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musialawirtzrichten · 5 months ago
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uscins ist einfach ein macher!
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jockifotopress · 1 month ago
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Zwei Erlanger in der Nationalmannschaft
Zwei Spieler des HC Erlangen sind in den 35er-Kader der DHB-Nationalmannschaft für die WM 2025 berufen worden. Neben Routinier Christoph Steinert (rechts) steht auch ein zweiter Erlanger im 35er-Kader. Nachwuchstalent und Eigengewächs Tim Gömmel (19 Jahre) konnte Bundestrainer Alfred Gislason mit seinen starken Leistungen bei den U21-Testspielen gegen Polen vergangene Woche in Walcz nachhaltig überzeugen.
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theswizzle16 · 11 months ago
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like not to be mean but why are so many swifties pretending to care about football girliepops I know that you don’t care who are you trying to convince 😭
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slackerlifewhere · 7 months ago
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Involving kids in battles
There are a lot of opinions about Cale Henituse, formerly known as Kim Rok Soo. Some readers love him and some readers don't. Some find him funny and some think he's annoying. Some see his selflessness and some judge him as selfish.
He's a very complex character that is just tired of the bullshit the gods did to a lot of people including himself.
But the one thing that some readers do not like about him is how he includes kids in wars and battles against multiple powerful threats.
I've made a post about female characters that slightly mentions this. It can be found during On's part in the post if you're curious.
So here's the thing about the kids in TCF, or rather, the kids in Cale's group. They're strong in different ways.
And most of them, excluding Lily and Basen, are not humans.
To understand why I think their presence in battles are okay, let me first bring up Kim Rok Soo's past to understand the way he thinks.
As we all know, at least the ones who finished the first book, Kim Rok Soo did not have the best life. His parents died from a car accident when he was young and he was left to his abusive uncle. He was mostly alone with no connections to other people (for reasons you need to read about if you haven't yet) until the apocalypse (when he was a young part-timer) happened where he had to survive by himself until he became a member of a team with different abilities. He was a member who had to fight and watch people die when he was young until he's 36 years old.
He doesn't have a normal life and childhood.
'Kim Rok Soo had once had to starve in the past. He did not enjoy seeing children looking so skinny. Although Lock had always looked feeble and his tall height made him skinny from the start, he seemed even thinner now.' - Chapter 234: Something Obvious (3)
So if a person who grew up under these circumstances is suddenly thrusted into another world where anyone can die easily, what would he do?
Basen and Lily
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His first reaction to the idea of Basen being sent to the plaza where Cale knows a tragedy might happen, is to agree with Deruth's idea of replacing Basen, knowing full well that his younger brother will not come back completely fine, especially since he's a normal kid. He chose to sacrifice his safety for a brother he barely knows since he recently just got transmigrated in this strange world. Basen is more fit to help in their territory than to fight in battles. And he does not see this as a weakness.
When Lily asks for a sword instead of a normal toy a child of her age would normally want, he easily agrees. This is a kid who wants to learn how to fight. He knows that there will be war coming to Roan Kingdom and their territory will be the first to face this danger. So the idea of her learning how to fight, with the mindset of someone who survived in an apocalypse, made him agree without complaints.
Raon Miru
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Fast forward and he gained the trust of three children who are harmed by a tribe and a cruel noble. He pities them but also understands their pain at the same time, especially after everything he went through. He knows coddling them would not make things better since they already know how harsh the world is.
Raon is a baby dragon but he's stronger than all of the people in his group, except Eruhaben. He's a kid who easily talks about destroying the world if Cale doesn't wake up after fainting. He's a kid who wants revenge against Venion and he never let go of that anger even when he was freed by Cale and his group. He knows he's stronger than Cale and does not want to leave this "weak" human despite the strong enemies they face.
But Cale, even with this thought of "putting him to use" at first, told him to hide himself in all battles and when around strangers.
Even though he knows Raon can fight, it's obvious the little dragon will face potential problems if everyone knows there's a dragon in the group. Arm would do everything to get Raon and bring him to DHB, the nobles would probably become greedy, a lot of people will rely on him for things he shouldn't even need to do, and Raon will never be truly free from all the expectations placed on him.
He could leave Raon with Elves and Eruhaben but considering what Arm did to the elves, Eruhaben's lair, and Olienne, there are no safe places to leave him.
