#Chainless slaves

[silence-iz-violence]

The Groomer Doc - unwelcome-ozian/ UWO/ U.W Ozain is a predator

All the screenshots and posts regarding the grooming allegations against unwelcome-ozian (UWO / U.W. Ozain) in one place. Its a Google doc.

[unwelcome-ozian]

I truly cannot tell if you’re trying to teach others to program in your book “chaiess slaves”

Hello,

I’ve been asked this sort of question previously as well as others have expressed concerns about the information in Chainless slaves.

Chainless Slaves and the information provided isn’t information for teaching others. The book doesn’t provide enough detailed information to program someone.

When writing the book some of my thoughts were; people who know how to program don’t need the information. Those who support survivors need the information. Survivors need the information.  Abusers don’t tend to research how to be ‘better’ abusers. 

Someone can learn about programming, but not how to program to the level Chainless Slaves is addressing.

Thank you for sharing your thoughts,

Oz

[whathappensintherapy-official]

It pisses me off

That all the resources on RAMCOA programming are sexist as hell, like, you know girls can be trained to anally violate and physically injure males, right? And boys can be trained to seduce/corrupt, right?

But Nooooooooo, it’s fucking ALWAYS the boys rape and kill, the girls *seduce.*🤮

AFAB and blood is a mating signal, and by mating I mean shoving my (then phantom) dick and or hands and or tongue as far up a male ass as I can. Doesn’t matter whose as long as he’s skinny and doesn’t enjoy it on a physical level.

Cat alters were some of my earliest. BIG cats. Lions, jaguars. But I was a cub, and cubs don’t mate. Props to my coven for being a little more creative than your average chud Cats = Sex nonsense. Artemisian Hellenismos vigilantes don’t do things like that.

—Ayesha

[the-monarch-effect-official]

https://youtu.be/_mVPLEgIalk

This is Part 5 of the "Programmed" series by YouTuber Probably Alexandria. This is the most cohesive summary I've found so far, which greatly helps on the awareness front.

[creature-wizard]

Fritz Springmeier and Cisco Wheeler: Two Of The Most Dangerous Conspiracy Theorists Most People Have Never Heard Of

Fritz Springmeier is a conspiracy theorist who has written a number of absolute doorstoppers (the content of his books is poorly arranged and highly repetitive) claiming the existence of a global satanic cult that secretly controls the world - basically, your typical Protocols of Zion redux shit. Some of his books were written with Cisco Wheeler, a(n alleged) multiple system he claims to have deprogrammed from Illuminati mind control in 1994. Their work has been deeply influential on today's general belief in alter programming. Even if you've never read Wheeler and Springmeier's work directly, you may have come across their ideas. If you've seen anything about jewel programming, flower programming, alpha/beta/delta/epsilon programming, etc.? That's from them. Writers such as Unwelcome Ozian and Svali get their material from their work (in fact, Unwelcome Ozian's book Chainless Slaves literally copypastes some of their material), and people such as Ellen P. Lacter and Alison Miller of the ISSTD/RAMCOA-SIG frequently cite Svali. Furthermore, their work has had a huge impact on David Icke's reptilian alien conspiracy theories.

Here's a selection (yes, seriously, the following wall of text is only a small sample) of their claims from their trilogy series on Illuminati mind control (They Know Not What They Do - An Illustrated Guide To Monarch Mind Control, The Illuminati Formula Used To Create An Undetectable Total Mind Controlled Slave, and Deeper Insights Into The Illuminati Formula), which they wrote/published in the mid to late 1990's:

The Illuminati is a multi-generational satanic cult made up of thirteen elite bloodlines, who are working behind the scenes to enthrone the Antichrist in the year 2000. (It's been over twenty years, still no Antichrist.)

The Illuminati is behind the French Revolution and the Abolition movement. (Conspiracy theories invented by people who were pro-monarchy and pro-slavery.)

The Illuminati is pushing for gay rights as part of their plan to bring the Antichrist into power.

The Illuminati creates effeminate gay men by dosing pregnant mothers with progesterone and estrogen.

The Illuminati practices "trauma-based mind control," which in this context refers to an alleged (and very unsubstantiated) practice of inflicting brutal tortures to trigger the formation of alters, which will be programmed for various tasks, and made accessible to programmers via special codes and triggers.

TBMC practices often (though not always) take the form of satanic rituals. (Evil is always very, very theatrical in the minds of conspiracy theorists.)

The Illuminati's rituals are "based upon the most ancient mystery religions," because "one of the secrets of the Mystery Religions, especially the Egyptian Isis mystery religion was the ability to use drugs and torture to create multiple personalities." (Citation needed, Fritz.)

The European witch hunts were actually justified, because Europe was full of satanic practitioners of trauma-based mind control. (Seriously, what kind of ghoul claims the witch hunts were in any way justified?)

The Nazis' eugenics program wasn't actually about eugenics. It was actually a front for researching mind control, and that Project Monarch was based on research conducted by Dr. Josef Mengele, whom they claim was an "adept in Caballistic magic" assisted by "Askenazi hasidic black magic adepts." (This is a variation on the claim that Jews actually orchestrated the Holocaust)

Groups that are part of the Illuminati and practice Monarch mind control include (but are not limited to) The Catholic Church/Jesuits, Mormons, Assembly of God churches, the Watchtower Society, Hasidic Judaism, modern witchcraft, Druidry, Santeria, Freemasons, Golden Dawn, NASA, and professional baseball. (I think we can agree that some of these groups are very harmful, but that doesn't mean they're part of this conspiracy he's talking about.)

