#HOWEVER I really like the idea of seeing these characters as kids bc. yknow. they never were in the human sense
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Garage gang as kids AU and Tron is also there
#tron#tron uprising#tronblr#zed#beck#bodhi#able#mara#art tag#zed was supposed to be wearing a poncho but idk if I conveyed that well. ah so be it#Iāve never been a ācharacter but theyāre a childā AU kinda guy bc it oftentimes seems to just exist for jokes and to infantilize characters#HOWEVER I really like the idea of seeing these characters as kids bc. yknow. they never were in the human sense#I like the idea of them having a regular childhood#Bodhi is their collective friend at school
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Metal Lords: movie review
summary of plot (no spoilers): a dorky awkward kid named Kevin is friends with this wannabe metalhead named Hunter. they're starting a band together but because of their flaws, their progress fumbles a bit. however, after finding out about their schools Battle of the Bands, they start working to prepare for the contest. as they improve their skills, they also improve their social lives and their own personalities
general thoughts: I GENUINELY LOVED THIS MOVIE SM????? god if youre into movies about a buncha flawed misfit friends then this is definitely a movie i'd recommend. the first few bits are a little awkward because you can kinda feel that the actors are still getting into their roles, but sticking it to the end is ABSOLUTELY worth it. all of the characters were so lovable and it genuinely filled that "i wanna see a movie about people just being people" hole in my heart. i still have no idea how to describe those kind of movies, but i feel like if yknow then youll know.
movies "Metal Lords" reminds me of: Theater Camp, I Used To Be Famous, School of Rock, Love Simon
SPOILERS FROM HERE ON OUT WEEWOOWEEWOO:
in depth but also scattered thoughts bc i cant organize for shit:
I LOVE THE SILLIES SM???? THEYRE ALL MY FAVORITE SILLIES???????? LITERALLY THE ONLY CHARACTER I HATED WAS SKIP (HUNTER'S BULLY), EVERYONE ELSE WAS SO SILLY????? ofc theyre all flawed and there were parts in the movie (especially with hunter) that made me disappointed to see, but the character progression was so satisfying and i loved seeing them all grow. it was genuinely so silly to me i love them all sm
EMILY AND KEVIN WERE SO CUTE TOGETHER???? AND I HONESTLY LOVED EMILY SM??????? JUST IN GENERAL??? LOVED KEVIN TOO BUT MAN I THINK EMILY IS MY FAVORITE. i loved all of her moments sm???? she has a lotta flaws but theyre honestly all reasonable and understandable to me so i kinda just forgive her for them anyways. i also just really love how sweet kevin is to her. like ofc he's not a perfect boyfriend and makes some slipups, but he genuinely really cares about her and i think it's so cute to watch.
more about me loving emily: I LOVED THE FACT THAT SHE DIDNT FORGIVE HUNTER RIGHT AWAY. LIKE IT WOULDVE BEEN COOL TO SEE, BUT THE PAYOFF AT THE BATTLE OF THE BANDS WAS EVEN BETTER. SPEAKING OF WHICH, SHE WAS SOOOOO FUCKING COOLIN THAT SCENE??????? SHE WAS COOL AS FUCK BEFORE THAT (u cannot tell me her cello playing wasnt the most badass thing out there) AND THEN THEFUCKING CCONNNCERRTTT??? IM CRYING I LOVE HER SOMUCCHHCH
i also really loved hunter. like there was a lotta scenes where i wanted somebody to punch him in the face, but he was honestly still lovable even throughout those scenes and he started improving a lot near the end, which was really nice to see. he obviously wasn't completely redeemable since there were still a lot of things he could've done better, but i feel like the fact that he didn't completely become perfect is what made me love his character a lot more. it felt really real to me. he isn't perfect, but he genuinely wants to make up for the shit he's pulled and he's absolutely trying to show it, and isn't that what living's all about anyways? either way, we love hunter in this household <3333
KEVIN'S TIME TO SHINE: that was a lie, i dont have much to say on kevin LMFAO. i absolutely loved seeing him on screen and i just love Jaeden Martell in general, but despite that, there's not really a lot for me to say about him. i just think he's neat. that's enough for me <3333 (emily shouldve been my girlfriend tho smh how dare he /j)
ALSO FUCKING CLAY???? HES SUCH A SILLY GUY. PROBABLY ONE OF MY FAVORITE BACKGROUND CHARACTERS FOR MOVIES IN GENERAL???? HES SUCH A SWEET LITTLE GUY AND I LOVED SEEING HIM SM. KINDA WISH I SAW MORE OF HIM BC OF IT. EITHER WAY, WE LOVE CLAY IN THIS HOUSEHOLD AS WELL <333333
i think thats all i have to say for this movie. either way, PLEAASEE check it out. i swear itll be worth it because the characters honestly all so adorable and so silly goofy goober. we love the silly metal lords here <33333
#metal lords#metal#movie review#school of rock#movies#uhhhh idk what else to put here#silly goofy sillies
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Hey, saw your Prsk Unit Shuffle AU and am very interested in seeing more.
In particular, I'm interested in hearing more about how the groups formed. It's always neat to see how these characters first meet and interact under different circumstances. And, as a little bonus, maybe what their "Untitled"/theme song is, because I feel like that's a very key part of a unit's identity that tends to be overlooked.
(Not sure if you're still interested in asks about this AU. If not, sorry for bugging you about it)
GASP HELLO I LOVE TALKING ABOUT MY UNIT SHUFFLE AU im so sorry this too forever to get u back on!! schoolwork is a pain and then i went SHOPPING (which takes forever :sob:)
okok so i haven't really thought about all the details of how they get together? so bear with me this is a rough draft lol
SSS: the idea at the core of this group is that its a family with different strengths coming together to make music. so tsukasa is the scriptwriter, saki is the lyricist, toya is the choreographer, and kanade is the composer! the group is headed by tsukasa, who's actually been putting on these shows for all of them since he was a kid. as he got older, he started taking stardom more seriously (leading into canon), but an incident in middle school ended up with the tenmas legally adopting toya, so that definitely shook things up for tsukasa (in a good way!). so i think that (+ l/n not reforming, which does happen in the SSS main story) allowed tsukasa and saki to consider banding their strengths together, since tsukasa loved putting on shows and saki loved seeing them, but she would also help put them on for toya (and later kanade, when she joins them not long after toya does). the two of them very quickly realize that they need more hands, and although recruiting kanade as composer is easy (bc 25ji never forms- dont ask why im still figuring that out lol) toya is a lot harder bc he's still active under BAD DOGS with akito. however, with akito picking up AWR around the same time (+ hatsune freaking miku appearing to toya), toya does join under their choreographer as for their untitled, their song is Wonderland and the Sheep's Song by Hachi, but I worked out their line distributions to this lovely KYO cover! you can see my color-coded lyrics for them here if you're interested :)
R/l: im gonna be 100% honest with you SSS and AWR are the only ones with any semblance of a plot rn LOL but here's the base idea around R/l: mizuki and rui both congregate on the kami school rooftop bc, yknow, loners (mizuki is never reached out to by kanamafu, so not 25ji on their part. tsukasa doesnt end up applying for phoenix so wxs doesn't have a chance of forming). at some point, i imagine they got talking about music, but never did anything concrete. but not long into the main story (probably the very start) an also joins them, her dream of surpassing rad weekend getting weaker as she struggles to find a partner (koha will be explained later) so she goes to hang with her friend on the rooftop. at some point, mizu and an both accidentally enter sekai, where they meet miku and len. those two tell them that there's still two others they need to find because they also made the sekai. mizu and an get.... maybe a little too excited over this. an takes this chance to invite her friend haruka over to kami (so she transfers) and join the group, but in their search for their fourth member they end up accidentally alienating rui (ironic). they fix that tho-- although HOW i dont know lol their untitled was one i went back and forth on (tbh only SSS and AWR i didnt lol), but i eventually decided on Untitled Hymn by shaito! their color-coded lyrics are here (i just realized you can barely tell where an is in lines but ehhh)
ATD: okay so. ATD is the group thats given the most gosh-darn trouble. ive revised their cast motivations like, TWICE now. but basically it goes like this: shizuku and mafuyu are both members of the archery club, with mafuyu trusting shizuku so much that her public mask slips a couple of times (against her will). shizuku's not dumb, but she doesn't say anything bc i think she understands that mafu has her secrets. after shizuku quits being an idol (on more of her own terms), she still wants to find a way to share the light she had before that seemed to reach mafu a few times. enter: accidental sekai trip! this trip both gives shizu the idea for an online group (which could sorta count as MMJ but i think the big distinction is they do more streamer/vtuber stuff and less purely idol stuff?? im still working on that) and lets her see mafu with her mask fully off. eventually, shizu drags nene into the business (nene never attends kami here, workin on that) bc shizu and mafu have no idea how streaming works and nene does, but nene likes hiding behind the camera but is still a part of the group bc who can say no to shizu? and hona joins at shizu's request bc they're both beautification members (and apparently hona+mafu are both honors students so i wonder if they have some overlap?? can you tell ive never attended public school lol) their untitled gave me SO MUCH TROUBLE. because ATD is supposed to be a weird mix of 25ji and mmj? but all of their songs get swiped by either R/l, AWR, or even SSS, so it was hard to find something that i thought could be specifically them. eventually, i finally decided on Common World Domination by PinocchioP! Their color-coded lyrics can be found here :)
MxC: oh boy this one's a doozy. so the idea here is like... there are underground music rings? which sounds wild but like if music is vaguely the lifeblood of this world i DONT CARE it can happen! i don't wanna make it life-threatening tho so its more like... you get blacklisted from everything. which for shiho--who got sucked into this world in an attempt to find bandmates--is VERY BAD. but shiho's given a little bit to find a band before their first performance, but with l/n definitely gone their separate ways (and she never wanted to involve them in the first place) she's kinda stuck. enter: airi and ena! both of them had been watching the music battles, unsatisfied with their current lives (airi having just quit idol/tv work, ena just frustrated over her art), but airi knows shiho thru miya, and when she heard about shiho's impending doom, she resolved herself to very quickly learn guitar and join her group, roping ena (who has a little bit of drum experience from akito and mom) into it as well. meanwhile, while all of this is going on, kohane (being the sweet soul she is) has been trailing shiho out of concern, but then is entirely horrified at the underground battles bc shes still pre-canon meek. but she really wants to help shiho, so she agrees to try and learn keyboard. after clearing the first battle, shiho and her group are safe--for now. they'll have to clear a lot more battles if they want to escape the underground their untitled is Hello Builder by UtsuP since i wanted them to have harsher rock songs than l/n (bordering on metal-ish)! color-coded lyrics here :)
AWR: funny story--all of the above units were made in the order listed! so i got to AWR and... i have ichika, minori, emu, and akito. and im like "NONE OF THESE PEOPLE HAVE ANYTHING IN COMMON". and then i went. "WAIT. THATS IT!" so here's how AWR goes: ichika still tries to reform l/n, but fails; minori is still trying to become an idol; and emu is still trying to revive the wonder stage. all three of them, all attending miya ofc, end up bonding over this and they start thinking. is there a way to satisfy all three of their dreams (band, idol, and show) at once? and at FIRST the answer is "no lol" so they go exploring. and somehow someway (workin on that) word finds out about this and some guy on vivid street dares akito to try and fix em into shape in a week. akito--being akito--accepts quite hotheadedly, then quickly realizes that maybe this wasnt a good idea?? because EVERYONE has a different music taste and its almost impossible to keep up with them all!!! but eventually they do figure it all out, and by the end none of them wanted to split apart or anything. AWR is i think the group that has the least amount of direction which might be on purpose. i think (again im rambling rn so) part of their story is figuring out what their direction is going to be! their untitled is Lip Sync by DECO*27, written as a part of holo*27 (hi no im not rlly into vtubers i just like their music) but i count it bc its written by a voca producer and this would not be the first time a non-vocaloid sung a unit song (cough cough mafumafu and tuyu). you CAN find my color-coded lyrics here.... but i did the translations. which means they're pretty much 98% google translated then bonked around to make sense. i dont know japanese please dont sue me
i hope you enjoy my indepth explanation!!! im always happy to talk about these guys :D
#zero thoughts#unit shuffle au#zero shuffle sss#zero shuffle r/l#zero shuffle atd#zero shuffle mxc#zero shuffle awr#project sekai#proseka#pjsk#prsk
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i demand to know more of your oc's (also im trying to catch up on your space au fic its been so long since i last read it)
OH MY GOD IT DIDNT GET EATEN BY TUMBLR
Anonā¢ļø Iām using your ask as like a sticky note of oc ideas specifically Tundra dude thereās SO much Iām so sorry I got into the hyper focus zone
Tundraās name is actually Alejandra Citlali Osorio-Cruz and through the series sheās just about to turn 16 in season 1 and roughly 19-20 by Season 5 (give or take how the fuck you think time works in 2012 bc I think it takes place over 3-4 years season 5 included)
Tundra came about as a nickname when she was a kid and got super hyper-fixated on professional wrestling and like. She made an entire persona and lore. Alec started using her wrestling name as a silly nickname and it stuck.
Yes I did come up with a stupid cute reason behind the name Tundra bc I can not handle the fact I chose such a BAD oc name for a LION but like I canāt change it NOW!! I MADE HER IN LIKE 2015 SHES TOO OLD TO CHANGE IT
Xever did just think for the longest time Tundra WAS her name. He also just assumed that Alec and Chris adopted a child for fun.
Her bio parents Ixchel and Alejandro were really good friends of Alec and Chris for like. Well over a decade. Ixchel and Alec especially. Ixchel was an actress (like I would say their worlds equivalent of Selma Hayek) and Alejandro worked in music production.
They didnāt have a ton of family they kept in contact with, so Alec and Chris were named Alejandraās legal guardians if anything happened to them. They sadly died in a plane crash when Tundra was around 1.
This feels like SOOOO edgy and silly to me now but like I literally canāt see Alec and Chris adopting a kid any other way than the guilt of losing their friends pushing them to do it. WHICH SOUNDS BAD. AND LIKE IT IS. However they still love and raise Alejandra as their own, if anything Chris is like. Somewhat distant bc he still has his career but Alecās like āfuck yeah I get to raise a kid againā and kinda slips from the spotlight. Which is fine by them , theyāre like 600 years old they can just have messy fun in the public eye another time
Tundra goes fucking THROUGH IT emotionally through the series. Like goes from would do anything for Chris and Alec (especially Chris who. Again. Was distant and she desperately wanted his approval) to the point where like. Sheās yknow. Mutated, to growing resentful of them when Hachi enters the picture (especially when she has to take care of him) to like. Low key betraying the foot and joining the mutanimals in season 3. And then having to deal w Chris being resurrected temporarily in season 5 after a really chill and happy 2 years with her mom and little brother like itās a LOT.
In season 1 sheās very much a āmean girlā stereotype and slowly evolves into Cool And Gay (but still a little better than you)(she. She gets that from her upbringing.)
Tundra and Karai are seen as like a duo/bffs up until season 2 after the whole āIām not shredders daughterā thing happens. They grow distant (obviously) until season 4.
