#Hümaşah Sultan

[humasahsultanimsworld]

Sultans and Their Colorful Clothes + Snowflake appearance on Hümaşah Sultan's dark blue caftan and tulle 2/2

[magnificentlyreused]

This golden tiara with green and orange stones was seen three times during the fourth season of Magnificent Century. It was first worn by Huricihan Sultan in the eleventh episode, then by Hümaşah Sultan in the twenty-ninth episode and lastly by Ayşe Sultan in the thirty-fifth episode.

[laleru]

✮ Hümaşah Sultan (Vildan Atasever) — Magnificent Century: Kosem Ep.28

[redrosecut]

Please someone tell me that they reused this kaftan later on and I just haven’t found it yet. It is too pretty to have been a one time thing.

[annabawritersdreamsideblog]

These two have my heart 💘

& I'm definitely including him in my original/basing a character off him. Loved him since episode 1. I want them to be together so bad and I'll try my best to give them the happy ending they do desperately deserve, yet I have a major issue to deal with. She (unfortunately I haven't come up with a name yet) is supposed to be long dead before the story even starts. I'm not used to saving characters— killing them off is much easier. And how do I stick him into the plot? Major writer problems here 😂😭 Let the thinking begin.

[kosemsultanim]

PERIOD DRAMA APPRECIATION WEEK 2024 | Day 4 (August 1st): Favorite Relationship → Hümaşah Sultan and Zülfikar Pasha (Magnificent Century: Kösem)

[sultanaswardrobe]

MAKE ME CHOOSE MEME | anon asked - Gevherhan Sultan's costumes or Hümaşah Sultan's costumes

[awkward-sultana]

Magnificent Century: Kösem + Faceless: Telli Hümaşah Sultan

[haticesultanas]

Sorry to bother you in this account, I would have a question about Ümmügülsüm Sultan, the possible daughter of Ahmed I. The relazione of Angelo Alessandri from 1637, Page 649 says: "Ha il Gran Signore di congionti per sangue quatro sorelle ancora, ma fuori di seraglio, essendo tutte maritate in visiri." And since I am not really speaking italian, I am not sure if "per sangue quatro sorelle" means full-sister or just a way to say sister (and so can mean half sister too). One of my followers - who says he speaks italian - says it means full-sister and confirms that beside Ayse, Fatma and Hanzade there was another full-sister of Murad IV. I mean while I have my doubts, Alderson also lists one Ümmügülsüm (wife of Halil Pasha) based on harem registers, who had the same amount of salary in 1639 as Ayse, Fatma and Hanzade, the daughters of Kösem (and some other women - possible daughters of Murad III had the same amount, while Atike and one Hatice possibly daughters of Ahmed I had less salary). Also, there is the known other register that you also mentioned on ottomanladies page, based on Tezcan: “A privy purse register from 1622 gives the names of five unmarried princesses, who may be daughters of Ahmed, Osman II, and even Mehmed III: Umm-i Külsum, Hanzade, Halime, Fatma, and Akile.” The fact that there was one Ümmügülsüm in 1622 who was still unmarried, and then in 1639 she had the same amount of stipend as Ayse, Fatma, Hanzade and the relazione mentioning that 4 (full)sister thing, maybe suggests that Kösem and Ahmed MAY had another daughter together, Ümmügülsüm? What do you think?

Hello! I guess my askbox on ottomanladies is still closed.

So, your follower is right; what Angelo Alessandri says in his relazione is that Murad IV has four full-blooded sisters who all live outside the palace because they are married. When I read this part, I simply assumed that the fourth princess was Gevherhan but we don’t have any information about her after Recep Pasha’s death in 1632. Then, I assumed he was wrong because it wouldn’t be the first time a European ambassador mistook half-siblings for full-blooded siblings.

About Ümmügülsüm, I have always assumed he was a daughter of Mehmed III’s or Murad III’s. I have never paid attention to her, as I’m sure you know from my posts on ottomanladies.

But you made me curious so I spent some time looking into this.

First, I think you meant Dumas when you mentioned that list based on harem registers because I have found it in Les Perles de Nacre du Sultanate. Alderson doesn’t list an Ümmügülsüm Sultan among Ahmed I’s daughters (unless I somehow missed it).

