#BUT THE DYNAMIC COULD BE INTERESTING
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While I like the idea of OP being reincarnation of thirteen… wasn’t there a whole comic discussion between OP & Hotrod/Rodimus where he question what it felt like for Roddy and long story short: it was agonizing for Optimus but for Rodimus it was “amazing, warm, coming home” (not quote) very much chosen one energy and Optimus went “ah, of course. Same.”
What if: Optimus raised to believe he was thirteen reincarnation au
Enter: Hot rod “stealing” his fate/role accidentally from underneath his pedes
I think it's complicated in the comics and I know there's an explanation somewhere but yeah there was a definite difference between the two's dynamics with the Matrix of Leadership in idwg1
(though, their general relationships with religion and leadership were also different, and that definitely affected things for them) (plus the circumstances that lead to them getting their pieces of the matrix / becoming primes)
But!
The idea of Orion/Optimus being raised with the expectation of becoming a Prime / technically being a prime but Hot Rod / Rodimus accidentally getting the matrix and becoming a Prime has to be sooooo crunchy (plus in general I feel like there's a lot of interesting interactions to be had between the two and we don't see it enough in canon)
#at some point i typed up this whole thing of how it reminded me a little bit of the first Kung Foo Panda movie#but i decided it wasn't worth it#Orion and Rodimus's dynamic could be sooooo crunchy and fun in this au#there could be many fun conversations here#I've thought about reversing Roddie and Oppy's places in the prime timeline before#but this wouldn't be that would it#(unless it is)#(then there's a Conversation to be had)#i need to read more of idwg1 and learn more about the two in that continuity#BUT THE DYNAMIC COULD BE INTERESTING#because there's this sense of ''i waited for this my entire life (as i was to do) but it didn't happen_ now what'' with Orion Pax#but also a general sense of ''i never asked for this power and responsibility_ now what?'' that often comes with Rodimus Prime#I NEED THEM TO TALK ABOUT THIS >:)#transformers#maccadam#Orion Pax#hot rod#Optimus prime#rodimus prime#the thirteen primes
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pleas I need more sapphic dipcifica content
I usually ship mabcifica but. paz has 2 hands
girls girls girls
one of my favorite things abt dipcifica is that dipper is confident around pacifica unlike how she acts around other girls… leaves so much opportunity for pacifica to be the one who’s frazzled/easily embarrassed in their relationship :] even though we all know they're both a mess by virtue of how awkward growing up is.
#the same could b said for mabcifica bc of mabel’s natural confidence and magnetism but i still feel like its a different dynamic#which is really interesting to me#gravity falls#transfem dipper#dipper pines#pacifica northwest#dipcifica#dipifica#gabuart#shes got that amity blushhhhh#bc i think its cute#i love u pacifica northwest my daughter#asks#anonymous
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[ID in ALT] I've made posts before about Talia/Dick co-parenting Damian moments (will never happen but let me dream) and this came to me in a vision. Took me ages to finish for some reason 😭 and then even longer to post
#dc comics#dc#damian wayne#dick grayson#talia al ghul#batfamily#dc robin#nightwing#anyway. yes im a self-indulgent ''dick as damians secret third parent'' truther#like i DO think it's way more complex and nuanced than the schmoopy affectionate fan portrayal of it#they're brothers they're father and son they're partners they're the dynamic duo except only in past tense etc etc#but consider! I'm not immune to schmoopy affection in fanworks. it compells me despite itself#anyway it's technically not that crazy when it comes to dick and damian. they hug! often! at least they did#it's not as big a leap to these types of scenarios#also talia ''somewhat absent for complex reasons on both her and damians part but very loving and loved by her son'' al ghul#you will always be famous to me#son of the demon origin...bwahhh#anyway. someone made a comic kind of like this/like a post i made abt this topic#but way funnier bc dick and talia starting trying to beat each other up#so go look at that as well#anyway. it's been a somewhat difficult few weeks so I'm. desperately trying to take it easy#i got some reading with me (first vol of kevin smiths GA run that i found second hand and jaimes BB run vol 2!)#so we'll see how far i get through those. considering there's demons in my head telling me to re-read things (LET ME OUT!!!)#when i finish GA and BB i do plan on rereading robin 2021. as a treat to myself#it's a run I've really warmed up to as time went on#I'm keeping up w/ the current b&r run even though it is. admittedly very slow w/ some weird dialogue#i read it for the damian content more than anything. also nikas back so that's neat :]#idk I have a feeling that after absolute power shakes out we might get some more creative team switch ups#so if anyone at dc is interested in taking over the reigns on b&r...that could be very neat#mine
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I've been getting into X-Men lately! Or, well. One specific X-Man.