There are many different types of Monarch alter programming, including but not limited to gem programming, elemental programming, flower programming, color programming, Gumby programming, beehive programming, sex kitten programming, Greek letter programming, carousel programming, demon programming, alien programming, Mensa programming, Atlantis programming, paper doll programming, tumbleweed programming, waterjar shaking programming, Cinderella programming - it goes on.

"Body programs" can be installed to cause hearing problems, circulation issues, headaches, digestive problems, heart failure - basically, all those health problems that people who aren't conspiracy theorists would explain through allergies, stress, mental illness, or just common flaws of the human body.

Most slaves have "end-time programming," and will be activated to round up and kill opponents of the NWO when the time comes from the Antichrist to take power. (Again, it's been over twenty years.

Cisco Wheeler was programmed to be part of the Antichrist's elite imperial guard.

They claim, and I quote, "drugs, torture, hypnosis and MPD all work to enhance memory" and "most slaves have some photographic memory capability." They also claim that systemwide photographic memory can be created through brain stem scarring. (Conspiracy theorists literally made this up.)

The brains of Monarch slaves are more active than normal people's brains, because both sides of the Monarch slave's brain work simultaneously. (Both sides of everyone's brains are working all the time, that is literally how brains work.)

Mind control implants have been a thing since the 1960's. One woman had an implant disguised as a pubic hair. JZ Knight had an audio implant in her teeth that activated her to become a New Age leader. Microchip implants can affect DNA growth. "Fiber optic" mind control devices can be shot into the skin from a distance. (You can tell they rely on their audience to not understand anything about electronics in addition to neuroscience.)

Switching alters can literally change the color of your eyes. (It's impossible for someone's eyes to instantly switch color in the same way it's impossible for their skin to instantly change color.)

Fairy tales, fantasy media, movies, and television shows are full of deliberate programming. Some (but not all) of the media Springmeier and Wheeler implicate includes The Wizard of Oz, The Chronicles of Narnia, Alice in Wonderland, Disney films in general, A Little Princess, Star Trek, Star Wars, E.T., Tiny Toons, The Simpsons, Frankenstein, Bewitched, and Labyrinth.

Basically, any piece of entertainment that isn't morally pure from a far right Christian perspective is part of the Illuminati's plan to corrupt the youth and lead them down the patch of witchcraft and into satanism.

The story of the Golem is actually about a mind-controlled slave, and that "the main goal of the Cabala is to create a mind-controlled slave called a golem." Also, the Brothers Grimm were "Cabalistic Jews." (For a guy who insists he's not antisemitic, Fritz Springmeier sure likes to accuse people of being Jewish and demonize Jewish stuff.)

Famous Illuminati slaves include (but are not limited to) Marilyn Monroe, Elvis Presley, Roseanne Barr, Bette Midler, Madonna, and the Beatles. They claim Charles Manson was programmed with Beatles music.

(List break here because this whole thing was longer than Tumblr's allowed block length. Again, I emphasize, I am only posting a small sample of the BS they put in their books.)

The Illuminati's intelligence agencies have programmed "thousands upon thousands of slaves." The Naval Ordinance Test Station at China Lake was actually a Monarch programming facility, where thousands of babies were kept in cages. "Lots of 1000 babies was a small batch," and "many batches were 2000 or 3000 babies."

The average Monarch system is programmed with 1000 alters.

The Illuminati prefers to program blond, blue-eyed children without visible body defects or scars. (Funny how these conspiracy theorists keep claiming to hate white supremacy, then insist blond, blue-eyed children are special targets.)

The Illuminati has no trouble finding sadistic torturers because, and I quote, "essentially all human males can be taught to engage in sadistic behavior." In fact, the Illuminati's Mothers of Darkness are often necessary to make sure the male torturers don't go too far.

The Illuminati used chimpanzees to physically torture children. (The pair of them clearly do not understand how strong chimpanzees actually are.)

Babies can learn to read by six months old with the use of subliminal tapes.

Learning to write backwards makes you more likely to dissociate. (Bizarre variant on old 'Satan does things backwards to mock God' canard.)

Failed Monarch programming/TBMC causes autism. Autism is when children withdraw from the world and retreat into themselves. (If there's two things we know about autism, it's that it's not traumagenic, and it's not about withdrawing from the world to retreat into your own mind.)

If you hang someone upside down long enough, they will begin to reverse pain and pleasure. Yeah, supposedly, if you physically reverse a person's body, their mind will start reversing, too. This, apparently, is how we get kinksters who like pain.

Scars can be made more visible via hypnotic command, and this has been a thing in the occult world for centuries. (Modern version of the Devil's Mark/witch's tit myth.)

Moles are a sign of prior electroshock torture. (Another modern version of the Devil's mark/witch's tit myth.)

King Hezekiah - yes, the Biblical King Hezekiah - was a child victim of satanic ritual abuse. (Of course the Bible chapter they cite - 2 Chronicles 29 - mentions nothing of the sort.)

Direct quote, "Vice-President Al Gore is a vampire and carries a briefcase of blood with him." (Modern conspiracy theorists love to sling blood libel at Democrats.)

Hillary Clinton is an Illuminati Grand Dame and programmer. (Gotta accuse those Democrat women of being witches.)

Roma people practice cannibalism. (Pure anti-Romani racism.)

