#Endgame Rewrite

[novasjaneway]

Chapters: 12/12 Fandom: Star Trek: Voyager Rating: Explicit Warnings: Graphic Depictions Of Violence, Major Character Death Relationships: Kathryn Janeway/Seven of Nine, Kathryn Janeway/Miral Paris Characters: Kathryn Janeway, Seven of Nine, Miral Paris Summary:

An "Endgame" rewrite. On Stardate 53317 Captain Janeway was abducted by the Kellidians though eventually she was rescued. What if she was brought back to Voyager not so safe and sound? My first truly dark story.

[aeterna-auroral-avenger]

Avengers: Infinity's End

Chapter 29 - Fully Realized [AO3 link]

Summary - “A scenario is a description of possible events, meaning there is one overall picture with different minuscule events to achieve that singular overall picture.  In truth, when the Sorcerer spoke of one winning scenario, he meant there was one ultimate winning vine of reality created by different possible events or branches, varying in tiny ways, but they all led to the same singular winning reality.  Thus is the mystery and fascination of destiny.” AKA: Rory is faced with the hardest choice of her life.

[antvnger]

((Oh! What if after Bruce did the snap, he turns back into a human as a result?))

((ANON!!

The way I just gasped! Like your brain! Brilliant! The snapped reversed the Prof Hulk results and turned him back to Bruce and Hulk! It’s perfect!

You’re wonderful! Thank you! Big brain energy right here. You’re awesome!))

[bigtreefest]

Woah. Thank you for tagging me and sharing this.

A very interesting rewrite! I think we all agree that needed to happen, sad the revenge towards Steve hurt Sam, though🥺 angsty for sure!!

Broken Man: Angst(?)

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This is my other blog. I hope someone likes this🥺. Any mistakes are my own😁

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As an elder Steve Rogers sat on the bench after he gave Sam the shield everyone felt the air thicken.

A dark portal started opening in front of Steve, black tendrils appeared at the edge while spreading outwards.

A slender arm appeared aiming a WWII gun at him.

A female figure stepped out as the portal stayed open behind her.

She was dressed in a forties outfit. Hair done in a simple style. Looking at him she quirked an eyebrow as he looked at her in shock.

"Hello Captain America. You really shouldn't have gone back. "

He frowns slightly. "What do you mean miss? Do I know you? You look a little like Peggy."

Leaning towards him a little, she smirks.

"She was my great grandmother. Not from this time-line. You made sure of that! "

"I'm sorry, I wanted my dance."

She saw the others take a step forward.

"One more step gentlemen & you will have a mess to clean up!" Everyone froze.

Sam stepped forward hands raised.

"Can I ask who you are lady? "

Bucky spoke up as well. "And why do you have a gun pointed at him? "

"Story time! The Steve Rogers from my time-line decided not to go back as he actually thought about the children she already had with someone else." She looked at Bucky with fondness. "And he didn't want to break the promise to you about till the end of the line. He was selfless. Unlike this Steve Rogers who didn't care about his best friend! Who didn't care about the children she had from another man! HE CHANGED THE TIME-LINE FOR HIS OWN SELFISH NEEDS!! If you really cared for your Peggy you wouldn't have gone back! If you really cared for the man that she chose & the children she had with him! You wouldn't have gone back!" She wiped a stray tear away.

"So you're going to kill me? "

Giving a humorless chuckle she leaned closer to him to whisper in his ear.

"Death would be merciful for you. What I'm going to do will just crush you." She took a strep back towards the portal smirking. "Why else am I dressed like this for? I'll be seeing you soon Steve you just won't see me. "

With that she steeped through the portal & disappeared.

The others rushed forward to check on him.

He let it a loud gasp as tears filled his vision.

Sam noticed his wedding band disappear as he looked at Bucky before kneeling down in front of him.

"Steve?"

Blinking he looks at him before smiling slightly with sadness in his eyes.

" I couldn't come back Sam. No one would help me or believed me. Except Howard. Even he could only do so much. Pym refused to help. Peggy left me, accusing me of stepping out on her. I would never do that. You have to believe me."

Sam looks at him sadly.

"I believe you Cap."

Bucky swallowed hard at seeing his friend heartbroken as he placed a hand on his shoulder. "How about we go for a coffee & some apple pie?" Nodding he stood.

"Sam, can you take him to the car. I'll be right there." Bucky went to Bruce. "We need to find out what happened. Try & get a hold of Pym."

Bruce nods. "If all else fails, maybe Scott will know."