#nightcrawler#kurt wagner#xmen#x men comics#x men#kettlebird art#fanart#comic fanart#marvel#marvel comics#marvel fanart#mutant#bamf#listen I like the rest of the team a lot#genuinely its such a fascinating dynamic for a marvel comic team#and the concept is far more interesting to me than anything else they've put out#but c'mon#I'm not immune to fuzzy elf#the moment he showed up there was no way I could stay impartial he was in an instant fave#Also yes this is my own outfit design#I tried not to stray too far from his classic outfit but I think he should be a little more swashbucklery#and a whole lot sluttier. Sir get those arms out where I can see them
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Just For Him
Knowing Danny's family and his time as a hero you would think that Danny would grow up having a similar job, and so did he honestly!
That was until he put on a pair of skates and stepped onto the ice.
Maybe it had something to do with his ice core that made his movements on the ice feel more natural than any other kind of ground under his feet.
Once he was on the ice he felt like a completely different person, confident in every single step, in the way he would spin and jump- using a bit of his ghostliness to gain more air time in his jumps.
The entire sensation on that ice was freeing,
invigorating,
peaceful.
It was just him and the ice under his blades.
It felt like everything in his life was for someone else, his creations his protections all of it that he would gladly give to those who need it and to his loved ones.
But when was the last time he had anything that was just for him.
For him to enjoy
For him to find unrestrained happiness from
Just for him
So no, while it was surprising to everyone around him including himself at the direction his life turned to he couldn't be happier.
He now traveled a lot for his competitions & own fun, with a very happy Ellie tagging along to support him and enjoy what the world had to offer.
" We have arrived at our destination. Welcome to Gotham."
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Just an idea
#Ice skater Danny au#number 1 fan Ellie#inspired by some yoi fan art I saw & went “ yup ice skater Danny would be fun”#also his love interest could be one of the bats and have a very Viktor/Yuuri dynamic.#just think that would be super adorable#plus imagine the drama!#older danny#danny fenton#dp x dc crossover#dc x dp crossover#dcxdp#dpxdc#dp x dc#danny phantom#dc x dp#batman#glowy-death-ideas
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People who say Marius haters are just biased/haven’t read the books/simply don’t “get” his relationship w Armand are always a head scratcher bc then you read the books and you’re like well christ this is actually worse than I was expecting. Going into TVA like here I am ready to absorb the nuances of this dynamic. And then literally every consecutive moment is making it clear how badly Marius sucks
#I mean I’m not like confused about how people could be intrigued by their dynamic or could find Marius interesting#I get it. but also I think it’s pretty obvious how literally any random person could read that and be like#oh this guy sucks actually#or maybe I just have a deeply embedded (correct) reaction to annoying patronizing men#honestly an instinct more ppl could stand to have. the world would be a better place#armand#tva#tvc#marius
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if youre okay with it and open… tfp breakstar doodle plz.. how do you feel about them
ya, they're cool
#breakstar#maccadam#transformers prime#breakdown#starscream#plushi doodle request#my art#my thots here>>> I'm not much of a shipper in general#I'm happy with my 2 ships and that's it#(but I love drawing shipart for my friends!)#as for the show.. they could have had an interesting dynamic. Since Starscream saved Breakdown just to use him a leverage for a potential#future scheme which nothing came out of it#rest in pieces...