So like Alec and Chris are NOT the best parents and like. They did totally just let Tundra take Hachi to live w her and the Mutanimals in season 4. Sheād already been in space w him for 6 months and the poor kid really didnāt want to go live in the woods. I have such a specific scene in mind for this and I want to write it out so bad. Anyway tundra basically becomes a teen mom for a little bit. Eldest daughters am I right? *plays class of 2013 by mitski*
Tundra has a modified mini van which she does haul all of her friends who can fit in. Apologies to leatherhead and slash . No she doesnāt have a license
She also has a bike. These two vehicles she did canonically find on the side of the highway and she convinced Donnie and Casey to help her fix them
Tundras in a punk (? Maybe more Pop punk ) band called The Muties (my other characters Jack and Spinstra are in it. also Mondo. Sometimes Raph fills in on drums if Spinstra canāt make it). Tundra and Jack switch off on vocals, sheās usually on bass. They started up in the down time between seasons 4 and 5. They play in Moiraās Menagerie (a mutants only bar and hall) every week on Fridays. Alec comes to nearly all of their shows and also they bring Hachi sometimes when they practice and heāll play his DS.
Alec will also force their friends (I.e. Apep, Anton, Ivan and Xever) to come watch Tundra w the promise of drinks and she thinks itās embarrassing every fucking time bc theyāre SO LOUD and OBVIOUS and god she could just DIE (but also. Having the support makes her happy)
Alec WILL slam back 3 tequila shots and go on about how talented their daughter is.
Chris got to see her play once. And it was when he was resurrected. And Tundra, frankly, was not thrilled. Another one I wanna write
#thanks for reading all that I love Alejandra and she deserves the world#oc tag#Iām a little embarrassed by how much I wrote but Iāve been in a big tundra mood lately
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Uma Headcanons
- My fabulous queen
- There will be no Uma slander here she is absolutely one of my favourite characters and she was just doing the best she could under the circumstances OK
- Like at least she was consistent with her goals, Mal I love you but you were one hot flighty mess goddamm
- You know what you get when you sign up with Uma. Stability
- Also China Anne McClain was perfect casting for this bc her voice is just chefs kiss
On The Isle
- I really don't think Mal's Shrimpy taunt got to Uma like she thought it did. Uma seems to be over that quite well in the second film (yknow for someone who hasn't read the books). I mean obviously there's some resentment but I think it's less over the taunt itself and more over the blow to her reputation if that makes sense
- That being said, Uma does not take ANYONE'S shit. That much is apparent
- Uma wouldn't rely on her parents name for power like Mal and others did too. Ursula is proven to not give a damn about what Uma does so while it definitely gives her some freedom to do nice things, I can also see it causing some major issues while Uma was still a child.
- Ursula's abuse would probably mostly be neglect. When she could be bothered to get physical with Uma there'd obviously be strangulation and crushing because tentacles but overall I feel like she gets away with a lot more
- I like the idea of the Lost Revenge, while clearly being their ship and where Uma, Harry, Gil and the crew live, being a sort of sanctuary for kids escaping certain death
- Like if you're certain you're going to die or get violated or beaten they'll let you aboard and give you protection and shelter for as long as you need. And I absolutely headcanon that the Core 4 have had to take them up on that offer of protection and shelter at least once apiece. And it kills them to admit it
- Uma's only request for the people she offers sanctuary to is that they help with ship maintenence and use their skills after they go home to offer assistance when needed
- It may not be evil, but she's gained crew members from their sanctuary program and now each of the Core 4 owes her a favour so she's not exactly going to stop
- Uma guarantees her crew a meal a day because a fed crew is a happy crew. She can't guarantee more than that, because Ursula won't let her give away a tonne of free food obviously, but she tries to make sure at least Gil and Harry manage to get two solid meals in a day to keep them strong (and well fed because hungry boys are distracted boys and also she's weak for them)
- MUM FRIEND MUM FRIEND MUM FRIEND
- She is always checking to see if her crew needs something, requires assistance, has seen anyone who could be a good fit for the crew, has blackmail material to assist the crew etc etc
- I also like to headcanon that Uma doesn't pretend to not care about her crew. She may not advertise the fact that she does, but she won't deny it.
- The issue is that, if you openly state that you care for someone on the Isle, it is viewed as a sign of weakness. Uma is a pirate captain, and sea witch. Uma is not weak.
- However, whenever someone new is brought into the crew, she takes them to her quarters. There, she explains that the crew is basically family. You may not like each other, you may fall out with each other, but at the end of the day you stick together. We fight together, we party together, we eat, sleep, breathe together. She explains that they must always portray a united front.
- She has a system where if she makes a decision in the heat of the moment, it is followed no questions asked because she has evaluated the situation and made the best call. However, for general decisions, it is 100% a democracy. The crew will vote. Uma will act accordingly.
- She will never admit it aloud, but she is very thankful that she managed to earn the respect and loyalty of her crew. Not many people on the Isle can say that their gang members are there by choice. Uma is one of them
- Speaking of her crew, I really like to imagine that very few of them are born to major villains
- Everyone would be fighting over them to get those names in a gang because their parents could offer some form of protection or at least a backup plan
- No, I like to believe that Uma took in anyone. Orphans, children of sidekicks, small waifs no one thought would ever be strong enough to hold their own. I like the idea that Uma saw that they had potential, and took them on. Offered her protection, offered a guaranteed meal a day, offered a safe place to sleep - and that the stability helped these underdogs to thrive and become highly sought after members but they stick with Uma because goddammit she showed them how to live when no one else would.
- In my head Uma is basically a humanitarian but she'd never admit it.
- Again the idea of Uma and Harry somehow becoming the default mum and dad figures for the Isle kids just makes me laugh because absolutely no one expects it like it just happens
- Will fight anyone at anytime. She has squared off against Gaston before. And won. She's mental and everyone knows it.
- Asks Harry to teach her sea shanties for one reason and one reason only
- And that reason is so that they can hoist up the gangplank and sing them at absurb hours in the morning to piss off Hook's crew
- Harriet's crew sometimes joins in
- She usually only does it after Harry receives a nasty beating because Uma is nothing if not petty
- "HEAVE UP HAUL AND HEAVE AWAY, WAY HAY ROLL AND GO, THE ANCHORS ON BOARD AND THE CABLES ARE STORED AND WE'RE ROLLICKING, RANDY DANDY-O"
- "SHUT THE HELL UP YOU RAT BASTARD SCUNNERS, WHEN I GET ON THERE I'LL HOOK YOU ALL"
- Slightly off topic but the shanties I imagine them singing are ones like these (all of these I heard from a group called The Longest Johns if you want to check them out): Randy Dandy-O, Santiana, The Drunken Sailor, Lowlands and Leave Her Johnny.
- I actually like to believe that her transformation magic isn't blocked by the barrier because its related to her physical form as opposed to directing it to do something. She just chose to be in human form more often because its more convenient.
Off The Isle
- Uma seems to adjust quite well at first, but don't let her fool you. She is just as confused as Harry and Gil, she's just better at hiding it.
- Luckily she and the others abide by the Pirate Code, so they don't really get in too much trouble. In fact, Uma is quite proud that her crew blends in quite easily from the getgo.
- However she did throw one massive pirate hissy-fit over was very upset with not being allowed to share a room with Harry and Gil because goddammit those are her boys
- It took 3 weeks of Uma, Harry and Gil sleeping in a tree outside before Fairy Godmother gave in and gave them a room to share altogether (with some spells to prevent sexual misconduct)
- After that Uma was fine. In fact, she quickly became a favourite VK for most people because she didn't really stick out all that much
- Also, like Harry, Uma tended to attract small children who wanted to talk and play with her and its really hard to be scared of someone when there's a gaggle of 7 year old following them around
- The first thing she learned to do in Auradon was to heal with water so that if anything happened she could reverse the damage
- The second thing she learned to do, believe it or not, was knit
- Yes it was because of Harry and Mrs Potts meetups
- Uma joined the knitting club that Mrs Potts and all the other old ladies had because goddammit it was kinda fun
- Mal tried to mock her for it and Uma stabbed her with her knitting needles with a sweet smile the entire time
- Mal was then presented with the most godawful purple and green sweater. She wears it every Christmas. Out of spite.
- Uma definitely has a talent for knitting and crocheting. And she definitely doesn't knit hats and gloves and other accessories for Auradon hospital to give to premature babies
- She also definitely doesn't knit anything to put in the Isle of the Lost donation boxes, if you saw her there you were tripping on acid bro
- Also this is very random but I really feel like Uma would have a slight obsession with cinnamon
- And for once its not because Harry seems to really struggle saying that word she genuinely loves the flavour
- Although hearing Harry say simanim everytime makes her straight up cackle
- Speaking of cackles good lord this girl does have one hell of a cackle
- Like if she's laughing softly or giggling it sounds very normal but if something hilarious happens the floodgates just open and good LORD
- Tis a proper cackle
- Also she adopts a cat and calls her Captain because I said so.
- Listen she found her outside the school wet and miserable and homeless OK what else was she supposed to do
- Also, Harry's dog Teddy loves Captain. Captain doesn't mind Teddy but sometimes paps him just because.
- She is always checking up on her crew members, just to make sure they're doing OK in Auradon because it is a difference from their previous life
- Is also basically a walking medication timer for Harry and is constantly leaving her classes to make sure the forgetful dumbass actually takes his medicine
- Teachers hate her because even though she's on top of everything if one of her crew bursts in saying they need her (from things as minor as one of the kids scraped their knee to things as important as Harry forgetting his medication and getting lost in his head) she's out of her seat and heading to help
- Uma has had to explain her actions to Fairy Godmother several times and will refuse to accept that other people can help her crew
- "I am their captain and they are my priority. They have always been my priority, and will always remain my priority. That's not going to change. And if you want that to change then you'll have to expel me."
General Headcanons
- I really feel like Uma would be a fiction lover. Like she loves the Percy Jackson books, and can sometimes be found with a bunch of kids just reading to them. Harry will often join in because he is an amazing storyteller and sometimes she tells him to because if her reputation is taking a blow so shall his
- I also feel like she and Harry end up babysitting together a lot. Like the little kids love them and they're both so good with children that eventually they just become a default. Uma doesn't really mind
- Uma is also definitely a teacher by nature. She can always be found with her crew, teaching Harry how to count, teaching Gil how to read... She picks things up so easily and it genuinely pleases her to see that she's helping the people she's claimed.
- Also Uma is incredibly territorial. Even in Auradon she has no trouble staking her claims on her people, ESPECIALLY her boys. Some of these princesses can get real handsy with a hot lad, and when Harry and Gil are uncomfortable, Uma will step in with a malicious grin that doesn't reach her eyes.
- Uma basically adopts people into her friend group. There is no point where you state 'we're friends now'. If you have no one - you don't. You're crew now. Join the table and make sure you get a balanced meal otherwise Uma is grabbing your food for you in the future. Also you're learning sea shanties whether you like it or not.
#descendants headcanons#uma daughter of ursula#uma descendants#Uma headcanons#harry hook descendants#harry hook#gil descendants#gil son of gaston#sea three#Sea Three descendants#Other descendants characters#tw abuse
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What do you think are the good and bad aspects of each season of ST?
ok 1. thank u for this question omg and 2. this answer may or may not be a mess, but either way itās long (almost 7k words lmao) bc iām insane, which is why itās under a cut. itās still by no means an exhaustive list but these are the things that just kinda came to mind.
also i realize you askedĀ āgood and badā and i wrote this whole post asĀ āstrengths and weaknessesā which um. is not Exactly what you asked. but close enough <3 i also ended up including a lot of au ideas ksjdckmn bc like i personally hate when people say a certain plot or whatever was bad without suggesting anything that could have improved it yknow so whenever possible i tried to provide Some idea for fixing the issues i had with the show!!
season 1
strengths (this is probably gonna be the longest section but thatās because a lot of these strengths also apply to s2/s3 by default)
nostalgia and authenticity
this oneās pretty simple, but i think that season one did a good job of blending classic eighties media homages (such as the many many e.t./el parallels) with explicit pop culture references (such as mikeās yoda impression, mentions of the x-men, etc) to create a show thatās essentially dripping in early eighties nostalgia without it feeling too forced. before st, i think the most popular depiction of the eighties in mainstream media was that overly exaggerated neon scrunchie aesthetic from the mid to late eighties, and it was usually done in a comedic sense first and foremost. st took a different approach, instead focusing on the early eighties, a time thatās often ignored in favor of going either Full Seventies or Full Eighties, and i think that this choice likely resonated with adults who lived through the eighties and hadnāt yet seen something that felt quite so accurate to their own adolescence. a lot of young people who watched st were totally unfamiliar with this period of time, unfamiliar with books/movies like āstand by meā that st borrows from heavily, and i think st lent more seriousness to the eighties than most young people had experienced so far, and this was refreshing and interesting!
the use of dnd in the show is also quite genius in a way iām not sure i can articulate?? it isnāt something Everyone would have played at the time, but itās something that existed within a different context back in the eighties than it does today, and it really lent a sort of authenticity to the naming of the showās sci-fi elements. like, of course these kids would name parallel dimensions and monsters and superpowers after these similar things in their favorite game! it just feels so real and it grounds st in our reality moreso than you might expect from the typical sci-fi or horror universe.
utilization of existing tropes
almost every single character in st clearly originates from some popular trope. the plot itself is riddled with classic eighties movie tropes. almost every single element of stranger things can be clearly traced back to some iconic eighties film or just to, like, overused horror/sci-fi/mystery/coming-of-age movie tropes in general. this might sound like a bad thing, but it really works in stās favor! starting off with familiar tropes gives st the ability to easily create a lot of complexity and make a big impact by selectively deviating from those familiar, comfortable tropes!! while elās whole plot, hopperās character, etc, are all examples of this in action, i think the steve/nancy/jonathan plot is the greatest example. even from the start, the fact that good girl barb dies while nancy is off having sex with her asshole boyfriend is an incredibly thorough inversion of the most well-known horror movie trope in the book. how often do girls in horror movies have sex for the first time, walk home alone in the dark of night, and live to tell the tale? nancy and jonathanās dynamic at first glance is a sort of classicĀ āgood girl meets boy from the wrong side of the tracks, discovers heās actually got a heart of goldā thing, but instead of following this well-trodden path, st diverged. nancy is brash, impulsive, and at times downright insensitive. jonathan is angry, bitter, and actually a bit of a creep at first. while they have the capacity to emotionally connect and support one another, they can also bring out each otherās darker side, which is not what weāve come to expect from that initial tropey dynamic.
in addition, steve, the popular rich asshole boyfriend, is actually... a human being! unlike the cartoonishly evil jocks that weāve come to expect (especially from eighties movies), steve has complexity. despite his initial immaturity and selfishness, heās also kind to barb, he backs off when nancy says no, heās gentle and sweet when they sleep together, his first big Dick Move of the season is in defense of nancy, he realizes the error of his ways after the fight and does what he can to fix it, heās worried about nancy when he sees that sheās hurt at jonathanās house, and to top it all off, he ends up saving both nancy and jonathanās lives when he could have just walked away, and the three of them all work together to fight the demogorgon. like... steve began as the most stereotypical character of all time, and by the end of the season, he had one of the most compelling and unique arcs among the whole cast!