The Illuminati has the cure for AIDS.

Adrenochrome is a secret black market drug. (This is a modern form of blood libel.)

Snuff pornography is a real thing. (It's really not.)

Being on Prozac makes you susceptible to becoming homicidal or suicidal if you're exposed to certain electromagnetic frequencies. The Illuminati is deliberately exposing people to these frequencies to increase these behaviors in order to get anti-gun legislation passed.

Cellphone towers emit electromagnetic frequencies that can control people's minds.

Putting one's hands behind one's head is a secret Illuminati hand signal meaning "I'm master." Folding one's hands is a secret Illuminati symbol for "you can't break the circle." Thumb-twiddling is an Illuminati hand signal for S&M. Other normal, everyday hand positions/gestures/movements are given equally conspiratorial explanations.

The "Vulcan peace sign" is an Illuminati/occult greeting. (This claim isn't just demonizing Star Trek - it's antisemitic.)

High-ranking members of the Illuminati hold fancy cannibal dinner parties and feed children to lions and tigers.

Lots and lots of child sacrifice happens. There's even rituals where children sacrifice other children and eat their hearts.

The shape of your skull affects your personality, and the Illuminati creates permanent personality changes by changing the shapes of people's skulls. (This is literally phrenology, which is pseudoscience.)

The Illuminati implants real, actual demons into victims, which can only be removed through Christian deliverance. Also, accepting Jesus as one's Lord and Savior is the only way for victims to truly heal, no ifs, ands, buts, or maybes.

Down's Syndrome can be cured with cranial manipulation. (Craniosacral therapy is quackery.)

Many people diagnosed with schizophrenia have actually been given implants by the government.

Ronald Reagan is "our future president." (Yes, Fritz Springmeier wrote these words during the Clinton administration.)

The US government has built 140 massive underground bases for various purposes, including housing "several varieties of aliens."

The Illuminati has been creating human clones and biological robot doubles for years, and has created such doubles for politicians such as Jimmy Carter. (Allegations of clones and duplicates goes back to the witch hunts, where witch hunters would claim Satan conjured up doubles for witches so their families wouldn't miss them while they went to the witches' sabbath. Also, it's a form of dehumanization.)

Therapists treating victims of alter programming/trauma-based mind control should separate their clients from their programmer (read: isolate them from friends, family, and acquaintances) and hold multi-hour therapy sessions to help them remember their abuse and discover their hidden alters (read: make sure they're constantly exposed to this narrative so they'll start to internalize it and begin "remembering" what you want). Wheeler outright says that the "better therapists" will wear down their clients with lengthy question and answer sessions. She recommends having a team of therapists to work on a single client, with a female mother figure and male father figure.

Depression is a sin that comes from a lack of faith.

Trance-Formation of America is a good example of how mind control victims are treated. (Trance-Formation of America is also part of the Project Monarch/alter programming conspiracy theory.)

Full quote, "All Illuminati victims of mind-control have been terrorized by their abusers about how God hates them and how God will punish them for their badness." (In other words, much of what these people are chalking up to alter programming/TBMC can very easily be explained by religious trauma from being brought up in a conservative Christian environment.)

Again, these are the types of claims made by the two people from which all of this stuff about all of these specific types of alter programming, body programs, etc. originate. Whether or not people on RAMCOA sites acknowledge Springmeier and Wheeler outright, much the stuff they're claiming can very much be traced back to them.

Now, some of you reading this might still be wondering whether the alter programming could more than a conspiracy theory; like, maybe there's actually people out there who are really doing this, even if they aren't involved in some grand sinister conspiracy. And the answer is still no.

First, this conspiracy theory effectively proposes that there was an epidemic of people engaging in this very specific practice back during a time period when the most that people knew about DID (if they knew about DID at all) came from from the Sybil book or movie (and the real "Sybil" never had DID); or even before that point, if we include the people who claimed they were programmed in the 40's-60's. The idea that all of these unconnected people all independently came up with this is simply beyond absurd. If this was a real practice being done out there by any significant number of people at all, extensive technical literature describing the procedures in full detail would have to exist. This literature would at some point have been found in the homes, workplaces, etc. of programmers. Alter programming has allegedly been practiced since at least the 1940s, and not a single piece of this literature has ever been found anywhere; not on the most depraved 4Chan user's computer, not in the edgiest occultist's library, and not in the home of any child molesting priest. The only literature that describes these supposed practices comes from conspiracy theorists, and they aren't nearly detailed enough to constitute any kind of actual manual. It's very telling that when Fritz Springmeier et al name books that supposedly contain this sort of information, the books either contain nothing of the sort (for example, old grimoires), or have no evidence of ever existing in the first place.

And while it's true that extreme trauma can cause dissociation and the formation of alters, that's about the only thing this conspiracy theory gets right. Everything else is like some kind of edgy sci-fi take on it, about as accurate to real neuroscience as Jaws is to real sharks. The people who thought they saw evidence of "structured DID" back in the day made a similar error to the people who look at natural hills and mountains and think they're seeing ancient pyramids, or look at Bimini Road and actually think it's a real man-made road rather than a natural rock formation. People would look at someone having literally any trauma response or distress behavior (which may or may not have actually involved DID or OSDD), and think they were seeing the work of some diabolical mastermind. Basically, it's a form of pareidolia. The therapists would share their beliefs with their patients, who would internalize it in their own minds, and come back with stuff that seemed to confirm their therapists' suspicions.

