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Friendship is something to be built up carefully, by people with leisure, it is an art, nature does not enter into it.
Nancy Mitford, The Pursuit of Love
#mitford#nancy mitford#quote#literature#author#writer#english class system#upper class#aristocracy#nobility#friendship#art of friendship#women#leisure#culture
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@svartalfhild
I caught this as well. And I’ve always felt it’s not an OR situation, but an AND situation.
A) I always assumed that it was the futuristic equivalent to ‘my dad works on the docks but I got into Oxford through scholarship. I don’t want the lads to know I’m on scholarship, so I’m staying silent and hiring a dialect expert. Within two weeks, I’ll have a better Oxford accent than any of you, even the locals.’
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B) it is concretely canon that Julian‘s father never thought Julian was good enough. Instead of learning to love his son for the person he really was, his father literally set out to change absolutely every single thing about him to mould Julian into the ‘perfect’ son. Like, down to his fucking atoms.
The emotional house-sized weight that this just suffocates Julian with almost made that stupid reveal worth it. That his own parents found Julian was so impossible to love, so broken, they had to turn him into a different person down to the molecular level?
Yeah, okay. I mean, that’s a special fucked up level of childhood trauma. How do you even begin to process this? How can you ever trust them— that if you do something else they don’t like, they won’t put you back in that chair to ~fix~? That is a special form of child abuse.
And Sid played that perfectly. It’s clear Sid hated the main reveal about Bashir (many of us did). But the emotional horror of knowing that the only way your parents could love you was to completely rewrite who you are? Yeah. Sid pulled that off.
But back to the accent specifically: the fact that both of these scenarios are not only possible, but equally probable? It’s a beautiful and yet subtle subtextual storytelling that leaves the audience room to fill in the conversations that must have taken place for this to happen.
Also, both scenarios are EXTREMELY British (even more specifically, ENGLISH). Upward mobility of class through education and accent is VERY common in England.
There are parents who will scold their children if they speak with a lower-class (poorer/immigrant areas) accent, even if they have that lower class accent themselves.
There are kids who will do anything to rewrite their own biography so that no one knows they’re really from the wrong side of the tracks by upgrading their accent to a more posh or less regionalised accent so they don’t sound like their parents.
I don’t know if this was the choice of the writer, the casting director, the actor who played his father’s acting choice, or even Sid saying, ‘You know what? Can we cast someone with a lower class accent?’ But it felt extremely intentional and EXTREMELY English. And bonus points of this was a combination of input from several people.
Regardless, this was a brilliant decision, and this seemingly tiny detail adds SO MUCH more to Julian and his identity.
Also, last thing I will say. I think it’s obvious that this issue between Julian and his parents has deeper ramifications considering Bashir is so strongly coded (and confirmed, depending on which writer you ask) as Autistic, and is canonically Queer (depending on the writer you ask).
These are relevant, fascinating and valid readings into the ramifications of neurodiversity and queerness needing to be ‘fixed’ for the comfort and convenience of neurotypical cis-hets before they can love their ~broken~ Autistic Queer child can hit home for a LOT of us.
I'm surprised that I haven't come across anyone else talking about how fascinating it is that Julian Bashir and his father do not have the same English accent. Like, the implications, y'all.
Julian sounds much more upper class than his father, which would seem to indicate one of two things, either:
a) Julian adopted his accent to deliberately distance himself from his father.
or
b) Julian learnt his accent at a young age at the insistence of his father to further his air of sophistication.
Either way, it certainly adds another facet to Julian's Parental Angst.