finally, at the very end of the season, instead of dumping steve for jonathan as expected, nancy ends up getting back together with steve, and theyāre both on friendly terms with jonathan. i realize that i just kinda. summarized s1. but my POINT is that i donāt think the dynamics between the monster hunting trio would be nearly as fun and interesting had the characters of nancy, steve, and jonathan not been set up to follow certain paths that we already had charted in our own heads. like, within the first couple episodes of s1, itās pretty obvious that nancy and steve are gonna break up, nancy will get with jonathan, and steve will either die or go full evil or just never be seen again. like, duh! youāve seen this story a million times! you know thatās how itās gonna go! so, when the story DOESNāT go that way, the impact of each characterās arc and the relationship dynamics become stronger due to their unexpected complexity and authenticity.Ā
distinct plotlines separated by age group
this oneās rather obvious, but the way that the adults in s1 were essentially in a conspiracy thriller while the teens were in a horror flick and the kids were in a sci fi power-of-friendship story and all three converged at the end... wow. brilliant showstopping etc. not only was it just really well done and unique, it also gave stranger things near-universal appeal. like, thereās genuinely something for pretty much everyone in season one!
casting
obviously this applies to every season sorta by default, but when i think about what made season one So successful, i always think about the cast, and not just winona ryder. yes, sheās absolutely amazing in the show and itās very doubtful that st would be as big as it is today without her name being attached to it from the start!! however, i think the greatest determining factor in stās success is the casting of the kids, particularly millie bobby brown. like... el is just absolutely incredible. sheās amazing. this has all been said many times before so i wonāt harp on it, but millie and the other kids are all So talented and charismatic and i think their casting has been instrumental to the showās success.
strong visuals
the way that multicolored christmas lights which have been around for decades are now kinda like. a Stranger Things thing. jesus christ. those lights are probably the biggest stroke of stylistic genius on the show.
atmosphere and setting
this is probably like. the least important one here for me sdjncdsc because i think s2 and s3 both had like Even Better atmospheres and shit but s1 was good too and it laid the groundwork!! i know a lot of people would have preferred st be set somewhere more Spooky with lots of fog or giant forests or whatnot, and while i do enjoy thinking about alternate st settings and how they might alter the vibe, i think hawkins indiana was a good choice. as the duffers have said, placing stranger things in a fictional town allows them more flexibility than if theyād gone with their original plan of using montauk, new york. besides that, i think the plainness and like... flatness... of small-town indiana just Works. like, the fact that hawkins is never really scary on the surface is a big part of the horror in the labās actions and their impact. hawkins isnāt somewhere that people just disappear all the time. it isnāt somewhere known for strange occurrences (prior to s1, that is). it isnāt somewhere shrouded in mist and secrecy. hawkins on its surface seems like the sort of place with no secrets and nothing to fear, and thatās the point! the lab is out in the open! itās right there! everything is so close to the surface, yet so far out of the public eye, and i think that really works.
the byers familyās whole deal (specifically the joyce/jonathan dynamic)
this is going here bc i miss it so bad in s2 and s3. iām not one of those people who believe The Byers Are The Whole Point of the show, because st is and always has been an ensemble, and el, hopper, and the wheelers are just as instrumental to the plot as the byers, but ANYWAY, i do think the byers were one of the most interesting aspects of s1. joyceās difficulties with supporting her sons as a poor and (implied mentally ill) single mother, jonathanās stress as a result of having to earn money, care for his brother, and keep the house in order when his mother is unable to do so, and the resulting tension between them when willās disappearance and supposedĀ ādeathā brings the situation to a tipping point? holy shit! itās so good! that argument after they see willās ābodyā is just incredible and gut-wrenching. their relationship feels so real and messy and i think itās just... good. also winona ryder REALLY acted her heart out and she carried a lot of s1 which i think people often forget to mention so iām saying it here.
weaknesses
pacing/timing
ok so pacing is probably going to go in each seasonās weaknesses, to be honest, because i think they all had a blend of some good and some bad pacing. good pacing is invisible pacing, though, so i probably wonāt be putting it in any of the strengths sections and will only be focusing on it in the weaknesses. iām also probably not going to talk about weird day/night cycle things, just because i donāt want to get nitpicky on timelines because that would require going back and rewatching things to double check timing which i donāt wanna do at the moment lmao. anyway, when i think of bad pacing in season one, i primarily think of two things: nancyās little trip into the upside down and subsequent sleepover with jonathan, and the sort of staggered nature of the climax in the final episode. the latter is simple so iāll explain it first: while i understand that each groupās respective climax is like part of a chain reaction and thatās why each big moment happens separately and at different times, i think that st is strongest when the whole group is together, and i think that makes the stakes feel higher too, so iām not In Love with the way s1 separated everyone and gave each group their own climax.Ā
okay, now on to the nancy/upside down thing! idk if iāve ever talked about it before, but i think the worst decision made in s1 by far is the inclusion of nancyās brief trip into the upside down, wherein she dives headfirst into another dimension with absolutely no backup, watches the demogorgon chow down, freaks out and runs around for a minute, and then leaves. like... what the fuck? even putting aside what an idiotic decision this was (because i do think nancyās tendency to rush into things headfirst is an intentional and consistent character trait), it just kind of destroys any remaining suspense surrounding the demogorgon and the upside down, and it accomplishes basically nothing besides scaring nancy enough to have jonathan sleep over, which is lame. i will break it down.
like, first of all, nancy just getting to waltz in and out of the upside down and get a good, long look at the demogorgon makes the entire thing far less mysterious, and by extension far less scary. like... before this scene, we the audience havenāt got a good look at the demogorgon. weāve seen its silhouette briefly and weāve seen a blurry picture of it, but nothing more, and i think that is far more effective at building fear than this jaunt nancy goes on which gives us a full view of the thing and makes it into less of a horrifying nightmare and into more of a humanoid animal. like, maybe this is just me, but i found the demogorgon far less intimidating after that scene than before. it also lets nancy and jonathan know For Sure that theyāre right without providing any crucial information that they need to fight the demogorgon (aka itās unnecessary to the plot), which removes a very compelling story element (the faith nancy and jonathan need to have in order to keep going against a vague and poorly understood enemy, the doubt they might have about each other and their own sanity, the possibility that they might be wrong, the trust they need to have in each other) a bit earlier in the plot than i believe is ideal. at the end of episode 5, nancy goes into the upside down and jonathan doesnāt know where she is and itās intense!!! youāre thinking like, oh fuck, not only is nancy missing and fighting for her life now too, jonathan might be implicated in her disappearance!! some people already think heās the one who killed will and people know that he took creepy pictures of barb and nancy before they both disappeared, maybe this is gonna cause some serious problems for him!! maybe nancy will find will in the upside down and sheāll help him survive!! fuck, maybe sheāll actually die!! this is huge!! and then episode 6 starts and theyāre immediately like oh nevermind jonathan found the tree and got nancy out and sheās fine. my point with all of this is that nancy entering the upside down could have done A Lot in the grand scheme of the plot, but all it did was just... get jonathan to sleep over so he and nancy could have some awkward romance moments and steve could see them together and pick a fight. which could have honestly happened at Any point while nancy and jonathan were working together to hunt down the demogorgon, without ruining the demogorgonās and the upside downās mystique. so yeah <3
weird behavior and dumbass decisions that make no sense (aka the whole camera thing)
gonna go off about the teen plot again sorry but: why was nancy so unbothered and quick to forgive jonathan for taking those pictures? girl what the fuck are you doing? why wasnāt that a bigger deal? why was jonathanās motivation for doing it so weak and why did they just kind of forget about the whole thing? why did nancy TRACK HIM DOWN AT THE FUNERAL HOME while he was PICKING OUT HIS BABY BROTHERāS CASKET to be like hey can you tell me whatās in this creepshot you took? itās insane. itās so insane. i mean i think the funeral home thing is hilarious and i donāt mind it being in the show necessarily but like my point here is that i think a lot of character decisions in s1 just kind of.. happened because they Needed to happen for the plot. like, they wrote this plot that required jonathan to be secretly taking pictures of the party and required him and nancy to work together after seeing something odd in the pictures, but they didnāt like... really consider what that event would mean for their characterization and relationship. the whole thing was sort of just dropped with minimal discussion and i think it did both nancy and jonathanās characters a disservice and was really mishandled.
lighting and saturation/color grading
i am literally begging horror/sci-fi shows to let me see shit. i GET IT okay i understand that when youāre doing cgi effects it helps to keep the lights down and iām not mad at any of the lighting in the demogorgon/upside down scenes!! iām really not i think the demogorgon scenes in s1 all look sick!! but like... dude. the colors. where are they. why does everyone look like a vampire. i know blah blah this was probably an intentional stylistic choice intended to mimic film at the time blah blah but dude a lot of old movies are very colorful!! please just let people have color in their faces so everyone doesnāt look like a sheet of paper!!! also iām white and not a professional lighting designer so yknow grain of salt but i think lucas was kinda poorly served by the lighting sometimes in s1. not Hugely so, not to the degree that iāve seen poc be poorly served by lighting in other shows, but there were some times where it felt kinda like the lighting setup was just not designed with darker skin in mind.Ā
horror
i just personally donāt find s1 very scary like... ever. i donāt think they were really Trying to be extremely scary yknow so iām not counting this as a big deal, but i do think that each season has improved on the horror aspects. i think s1ā²s horror lies more in the mystery and the unknown than in whatās seen onscreen, and as iāve said already, i think s1 kind of fumbled that suspense ball.
season 2
strengths
the possession plot
iāll warn u rn this whole s2 strengths section is probably gonna be really short bc idk like. how much there is to really say i feel like itās all so self-explanatory skjncmn. anyway yeah the possession plot!! eerie as fuck, and noah OWNED. so did winona tbh and finn and sean etc but like. noah. wow! i think the possession plot helped the show maintain a good amount of tension and suspense throughout the season, and a lot of scenes with possessed!will are flatout disturbing to watch. in a good way. i think the mindflayer and willās possession were far more genuinely frightening than s1ā²s demogorgon, and it provided a new layer of depth and intrigue to the antagonist besides justĀ ābad monster want eat people.ā
tone and aesthetics
halloween season... literally halloween season. halloween season. that is all.
actually i will elaborate a bit and just say that i think s2 did a good job of having the sort of foreboding vibe that s1 was often going for, but without the annoying darkness and desaturation. so points for that.
also st2 is like one of the best Autumn pieces of media ever like it just. like steve and dustin on those train tracks with the fallen leaves all around them.... god. god the vibes are unparalleled. all of the halloween stuff also really contributes to the nostalgia st runs on yknow it makes you think about childhood and trick-or-treating and you kind of get transported like damn... i remember going to the rich neighborhoods to score the good candy..... idk i just think the whole thing is incredibly effective.Ā
ābabysitterā steve
by sending nancy and jonathan off together, the show created a problem: what to do with steve? this problem pushed them to create the unconventional and unexpected duo of steve and dustin, and the world is so much brighter for it. seriously though we all know steve and dustin are great i donāt need to argue that point. all iāll add is that i think allowing steve to grow in this way, serving as a mentor figure and becoming genuine friends with someone so unexpected, really took the originality of his character to the next level. no longer content just to defy his archetype, in s2 steve begins branching out in ways that never would have been considered in s1, creating an incredibly complex and interesting person from the sort of character that most shows would have simply written out or killed off for convenienceās sake. and it works and steve and dustin are such a joy to watch and i love them. <3
the lucas/max plot
so first of all max mayfield is the most perfect baby girl on godās green earth and idk what i would do without her but anyway. i think lumax is the best romantic relationship in the show and not just because theyāre the only ones with like an age-appropriate approach to the whole thing. itās also because their relationship accomplishes more than just putting the two of them in a relationship!! lucas and max spending time together motivates billy to do his evil shit, providing more conflict in the narrative, and it also helps establish max as part of the group in a relatively natural way while giving both her and lucas a great subplot. lucas (and dustin) has a crush on the new girl, they start spending some time together, and lucas ends up needing to decide whether heāll keep the secret of the upside down and lose her, or risk both of their lives by telling her the truth. thatās a pretty big, character-defining decision that he gets to make!! max has to choose whether to trust this boy she barely knows and endanger herself, or to walk away and stay safe, yet another great character-defining choice that also contributes to the sense we get as an audience of max as somebody whoās incredibly lonely and desperate for love and connection. this post is way too long already and i have a ton more to say so iāll stop now but yeah i think lumax really Works in the show without ever distracting or detracting from the overall plot and narrative in the way that some other ships (coughjancycough) often do.
balance between the normal and abnormal
s2 i think did a pretty solid job of meldingĀ daily life with more fantastical sci-fi horror elements. i enjoyed seeing so much of the kids at school in the first few episodes!! you really get a strong sense of where theyāre at in life, what their daily lives are like, and you get a sort of gradual shift into madness that makes everything feel more grounded than i think it would if they had just leapt straight into the horror shit, yknow?Ā
the el and hopper dynamic
go back and rewatch s2 and tell me thatās not one of the most moving portrayals of parenthood and trauma and growing up that youāve ever seen. you canāt. or well you can but i wonāt listen. i really canāt imagine stranger things without el and hopperās relationship, and itās my absolute favorite part of s2. their whole dynamic is so beautiful and complex, and gives them each amazing personal arcs in addition! the black hole scene is literally one of the showās greatest moments of all time. any given scene between the two of them in s2 is just guaranteed to be heartwarming as well as heartbreaking, and i think that makes for an incredible show.
weaknesses
flashbacks
okay this applies to Every season they All have too many flashbacks but in s2 specifically... please stop showing me shit from season one. i watched it. i know what happened. you donāt need to spoon feed everything to me!! flashbacks can be a really helpful way of delivering information to an audience, but st has a bad habit of not only being kinda demeaning in how often they flash back to shit that the audience already knows, but they also have a bad habit of using flashbacks almost as a crutch to avoid having to deliver information subtly and naturally.Ā
you know i gotta say it... the lost sister
this is so sad. the lost sister really is like a great concept for an st episode, and iām not mad about the idea of st taking a break from the normal action to focus on one story for a full episode, but the execution of it was just dreadful. kali and her crew feel very over-the-top and stereotypical, and its placement in the season totally kills the tension and excitement that was built inĀ āthe spy.āĀ
i think the lost sister honestly could have gone over far better, even with the stereotypical fake-feeling gang kali has, if they had just swapped it withĀ āthe spyā like... ok, the end of episode five has el setting off to find kali and will collapsing on the ground seizing. right? imagine if, instead of immediately following will to the lab, weād followed el. we donāt know whatās happening with will, but itās a very simple cliffhanger that leaves us on edge without making us feel cheated by the show cutting away. we follow el on her little journey, everything happens much the same as canon, and then at the end, el sees hopper in scrubs. she sees mike, screaming, sees that theyāre both in danger. holy shit!!! what the fuck!!! whatās happened since we left will seizing on the ground??? we feel elās fear and confusion. she decides to go home. and then... boom. āthe lost sisterā is over. now, we rewind, right back to will seizing on the ground, and āthe spyā commences. we learn how they got into the danger that el saw in the end ofĀ āthe lost sister,ā and we sit on the edge of our seats all through āthe spyā and āthe mind flayer,ā KNOWING that el is on her way back to save them but not knowing when sheāll arrive!! idk i donāt think that would have necessarily saved lost sister but i think it may have alleviated some of the issues that i and many others have with it, timing-wise.