What's going on here is a pretty straightforward case of confabulated memory cultivation. This kind of thing happens all the time in places like the New Age starseed movement, where people start learning New Age mythology and what kind of alien beings they supposedly could have been in a past life. Whether through hypnosis, vivid dreams, or even incredibly vivid flashes of mental imagery out of the blue, people begin "remembering" supposed lost memories that simply cannot be real because real historical evidence contradicts them at nearly every turn. You can see examples of this for yourself over here and over here.

Confabulated memory cultivation isn't really practiced on purpose, per se; at least, not typically. What happens is you have people who legitimately believe that they can retrieve lost memories, whether from their childhoods or from a past life. And unlike literature that tells you how to program alters, literature that describes methods to supposedly retrieve lost memories exists in abundance. People have made jobs out of allegedly helping people retrieve lost memories ever since people believed that was a thing they could do.

The alter programming conspiracy theory was part of a mental health fad where people believed that repressed memories were the root cause of many ordinary mental and physical health problems. Symptoms of anxiety, depression, chronic stress, PTSD, C-PTSD, BPD, schizophrenia, bipolar, autism, ADHD, allergies, mast cell activation syndrome, fibromyalgia, and more are all chalked up to repressed memories and alter programming. Very, very tellingly, many of the symptoms described in this type of literature are exactly what you'd expect from religious trauma in a conservative Christian environment. In fact, the alter programming conspiracy theory implicitly denies that it would be possible to develop serious trauma from the kind of abusive parenting that conservative Christian culture encourages and condones.

Also, the fact that the ISSTD/RAMCOA SIG continues propagating the claims made by Springmeier and Wheeler definitively shows us that the purpose of ISSTD/RAMCOA-SIG is repackaging Satanic Panic and far right conspiracy theories more generally, and that the very term "Ritual Abuse, Mind Control, & Organized Abuse" is in fact a Trojan horse intended to slip all of this stuff back into legitimate psychological discourse and discussions of systemic abuse, religious abuse, human trafficking, etc. The fact that people cannot question RAMCOA without being accused of denying these things shows that this is working out really well for the the ISSTD/RAMCOA SIG right now.

I'd like to emphasize that I am not trying to say that people who were led to believe they were victims of alter programming haven't been severely abused in some way, or that none of them have DID. This conspiracy theory is very much built to prey on these sorts of people. The point I am making is that it is indeed a conspiracy theory, and that it harms many people, both with and without DID.

Now, I know there's some folks out there who have been led to believe that real evidence of widespread alter programming or even widespread ritual abuse (ie, the practice of abusive occultic rituals) were found, but conservative Christians simply co-opted real events to attack the people they didn't like. And that simply isn't what happened. It was the conspiracy theorists - people like Dr. Lawrence Pazder and Mike Warnke - who positioned themselves as ritual abuse experts and instructed police and therapists on what to look out for. It was always a literal witch hunt from the very beginning.

If you are looking for any kind of mental health support, or wish to talk about real forms of abuse, I strongly recommend avoiding terms like Satanic Ritual Abuse, Ritual Abuse, Mind Control, & Organized Abuse, Organized Abuse, Organized Extreme Abuse, Ritual Abuse, Mind Control, Trauma-Based Mind Control, and so on, because these are all terms created and used by conspiracy theorists. We have other terms to talk about real abuse, including spiritual abuse, religious abuse, systemic abuse, institutional abuse, sexual abuse, sex trafficking, and so on.

Likewise, if you see someone using these terms, you know that their information is downstream from conspiracy theorists, and therefore, is highly suspect. If you're looking for any sort of mental health/trauma support whatsoever, be very wary whenever you see someone using them. Even if they mean well, what they're putting out there is still contaminated by the myths and misinformation of the Satanic Panic, which will never support actual healing.

[granulesofsand]

Do you have sources for any of the things you've been talking about lately (the different programming types, hc-did, basically all of it)? I'd really like to do some more reading on this stuff but I've found a grand total of One book and most of the rest of the stuff is social media posts with no references, or references to other social media posts :(

Our top three “sources” are usually our system, late night conversations with irl friends, and social media.

The biggest issue isn’t actually a lack of resources, but a lack of good resources. Survivors put out material before they realize they got something wrong. The clinicians that work with us are the same, and the first generation of papers were shots in the dark and fear of lies that hadn’t been exposed yet.

There’ll be a lot about a big, networked Cult, usually either the Illuminati or Luciferians. Plenty of government conspiracy theories, references to projects that sometimes do get evidence. Then there’s the regular racism and Christian lens.

If you’re looking for overviews and definitions, they got taken down here are some good websites:

https://www.ra-free.org/complexities-of-identifying-ritual-abuse - not a lot of information, lists studies and professionals

https://endritualabuse.org/full-article-index/ - lots of good articles, some really helpful, others had me cocking my head

https://www.cherylrainfield.com/articles-cult-abuse/ - more about the author than the issue, some useful links on that page

There used to be more. Two others, one about spin programming and one about colors, are still up, but a little out there. You’ll know if you see them

Some books with more details. Not good books, just books:

https://ia803208.us.archive.org/34/items/BecomingYourself.Miller/BecomingYourself.Miller.pdf - the single best thing I’ve found and I still have complaints, this version is unformatted but free

https://ia803400.us.archive.org/28/items/chainless-slaves-annotated/Chainless%20Slaves%20-%20Annotated.pdf - I didn’t like it, lots of certain language for iffy concepts, has a list of programs and alter roles

https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/document?repid=rep1&type=pdf&doi=89e823aedc9c69ffd8d715757c86878af27c37c9 - not a fan, also lots of funky ideas and hate-based rhetoric, has lists of programs and cues

There are lots of survivor autobiographies and outsider opinions, but I don’t have free links to those

Keep in mind that getting out of a high control group sucks ass, and most accounts (even if they claim to have healed) have the remnants of the abusive ideologies.