#I still hate their big reveal for him tho and I’m not going to change my mind.#julian bashir#star trek#ds9#deep space nine#English accents#English class system#upgrading class through education and accent#someone knew this was a peculiarly ENGLISH thing to do#accents#post accents#posh accents but lower class#neurodiversity#fucking cis-hets trying to fucking fix a brilliant and delightful autistic gay#neurodivergent#coded autistic#coded autism#coded queer#is it even coding queer when it’s so clear that Bashir is one of us?#alexander siddig#siddig el fadil
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Aro culture is appreciating this blog and the mods 💪
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#aro culture is#aro#aromantic#actually aro#actually aromantic#ask#mod rust#there's a chance we may be less active this month due to the Graduating College thing in a month#(and lowkey we have one summer course that didn't fit before we get the degree but shh)#(i am the academic class alter and if we had taken 18 credits this spring i would lowkey have actually died)#(if you can manage 18 credits you are much more abled and organized than our uh. y'know. highly traumagenic system with chronic illness)#(especially if it's 15 credits of engineering and 3 english for technical writing)#(fuck that)
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im taking a shakespeare class this quarter and for my first assignment i get to write about richard ii and i am beginning to feel genuinely physically ill from how excited this is making me
#i can also write about the sonnets but make no mistake if you give me the opportunity to write about richard ii. i will#ricky 2#ws#i'm not an english major and i'm not amazing at academic writing and this is a pretty high level class#so i dont actually expect my grade for the class to be the greatest of all time ever or anything#but like it's so. hard drugs into my system that i get to write about something my brain has been actively microwaving for months
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the problem with gaining knowledge is that i now have a new villain origin story.
so i've just BARELY started my victorian england research to try and be as biblically accurate when Doing Things and i'm closing in on the end of the menswear section of this book and i now know that william's costuming is DISASTROUSLY WRONG.
for starters by that time men cross-class were wearing black and darker colors a LOT of the time for a very practical reason. there was so much fucking SOOT in the air in towns that having a suit like we see him in for both 1880s flashbacks would be just impractical. by the time we see william the coat length is also going up.

^note how he looks like the "mature man" than the younger one.
length in the first flashback can probably be somewhat forgiven because it's a party but at the same time he and like, all the guys are now likely UNDER dressed. if a bitch is in an evening gown a man is in an EVENING SUIT!!!! color is STILL not fucking it.
^ the kinda shit he REALLY would have been wearing while getting rejected on main in 4k.
and you can be all like "oh!!! but what if they're like, not the kinda rich that can afford it!!!!" THIS IS WHAT YOU WOULD SPEND THE MONEY ON!!!! HE'S AN UNMARRIED MAN HE HAS TO BE A LEAST VAGUELY ON TREND OR YOU'RE FUCKED AND YOU CAN'T GET A DOWRY INFLUX TO THE ESTATE!!!! also there's this STAGGERING invention called TAILORING!!! the coats are getting shorter? well okay i'll just have my coat bottom brought up and my trousers brought in! shit you could even look into redyeing a suit like that if you were REALLY thrifty.
basically i am in hell but i'm also not at all surprised btvs is rarely ever good at the history stuff.
#train.txt#meta#knowing btvs loves to gesture vaguely in the direction of things does not make my suffering less#also i need to comprehend more of the ridiculous english class system i need to figure out if he's just loaded or has a title#this is VERY important!!!!! it decides a HUGE amount of shit about social standing and how people see someone in those upper circles#and like what he would and wouldn't be invited to etc etc
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it hurts me deeply to my core to not do the very best I can and get really good results. and it's likely going to disappoint people I love. but like. I think I'm gonna have to bite the bullet, accept that I'm not gonna pass some classes, and just focus on the other shit. goodbye literature class.
#romanian lit class every week expecting you to read 1 novel or 2/3 poetry books a week#english lit class expecting you to read 1 novel every other week#english lit class number 2 expecting you to read a novel every other week (yes this is a different one)#essay class expecting you to read 2 essays every other week#short story class expecting you to read a short story every week#comparative lit class expecting you to read 1 or 2 books every other week#any two of these in any combination could be fine I guess but still a bit much considering THESIS!!!!#which is why I've only been managing to perform well in romanian lit class and short story class and until now essay class (but I can't#do it anymore man I just can't.) I just need someone to validate how shit my curriculum is. I have other classes too btw.#this is just the literature ones. and no I did not pick any of this that's not how the system works here#you do not pick classes at will and you do not drop classes at will. you are just assigned classes and they are all mandatory#let's all kill ourselves (remembers I have people I care about who care about me) Let's actually not do that
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A lot of people ask how I learned how to write so well, and quite honestly the answer is that I paid attention in English class.