the nancy/jonathan sidequest
once again, the idea of nancy going off on her own little mission to find justice for barb after s1 is like. amazing. genuinely i love that plot for her and i canāt imagine anything better for her to have focused on in s2. unfortunately though i think her and jonathanās little trip to see murray was just kind of... lame. the whole thing just felt like an excuse to get the two of them alone together, yknow? which is fine i guess people contrive all sorts of situations to get characters alone together for romance reasons but in this case i think it just really doesnāt work for me because of what itās juxtaposed with. like, will is POSSESSED, and jonathan is just off on a mini road trip and sleeping with his bestie, and jonathan never seems to communicate to joyce/will that he left town, and joyce never like... thinks to tell him that will is like sick and fucked up and theyāre looking at him in the lab??? like itās so weird i know joyce always forgets about jonathan when shitās happening with will but jfc youād think at some point in that like... 72-ish-hour period where jonathan was out of town she would have thought about him. like at least once. maybe iām forgetting something and she mentioned him sometime and i missed it but even still, i hate the juxtaposition of nancy and jonathan just like cheers-ing at murrayās place and sleeping together and whatnot while everyone else is dealing with possession or trying to hunt down dart yknow? it feels really boring in comparison and i think it could have been done far better. like it was SO insanely easy for them to get into the lab and get an admission of guilt and escape with it!! i think it might have been a lot more engaging if maybe someone from the lab tailed them to murrayās place and they had to like lose the tail and race to get the recording out to as many news outlets as possible before they got caught, or something like that. the tension in their plotline is completely resolved in episode four!! episodes five and six are just them screwing around and addressing envelopes. while there were a lot of strong ideas in this plotline (i really enjoy nancy going out of her way to get justice, and the fact that they have to water down the story to make it believable), i just think the focus on nancy and jonathan getting together hindered it a lot without adding a ton to the plot or their individual characters.
season 3
strengths
starcourt mall as a setting
while i donāt think the mall was utilized quite to its full potential (something i could make a separate post about if anyoneās interested), i do think that starcourt was a genius addition to the series. iāve said this before, but building a new mall is a literal Perfect in-universe justification for a significant leap forward in fashion and aesthetics, and it provides a great location for characters to just... be characters. idk how else to articulate this i just think that the mall is a great setting to let people interact with each other and to bring people together who may not have been otherwise (i.e. scoops troop). not to mention how sick it was to see the mall get wrecked toward the end kdjncdkm like they were able to do so much more with the mall in terms of like The Finale than they could with just the byers house or the cabin or the school or even the lab. i love all the back tunnels they run through itās such a fun like acknowledgement of how this glitzy eighties mall is just a real place where employees get shipments and take out the trash and shit idk itās all about the perfect facade and whatās hidden whatās underneath whatās hiding in plain sight etc etc iām just saying words now. anyway.Ā
willingness to experiment and go against expectations
gay robin. neon aesthetics. giant fucking meat monster. i know some people hate both the neon and the meat monster but i personally think they were kind of amazing and like. yknow regardless of personal tastes i think itās impossible to deny that s3 had a lot of incredible visuals, and theyāre all visuals that just wouldnāt have been possible if the show were too afraid to stray from its s1 aesthetic. robin being canonically gay (and her resulting friendship with steve) and the seasonās striking visuals are two things that most everyone (besides like homophobes skjncdknm) can agree were great, right? and they were both departures from where the show began and what we all expected!! so yeah i think while some of the experimentation in s3 wasnāt ideal it was also that experimentation that allowed for some of the seasonās strongest elements to come about.
the hospital sequence (and the seasonās action/horror scenes in general)
this one is fairly self-explanatory. while they may have underutilized the ābody snatchingā element of the season, the hospital sequence with nancy and jonathan fighting off their possessed bosses did an amazing job of building tension and creating a genuine sense of really intense and personal danger.
in general i think that s3 melded action and horror rather well, particularly in the sauna test, the hospital, and when the mindflayer busts through the roof of hopās cabin. horror can come from many things, and in this case, st elicited horror largely from the feeling of helplessness, and it was really effective for me personally. i think it worked better for me than s1ā²s brand of horror because it doesnāt rely so much on a lack of knowledge or a sense of suspense that inevitable disappears upon a second viewing.
the body horror we got in s3 was also really fun! thatās it i just think all the blood and guts and slime were fun and i would like more of them. once again, the impacts of body horror are less dependent upon the viewer being in the dark or unsure as to whatās happening, and as such i think it tends to be a little more effective at eliciting reaction in the long term.
timing and mechanics of the battle of starcourt/finale
i think the battle of starcourt is just fucking awesome, and beyond that personal opinion, i think itās the most high-stakes and intense finale of all three seasons, and this is for two main reasons! 1. el is out of commission, and 2. (almost) everyone is in the same cental location. this means that (almost) everyone is in danger all at once, and they are all working together at the same time to fight the same threat. s1/s2 have their groups more fragmented for the finales, and while i understand why in each case and i wouldnāt call either seasonās finale necessarily weak, i do think the centralized nature of the s3 finale just Works on another level. in s1 and s2, large segments of the cast are already perfectly safe by the time el dispatches the primary threat. in s3, however, everybody save for dustin and erica is still in danger up until the last moment, and el is seemingly (you can def debate how much power she still had in her when she peeked into billyās mind and whether the memory broke the mindflayerās hold on him or if she was actually controlling him to some degree) completely vulnerable. this increases the tension and raises the stakes, making the finale a real crescendo to fortissimo as opposed to a series of little mezzo forte moments. i hope everyone reading this knows music idk how else to phrase that my brain is stupid.
emphasis on friendship and adolescence (but in a different way than s1/2)
this is definitely a controversial one but i think that s3 really did like... show a side of friendship that had been more or less unexplored thus far in the show. el and max were amazing, and i think itās really nice that we got an opportunity to see the kids have some growing pains as well as see them support each other through Normal Adolescent Stuff like boyfriends and breakups instead of just like. death and trauma. this is maybe just a personal preference, but i think it can be really enlightening and provide a lot of depth when you get to see how characters respond to normal everyday conflict and not just how they respond to giant world-ending conflict!! letting el use her powers for goofy teenage shit like spying on boys and messing with mean girls at the mall is not only fun for her and the audience, but it also really emphasizes just how much those powers are a part of el, making it that much more devastating when she loses them at the end of the season.Ā
weaknesses
tonal dissonance
so this is like. obvious. but it must still be said! i wonāt go on and on about it since we all know this so iāll try to like talk about it from an angle people donāt usually? anyway. it seems to me like they were maybe a little worried about s3 being too dark. while the choice to really lean into humor was definitely driven by the sorts of eighties teen films from which s3 drew inspiration (like fast times at ridgemont high), i think it was also done in an attempt to alleviate the more troubling implications of some events in the season, particularly the russian bunker plot. like, yeah, st can be incredibly dark, but if theyād played the wholeĀ āchildren being stuck inside of a foreign military base, tied up, tortured, and druggedā thing completely straight without the humorous elements that exist in canon, it had the potential to be like... disturbing on a new level. steve and robin donāt have powers like el yknow their kidnapping/torture doesnāt have any sci-fi elements to sorta soften the blow. theyāre just innocent teenagers being brutalized and traumatized by grown men. so anyway yeah i think maybe the writers were concerned about this storyline coming off as too dark and they wanted it to be a little more whimsical but they ended up pushing way too hard in that direction and creating extreme dissonance at times. this goes for joyce/hopper/murray/alexei too, but to a lesser extent. i think the ridiculousness in that group felt a lot more like... realistic. but still.Ā
newspaper plot
once again i feel like i donāt even need to say this skjdncmn we all know it was insane how the show basically ended up delivering the messageĀ āwhile misogyny is a serious problem poverty and classism are notā and iāve said it on this blog a million times so i donāt need to repeat myself. iāll focus on another weak point of this plot: the fact that it completely separates nancy and jonathan from everyone else. once again, the showās preoccupation with j/ancy held them back! like... can you imagine a version of s3 where nancy and jonathan both worked in the mall? i have a lot of ideas about this possible au and like how the plot could play out differently if they worked in the mall but first of all itās just more realistic, second of all it further utilizes the mall as a central setting, and third of all, it would bring everyone together. as it is in canon, nancy and jonathan were unnecessarily isolated from the rest of the group, and this isolation was detrimental to both of their characters. like, they only ever get to interact with each other! if theyād gotten summer jobs in the mall, they could have had more interactions with the kids/steve/robin, and they absolutely still could have had a similar argument! maybe in this case, nancy notices the rat thing (or something else odd) herself when taking out the trash behind the mall, and she wants jonathan to ditch work with her to check it out bc she thinks it may be related to the lab. jonathan doesnāt want to ditch work because he needs his job, nancy argues that theyāre working shitty mall jobs anyway and who cares if they get fired, and we get more or less the same thing as s3 without the cartoonishly over-the-top misogyny. i mean honestly i think the rat shit could have been cut entirely it didnāt rly... accomplish much of anything. in my opinion. like imagine s3 without the rat plot you literally would not be missing anything except it would be more surprising when the dudes melted into goo at the hospital. so yeah i think it would have been better if nancy and jonathan had jobs at the mall, werenāt isolated from everybody else, and were maybe absorbed into the partyās plot or the scoops troopās plot from very early on, allowing them to interact with more characters and have a less... dumb.... plot. like god splitting up nancy and jonathan between the party/scoops troop would have been So Much better i just. sdkjcnksdmn anyway yeah.
briefness of group reunion/separation of groups
remember in s2 at the beginning ofĀ āthe gate,ā where mike and hopper had a confrontation and max and el met for the first time and el hugged everyone and steve and nancy had their sad little moment together outside... whereās that energy? obviously the s2 reunion wasnāt that long either, but it made space for some significant emotional moments to take place. s3ā²s reunion had some hopper/el/mike resolution, but besides that... there was nothing, really. i just think that the whole group getting together in s3 was SO exciting and powerful the way they did it (with both the scoops troop and the adults having their own Big Moment reconnecting with team griswold family), but the emotional potential was more or less squandered.Ā
i also think in s3 at times they were really stretching to keep everybody separated even though it made no sense. and like... in s1 the separation worked bc nobody else knew that (x group) was experiencing weird shit too, and beyond that, each group (as i mentioned in the s1 section) was sort of operating within their own genre and bringing something unique to the season. theyāve stopped doing that though! now, the groups arenāt separate bc each plot is tonally/structurally different, the groups are just separate bc... they need to be, because itās a big ensemble cast and you canāt just have them all be together for a whole season or it would be way too difficult to coordinate things and keep the show dynamic. all this is to say that iām excited for s4 because the location differences make it so thereās a Reason for each plot to be separate at the beginning, and i think thatāll work better.
general ridiculousness
i dont mean like i think itās bad that they made jokes this is just me lumping in all the dumb shit like hopper not worrying about el and not wanting to check on the kids, him and joyce bickering long after they both know they and their children are in danger, max seemingly forgetting that billy is a racist abuser, etc etc. i think many of these are just a symptom of the show 1. trying desperately to keep the groups split up a certain way even though it may not make any sense, and 2. trying to fit into a certain genre/trope mold when their actual characters are more complex than the tropes theyāre imitating. this is so fucking long already i am not gonna elaborate further rn but i trust u all know what i mean.
soooo... yeah, thatās about all! i mean itās not all there are definitely many more things i could talk about and i know i focused sorta disproportionately on the teens which is my bad :/ but iām done for now. thank you for asking, and apologies for the delay in responding!! iām sure some people reading (if anyone read this far) will disagree with some of what iāve said and thatās alright like iām not The Authority on st or anything iām just trying to talk about like my own thoughts yknow? so yeah luv u all i hope someone enjoyed reading this!!
#asks#em talks#lesbianrobin.canon#stranger things#if u actually read all this i love u and im sorry#these r just my opinions!! and im sure i misremembered some shit my brain is swiss cheese#i did my best tho
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what are ur thoughts... on helia's relationship with masculinity? his earlier wardrobe was softer colors and peasant blouses and his (beautiful, beautiful T^T) hair was kept long. obviously we know that shit slapped even if the show wont acknowledge it now. his look always made him super distinct from the rest of the guys, but i feel like that may have also been an alienizing factor? red fountain is a military school and i promise im not asking for your take on gender roles or toxic masculinity of the entire magic dimension or to write helia a planet and culture and backstory from scratch (unless? š, bc your takes are always fascinating), but do you think he was ever taken with that, or felt subject to other's opinions on that sort of thing? has he always been comfortable with his presentation, or did he have any clumsy teenage overcompensating? if the latter, would you say leaving red fountain helped him come to terms with that or reinvent himself to his tastes? or maybe had him overcorrecting in the opposite direction, to distance himself from the red fountain lifestyle as well as account for his two haircuts and more traditionally masculine style later on?
anon i'm in love with you.
I have so many thoughts about Helia's overall aesthetic (and some about his concept designs heheh) but I won't get into all of them since that would make this way too long. To be honest, within canon we don't know a lot about Helia's personal thoughts about Red Fountain or the culture surrounding it and other military/paramilitary establishments. While this does make it harder for people to give him a solid characterization, it actually makes a lot of sense considering how quiet he is in terms of his own thoughts on things. We have random tidbits and rumors from other characters but almost nothing from him.
When it comes to his looks in canon, honestly I don't think it would ever be an issue. While long hair on men is stigmatized in real life, in Winx Club it's not that big of a deal, in fact, it's pretty normal. We see multiple male characters with long hair and not typically considered masculine wardrobes. Saladin, Palladium, Avalon, Valtor, and even background Specialists are just a few examples. Longer hair on men is a normal thing throughout all of the planets and only seems to be weird on Earth (ie Sky and Helia cutting their hair to blend in). While I do have a lot of thoughts on Helia's hair, I really doubt it was ever an issue in canon. It's only an area of topic in the fandom due to a couple of things that don't factor into canon (such as men having long hair being stigmatized in real life or the rumors that Helia was originally a female character [with absolutely no proof of that besides his long hair and slightly more feminine looking face]).
I think when it comes to Helia feeling out of place, it would likely have more to do with his personal interests, aka art, and not necessarily wanting to be a Specialist. Contrary to fanon, Helia likes being a Specialist and we know he respects Saladin and Red Fountain as a whole. Him leaving was largely due to being more interested in art than the "family business" so to speak. It's shown multiple times in canon that Helia feels a lot of pressure from being related to Saladin and that his own actions and opinions affect both Saladin and the school (which says a lot about how the Magix Dimension feels about families and relations). His back and forth between being a Specialist and being an artist have to do with him not wanting to disappoint Saladin or affect his image in a negative way.
We do know that other Specialists and people outside of the school have opinions about him and what he does but we don't actually know how he feels about that or how he deals with it. It gets brought up quite a few times; random people who aren't close to him talking shit for no reason (Brandon in ep.8, Riven multiple times in the comics, other random specialists, etc), and yet, Helia's own feelings about the matter never get revealed. Again, I think this plays into how quiet he is about his own emotions, not wanting to start shit or get into a fight that could later damage Red Fountain's image.
In that way, you could say Helia deals with some amount of rejecting masculinity, but personally, I think his actions have more to do with feeling like he needs to have a "good" image because of his familial relations. Helia doesn't start conflict, he doesn't push things or engage in arguments, he's extremely conscious about how his actions affect Saladin and the school (he even uses this to his advantage in the Shaab Stone arc). We don't know the extent of how much people talk about him, behind his back or to his face, and we don't the extent of how much it affects him.