I still prefer hearing from other survivors what happened, and I find it easier to validate people I can easily contact. I’ll keep the webpage if I find anything I can’t just Google, but this is what I can pull right now.

It’s not great, buddy, but it’s something.

[egressparadox]

the Dionysiacs' and the Gamemasters

the independently wealthy occults, and their transactors, beneficiaries. something not quite separate nor of, the underworld, the elite, or the politician. the covet, of fascinations and obsessions, achievable only by great wealth, decipherable only to great minds, and yieldable only by the best contacts.

vassaleid is the humanist, or the egoist, all too common, most often they are along for the game, to be played, by the head of covet, which in these games often yearns for the more refined taste, of purgatory, inferno, or paradise.

these heads of covet, cult leaders, or "lords", often understand the charade quite well, and are satiated enough with one twist, or perversion of the environment they have made in wealth and power, these are called orgiest terrariums. seldom do these games, exit the terrarium. the adequate trust.

politic, is what the bored and powerful mind craves, when all other games of the elite are pawned into labour, the economic, the sociologic. so, our more deliberate gamemaster(s), will find in order to budge, then bend all without breaking, this "adequate trust"

alpha) in order for a gamemaster to come into play, he must bluff, his mutual grade, in this psychological BDSM. his reveal must be slow, surgical, and personal. peeling behind the gamemaster, cannot yield THE nothing, the game alone, can not be the revelation until the final pass. He must be many masks in tandem.

beta) the players, will be directed by actors, to act upon one another, another peeling revelation. until they are brought in designed groups, to oppose the orgy hall itself. where it will now play as antagonist against all players, including the gamemaster.

gamma) offer the escape, of new politic, now burdened by the tax, of the hall. a game of players, set against the actors of the hall, and by the rules of the game, that in failure means rapture, and in success means revelation.

delta) deliberately manipulate, the insight, and the experience, the new life within and after the game. as it is cultivated in order to ostracize it, where they see towers, the game master must see dominos, or braided sticks.

zed) the game manifested perfectly will peel all folds to the last, "nothing" all at once. a designed "automatic punchbowl" . suddenly, the contract has expired, the fine print, in the seams of the contracts verbal and inked. for record and document suddenly come into play. the people that they were driven to become, forced. linked to that new life, is suddenly the only true self before them. they will either fall themselves, hail beneath, or rise above and drift away. crafting fine and fragile pieces , set, for the next game.

outlier alpha ) the other gamemasters, who come in three's

the card thief, who means to identify and usurp the gamemaster entirely. who may fail initially, to identify the correct / original .

the rogue player, the stubborn spy, who means to "win" the game, by whatever they can classify as a victory.

the absurdist, who only moves and plays the cards as they appear, a chaotic factor and upset, virtually un identifiable.

outlier beta ) the objector to the game, true lawful

outlier gamma ) the sanctifier / crusader, a juxtaposed outlier, who will either convince the game into its suicide or who will simply purge it outright.

nigh non quantifiable itemization occurs, upon the collaboration and collective of unique gamemasters. who bear countless chainless slaves, and trade them like tokens, by directing the game.

[unwelcome-ozian]

Hello, I hope you're doing well. I wanted to ask you if you could upload your digital book chainless slaves once more. I had it on kindle many years ago but lost access to my account and now the book is gone and I can't find it any longer on kindle either. It helped me tremendously in discovering and understanding myself. I would greatly appreciate it

Kind regards

I took it off Amazon as someone posted it online for free. I’m sorting out how to publish my second book so this doesn’t occur. This book will have more information regarding programming.

Please ask any questions you would like.

Here is a link to Chainless Slaves. (The updated version)

Thank you for asking.

Take care,

Oz

[rabbid-rabbitt]

no way i just saw someone post ramcoa resources and fucking chainless slaves was on the list...

atp im convinced you want survivors to kill themselves because why are you sharing 1. conspiracy theory and 2. stuff meant for therapists and professionals

[buni-gutz]

alr so that one is behind a paywall didnt check well and the only other links i can find are archive.org, which currently aren't working :/

but for anyone who wants to try and find it themself or buy it off amazon, it is called Chainless Slaves Trauma Programming, by Ozian Uw

the source for ramcoa coming from sra is the fact that all available literature on ramcoa from any kind of actual medical perspective actively comes from sra pushers (svali, springmeier, etc) or people sourcing directly from them (miller, lachter, etc.). there are no sources that aren’t sra pushing or referring directly back to sra pushers. they’re rebranding to save face since sra is widely known to be false now. can you give any sources on ramcoa that DONT come back to those people?

I assume this link is from you?

My problem with this Tumblr post is that it basically just says a bunch of terrible things Springmeier and Wheeler have done, and then draws a pretty tenuous connection to the ISSTD's RAMCOA.

So the chain here is that Svali was influenced by Springmeier and two members of the ISSTD who are part of the RAMCOA special interest group have cited Svali.

