#Dean Factor

[shannendoherty-fans]

December 4, 1992 - Shannen Doherty, Lebanese film producer Elie Samaha and Julian Lennon during the Grand Opening of Club Shelter in Pasadena, California, United States. She attended with her boyfriend Dean Factor (can be seen in one of the transparencies).

[inalandofsadclowns]

And that's when Dean knew for certain...

...they're talking about Cas.

[humandisorderincarnatedean]

what I would love is just. acknowledgement that what dean did in hell and the fact he adapted to enjoy it wasn’t something he chose to do in any way. that choosing to do sth is not the same as being tortured into it. i know the show’d never have done that it was too busy doing other stuff. idk i’d just have liked SOMEONE to mention it instead of holding dean responsible for it like it was just... any other bad decision someone made. a mistake, like taking on the mark or trusting gadreel. it’s not a mistake dean made, it was a survival tactic

[thefableddestiel]

I truly love the fact that Jensen loves Dean so much. It’s amazing seeing actors love a character as much as we do.

But what I don’t love, is I feel like he has tunnel vision with Dean. He’s so caught up in the way that he’s intending to portray the character when he acts, that he disregards the way it’s actually being perceived by the audience, as if his intention is all that matters.

Like yeah, I get that you didn’t “play him that way [as in love with Cas]” But art is subjective and interpretive and regardless of what you intended, your audience is telling you that Dean is reading as very much in love with Castiel.

Also, your acting isn’t the only factor here. It’s the music choices, the cinematography, the setting, the editing, the writing. It is the result of everything. You not “playing him that way” does not have more weight than all of these things put together.

[stellaluna33]

Ok, so here's one of MY unpopular Gilmore Girls opinions: I don't believe that Rory only stayed with Dean to keep everyone else (including her mother) happy. I don't. I think she did love him IN SOME WAY. Was she "IN Love" with him? It's hard to say. But she genuinely cared about him, enjoyed his company enough to want to be friends with him after breaking up, and... I do think there were some aspects of their relationship that she genuinely liked and wasn't sure she wanted to give up. I know a lot of people hate Dean (I'm not fond of him myself), but this isn't about MY preferences or YOUR preferences, it's about RORY'S, and when I look at the actual show without filtering it through my own wishes, that's what it looks like to me, especially given the way she kept comparing Dean to Jess after she started dating him. Rory wouldn't have done that unless there were parts of that relationship she missed! According to what Rory herself said, she LIKED the way Dean made her feel cared for and important. Even his jealousy and clinginess, which did bother her, could be explained away because they were "symptoms" of how "important" she was to him! He WANTED her! He wanted her more than Rory wanted him, actually, and sometimes? Sometimes that's an intoxicating thing, especially when you HAVEN'T always felt wanted. He made plans and took her out and made her feel "spoiled" (Rory's words!), and that made her feel special! She may not have been "in love" with him in a grand, all-consuming, passionate kind of way, but she liked "being his girlfriend" a lot of the time.

This is why I think she wavered so much when she did fall in love with Jess. Because despite the things she would gain from choosing Jess (the all-consuming, passionate kind of love, deep connection and companionship), she would be giving up (and hurting!) someone she felt a lot of affection for! And also giving up the ease of dependability, familiarity, and yes, someone who fit neatly into the life and relationships she already had. I think she was almost prepared to do so when Jess moved back to Stars Hollow "for her," but when he appeared to move on so quickly with Shane, it made her doubt whether Jess wanted her as much as she wanted him, and that felt dangerous. Why give up someone who clearly DID want her, to chase after someone who might not?

Yeah, anyway... I feel like I've wandered a bit, but the bottom line is: I really do think it was only a little bit about pleasing her mom, and a lot to do with how Dean was good at making her feel wanted, even if it was to a toxic degree.

[unforth]

Prefacing this TGCF post with: people can draw and write however they want forever and I support them and this is about my personal view of these characters.

Anyway.

I saw a post today that had Xie Lian singing "when will my life begin" from Tangled and it drove home what really bugs me about a lot of fan casts of Hualian onto popular media (see also my Howl's Moving Castle take). It's this idea that Xie Lian is, well, waiting for his life to begin, and Hua Cheng swoops in and makes it exciting, when this is imo so utterly antithetical, and in fact opposite, to canon.

Xie Lian has lived and lived and lived. He was a prince, he fought in wars, even during his 800 years fallen the whole book is an exercise in showing that he WASN'T just waiting around, he kept doing things the whole time - Fang Xin Guoshi and General Hua and and and. AND he also cultivated to the point of ascending again. Xie Lian is a fucking bad ass idealistic martyr who doesn't know when to quit and at least to me that's the whole point of his character and I love that about and for him so to see him inserted into existing franchise AUs as the wilting flower waiting for a moment to shine is utter character erasure and it makes me insane enough that I'm writing this post about it even though I think I shouldn't and even though I genuinely don't want to rain on anyone's fandom parade. But like. That's not him!

You know who it is?

It's Hua Cheng!

Hong Hong'er lives in Xianle, a kingdom where all this stuff is happening, and he just watches from the sidelines. He's an observer at the parade. He's just some kid. And then he falls (or jumps, or is pushed, you pick your interpretation) and he's caught by literally the coolest guy in the entire kingdom. He's the nobody who gets swept off his feet! And it changes his whole life! Like I think it wouldn't irk me so much to see Xie Lian get typecast that way if Hua Cheng wasn't right there literally living his "I met God and it changed my whole life for the better" fantasy. He seriously deserves to get recognized for this. I get that he's the loud flamboyant one so that makes it seem like he should get cast as a Howl or a Flynn or whoever, but like. He was waiting for his life to begin, and it does, when he meets Xie Lian.