Personally, I think Helia is conscious enough to have dealt with toxic masculinity, specifically trying to get away with it, earlier in his life. While Red Fountain is a paramilitary school, it's shown explicitly that they don't tolerate that attitude and try to knock it out of any boy that enters (aka don't start dumb fights, don't insult your teammates, don't do dumb shit to prove your worth, etc). The only reason the main boys managed to stay in the school is that they're canonically the best students and Codatorta believed in them (also cause yknow,, they're the love interests).
While the Magix Dimension definitely has some degree of toxic masculinity, Helia in particular mostly battles with toxic perfectionism and family legacy. He's not consciously or subconsciously trying to be the ideal version of a man nor does he base his life or opinions of himself on that. Helia tries to be the perfect Specialist and the perfect grandson. He tries to be the perfect student in a school that's largely associated with the best soldiers in the universe and that's also run by his grandpa, while also dealing with his own actions and opinions affecting the image of said grandpa and school. So honestly, no, I don't think Helia particularly gets affected by masculinity, toxic or otherwise, and I don't think any of his actions in canon could be led by it. However, I do think he's in an awkward situation and tries too hard to live up to other people's (and his own) expectations of him and that some of those expectations can run into the "ideal" version of masculinity (such as Brandon saying "he doesn't like to get his hands dirty" as an insult).
While I do love the idea of Helia going through a little teenage rebellion and him going to art school being a result of that, in canon, it's partially implied that he really didn't change. Saladin sees him as the same person and the specialists recognize who he is. There is no "whomst the fuck are you" kind of moment with any of the characters. This is more implied by canon than directly shown but, I do think that Helia was one of those people who had to mature quickly as a kid. And that him leaving Red Fountain multiple times is mostly him trying to get away from those expectations. We see this theme with multiple characters so I don't think it's a wild conclusion.
When it comes to his haircuts and different aesthetics, I think that's mainly Rainbow mucking things up. His aesthetic change in S4 is so they can blend in, it's not him being himself. Even when their identities get revealed and everyone knows they aren't from Earth, they're still trying to fit in and live within that Earth culture. His changes in the later seasons are largely due to Nickelodeon not understanding the characters and just wanting a group of masculine soldier dudes.
Unpopular opinion but: I think a better way of showing how out of their element the specialists were in S4, would actually be to cut Helia's hair super short, not just the uneven shreds he got, and then have him grow it out through the season (maybe even magically like they did with Musa) to show that they're chill on Earth and people aren't scared of them. Is this an excuse for me to imagine him with a wolf cut? Yes.
#anon.. i have Absolutely written an entire planet backstory and culture for him from scratch#all helia stans do that its the one thing we're good at#alhdglajdhgljad#but anyway.. this got really long sorry aljhgdaljdg#while it is implied that helia isnt fond of people talking about him (who is?)#its also shown that he doesnt let it affect his life or his decisions#him running away from rf is him trying to run away from those familial expectations (and to chase his love of art of course)#wait actually scratch the very last bit imagine riven with a wolf cut#see i like thinking about tecna with a wolf cut too...#at this rate im gonna imagine all of them with a wolf cut...#wolf cuts are too sexy for sky im gatekeeping them from him#aldhgadhglja#answered#anonymous#winx helia#mine.metas#yes this is going in the meta tag š
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Do yall ever just Make an AU Redesign the characters Write 11+ pages of pure notes on random ass ideas
Some character notes under the read-more!
So Couple things on the reasonings behind the different changes
Naruto:
his hair reflects more Uzumaki, because Iāve always resented the lack of similarity between him and Kushina. Let him have bits from his mom too!! So the idea was that his hair lightens as it grows, because if pink hair is possible, this is too, dammit
I inverted the colors of his jacket and changed his pants to black because, yknow, heās supposed to be a ninja. He shouldnāt be running around in kill-me orange. I wanted it to maintain that childish but iconic orange but make it more lowkey
It isnāt very clear on the image, but i was trying to make his clothes really baggy and loose. I was thinking that if he has problems buying things due to the cruelty of the shop owners and other civilians, he wouldnāt have been able to really buy clothes as often as a growing child would need to. So he has these massive clothes that he just rolls up and run around in
jesus the more i write the more ideas i have
i want to make his hair longer and shaggier cause heās a kid. He doesnāt know how to cut his own hair and cutting short hair is much harder than cutting long hair
Moving on from the clothes
I have a bit of a headcannon that the children of jinchuriki possess certain traits from the bijuu of their parent, esp if the bijuu chakra surrrounds the baby in the womb sO Naruto looks a tad more foxy. Even more foxy cause he is both a jinchurikiās child AND a jinchuriki since a couple hours after birth
Thus his more oval pupils and slight purple coloring in the center
he also has yaeba! Endearingly crooked teef
Sakura:
Thereās honestly not that much? that i could have changed with her?
itās a more attitude and focus change that reflects a bit into her clothing
Instead of being infatuated with Sasuke and losing her friendship with Ino bc wtf ,Ā she holed away in the library and absorbed all the knowledge. Sheās lonely, and sheās not really a people person like how Ino is, so she begins to read theories and history and anything else that catches her attention (which is a lot)
Reading all this made her more determined in her goal as a ninja and casts aside the civilian style vanity. Sheāll look dangerous AND pretty, thank you very much
Her clothes are a tad darker because bright red is only marginally better than neon orange, and though not very visible, the skirt is a bit shorter
she has fingerless gloves and the bandages, mimicking different ninjas she sees around the village
Shorter hair because i think she wouldāve tried putting her hair in a bun or a ponytail but then realized that weight and care of long hair just isnāt for her. Besides, she rocks the short haircutĀ
i have no real reason for the belt other than i like the split between top and bottom
Sasuke:
I changed him the most (obviously)
Mmm while with the other two I had a more set reason for the different changes, I donāt quite have that for Sasuke
Similar to Sakura, I did want to change bits of his story in order to change certain story aspects HOWEVER Iām not entirely sure how i want to change things
The first couple ideas I had were to make Itachi more redeemable? I guess? Im not sure how I would word this but I wanted to make it easier for him to be forgiven by sasuke and the others. Make Sasuke question Itachiās motives for killing the clan
and those ideas included the entire clan NOT being killed. Most of them, yes, but not all. Like killing most of the clan but a couple civilian Uchiha surviving. Stuff like that
And going off of that branch of thought, i was thinking a surviving Uchiha would take Sasuke in? Or maybe not but he still has Uchiha taking care of him in a certain way
building up on his own pride in the clan, kind of aĀ āwe survived thisā grim pride? idk? anyways his clothes are more traditional inspired to kinda reflect that. Cause Uchiha always seemed the most traditional Japanese based group
heās also the brother of a shinobi prodigy, born into a family of ninja (Mikoto was a JONIN), so he knows how to dress like a ninja. more pouches for extra supplies and a mesh undershirt as a bit of armor
and canāt forget those protective arm guards lmAOO
Honestly Iāve got like- so many ideas but my thought process is very much Not Linear so iāve been screaming in this here pile of bees I need to think more on the middle instead of jumping straight to the end but yKNOW its a work in progress
#naruto#uchiha sasuke#haruno sakura#uzumaki naruto#redesign#fanart#au#alp art#this has honestly been a grEAT practice on drawing children#still a work in progress but im getting there#and also i made the uchiha dark dark red cause sharingan hehe#this took me too long to write because i kept getting distracted#and also its kinda long#oops#naruto fanart#honestly what are tags#team seven#nart art#nart au
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Well, my wifi is not back, and wont be anytime soon. The very earliest luckiest would be getting it back by Tuesday (unlikely). The very worst my house burns down so theres that /lh /hj
This sucks so much because I really cannot read asks I dont see in real time, I have the same amount of reading comprehension for them as I do Frankenstein XD
Dm me links to any important syndicate asks I miss while I'm gone š
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Bannnnnn I tried to draw the Jekyll brothers but Kent? Is inconsistent? The database (what I use) showd him as a clean shaven guy with a bit messy hair but google is showing Kent as a completely different model? Neat hair, Brokenshire beard. Like it's the ingame "identify" zoom in and I cant check whats right before I already killed himmmm
Anyway here art <3. I know I said I'd draw the DTIYS first but art inspiration is stored in the Syndicate au <3
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Also I've been thimking about Henry wearing a mask +plus ponytail to hide his identity like for the past two days. Yknow those theater masks? The weeping and laughing? He wears the sad one while in the Blighters and Templars and the happy one while in the Rooks because hes a dramatic theater nerd. Also! I like to think that if Jekyll has to be a templar he'd still wear the Blighter uniform when he could and pretend hes not high ranking. He gets away with it because Crawford doesn't care about him and Roth lives for chaos
I also drew Henry in a mask and ponytail but it's not done yet š
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Also I did the math the the twins are 3 years older than Jekyll. Like thank goodness first of all because I fully went into ship entirely unaware on if there were canon ages or a scary difference. But also Jacob being 3 years older than Henry is kinda funny to me
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All of Evie's outfits (besides her default) are bad and I'm gonna fist fight the designers because the secrets of london (where I only searched the locations of 3) is so bad, especially with the effort needed. How did they do Jacob so good, but utterly fail with Evie /lh
NOOOOOOO D: Man, I really hope you will get it back asap, and also that your house don't burn down!!
Man, if I don't know your struggle rn. However I shall do my best to link you to every syndicate ask that I will get from here on out bc I don't tend to get small asks for that au so <3
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Huh-- oh wow you're right. I wonder if it is a set design or just a bit on random depending on the save file... I killed him a long ass time ago so I have absolutely no idea how he looked like <3
EITHER WAY OH MY GOD IT LOOKS AAMZING. I love??? How you gave all three individual personalities in just a single picture??? Kent looks like he is seconds away from murder and I LOVE Henry in the templar outfit, it fits him so well??? Man I really want to start thinking more of this branch. Would the entire Jekyll family be Templars so the trio got that role inherited? Are Raphael and Kent unidentical twins and Henry is the odd-one-out because he is the youngest? Were the three of them really close in Scotland, but left as soon as possible bc their family was abusive, only for Kent and Raphael to find refuge in the Templar Order while Henry goes to university? Would they still have that brotherly love if they were close as kids even when they are in the Order, or would they have a falling out and start despising each other (or Jekyll @ the older brothers at least)? Would Raphael and Kent secretly be protective of Henry and manage to keep him out of Starrick's line-of-sight so that Henry won't get in trouble for defying orders/ignoring them? Would they force Henry to join the Templars with threats or would Henry mostly feel obligated to join them? Since the Templar Order isn't illegal in London, would other people know that Jekyll is a Templar, or would he keep it hidden from the public? Would his brothers help hide his identity?? SO many questions and I'm so sad I won't be able to discuss them with you :'c
(also can I just say I love the poetic differences between their clothing. Raphael is just wearing a waistcoat/basic clothes and he is a brute and more open, Kent is wearing more clothes/layering up and he is the "brains" out of the two of them, Jekyll is wearing the most layers and is almost trying to hide himself and I just... *chief's kiss*)
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Henry being a dramatic theater nerd and stealing Roth's costume supplies to hide his identity bc he is so ashamed of it and doesn't want people he knows to know about it my beloved <3 Plus the blighter uniforms doesn't look too far off of what he normally wears so he could probably use that as an excuse whenever some other Templar gets up his ass about not wearing the right clothes, yet it still doesn't make Henry feel any better knowing he has to bear the knowledge that he is actively wearing discreet blighter clothes to keep the Order happy and the public oblivious, knowing what cause he is reluctantly supporting. (him joining the rooks and suddenly coming into the Society all dressed in green lol)
Anyways I have now also decided that Maxwell and Henry are friends bc they both hate the Templars and Crawford and Henry gets to star in many of the plays he sets up. Plus they are both slightly insane so they match each other good.
YKNOW WHAT I WAS DAYDREAMING ABOUT WHILE BRUSHING MY TEETH RIGHT AFTER THIS ASK? Jekyll being forced to be the one to murder his brothers and the twins trying to track the murderer down just to know who tf are killing their targets, conveniently at the same time Maxwell starts meeting Jacob. Henry watching Jacob from afar getting smitten by him but keeping a distance bc he knows Maxwell is possessive, Jacob being the first to befriend Henry after Maxwell explains that both of them are against the Templars and Crawford, Jacob saving Henry during the fire of the theater? Yes pls <3
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Thank god bc here I was imagining an age gap of like idk 15 years bc of the differences in the timeline but! I'm just going to keep the canonical age difference while also shoot the timeline up a lil so that the events of Syndicate and TGS takes place at the same time but they are the right age and stuff, just bc I do not like Evie's and Jacob's older designs and I do not want to imagine them meeting during the Ripper dlc <3 Also the thought of Jacob being older than Henry is funny. I think Henry has a type /j
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They are so fucking bad and I'm going to scourage the Nexus to see if I can find any good redesign mods because they are so fucking bad. But to be fair, all female main characters' outfits are bad. Pearl? Lucy Thorne? Mfs looks like vampires. Even more reasons for why I only play Jacob, bc all other outfits on Evie are bad <3
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Sanders Sides D&D 2
Ooh fresh take: Jan is virgeās patron and thatās why thereās beef
Also: Jan is some sort of fae related being
Jan: i need you to do something for me Virgil: no Janus: that's not how this works!! Virgil: watch me :P
Okay so I was thinking of Patton as a cleric cuz ooh healer however, Patton as a Druid makes me so happy
I want logan to have Rage
(Also that could tie nicely in an arc about Logan learning to accept feelings)
but barbarian logan is going to be a scholar again and is gonna be smort
bc hes logan. he cant be not smart
Oh I figured heād be the bbeg that eventually joins the party (hurt/comfort baybee!)(Remus)
he was the bbeg but then joined the party as a bardbarian or just a bard
plus, actual bard who accidentally casts vicious mockery instead of bardic inspiration
Side note: please include a scene where Remus attempts to seduce the dragon
also with this second au, i can start them at like level 5 so people can multiclass
Pat as cleric/druid
gasp logan as artificer/barbarian
janus sorcerer/rogue
because basically everything but alchemist would work well with barbarian, but alchemist feels very Logan
bc mad scientist being actually mad
alchemist logan making an experimental potion and going "here im not sure what this does but im sure its fine! someone drink it"
Remus does it voluntarily, but Logan usually tries to get Roman to drink it
Virgil will occasionally drink it when he's on his last legs and is just like.....100% done with the party
remus as a wild magic path barbarian and just fucking teleporting or doing something equally ridiculous whenever he rages
Oh my god Remus with rage would be a force to be reckoned with
You gotta describe the first time he goes into a rage really dramatically
obviously virgil is trying to "escape" his patron, Janus (really just do whatever he says to not do out of spite)
Eldritch knight roman
Feywild warlock virgil
hey so in the second d&d au, should roman and remus be actual full siblings but like remus went darkside and like romans just trying to get back at him for putting a dark stain on the family name
hey hey hey what about warforged Logan? (essentially a robot)(so like "i dont feel anything" becoming real)
okay hear me out. elf roman and elf base simic hybrid remus. so like maybe the reason remus went darkside was experimentation? so like. hes elf but special
FALLEN AASIMAR VIRGIL
virgil just transforming in the middle of a combat scenario and like his eyes turn into black pits and flightless skeletal wings appear on his back and like everyone near him has to make a charisma check and like he deals extra necrotic damage
Pat is the one human stuck in a band of misfits
so with it, roman would be a full elf, and remus would be an elf that has tentacles bc octopus
So robot logan
i meant literally he doesnt feel anything
like he has all the emotions, but he doesnt physically feel the need to like eat or sleep or stuff like that
he just.....he pretend he don't have the feelings.....but he do.....he feel so much and he hides it all in his littol mechanical heart <3
plus......if he warforged, then like.....AC huge
he stands in front of friends.....he protecc...."no, i don't have feelings, i am physically incapable of affection" but he do!! he do! he take hits for them because he do!! he care so much
Bro he spouts all this and then he uses a reaction to dive in front of someone and everyoneās just like oh
LIKE ROMAN STILL BEING MEAN TO LO BC HE THINKS HE DOESNT HAVE FEELINGS BECAUSE HE DOESNT HAVE A HEART BUT HE DOES
hey hey everyone needs to grow
and logan standing up for himself and other people stepping in and saying no stop thats not right
plus if canon wont give me roman facing the consequences of his actions towards Logan......