Without actual links about what the citations say, this is pretty weak evidence.

And in fact, I have not heard of "Jewel Programming" nor the other types of programming mentioned. I tried looking it up on Google Scholar and found no academic papers about it. Which makes me think that the influence of these authors on psychiatry is being vastly inflated to discredit RAMCOA survivors.

I skimmed through the bullet points because, terrible as they are, I don't think the link provides good evidence for them being the source of RAMCOA nor can I find evidence of them being involved with the ISSTD or its doctors.

I don't think criminals are known for keeping detailed documentation of their crimes. At least not ones who have brains.

These methods can be taught to others verbally without leaving a paper trail that can be used for criminal convictions. There are plenty of instances of cult abuse that are confirmed without anybody writing down the abuse that took place.

The fact that they didn't know much about DID at the time is a fair point. But just because they don't know much about the disorder doesn't mean people can't stumble their way into effective ways to control people without fully understanding what they're doing. Don't forget that we managed to figure out how to immunize ourselves to viruses centuries before germ theory was created and we actually knew what viruses were.

Much of the rest of the post goes on to repeat talking points from the False Memory Syndrome Foundation, a group founded to protect accused child molesters. That memories of abuse are confabulated and implanted by therapists.

There's never been much evidence for false memories being implanted at any sort of large scale, and most of the time, the therapist merely trusts their patients' reported experiences.

[fgffbfghtr]

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Hi! Im on anonymous bc i dont wanna get bombarded by hate, but just know I absolutely LOVE what you're saying about the DID programming conspiracy theory. Once I started to look into it more, read the commonly cited "chainless slaves" (i couldnt finish it, he clearly has no clue how hypnotism works), I'm glad someone's pulling out the information

Genuinely I'm glad I made myself read Springmeier and Wheeler's books on Monarch programming, because when I looked at Chainless Slaves, I was able to immediately recognize where Unwelcome Ozian was copying his material from.

Like, people really should know that this stuff they're hearing literally comes from two people who claimed the New World Order would enthrone the Antichrist in the year 2000 and Al Gore is a literal blood-drinking vampire.

For more information on the origins of the Project Monarch alter programming conspiracy theory, and how we KNOW it's a conspiracy theory, see this post.

[lokikingofasgardslover713]

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A/N: This came to me after reading @wickednerdery writings and for referring me to read @endlessstairway‘s story, Butterfly! I’m not doing a tie in to their writings but wanted to give them credit for the idea that shit all over my laptop! What all has befallen Loki in the 8 years since he has been under his brother Helblendi’s rule? This is the first interaction between Loki and reader.

Jotunheim, by the Norns she despised this place, the cold, even though her late husband was of this realm it didn’t mean she had to like it, just tolerate it and Helblendi’ need to have the trade agreements gone over, yet again but this time in person. It made her think he just hated having very little others to speak to about these matters. The guard, her guard, 6 berserkers, stayed close as they stepped to the palace gates which looked rebuilt thanks to another peace that had come about with Asgard, the cask granted back and from what she gathered given the traitor Loki as a payment of sorts.

Honestly she wouldn’t know if the gates were rebuilt, she was guessing since it seemed there wasn’t as thick a layer of ice on them as they would have been. Y/N  hadn’t visited in a decade or so, having done all from her side as they called it, her place on Midgard, Helblendi was the one to come to her realm under his disguise as Aesir. They had to be careful with travel between realms due to the Avengers and SHIELD, normally they spoke through projections when it wasn’t feasible for the giant to visit.

Finally stepping out of the biting winds and snow into the palace, the 4 frost giant guards bowing to the heavily bundled woman the only wolf pelt in the sea of bear pelts, they knew better than to anger this queen. One of the giants hinting to her to follow him down the corridor the group following along behind the wolf pelt who was keeping stride with the giant. The loud billowing from the throne room catching their attention as the guard opened the door for them to enter, eyes falling on the throne where Helblendi sat like a bastard, with a slave, a Aesir skinned one next to the throne looking calm but she knew he was panicking inside, but staying next to the throne, and an irate man in burgundy garb cursing the giant.

The disagreement becoming heated as she approached, eyes falling on the cause of the squabble, Loki in his Aesir form, wearing nothing but the signature loin covering of a frost giant for clothing while his ankles, wrists and neck where encircled in cold steel minus the chains, the mark of a slave. The god looked beaten down for lack of a better word, truthfully, thoroughly used up, a shell, a husk that flinched every time someone made a fast move as he remained standing next to the throne. His hair that was once long had been cut short but looked to be allowed to grow just enough to fall into his eyes, the worst thing to do to royalty was to take their long hair, the sign of a free man.

“Am I interrupting,” Y/N spoke up making all eyes turn to the woman dressed in heavy furs and escorted by men that could only be described as bears as the one in burgundy looked her over closely the woman noting the hammer, this was Thor.

“No, my queen, just negotiations,” Helblendi spoke up, acting as though Thor was no longer there to turn attention to the woman in the wolf pelt.

Thor preparing to argue and follow after the giant as Helblendi took steps down the frozen dais to reach Y/N who stepped from between the men dressed in bear hides with the heads over their own like a hood while the woman who came forward Thor noticed wore a wolf pelt with the head for a hood, but it was pulled so her face was visible. Hearing a shuffle behind Helblendi making the god realize Loki was shadowing his masters every move and sure to not look at what was once his brother.