Cale gave him the freedom of choice. He can live freely as a dragon without trusting a human. He was fully confident that Raon will not follow him. But he did. So Raon is his responsibility now.
I made a post about liking both Cale and Reigen Arataka and I can honestly see their similarities in this part. They know the kid with them is stronger than them but they also know that fully placing all the responsibilities and expectations on this kid will ruin them.
He, like Reigen, tells his kids that it's okay to run when facing a strong opponent. That it's okay to rely and let the adults handle the hard part of the battle. He respects and relies on them when necessary and pulls them back when they face real danger.
When the White Star first appeared, Cale's first instinct was to hide Raon in his arms and to defend themselves from the man. He was also prepared to fight until Eruhaben appeared. No matter how much Raon wanted to fight, Cale kept hiding him and was genuinely scared for the dragon.
So yes, he cares for the kids in his own way but doesn't treat them in a patronizing manner.
On and Hong
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Like I've mentioned in my other post, On and Hong also did not have a great childhood. They were chased from their tribe who wanted to kill them because they're "useless" and mutants.
They did not trust anyone until they met Cale who says one thing and does the opposite. They placed their trust on Cale who may appear indifferent and cold but seems to care for them by giving them bread, medicine, and meat without having expectations from them.
Some readers might find it distasteful but it's obvious that they want to be useful, no matter how small their contribution is to the fight. I think the term "useful" makes it cruel but for them, it's something to be proud of. When he first uses this term, it's when they were saving Raon. But his next instinct was to check if they're okay after infiltrating the cave.
Is it bad to let these kids fight after they escaped death? Yes and no.
They should be safe, away from harm or danger. That's normal to think about children and I agree they need safety like normal children. But once again, these kids aren't human and they are in a different world from us. They grew up in a tribe that expects them to be strong so in every opportunity, they look for ways to be strong.
That's not exactly a normal kid's way of thinking.
And again, Cale's initial indifference to everything around him is the extension of what his former life did to his psyche. He's not a normal person either. None of these characters are normal. Oddly enough, the most normal are Litana and Valentino.
And in all honesty, knowing how he thinks and respects someone's needs and wants, if they want to stay away from danger or stop fighting, there is no doubt he would accept their wishes and let them hide somewhere far away from Arm. But like Raon, they want to fight back against the tribe who wants them dead. In a sense, they also want revenge and to prove everyone that they've become strong.
Lock and the Wolf children
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Lock is still a young boy, no matter how much he shoulders after the death of his tribe. I still see him as a kid like Basen.
When Lock was having troubles during the war, Cale did not scold him. Instead, he encouraged him to eat since he noticed how Lock hasn't been eating since he first learned he can't use his berserk form. He told him that he did not need to fight. His only role was to stand and protect Raon. Simple but it made Lock feel relieved and happy that Cale didn't get angry at him for being weak.
I see it as Cale just wanting him to step back and get stronger, to rely on the rest of the adults and to not worry about regressing. I can only imagine what Kim Rok Soo went through to be so wise about this kind of situation.
This part is one of the most memorable to me because of what happens at the end of the battle,
'I am the adult.
I am the guardian of these two children.
I need to take full responsibility since I chose to take them in.
I need the Super Rock's power.'
Cale, despite all his inner complaints and initial reluctance about how he's suddenly involved in a group of children's safety and protection, finally admitted how important it is that he takes full responsibility of those he took in. And the way he does it is by "sacrificing" himself.
When Lock finally overcome his fear and was about to protect Cale, Cale got annoyed and said,
"Children grow up so fast" with a pat on Lock's head.
He sounded like a father or an uncle who was proud of Lock for overcoming his obstacles. This one scene among multitudes of others made me recognize how much he cares for these children. It's happening mid-battle but it doesn't detracts the emotional value but only increases it. It was another reason why I find Cale Henituse so interesting and mesmerizing.
Conclusion
Cale Henituse, for all his self-hatred and low self-esteem, does not bring down a child or person's confidence. He gives them the choice to become strong and protects them when they're weak.
He does not force them to do anything they can't or don't want to do. He knows what he went through as Kim Rok Soo is bad and he doesn't want them to go through the same thing.
Reading between the lines made me see that there's something deeper than what Cale shows.