but also Roman learning how to properly handle his own emotions and how he interacts with others
logan who doesn't view himself as anything more than a machine to be useful to others
the party giving logan love and affection until he slowly learns his own worth as a person
Roman and Logan not getting along (maybe Roman has a Lore reason to distrust Warforged, maybe not) and slowly learning to trust each other
when Logan is feeling real down or having some issue, Roman actually comes through to help him, showing how far both characters have come
Okay yes but also can we please give Roman more confidence than canon? Like Iām sooooo sick of low self esteem being played for laughs or just being really really sad
this boy is going on a mission and will slap his brother upside the head and tell him to shut tf up remus youre not a monster just come back home and he will do it alone if need be
OKAY SO WHAT IF HE ORIGINALLY WENT ON THE QUEST JUST TO STOP REMUS ONCE AND FOR ALL BC ROMAN THOUGHT HE WAS A MONSTER, BUT ALONG THE WAY, AND AFTER LOGAN, HE CAME TO REALIZE THAT NO, JUST BECAUSE REMUS (AND LOGAN) ARE DIFFERENT, THEY ARENT MONSTERS, JUST DIFFERENT
AND LIKE IN THE FINAL PUSH TO MAKE REMUS JOIN BACK WITH HIS BROTHER, ROMAN IS PROJECTING HIS OWN FEELINGS ONTO REMUS AND EVERYONE IS LIKE WOW BRO YOU GOOD THERE, BUT ITS A BIG MOMENT FOR LOGAN, ROMAN, AND REMUS
im unsure as to how, but it happened when he was an older teen/young adult. a simic scientist either picked him (read: kidnapped), or remus volunteered (potentially to escape court life, unaware what exactly the experiment was going to do to him physically
bc also, remus and roman are royalty
so like. how best to get at the nobes/royalty/rich famous people than by turning their kid into a monster
wait, wait, wait, because i'm lowkey a sucker for this trope, but i'm not sure if it fits Remus: the experiments left him with some fairly significant physical pain/uncontrolled magical reactions. through some combo of trying to deal with that and trying find a cure for his pain, he keeps like....absolutely wrecking random towns on accident but also deliberately wrecking certain places looking for either a) vengeance on the guy(s) responsible or b) someone who can make the pain stop
SO LIKE. WILD MAGIC BARBARIAN DOING WEIRD SHIT TO HIM WHENEVER HE RAGES
AND LOGAN COULD MAYBE HELP WITH THE PAIN AND SHIT
BC ALCHEMY
Yknow, for simplification purposes, we could say the True Bbeg just gave Remus lycanthropy and Remus hasnāt managed to control it yet
lycanthropy but simic shit?
Mr. I-Don't-Have-Feelings sees the poor dude in pain and also Roman in emotional pain from seeing his brother in pain and is absolutely like "i must resolve this like right now, immediately" because he definitely doesn't hate seeing his friend suffering, or his friend's brother whom he's just met
he definitely doesn't relate at all to the idea of someone else shaping your body and absolutely does not sympathize with Remus's plight
i was thinking the grappling thing and either manta glide or the ability to breathe underwater for the simic stuff, but like he doesnt have control over the tentacles yet?
Manta glide seems like we could have fun battle scenes
he just jumps off a cliff to avoid mushy talk/dealing with his actions/roman
Roman: Remus just because you're a monster and though i wish i was an only child-- Remus, jumping off a cliff: byyeeeeee Patton: Roman, look what you did! Virgil: dammit jan what did you do? Janus: why do you think i had anything to do with that? im a fae, not a genie Logan, thinking: what an asshole. i wish i could do that
oh my god Logan always being tired mentally bc he cant sleep
Oh my gosh I love that. So Remus got kidnapped super young, (from royal family) they never found him, as a result Roman had to grow up super fast (side effect: lowkey inconsiderate and forgets to ask for others input). Meanwhile, Remus was experimented on by True Bbeg and came out with some trauma and super cool additives
yep! chronic pain and ptsd and all sorts of other shit!
so like, simic hybrids are usually created when they're adults. but what if the true bbeg decided to go younger to see what would happen, and thats why remus has chronic pain and stuff
he was still growing when his genes were spliced, so hes dealing with growth plates shifting and his body maturing and puberty and body changes and stuff
Pat is going to have a lighthearted story. Im saying that now. Hes the one without all the baggage
Sure, but his parents have to lowkey be the really kind people who are surprisingly always down for violence
everyone: multiple crises Pat: y'all need help Pat: love and affection in spades for his little band of misfits
Patton (which I think would be pretty simple, honestly he might just see danger and jump in and suddenly everyone in the party has Feelings)
Logan
Mhm. So how did he grow up? Was he just poof created? Wait
What if he was created by the king?
To make up for remuss disappearance
wait, wait....angst......he was created to fight (hence the barbarian stuff) but alchemy is his real passion
wait so like. a second son???
hes there to replace remus?
Yea! (But like in a sympathetic grief way) But that causes a bit of a complex in Roman and ergo Roman and Logan have a bit of a beef
okay so like. hes there to be a companion for roman, and like take remus' place, even though hes not actually in line for the throne?
LOGAN AS A KNIGHT
and just......the conflict of being created for a specific purpose (plus being, you know, robot and technically incapable of deviated from said purpose) vs the fact that he actually does have independent consciousness and like....wants to live life for himself
the parents made Logan a barbarian in hopes that him and Roman would be safe
okay. so logan was created by the king with the sole purpose to take remus' place as romans brother/companion, and to be his like guard? protector? and fight, but logan wants to be an alchemist and study shit
wait, wait, wait.....thinks about Asimov's Laws
he.....his first operative is protect (specifically protect Roman)
oh man. so hes literally just a shield
his second level operative is just like.....care for Roman's emotional well-being, but he doesn't really know emotions because he was kinda just spawned and nobody told him how
and he just....kind of....lets Roman treat him like garbage and take all his grief out on him because he's staunchly in denial of both having feelings or knowing how they work
Anyway Yea so Logan created by royal family in place of Remus which created angst between the two ābrothersā and identity issues in Logan. Their arcs are learning how to healthily process emotions plus Roman apology and Logan commits to alchemy
So big question: why did virge make a deal?
Tricked
he gave janus his name
and instead of janus like killing him or whatever the fae do to people who break the rules of dealing with the fae, jan was like. hey. i'll give you magic, but do what i say
Janus is lawful neutral, but leans towards being selfish
hes self serving, but he has a strong set of morals and rules he follows
Tho I want to Virgil to also not be pushover so letās say loophole happened and Jan has to stay with virge (hence why Jan is a part of the party)
okay so a couple of the rules are dont give a fae your true name and don't try to figure out their true name
So
what if virgil accidentally gave up part of his true name, and got stuck in the deal, but then figured out janus' true name
so in the same vein that janus had control over virgil, virgil now has more control over janus
he still gets his magic from janus, so he cant break free completely, but virgil has more freedom and can occasionally tell janus what to do or when to shove it
there should a running gag where virge can explain how he learned Janās true name but Jan can make something loudly censor him every time
(he learned his name bc once he heard janus practicing his evil genius voice and talking to himself in the mirror and janus said his true name)
so maybe janus sent virgil on the quest to protect a town or stop something related to remus, but virgil dragged him along
he might just be trying to protect a town thats close to a ley line, or something fae-related, and they just happen upon the whole thing
janus is selfish. but lawful vs chaotic is where he comes through, in morals vs doing whatever. janus has a strong set of loyalties to the fae, and to himself
so like....Remus is just too close to Jan's stuff and he wants to take him down
Virgil is just like....exhausted and said "fine, but if i gotta do this, you're coming, too"
or at least figure out a way to protect his place, even if it doesnt mean fully taking out remus. just moving him would work for jan
Janus: virgilllllllllll hes going to mess up my magic storage locker Virgil: Jan, its empty Janus: but its mine
Yea. Remus attacks a city away from the fae: Jan: Yknow Iām gonna sit this one out Virge: oh no you donāt, get up
Or
Janus vs Janice
so his real name is Janus, but Virgil calls him Janice
Virgil: This is Janice Janice: with a āU-Sā Virgil: mhm, sure Jan
I'm a big fan of just like any of the old theory name being various aliases for Jan
Damien, Dante, Ethan, Declan, etc, etc
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Info dumbo about the StarFinite story?
aright u asked for it anon GET READY [cracks knuckles] this is gonna be long so obligatory cut in 3, 2........
...1!
so the uh, the au! the story!! w/e yall wanna call it! full disclaimer, i only began working on this whole thing a while ago, but it's totally taken over my fukn brain. like, we're talking big hyperfixation hrs. am i cringe for being this invested in my own content? yes? cool i do not Care >:3ā¬
i should also throw it out there real quick that i am kin w/ infinite, n this is actually one of my two canons (both of which are my own aus lmfao wow). i didn't go into it expecting it to be but sfsfsgdfs here we are ig!! for that reason it's got extra importance to me n this definitely contributes to the euphoria i get from it!! it's a lil odd writing ur own canon,,? but i kinda just go w/ the flow!
the au n, the story that i will start Eventually, revolves around infinite n starline (obvi) n it's honestly just ... the tl;dr is big healing momence n, what's this? uh oh sisters !!! they are falling in love š³š³š³
uhhhh so infinite is an android, made by eggman. that's like, the most notable canon divergence here! super important context to have. i've got a whole big theory on the possibility of sega originally intending infinite to be an artificial being (which i explored in the works for my Other canon too), stemming from not only the scene in forces wherein infinite comments on sonic's "data", but a line of dialogue from tails in one of the last stages of the game where he Literally Says "so this is where eggman built infinite". that ... i mean. that contrasts w/ episode shadow pretty hard don't it?? would explain why that dlc was so rushed, n the comic too. ANYWAY adsfsfs um that's a seperate ramblepost. yeah!!!
they are also agender n use they/them (primarily) as well as he/him!! so i'll be refering to them w/ those pronouns!
after the war, infinite is taken in by the resistance n, instead of being dismantled, they're basically given a chance to rehabilitate themselves. it's agreed that they won't be reprogrammed, as despite the potential risks, it feels wrong to do so; like a violation of their free will, individuality n thinking. if infinite is to be a good person, it's not gonna be bc other ppl recreated their entire personality, it's gonna be bc it's what they themselves truly want. robot ethics idk man!! u can't tell me that sonic n co wouldn't offer this to infinite if they offered it to metal in IDW,,,, i am Standing By This!!!
it's, yknow, a bit rocky, at first. infinite has to really fight the urge to return to eggman (something they already tried once, before the resistance found them; they were cast out). it's a struggle against what they were built to do, against giving into unhealthy familiarity over facing a, while healthier, unfamiliarity. new faces, a new life, turning their back on their mission n creator, it's like, a lot.
they work for/with the sonic crew, rebuilding the world they tore down as deemed fitting justice, being closely monitored for a bit as a natural precaution. as it becomes apparent infinite truly no longer has any ambition to harm others (they don't have much ambition for anything, really), they're then granted more freedom, n start taking on more important missions!! it at least gives them something to do, keeps them occupied. they have issues with dissociation, unreality, whether they're truly a real person bc, well, android. feeling purposeless, n a lack of worth, especially. a need to prove themselves. heavy stuff. i'll kinda go into that a bit more in a sec. their work grounds them, if only temporarily.
n soooooo... IDW comic stuff happens. metal virus time. starline gets kicked out of the empire.
now, as the comics are ongoing, n as this is already an au, there's gonna be divergence, n i must admit i haven't planned out all that yet. there's a lot i have to consider!! infinite being w the resistance/restoration is a big game changer ... tho i Do believe that they were absent, likely on a far out mission during most of the chaos. eggman doesn't know abt them, nor does starline or anyone else other than the sonic crew; n some civilians that recognise them.
i'm not 100% sure of Exactly when it happens, but i think it's just after bad guys, that infinite is sent to locate n bring in starline. it doesn't prove too difficult. there's a whole, starline realising "oh fuck it's you???", some bickering n, the two don't hit it off right away. they're both kinda like. not mentally stable ddgddgdds,,,
so uh. starline ends up essentially going thru the same sorta shit as infinite. careful watch, rebuilding, all that jazz, making sure he can be trusted. he's like... very very lost, quite like infinite is. the world has kinda calmed down, in the meanwhile.
it's at this point i'm gonna go ahead n drop a bit of a ramble i subjected my friends to a while ago, to articulate the way i see the two, n their dynamic together!! i was considering making this it's own post a while ago!
analysing their characters a bit... let's look at starline. Like. so we have this, in bad guys, which SENT ME tbfh;
i feel like it's the moment that triggers starline onto the path he is rn canonically,,, he's clearly like. rly mad n bitter. the core of this?? he wants his work n his efforts to be acknowledged.
he's big angry. still kind of in denial at this stage. he has himself obsessed w/ the idea of making eggman see him as Worthy, that if he just tries hard enough, that'll happen. he's dependent on eggman's validation, n i mean, it's no surprise; he's followed him a Long Time by the sounds of it.
then in the recent issue, hold the fuck up, bc we got, This;
god. my god it's all comin together now homies. this???? this right here??? it is the CLASSIC "i have to do this to prove i'm strong n powerful n smart n worthy n should be respected please Give Me Acknowledgement" ..... n who else is Like That? can u see where im going w/ this?
i think most ppl are aware of infinite's character being extremely indicative of self worth/esteem issues n the need to prove themself, right?? the extreme adversity, repulsion, perhaps even fear toward the idea of being weak. the compulsion to prove otherwise, to show their strength, to become powerful, to conquer to make a point. their theme exudes this same energy as their behaviour in-game; an aggressive attitude, trying to assert themself, while if u rly listen...? the lyrics are actually really sad in places. it reeks of cover up, although composition wise, a v interesting thing to note is a lot of the more telling lyrics are prominent while some of the affirming ones are in the background. indicative of a desire to have their true feelings be heard but caught in a vicious loop?
okay okay that's yet Another different analysis. AHEM.
not to get deep on main (oh who the hell am i kidding that's the point of this entire thing) but i think starline has issues w/ his worth in a similar way to infinite. they both seem to have this need to Prove something, whether it's to others or themselves, n get caught in a toxic spiral of doing worse n worse things for Some kind of validation or acknowledgement. they'll go to really big lengths chasing that, n both of them ultimately sought validation in the wrong place n wrong way.
this is a big part of my starfinite dynamic,, n so, what happens, as they get closer n open up??? we have them BOTH realising together that they don't have to do fuck all to prove anything to anyone. they don't need to do all this to show they're strong n smart n worth something, not to anyone else OR themselves. they're enough as they are. they bond over that shared feeling that they have to do xyz, to prove themselves, n that desire to just finally be acknowledged n appreciated n help each other thru it. to help each other understand that other ppls approval, or lack thereof, doesn't define them, their strength, intelligence, and worthiness.
i feel like they have an interesting parallel between them in like... the above could be taken as a general analysis, but to go more in depth on this au specifically?? ...
starline followed eggman for presumably a long time n it no doubt left him feeling a heavy and deep regret for all that time wasted n spent on an unhealthy path. infinite kinda teaches him that what matters is what he's doing Now n also reminds him that if none of it happened, starline wouldn't have learnt a lot of the serious skills he has. n while starline still feels bad, he also realises himself that, he likely never would have crossed infinite's path if none of it happened. for that reason, he wouldn't take it back.
infinite has only been recently made, on the other hand. they haven't really existed long, yet, but so far their experiences haven't been very positive n it can be .... discouraging. starline sorta, shows infinite their limited experiences w/ the world are a very tiny fraction of what's out there, n things can absolutely change, yes, including for the better; that's the essence of life, a neverending, constant flow of change.
it's a big tale of moving on n letting go, honestly; made easier as they're doing it together. n as they heal n grow, well... these bitches gay. sfshshdgds like, ig that's putting it p bluntly but!! they start to trust each other, understand each other more. as they get to truly know who the other is, they both start developing The Feelings. they're both pretty oblivious n the reveal is totally unknown so far!! yeah, i know, bummer. i suck. boo. adafsfsds however i can say there will be lots of content in the making!! if that soothes the soul! i've got of ideas i hope to bring to life.
ofc there's still a lot of more specific things i haven't covered here so! if y'all want more juice hmu w/ more focused questions but !! this is the overview n i hope it was a decent read now that gave some uhhh! Cool Insight! yea!!! ā
#jackal.txt#android infinite au#i need a proper name for this#infinite the jackal#dr starline#starfinite#long post#idw sonic spoilers
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Alright so, related to this post, I decided to change Cressā spouse from some OC to a character from another Pokemon game, specifically Pokemon Duel.