“It has been a long time since you have sat foot in this realm,” Helblendi spoke up, ignoring Thor as well as Loki who Y/N shifted to look over as the giant took her ungloved hand without burning it, bowing to place a kiss to the back of it carefully before standing back up, Thor shocked he was showing gentleness towards her.

Loki knew who she was, well as in she negotiated trade for Jotunheim and Midgard, he had been present the many times she and Helblendi had conversed over a projection. His older brothers proficient ability at seidr surprised him that he was able to hold a call so to say between realms like he did.

“Were not done here,” Thor interrupted, Y/N noting Loki flinch in the most minute way that he wasn’t aware of as the mood shifted with in seconds as Helblendi turned on Thor.

Everyone watching the god readying his hammer as Loki took a step back from the chaos and in his escape to not be a part of the squabble almost backed into her guard. Y/N quick to loop a finger in the gods wrist shackle to prevent it and make sure he stayed where he was sure to be noted by Helblendi when it was over so he wouldn’t be punished for hiding.

“We are done here Asgardian! There is no negotiation, no price to be had! Loki is my slave, our payment! I suggest you return to Asgard before your father finds out, Odinson,” the giant bellowed at the god who showed no sign of backing down.

Y/N ignoring the chaos to look over the nervous Loki, obvious that punishment took the form of beatings though it didn’t look like he had taken one in a while, as well as food deprivation but it was apparent he was being fed well now as his body was regaining its toned lightly muscled look when he was shown to her over the projection after he had been on Jotunheim for a day, Helblendi dying to show her the new trophy.

That meant he was broken, it hurt to look him over, his weary emerald orbs watching the clash between both his brothers, paternal and adopted, battling it out with words and snarls. The shackles where just that, chainless shackles that did nothing to keep seidr bound, Loki was once powerful with it but looked like they had broken that part of him as well.

He was clean which was a shock, well-muscled toned body exposed to the coldness of this realm, she knew frost giant or not he was used to the warmth of Asgard knew he hated the coldness of this place more than she. Keeping a finger looped in the shackle Y/N was sure to prevent him from cowering, that wasn’t what he needed to do, it would earn him nothing but a beating and that was one thing she felt she couldn’t witness.

Quickly Y/N released the shackle Loki never noted she held the instant Helblendi turned to look at her, the god of thunder still fuming, staying on the giants heels as he stepped back to Y/N and her guard. The raven-haired god looked to be forcing himself to remain stoic and calm to not invoke the wrath of his frost giant brother.

It was a thing Loki had worked hard to keep held back, the wrath of his brother Helblendi, the past several years, he couldn’t take the beatings, the torture, none of it any longer. Stepping up to the giant he went back to his side to await orders sure not to look at anyone but to stare off in the midground.

“My queen. May I escort you to the dining hall? It has been rebuilt and I believe you will like how it was constructed this time,” the giants tone quiet towards Y/N, obvious to the two gods the giant was very familiar with her, it wasn’t fear but it was reverence he spoke to her in as well as a protectiveness, a cobalt blue lined hand reached to shuffle Loki away from her.

“What about your guest brother,” she spoke making the men take note, they knew there were no sisters or females born to Laufey.

The realization dawning on Loki, having read when he was allowed to this was his deceased middle brothers wife Y/N, queen of a people that lived on Midgard, a large collection of berserkers and ulfhednar. It was marriage that got his brother Blyster disowned but had Helblendi making it known the middle brother was a part of the family after Laufey’ death. Though Blyster was dead it left Y/N as the next to take up the treaties and trade agreements which had been happening all along just with no claim to the middle brother for making it so.

“He was just leaving. Where you not Odinson,” the giant rumbled low in his chest a warning as he turned to look at Thor who uttered out curses to him before being escorted out by the palace guard, the leathery skin giant turning back to Y/N who was looking over Loki, her heart ached, she knew that felling, the lost, the damned before looking back to Helblendi who had caught her.

“Don’t worry my queen, he hasn’t received a beating in some years now, he is a loyal servant of the crown now are you not runt,” Helblendi spoke hotly to the man, the broken slave next to him who answered with a yes master, before the giant took her hand once again hoisting the fur clad woman into the crook of his elbow, sure to keep her pulled close to share a little of his warmth though it was far and few between since their skin locked it deep inside at their core to keep them warm in this environment.

“I see the gift of the cask has made the palace grander than what it once was,” Y/N spoke, thankful it was closed off from the blowing cold, the halls actually lit with what she referred to as cold flame, it was a cold whitish blue light that flickered from the large wall sconces, a light that came from the cask itself.

“That it has,” Helblendi admitted the two talking like old friends as they continued to the dining hall.

Loki sure to keep pace with the giant, but occasionally looking back to her guard studying them over, it had been centuries since he had seen a berserker and he had never seen an ulfhednar, just read about those and it was peeking his curiosity, a thing that hadn’t happened in a long time. The god, the old god, wanting to know more, wishing he could speak with her, maybe, just maybe he could get lucky enough to sit in with them at the negotiations. It would be enough just to study her movements, the way she spoke, the brief grab to his shackle in the throne room made him note she was no weakling of a creature, that would run true if she was in fact ulfhednar.

The god almost forgetting his place as they entered the dining hall which was lit with a massive cold fire in two fireplaces, one on each end of the hall as they entered from the side, Loki so focused on Y/N and his brother he completely missed the servant carrying a tray to the table and slammed into them to stumble and bump into Helblendi.