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Small but significant character moments that I actually really adore are from both the times we see the boys as tots. There is a reoccurrence that happens in both of them that I find so incredibly interesting.
For the turtle tot short, Splinter leaves the boys with weapons. In the short, Raph is the one who suggests they do “what Lou Jitsu would do” and Leo is the one who takes point when Splinter comes back to reprimand them. Leo, in taking point, is the one to defend them and get Splinter off their tails.
And then, in the flashback regarding the Kuroi Yōroi helmet, Raph is the one who grabs and throws “Skully” as a way to replace their missing ball which breaks it into pieces, but Leo is the one who speaks for the group and rushes into action to fix the teapot.
I love this for multiple reasons, but the biggest are how it shows that Raph has always been inclined toward the bold and fun and making the plans to include his brothers in what he loves and believes they’d love, whereas Leo has always been inclined to be the “Face” of the group and shoulder the attention even if it’s potentially negative all while coming up with on the spot attempts to fix the situation.
#rottmnt#rise of the teenage mutant ninja turtles#rottmnt raph#rottmnt leo#rise Raph#rise leo#I really do love this bit of character writing a ton#again it’s so small but like this is consistent!#little Raph just wanted to have fun with his bros 😭#Leo immediately coming in with the save both times (and more - remember Bug Busters?)#I really love too how none of them pointed fingers like#it was Understood that Leo would speak for them#listen there’s a reason Leo is the Face Man and it’s NOT just because he’s got a pretty face#he can talk both himself and his fam out of situations and I wish we saw it even more because it’s amazing to witness#circling back to Raph his bold nature is something I ADORE about him but I don’t see it brought up a lot which makes me so sad#like this boy is a RAPHAEL he is bold!!#and it’s cute too how the other bros immediately go along with it too#imo the Raph in these tot flashback is the same Raph that glues them all together as a bonding exercise#side note but damn…Leo saves them from punishment in the tot short and immediately gets jumped 😔#but yeah man I think a Lot about the little dynamics between the bros and how those dynamics could have first came into being#Leo being the face of the team and having been it since childhood-#-makes all the moments of immediately choosing to sacrifice himself when HE royally messes up all the more notable#if it’s one bro or the whole group individually he’s more chill about it but often still lets himself be the talker to get them out of it#he will do his damndest to get his brothers and himself out of trouble but once they’re in it he’s in the front with a smile#his own safety be damned#Raph is actually the same in that respect - he’ll jump into danger fists first but all bets are off when a brother is in danger#and like how Leo’s been the face - as the eldest Raph has been the de facto leader of sorts#he’s the one who is shown to make up their games! and I think that’s very cute#anyway their clashing in the movie is so interesting for a lot of reasons but one of them is that it shows how-#-even a longstanding dynamic like Raph and Leo’s that’s WORKED for so long is still susceptible to flaws…and to time
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this was what their dr:s interaction was originally gonna be. trust me. i’m mr. danganronpa
(no cuz seriously. how are you gonna have them interact and then forget that hiroko canonically has a bit of a thing for takaaki?) (i say this like the dr:s writers even knew who the other captives were)
#tbh this is similar to how i feel hiroko’s initial flirting attempts with takaaki would go#her trying to stick to her more subtle way of giving him signals and relying on her ‘woman’s charm’ and him just. not getting it (autism)#it’s not like takaaki WASNT interested in her (he admired her determination to help others. and he thought she was very pretty)#but he just had a hard time expressing those feelings. if he ever did.#but anyways. hiroko initially catches onto his way of thinking and changes her approach to something much more straightforward and earnest#* ‘eventually’ not ‘initially’ wtf-#and he’s just like WOAH- where did this come from?? and she’s just like. bro. i’ve been flirting with you this whole time.#like how did you become a detective?? it was so obvious. i’d be more annoyed if i didn’t like you#and then they lived happily ever after the end#i could go into how she didn’t have to rely on what she thinks guys like about her to get him to like her#and how he had constantly been told by everyone that he’s horrible and unworthy of love only to find out that’s not the case in her eyes#and how that kinda fucks with them both. but uhhhhh-#sorry. i didn’t mean for this to become me just rambling about takoko. they’re a cute mom and dad ship what can i say?#also i love kiyotaka and yasuhiro so the step-brother dynamic is very real and very fun#anyways. right fandom tags#danganronpa#kiyotaka ishimaru#hiroko hagakure#takoko#doodlepuff
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Snippets for my Clone^2 Au that I thought was funny...
