#ummi sultan daughter of mehmed iv

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I wish to give an opinion of daughters of Ibrahim. There is a great abyys in lack of prooves to demarcate daughters of Ibrahim, Atike and Gevherhan. At times, I have an opinion that Atike existed, and at another times that she didn’t exist. For now, I favour the other theory, but i will talk one day about that topic more detailed.

Archiv für Kulturgeschichte Band 77 on page 65, that at the very end of reign of Sultan Ibrahim, Valide Sultan received 125 okka per month, daughters of Murad III named Hümaşah and Hatice received 7 okka per month, daughter of Murad III Fahri(han) received 10 okka per month, Kaya Sultan 16 okka per month, daughters of Ibrahim Gevherhan and Beyhan 30 okka per month and daughter of Ibrahim Fatma 50 okka per month.

Why would Gevherhan and Beyhan receive less stipend than Fatma, as Fatma was adopted and raised by Turhan? Btw, Fatma survived her husband, read Sakaoglu (actually, Ulucay proved it first). Also, in Acta et Diplomata Ragusina, Fatma is mentioned in 1658 document as widow of Fazli Pasha, nothing else is said unfortunately…

Anyway, I would claim that Ayşe Sultan binti Ibrahim really existed. See this quote from work The rise of the Köprülü family (p. 129):

For instance, when Prince Mustafa, the first son of Mehmed IV, was born in Edirne Palace in 1664, Ayşe Sultan, Gevherhan Sultan and Beyhan Sultan, sisters of Mehmed IV, were called to Edirne Palace from Topkapı to join in the celebration for the new prince. This summons shows that some members of the sultan’s family still resided in Topkapı Palace after 1663.

I consider her being the own sister of Mehmed IV. Kütükoğlu was only one right, he was married to Ibrahim’s Ayşe. Ahmed’s Ayşe really died in 1656, in document Vakfiler su defteri there is one document mentioning Ayşe Sultan died before 1660 (if I recall). Her last husband was Ibsir Mustafa Pasha. Sadly, Ibrahim’s Ayşe was wrongly confused also as Ibsir’s wife. Her one and only marriage was with Suleiman Pasha Malatuk (Ermeni). Alderson confused her with Murad IV’s daughter.

In work Atik şikâyet defteri (7 numaralı H.1081-1083/ M.1671-1672) transkripsiyon, Mehmed IV wrote several letters in 1671/72 to his sisters Ayşe and Gevherhan, and their husbands. He doesn’t refer them as hemşirem, but it’s them.

Anyway, in work OSMANLI DEVLETİ’NİN 1660-1661 (HİCRİ 1070-1071) TARİHLİ SEFER BÜTÇESİ  (pp. 23-24), there were provided annual payments of some Ottoman princesses in 1661. This payment list does not refer to all of the Sultanas who were knowly alive in 1661, as Ahmed’s daughter Fatma Sultan for example. Only some of them.:

Hâshâ-i hazret-i Valide Sultan 12.000.000

Hâshâ-i paşmaklık-ı Ayşe Sultan 2.595.333

 Hâshâ-i paşmaklık-ı Fatıma Sultan 2.005.000

 Hâshâ-i paşmaklık-ı Rukiyye Sultan 1.235.000

Hâshâ-i paşmaklık-ı Safiye Sultan 1.005.000

Hâshâ-i paşmaklık-ı Beyhan Sultan 1.560.000 24

Hâshâ-i paşmaklık-ı Gevherhan Sultan 1.520.000

Hâshâ-i Ayşe sultan haseki-i merhum Gazi Sultan Murad Han aleyhi’r-rahmeti ve’l-gufran 100.000

Hâshâ-i paşmaklık-ı Ümmi Sultan 295.000

Hâshâ-i paşmaklık-ı Sâime Sultan 285.000

Hâshâ-i temlik-i merhum Kaya Sultan 1.250.000

See how Mehmed’s cousins (Murad IV’s daughters) and sisters (especially) received high payments, in difference to his aunt Ümmi Sultan and his great-great-aunt Saime Sultan. But, you would notice his sisters Ayşe and Fatma received the highest salaries; Ayşe the very highest as own sister, Fatma little lesser as adopted sister.

Sorry for the long wait, I have been incredibly busy these past few months.

About Ayşe binti Ibrahim, I would refer to this post, in which @rhaenahanzades found that the one married to Ermeni/Malatyalı Süleyman Pasha was Ayşe binti Ahmed I. I’ll paste the citation again, here:

“Soliman passa, Visir della Porta. Ritrouai anche alla Corte per Visir della Porta il Sr Soliman passa, stato un tempo Visir Supremo, dal quale fui all'udienza e lo presentai secondo le comissioni, il quale nell'honorarmi e trattarmi bene non uolse mostrarsi meno cortese degl'altri, offerendosi con molta humanità per ogni occorenza de publici seruitii. Questo Sr è assai noto all'EE. VV. per rellationi di diuersi loro ambassadori, onde a me non occorre tediarle in detto proposito. Dirò solo questo, che non le uol male e che sia personaggio da potterle fauorire, essendo ben uoluto da S. Mtà, col quale è ancor congiunto col uincolo di parentella, mentre la sua zia Aisce sultana tiene per moglie.” (“Dubrovačka akta i povelje” vol. 3, pages 661 and 662)

I believe Ayşe binti Ibrahim died pretty young and therefore never entered the Ragusian ambassadors’ lists of gifts.