"Thanks Bruce. We'll see what Steve has to say & try to find out what that woman did exactly."

Across the lake with a Wakandan telescope in hand, a smirk on her face. She watched a broken Steve Rogers go to a car with Sam beside him. Lowering the telescope she sighs softly.

"The time-line is somewhat fixed as best as I could."

Her doppelganger stepped beside her.

"You could have gotten him to come back here from the past. Why didn't you?"

"Because this one was deserving of what he got. He only half heartedly looked for his best friend back then. Even with the knowledge he had of where he was. He still didn't put the full effort in. He could have gotten Stark to help him. It would have changed everything! But, he decided to keep putting it off & putting it off." Bucky's doppelganger stepped beside her placing a kiss on her temple while putting an arm around her shoulders.

"It's alright love. I'm with you."

"If I wasn't in love with my husband..."

She smiled at her. "There would've been a chance you and that Bucky met. But, I don't want to meddle anymore. This was my last stop before going home." She took her hand. Take care of yourself."

"I Will. You also."

Bucky chuckles.

"We will. We have a family to start."

Opening a portal they both step into it & disappear, going back to their time-line."

Taking a deep breath she looks out across the lake watching the car drive off thinking.

*Should I tell them? *

"One day. Maybe." Turning, she walks back towards her car feeling bad for Steve in a way yet at the same time she doesn't.

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@barnesfanatic @fantasiesinflight @buckysburdens @buckyalpine

[samcats]

Mike and Wills friendship vs everybody elses

I’m sick of people acting like Mike and Wills friendship is platonic when 1. One literally had a crush on the other and 2. None of the other friendships are treated the same way Mike and Will are throughout the seasons so let’s go over them!

(This is gonna be a long one!)

Season 2 & 1

First off, in season 1, the show focuses on how Will going missing effects Mike the most out of all his friends. Mike is the only one to notice Will isn’t at school the day he goes missing. Mike is the one to come up with the idea to go out looking for him. Mike only keeps El around when he realizes she can help find Will. Mike is the only one that’s focused on after they find Will’s “dead” body. Mike is the only one out of the party members that holds proper hope that Will may still be alive.

In season 2 he was the only one that went outside of the arcade to check where Will had gone. He was the only one that noticed Will was being extra quiet that day at school. He panicked when he couldn’t find Will, “Will what’s wrong? I couldn’t find you, are you hurt? I’m gonna get you home, okay? I’m gonna get you home”, He purposely volunteered himself to go check on Will and then proceed to stay with Will in the hospital for days afterwards. He was the only one out of his friends that stayed with Will in the shed when he was possessed.

Edit: also wanted to point out how in the crazy together scene when Will told Mike about the mindflayer he said “just please don’t tell the others okay? They wouldn’t understand.” Implying that Will trusts Mike the most and that he thinks only Mike would understand what he’s going through.

& Will only yelled Mike’s name when he was having an episode before the crazy together scene happened. He didn’t yell Lucas’s name or Dustin’s or even Jonathan or his mums, his first instinct was to call Mike for help. Both of these things furthermore prove my point that their friendship is different from the others and they’re much closer

Again, the show focuses on Will and Mikes friendship the most this season. Not their friendships with Lucas or Dustin or anybody else, just with eachother. None of the other friendships in the show have done anything like this. Hell none of the friendships in the show ever GET as much attention and focus as Mike and Will do throughout the seasons. They are treated so differently. Still don’t believe me?

Season 3

One of the most iconic Byler scenes is the rain fight scene. Now I'm not really gonna talk about how obviously romantic this scene is by itself. But how it contrasts Will and Lucas's apology scene. The contrast between these two scenes is such a huge piece of evidence to me and I'm surpsired I don't see it around more

(Thank you to this video for saving me while I was trying to find the scenes https://youtu.be/u-rLx10eROw?si=vdGoQNtnXU103iZt )

Here’s the two scenes mixed together for reference:

Byler’s fight

In the Byler scene, it has buildup. Will getting mad and then bursting out of the room, Mike follows him while Lucas stays behind. Once they get outside, the lighting is dark and blue. The music playing in the background is somber. The way both characters talk and act makes you know that this is a serious scene. The aftermaths of Will going to his house and crying as he destroys castle Byers. And Mike and Lucas biking out to find him in the rain. You could make the argument that Lucas being there makes this scene bad proof, but it focusing more on Mike then Lucas tells you otherwise.