Secondly, I think there is a problem with this source: on page 62, the register is from February 1649 to February 1650. In Annex A, though, (page 461), she says that the same register is dated February 1639. So what is the truth? February 1639, because the register keeps saying “Şevval 1048”, and that’s February-March 1639 (you can google it). The mistake on page 62 is… weird, though.

Moreover, the list above is somewhat different from the transliteration she put in Annexe A. For example, on page 463 she says that the register says “Hümaşah Sultan merhum Nakkaş Hasan Pasha”, but on the list she put on page 62, the same Hümaşah Sultan is married to one Hüseyin Pasha. I don’t understand why she changed the source without addressing it— or is it just a typing mistake? I hope it is because I think Hümaşah Sultan was truly married to Nakkaş Hasan Pasha: Nakkaş Hasan Pasha was identified as married to one of Ahmed I’s aunts by the Baron de Selignac, and a letter dated 6 October 1642 by a Ragusian diplomat lists among Ibrahim’s aunts one “Humascie sultana moglie di Hasan Pascia [Hümaşah sultan wife of Hasan Pasha]”. In another letter, this one dated 7 July 1648, Hümaşah is identified as “moglie di Nachasc Hasanpascia Humasce sultan vedova [Hümaşah sultan, widow of Nakkaş Hasan Pasha]”.

If Dumas voluntarily changed Hasan Pasha into Hüseyin Pasha then I don’t know why she did it because contemporary evidence suggests that this princess called Hümaşah was Ahmed I’s aunt and therefore Ibrahim’s great-aunt (I won’t fault the Ragusian diplomat for not stating the difference because it wasn’t done often at the time), and was married to Nakkaş Hasan Pasha, who is called “merhum” in the harem register because he was deceased at the time.

Similarly, on page 462, it is listed one “Kameri Sultan merhum Sofi Bayram Pasha”, but on the list on page 62, she is called Fahri. Again, what prompted Dumas to change the wife’s name? Is it because Öztuna says that Fahri/Fahriye Sultan (daughter of Murad III) was married to Sofu Bayram Pasha? Then again, why was she called Kameri in the register? Is it a mistake from the clerk or did she have multiple names? Or did Dumas transliterate her name wrong? Or did she change the princess’ name into Fahri because that’s what Öztuna says? Interestingly, in the family trees in Annex B, she’s called Fahri again. The same Ragusian diplomat above also lists the wife of Bayram Pasha: “Vanni sultana moglie di Soffi Bariam Pascia”; unfortunately I cannot say what Vanni should be because it doesn’t sound like Kameri at all. It could sound like Fahri but… it’s a stretch.

Beyhan Sultan, Safiye Sultan, and Mihrimah Sultan are widows too but it’s difficult to identify them because their husbands are one “Mustafa Pasha”, one “Mehmed Pasha”, and a “Mehmed Pasha from Kefe”. I tried to google this Mehmed Pasha from Kefe and everyone says he was married to Mihrimah Sultan, daughter of Murad III. The problem is the sources of this claim (on those websites) do not say this. The Ragusian letter talks about a Beyhan Sultan married to a “Mustai Pascia” which could be Mustafa Pasha, but this is all I have to say.

I also would like to highlight that the princesses listed in the Ragusian letter are those who received gifts from the Ragusian diplomat so there could have been more, especially aunts.

As for “Atike Sultan Kenan Pasha” (who receives 9,900 aspers per month): she seems to be Ahmed I’s daughter Atike (also confirmed by the Ragusian letter, who lists her among Ibrahim's sister).

Now, about “Ümmügülsüm Sultan Halil Pasha” (who receives 12,900 aspers per month): I still personally maintain that she was an aunt and not a sister. I could not identify her, nor her husband Halil Pasha, but we have to keep in mind that we don’t have all the names of Mehmed III’s daughters. In the Ragusian letter dated 1648, there’s one “moglie di Hersechli Ahmet Pascia Iumi sultan [wife of Hersekli (? it could mean that he comes from Herzegovina) Ahmed Pasha, Iumi Sultan” (Iumi kind of sounds like Ümmi). It’s basically ten years later Dumas' list so she could have changed husband in the meantime but unfortunately, I couldn’t identify “Hersechli Ahmet Pascia”— if someone else has information about him, please do not hesitate to share (with sources, please).

