#Dissomei

[anti-rq-gumi]

radqueers saying "antis putting dnis on a flag is stupid, you can't gatekeep a gender :/" and then being like "umm.. transid creators have rights to boundaries.... you can't recoin transids as desirdae terms if the creators don't want you to!!" is so telling

Right???

Term coiners have boundaries that should be respected no matter what community they’re a part of. At the same time, those boundaries don’t extend to terms other people have coined. It’s not that difficult a concept to grasp.

[anti-rq-gumi]

The Ciel? The girlfriend abuser? Vagueposting about me??? I’m so honored! Let’s dissect this response.

Here’s my entire post. You didn’t screenshot the entire thing and talked about things outside your screenshot, which just serves to confuse the audience.

saying this to someone’s boundary is INSANE. “your boundary isn’t valid because I want to use your terms without associating with you!”

That kind of boundary isn’t reasonable because it extends outside of the coiner’s jurisdiction. Since again, transID and its alternatives have different fucking definitions, this makes trans-x, disso-x and desir-x… different fucking terms. So if you coin trans-x and someone else coins disso-x or desir-x, they are not crossing your boundaries around term stealing.

if you antis seriously want to use a transid label that bad that you have to have to steal the term from the original owner, maybe you should think about some things.

Radqueers do not own a monopoly on the experience of feeling atypical dysphoria?

What do you think happens when a radqueer who feels atypical dysphoria leaves the community? They don’t just stop feeling that. There are also people who feel atypical dysphoria who have never entered the radqueer community in the first place and don’t want to. They might go on to use transIDs separately from the radqueer community, but they also might not be comfortable using terms that encompass harmful transitioning. Or maybe they simply don’t experience their atypical dysphoria in a way analogous to transgender.

There are so many reasons why a non radqueer would use an alternative term. They’ve “thought about things” more than radqueers wanting everyone to use transIDs, honestly.

now i understand if it’s something non-specific like transage/arissoage, like that’s reasonable to be like “you can’t restrict this” because it’s something so vague, but if it’s something specific, it’s not reasonable to get mad over.

Anyone can feel atypical dysphoria about specific things and describe it with transID alternatives. You’re still encouraging the unreasonable restriction of these terms being coined even if you’re doing it for a smaller amount, with more vague terms being “allowed to exist” but more specific terms not.

the thing is, with you antis, you would be mad if a transid coiner reclaimed one of your arisso terms (it’s happened before) but for some reason it’s fine if you get mad at them but they can’t get mad at you?

Generalization much? I’m not a dissomei or desirdae coiner, but if a transID coiner were to make their own version of my terms I wouldn’t care. Because again. It would be a different term.

I don’t know what situation you’re referring to, but since you used the word arisso I suspect you’re referring to one in particular.

@/acetrappolaswife, the coiner of arissomei before it was recoined as dissomei, created arissoimmoral as an umbrella term for any harmful arissomei identities. The public coining of anything more specific than that was explicitly forbidden, as it could be seen as glorifying the harm the term would describe. One radqueer coined these terms anyway and received backlash from both @/acetrappolaswife and other antis as a result.

You can clearly see how this situation differs. The radqueer did not coin equivalent transIDs to arissomei identities; they coined arissomei identities the coiner of arissomei had forbidden.

even if you were going to recreate their terms, just block them so they can’t see instead of INVALIDATING THEIR BOUNDARIES. it’s seriously not that deep.

I mean yeah sure, that can be done. I don’t think any dissomei or desirdae coiner would be opposed to blocking a radqueer who requests it. You’ve gotta understand though, radqueer blogs get terminated too often for blocking every transID coiner to be feasible. (This is your 27th blog.) It would have to be done on a case by case basis.

it is CRAZY to say “your boundary isn’t valid and let me explain why.” you wouldn’t say that to ANY other boundary, you’re only saying it to this one because it’s about you. grow the fuck up.

I said the boundary wasn’t reasonable, not invalid. A radqueer saying “do not coin a specific dissomei or desirdae term” is not reasonable in the slightest. This isn’t about me as I don’t coin dissomei or desirdae terms, I’m literally just explaining that people are allowed to do that.