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I'm not gonna lie, I sound like Clopeh at some parts whenever I write like this. I felt the same when I was writing about the female characters lmao
I'm sorry if this is so long 😅 I became too passionate about this topic. I understand the people who are worried about the kids but this is still my opinion about it.
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bybdolan · 11 months ago
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also i generally don't believe in the idea that money and fame shield you from the effects of bullying, but it is crazy to think that a lot of the people who face this abuse are just. Normal people who do not have any kind of protection from this stuff
the way people treat athletes in the public eye is literally insane. these ppl cannot make a single mistake without being torn apart for it on the internet.
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coochiequeens · 2 years ago
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“She” was charged under another name because it’s a guy.
A woman who told police and a mental health team she wanted to commit “suicide by cop” before chasing a doctor down the street with a crossbow has been sentenced to intensive supervision.
Jade Follett, who was charged under the name Joshua Gary Follett, appeared in the Hutt Valley District Court today for sentencing, having pleaded guilty to the offending.
Judge Michael Mika said Follett was at a house in Alicetown, Lower Hutt on July 25 last year when police approached the property with a duly authorised officer (DAO) to assist with a mental health assessment.
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jesuistrefatugie · 2 years ago
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Agatha basic headcannons
Artificial body capable of shapeshifting with a dragon's heart
Former aquamarine dragon, now a claret/maroon colored dragon.
Still has golden eyes, but her skin turned dark and her mana is now rose gold in color
Arm was trying to make a homonculius, but kept failing. Bernard remembered the Aquamarine Dragon that the White Star injured, and thought that adding a dragon's heart would help.
It did... Kinda
Long story short; Agatha's consciousness transferred over thanks to an ability of hers, but she made it seem she was a failure so they'd throw her away.
Did not go as planned.
Why? The dragon half-blood got attached to her, as her circumstances where similar to his own. So he kept her around and tried to teach her magic
Again, did not go as planned
Mostly cause Agatha did not trust DHB, and Bernard started suspecting Agatha was faking her comatose state.
Eventually Agatha had to quit the act because she was actually learning from watching DHB and Bernard. And White Star quicky exposed her when he visited.
When Agatha makes it clear she has no intentions of obeying anyone, Arm decides to just feed her heart to the DHB
But Cale flips over the empire before that can happen.
Needless to say but he is very angry that one of his first allies(kids) got stuck in the Alchemist Tower for a year.
Agatha no longer as the Flow attribute, not that she could use it, instead she gains an attitude called Root.
Root is the opposite of Flow, while Ophelia can view future events, Agatha can view past key events. However, her foresight isn't nearly as clear as Ophelia's, as she had 150 years to perfect her ability.
One thing that's different another Agatha's attribute is that's she's familiar with it.
One of her main abilities as Kim Soo Jin was called Imprint. If someone made a significant enough impact in her life, then a sort of momento would manifest. Wether it be an aspect of her personally, or an ability or something else. Although she has to be able to see that ability working for it to Imprint on her.
Root feels extremely familiar to Imprint. And now she's wondering if she somehow always had an attribute or if her ability turning into her attribute.
She has not told Cale she kinda accidentally copied all of Team 1's abilities, including his.
This will be relevant later when she joins the war 🙃
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sybmecomics · 2 years ago
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This is how you get a Midwife in NZ! There's been a severe shortage of Midwives in NZ due to low pay, little support and burn outs. If you're pregnant in NZ, finding midwife is your no'1 priority! In an ideal world, you should be able to choose the best Midwife for you without any compromises, and switch whenever you want! (I've had friends switch their midwives two weeks before birth) But you may not get someone you like. It's a fine balance of having the best care you deserve, versus what is available to you. There are no rights or wrongs, you do the best you can with what you have. DHB Community Midwife Team is amazing too. It just means you might not have the same midwife every visit, but honestly, it all depends! Best to look at reviews, and always. Always advocate for yourself and your baby. It's okay to change if you feel your LMC isn't looking after you. They're human too. My hard line was that my midwife would respect my decision and never pressure or push me. I wanted a birth in the hospital with allllll the painkillers. And to some people, this isn't for them. I respect that, but I needed my midwife to respect this and not judge or bully me into doing what they wanted me to do. Did/do you have a hard boundary about your birth?
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wirinformieren · 11 months ago
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Sensation bleibt aus: DHB-Team scheitert im EM-Halbfinale.