I’m sorry this was so long and unhelpful, I was carried away :(((

EDIT: I have found the Ragusian letters in V. Miović - Per favore della Soltana: Powerful Ottoman Women and Ragusan Diplomats

[gulnarsultan]

hi dear! i just wanted to say i love your writing and that i'm really excited too see that you write for magnificent century as well, because no one does! i was wondering if you could write a quick little story about şehzade iskender (mc: kosem) and reader, the plot can be whatever you want it to, thank you so much for reading this! ❤️

Hello dear. I am so glad to hear that you liked it. You are right, there are not many articles for Magnificent century/Kösem. I will try to write as much as I can for these two series characters. I hope you like it.

You and Sehzade İskender met when you were very young. You were a young concubine who had just come to the palace and he was a boy who had just joined the Janissary Corps. As the years passed, you had become a real friend. However, after the first few years, İskender started to see you as more than a friend. He always dreamed of running away from the palace with you and starting a family with you. In fact, when you found out that he were a Prince, it was a big shock for both of you. At first, he did not want to be a Prince and fight for the throne. However, he started to think about the life he could provide you if he became a Prince and ascended to the throne. Soon, he started to plot with his mother Safiye Sultan and his sister Hümaşah Sultan. Safiye Sultan did not object to her son wanting you for himself. After all, she thought her son deserved everything. When you were chosen as Sultan Ahmed's concubine, he secretly took you away from the Palace. You started living in a secret mansion. You were afraid of what would happen next. You hoped that everything would end well.

[reallifesultanas]

Family tree of Mehmed III

Mehmed (1566.05.26. - 1603.12.22.) - Handan (~1568 - 1605)

Ayşe 1583-1632/9 - Destari Mustafa Pasha 1602-1610 * 2 daughters and one son, who all died young - Gazi Hüsrev Pasha 1613-1632

Selim 1585-1597

Şah 1587-1617/8 - Mirahur Mustafa Pasha 1604-1610 * three sons, all died young - Cigalizade Mahmud, son of Cigalizade Yusuf Sinan Pasha 1612-until her death * Mehmed (?-a. 1650), Mustafa (?-?), Karahoca Ibrahim Kethüda (?-a. 1650)

Ahmed I 1590-1617

Süleyman ~1593-1597

Nani believes she had one son Osman, who was 3 or 4 in 1600

Mehmed (1566.05.26. - 1603.12.22.) - Halime (~1568 - after 1624)

Hatice 1585-1617? - Mustafa Aga, one Yeniçeri officer

Mahmud 1587-1603

Safiye 1590-? - Davud Pasha 1604/1605 (consummated 1606)-? * Süleyman (after 1606 - after 1662)

Halime - She could be the wife of Tiryaki Hasan Pasha (1604-1611), but maybe she was unmarried until 1622. - She could be the wife of Budin Ali Pasha (?-1616?)

Cihangir 1598-1602 (identity of his mother is not known for sure)

Mustafa I 1600-1639

And Mehmed III had another daughter Hümaşah, but we dont know anything about her. She could be the wife of Tiryaki Hasan Pasha (1604-1611), or the wife of Budin Ali Pasha (?-1616?) or none of those.

Theories:

Ayşe: I believe she was the eldest daughter of Mehmed, and so the daughter of Handan. Mehmed got Handan after his circumcision in 1582 June, so they could start reproduction in August or so. In 1600 Nani said, the sultan had a daughter, who was 18 years old and that the sultan is thinking about her possible husbands. Based on ottoman calculations 18 is actually 17, so she was born in 1583. Back then Handan as a new favourite, gift of the beloved aunt of Mehmed, possibly was a soley sexual partner for a while making logical that Mehmed's first child was Handan's. And as Destari Mustafa seems to be the first Damad of Mehmed III's daughters, his wife should be the eldest Sultana.

Ayse: She survived her husband in 1632 but does not mentioned after 1639 in the register she was listed previously, which could mean she died between 1632 and 1639 or she moved back to the Old Palace, and so we should search for her in another register.

Halime: All we know is that she was unmarried in 1622. This could mean: she was too young to be married off or simply she was widowed. I personally think she was the wife of Tiryaki Hasan Pasha between 1604 and 1611, then a widow until 1622 (at least), or also the wife of Budin Ali Pasha until 1616.