Yeah, no, there was practice but the things that people praise me the most about are not things you learn to add via practice, it’s things you learn by analysing blue curtains. It’s learning to analyse the small details and learning that those small details are what create an interesting story. “Sometimes a clock just ticks” A clock will always tick but you will only pay attention to the clock when you need to. Your character will not check their watch until they need to. The setting will not reflect the character unless the author makes it. The curtains are blue because the character is sad, because why else would I describe the world if it doesn’t have meaning?
Chekhov has a gun and it’s called basic reading comprehension skills. The bullet is good writing skills.
#reading comprehension is down and it’s actually affecting readers in real time#I have seen basic literacy skills go down in real time on ao3#please for the love of god pay attention in English class#education system
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Having the worst kind of sick day (one where I have to attempt to get MORE done than I do in a normal work day)
#but also it IS my fault for getting behind on my grading#but ALSO its the systems fault because everyone pretty much agrees that english teachers should have smaller class sizes
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i love finding people i went to high school with on twitter because so many of them will post things and then go "i can't believe they didn't teach us this in school 😱" like buddy, they did. i was literally in social studies with you during that lesson.
#there's this one girl#very well meaning and nice i think she just genuinely forgot#and she was like i can't BELIEVE the school system never told us about the trail of tears!!!!#bestie. you were in my group. we did a worksheet about it together.#or like. we had an entire lesson and assignments in english class#about identifying bias in articles
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not to make posts that i know for a fact will get screenshot to hell and back if i'm unlucky enough for them to blow up but man seeing 99% of posts on this website about "media literacy"/literacy in general is like oh we are notttttt getting serious conversations about education reform are we
#it's all children's rights and the education system is evil and fucks up kids who are seen as not good enough until we're talking about#reading/english class then it's an unalloyed good and a divine duty and if you struggle with it then that's a sign of moral decay in societ#ifer rambles#education
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me when the downstairs staff in Downton Abbey were devoted to the Crawleys, always thought they were right and had their whole lives revolving around them: ugh, this is unbearable, I hate the class system, JFellowes knows zero poor people
me when the downstairs staff in The Gilded Age are devoted to the Russells, always think they're right and have their whole lives revolving around them: so true, besties 💖💖💖
#the gilded age#i think it's more obnoxious on Downton for me because I'm also English#and i know what JF's attitudes actually are towards the British class system#if anything i think the Russell staff are actually more pro-the family than everyone except Carson on DA#but it feels less obnoxious
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Answering your tags in the children’s rights post, no, not where I attended school (US public school). I wasn’t even aware the UN made a document about it until now, which is unsurprising for the US but nonetheless aggravating
every day I learn something more horrifying about the US education system.
I'm pretty sure we read the children's rights when I was in grade 5 here in Australia? so I would've been 8 or 9 or so. I have no idea if this was standardised so really idk what I'm surprised about. but man that was something that built a foundation of autonomy for me as a kid that I could fall back on when I was scared... I have the right to safety. I have the right to xyz. seems important I think.