in incorrect quotes style format (Clone^2 = Both my Clone Damian Au and Clone Bruce Danny aus combined)
Snippet 1: Danny and Damian meeting for the first time
Danny, avoiding Damian's katana: I don't wanna know who made you I don't wanna know who made you I don't wanna know who made you Danny: pleASE STOP TRYING TO STAB ME
------- Snippet 2: Danny and Damian meeting (Alternative)
Bby Damian: gets dropped off in the ONE city where his dad's clone is Danny, internally: damn I don't wanna know who made you
Danny: alright little buddy, lets -- *blocks Damian's sword* please don't stab me -- let's get you something to -- *blocks Damian's sword* please don't stab me -- something to EAT
------------- Snippet 3: Danny checking out books in the library Librarian: oh, are you trying to learn arabic, Mister Fenton?
Danny: oh- uh, yeah :) my parents recently,,, took in a foster kid from overseas,,,, but we found out he doesn't know english and he's having a hard time adjusting Danny, lying (only partially) through his teeth: so I,,, thought,,, maybe it would help him acclimate to his new environment if I learned some arabic :) Librarian: oh how sweet! let me know if you need any help, i can find you more books Danny: thank you
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Snippet 4: Damian wants to patrol Damian: let me come with you on patrol Danny, 16 year old idiot who fights without powers: uh. no. you are Itty Bitty Child Damian: comes with anyways
----------- Snippet 5: Damian, trying to fight a ghost without a ghost-proof sword: Danny, catching him and holding him against his chest: *radiating exhaustion* no,,,, no,,,,, not yet,,,,
-------- Snippet 6: danny has an epiphany Danny, realizing that he needs to set an example now that Damian is coming with him on patrol: fUCK Danny: I NEED AN ACTUAL SUIT ---------- Snippet 7; dynamic duo Danny: what is it with you and batman and robin???? Damian, silently sweating: ,,,,,,,because they are exemplary partners and i would like to think that us two are the same Danny, doesnt know identities: ...aww??? thats kinda sweet??? okay :)
---------- Snippet 8: hypocrite Damian: dijaal (affectionate) Danny, on day ?? of solving a cold case after a ghost asked him to: hrbhk - Damian, what are you doing up? it's late, you have school in the morning Damian, staring at him deadpan: you have school too. you should go to bed Danny: five min..utes buddy. then i'll go to bed Damian, grabbing the back of his rolling chair and pushing him to bed: no. now. danny, with eyebags the size of the marianna trench: ...fine. now.
--------- Snippet 9: ...the line Danny, doing homework with Sam and Tucker: Danny: *has an epiphany* wait. shit Tucker and Sam: ...? Danny, his head in his hands: am I Damian's dad or his brother?? Danny: wh- what do we define this??? Tucker: ... you're brothers until its funny? and then you're his dad?