Hatice: Actually the identity of her mother is not known for sure. She is referred to as Halime's daughter in one source, however, her husband's identity is wrong in that source, so maybe she was not Halime's but a random consort's. Her husband is quite low-level compared to others, so maybe she did not have a brother. OR the identity of the husband (yeniçeri officer) supports the original theory of her being Halime's. We know how Mahmud and Halime had a close relationship with the janissaries and then. Maybe Hatice had something to do with it through her hubby? True, her husband was a Yeniçeri leader only in 1616, and true, that we don't know the exact date of their wedding. The agha died at the end of 1616 and Hatice is lost from history. Maybe she died, maybe remarried.

For Hümaşah it is possibly she died before being married to anyone, or she may was the wife of Tiryaki Hasan Pasha between 1604 and 1611, and/or the wife of Budin Ali Pasha until at least 1616.

[humasahsultanimsworld]

Sultans and Their Colorful Clothes + Hümaşah Sultan's beautiful patterned green caftan

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These silver earrings with a pink stone was first worn by Mahidevran Sultan in the twenty-third episode of the second season of Magnificent Century. Two episodes later, they appeared again on Aybige Hatun. The earrings can then be seen on Gülfem Hatun in the thirty-sixth episode of the same season. They were also worn by Mihrimah Sultan in the fourth episode of the third season as well as by an older Mihrimah in promotional material of the same season.

The earrings become part of the plot in the thirty-seventh episode when they are used to identify Nigar Hatun as the kidnapper. However, Nigar does not wear them in the thirty-sixth episode when the viewer saw her commit the crime.

The earrings appear three times in the fourth season, first on Nurbanu Sultan in the eighth episode, then on Defne Sultan in the twenty-eighth episode and lastly on Hümaşah Sultan in the final episode.

[mc-critical]

Ibrahim and Hatice's wedding in the show is the grandest, happiest, most feastful wedding of the series, with as many celebrations as can be. It's obvious why, of course: given the show has the most "foreign politics" plots at this very point, we have to have separate moments of the ambassadors and the people of power acknowledging that whole ordeal, it's the first ever royal wedding we see in the series and it's both a payoff of so many episodes of development of Ibrahim and Hatice's story, a high culmination point, and a setup of the right upcoming close matter of the Jannisary rebellion and the future, more far looming (or that's how it merely looks like) issues of Hatice and Ibrahim's relationship (Gülfem's usual prominence is set aside for a bit to make place for Nigar); each wedding in the show signifies a major change to the status quo, but namely Hatice and Ibrahim's wedding accentuates that the most, as it doesn't just have someone permanently moving to a new place/castle (Hatice here and in E94, Nigar in E44-5, Mihrimah in E99 etc.), giving birth (Mihrimah to Ayşe Hümaşah after her own wedding, but Hürrem to Selim during Hatice's wedding) or getting wounded (Ibrahim during Hürrem's wedding, mirroring E10-E11 a bit) and new twists on established dynamics (not just the wed couples but also Mahidevran and Hürrem, SS and Mustafa, Hürrem and Leo in E17; Nigar and Ibrahim in E17 and E44-5; Hürrem, Hatice and Ibrahim, Hürrem and all the others in general in E42-3; Ibrahim and Matrakci in E44-5 etc.), but it also has a timeskip, showing the older kids to literally stress that a next stage of the characters' lives is coming forth. We get to see what a wedding is like for the first time, in its fullest and most detailed to accustomize ourselves even more in this world, so this may allow for the other weddings to lean on a more individual focus of the characters of the wedding themselves and what the wedding entails for them and those around them, the celebrations dimish and even the time the wedding's given could do so too depending on the narrative point of said wedding (more time could be given to the aftermath of the wedding than the wedding itself like in Nigar and Matrakci's case), formal weddings for ulterior, political purposes and alliances increase much more (while Hatice and Ibrahim's wedding is one of the biggest exceptions in the series and it's fascinating that we begin with it) and we get to have more bittersweetness or outright tragedy if the wedding is such for the characters. The weddings aren't only happy, they can also be like a funeral and we gradually arrive at a stage where we can actually observe that, not having it simply be hinted at (like Hürrem and Hatice's respective weddings to Lala Kasim's son and Mehmet Celebi were hinted at). The grander yet more interpersonal stakes and the bigger lean inside the empire are punctuated by the weddings as well.