More meta thoughts and really long but tldr: Cress is now married to Luca from Pokemon Duel and this made me sit down and think more on the twins as well and realized that yeah Reganās old name really really needed to change. Still getting used to his new one though.
A bit of a backstory. The kids of Striaton Triplets and Battle Chatelaines were the second set of fankids for this au I had come up with, and at the time while I did like the interactions I had come up for them in my verse I wasnāt big on shipping any of them with each other, so all the kidās parents were just meant to be unseen/barely mentioned OCs.
Then I decided to just pair up Chili and Dana and have their kids (Chiliās daughter and Danaās son) be siblings, formally joining the two groups of siblings. Which I honestly should have done sooner especially since I liked both groups a lot.
Eventually ended up making Trevor Nitaās husband and Vesperās father since he actually fit the vague idea of who that person would have been, so why not. Vesper did end up changing quite a bit however but I started finding the ship cute (plus rarepairs are my bittersweet poison).
So for a long time only Cilan and Cress still had the OC wives, since while I did see Cilan & Evelyn and Cress & Morgan as having the most interactions and fun dynamic with each other, I didnāt necessarily ship them, or at least not enough to endgame them in this verse. Evelyn was and still is fine as a single mother, very unlikely to change anytime soon (ignoring yknow the omegaverse side of things where things are a bit more complicated but she does end up married with OC) and Morgan just seems like the type to stay a single and rich cool aunt to the kids. Plus pairing Chili/Dana was already enough to me.
I was fine with how things were for a while, until I was making the family tree and it felt weird to leave the space for the Cilan and Cressā wives without a name. Then I remembered Trinnia from Pokemon Masters, and how I did joke the first time I played that game that Trista, Tricia, and Trinnia looked like female counterparts to the Striaton Triplets āand what if we pair them all together like PowerPuff Girls and RowdyRuff Boys.ā Obviously I wouldnāt follow through since I was already attached to Chili/Dana, but Cilan/Trinnia did appeal to me. So the only problem was Cress. I gave Cress/Tricia and even Cress/Trista some thought, but neither of them appealed to me at all for some reason. So at that point I gave up and just browsed through some nice sounding names. Build an idea of who this lady is. And I was starting to like where I was going with things.
Then out of the blue I remembered Pokemon Duel and remembered the characters. I honestly adored that game, even though I never got to finish the game since at some point I couldnāt get past most of the opponents at all. Seeing Luca and Tia again, one of my first thoughts was literally āperfect for Cress.ā But to be really honest here my first impulse was to go with Cress/Luca bc I am predictable. I did want to give Tia a chance though and not have another āsoft blue girl who just ends up as surrogate mom so two guys can have a kidā so I had things set up that both get a chance to meet and interact with Cress to give me more of an idea of who to endgame him with. Eventually (and probably not surprisingly) Cress/Luca won in the end.
The thing is, as I was thinking about all this, I came to realize that wow, I really need to change RĆ©veilās name. It just didnāt fit at all anymore, originally he had that as a sort of reference to the Chatelaine Sistersā time of day theme going on, similar to Zeaās name being a reference to the Striaton Tripletsā surname/them in their Japanese names. The more I developed things however, the more it started to make less to keep that name. Finally endgaming Cress with Luca just finally pushed me to make that long overdue change.
#log#will talk about cress/luca and more on luca and tia here in general in another post#also maybe one day will write about all pre fankid stuff with the canonc characters in the other blog#anyway i think why i stuck to rƩveil for so long was bc its close in spelling to rivaille#and i always did like that name/word#triplespiceshipping#matchalatteshipping#prettyboyblueshipping
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Dude!! Your ocs' powers sound so cool!!! I'm honestly really curious about their backgrounds/pasts in their og universes and how you'd incorporate that in the au! Especially Aline, she sounds metal as fuck ngl
*vibrates lightly* thank you, i would now proceed to die for you
OKAY OKAY OKAY OKAY OKAY
lide and ming-mei are both kinda vanilla in that regard, they were born with their powers. not entirely sure how to fit it into blands' verse but I'd love to hear ideas :D
i do however think lide would get into vault hunting for the loot so she can help her family! it's not the biggest thing about her in the actual universe but still, her father left and she's got a few younger siblings so she has to help her mom out a lot, mostly keeping an eye on them and taking care of the house while her mom's at work. sooooo while in the story she lowkey escapes so she can get a break from this stuff, she still wants to help, and money could def help her mom and siblings out!
ming-mei would probs use her powers to become an eridian researcher tho, since i think that's the main thing she could do with them in that verse really :P
aline tho actually works kind of perfectly for this? she volunteered for an experiment that could give her the power to heal people only by touch, but it failed and instead she ended up with,, this. she's in containment rn, the story i plan for these five characters is actually abt the other four teaming up to rescue her from it! in the blands verse she could honestly fit like that too, maybe she lived on pandora, in the areas that are actually kind of civilized (like hollow point for example) and got to see a lot of people dying from sickness and injuries because of lack of medical case. one company - let's go with atlas for sexy reasons - offered her a chance to be able to heal but like in her own universe, it failed :? except her she escaped containment on her own hehe.
i feel like she'd become a vault hunter to try to find powers that'll help her/find riches she could use to get rid of her power tbh :0 or maybe like, she'd join a group like the crimson raiders so she can help people and at least try to use her powers for good, yknow :?
jay got his power by fucking up with powers he shouldn't have, aka demons, literally because he was bored and lonely. in blands it might translate into like,, he explored eridian ruins and either being exposed to them or falling into something specific caused him to gain his power of summoning :0
jay legit becomes a vault hunter bc he's bored and lonely and it seems cool enough. someone please befriend this boy
flint is an alien!!! he got stranded on earth roughly 300 years ago, and since he doesn't look Quite Human (sharper teeth, weird eyes, enhanced agility, other than that he looks human enough), humans he stumbled upon tried to burn him, and the fire changed something in his body, and that gave him his power! in blands he's still an alien bc yeah. idk if people tried to burn him or the heat of pandora is what fucked him up, but i also don't actually have an ability idea for him yet so eh :P
flint seems to me like a classic vault hunter who's just looking for a thrill, loot, challenge, all that stuff. in his actual universe he's mostly just trying to survive (and after meeting and befriending the other 4 it changes to like, becoming a decent person n such) but i think he'll fit in nicely in blands!!!
THANK YOU SO MUCH for the ask omg :') i love talking abt these technically-no-longer-kids they're all disasters
#long post#sorry if this is kinda messy or paragraph starts don't make much sense#i kinda went freestyle and added stuff after typing out different parts asjdnfkg#i love talking about these folks I've had them since i was like 16-17 no joke......
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hi howdy hello!! i go by jess and this is my first time playing my sweet bb girl, so iām pumped! more about my girl audrey below the cut!
ā Ā ( SARAH JEFFERY ) Ā ā Ā dude, shut up ! AUDREY ROSE from DESCENDANTS is on screen. their fans swear theyāre just DETERMINED & OUTGOING, but weāve all seen their JEALOUS & STUBBORN side ! according to TRUMAN WIKIA, theyāre TWENTY-ONEĀ years old, BISEXUAL, & identify as CISFEMALE ( SHE/HER ). theyāre currently a STUDENT & are RELIEVED about life in truman. luckily they have HER DIARY & HER SONGBIRD NECKLACE with them & can visit THE FAIRY COTTAGE whenever they want. penned by JESS.
sooooooooo confession: iāve never watched a descendants movie from start to finish š¬Ā I know! crazy considering Iām playing a character from the movies, but like, have you guys ever seen a character and just be like wOW, that is My Type of character? cause thatās what happened with audrey. descendants 3 came out and was trending, and I checked the tag and like was ššš to audrey to the point that I watched queen of mean and got HOOKED. caught a replay of the movie and watched all the audrey parts while skipping over the rest.Ā since then Iāve been in love with my girl and sheās been on my mind so much that Iām returning to rp after a small break to play my girl. In preparation I skimmed through descendants 1 & 3, and adureyās youtube short story so Iām good to GO.Ā
CANON LIFE
āA lifetime of plans, gone. Our family status, gone. Audrey, you were supposed to be his Queen, and you let him slip through your fingers. Your mother could hold onto a prince in her sleep.āĀ
daughter of sleeping beauty and prince phillip, princess audrey has been groomed since she was a child by her grandmother to become the queen of auradon. sheād been friends with prince ben since she was a child, and was expected to marry him when she got older.
grew up used to the finer things of life, and as such, audrey was a bit self-absorbed and spoiled. became the most popular girl in school due to her status and beauty. was cheer captain. finally became romantically involved with ben at some point in high school. life was going exactly as planned.Ā
then ben decided to invite 4 villain kids (vks) from the isle of the lost to auradon, and everything went to shit. the stark black and white, good vs. evil mentality was deeply ingrained in audreyās psyche, so she was very much AGAINST the idea of any isle kids coming over. convinced the vks were up to no good, she never warmed up to the them, and bullied them (mostly mal) at times. and you know what? she was RIGHT
mal used a love potion to steal her boyfriend, who then humiliated audrey by serenading mal during a tourney match, where audrey was cheering at. no one gave two shits though?? or suspected foul play at all?? they just cheered and were like āah, cool! our soon-to-be-king has suddenly declared his love for this new vk whoās only been here for a few days! how awesome and totally natural !!Ā ā
audrey was still plenty popular by the end of the movie, but her fairy godmothers decided to treat adurey to a spa trip, which turned into an extended trip that required her needing summer school bc she missed so much school (aka why she was absent for descendants 2)
by the time audrey came back in descendants 3, everyone was ALL up malās ass crack. ben proposed to mal in front of everyone, serenading her with the SAME song he did in the first movie when he ceremoniously proclaimed his love for mal while simultaneously dumping audrey, and everyone cheered AGAIN for their union.Ā damn thing broke audreyās whole ass heart. on top of that, her grandmother chastised audrey for her failures in securing ben and basically failing the family.Ā
she also lost her status come d3??? like, at the end of d1, she was still cool as fuck. but come d3 girl is not even being invited to her friendās birthday parties anymore?? she has no friends?? no one gives two shits about how she must be dealing with everything? and wow does that not help things at all.
that night, in her loneliness and anger, audrey decided to steal the queenās crown from the artifacts museum. it was a petty thing. she was hurt, and just did NOT want to see the crown sheād envisioned as her own for all her life be placed on malās head. she didnāt have a goal beyond taking the crown. however, when she went to the museum, maleficentās scepter sensed audreyās emotions and desires for revenge, and revealed itself to her. itās glow lured audrey to it, fed into her emotions, and bing bang boom, audrey became the ultra fabulous QUEEN OF MEANĀ
under the scepter's influence, she put half of auradon under a sleeping spell, the other half she turned to stone, then she made ben a beast after he rejected her, and made mal an ugly old hag. she was foiled at the end by mal, and ended up falling under a sleeping curse as a result. with no True Loveās Kiss to awaken her (rip), the heroes ended up getting Hades to use his magic to wake her up.
at the end, she apologizes for her crimes & her emotions were finally acknowledged when mal and ben stepped up and apologized for their inconsiderate past actions to audrey (wELL, they never actually apologize?? they sayĀ āI owe you an apologyā but both donāt like actually say sorry, and thatās 100% something audrey has noticed for sure). she celebrates at the end with everyone else when the barrier is brought down and is last seen dancing with harry hookĀ
POST CANON
totally headcanon that sheās still not 100% happy as sheās shown in the end while dancing around okay
sheās STILL lonely!! she STILL wants those apologies!! sheās STILL lost about what to do with her future now that her whole life plan has blown up in smokes.Ā sheās HURT okay. her friends? abandoned her! ben? abandoned her! that one hurts the most bc after spotting that pic of audrey/ben as children together, I 100% hc that they have been best buds for years before falling into a relationship. and while itās clear ben was not really ~in love~ with audrey ( i image they ended up getting together bc it was just Expected yknow?), audrey still had feelings for ben. even if it wasnāt true love (she def wasnāt In Love tho she thought she was), she did still love ben. he was her best friend, and the fact that he never came around to apologize to her for humiliating her the way he did after the love spell broke HURT.Ā
also hc that she had to take a remedial goodness class following her stuntĀ
the ending given to her is life a brief showing of her and harry hook smiling at each other all soft like before dancing, which like, iām game for, but in terms of her actual future, audrey was trying to figure out just how to do life moving forward following everything
TRUMAN
āTell me it was all a bad dream.ā
yeah so I said audrey was relieved about her life in truman? 100000% true!
her life was incredibly sad and lonely before, so convincing her that all that shit was all just a bad dream was an incredibly easy thing to do for the descendants actors okay (im sad for her bc of this tbh)
her life as she knows it: she still comes from a family of high status and money. not technically a princess, but she sure does act like one. believes she was born and raised in truman, but was sent to boarding school at auradon prep since she was a child, where she thrived and grew into a typical Popular Girl (head of cheer team/one of the most beautiful girls), before returning to truman after graduating. basically she believes she had the same perfect life she had before in canon, minus the vks, ben, and the whole fairy tale/royalty stuff (basically everything that ruined that perfect life).
all that other extra stuff, including going all queen of mean and losing ben and being drop kicked by literally everyone, is just POOF, fuzzy memories, bad vivid horror story nightmares! every now and then sheāll witness an engagement, or spot a serenade, and itāll trigger an overwhelming sense of sadness, but for the most part, sheās content putting her life behind her. her new life is a much happier one. that could totally change once she starts encountering people from her past life again.
only really recognizes her family members as family members, and maybe recognizes some past auradon friends (maybe chad charming as her ex since heās the only one who didnāt totally abandon her rip)
since āreturningā to truman, sheās entered university on the island. she wasnāt sure where she was going with life, but she knew sheās always been really good at drawing and really good at event planning. so in uni, she decided to keep her artistic talents as a hobby and pursue a career in event planning. in pursuit of this, sheās a senior at college, majoring in hospitality management.