----------- Snippet 10: learning Danny: reading a book about learning arabic Damian, slamming his hand down on the book to get his attention: dijaal, *points to book* kitab Danny, frowning: what? Damian, tapping book: kitab Danny: ..ki..kitab? Kitab? Book? Damian: Boog...book. *points to table* tawila --------- Snippet 11: clone reveal Damian, later after he knows enough english and months of chilling out: i am a clone.... meant to kill my original Danny, internally: wow you don't say? Danny, out loud:..huh. okay. thanks for telling me, uh, same here. except that last part
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Dijaal = imposter Damian is affectionately calling Danny an imposter because danny is a clone of bruce :)
#dpxdc#dpdc au#dp x dc#dpxdc crossover#dp x dc crossover#danny fenton is not the ghost king#danny fenton is a clone#dp crossover#danny phantom au#dpxdc incorrect quotes format#i was telling my non-dpdc but dc friend about this au#and she pointed out the food for thought of danny being bruce waynes clone and just MMM yes#they talked about how they could see the two of them trying to find that line in their relationship#from brotherly or parental because technically damian is his biological son#by virtue of their existence and dna#they are ESSENTIALLY father and son#but danny is 16 and damian is 7 and neither of them are interested in behaving with that dynamic#and danny struggling to be an older brother and potentially being parental at times because of knowing who they are made of but the *being*#of their relationship#like yes thats ExACTLY why i originally wanted my og damian post#to include bruce clone danny#because of how FASCINATING that dynamic would be#danny doesnt wanna know who made damian because then he might have to get INVOLVED#and he has his own shit to worry about#clone^2
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What if we were both magic prodigies and it otherized us in different ways and we devoted ourselves to protecting a family member who has general other goals & priorities. What if we both did self-sacrifical devotion in opposite ways.
What if we were dark mirrors of each other and where I've grown overcontrolling you've grown complacent. What if, bought as a servant into a pretty loving home, ownership and control is what love looks like to me, and to you neglected and lonely growing up, love is gratefully taking any scraps of it you’re lent.
By belonging to someone, even if she comes back injured or fails at finding Delgal, she feels like she belongs and is cherished, by owning someone he feels safe in them not leaving him.
She’s what’s tethering him do you see… And he’s the only thing giving her direction and purpose in her state. She needs a compass and he needs a support.
They’re both so out of it 😭 It’s the weirdly intense and unearned mutual trust and reliance on each other?? They’re each other’s weird little comfort codependent teddy bear. Or at least they were headed towards that before SHE DIED THEN HE DIED THEN THEY BOTH FORGOT ABOUT EACH OTHER AND NEVER MET EVER AGAIN. Though she’s also the guard attack hound keeping him safe… And vice versa he heals her and can rewrite her very being with just one wave of his hand. They’re both so so mentally and physically vulnerable both but they cling onto each other. They can’t perceive things accurately but despite it all someway somehow they stumble into something closer to resembling companionship just before they both die. Falin is just that kind and Thistle is just that lonely. Overworked. We both haven’t lived for ourselves in a very long time, haven’t we.
They both have a similar devotion to the people they love but again the difference is that Thistle starts overtsepping while Falin is self-effacing. The other difference between them is that people care about Falin <3 People have given up on Thistle long ago, and he has given people reasons to, while people refuse to give up on Falin. Yaad has a mini arc about it dw about it it’s ok he’s not all alone in the end 😭😭 He reached out for Marcille’s hand but they already all wanted to help him, they just had to be given the chance to, Yaad just had to be given the chance to, it’s okay I’m okay
Hey what if we learned to get in touch with our own identity and the world around us and living in the present again through being in the worst codependent situationship ever.
Falin and Thistle sitting in a tree, sucking on flowers together because they’re h-u-n-g-r-y 💕💕💕
I bet he’s only ever thought of flowers as useless ornaments. Weak weeds. But she shows him they’re tasty and useful and good and pretty in their own right too and deserve existing without proving their worth and waaa <33 Thistles…... Did you know thistles taste sweet if you remove the thorns and eat them?
"Even as a chimera, her kind nature remains" you can’t suppress her in the way that matters. You can’t soothe him in the way that matters. It’s doomed. You’re doomed. It’s all doomed. Save me.