Lucas’s apology

It’s super rushed, you barely even notice it. It’s super random and isn’t focused on at all, it just starts with Lucas saying he’s sorry and Will saying it doesn’t matter and it’s pretty much over. The lighting is bright, our minds are more focused on trying to get ready to trap Billy then the actual conversation they’re having. Neither Lucas or Will react to it afterwards. You could literally skip this scene and you wouldn’t miss anything.

So why have such a useless scene in the middle of nowhere?

The Byler rain fight is such an important scene to show how Mike and Wills friendship has gone downhill, to show the change between children and teenagers, and also to hint at Will's sexuality. The Lucas and Will scene is just so useless and random and could've been left out, but the way it contrasts the Byler fight scene makes me think that its only purpose was to show the difference between Mike and Wills friendship together vs anybody else's, and nothing else. Because why else have it there? If Mike and Wills scene wasn't meant to have a deeper meaning, then why make it as dramatic as it was? Why build it up the way they did?? If it was platonic the scene would've been more similar to the Lucas scene and/or toned down a LOT.

It's undeniable that the Duffers where trying to show us something with these two scenes

Season 4

You can tell there’s clearly tension between Mike and Will when they reunite in the airport, which is very odd. Mike and Will are best friends, and again, Mike wouldn’t act this way with any of his other friends. He didn’t even act this way with El

Mike then later admits that he was being an asshole to Will, and we get that beautiful “friends. Best friends.” Scene.

Now, I want you to rewatch that scene and pretend that Will is Max or Lucas or Dustin or Erica or Steve or Jonathan or anybody Mike is friends with. But you can’t. It just feels too wrong and too romantic, doesn’t it? It seems weird as well, because we know full well Mike wouldn’t say something like that to any of his other friends. He’s never had a conversation like that with any of his other friends, either. This is because they’re just that. Friends. So why should it be any different for Will and Mike?

This is the same for any scene with Mike and Will. Season 4 or not

And if you seriously cannot notice the difference between Mike and Wills friendship vs anybody else’s, you need to do a rewatch

Anyways, there’s probably more stuff I could add but I’m gonna leave it at that for now. If you have anything to add leave it in the comments! Thank you for reading

[misterfibbly]

If Mileven is supposedly endgame, then why do we get ZERO moments from them together this season?

There are absolutely no scenes of them together, just them alone, having a moment or being couple-y in a way that doesn’t have either of them faking or lying to each other.

The first thing we see with both of them is El writing a letter to Mike, telling him about her life in Lenora, lying to him about it (what a great way to start off the season!! /s). Okay, but let’s give El the benefit of the doubt, maybe she’ll tell Mike as soon as they see each other, right?

Wrong.

Now, let’s get back to my original point about how they don’t have any scenes alone.

There’s a couple of scenes where we get them greeting each other, kissing (notice how Mike’s wearing sunglasses. Who’s to say he doesn’t have his eyes open under those? It certainly wouldn’t be the first time).

Also I’m not sure if it’s just me who sees this, but why does it seem like they’re trying to be as far away from each other as possible during that kiss?? Like lean into it a little if you really want it to seem like you like each other.

Oh look! We immediately see Jonathan in Will in the background (and Argyle in some frames) in a scene that’s supposedly a romantic reunion between Mike and El.

Mike is literally being DRAGGED right now, if he’s the one who got out of the car first, shouldn’t he be walking a bit more in the front? Oh and, of course, Will is in this scene too.

Will standing next to them as El lies to Mike about her friends. Will trailing behind them as they skate. Will eating with them. Will, Will, Will.

But wait — there actually is one scene where Mike and El are alone.

The fight! The only scene with just them, and the only scene where they show strong emotions for each other. Except it’s just El being angry at Mike, which she has every right to be, and she’s sad too. Mike seems distressed but he’s not nearly as upset as she is, and he’s showing absolutely no remorse either.

Even in the “love confession” scene, Will right there, and he’s the one who tells Mike to say “I love you” earlier in the van, Mike didn’t come to this conclusion himself, something he would have done if he really meant it and wanted to say it.

How the other couples are different

Jopper - Joyce spent the whole season looking for Hopper, Hopper spent the whole season missing Joyce and hoping she’s okay. Their reunion had emotional music playing they hugged for a long time and they kissed eventually too. The look in their eyes alone showed how much they care about each other.

Lumax - even though they were broken up for basically the whole season, they never stopped caring for each other and being there for each other. Lucas made sure Max was okay and continued to protect her. Max started to let Lucas back into her life and expressed that she needs him.