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Die Hoffnungen auf ein deutsches Handball-Wintermärchen bei der Heim-EM zerschlugen sich, als das DHB-Team im Halbfinale auf die übermächtigen Dänen traf. Trotz eines beeindruckenden Kampfes unterlag die Mannschaft von Bundestrainer Alfred Gislason mit 26:29. Ein Blick auf die Ereignisse, den Verlauf des Spiels und die Auswirkungen auf die weitere EM-Teilnahme Deutschlands.
Dänemark zieht ins Finale ein
Deutschlands Handballer standen kurz vor einer Sensation, als sie sich im Halbfinale der Heim-EM den Dänen gegenüber sahen. Trotz eines starken Kampfes und eines vielversprechenden Auftritts verlor das DHB-Team mit 26:29 gegen den skandinavischen Titel-Favoriten. Der Traum von einer Goldmedaille bei der Heim-EM zerplatzte, als Dänemark ins Finale einzog.
Duell um Bronze gegen Schweden
Nach dem verpassten Finaleinzug steht für Deutschland nun das Spiel um die Bronzemedaille an. Voraussichtlich wird das DHB-Team am Sonntag gegen Schweden antreten. Ein wichtiger Aspekt des Spiels ist nicht nur die Medaille, sondern auch ein potenzielles Direktticket für die Olympischen Sommerspiele in Paris. Die Entscheidung über das Duell mit Schweden steht noch aus.
Verlauf des Halbfinals
Die Dänen hatten sich im Halbfinale zunächst den Franzosen geschlagen geben müssen, legten jedoch wenig später Protest gegen die Wertung ein. Während Deutschland um den Einzug ins Finale kämpfte, war die Unsicherheit über den finalen Gegner noch präsent. In einem intensiven Spiel zeigte das DHB-Team großen Einsatz, aber letztendlich konnte es den erfahrenen Dänen nicht standhalten.
Vergebene Chance auf den dritten EM-Titel
Deutschland, das 2004 in Slowenien und vor acht Jahren in Polen den EM-Titel holte, muss weiterhin auf seinen dritten Triumph warten. Trotzdem bietet sich dem DHB-Team erstmals seit fünf Jahren wieder die Chance auf eine Medaille. Damals verlor Deutschland bei der Heim-WM das kleine Finale gegen Frankreich und wurde Vierter. Renars Uscins war mit fünf Toren bester Werfer im Halbfinale.
Gislasons Erwartungen und die magische Hoffnung der Spieler
Vor dem entscheidenden Spiel hatte Bundestrainer Alfred Gislason von seiner Mannschaft "das beste Spiel der letzten Jahrzehnte" gefordert. Die Spieler hofften auf einen "magischen Tag", um die Dänen zu überraschen. Tatsächlich zeigte die deutsche Sieben im Kölner Hexenkessel zunächst einen beeindruckenden Auftritt. Die Abwehr stand kompakt, die Chancenverwertung war verbessert, und Dänemark wirkte gegen die auftrumpfenden DHB-Profis ideenlos.
Ein Hauch von Magie in der ersten Halbzeit
Die deutsche Mannschaft war hellwach und zwang das nordeuropäische Star-Ensemble zu zahlreichen technischen Fehlern. Die Handball-Übermacht Dänemark geriet ins Wanken, und die Zuschauer begleiteten jeden Angriff der Dänen mit einem gellenden Pfeifkonzert. Deutschland hielt seine knappe Führung, unterstützt von Torhüter Andi Wolff und einer soliden Abwehrleistung.
Lob für die erste Halbzeit
Zur Halbzeit lobte DHB-Sportvorstand Axel Kromer den Mut der deutschen Mannschaft. Die Partie war geprägt von Intensität, Emotionen und einer gnadenlosen Abwehr. Renars Uscins, der U21-Weltmeister, setzte viele erfolgreiche Akzente und erwies sich als Phönix aus der Asche. Trotz des Lobes standen die deutschen Handballer vor einer anspruchsvollen zweiten Halbzeit.
Wendepunkt nach der Halbzeit
Unmittelbar nach dem Wiederanpfiff verließ der Mut die deutsche Mannschaft, und Dänemark drehte das Spiel. Die überragenden Paraden von Torhüter Andi Wolff verhinderten jedoch, dass der Weltmeister komplett davonzog. Das DHB-Team fing sich kurzzeitig wieder, die Abwehr bewegte sich erstklassig, und die Kölner Arena erlebte ein Wechselbad der Gefühle.
