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The Dark Magic Symbol and Alchemy
I've been wanting to make this post since before S5 and never got around to it, and I decided hey, might as well try to get it out before S6, at least. SO here it is. I know S6 came out today, but I haven't seen it yet, so shh, this still counts.
So in a Reddit AMA back in 2020, Aaron and Justin answered a question confirming that they drew inspiration for the dark magic symbol from the Rod of Asclepius and the Caduceus.
Just because of Tumblr image limits, I put the screenshot and symbols (linked in the comment) in the same picture, but you can follow the link to the AMA comment and look at the image there if you need a bigger version.
SO I got curious and started looking up some more info...
Here are just the first couple paragraphs of the Wikipedia pages for the Caduceus and Rod of Asclepius.
So at first glance, just like the comment in the original question says, the Caduceus is associated mostly with Hermes, and the Rod of Asclepius is associated with health care and medicine.
But a little further down the Wikipedia page, we get:
Although the Rod of Asclepius, which has only one snake and no wings, is the traditional and more widely used symbol of medicine, the Caduceus is sometimes used by healthcare organizations.
And it turns out that there's an entire Wikipedia page dedicated to the Caduceus as a symbol of medicine. So, already, upon finding this, I found it fascinating that the dark magic symbol is inspired by not just one, but two symbols seen as medical symbols.
Onto the article focusing on the Caduceus as a symbol of medicine, I go on to find this:
I have to come back to the Quicksilver thing, but first off, the being a symbol of alchemy is interesting to me. (Partially because I definitely think of Fullmetal Alchemist and the whole equivalent exchange concept there and the questions about whether people should be messing with life and death and how everything has a price -- all pretty relevant to TDP, but I digress.)
I looked at the article linked in footnote 16, which is titled The earliest medical use of the caduceus, and I found this fascinating image!
Most importantly, this has a single snake with two heads. Which sounds familiar!

I do think it's worth noting that the very first time an example of dark magic is discussed on screen, it's with the discussion of the two-headed snake, being held by Viren's staff. The spell isn't actually done, obviously, but it's the first impression we get of dark magic in the series!
Also I just find it interesting that the article mentions that:
Hermes had some medical roles in that he did assist in conducting the dead to the underworld and also received some credit for relieving plagues and epidemics in Asia Minor.
Another article linked on Wikipedia, called Snake and staff symbolism in healing, brings up the same point, saying:
The caduceus was indeed a magical wand, a gift from Apollo which protected Hermes and enabled him to guide departed souls along unknown pathways to the Underworld, and to awaken the sleeping. The latter aspect was sometimes associated with powers of resurrection — of awakening the dead, and also of curing the severely ill (Schouten 1967:119; Van Rooyen 1982:731-5).
So I just think it's interesting that it all ties into dark magic very well, especially considering that Claudia uses dark magic to resurrect Viren, and dark magic has been shown to be used for healing purposes (such as healing Soren -- both before and during show-canon).
The last mentioned article also goes on to mention the quicksilver thing, so I just wanted to say that I also find that particular point interesting considering that many people theorize that the different types of primal magic may have one underlying magical source that powers all of them, which to me reminds me of quicksilver being considered the basis of all matter.
But wait! There's more!
When I looked at the Wikipedia page for Alchemy, I found this interesting snippet:
An important example of alchemy's roots in Greek philosophy, originated by Empedocles and developed by Aristotle, was that all things in the universe were formed from only four elements: earth, air, water, and fire. According to Aristotle, each element had a sphere to which it belonged and to which it would return if left undisturbed.
This especially reminds me of the primal sources. Also spheres? Really? Funny how the primal stones are shaped that way,
The beginning part of the Wikipedia article also mentions how one of alchemy's aims was to create panaceas to cure diseases, and also that it played a role in the development of chemistry and medicine, which is fascinating!
And then I did decide to look at the Rod of Asclepius page as well, and it talks about how the snake and rod/staff were originally separate symbols.
Both the Oxford Illustrated Companion to Medicine and The New Medicine and the Old Ethics (links are to Google Books) talk about the snake/serpent as symbols of renewal/restoration of health because of how snakes shed their skin. The latter also has this snippet, which I think makes snakes sound like a great dark magic symbol as well:
Back on the Wikipedia page, it also says:
The ambiguity of the serpent as a symbol, and the contradictions it is thought to represent, reflect the ambiguity of the use of drugs,[8] which can help or harm, as reflected in the meaning of the term pharmakon, which meant "drug", "medicine", and "poison" in ancient Greek.[11] However the word may become less ambiguous when "medicine" is understood as something that heals the one taking it because it poisons that which afflicts it, meaning medicine is designed to kill or drive away something and any healing happens as a result of that thing being gone, not as a direct effect of "medicine".
I looked at the source A History of Medicine as well, and this was where it talked about pharmakon:
So it literally talks about magic there, which is really interesting to me.
Anyway!
TL;DR: All that to say that while the dark magic symbol obviously has influence from the caduceus and Rod of Asclepius, I think that the concept of dark magic in general also draws some inspiration from the meaning/history behind both symbols, especially with regards to the connection to alchemy, two-headed snake, and also the connection to healing/medicine.
Which all just contributes to my opinion that I hope the canon universe in the series doesn't eliminate dark magic use in the end but instead puts limitations on dark magic use so it can still be used for the healing purposes as well. And if alchemy ended up contributing to medicine, then... who knows?
... also that's without even getting into how the series refers to Sir Sparklepuff as a homonculus, which:
And the page goes on to mention the "Arcanum of human blood" so... yeah.
Lots to think about!
#the dragon prince#tdp claudia#viren#aaravos#dark magic#tldr is at the end#but basically dark magic is alchemy#I'll cry if S6 invalidates this#(I'm kidding)#(mostly)#yes I think about dark magic all the time#and I've been meaning to make this post for a year#idk if anyone has made a post like this I haven't been paying attention to the TDP fandom#and now is not the time to look#but I'm posting this anyway#my posts
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Idk how to explain it but like, yes i simp more for younger 3k liangliang (because look at him!! he's cute af 🥰😭)
but i'm actually more hopelessly in love with him after liu bei's death. I think it's because of how tragic and devoted he becomes. i'd give my life for this sad little middle-aged man zero questions asked 🥺😪
#shut up zhouzhou nobody cares#BUT I'M POSTING THIS ANYWAY#It's like he just took my entire heart and put it in a blender#zhuge liang#rot3k#romance of the three kingdoms
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good thing from jp twitter this week is queen of old man yaoi michiru sonoo discovering the term old man yaoi