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saying this to someone's boundary is INSANE. "your boundary isn't valid because i want to use your term without associating with you!"

if you antis seriously want to use a transid label that bad that you have to steal the term from the original owner, maybe you should think about some things. now i understand if it's something non-specific like transage/arissoage, like that's reasonable to be like "you can't restrict this" because it's something so vague, but if it's something specific, it's not reasonable to get mad over. the thing is, with you antis, you would be mad if a transid coiner reclaimed one of your arisso terms (it's happened before) but for some reason it's fine if you get mad at them but they can't get mad at you? even if you were going to recreate their terms, just block them so they can't see instead of INVALIDATING THEIR BOUNDARIES. it's seriously not that deep. it is CRAZY to say "your boundary isn't valid and let me explain why." you wouldnt say that to ANY other boundary, youre only saying it to this one because its about you. grow the fuck up

[ghosting-plural-userboxes]

Desirdae coining post

Desirdae "A term simular in meaning to dissomei. It supports non-harmful transitioning and is inclusive to everyone with atypical dysphoria , trauma , self doubt , etc-"

an example of a desirdae term would be...

"Desirautism" which is a term for those that desire/yearn/want autism in some way. some examples of why would be: an autistic being feeling as if they are not "autistic enough" , Those who are trying to "reconnect" to their autism due to being forced to mask , Those with atypical dysphoria etc.

note: to clear this term up it does not support harmful transitioning. It does support nonharmful transitioning such as someone with short hair trying to “transition” to long hair, or somone with autism trying to “transition” to autism due to them trying to start unmasking and showing their autistic traits more.

THIS TERM IS STRICTLY ANTI RADQUEER

-Momoko

tags: @radiomogai

symbol found here(link)

[kiruliom]

ID in alt text

dissomei/dissodic

a term to describe an involuntary disconnect one has have between their physical self and inner self, it is against transitioning if its unsafe or can harm other people. its symbol is 🧠🚫🫀

this can be because of (but isnt limited to):

atypical dysphoria

delusions, psychosis

systemhood, headmates/facets differing from physical body

alterhumanity, nonhumanity

BIID, facticious disorders

there is no set flag template to encourage creativity, but there is community-made ones if you prefer them.

originally coined by acetrappolaswife, now deactivated. both flag and descriptions have been simplified with as much integrity to the original as possible.

this term is NOT rad//queer friendly and was made as a safer version of trans//ids for those who want to leave the community. it is, however, not exclusive to them. if youre a proud, active rad//queer and want to use this, you literally have your equivelant of the term, go away. shoo.

original coining post and flags for archival and options:

link

ID in alt text

tagging: @dissodic-archive @radiomogai

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atypical euphoria and dysphoria flags

flags for anyone who has atypical euphoria or dysphoria

atypical meaning outside of what's usually considered when talking about dysphoria (like age or species euphoria instead of gender dysphoria) but if you have your own definitions of these that works too ‼️‼️

[esoteriea]

esoteriea

esoteriea or esoID is a term for when your internal self does not line up with your external self for any reason; this includes but is not limited to being an alter or part in a system, being nonhuman, having delusions, or being dysphoric towards any aspect of yourself.

[esoteri]c - internal (greek)

[ea]ftos - self (greek)

the prefix for this term is ‘eso-‘

for example someone who is internally a kitten would be considered esokitten.

exoteriea

a term to describe your external self.

[exoteri]kos - external (greek)

[ea]ftos - self (greek)

the prefix for this term is ‘exo-‘

for example someone who is externally human would be considered exohuman

-> anyone can use this term as long as they are being respectful

-> this term is against harmful transitioning

(send asks to clarify what is harmful and what is not)

-> this term is against discourse

-> this term is against most conabuse relationships

[historyinclusionist]

Harmless Personal Identity coining

Since the term I crafted has been picking up steam in a couple places, I decided it's time to make a official post for it and propose a flag. I'm not good at making flags and you're welcome to redesign the above one if you like this term.

Harmless Personal Identity (HPI) is an umbrella term meant to describe personal identities that people might assign to themselves, coin for others, make pride flags for, and so on, but not any identities that inherently cause harm. If an identity checks the following boxes, it can be called a Harmless Personal Identity.

Harmless: It doesn't encourage predatory behavior, racism, ableism, transphobia etc just by existing.