Even Jancy - they were separated for the whole season but we still got some lighthearted moments between them. They ranted to their friends about each other, and their meeting at the end was genuine and full of love.

Meanwhile, Byler…

They fought, too.

But they quickly made up.

I would add more pictures if I could, but my point is, Byler spent the whole season rebuilding their relationship. Mileven spent the whole season ignoring their issues. Byler had multiple heart to hearts, they continued to listen and understand each other, they worked together “as a team”.

[adrenalineeyes]

obviously the best headcanon for george's relationship with thomas when he grows up is the one where george is also gay and he looks to thomas for advice/community/understanding/etc. be it in person (he can move to the us) or through mail

BUT consider the second best, and debatably funniest, headcanon for their relationship in the future: which is basically the bertie & his gay cousin dynamic. like, george is straight and marries a nice girl and everything, but he's a sensitive, kind person, who doesn't treat thomas' sexuality the way robert did (with tolerance but irresponsibility and disregard for thomas' feelings and privacy) or thomas' ex-coworkers (poking fun, using it against him, outing him left and right, not understanding how hard it is for him, etc.). instead, he explains to his wife that the reason why he still keeps in touch with his once servant, is that thomas was the one who spent the most time with him throughout his childhood, allowing him and his siblings to ride on his back for hours at a time while his mother was supervising the estate and going out, often out of town, other adults not being much less busy, and the endless stream of nannies not being very interested in playtime. he waxes poetic about how kind thomas' smile was, and how he was the only adult who was never, ever annoyed at them, not even slightly, who seemingly always had time for them despite his many duties, who has never spoken a single ill word or made an irritated sigh towards them out of tiredness. how, one day, thomas left for good, and he asked his mother why would thomas choose to leave downton when they had so much fun playing together, and his mother said "because he found a person who would make him really happy, and that person lives in america, so they left to be happy there, together". how he taught himself how to write so that he could write to thomas in america, to ask him what was so good about that person, and then what was so good about america, and then what was thomas doing exactly, and then they just kept in touch. thomas never revealed the identity or gender of that person, not even when george discovered that you could fall in love with girls, and started to ask thomas for advice (he would never give his sisters that ammo), since apparently he was so in love with some girl that he moved across the ocean for her. thomas gave him some great advice, although george did find it a bit, well, vaporous at the time. at some point, george discovers gay people (insert your favourite scenario here), and has his hmmm moment, after which he puts all of his writing skills into the effort of helping thomas put his trust in him in regards to his sexuality and choice of partner. having perfected the art of discussing thomas' private life in their letters, he tells his wife (obviously with thomas' consent) about the amazing home that they have built together and about their role in their local community and about how amazing and brave thomas is to have lived through what he did and come out on the other side of it as such a considerate, emotionally developed person, and how much he admires thomas and treasures their correspondence as a genuinely important interpersonal connection in his life, and will never allow anyone who wants to stay in his good graces to disrespect thomas.

TLDR; george & thomas = bertie & his cousin, allyship headcanon 4lyfe

[holleighgram]

So, go easy on me. This is my first time singing/recording/editing/mixing anything-- let alone posting it, but I really wanted to participate in March Caprice this year. I wouldn't have been able to even do this much without the incredible @projectdestati lending me their sensational talent for the accompaniment.

I hope one day to re:record this piece sometime down the road when I've got a few more collaborators (and can afford a decent microphone), Hopfully by then, I'll learn how to mix, or can afford to pay someone to mix it into an actual track. For now, there are 2 versions-- one with lots of nerdy call backs and the other that's a little more simple and .... tidy.

All that to say,

I rewrote the lyrics to Hikari to reflect the themes of Kingdom Hearts a bit better. Hikari has always hit a bit different than Simple and Clean, for me and I just wanted to sing along, so I made these lyrics. Hope you enjoy :)

Lyrics:

Been having dreams, At least it seems That way… How much is real Of what I feel And say?

Was I reckless diving in so deep and believing you would follow me, And dive in after? Was I wrong all along ? You and me weren't meant to be :( How can I face what lies ahead? How is this the path that my heart led?

And now dawn is breaking and soon you’ll be waking This that path I am taking Will lead me back to you. Hearing the dark call, I’ll fight it with my all Keep shining bright, Cause you’re my guiding light.