And like. I get that these are kinda competing interpretations that depend on when you look at canon - I'm looking at the original 800 years ago events, others are looking at Hua Cheng coming in 800 years later - but still the "present" in TGCF isn't imo about Xie Lian having waited to be saved, he hasn't been in a hat shop for his whole life boredly making hats, he's never stopped moving and never stopped adventuring and never stopped striving to change the world. Hua Cheng is living out his "you saved me now I save you" fantasies but fundamentally they save each other over and over and over again and that's beautiful and I hate seeing it erased to make Xie Lian into the wilting flower. Like. The one who basically hasn't done anything that whole 800 years is ALSO Hua Cheng. We don't hear about him going off and having idealistic adventures. Everything we know of that he's done was directly related to Xie Lian (ie burning the temples). Other than that he seems to sit around in Ghost City chilling with his ghoulies. So again, finding Xie Lian is what pulls him out of his funk and prompts him to start acting for good, whereas Xie Lian has been acting for good the whole time.

Ugh. I should shut up now, just, I've been in this fandom for four years and this has become such a pet peeve of mine because it reflects such a huge disconnect between how I perceive these characters and how much of the rest of fandom does. And that frustrates me, cause I wish there was more content in line with my perception.

[ananke-xiii]

Welcome home, pal.

I'll never be normal about these two. Them and their frigging ET references.

[chitaquahq]

Biggest difference between Endverse Dean and Dean is that Endverse Dean might have way more experience living on that universe— but if there is one single weapon on the battlefield, you can bet Dean will find it and use it.

When it comes to the heart of it, Endverse Dean needed a weapon, he needed someone to be his weapon or a physical object, he needed an army because he stopped believing in himself. He was defeated, he wanted to go back in time and give himself to Michael, he put all his faith on the Colt.

In contrast, Dean is a weapon. His actions have repercussions that change the story because he has a choice and that choice matters. He trusted his judgement when he said that there must be another way, one that didn't involve saying yes to Michael. When the Colt failed him, when Sam said yes to Lucifer, Dean went to a battlefield without a weapon. Cas and Bobby only gave him time, so Dean could fall on his knees and talk to his brother until it gave Sam the strength to cage Lucifer.

He did that with words alone.

When Cas met Dean, he thought he had no faith. It isn't quite true, it's just that his faith is not on some god or bug plan. Dean's faith is impossible to escape, it's all consuming and empowering, it's a world on its own. Dean believes in Sam, in Cas, in Bobby. Then he arrived to the Endverse and he deployed that faith in Chitaqua and Ichabod.

Incredibly fucking dangerous because he knows he only need one chance and it'll be over. One slip, one opening: that's how he killed Zachariah. Bring a weapon and he'll find it. Give him the 0.0001% chance of winning and he will.

Compared to Endverse Dean (the end of the road and the lost of purpose), Dean is the embodiment of possibilities. Not because those opportunities are granted to him, but because he'd craft them out of thin air if necessary.

[shannendoherty-fans]

May 6, 1999 - Maxim Magazine's "Circus Maximus" First Anual Hollywood Gala and Party.

This party was hosted by Shannen because she was Maxim's covergirl. She invited many celebrities and friends. In the 3rd photo we can see her ex-fiancé Dean Factor, so it's nice to see they are in good terms despite their stormy 1993 relationship.

[soullessjack]

hi im tired and in a teeny bit of pain and I’m fed up with jack being used to fix and absolve dean so heres them mutually getting their shit together like they actually should okay goodnight send tweet

[wigglebox]

Sometimes I remember people actively think Dean represses his feelings about anything and is always angry tho but then I remember people from his surrogate father to his historical hero across the board have told him to basically “man up” and stop crying about shit and stop complaining.

[kermit-coded]

i just realized that ricstar is what destiel could've been if the spn writers didn't suck absolute ass. normal guy (relatively) with daddy issues and a score to settle meets otherworldly warrior running from his creators and who can teleport and doesn't understand pop culture and they are besties. but the writers let ricstar kiss on panel. cas just got sent to superhell.

[ramblingsupernatural]

something about the early 2000s era seasons of supernatural. young sam and dean. searching for their missing father. travelling on the road. motel to motel. the gritty lighting. solving a new case each episode. just two brothers with unresolved childhood trauma and no therapists.

[mrcowboydeanwinchester]

thirty year old dean's grief is surrounded by darkness and night. it was night when his mom burned and his childhood home went up in flames it was night when sam lost jess and it was dean's fault and it was dark and cold when he was ripped apart by hellhounds and when they opened the cage and when jo and ellen sacrificed themselves. everything is grainy and dark and dean goes okay. okay then i must surround myself in light. i will keep this sadness at bay by living under a blue sky. and the colours get lighter and the saturation rises and he lives in a bunker where he gets to control the light level but then. cas dies and dean stands over his body in broad daylight. he begs a careless god to bring cas back while standing in the spring sun. and when his mother dies he cradles her under a blue blue sky and it's everywhere! the grief is everywhere! age fourty the sadness cannot be kept in the corners of his life anymore it is everywhere and in everything!!! and yet the world is still beautiful. and he still wants to save it.

[undertheredhood]

yeah, dean highbottom ended up being right about the person coriolanus snow would eventually become but why was he, an adult in a position of power beefing with a teenager?

[idkwhattocallmyselfs-stuff]

One of my toxic traits is I believe without a shadow of a doubt that I could fix this man