Nielsens Höchstform und das Ende der Träume
Auf dänischer Seite zeigte Keeper Emil Nielsen in der zweiten Halbzeit eine beeindruckende Leistung und vereitelte einen deutschen Angriff nach dem anderen. Die deutsche Mannschaft kämpfte, wirkte jedoch erschöpft. Die flüssigen Bewegungen aus der ersten Halbzeit waren verschwunden. Rund 14 Minuten vor Spielende ging Dänemark erstmals mit drei Toren in Führung und baute diese bis zum Schluss aus. Der Traum von einer Goldmedaille bei der Heim-EM war endgültig zerstört.
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musialawirtzrichten · 3 years ago
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rune ‘og schnittchen’ dahmke ist endgültig mein uwe ersatz
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jockifotopress · 1 year ago
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Christoph Steinert bei EM
Heute ist die Generalprobe bei der Handball-EM für das DHB-Team gegen die Nationalmannschaft aus Portugal. Mit dabei ist Christoph Steinert vom HC Erlangen. Die ARD überträgt live um 16 Uhr aus der Flens-Arena in Flensburg.
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theswizzle16 · 11 months ago
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i’m gonna need all the besties to win tomorrow or i will die
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slackerlifewhere · 7 months ago
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What Kim Rok Soo probably thinks about Cale Henituse
Okay, so I mentioned that I'm rereading the first part now so I can finally read the second part of the novel.
While reading, I noticed how calm and normal Kim Rok Soo is about Cale. Like yeah, he finds him amusing and interesting, but coming from a man who has read five volumes and notices (and remembers) every little detail about it, it makes me wonder what he truly thinks about Cale Henituse.
[✋Possible SPOILERS for the first part of TCF ✋]
As I reread the story in the first few chapters, despite how little Cale Henituse's importance is in The Birth of a Hero or how few his appearances are since it focuses on Choi Han's adventure, Kim Rok Soo somehow describes moments that make Cale look like trash but it's like he understands why the noble was like that before they switched bodies (except for the Harris village since he didn't know about that until OG Cale mentions it).
Like think about it. We all know KRS grew up with his abusive uncle. He knows how bad it is to live with an alcoholic but he doesn't judge Cale's antics when he's "drunk". We also know that he's been alone most of his life so he probably thinks that Cale is just a lonely person because of his reputation.
Guessing that there are some assholes during the apocalypse (I haven't read the side stories yet but I can guess), he probably thinks that Cale is more complex than what he shows in the books because he has seen the worst kind of people that makes Cale look like a normal person. After switching bodies, Venion, White Star, Arm, and Adin are definitely 1000% worse than Cale.
Kim Rok Soo is very sharp when it comes to understanding people. He understands Choi Han and Alberu's problems and understands the trauma the kids went through. He also understands how corrupt nobles and priests are and doesn't judge Mary and the Dark Elves all because of a stupid religion. He understands how hard it was for Lock during the war and was comforting about it his own weird way.
He's a perceptive and understanding person.
Although he's incredibly bad at judging himself, he's good at judging a person through their motives and actions. It's why he somehow befriends Toonka and Bud. It's why he became allies with Hannah and Fredo. It's why he quietly listens to DHB later on. He understands people and it's why people like and trust him.
In short, he knows that there's something more than what the books say about Cale Henituse.
It's kind of the reason why it made me pause a bit when he finally meets OG Cale.
Their conversation was so calm, it's as if they knew each other for a very long time instead of just literally a few minutes ago. He easily accepted what OG Cale has to say about his mother and his new life as Kim Rok Soo and he trusts him with his former team. Like I've mentioned before in my other post, he's happy for both of them because they're both content with their new lives despite their regrets in their last lives.
Cale looked at Kim Rok Soo, who was laughing and making gestures that he would never have made, and nonchalantly added on.
“I guess you’ve really been happy.”
He recalled the moment he met with Lee Soo Hyuk and got the ‘Embrace’ ability.
Lee Soo Hyuk had handed Cale the ability and told him about the real Cale Henituse as he disappeared.
‘Oh, by the way, the original owner of your body is living well too. He’s happy. That is why Jung Soo, I, and everybody is happy.’