Emerald orbs looking up to his brother in fear of what the punishment would be since this was the first time he had fucked up in years which meant bottled rage. A low growl from the giant had Loki moving back to stand ready for his punishment as Y/N slid from the giants arm to take the hand and pull Helblendi to get his attention away from Loki.

“It was an accident brother, show me my seat,” Y/N spoke steadily, the giants gaze falling on her with a smirk, he wasn’t stupid, knew what she done but went with it.

Helblendi ignoring Loki to guide the woman to the seat that was to be hers next to his own, noting Loki taking a stand behind the giants seat as he took his seat, her guard sitting on the opposite side of the table, everyone settling for Loki to sit between Helblendi and Y/N like a dog begging for scraps as they were served.

It was what one would possibly call a normal meal, everyone spoke even the berserker guard who were occasionally asked questions of their personal lives and spoken to by name by the giant king. Well, all for the fact the giant fed pieces food to Loki like a begging dog that hung on his brothers every move, an extra cup on the table handed to the once god that sat like a beat dog between them. It made Y/N’ stomach churn to observe it, he may have tried to destroy the realm, tried to take over Midgard, but this was too much for her to witness as a thought sprung to mind.

“Brother, may I,” Y/N hinted to the piece of bread in her hand then to Loki who was watching both interact, it was apparent he was trying to figure out the dynamic between the two royals, the giant nodding an OK for her hand it to him and that Loki would be permitted to take it.

Reaching down slowly Y/N was sure he had to touch over her fingers to take it, a gentle caress that had his eyes growing wide as he was not permitted to touch those above him, not daring to meet her gaze but the touch was all she needed as her senses where engulfed by pain, betrayal and submission to his fate. It tore a hole in her chest that ached even more so since they were still connected when Helblendi jerked him up by the collar, blinding fear consuming her insides before contact finally broke as Loki was hoisted into the air, the giant cursing him for touching her.

“How dare you touch her runt,” Helblendi snarled out, “you will ruin her with your vile mentality!”

“Helblendi! STOP,” Y/N roared to the giant who paused at the viciousness in the queens voice, it was a command when spoken had the entire room stilled, her guard at the ready but no one dared move as she hinted for Loki to be placed back to the floor between them.

Helblendi dropped Loki to the frozen floor between them, the god struggling to breath gripping to the collar and falling to his back to take in lungs full of burning cold air that scorched his lungs, head reeling and spinning. Vision was coming back slowly as was a bruise he could feel painting the skin under the collar as he remained laying in the floor for fear being thrown back to the stone if he got up to soon, his masters rage having not passed enough to allow it.

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[granulesofsand]

Feel free not to answer is this makes you too uncomfortable but do you have anything on number names and their relationship to certain programming (such as number names relating to the role and/or personality of the alter)? I been trying to find resources on this specifically and I can't find any at all so I thought I could ask here. Thank you for all that you do!

There are probably tons of ways to program with numbers.

We have a lot of fragments, and huge portions of them are labeled with alphanumeric codes. For them, it has less to do with roles or cues and more organization. The current theory is that they’re named for their internal locations and initial programming info.

Our fragments are really sorted, most of them are pretty shattered by now and only serve a few related functions. Trauma memory aspects, programming and training, and roles are the categories, and each smallest-level fragment does a fraction of one very specific thing.

There are subgroups that all have low number identifiers. Some are rank based, especially when there’re multiple organizational programs. There are a few who’re numbered by iteration, either of their template or their ‘main’ program.

Cards and polyhedrals come with numbers, and that sorting system can have its own rules. The templates vary in their connectedness, but most of ours are apparently similar. Programs are the same in that they’re usually exact copies from different instances, though sometimes there are updates or large differences.

We also have a board of important alters with numbers, with the smallest as the best. That ties into some externally instigated infighting. The most powerful, respected, dangerous, etc. are titles to win, and the lowest is 0. Negatives mean something entirely separate.

The thing I usually hear about long sequences is that they correspond to internal placement. Grids are pretty common if it’s a shorter sequence, and it might be worthwhile to look at internal structures if you have them.

Chainless Slaves and the Illuminati Mind Control book have combination examples of you’re feeling lucky. I don’t know how mean I’m allowed to be about that coz I do want to see survivors share stories, but I could get some essays out on complaints.

Yeah, I’d look for similarities between the alters who are okay with examination. If they share numbers and an area inside or field of function, that’d be good to know. If you have gatekeepers or internal handlers for numbered alters, even if they aren’t cooperative, there’s good in having past leadership on board with shifting dynamics.

If any of our examples are familiar to you, we can talk more about those. We don’t share details we aren’t safe to, but I feel more secure when it’s direct messaging. We’ll still talk if we can help, just a bit looser lipped in private.

I’ll add this to our notes as something to look for, maybe we can post again if we learn more. As always, good luck, and don’t feel pressured to take concepts that don’t apply to you.

[unwelcome-ozian]

Hello -- in your book, Chainless Slaves, chapter 41 (Internal Structures and Symbols) lists something called an "Ice town" in the I section. However, I couldn't find anything further on it within the book. Could you elaborate on what that is? Thank you!

Ice town is listed under that section as it is in some systems. I didn’t give any details on many of the structures and symbols in that section as it would make the book too long.

Ice town: A town placed in a system where dead alters reside. These alters lack emotion and often have a flat affect. These parts often feel cold due to the belief they aren’t alive.

Oz