But Bill?

Bill has a lot of knowledge of the universe and intelligence.

Peepers would feel so intellectually stimulated by their conversations- likely about quantum theories, astrophysics, how stupid everyone is. There’s one thing Peepers has going on instead of Ford. Ford isn’t directly malicious or evil (besides the revenge fantasies), but Peepers is. He’d find Bill’s sadistic humor to be funnier than Ford ever did. Bill likes that.

Planting these seeds in Peeper’s brain- like the portal- Peepers would reach worship levels faster than Ford.

“I want to feel tall.”

“I’ll make you feel tall.”

Possession: This one is funny to think about, Bill’s unhinged behavior is exponential. He uses his charisma to gain social approval with the watchdogs and Hater’s favor in Peepers’ body. He probably wouldn’t have to complete all the calculations that Ford needed help with- really the possession is just so Peepers is more likable.

Bill’s feelings: Peepers was the easiest pawn to entrance. Bill finds this rather boring. There’s nothing to sink his teeth into- nothing to tear. Just a hollow puppet. He isn’t weird enough for Bill to enjoy, he seems rather logical and put together. Sure he’s shorter than everyone but was he born with any extra features that makes him an anomaly? But he’s certainly the most efficient puppet, so he’s gotta keep that going.

Peepers would also catch Fiddleford and Ford’s mistakes with the portal’s code.

Sort of like, “Oh haha, whoever did this code is so stupid, have they considered their calculations would blow up the entire room?!”

Bill being Bill, filled with bitterness, would agree in tandem at first. “Haha YEAH my last guy wasn’t up to par!”

Before uh, Peepers gets carried away and Bill’s own complicated feelings about Ford arise.

“Seriously, have you seen this derivative answer?! A traffic cone could have done better-”

“That’s enough”

Ford: I don’t have a set story/timeline for these two in mind, but I would like to imagine Ford’s reaction. Being unable to stop the vicious cycle repeat chokes him. Warning Peepers and all, oh don’t fall for it, he’ll betray you, promise you a galaxy, yadda yadda…

But Peepers only hears that last part.

“My own galaxy…?”

“Yes, he’ll make you ‘one of them’ and promise ultimate power with no law or restrictions- everything you could dream of- but DO NOT fall for it!”

Peepers falls for it. Or rather embarasses himself- Bill does not care for Peepers in this way. He’d never offer this unless it was for gain, so what does Peepers do? Throw himself to Bill and the Henchmaniacs- pleading to be a part of them. All that results from that is being laughed out of the room. Doesn’t help that he's the shortest.

Peepers doesn’t fit in with the watchdogs, or even the crazy weirdos/freaks.

He is truly alone.

[deeply-unserious-fellow]

NO BUT LIKE ADAM AND LUTE REALLY ARE JUST HATER AND PEEPERS IN A DIFFERENT FONT LIKE-

Biggest asshole alive x Pick me bitch that prevents them from getting themself killed

HEIGHT DIFFERENCE

They. They dress the same. They literally dress the same I cannot stress this enough tHEY ARE WEARING THE SAME OUTFITS

Like Lute and Peepers even both have Slight Differences in their uniform to set them apart from the rest of the army so everybody knows they're Adam/Hater's #1

They're also all terrible people. Just absolutely the worst.

Commit war crimes on the regular

Hater and Adam both have their own rock band

Tell me Hater wouldn't guitar solo someone out of a room. Look me directly in my face and tell me with complete honesty that he wouldn't do that. I fucking dare you.

Highschool bully energy despite all of these people being very much adults

Peepers/Lute being pretty much the only people that Hater/Adam respect in any capacity

Sir

Charlie and Vaggie kinda have Wander and Sylvia vibes. Idk how much this contributes to the post but probably worth noting-

Like- this is the closest to Deathglare I've gotten since Goosepowers I think. And considering Vivziepop did an animation test or smthn of Wander years ago, there's a huge chance these two were actually based off of Hater and Peepers. Idk what to do with this information-

[clover-the-awesomest]

JIHFUWIOJIFUHFWDOJIELFWDHYFOBPIUOJDIK

LET THEM BE NICE TO EACH OTHER IN SEASON 3 PLEASE

Somtimes you just need a friend to get you unstuck

[narfin-frood]

i've been itching to share my swap au since i thought it up, but i think i now finally have an actual baseline to introduce it with!!

the idea isn't that it's a personality swap, but a role swap, with wander and sylvia as antagonists and hater and peepers as the protags, and i have a whole lot to say about it so im gonna go ahead and infodump below the cut

so i've renamed these two, at least, since hater's story has become less about getting over himself and more about how he sees the world Now That He's Gotten Over Himself. i'm calling him The Great (and absent) Lord Lackadaisical right now, but i don't think that's what he'd like to be called, since he's an absent ruler who doesn't really care to be in a position of so much power and would rather fuck off to all the planets with really nice hot tubs. he and Sir Peepers (his loyal knight who cannot be convinced to leave his side) travel the galaxy with hater's sweet ride (i'm not too good at designing motorcycles yet. pending).

i haven't thought of new names/titles for wander and sylvia just yet (i cannot just call him Sitter Over Therer) but i do know what their deal is, and it's the main reason i made this au (i feel like if wander were a villain he would not in fact be a villain like lord hater or dominator because i think that kinda disregards wander's whole Shit, he'd be like screwball, and even then he'd have very strong convictions that he's doing the right thing): wander has a cult (a hivemind, kinda) and sylvia is his priest.

i think wander comes along this mushroom during a time in his life when everything seems to have been torn asunder, and instead of continuing his adventures and learning and growing as a person, the mushroom offers a solution that doesn't require much effort on his behalf. the mushroom links people together borg-style, makes them share a brain and a purpose. wander not only thinks it's super neat, but he's in such a poor state of mind when he finds it, he convinces himself it's the only way to make the galaxy a better place.

sylvia is the only person in his Ring of Friends who isn't hooked up to the mushroom, because she's actually wander's friend, and she's his ride or die. she does the things she does out of free will and dedication to her best friend, including preaching and fisticuffs.