Kim Rok Soo had a bright smile that suited a twenty-year-old person and not someone in his mid-thirties.
- Chapter 656: Everything can be connected
I'm guessing that when he read the parts about Cale throwing bottles at a random asshole in the books, he probably thought that he might do the same thing. Remember how badly he reacted when he learned about the slaves being sent to the Empire? He basically used the same tactic but instead of throwing the bottle at someone, he drank a lot because of how pissed he was and made it look like the "trash" he is while waiting for everyone's signal.
He even has some thoughts about how annoyed he is whenever the knights or butlers would flinch away since he knows Cale never tried to actually harm them. And he knows about Cale's troubles with the staff back home in the Henituse territory.
So yeah, it's pretty sweet in a way that Cale Henituse has someone who kind of understands him and won't judge him for his actions even though Kim Rok Soo doesn't know everything about him because of the books (like his conversation with Basen).
“It looks like you will need to struggle a little longer, but anyway, live well. Please take care of my family.”
“Please take care of my team members.”
Both men let go of each other’s hand with a small amount of sorrow visible in their eyes.
- Chapter 657: Everything can be connected
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🥊 Leadership meets Sports Martin Strobel geht nach 17 Jahren Hochleistungshandball zukünftig neue Wege. Er hat seinen Kindheitstraum leben können. Das ist ein echtes Privileg. Die Erkenntnisse, die er im Sport gesammelt bleiben aber nicht verborgen. Hierzu gibt es auch bald schon ein Buch - darauf können wir uns alle freuen. Zukünftig wird er Teams und Unternehmen begleiten. Ein noch größerer Gewinn für Unternehmen, Führungskräfte und Wirtschaft. Freuen wir uns alle darauf. #martinstrobel #lmsexperten #team #teambuilding #kultur #handball #dhb (hier: Ulm in Germany) https://www.instagram.com/p/B8b_rIlo5q5/?igshid=mipejh2cmjfq
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en24news · 5 years ago
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Germany defeated Portugal at the European Handball Championship: DHB team finished fifth
Germany defeated Portugal at the European Handball Championship: DHB team finished fifth
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The German handball players finish the EM with a sense of achievement and in fifth place. On Saturday, national coach Christian Prokop’s DHB selection wins a long, close, intense and exciting game against Portugal. All information for reading in the ticker. Germany – Portugal 29:27 (14:13) Watch the Handball European Championship online with Waipu.tv (advertisement)
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sweetdreamspootypie · 4 years ago
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intimate partner abuse cw //
It just occurred to me that in my time on clinical placements with community nurses (6 weeks total), the staff I’ve worked with have been car-jacked twice. 
Which. Sounds bonkers when I phrase it like that. And yet it’s true.
Both times it was a gf/bf/ex/partner of a patient that was getting aggressive and stalking them or something and somehow decided a good tactic would be to get into the car of the community nurse coming to see their partner/ex. (So not someone stealing the car)
So obviously the nurse and the patient then get out of the car and just... deal with it. Sometimes other members of the community nursing team come to help. Sometimes they deal with it alone (after calling to inform their team of the situation).
I’m currently researching for an assignment on de-escalation and aggression management DHB policies. So much of the policy is what I would call common sense - because of course everyone will be better off if you make an effort to prevent agitating people - and yet it’s so important to specify. Because what is common sense when you get car-jacked? Is there a DHB policy? Do you call the cops? or is that too inflammatory? Do you even need to if de-escalation is supposed to be part of your job? If the cop does come do they threaten them or talk to them? Do you talk to the person yourself or not engage? 
I don’t know the answers, and I don’t know what was done by the staff I worked with - step 1 (well, step 3) of de-escalation is try to reduce the number of bystanders complicating the issue, so I didn’t go along with the “rescue” team.
But I’m so curious how similar issues are handled in different places. NZ has similar structural issues with our police force as other countries do, but ours have a generally better reputation and are putting an effort into branding themselves as responsive and diverse (even if central command is still a fuckfest and they keep trying to sneakily arm themselves without asking permission). But what do nurses in the US do? other countries? What are the outcomes?
Is being car-jacked just part of the deal when you get into community nursing that just gets shrugged off as a wonky Monday but shocks outsiders?
and most of all
why do shithead exes think having a sit-in in the community nurse’s car will achieve anything for them?
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