update: somehow it got impossibly more wholesome



quick translation: おかえり: welcome home あ 終わった 終わった: ahhh, it's over! it's done! コーヒー? お茶?: coffee? tea? コ~ヒ~ ありがと: coffee, thank you~ ネクタイレア★★ ネクタイ取るレア★★★★: seeing him with a tie on, rarity level ★★, seeing him take a tie off, rarity level ★★★★ にあうな~: it suits him~





also please do follow: AraigumaSha: sensei's twitter account marureviere: maru, who does such valuable work highlighting bl manga for an international audience
#'this is my old man yaoi masterpiece' <3333#soooooo cute she is SO excited and pleased about it and so giddily interacting with international fans about it#and marvelling to japanese fans like: did you guys know about this??? old man yaoi \o\ \o/#psttt michiru-sensei you want to do a severance doujinshi soooo bad. please.#meanwhile foul thing from jp twitter this week is the man boasting about how he made deepfake p*rn of his girlfriend's best friend#because he couldn't stop thinking about her#and also he thought he was being such a Good Boyfriend he actually told his girlfriend about it#and he was furious she was furious#he was like women........ i'm doing this for the good of our relationship but women never understand our (men's) sacrifices#you know all those doombait articles about how japan is going to go extinct#maybe that should happen.#anyway. let old man yaoi heal you until then.#michiru sonoo#manga#yaoi#twitter#old man yaoi#queer#gay#long post#lgbt#japan#japanese
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Bro thinks she could just thug it out
#this is so stupid#worst thing i've ever drawn i think#disappointed in myself for this lowkey but I'm gonna post it anyways#art#my art#fanart#mouthwashing curly#mouthwashing fanart#anya mouthwashing#mouthwashing game#anya mw#curly mw#captain curly#curly mouthwashing#mouthwashing#wrong organ#mouthwashing meme#queen never cry#artists on tumblr#clearlydusty
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that article going around abt firefox's new ad program is annoying bc it's phrased as though "mozilla has finally TURNED on its people and is SELLING YOU OUT for cold hard cash!!" when. that's not what's happening. it is specifically being implemented to discourage tracking behavior, and literally all the data they are giving to advertisers is aggregate and anonymized, which is like, the opposite of what that post wants you to worry about, lol
#the nemesis speaks#unfortunately i don't have enough energy to like. campaign about this.#it's actually a really interesting tactic to discourage invasive tracking#basically giving individual advertisers a way to measure '% effectiveness of ad' without individual info getting attached to it#whatever anyway i'm going to bed. do NOT discourse on this post or i will get your ass
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#VOTE KOTOKO INNOCENT TRIAL 3#I'M UPDATING MY TAGS#and so milgram was born#milgram#meme#Jackalope#hope no one has done this already#this post broke containment. if you're here for tma this is about a music project called milgram where prisoners in a panopticon sing song#about their crimes . anyway . the warden is a talking jackalope .#which was edited into this post. so uh. he is on your blog now#i thought it was very obvious that this was an edited icon and display name but apparently some people think Twitter op was a milgram fan#I'm sorry to disappoint#this was supposed to be a 3 note post for niche jp music project fans#if you're reading my tags look at my Cosplays
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new guy in the Express
bonus:
adding more to the whimsy
#so i have to be forward with this after all the xiao spree these past 2 years i was close to None feeling interested to doing hsr art#until now LMAO#primary reason being: sunday#like i swear he used to be annoying as a villain but there's something so sad and cute about how he's changed until he boarded the AE#it altered my entire brain chemistry#so anyway i'm actually not supposed to post online until i have work done but#courtesy to anon when i was merely visiting my acc for a bit on that bowtie cat proposal... this is for u to rb <3 await the other post too#sunday hsr#march 7th#trailblazer#dan heng#AE quartet#yes absolutely that needs to be a tag#qiiarts#honkai star rail#hsr
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(bellara/taash) nerd/jocks lovers rise up
#dragon age#bellara lutare#taash#bellataash#that's a nonexistent tag I'm just baptizing it in the hopes it takes off#I watched taash's romance just for fun and they are 1) corny as hell 2) it circles back into being endearing to me. sorry I love them#I do think there's definitely issues with things in their writing here and there don't get me wrong. but I AM obsessed with them#same goes for bellara tbh#anyway that's all I'll say I'm allergic to posting opinions online. do not contact me with unsolicited advice or offers etc#f
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Portraits
Retouched this set from last year, because it was haunting me laying there 80% finished
#yes stelle is also supposed to be here but i just dont have the strength to finish that mess of a sketch she was left as 😔#so not technically a finish set but I'm gonna post it anyway#honkai star rail#hsr#hsr fanart#astral express#dan heng#welt yang#march 7th#himeko#fanart#my art#i miss hsr a bit but i just don't have time and storage capacity to play it anymore
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hobie: kill yourself
pavitr: WHAT THE HELL BRO WHAT DID I DO
original format from @ha-youwish in this post!
#across the spiderverse#spiderman atsv#pavitr prabhakar#hobie brown#gwen stacy#miles morales#astv fanart#spiderman#sorry im overtagging so much i just spent way longer on this than i should've#also the post editor seems to have compressed the image to hell so i rly hope it doesn't post so fuzzy#anyways. pav is so so silly#astv#spiderverse#spiderverse fanart#again i'm sorry for overtagging this movie just has SO MANY TAGS#spiderband#spiderman across the spider verse#edited because it suddenly started getting a ton of notes and i hated that i mischaracterized pavitr in it
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deepthroating a gun without breaking eye contact...... he put his entire gongyussy into that | SQUID GAME 2
+ the video because the sound he makes when he puts the gun in his mouth? [redacted]
update: he improvised that. the man really said i'll go full slut.