{All that is to also say that it's sad that Hürrem claims that she won't get the wedding Hatice gets but Mihrimah will get it instead, when precisely hers and SS's wedding is the closest to Hatice and Ibrahim's in terms of massiveness, unprecedentedness (a big shift in traditions due to a love match as well, or rather, an even bigger one as a sultan hasn't freed and married a concubine for a looong time), structure (ceremony, feasts for the people as well as for those around the sultan and a major parallel event during the wedding, in this case Ibrahim's wounding) and feel (yes, a sorrowful element is around for everyone other than the married people this time instead of the everpresent happiness in Ibrahim and Hatice's wedding that contrasts only with Mahidevran's anguish that isn't even about the wedding, but an even bigger joy is presented for Süleiman and especially Hürrem; in E42 itself, the focus is all on the double joy with the ongoing princely circumcision and the surprising wedding in the very end, while E17 has an ongoing wedding and the surprising birth, so the focus shifts more), while Mihrimah's is a genuinely sorrowful wedding, more parallel to Hatice's E94 wedding than her E17 wedding instead.}

[redrosecut]

I thought Hümaşah Sultan’s green introductory outfit was something they only used once because it looked so unique to me. Nope, the kaftan part is actually the same green coat Hürrem wore at Mihrimah’s wedding. They just cut the sleeves off and turned the high neckline to a V-neck. Oh yeah, and of course Fatma also wore this coat, like nearly everything season 3 Hürrem ever wore. It is really impressive how altering some pieces and layering them with other things can make outfits look unique and new.

[ottomanladies]

kehribar-sultan: Well thakns four your appreciation, yeah, I really tried hard......But, first I would like to say some words about your comment: 1) I would like to get your acceptance and recognition of possibility that Safiye had all of these four daughters. I would stress out that ambassadors only talked about children of the Topkapi Palace who were notable in political life (case with Murad IV’s four full sisters). I do not agree with you, Ahmed Pasha (Mirahur in 1604) was named governor of Rumelia two times; firstly in 1614 and secondly in 1614. And he wasn’t Aga of the jannisaries. The Pasha you’ve mentioned is someone else. Beside, I found in Dumas’s 2013 book that Mihrimah was same as Mihriban (page 82, note 171). Anyway, she died in early 1610s I quess, and her husband remarried to her half-sister Fahri Sultan in September 1613. Anyway, I suggest that Mihrimah was the eldest, as I proved in citations that Mehmed had a two years older sister than him. Also, I (most strongly) suggest that Hümaşah was Safiye’s daughter, even the youngest, as her husband Hasan Pasha was placed in Divan of Ahmed I, and he referred to her as halem. 2) I didn’t get your comment about suggested (officially unknown) sons-in-law of Murad III, such as Boyali Mehmed Pasha, Siyavush Pasha (failed) and Serdar Ferhad Pasha. I mean, all that marriage negotiations in early 1590s prove that Safiye had more than two daughters. 3) I would suggest that Murad III’s daughters Saime and Fahri were his longest-living daughters, who died in late reign of Mehmed IV (Hümaşah, Beyhan and Hatice died in early reign of Mehmed IV). Anyway, I need to stress out that Fahri’s full name was Fahrihan (source: https://www.isam.org.tr/uploads/6595588ee2276.pdf - page 494 ; also there is Saime too – page 138) 4) I have suspitions that Murad III had one more daughter named Asüde Sultan, but I won’t claim it until I am sure it was his daughter.

I’m sorry if my answers are lacking but it’s just a lot of information to process fast and sometimes I get lost in the labyrinth of Ottoman princesses.

I never said Safiye couldn’t have been their mother. I said that since both Mihrimah and Hümaşah were important people in Murad III’s life, if he ever wanted to honour them he would have done it with his eldest daughters, hence Safiye’s.