PERSONALITY
positive: determined, headstrong, outgoing, self-assured, polite, moral, dedicatedĀ
negative: jealous, stubborn, demanding, bossy, petty, close-minded, seemingly mean (tho she doesnāt consider herself mean, okay? she just can come off as mean/rude)
CANON CONNECTIONS
ben & mal: need them both bc they are the ones who hurt her the most so iād loooooove to play out these dynamics in truman!! theyād be the most Triggering faces for herĀ
jay & harry & chad & uma: underrated audrey ships iād love to play out bc literally crumbs are given to the majority of these dynamics, and so I want to just...explore them?? three of these 4 are vks and 2 of those 3 are people audrey actively pursued in some sort of ~connection~ at the end of the movies when the Couples got together, and she did that even tho she is very Moral and has confusing feelings about vks, and i just wanna know more!!Ā
TRUMAN CONNECTIONS
yeah this is getting long, so Iām planning on posting a whole separate post in the truman plot tag for these wanted connections!Ā
and yeah! thatās everything on my girl! if youāve made it this far, youāre the best my dudes!! Iām gonna be on mobile for a good portion of the day before coming on at night, but if youād like to do any kind of plotting with my girl, just go ahead and hit that like button, and Iāll slide in yāalls dms! ā„
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PICK N OPAL!!! 1- What happens when your character doesn't get what they want? 2- How well can this character resist their emotions and impulses? 3- If the character were to come face to face with their darkest fears in a nightmare, what would they see? 4-Do they prefer sweet, salty, sour, meaty, spicy, or neutral tastes? 5- whats their feelings on the groups their with lately?
1- What happens when your character doesn't get what they want?
Opal: It really depends on what it is tbh. Opal will either let it go immediately, or heāll keep pushing subtly, or heāll have aĀ ādo it yourselfā attitude to it. If itās some kind of divine plan thing, heās -going- to make it happen, thatās the long and short of it.
Pick: He probably just whines really XD but if heās not getting what he wants because his opinion or thought process is like being put down then heāll get aggressive. He really buts heads with people on moral issues and developing plans because I think he thinks that you should always debate every possibility.
2- How well can this character resist their emotions and impulses?
Opal is stoic as fuuuuuck man...itās hard to really feel like he -has- impulses, but I definitely want him to almost be like -TOO- in control of his emotions. Yknow, like seeing your church get destroyed with your people inside it and seemingly not reacting super duper hard, just kinda...staring at it. (Yeah Baughn, thatās basically what he did when that happened do you feel bad?)
Pick is very emotional on the other hand. He tries so desperately to think about what would Anders do because he always felt Anders was smart, but Anders almost always acted on his feelings, and he instilled that in Pick a bit. Pick thinks first with his gut, then with his heart, and last with his brain- but he uses all three. Goblin nature in my mind is to be very id driven, so he very often just -goes- with his instincts and feelings, he doesnāt question them bc he feels thatās the truest part of himself.
3- If the character were to come face to face with their darkest fears in a nightmare, what would they see?
Opal dreams of building something, and while those things have been destroyed before and heās had to start over, there has always been a sense of rebuilding. Opalās worst nightmare would be that sense of total defeat- heās dying, his friends are dying around him, and everything he built is being destroyed in one fell swoop. Itās kind of dramatic but Opal doesnāt really think about things on a personal level, his worst nightmare is being there for the end of the world.
Pickās nightmare is a lot more real and personal. Heād be back in a place he was before. A place with music, and laughter, and a lot of voices...and heās looking at it while either standing over a corpse, or looking out from between bars.
4-Do they prefer sweet, salty, sour, meaty, spicy, or neutral tastes?
Opal definitely has a sweet tooth- I remember in waterdeep he had the equivalent of fish and chips and he found it..interesting but strange. I must imagine he loves things like custard and candied apples and the like, probably caramel too, things of that nature would really make him feel happy.
Pick eats a lot of things so he has a really expanded palette, I mean the guy will eat garbage. I think itās partially goblin instinct to like salty and meaty things, like gamey raw meat and stuff like that. But I also personally think that now, especially with the gourmand feat, that he has a real big love for spicy. Not necessarily spicy hot (though heād love that) but spicy flavorful, like with indian food and the like. Just really powerful flavors.
5- whats their feelings on the groups their with lately?
The Opal of Waterdeep has developed very slowly, I last left off with a month long timeskip while we rebuilt trollskull manor. He thinks that he can help them, but he needs their help too, and heās been learning their secrets and keeping his close. I remember I wrote out a whole speech for Opal because he believes he got one of the characters backstories figured out, and meant to confront them about it.Ā
Opal of Avisten is a little bit different- heās older, wiser, but more grizzled and lives in a more dangerous uncivilized world. It was his plan to actually assemble the party itself, he gathered these people and chose them individually for a reason. They are his people, they are his flock. I hate to use the religious allegory but Opal sees himself as theĀ ājesusā figure and all of the rest of the party are hisĀ āapostlesā. Maybe theyāll listen to him, maybe theyāll betray him. But theyāre all integral to each other and they all have something that Opal needs to do for them, and they will do something in return for Opal. Deep down they are good people, flawed people, but they need each other. As Ida would say they are twisted.
Picks ideas on the party are...complicated, a lot now, like a lot. Letās break it down:
Jin- The first person he met, didnāt think much of him at all. A very typical roguish type- talks a lot, not a lot of wit, good with his fingers, a himbo. Theyāre fastĀ āfriendsā but Pick really wants a rivalry. Jin is proving to be more than what he appeared, smart, multifaceted. Pick still thinks heāsĀ ābetterā but he thinks Jin is also necessary. The first person Pick would call a friend. Jins sexual advances make Pick confused and uncomfortable. Pick wishes that Jin would be more real- he saw Jin having his nightmare and associates strongly with him. Pick wants to be able toĀ āhash it out like dudesā but Pick is not one for heavy drinking or drugs or sex. Heās not about to bond and tell sad backstory over getting drunk, which he thinks is the main way that it would come out of Jin. He kinda also wants to see Jin angry, because he thinks that Jin is closing that off too. He thinks Jin is being friendly but he isnāt beingĀ ārealā with him, which is ironic because Jin is veryĀ ādown to earth, says it like it isā kind of dude...but heās not -really- doing it. Heās not being -really real- with Pick right now, which is fine, itās not the time for it. But can they just have a real conversation? Please?Ā
Kai- Technically the second person that Pick met after Jin. Strange, youthful nature, naive, good heart. The kind of person you call kid and ruffle up his hair. A tiefling- weird, foreign, strange. The thing Pick honestly doesnāt understand at this point is why the fuck does everyone baby this kid. Yeah he gets scared but thatās a good thing- and hello donāt know if you realized it but Kai is stronger than most of you. Where Pick sees others trying to protect Kaiās innocence, Pick sees someone that needs to be seriously trained if heās staying in this group. Stop babying him and show him how to properly use his sword. Donāt keep him away from things that give him fear, show him how to kill his fears. Pick doesnāt consider Kai a friend, but he considers Kai theĀ āgoodestā person of the group. Pick sees Kai as someone who by every right should turn to evil and is choosing to do good, instead of someone who was just born good and did what was expected of him.
Aspasia- Strange, strange woman. Strong, obviously- but out of place. Why is she here? Why is she connecting with these people. There is a mind behind that muscle that is being ignored- and god Aspasia is literally always thinking about other things. Pick initially thought Callie and Aspasia were lovers- heās still not really sure? But apparently Sia also is loosy goosy with Jin, he doesnāt understand their friendship at all. Pick and Aspasia havenāt spoken but he feels an unspoken energy between them. Their desire to fight, and OOC I know if they talked their goals would align more strongly than anyone elseās in the group so far. Pick thinks Aspasia needs to speak the fuck up with her words more than her muscles as of late because sheās not talking.
Ida- The absolute largest conflict of interest all in one person. Ida both reflects things that Pick severely, severely hates in this world, while at the same time being the one that most accurately reflects Anders as a person, the person Pick respects the most. This has led to a very very difficult understanding of Ida in Pickās eyes. Pick hates Ida, he hates that sheās so nice, self sacrificing, puts herself down, acts like the mom, and he hates clerics. He doesntā think she deserves to be lied to however. He may hate a lot of the things that Ida represents, but not a single person in the party has Picks -respect- besides her. Pick was going up that hill, and everyone could have yelled at him to turn back and he would not have, the only person that could (and did) convince him in that moment was Ida. Pick will argue with any member of this party but in the end he will do what -Ida- says to do. Thatās what she deserves. Not his kindness, not his love or admiration or friendship, but his respect. Heās respecting her because she right now is the closest thing to Anders. And damn if Pick hates that.
Callie- Quiet, curious, Callie. Pick thought her and Aspasia were lovers, heās still not really sure, but their inseparable nature reminds him of him and Anders- he would never get in between them. Except...for the fact that for whatever reason he fancies Callie. It might be just because sheās someone he can literally talk eye to eye with, but thereās more than that. He appreciates that she doesnāt have to talk a lot, he finds her care for animals endearing even if heās afraid of horses, and her abilities in combat are varied. Her use of magic frightens him, but sheās hard to read. He does straight up find Callie cute, attractive. In a way that he hopes isnāt creepy he likes...holding her hand and stuff? He thinks sheās very soft, he sees a kind of...goblin nature inside of her? Kinda like a little flame of passion that she keeps really really well hidden- but her understanding of nature, herĀ āgoing off aloneā ness..very goblin like and that draws him to her, and then she doesnāt have a goblins (admitedly, freakish) outward appearance. He likes her a lot, heās sad that she seems to pull away so often, he blames himself..? Wants to find a way to get through to her. Now that Callie has a wolf Picks childhood dream of being an Outrider was reawakened.
Siril: Big man. Pick does not understand why the hell Siril is here at all. He is by far probably the most out of place person in the group in Picks first impressions, but heās sticking around. He has been wanting to have an actual just good old getting to know you talk one on one with Siril since the very beginning just based on the fact that heās interesting! Pick has never seen a Firbolg before, theyāre so -different- as people and Pick is totally okay with that! He wants to talk about it! He thought maybe on that watch that they had together last game theyād finally talk but it seems that they most likely spent it in silence. Seeing Siril go from really aggressive to Jin to almost warming up to him, as well as warming up to Sia...hurt Pick a little. Not necessarily as jealousy, but perhaps something similar. Pick thought they had a lot in common, they were the new guys to the group and in Picks opinion he thought they were really theĀ āfreaksā. Theyāre the weird races, and he just feels like heās...missed out on a shot. He thinks Siril doesnāt really find him interesting and he really canāt place a finger on it but ever since he came to the party Pick wants to impress Siril. Thatās why he gave him space when it was clear he was annoyed, thatās why he went along and did as much work on the murder case as he could, itās why he -went- with Siril to see the widow and gave her all his gold. Itās why when Pick was asked by Siril if he was a good person Pick gave him a truthful answer ofĀ āyou are usefulā because truth is what Pick gives to people that he feels are deserving of a harsh answer. He thought theyād talk more since then and they really havenāt, and Pick wonders if all that time trying to impress Siril was for naught, he really doesnāt have the emotional maturity to figure out why heās feeling what heās feeling, but he just has those base feelings. Does heĀ ālikeā Siril, is heĀ āattracted?ā He doesnāt know how to process that, but he had an instinctual desire to impress him, to be seen as useful or interesting to him, and seeing him bond with other people that Pick wasnāt expecting him to (ie, not me, the otherĀ āfreakā) he feels...hurt by it.
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i got super emo today and was rereading a transcript of the winter chapters and actually properly absorbed the whole mentions of hisoka saying sorry to august, and there being the "im watching you, december" - apr. and ive got my thinking goggles ON. more points added to the chikage hisoka assassin cult each day. is hisoka december???? is chikage wearing his jacket??? is chikage april??? after all he SPECIFICALLY appeared in the my masters mesmerized by mystery event.... which is the winter troupe one where hisokas the lead..... like clearly hes not just itarus buddy showin up to support. anyways i realize that you're unable to answer any of what i say up here, its mostly just there to demonstrate ive got my thinking cap on SO. ill have to add something that u actually can reply to. i've been fiddling with this concept lately of tenma and yuki ending up at the same university bc i think like. these two are children with other passions than simply theatre and at some point they are gonna yknow. go off and do other things. i think itll be at a point where its good for them to do so and everything, so like, its not like theyll have left mankai completely but yknow. mb a more infrequent presence? and tenma will end up there around the same time as yuki bc he is a world famous movie star who maybe doesnt go to uni at the normal time. but he also does want to be normal i think. i 1) think itd be hilarious because you have this dynamic of yuki being like. why is this hack here. i am starting my cool fashion life at college... why is he here. its kinda weird that someone who knows me so well is here. and tenma is also like wow its also really weird that my roommate is here. yknow. and then everyone else is like "wow you two are besties aren't you" which they hate. but ALSO i think its abt like, you think you have to "grow up" and leave your found family but actually they are always going to find you back in some weird way. and everything in a3 is abt blooming with each other so like making your way Back There... its not a bad thing. something like that. ok that was my point 2) and however many # of points i had there as well lol... ALSO ALSO lately i have been thinking abt how the color of yukis eyes is the same as tenmas hair (i love juzas eyes as they are but if they were orange then he tenma and yuki would make a perfect secondary color trio....). anyways i think yuki would absolutely rebel against this. are u kidding me tenmas hair is the color of an anemic tangerine. me i have brilliant sunset eyes. we are nothing alike muku how dare you (and then muku apologizes so much that yuki relents but he is still internally furious and randomly threatens to dye tenma's hair later that week, to much confusion) but eventually its like... so they are the same color. so we are the same color in one way or another. so very many years down the line that is not gonna be an insult but a comfort. or something like that, im rambling, haha.
OWOWOWOWO HI HI HI
of course i can say nothing, i'm keeping my mouth shut. You have hhh, 5 events left to finally start act 2 main story so. so we'll see when we get there. You're closer to it than ever but. yeah.
And oooh i love the concept! Technically as the year pass you do see more characters go to uni and stuff (like on the JPN server the timeline is that 3 years has passed since the begining of the story, soā¦..) I could see the two of them go to the art university a lot of the gang is going to tbh, like, Yuki for fashion and Tenma for further actingā¦
"1) think itd be hilarious because you have this dynamic of yuki being like. why is this hack here. i am starting my cool fashion life at collegeā¦ why is he here." this is so funny bc with Tenma being older, Yuki being like "why are you here" would just have Tenma going "??? I WAS GOING HERE FIRST????" but yes everyone can see they're besties. and i do love the idea of them "making their way back there" sobs
on 2) THIS IS SO FUNNY. Yuki rebelling about the colors is killing me. Poor Muku just pointing it out and Yuki having to conceed.. it's so much.
This is really funny, thank you for sharing :3c
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