#recently learned from my american bfs that neither of them got in depth persuasive writing education#in their english classes at school or whatever#meanwhile thats a MAJOR and EXHAUSTIVE part of the curriculum here#and suddenly I'm understanding why the internet is full of americans with no ability to formulate an argument#it literally wasn't taught to you!!!!!!!!!!!!#that's fucking scary#when i say a major part of the curriculum here#i mean we were writing persuasive essays every year from year 7 onwards at the EARLIEST#we were analysing advertising and articles and media for persuasive techniques#persuasive analysis and essay writing was part of our final exams#such a backbone foundational part of the english curriculum here i cannot fathom what school is like without it#this is How i learned to write an essay. in persuasive format#that's an aside from the child rights thing but like#idk it's genuinely scary to me lmfao#what do you mean they didnt teach you persuasive writing. it explains a lot but what do you mean.#the system speaks#anon
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reading something that is oddly translated can truly ruin a book
#a lot of books are translated to spaniard spanish rather than a neutral one#so somethings can feel very out of place#the one i'm reading right now feels like it was translated from japanese to english to spanish#so it feels like a lot is missing in translation#because why would this restaurant server talk in a casual way with a client#even if the client is younger and the place is more casual like it would not happen#also just some wording that has me going ???#man is it too late to get into translating books lmao#curse my school teachers for never saying it was an option even tho i graduated being fucking bilingual#in a school were english classes were at most mid#(i know it's never too late to study something but i have me qualms against the way the educational system is built)#(but that's another thing all together)#anyways still enjoying this book but i am Not enjoying the translation#b.txt
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So, my little sibling who is in high school has been getting an influx of teachers who use ChatGPT to make their assignments and has been feeling like they haven't been taught how to do certain things correctly.
If anyone feels that they need tips for studying or some aspect of English/History, please comment because I'm making some guides to help them and I'd be glad to post it on here.
#english#writing#history#these classes are so overlooked in the american education system#when honestly i think these are the 'dont fall down a pipeline or get indoctrinated' classes#really theyre my fave subjects#i also have ADHD so I know how awful normal study guides can be#american education system
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Hey Quil do you have advice for what to do when you start your blog? I’m trying to figure this out and I’d really appreciate it.
I hope you’re doing well and that your class schedule sorts itself out! - Amethyst
Hi, Amethyst! Sure thing! Also still working on that schedule stuff--I have a few suspicions for what's causing the problem.
I think the main thing is to find people to follow and reblog what you like. You can follow tags and look through them, but it's quite detached and impersonal--a dash full of other people you've specifically curated is one of the big draws of the site. Tumblr's all about finding your people!!
Another is to block tags you don't want to see--which can be found by going to settings, general, filters, and then just typing in whatever you don't like (you can filter both tags and key words). And it doesn't have to be triggers (of which the most common formatting is "tw [thing]" or "[thing] tw"), but even just a show someone posts about you don't care about (I blocked ted lasso for that reason).
Also block people as much as you like--and again, not just if they're being genuinely shitty, even if they just have a character interpretation you don't like. This is YOUR blog and YOUR online space, tailor it to YOU.
Building a circle of people and finding what tags/people you want to block can take some time, so don't rush it. You'll get there! The main goal is to have fun!
Another thing you can do that might not be immediately applicable: some people have personalized tags for what they post. For example, all my asks are under "quil's queries", my art/writing under "quil's quill", and stuff about me/my life under "quil lore" or "quil's unholy underworld." You can come up with tags of your own--for those things, or for the queue if you use it, or anything else.
But that's optional! Really it boils down to post what you like, follow people you like, reblog what you like, and just engage! Send asks, compliment and share things, and have fun!
If there's anything specific you have questions about or don't understand, feel free to ask :)
#quil's queries#rosy-cozy-radio#there may be a learning curve but I'm confident you'll be fine#and I know you've got good intentions so any blips will also be fine#also regarding that schedule thing#i think it's 1. that I need to take another english class so the system thinks i'm progressing fast enough#2. i need to submit a form to be like actually i don't need to take another english class. the system's wrong#3. i need to figure out who to contact so i'm not listed as a 4th year senior. since I am. a sophomore#and being a 4th year senior in the system without being like 1-2 semesters from finishing my degree might be making things look weird#alas. i'm simply too good of a student it can't handle me </3#but anyway! welcome to tumblr! go wild!!
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The bilingual dialogue in eccentric romance is frying my brain which is strange because I don't understand Thai or Korean. It's almost like when I watch something with dialogue in sign language and they talk at the same time. The talking distracts me from the subtitles ...that are transcribing the talking.
#eccentric romance#side note but coming from the notoriously garbage English (as in England) language education system#I'm kind of jealous at the idea that everyone understands jay.#like if an exchange student who only spoke french but understood English was in my class at school there'd be a lot of ??? when they talked
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