^^^ here's some more of my initial concept art. originally the mushroom was gonna be a tree, but i had a vision of an upside down mushroom (or several, to take the place of watchdogs) scuttling around and by god is it easy to make that look like his hat.

the thing that really really pushes wander over the edge is the sheer boredom of it all. when he's connected to the mushroom, he's very little more than the brain they all share. he can't move around, and that KILLS him (see: the hole lotta nuthin). so when hater (name pending) comes along and refuses to join him and annoys him enough, he gets suuuuper stoked about having something to really DO for once.

anyway. this is what i've got for now. do you like it. you can be honest if you dont like it

[sysig]

Just a few favourites, only a couple, I swear (Patreon)

[cozmiczzz]

It’s officially the 27th in my timezone which means I can finally post my WOYgiftexchange art for @vibragarlic!

It’s not my best art and I wish I had time to create a background but I tried to stick close to the marching band theme and include a lot of character interaction. For Wander I chose the saxophone since he played one during one of the songs in my fair hatey. For Sylvia I almost picked the bass drum or trumpet since she had both in the deleted/end credits scene for the time bomb, but came up with the idea of her pulling a Mrs Puff in band geeks on Peepers for pulling a blaster on Wander (inspired by the fancy party), so it was a choice between having more character interaction or better instrument choice but the reference was too good to pass up. I really hope the intention came through in the art lol

For Peepers I was about to give him a trumpet then realised “oh yeah. no mouth.” then remembered he briefly played drums in the showstopper so I gave him one. And finally, I’ll admit the clarinet for Hater was completely arbitrary, Hater doesn’t play any instruments that are found in marching bands so I just kind of. picked one. And I like the idea of Dominator just having no interest in the band and wanting to go destroy planets or smth hence the triangle lol

Here’s what I was referencing with Sylvia and the cymbals:

I couldn’t find a place for the other @ so I’m putting it down here. @woyexchange2024

[thecartoonrambler]

Sylvia is a Fantastic character

Oh Sylvia!

Ever since i wrote about Wander and why hes such an important character, i wanted to write about Sylvia. But life got in the way a little..

Sylvia is such an amazing character.

Craig could have easily made her male, or made her a "typical female character" who presents in hyperfeminine ways and whatever (nothing wrong with femininity as long as it isnt forced or compulsory). But she's not, shes her own character, she's masculine, she's a bounty hunter, she's strong, she's powerful, she keeps her silly friend in check, she's serious, logical, diligent. Competitive. She's sassy, she doesn't let others boss her around. Its SO refreshing. Its SO refreshing to just HAVE a female character that FEELS like a character rather than simply "the Female".

Funny how a kids show about space can do a better job at that than even Marvel movies, huh?Its almost sad that when talking about her, the fact that she's female and that shes written like a proper character is actually refreshing. It should be the case for ALL shows, no exceptions.

Maybe she can serve as an example for new writers and show runners what to do RIGHT.

but enough about her gender!

I ADORE her dynamics between herself and other characters. I love the parallels between Her and Commander peepers in chasing around their emotional and impulsive friend/boss trying to keep them from doing silly things, yet also being complete opposites due to Her being the Bigger one in her dynamic with Wander, whereas peepers is the smaller one to Lord hater. I think its really cool!

I think episodes like "the Timebomb" or "the Family Reunion" are fantastic at deepening our understanding of Sylvia too.

She was brought up in a very rough and tough environment, feeling like she was never enough and had to compete with her older brothers at all times, fighting with feelings of not being good enough for her mother and how these feelings have caused her to be hyper competitive in instances of competition, where her feelings of little self worth are brough up if she's not "good enough", getting blinded by rage and loosing sense of what she should prioritise (which for a character that is typically so focused on logic and effectiveness is really striking. (I also ABSOLUTELY love the episode the Timebomb cause it shows how well Sylvia and Wander's friendship works?? Like the way he's able to calm her down and make sure she doesn't go crazy, similarly to how she's there for him from going crazy in episodes like "the Box") its just so sweet amd i love it smI love Sylvia so much.

When ppl say we want strong female characters WE MEAN SYLVIA!!! A WELL ROUNDED, AWESOME WELL WRITTEN CHARACTER THAT IS AN INSPIRATION!! THAT HAS FLAWS AND FEELINGS AND FEELS LIKE A REAL CHARACTER!!!! AHHH!!!! i love her :,3

ALSO! her design! I love it! I didn't mention it yet. But i really like that

1. She's larger than Wander!

2. Her snout is so cute idk 🥺

3. I love that she's not skinny?? Like shes got muscle she's got fat, she's got speed!!?

4. I like that she has dinosaur and horse elements idk i think its cool She's just cool Idk i love her