~Break~

Now back to back, We walk our paths, my friend But when we meet My hearts will beat again

Never thought that it would end like this-- With you and me facing the great abyss Though doors are closing Pick a side, you and I, we’ll get by Cause you’re next to me, we are the key we always were. Take my hand, And we’ll go together

~Break~

And now dawn is breaking and soon you’ll be waking This promise we are making Is like the one we made while Watching the stars fall-- I promised you my all. I’ll stand and fight For you, my guiding light

Slowly, The pieces come falling into place, and we’ve landed standing hand in hand. Regardless of heartless, I know that we’re prepared for this fight. You’re my guiding light.

Slowly, The pieces come falling into place, and we’ve landed standing hand in hand. Regardless of Darkness, I know one day we'll set this all right. You’re my guiding light.

[kairithemang0]

Can I just say that it is a CRIME that Sora isn't on Riku's station of awakening but ANSEM IS???? Nomura the next to we see it we gotta have 1 an updated Riku design on it and 2 Sora front and center on there

[grishaverse-chaos]

hmmm something about dominik haunting the narrative in king of scars. everything nikolai does is at least a little bit for him. he learns about the life of average ravkan people by meeting dominik's family. he starts gaining influence in politics just so he can improve dominik's life. and then he promises dominik that he won't let ravka break him.

that promise fucking haunts him. it follows him wherever he goes. it's the driving force behind everything he does, every step he takes to heal the centuries-old wounds in ravka. it's what drives him to do better, be better.

dominik is always there, in the back of his mind: this country gets you in the end. always pushing him to do more, because he couldn't save dominik and so he has to save ravka (for dominik) (because he promised) (because he loved him)

[porcelain-dionysus]

Steve’s Endgame Ending fixed

What if at the end of Endgame when Steve is returning the stones, he has to give up something he loves, right? So what if he gives up his super-serum effects (an au tweaked and borrowed from @growingpaynes-art ), and turns back into pre-serum-Steve? A list of reasons why I think this would work:

A) Straight off the bat it’s easy to keep Steve in the MCU with Chris Evans’ contract ending if they replace the actor who plays pre-serum-Steve (obviously with a guy who looks similar to the first movie, but without the CGI). I know people might be confused why he looks different but the MCU’s changed actors before and it’s not the hardest stretch of the imagination. Also thematically it’d be cool to have Steve be literally unrecognisable to the audience.

B) I think a lot of writers for the Avengers are so focused on writing ‘Captain America’; ‘bland, stoic, with no sense of humor’, that they forget about Steve Rogers; the young disabled man who would put his life on the line to fight fascists. This would be a great way to get back to the basics of Steve’s character and show the audience who he truly is.

C) Honestly it would just be nice to show that Steve is just as righteous and brave with his disabilities, something not often shown in media. Even the MCU likes to focus on Steve’s asthma and ignore that he actually was disabled. (which i’ll touch on in a second).

*and now for some more headcannon-y stuff*

A) From screenshots from the movie, and a list at Disneylands Tomorrowland exhibit, the canon list of Steve’s disabilites and health problems are:

Asthma

Anemia

Diabetes

Color-blindness

Arrhythmia

Scoliosis

Chronic colds

High blood pressure

Easy fatigability

Heart trouble

Sinusitis

Fallen arches

Partial deafness

Stomach ulcers

Pernicious Anemia

Astigmatism

Nervous troubles of any sort

History of; scarlet fever, rheumatic fever

(Jesus Christ Steven)

B) It’d be cute to see Steve actually be able live with his disabilities, unlike in the 30’s. I cannot stress how much eugenics there was back then (and still is now, but WAY more casually acceptable back then). Even the actual Captain America storyline reeks of it a bit; experiment on a disabled man to ‘fix’ him and turn him into a soldier. However in the 21st century imagine if he could get the help he actually needs! Obviously a lot of his stuff is chronic, but he could actually live with it instead of just surviving like he would have done. And be able to afford them, unlike back in the Great Depression. Back braces, inhaler, mobility aids etc. It’d be nice to see a disabled person living with themselves as the HAPPY ending, instead of as a tragedy as it’s usually played.

C) The story of him actually seeing worth in his old (new?) body and himself instead of just a vessel for Captain America. A self-acceptance arc. Being able to retire in peace without anyone recognising him as Captain America without having to give up his life in the 21st century.

D) The Smithsonian exhibit is so closely tailored to his propaganda persona that it fails to acknowledge him as a person. I wouldn’t be surprised if the general public has never even seen a photo of him pre-serum, or knew how bad his illnesses were besides ‘just asthmatic and skinny’. He could easily walk around and not be noticed by anyone.