The identity is being labeled because it makes the person using it comfortable. Not to harm others by deceiving them. For example: LGBT people and systems are not intending to deceive others and simply want to live as they are. This doesn't mean that the term in question is completely free of criticism or couldn't be used in bad faith—I think every term that's ever been coined could be used in bad faith. This means that it may be unusual or strange, especially to people who aren't familiar with the social groups/contexts the term was coined in, but the definition doesn't encourage people to appropriate culture, speak over people of color, commit inc-st/p-dophilia/z-ophilia, or otherwise cause harm to themselves or another living being as part of that identity.

Example: "Transhawaiian" is not an HPI, because by virtue of it existing the coiner and anyone who uses this term are saying that "Hawaiian" is a feeling someone can decide they feel and apply to themself at will, instead of the racial minority that "Hawaiian" actually is.

Personal: Identities which are wholly self-determined and locatable only within that person's interaction with and relations to the world around them.

In general—Other people cannot determine your internal view of yourself because they cannot be you, therefore your identity is personal! Someone who's unfamiliar with xenogenders may tell me that I cannot be -insert gender- because -thing- isn't a gender, but my gender is inside me and I cannot possibly give them the ability to feel it for me. It is located only within me.

This includes labels that get called "contradictory", like identifying as a lesbian and a man at the same time. If you're not familiar with multigender and multisexual lesbian spaces that might sound strange, but gender+presentation and orientation labels are purely self-defined—they are the coiner/anyone who uses that term saying "this is how I would describe my attraction to -insert gender here-," "this is how I would describe my gender that only I can feel inside my head and can't physically show to someone else," and so on. A bisexual lesbian's identity is not saying that all lesbians are bisexual or that they should identify that way; It is saying that that individual determined themself to be bisexual and lesbian.

(This does not extend to, again, racism and cultural appropriation. Queer labels are a self-defined thing, whereas racial and ethnic identity and things like congenital disorders can have self-defined aspects but are largely on a completely different quadrant of identity and can't be "decided" in the same way that queer labels can.)

Identity: A self-applied label or understanding of yourself.

This one is straightforward mostly. I would like to note that this does include things like reclaimed slurs and derogatory words, since in those cases, it's that person who's been called that word choosing "you know what? I AM a -slur- and I love myself for it!" instead of it being used to put them down.

Ok, so what identities specifically?

MOGAI (xenogenders, neogenders, neo/newly coined orientations, presentation terms, neopronouns+etc)

Alterhuman (the entire alterhuman umbrella, excluding any culturally appropriative behavior)

Most plural culture/coined terms for plural experiences

Other identity umbrellas (Dissomei, desirdae, reclaimed xenoidentities, xenonatures, neurowiry,+etc)

And so on. Is it not a radqueer, transrace, transx, etc term or would you call it a "good faith identity"? It most likely fits here.

This also includes a category of personal identity I've been seeing more and more lately, which are these uncategorized identifications with specific words that have pride flags. Some examples: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5

Ok, cool, do I identify as this?

You would say "I use harmless personal identities"/"I support harmless personal identities"/I coin harmless personal identities"+etc. This is less an identity and more of a faster way to describe these identities.

TD;LR— Identities that are probably niche, but don't harm people like radqueer/transid/transrace/transabled do.

Tagging: @gender-jargon | @neopronouns | @radiomogai | @kiruliom | @aspectsofidentity | @beyond-mogai-pride-flags | @neopronouns | @antiradqueerguy

Alt flags and more things are beneath the cut:

Two alternative flag ideas which I abandoned, but you can use if you want.

The phrasing "locatable only within your interaction with and relations to the world around you" came from a Tumblr post by txttletale (lost link). This term and the author have no affiliation with them, I just thought it was a wonderful way to phrase this concept. This would later inspire me to coin the term History Inclusionist, which then led to me sort of backwards-coining HPI to describe it.

You don't have to be a History Inclusionist to use the term HPI and I won't tell you not to interact with me if you aren't one.

I might make subset flags later. Maybe?

[11/21/2024] I forgot to add that @kiruliom helped me adjust the flag colors. Thank you.