As for Fatma binti Ibrahim, I must have missed when it was decided that she had been adopted by Turhan because I have never heard of this.

About the list of payments you’ve found, I’m not sure those princesses are identified correctly:

I have identified them based on seniority and the amount of money, which seems to me to be what their lands yield. I don’t think these are stipends.

Anyway, if we put the princesses in order of amount of money, I think it’d be easier to understand who is who:

Ayşe and Fatma stand at the top of the hierarchy because a) they’re older and b) they must have amassed a great amount of land during their lives. After them we have the sisters of the reigning sultan (Mehmed IV), so Beyhan and Gevherhan (possibly in order of birth??); then we have Murad IV’s daughters (Kaya is mentioned as deceased because she was at the time), and lastly we have two minor princesses: Saime, a daughter of Murad III and a non-haseki concubine, and Ümmi, either a daughter of Ahmed I or of Murad III as well. I say this because I think their small amount of land means they were not daughters of Haseki Sultans: if Ümmi is Ayşe and Fatma’s sister that’s the only reason she would possess less land than them.

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Mehmed IV of the Ottoman Empire + daughters who reached adulthood

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Hey ! Can you tell me more about Ummi Sultan and Ayşe Sultan ( how did you find her ? So Küçük Sultan neber existed ?) the daughters of Mehmet IV ? And how many childrens have Emetullah before 1675 ( the list of one of the ambassador ) thank you very much !

Giacomo Quirini or Querini (it depends) was the Venetian ambassador to the Sublime Porte from 1671 to 1675. His relazione is dated 1675 but was read to the Senate of Venice in 1676. 

Unfortunately I don’t have the actual relazione but only notes I took when I read it. In it, Querini talks about 4 children:

Mustafa is eleven, delicate but very intelligent, is called Efendi for his inclinations. The sultan likes to take him to the mosque sometimes

Ahmed is three

Aidé Sultan is seven and already betrothed to Culoglu Musahip

Hadice is two and is promised to Carà Mustafa Caimacan

(these are my actual notes)

Now the princes’ ages are right but Hatice’s is not because she was actually the eldest daughter and - more importantly - she was never bethroted to Kara Mustafa Paşa… she was, on the other hand, betrothed to a Musahip Paşa (whom she later married: Dâmâd Muşâhib Mustafa Paşa, also called Kuloğlu.. checks out, right?)… which is how I realised that he had mistaken one princess for the other. 

(about this I would like to digress a little: I still think that Hatice being seven is wrong, because she got married in 1675 when she was 15… I’ve read it somewhere but I literally cannot find where for the life of me. In any case, I still think that Hatice was the eldest child but often information about princesses is either scarse or wrong because they’re not interesting from the ambassadors’ povs. It’s quite unusual that Querini even gave their names!!)

The other princess was quite the enigma to me for such a long time because I knew that Gülnüş’ daughters were Hatice and Fatma Emetullah and well.. Aidé doesn’t sound like Fatma nor Emetullah… which is why I first thought to discard his information.

Then I remembered that there had been some misunderstanding in Ottoman historiography about a Küçük Sultan, which means Little Princess. While Küçük had been taken as a name, Uluçay first realised that it wasn’t at all but thought that the princess was Ümmi Sultan… but that’s where Giacomo Querini arrives with his relazione to solve the enigma: the little princess is called Ayşe (which does sound like Aidé) and she must have died in infancy because, as Uluçay says, Kara Mustafa Paşa never became a Damad (also because he was executed in 1683 but that’s another matter).

Caimacan simply means “lieutenant governor (vizier) from the old Turkish empire”, it is frequently found in European writings about the Ottoman Empire as a substitute of Vizier.

At the end of all of this, I have realised that Fatma Emetullah must have been born after 1675… which checks out as a) she got married in 1695 (pretty late, if she had been closer to Hatice’s age) and b) she died young in 1700 from post-natal complications.

About Ümmi Sultan, her date of birth is usually given as “before 1680″ and her death as 1720 (per Juliette Dumas), which makes sense as she’s supposed to have died “right before her 40th birthday”. As I have not read Querini’s successor’s relazione, I have no idea if Ümmi was Gulnus’ daughter too or not

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On this day, 10 May, in Ottoman history

10 May 1720 - death of Ümmi Sultan: daughter of Mehmed IV, she was born in Istanbul before 1680. She is called Ümmi Sultan in Silahdar Tarihi, Gülsüm Sultan in Tarih-i Raşid, and Ümmügülsüm Sultan by Surreya and Alderson. When Süleyman II moved the harem to Edirne Palace in May 1691, she’s indicated in a document as “Ümmi Sultan hazretlerinin”, the only niece in there. She was deeply loved by her uncle Ahmed II, who was the one who found her a husband. She married Silahdar Çerkes Osman Paşa on 15 December 1693, and they settled in Sinan Paşa’s Palace in Istanbul. With him she had Hatice and Fatma Hanımsultan. Ümmi Sultan died young, before her 40th birthday, and was buried in the Yeni Mosque.

10 May 1900 - wedding of Behice Hanım and Abdülhamid II: she was the niece of Sazkar Hanım and actually didn’t want to marry the sultan but her father forced her to. The wedding was held in Yıldız Palace. A year later she gave birth to the twins Princes Bedreddin and Nureddin.