#my beautiful unhinged wife..... you know the salesman is an utter freak on the streets and in the sheets#i watched one episode of the new squid game for the plot#the plot: gong yoo showing off his lack of gag reflex <3. he gloc on that glock etc.#the way he drags his bottom lip down with the muzzle of the gun sjhfsgfjhfgkj. redacted redacted redacted.#anyway. new username to celebrate#he put his entire ahjussy into his performance here. his ahjussiussy. his ahjussussy. you get it.#mutuals/followers from my old asian drama blog remember when train to busan came out in 2016 and for one and a half months#and i slipped back into my obsession and i was just a gong yoo shrine? ;_____;#i'm on the brink of regressing.......... help.....#also pardon the quality realised only after exporting that my grain was too strong -.-;#gun tw#blood tw#gong yoo#squid game#squid game spoilers#squidgameedit#netflixedit#tvedit#kdramaedit#uservik#chewieblog#userbbelcher#userisaiah#it's been a while i forgot what other tags there are…#long post#you know what.#gay#i cannot read salesman/gihun fic because i dislike ljj with a burning passion though.....
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indie rpgs if they were WOKE
TRANSGENDERTALE
GAY THE PRINCESS
WOKE SHOT
IN STARS AND TIME
#marin rambles#this post is nothing#i'm going to main tag it anyways. woe my dumb joke upon ye#in stars and time#one shot#undertale#slay the princess#no acronyms i don't feel like it
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there's this horrible school of attempted literary criticism on here that holds that 1. everything in any given author's work is autobiographical, especially if it seems "real" and 2. those themes seeped into the work subconsciously, revealing something about the author that they're either trying to hide or unaware of themself. it drives me up a wall, since it seems to deny the fundamental skills that make people good writers: the empathy to imagine and portray experiences that one hasn't had oneself and the ability to take one's personal emotional experiences or worldview and fold them, consciously, into the unworked clay of a narrative.
#there's a tolkien post that's the bane of my fucking existence -#it's something like 'wwi was normal for me anyway here's a book about how war changes you forever'#and i don't know why you'd think 1. that he didn't know wwi was painful for him#2. that those themes are *unintentional*#anyway it comes up lots of other places -#the 'naive' or 'artless' work is Truer & so This Happened Accidentally#not 'someone thought about this and did it skillfully so it's good'#i'm spiteful today sorry#god i have so many mean thoughts about this tendency vs. the way people talk about ai art
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thinking about a parallel universe where furries with big useless bappy paws exist IRL, but so does that one dumbass apple mouse that has no buttons, a charging port on the bottom, and a shape that is extremely uncomfortable to use if you have normal adult human hands
#taffy art#my sona#soleil#furry art#that's a buny#look at my lop posts boy#tech#i'm just saying like.#wouldn't it all make a lot more sense if it turned out they accidentally brought in that design from the Furgonomics Universe#a world where everything is designed for paws instead of hands#and then just marketed it to humans anyways and hoped it looked new-agey enough that nobody would notice it sucked
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