[harmlesspersonalidentityarchive]

archive of archives/helpful blogs i found

general/all mogai:

@archive-of-ire terms about anger, rage and spite

@archive-of-music musicagender & songic/songgender

@faunagender mogai terms related to animals

@floragender terms related to flora

@toygenders terms related to toys

@horrormogai horror-based labels

@pride-color-schemes flag maker, posted compilations of all flags for many terms which include alt text for each flag

https://www.tumblr.com/beyond-mogai-pride-flags they DO have like a bajillion reblogs of useful things but also frequently let racist/ableist terms fall through the cracks so browse at your own risk

@gender-jargon coins lots of mogai things and reblogs some terms

@neopronouns coiner and reblogger of a lot of stuff coins lots of things and reblogs mogai/liom

@radiomogai archives tons of things, mostly mogai

@io-archival unarchived terms, deleted posts and deactivated blogs

@mogai-transcriber transcribes/writes plain text for tons of things

@accessmogai transcribes/writes image descriptions/writes plain text

https://coinfight.tumblr.com/ archive of terms coined during coinfight

genders:

@fem-mogai feminine and female genders

@recordshop-archive genders related to songs, artists, and albums

@bitchgenders-archive -bitchgenders

@inviane-archive

@musicamogai

@catgender-archiver

@thing-genders-archive

orientation/attraction:

@orientation-archive.

@tertiary-attraction-archive

alteraffectis:

@alteraffectis

ficto:

@fictoflags

objectum/conceptum/objectix:

@object-concept-archive

presentation:

@presentationflag-archive

pronouns:

@pronoun-arc

@everypronoun

relationships:

@x4xarchive x4x (like t4t) terms

intersex:

@interarchive intersex related terms

@intersexflags aesthetic intersex flags

reclaimed slurs:

f-ggot: @faggyflags

after dark:

after dark = not safe for minors. be logical and don't interact with blogs dedicated to this if a minor

@mogaigonewild

other:

@flageditsarchive.tumblr.com/ aesthetic and colorpicked flags

@aestheticprideflagarchive aesthetic, combo, colorpicked, misc flags (inactive)

@harmlesspersonalidentityarchive thas me :3 various ids, especially focused on things like transspecies, dissomei, desirdae etc

@mogai-icon-archive pride icons

@conformant-archive conforming, like cis and straight, and variants of that

@cisqueer-archive identities involving cisness with queerness

neurodivergence:

general neurodivergence:

@mad-pride

neurogenders:

@neurogenderarchive

identiora/"other"

kin/therian/hearted:

@alterhumanflags

age:

age regression:

https://a-agere-archive.tumblr.com/

chronosian:

@chronosian-archive (inactive)

dissomei:

@dissodic-archive

desirdae:

@desirdae-archive

emsoul:

@emsoul-archive

intusui:

@intusui

species:

@specieschive

other/misc identiora:

@archive-of-form "Archive for terms related to having and/or desiring certain body traits. Includes aldernic, dissodic, transbody, desirdae, altersex, and misceverse terms."

@aspectsofidentity

plurality:

all purpose plurality:

@plurality-faq

https://www.tumblr.com/plural-labels (inactive)

misc/other:

ficto-religions:

@ficto-religious-archive

general purpose misc/other:

https://everythingarchive.tumblr.com/

unsure how to categorize:

https://www.tumblr.com/gamercod old archive for one system's coinings

https://www.tumblr.com/daylightrecords/ old archive for one user's coining

https://www.tumblr.com/notcishetarchive everything not cishet. idk how to warn for... whatever happened there

https://www.tumblr.com/yanderessarchive

@rentrypixelpridearchive pride flag pixels for rentry

@other-pride-archive

neoagab:

@neoagab

dances

[atypical-dysphoria-culture-is]

Atypical Dysphoria Emoji Codes

[PT: Atypical Dysphoria Emoji Codes]

Note! I plan to update this over time but for now these are the basic ones! If you have any I don’t have listed, please inform me! For more infomation check this out!

Term Codes

Dissomei : 🧠🚫🫀

Desirdae : 💫☁️ or 🌟🫙

Intusui : 👤💠

Atypical Dysphoria Codes

Atypical Dysphoria : 🧠🌀

Coping Atypical Dysphoria : 🧠🌀💚

Xenic Dysphoria : 🧠⭐️

BIID / Disability Dysphoria : 🧠🦽

Neurodiverse Dysphoria : 🧠🎭

Species Dysphoria : 🧠🐾

Age Dysphoria : 🧠🍼 or 🧠🥤or 🧠🍾

Time/Era Dysphoria : 🧠🕰️

Race Dysphoria : 🧠🖐️

Nationality Dysphoria : 🧠🏳️

Addiction Dysphoria : 🧠💊

Moral Dysphoria : 🧠⚖️

@atypical-dysphoria , @desirdae-archive , @dissodic-archive , @intusui

[redacted-coiner]

Siblings in Arms

A Handshake for those who may be both Dissomei(link) and Desirdae(link), Someone who is Desirdae and supports Dissomei folks, someone who is Dissomei and supports Desirdae folks, etc.