I do not agree with you, Ahmed Pasha (Mirahur in 1604) was named governor of Rumelia two times; firstly in 1614 and secondly in 1614. And he wasn’t Aga of the jannisaries. The Pasha you’ve mentioned is someone else

Oh sorry, I copied my notes into the ask. I couldn’t understand what you were talking about until i saw my note in brackets lol. I thought it was him because Öztuna says that Mirahur Ahmed Pasha was, among other things, Janissaries commander and then governor of Rumelia:

=Dâmâd Mîrâhûr Ahmed Paşa (ölm.Ist.1618), izd.21.2.1613, izd.müd.5 yıl. Enderun, çukadâr 1612, hâsodabaşı, mîrâhûr 1613, yeniçeri ağacı 10.1613, vezâret'le Rumeli beyl.2.1614, Şâm 1617-8, mâzûl

I think I’m starting to see why you say that Mihrimah was Safiye’s eldest daughter. It took me a long time (bc i’m stupid) but I’m starting to see the light lol. If Matteo Zane is correct, and this princess was 26 years old in 1592 then there was definitely another daughter of Safiye who, for some reason, was unmarried at the time. If Mihrimah is Murad III’s eldest child then he definitely wanted to honour his beloved aunt (whom he honoured again when she died, burying her next to Süleyman).

I do agree that Hümaşah seems to be the youngest daughter of Safiye.

So, basically, Safiye’s children could be:

A princess (Mihrimah) born in 1564 circa

Mehmed III, born in May 1566

Süleyman, born in 1568-69 (the Venetians say he was two years younger than Mehmed) (he must have died before 1576, when another Süleyman was born)

Ayşe, born in 1569-70

Mahmud, born in July 1572

Fatma, born in 1574

Süleyman, born in December 1576 (and died in 1577)

Selim, born in December 1578

Hümaşah, born in 1580 (?) (though Sakaoğlu says she was born in Manisa)

Öztuna says that a Şehzade Mustafa was born in “1578?” and a Şehzade Osman was born in “1573” in Manisa. Osman was the eldest after Mehmed and died in 1587. Mustafa was executed by Mehmed III in 1595 and was the prince Canfeda had tried to save before being dismissed. Unfortunately Pedani didn’t source this claim, I would have loved to know more about this. These two princes though do not figure in “A COMPARISON OF SEYYID LOKMAN’S RECORDS OF THE BIRTH, DEATH AND WEDDING DATES OF MEMBERS OF OTTOMAN DYNASTY (1566-1595) WITH THE RECORDS IN OTTOMAN CHRONICLES”, so I don’t know. On the other hand, Karaçelebizâde says that the eldest prince executed by Mehmed III was born in 1585… which would make more sense.

Considering that Safiye was sent away to the Old Palace in 1583 and that the Venetian ambassador already reported that she could not have any more children (”seeing that she got ugly and could no longer have children”, dispatch dated 18 September 1583), I’d say that Hümaşah was the latest child she had (or maybe she had a miscarriage/difficult birth afterwards which sealed her condition). Selaniki, on the other hand, says that a 2yo princess died on 29 July 1585… maybe she was Safiye’s last child?

I didn’t get your comment about suggested (officially unknown) sons-in-law of Murad III, such as Boyali Mehmed Pasha, Siyavush Pasha (failed) and Serdar Ferhad Pasha. I mean, all that marriage negotiations in early 1590s prove that Safiye had more than two daughters.

Sorry about that!! So, I didn’t say anything because I thought that what you said made perfectly sense; I had nothing to add. I googled Ferhad Pasha and Wikipedia said that he tried to escape execution by appealing to Safiye. Unfortunately there is no source but it would make sense if he was her son-in-law. Where did you find that Nişancı Mehmed Pasha was governor of Rumelia in 1591? I swear I can’t find it anywhere.

I would suggest that Murad III’s daughters Saime and Fahri were his longest-living daughters, who died in late reign of Mehmed IV (Hümaşah, Beyhan and Hatice died in early reign of Mehmed IV). Anyway, I need to stress out that Fahri’s full name was Fahrihan

Saime stops being mentioned by Ragusian diplomats after 9 August 1670, while Farhi or Fahrihan (which I really like) is mentioned until 9 May 1679 as “Pahari” (unless it’s someone else but that’s the last time someone with a similar name was mentioned).

I’m going to read about Asüde Sultan soon, I’ve seen your message in my inbox :D