Tldr: Steve’s proper ending in Endgame should have had him return to his skinny form in exchange for the stone, and him being able to retire to finish art school in peace.

[aeterna-auroral-avenger]

Avengers Infinity’s End

Okay so for anyone who cares, I’m curious…

There’s 9 chapters left, I believe, so keep that in mind.

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((Oh good question!

I was working on my Endgame rewrite, and I was wondering if I should leave Prof Hulk as is or rework that aspect. I mean, he snapped his fingers the first time because he could handle the gamma radiation and what not, so I was wondering if I changed Prof Hulk back to Bruce/Hulk then how would the first snap work…who would do that part? And then I wondered what you guys thought about Prof Hulk.

And before you ask, yes, Tony lives in my version.😎

But yeah, that’s why. I was working on that and then I fell down a mental rabbit hole chasing this thought.))

[chi-the-idiot]

Started reading Waverider.

Dropped it immediately because its bad.

My disappointment is unmeasurable and my day is ruined.

[itsjustbyler]

Okay, this will be the first one because I still think it's insane and still no one talks about it.

At the beginning of the season we begin to discover that Lumax and Mleven's relationship is experiencing problems. Lumax clearly ended and Mleven started out apparently well, but we discovered that it was all a facade and they enter a gray area until the end of the season.

Unlike Mleven, who spends most of the season apart, we see that Lucas and Max have started to get closer and still care about each other, I would even say they love each other.

Now, we know that duffers prefer to "show" and not "tell". I saw people saying that Mike's difficulty in not being able to say "I love you" to Eleven was due to the plot.

But why? Why the need for an I love you affirmation if the only couple that needed it has already broken up (stancy)? Why, if we are seeing in the same season a couple with a similar situation showing us how to be in a relationship where you love the person without having to say it out loud?

This all continues until the end and that's what my original post was about. Mike and Lucas, both in a similar situation. Both thinking their girlfriend is going to die.

On one side we have Lucas, calming Max and saying that everything will be fine, screaming for help, crying at the risk of losing her. He doesn't say "I love you" but it's clear to us. He just knocked out Jason and his strength was when he saw Max starting to levitate and realized he was going to lose her. Lucas doesn't need a big monologue about how much he loves Max for her to simply know that he loves her and will stay with her until the end.

And then we come to Mike. Mike who saw his girlfriend crying in front of her because he doesn't tell her he loves her. Mike, who didn't have the original idea of going after El, even though he knew he could go months without seeing her, his initial idea was to go to Hawkins. Mike who repeats several times throughout the season that he feels inferior in the relationship and that he expects to be left at any moment rather than repeating how much he likes her and needs to tell her that.

Mike, who is also seeing his girlfriend almost dying and... needs Will to tell her he loves her? If it weren't for Will telling Mike to talk to her and remembering the statement he made to Mike moments before, would he not have said anything? El without saying anything, even though she had the vines in the same position they were in a few minutes ago when she was talking to Vecna. She doesn't say anything, she doesn't smile. And Mike lies. We know that in some parts he lied.

Why? Why choose to play the two scenes so differently if we were supposed to believe that the two couples were completely in love.

And then we go back to the fact that Eleven witnessed all of this. The contrast, what it's like to make someone feel loved at the worst moment in their life without having to say I love you. She understands, she's not stupid.

[autumnrory]

i rmr when all the initial meta around endgame was coming out people were talking about steve being depressed and whatnot and it's like well yeah but he's BEEN depressed, like he woke up alone in this century and he kept going, now i can understand it being worse this time after finding a family and getting bucky back and losing them all except of course that's not why endgame steve was on about so like......the people writing meta were trying to connect these things that of course weren't really there on screen because that simply wasn't our steve

but i think it really could've been SO interesting to see this is the thing that finally makes steve stay down like he's lost so much and he just CAN'T keep fighting like i get some people think that's what they were going for but considering the ending......it's really not. and so i'm just thinking about a version after iw, maybe he gets some of the thor treatment except not turning his depression into a dumb fatphobic joke lol and maybe nat and others are trying to get through to him and it just doesn't work and then we get some flashbacks (which you could have done for all the original avengers actually which would be particularly important for bruce and nat and clint who did not have their own trilogies) including his mom telling him "you always stand up" and THAT being the thing to finally get him moving like it would've been such a perfect way to finally show sarah rogers some respect and ACTUALLY show steve really struggling instead of whatever they tried to do with him in that movie