@dissodic-archive & @desirdae-archive

[questioning-ex-rq]

Pandissomei / Pandissodic

Pandissomei or Pandissodic (could also be called Dissoeverything) is a dissodic term that describes someone who feels involuntarily disconnected from the entirety of their physical / current self, believing that every aspect of them should be or is something else

This could refer to feeling disconnected from each individual part of yourself, being dissoage, dissobody, dissospecies, and so on, or just feeling disconnected from yourself as a whole. You don't have to identify under each dissodic umbrella individually to be pandissomei

This term is against transitioning if its unsafe or could harm others

@dissodic-archive, flag template by @kiruliom

[anti-rq-gumi]

This is not a reasonable boundary to set. And I’m going to explain why.

(Plain text: I have no DNI, but I am a radqueer! Hate will be deleted and ignored!

Do not recoin this [transID] label as desirdae, arissomei, or dissomei! Anti-radqueers may use this label as is!)

You cannot restrict peoples�� abilities to coin dissomei and desirdae subterms, just by creating a transID.

If someone makes a dissomei or desirdae version of a transID, even if it’s your transID that you coined specifically, they aren’t copying the term. TransID and its alternatives are not the exact same. They have fundamentally different definitions. Anti radqueers and non radqueers are allowed to use their own terms that describe their own atypical dysphoria without connection to the transID label.

You can restrict who’s allowed to use your terms, but you can’t restrict people from using anything other than your terms. That’s ridiculous.

@/kiruliom is the owner of dissomei after @/acetrappolaswife transferred ownership, and @/ghosting-plural-userboxes is coiner of desirdae. These are the only people who can restrict the terms’ usage. I encourage radqueers to communicate with them directly if they would like something changed instead of doing this.

[spongebobflags]

PRIDE ORBS

anti radqueer inclusionist - disabled dissomei - eepyqueer endogenic - inclusionist

F2U!

[ghosting-plural-userboxes]

DESIRHARMED

Desirharmed: a desirdae subcategory for those who desire/yearn/want to be harmed in someway due to ones trauma, exotrauma and/or mental illness.

This subcategory is strictly anti transitioning and very much in support of trying to learn healthy coping mechanisms and finding good and strong support systems.

THIS TERM IS STRICTLY ANTI RADQUEER

note: to all of our fellow traumatized and mentally ill folks who desire to be hurt we see you and hear you. wanting to be hurt does not make you a bad person. You all deserve the best ^.^!

tags: @desirdae-archive, @antitransidspace

[kiruliom]

my biggest issue right now with trans//id alternative coiners is how little care they seem to put into their terms?

like for all of them its just the usual "anti transitioning if unsafe" or "ok to transition if safe" but they never really put in the thought of or explain HOW it can be done safely or unsafely

I get its because theres this idea of quantity over quality in the mogai community, and with a lot of members disabled it can be draining to edit every single term to be personalized or even think about that stuff, but the way they dont elaborate on this stuff still feels like its more of just a saying than something theyre serious or genuine about, even if I know thats not necessarily the case. you cant truly safely 'transition' to idk dissodeath or desirpermasleep or whatever, saying 'ok to transition to if safe' is so redundant.

dysphoria relief and transitioning are different things in this case. you cant safely transition to being dead but you can safely relieve dysphoria by getting tattoos, drawing on your skin, using dead/undead terminology etc. theyre not the same thing. so people putting "ok to transition if safe" on things like that feels really ignorant if anything.

there is also the other side of the spectrum like desirblacknails saying "ok to transition to if safe". how would you transition to black nails in an unsafe way??? besides like idk using non-body safe permanent markers, and how much harm can that really do especially if short term yk?

(note, the only thing here I know exists is dissodeath, I dont mean to shame, call out or guilt trip anyone, Im just voicing a general complaint Ive been observing go around since terms like these started to pop up around last year)