#Spoilers#dungeon meshi manga spoilers#Thistle#falin touden#thistlin#OOOOH UNHEALTHY RELATIONSHIP THAT SOMEHOW WORKS OUT SAVE ME#I need them to be traumabonded kittens to not separate post-canon#I’m seeing a raise in post-canon thistle content/interest which makes me v happy#Fumi rambles#Falin learning to disobey orders with Thistle is one of my fave things. EAT THAT CURRY GIRL!!!! Nvm that it’s gonna get you killed#It’s good for the character arc#Falin and thistle sitting on a web o-b-s-e-s-s-i-n-g <3#This is somewhat of a tldr of my huge thistlin post. Plus some thoughts i had in discord or twitter#Keeping it for another day but tbh if you see their dynamic in canon as her thinking/having picked him as her mate it changes nothing#about her behavior which I find funny. Thistle accidentally claimed himself a parrot mate bc he’s bad with monsters confirmed#Ik my thing of them learning to relax and live in the present moment again is pretty fanon BUT IT’S WHAT KUI POINTED TOWARDS#With her calming him down from a panic attack and eating berries. With the baths for dandruffs. Etc. Thistle hasn’t socialized in a long#time and he wouldn’t if it wasn’t a tool he needed to interact with BUT it’s still socialization and it’s getting him in touch with his#surroundings again even if just a bit slowly but surely!! The Toudens have a superpower in reaching Thistle. Bless#How’s that one post go again. he refuses to develop he's part of the problem he maintains the cycle he's trapped in the cycle.#she's growing she's finding her place she escaped her original role she wants to help people she will never save him she will never save hi#Something something they have to abstract each other bc relationships with humans have always been too charged and unsafe#Only by seeing each other as more concept than person more object than peer can they truly be vulnerable#Like the fuckedupness lf their dynamic and state is WHY they’re so attached. Why their dynamic could be so raw and needy#The stars aligned in the worst way. Mission successfully faile#Tfw we both need to feel needed
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I’m pretty sure Mike and El are the only couple in the show that don’t have shared interests.
Lucas and Max: Arcade games
Dustin and Suzie: Science/Technology
Jonathan and Nancy: Documenting life (Through Photography/Journalism)
Joyce and Hopper: Investigation (Hop was a cop, Joyce is Joyce) +caring for their kids
Mike and El are never given any interest that they both have and do together. Their relationship isn’t even given much volume beyond their trauma bonding. They actually went out of their way to have El dismissing Mike’s interests and only have El gain her own when she’s away from Mike.
With every other couple we have scenes of their shared interests adding to their relationship. Scenes that prove that their dynamic is rooted in a real, not-purely-physical connection.
There is one other couple who didn’t have shared interests… (*cough* Steve and Nancy *cough* who are broken up *cough*).
Mike and Will by default have a lot of shared interests. They’d be the only best friends to lovers in the show (which is actually crazy in a show with so many couples and friendships). DnD, despite being the root of the party itself, is specifically tied to these two in an interesting way. They’ve used dnd a few times as text above a more romantic subtext, which I feel like deserves its own post.
(I feel like it’s worth noting that technically they have Art (writing and painting), but Mike’s interest in writing has never been specifically confirmed in the show, so I’m not counting that.)
I’d be really interested in seeing canon byler having an isolated interest in season 5 that goes beyond subtext. Even if it’s still dnd, just isolated.
#byler#byler endgame#anti mileven#i may be one of the few people who never shipped milkvan#its always felt like it was trying so hard to be romantic that it just felt shallow#just to be clear im not hating on anyone who has ever or still does ship them#to each their own#all the possibilities for the byler shared interests though#theyre so cute stop#they could make comics together#i feel like st is really pushing how important it is to be friends with your partner#(and how harmful forced conformity is)#unfortunately i couldnt include robin and vickie cause theyre not canon yet#i actually cant wait to see their dynamic fleshed out in s5
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losing my mind actually just a little bit
THE WORDING IS SOOO… “instead of revealing that he is also in deeply in love…” WHEN THEY COULD’VE SAID SOMETHING LIKE “instead of charles saying” BUT …. revealing? such! a choice!
“���would not make sense for charles’ character” oh so basically you are telling us that he does in fact feel these strong feelings for his best friend but he is going to push it down, and act like they don’t exist and slap on a fake smile to really bring it home? like what he has been doing for everything else in his (non) life?
okay! okay yea! so cool! totally normal and calm about that!!!!
just wanted to add the second screenshot because i am also very curious on how the heck this confession will leave their friendship as time goes on…. hoping for the angsty route but i will take anything!
#charles rowland#edwin payne#payneland#painland#dead boy detective agency#dead boy detectives#maybe i am crazy and this article actually completely debunked charles ever having romantic feelings for edwin LMAO#but idk#i think the wording is sooo interesting#and the fact they would even want to dive into That part of their dynamic in a possible season two#when they could just leave them as if nothing happened / nothing changed#idk man!!!!#losing it over here
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meet your maker
#splashtail#curlfeather#warrior cats#94#in a better world they could have had a dynamic that was actually interesting#i have a lot of thoughts about them...#splash being a more violent kid curl seeing him and frost being close and trying to keep him away#then there's my genius idea of curl becoming his mentor after softpelt died in tbc#the timeline makes sense if you disregard the asc retcons#they could have been so so cool curlfeather not so much using him as them being like. not partners but some sort of mentor thing#her being his mother his maker his creator in spirit#maybe he's always been this way and she just helped turn him inside out. oops#whatever. i don't know. he was her daughter's best friend
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Been thinking of the toxic Yuri potential of Vaggie and Lute lately. There are so many good flavors tbh.
Toxic exes is the one I see most often and I do love that, but has anyone considered closeted-lesbian Lute with a crush?
To be fair, this would partly rely on heaven being homophobic which is unclear at best in the show (though I am half convinced Adam would be the type of guy who would sexualize lesbians and be offended when they weren't interested in him), but I think it's fun to explore anyway.
Like, the self-justification of Lute's actions, casting her crush from heaven because she doesn't want to deal with her feelings for a woman, especially one which disagrees with the system Lute upholds and gives up so much of herself for.
The realization when she sees Chaggie that she could have had that if she wanted to. If she tried to.
The doubling down on her role and beliefs in heaven partly as a justification for her actions. As a way of coping with the fact that Vaggie, in what was supposed to be her punishment, found more freedom and self-love than Lute has ever had.
Bonus points:
Vaggie having similar feelings for her at the time. Feeling betrayed when she was attacked, but also finding Charlie and slowly healing, physically and mentally.
Vaggie moving on and finding love, both for Charlie and herself, when Lute could not.
I just think there's a lot there that makes it interesting.
#none of this is to say that all their actions should be motivated by their feelings for each other#i think that would flatten the characters and story a lot#but i do think it would add a really interesting layer to the dynamic#and honestly this fandom could use more complicated wlw dynamics#hazbin hotel#vaggie#hazbin vaggie#hazbin hotel lute#lute#hazbin lute#fallenwings#lute x vaggie#vaggie x lute#discussions of homophobia#homophobia#dangervag#do they use that ship name here or is that just a Twitter thing?
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every time I re read GtN I am caught off guard by how serious it is
Like, Gideon spends the first few pages checking everywhere for possibilities for Harrow's skeletons to ambush her. And then she nonchalantly tells Aiglamene that Harrow would do literally anything to hurt her.
You don't really notice it the first time around because of the lighthearted way it's written, but when you know the context for all of it, it becomes uncomfortably clear how intense and dangerous the situation is that Gideon tries so thoroughly to avoid here.
#I would almost go so far as to say there's a dreading hint of 'this could be where she kills me' in between those lines#and it's soo interesting because that's entirely due to Gideon's perspective because she fundamentally doesn't understand Harrow here#tlt#gtn#the locked tomb#gideon nav#harrowhark nonagesimus#I love that dynamic because you never really know which side of the line it falls#because it's obviously something that stems from a childish enmity with childish means#which makes it even if serious at least not life threatening#however one of those children has always been royalty with all the power that entails#and the other has never had anything to lose#and at the point where the story starts those children have grown up somewhat#enough for where a mindlessly hateful traditionally antagonistic relationship could very well shift into something seriously fatal#and I feel like especially Gideon in the beginning tiptoes kind of around that
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